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AskUbuntuCan Ubuntu Touch be Installed on a Walton Primio ZX | http://askubuntu.com/q/48206202:07
SudosandwichHello every one02:15
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AskUbuntuHow can I get the list of contacts in an HTML5 ubuntu touch App | http://askubuntu.com/q/48210605:39
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eynixHi07:58
eynixI just saw the new "install" page and I couldn't find a "what's work" section, like the old install page07:58
eynixIs the "main features" working properly ?07:58
eynixSMS/calls/data ?07:59
eynixOk I found my answer in the IRC channel subject08:00
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Wellarkseb128: I would need somebody to review https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-api-team/ubuntu-system-settings/flightmode/+merge/22290708:32
seb128Wellark, cyphermox could be a good reviewer for that, he has been working on airplane mode on the backend side08:34
seb128he knows that stack08:34
Wellarkseb128: I know that stack too. I just need somebody to look at the system-settings side and get an Approved on the code it self to get a silo08:35
Wellarkthe QML, and CMakeLists.txt etc. etc.08:35
seb128Wellark, right, and I'm suggesting cyphermox does the settings review08:35
seb128he's been working on settings08:36
seb128he would be a good reviewer08:36
Wellarkoh, cyphermox has been working with QML? cool :)08:36
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Loving Day! :-D09:08
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Elleomandel: does udm have support for receiving cookies from the calling app?10:34
mandelElleo, you can add it in the headers, right?10:36
mandelElleo, you can pass any header but the byte-range and that will be fwd to the server10:36
Elleomandel: is that exposed in the QML api, I didn't see anything obvious there?10:37
mandelElleo, ah, good question, let me check, we do support it in the cpp10:37
* mandel looks10:37
Elleomandel: it's in relation to this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/webbrowser-app/+bug/132906010:37
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1329060 in webbrowser-app "context menu not displayed for attachments in gmail" [High,New]10:37
Elleowhich is really two bugs, but the UDM related one is that we end up getting a gmail login page downloaded instead of an image, because we aren't sharing cookies10:38
Elleoso it'll need to be done from QML since it's coming from the webbrowser-app10:38
mandelElleo, ok, so you are indeed correct that the qml does not expose it, in the cpp code the download struct can take a QMap<QString, QString> as the headers but it is only a read property10:41
Elleoah10:41
mandelElleo, do you need a read write property in the struct to expose it in the qml?10:42
mandelElleo, added udm to the bug10:42
ElleoI would guess so; in the C++ it's only possible to set it via the Manager constructor, is that right?10:42
Elleowhich wouldn't really be an option via QML, ideally there it needs to be accessible as a read/write property so it can be treated declaratively10:43
mandelElleo, in the cpp you can pass the download struct to the manager and will create the download for you10:44
Elleoah, right; it wasn't the manager constructor I saw it was the "createDownload" method10:45
Elleowhich also offers headers as a separate parameter10:45
Elleobut ideally we'd want to be able to set headers as a property on a SingleDownload QML element10:45
mandelElleo, ok, so we have to add a read-write property in the download client class, add a dbus method to set the headers and then expose it in the qml as a property10:46
Elleoyeah, that'd be nicest from my perspective10:47
mandelElleo, and header can only be changed when the download has not started, sounds good?10:47
Elleoyep, that makes sense10:47
mandelElleo, I think I can get that to you quite fast (you are lucky and I'm blocked a little by other people in the gps work :) )10:47
Elleomandel: awesome, thanks :)10:48
mandelElleo, I'll start on it right now, it probably means adding new methods and abi breaks, so I'll propose a branch with the current symbols and then that should let other project know that stuff was changed :)10:48
ElleoI'll have to start digging around trying to work out how to get the cookies back out of oxide (and look at the other bits of that bug) so I've got plenty to do before it blocks10:48
Elleomandel: if it causes ABI breaks and the UDM C++ API is considered "public" you're probably going to run into problems landind it, as we now commit to things being built against 14.04 working on future phone releases10:49
Elleowe ran into problems with that with content-hub10:50
mandelElleo, don't worry I'll take care of it :)10:50
mandelElleo, it is not truly public atm10:50
Elleookay, I'm happy to leave those headaches to you :P10:50
Elleomandel: http://techbase.kde.org/Policies/Binary_Compatibility_Issues_With_C++ <-- this might be helpful, it helped us get things a bit clearer as to exactly what we could/couldn't change10:52
mandelElleo, yes, I know that wiki by hard.. and the problem is that the exposed interface is virtual to simplify mocks to other projects and then ABI breaks.. the fun of working with cpp :-/10:52
Elleoah10:53
mandelElleo, nevertheless I know all the reverse dependencies of udm and they are all internal, so I have just to create a silo with a rebuild for all of them10:53
mandelElleo, fun fun, but you will have it for early tomorrow or this afternoon10:53
Elleomandel: that's awesome, thanks :)10:54
Agontukhello guys. I'm very interested in porting ubuntu touch in my device. I need to know how much space is required for the rom cause my device has no external storage and system partition is only 1GB10:54
mandelAgontuk, AFAIK at the moment our system partition is 2 gb but not all of the space is used, ogra_ might be able to give you more decent info10:55
ogra_Agontuk, we only use the /data partition ... you should have 3-4G free there10:58
Agontukmy /data partition is 2GB, will it be ok ?11:00
ogra_thats pretty low ... it might boot but you wont have much fun with it i suppose11:00
Agontuk:(11:01
Agontukanother thing, can we use standard android boot.img or we need ubuntu boot.img ?11:01
ogra_you need to rebuild and patch your kernel and use the ubuntu initrd ... so you need the ubuntu boot..img11:02
AgontukI'm not sure how to pack the ubuntu ramdisk with zImage. Can you give me any device tree link as a reference ? I need to familiarize with the process :)11:05
ogra_you dont, it all happens during the android build ... once you have your AOSP tree modified and have a properly working kernel tree it is all automatic11:06
AgontukOhh, OK. I am worried cause we use a custom bootimg.mk file to pack the boot.img11:08
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AskUbuntuUnable to install Ubuntu Touch on Nexus 4 | http://askubuntu.com/q/48226411:41
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asacrsalveti: are you on yet?12:00
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Wellarkwhere can I find logs for applications launched with ubuntu-app-launch?12:07
popey /home/phablet/.cache/upstart ?12:08
Wellarknothing for system-settings there..12:08
Wellarkis there any way of launching apps from the command line+12:08
Wellarkseb128: ^12:09
Wellarkneed to debug system-settings on the phone..12:10
seb128yes, run "command --desktop_hint=...."12:10
seb128look to the Exec line in the .desktop or run it from the dash and look at the ps output12:10
Wellarkps output only shows "system-settings"12:10
seb128weird12:10
Wellarkand trying to run that I get abort12:10
seb128well, you need a --desktop_hint, otherwise mir doesn't like you12:10
Wellarkjust saying it's not in the ps output :)12:11
seb128it used to be12:11
Wellarkphablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ system-settings --desktop_hint=ubuntu-system-settings12:12
Wellarksystem-settings: unrecognized option '--desktop_hint=ubuntu-system-settings'12:12
WellarkQUbuntu: Could not create application instance12:12
WellarkAborted (core dumped)12:12
WellarkI would only need the logs for now..12:13
Wellarkbut can't find any.12:13
seb128Wellark, that should be a full uri to a desktop file I think12:15
seb128e.g desktop_hint=/usr/share/applications/system-setting.desktop, or whatver is the name12:15
Wellarkok, but makes no difference anyway12:16
Laney/usr/bin/system-settings --desktop_file_hint=/usr/share/applications/ubuntu-system-settings.desktop12:16
Laneyi've got that in my shell history12:16
Laneydesktop_file_hint :)12:16
seb128Laney, thanks12:17
seb128Wellark, ^12:17
Laneyhow is core dumping a proper response to getting that wrong?12:17
WellarkLaney: ok. now it started.12:17
Wellarkthanks! :)12:17
seb128Laney, I think it's what happens to qtubuntu or something when mir denies you access to the server12:18
seb128it should probably error out with a message rather than assert12:18
seb128though the assert has the advantage to trigger bug reports about those cases12:18
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Agontukif ubuntu-root folder is used to make ramdisk, then what's the use of *.rc files ?13:02
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mhall119daker: do you want to demo an app at today's lightning talk?13:35
dakermhall119: i can't, a lot deadlines for me today :(13:36
seb128who is working on ubuntu-keyboard? could we get https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/ubuntu-keyboard/feedback_sound_gsettings/+merge/212684 reviewed? it has been waiting in the since march13:36
mhall119daker: no worries13:37
mhall119ogra_: want to do a lightning talk where you create another webapp?13:37
ogra_today ?13:37
mhall119yeah, 1800 UTC13:37
ogra_not really, sorry ... i have massivve network probs at home today13:38
mhall119ok13:38
mhall119jdstrand: how about you? did you want to demo blabble?13:38
ogra_(in case i can solve that i will piing you ... )13:38
jdstrandsorry, I cannot today13:38
sil2100seb128: oh, this didn't get merged yet? Damn...13:39
sil2100seb128: currently it's bfiller and Elleo13:39
seb128sil2100, no, it didn't :/13:39
seb128Elleo, ^13:39
mhall119dholbach: popey: either of you want to demo an app for the lightning talk?13:39
sil2100Elleo: could you take a look on this merge ^? https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/ubuntu-keyboard/feedback_sound_gsettings/+merge/21268413:39
popeymhall119: heh, you must have me down as some kind of programmer ☻13:39
sil2100(I would probably have to rebase it on trunk ;/)13:39
mhall119kenvandine: I'm not sure if you've already been demoing pathwind, if not would you like to in today's lightning talk?13:39
mhall119popey: stallboard is *always* a hit13:40
popeyhaha13:40
kenvandinemhall119, i have a little of it in my session this morning13:40
Elleosil2100: sure, if you give me a poke when you've merged in the latest changes from trunk I'll happily review it :)13:41
Elleoglancing at the code I don't think there's much it'll conflict with except possibly the schema changes from the haptic feedback settings, which should be minor13:42
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mhall119mdeslaur: I'm rounding up people to show off apps today at 1800 UTC for lightningt talks, can you demo TipCalc?13:45
mdeslaurmhall119: how does that work, I share my screen or something? hold a phone up to the camera?13:46
dholbachmhall119, no, not really :/13:48
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mhall119mdeslaur: either way, I was going to share it on my desktop13:52
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mdeslaurmhall119: ok, if you can show it, I can talk about it13:53
kenvandinemhall119, who's handling getting the hangouts setup?13:53
mhall119kenvandine: for the lightning talk?13:53
kenvandinefor sessions13:53
mhall119kenvandine: the session lead usually, track leads as a backup13:54
kenvandinehumm... i don't know how too :)13:54
mhall119kenvandine: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS/Sessions has everything you need to know13:54
mhall119mdeslaur: I can show it if you need me to, can you not screenshare?13:55
mdeslaurmhall119: I'll try13:55
alanyoshiHello, I'd like to know if ubuntu touch does support .apk or not. Thank you.13:56
mhall119ok, in case you can't where's the source?13:56
mhall119alanyoshi: it does not, no13:56
mhall119alanyoshi: is the app you have in mind something you wrote?13:56
alanyoshimhall119: Nope, it just a game which I downloaded from Play Store.13:59
mhall119ok13:59
mhall119yeah, sorry, android apps won't "just run" on Ubuntu13:59
alanyoshimhall119: Hmm, oh well.. Maybe I'll just install it on my other device. Thanks for the answer :)14:00
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kenvandinemhall119, can you publish the hangout?14:07
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mterryHow do you successfully upgrade lxc-android-config again?14:09
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AlbertAseb128: jgdx: how does the settings app set the brightness currently? We are making a change were USC will be a proxy15:58
AlbertAto set brightness and inactivity timeout values as USC will be handling that instead of powerd15:58
seb128AlbertA, the settings use the powerd dbus interface iirc16:00
seb128what is going to happen to that interface?16:00
AlbertAseb128: it will still be there...but it should only be used by USC16:01
AlbertAseb128: since USC will handle inactivity timeouts, it needs to be able to dim the backlight16:01
Laneyno16:01
AlbertAand set it back to normal16:01
Laneyit uses indicator-power16:01
seb128Laney, didn't we change that? indicator-power dropped its slider16:02
Laneyit kept the action16:02
Laneyactually it looks like we also set the activityTimeout on its gsettings interfae16:04
AlbertAI see: so basically this?:16:04
AlbertAhttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/indicator-power/trunk.14.10/view/head:/src/ib-brightness-powerd-control.c16:04
Laneyhttps://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/powerd/trunk/view/head:/data/com.canonical.powerd.gschema.xml#L416:06
AlbertALaney: yes that will be removed16:06
Laneyokay, well we have code for that but it's hidden so that's not so bad16:06
Laneyit's not really great to break interfaces :(16:07
Laneybut yes indicator-power will want to be changed, that's the abstraction for the brightness level16:07
Laneyand then we want another way to set this timeout16:07
AlbertALaney: I know...but necessary...to avoid replicating the input stack in powerd16:08
AlbertALaney: which is for the better :)16:08
AlbertALaney: cpu usage wise, power wise, etc...16:09
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LaneyAlbertA: we have unity8 proxying the 'auto brightness' setting for us currently16:13
Laneywould it be a good idea for it to also proxy the timeout?16:13
Laneythat's quite easy as it's just a gsettings key16:13
AlbertALaney: yes I think so16:14
Laneyoh, the other thing we talk to powerd directly for is to get the property that tells us if auto brightness is available16:14
AlbertALaney: right, that should still be available but it probably makes sense for it to be proxied through unity8 as well16:17
Laneythe proxied ones are user settings that need to be done this way because powerd isn't stateful16:18
Laneybut that seems like a system setting16:18
Laneyseb128: how do you feel about changing the u-s-s landing to exclude the wizard stuff and include my fixes from today?16:26
Laneyat least the test one16:26
seb128Laney, I already added your fix16:26
seb128I was waiting on mterry to kick a rebuild16:27
seb128mterry, do you think you are going to have the wizard stuff updated today, or should we kick that out the silo for that round?16:27
mterryseb128, kick out that silo -- I'll likely have something today or tomorrow, but no reason to block on me16:28
seb128mterry, ok, ... let me know if you need help, I can try having a look tomorrow16:28
mterryseb128, it's not hard to spin up a new silo once it's done16:28
seb128indeed not, the offer to help still stands16:29
seb128you are crazy busy16:29
mterryseb128, one reason I don't want to block is because I wanted to also make it work in non-split mode again, sigh16:29
seb128oh, right, there is that as well16:30
mterryBut this is my focus now, I think the unsplit branches are on autopilot now16:30
mterryseb128, I will start a new branch based off of wizard.wifi for ease of review16:31
seb128mterry, stacked on it you mean?16:31
mterryYeah16:31
seb128sounds good, thanks16:32
seb128mterry, btw, bonus point if you make the changelog entry a bit more verbose than "Bump version for new package ubuntu-system-settings-wizard"16:32
mterryseb128, heh.  ogra_ will kill me if that's all I left16:33
seb128mterry, glad we didn't land what is in the silo then :p16:33
mterryseb128, I forgot when writing that that any changelog at all stops the automatic changelog generation16:33
ogra_seb128, well, as long as i dont have to review it :P16:33
ogra_expect my wrath if something goes wrong and i have to read bzr branches because teh changelog is to mute though16:34
seb128ogra_, it's mterry, nothing is going to go wrong16:35
mterryseb128, hah16:35
mterryseb128, I am a bit rattled from this split/unsplit nonsense16:35
ogra_seb128, lol16:35
seb128mterry, that's a special one, it can't be put on you alone, don't worry16:36
Laneyseb128: if you're reconfiguring then maybe review the whoopsie dbus activation MP ;-)16:36
Laneypleeeeeeaaassssssseeeeee16:37
seb128Laney, hum, already started the build, sorry16:37
seb128Laney, we can do another landing tomorrow ;-)16:37
Laneybah!16:38
seb128or do you want to stop that one to include the extra change?16:38
Laneynah it's okay16:38
seb128k16:38
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JoshStrobl.17:14
JoshStrobloops17:14
JoshStrobldamn polari, auto changing my channel17:15
mterryogra_, the jenkins job attached to the unsplit MP gave this error: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/generic-deb-autopilot-runner-mako/1241/console17:15
mterryThe unlock script failed17:16
mterryI'm going to do some more testing, but just heads up17:16
ogra_ok17:18
mterrydoanac, poke about unlock scripts and jenkins17:20
mterrydoanac, what is the latest and greatest way to run an autopilot test like jenkins would (i.e. using unlock scripts and whatnot)?17:21
doanacmterry: using the lp:ubuntu-test-cases/touch branch. that run-autopilot-tests.sh script handles that17:22
mterrydoanac, OK, that's familiar now17:22
mterryunlock-device script works directly enough for me...  now to try run-autopilot-tests.sh17:26
mterryogra_, I can't reproduce problem... rerunning jenkins17:35
ogra_++17:36
mhall119mdeslaur: we're in #ubuntu-uds-appdev-117:55
mdeslaurmhall119: got a hangout url?17:55
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mterryfginther, I'm trying to figure out a jenkins failure: http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/unity-phablet-qmluitests-trusty/1861/console18:23
mterryfginther, is this something known?  like are others seeing this?18:24
fginthermterry, this appears to be somewhat new. The last two test runs show it, but I didn't see it before that.18:30
mterryfginther, I think the tests are both against my same branch -- I'm just not sure what I'm seeing there -- a crash in qmlscene?  I don't get the problem locally18:31
fginthermterry, I don't see an obvious reason for this segmenation fault. This specific call to qmlscene is to just a simple test script to make sure it's working18:34
mterryfginther, :(   is it possible my branch did this or is this bit of code before we even get to the branch's code?18:34
fginthermterry, this is before it even gets to your branch. It's on old workaround for a problem in which the first qt app would always hang. perhaps we just remove this workaround and see what happens.18:35
fginthermterry, trying it now18:36
fginthermterry, it's now failing with missing dependencies (like the other builds do)18:55
mterryfginther, missing deps?  Is that a known issue with CI?18:57
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mterryfginther, whoops, lost connection for a bit19:26
fginthermterry, I guess it's not so much missing deps, it might be a unresolvable set of packages. it looks like it hasn't worked for some time19:47
mterryfginther, :(  -- just unity8?19:47
fginthermterry, unity8 is the only project using that test19:48
mterryk19:48
mterryfginther, we have had failing qmluitests for a while, we haven't been paying much attention to those results, except for trying to not make it worse19:49
mterryfginther, ugh.  And the autopilot tests have this failure: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/generic-deb-autopilot-runner-mako/1246/console19:49
fginthermterry, the only thing I can think of is that the chroot in the test environment is somehow broken. I can try to create a fresh one19:49
mterryfginther, this is with the reversion of split-greeter.19:50
mterryfginther, the unlock-device script works for me locally -- what -w command are you guys passing to it in production?19:51
mterrylooks like it might involve initctl?19:54
* rickspencer3 sets alarm on phone19:57
fginthermterry, this one's not using -w, looks like it needs to be updated19:58
mterryfginther, hm I wonder what is printing the initctl error19:59
fginthermterry, I'll get it updated and let you know if it improves things20:03
mterryfginther, thank you20:04
rickspencer3hey! the alarm sort of worked20:08
rickspencer3the screen did not turn on20:09
rickspencer3and the notification did not appear over the infographic20:09
rickspencer3but the music played!20:09
rickspencer3Be interesting to see what happens after we revert the split greeter20:09
* dobey is hoping the screen will work again on his phone20:13
dmkhello20:19
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Guest84549hello20:20
Guest84549hello20:21
ThermalalityHello20:22
Guest84549please it's possible to install ubuntu touch like default os in my phone?20:23
rickspencer3phablet-screenshot is broken?20:23
rickspencer3:,(20:23
popeyeasily ninja-fixed rickspencer320:23
rickspencer3Guest84549, yes20:23
popeyrickspencer3: bug 132713920:24
ubot5bug 1327139 in phablet-tools (Ubuntu) "mirscreencast broke (moved socket) in #71" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132713920:24
rickspencer3Guest84549, get a Nexus 4 and follow these directions20:24
rickspencer3http://developer.ubuntu.com/start/20:24
Guest84549how can I do it?20:24
ThermalalityIs anyone still working on the HTC ONE m7 port?20:25
ThermalalityGuest there are installation instructions on dev site.20:25
rickspencer3popey, I'm not sure what I am supposed to do20:26
rickspencer3I need to fix the script?20:26
ogra_rickspencer3, bug 1327139 ... (there is a branch too, hacking in a fix is trivial)20:26
ubot5bug 1327139 in phablet-tools (Ubuntu) "mirscreencast broke (moved socket) in #71" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132713920:26
rickspencer3ogra_, yeah I think I figured it out20:27
DX3MIs anyone still working on the HTC m7 port? Or a better place to ask my question?20:31
popeyDX3M: xda-developers threads might reveal info..20:32
DX3Mpopey, thank you I was on there earlier and the last post on the m7 port was last year.20:35
popeysorry i cant help further20:35
DX3MThat's okay, I am glad I was looking in the right place.20:37
popey20:38
dobeyso20:40
dobeywho can we bribe to get nexus 5 to be an officially supported device?20:40
popeydobey: pmcgowan ☻20:56
dobeypmcgowan: what can we do to get nexus 5 on the official support list? :)20:57
pmcgowandobey, I think thats rick unfortunately20:58
pmcgowan;)20:58
dobeyrickspencer3: ^^ ? :)20:58
rickspencer3hi pmcgowan and dobey20:58
rickspencer3yeah, so, first, the choice of reference hardware was a team decision20:58
rickspencer3however ...20:58
rickspencer3not going to happen20:58
rickspencer3we have our hands full as it is20:59
dobey:(20:59
pmcgowandobey, is the community port not cutting it I take it?20:59
dobeypmcgowan: the "sorry it's not supported" i get when filing bugs is not cutting it21:00
pmcgowanoh21:00
rickspencer3dobey, well, it's not supported21:00
rickspencer3buy a supported device, I guess21:00
rickspencer3Nexus 4 today, or wait and buy a BQ and/or Meizu in a few months21:00
rickspencer3:)21:00
dobeysorry, i should have been more specific21:01
dobeys/bugs/regressions/21:01
dobeythe meizu mx3 is a clone of the nexus 5 even :-/21:03
kempeSo who should i get in contact with if I'm interested in contribute to core apps?21:23
pmcgowankempe, mhall119 or popey would be a good start21:30
popeyyes!21:31
popeyme ☻21:31
kempepopey: haha ok. so tell me how would i go about finding things to do. launchpad bugs are a bit overwhelmig at first sight. kind of difficult find a place to start from21:44
popeyyes, we had a session about this earlier, we aim to make the onramp easier21:44
popeyin the meantime is there a particular app that takes your interest?21:44
popey(I know nik90 could do with help on the clock reboot) ☻21:44
kempeno not really I would be happy contribute to any app of course i would like to have something kind of easy to start with so i can go though the hole process one time before doing something more advanced21:47
nik90kempe: could you send me an email to nik90@ubuntu.com. I can help you get started with the clock app stuff.21:47
popeyWell, given Clock has nik90 has new designs, and has been contributing for a good while, he may be able to 'mentor' you..21:47
nik90kempe: and obviously I will give you easy stuff21:48
popeyboom, there he is ☻21:48
nik90popey: lol21:48
popeyhe never sleeps.21:48
nik90well I am actually gaming at the moment .. :P21:48
kempehaha yeah i'll send you an email21:48
* popey is cathcing up on fargo21:49
popey*catching21:49
nik90kempe: awesome21:49
ahayzennik90, using Bacon2d right? ;)21:49
nik90popey: everytime I watch fargo, I am reminded of the place victor is from21:49
nik90ahayzen: hehe21:49
popeyhaha21:49
popeyI think the same thing!21:49
=== boiko_ is now known as boiko
kgunnbfiller: hey, do you know if i turn on performanceOverlay, is there a way to dump the raw data to a file ?22:26
kgunnpopey: ^ ?22:26
mhall119kgunn: I don't think so, but you can get raw data from the QtCreator analyzer22:31
mhall119Kaleo showed me how to do that back in the Orlango sprint22:32
mhall119I wasn't quite sure what I was looking at though, so I bugged him in Malta to write some docs for me22:32
kgunnmmm, thanks mhall119, i haven't used qtcreator in a while...ages ago it was kinda rough when connecting to device, that must be better?22:33
popeykgunn: i dont, but its boken here22:34
kgunnpopey: the performanceOverlay ?22:34
popeyyes22:34
mhall119kgunn: QtCreator is much better with connected devices now, yes22:34
popeybug 132853522:35
ubot5bug 1328535 in unity8 (Ubuntu) ".profile not parsed" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132853522:35
kgunni thot i saw a bug y'day also...but i mod'd my /etc/environment file with PERFORMANCE_OVERLAY=1, rebooted22:35
kgunnand it works for me22:35
popeyoh awesome22:35
popeyis /etc/environment writable?22:35
kgunni just flashed devel-porposed...mayeb i was lucky22:35
kgunnpopey: if you make it writable :)22:35
popeybah22:36
kgunnpopey: well...make image writable, then i just used vi to modify the file on the device shell22:36
kgunnstrangely...nano doesn't want to overwrite...but vi didn't mind22:36
popeynano known broken22:36
popeyhas been forever22:36
kgunnah22:36
kgunnpopey: yeah, i usually adb push22:37
popeyphablet-shell is nice22:37
kgunnoh yeah, that's cool....thanks for the tip22:38
popeythanks robru ☻22:38
* popey shutdowns22:40
robrupopey, you're welcome!22:41
kurroswould it be a good idea to buy a Nexus 4 at this point?22:47
robotfuelbarry: ping23:40
robotfuelbarry: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1329553 the update manager is crashing when it can't find an update, can you triage this bug?23:40
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1329553 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/update-manager: Package linux-headers-3.15.0-1 isn't available:_inline_callbacks:commit:_inline_callbacks:_show_transaction" [Undecided,New]23:40

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