[02:07] <AskUbuntu> Can Ubuntu Touch be Installed on a Walton Primio ZX | http://askubuntu.com/q/482062
[02:15] <Sudosandwich> Hello every one
[05:39] <AskUbuntu> How can I get the list of contacts in an HTML5 ubuntu touch App | http://askubuntu.com/q/482106
[07:58] <eynix> Hi
[07:58] <eynix> I just saw the new "install" page and I couldn't find a "what's work" section, like the old install page
[07:58] <eynix> Is the "main features" working properly ?
[07:59] <eynix> SMS/calls/data ?
[08:00] <eynix> Ok I found my answer in the IRC channel subject
[08:32] <Wellark> seb128: I would need somebody to review https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-api-team/ubuntu-system-settings/flightmode/+merge/222907
[08:34] <seb128> Wellark, cyphermox could be a good reviewer for that, he has been working on airplane mode on the backend side
[08:34] <seb128> he knows that stack
[08:35] <Wellark> seb128: I know that stack too. I just need somebody to look at the system-settings side and get an Approved on the code it self to get a silo
[08:35] <Wellark> the QML, and CMakeLists.txt etc. etc.
[08:35] <seb128> Wellark, right, and I'm suggesting cyphermox does the settings review
[08:36] <seb128> he's been working on settings
[08:36] <seb128> he would be a good reviewer
[08:36] <Wellark> oh, cyphermox has been working with QML? cool :)
[09:08] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Loving Day! :-D
[10:34] <Elleo> mandel: does udm have support for receiving cookies from the calling app?
[10:36] <mandel> Elleo, you can add it in the headers, right?
[10:36] <mandel> Elleo, you can pass any header but the byte-range and that will be fwd to the server
[10:37] <Elleo> mandel: is that exposed in the QML api, I didn't see anything obvious there?
[10:37] <mandel> Elleo, ah, good question, let me check, we do support it in the cpp
[10:37]  * mandel looks
[10:37] <Elleo> mandel: it's in relation to this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/webbrowser-app/+bug/1329060
[10:38] <Elleo> which is really two bugs, but the UDM related one is that we end up getting a gmail login page downloaded instead of an image, because we aren't sharing cookies
[10:38] <Elleo> so it'll need to be done from QML since it's coming from the webbrowser-app
[10:41] <mandel> Elleo, ok, so you are indeed correct that the qml does not expose it, in the cpp code the download struct can take a QMap<QString, QString> as the headers but it is only a read property
[10:41] <Elleo> ah
[10:42] <mandel> Elleo, do you need a read write property in the struct to expose it in the qml?
[10:42] <mandel> Elleo, added udm to the bug
[10:42] <Elleo> I would guess so; in the C++ it's only possible to set it via the Manager constructor, is that right?
[10:43] <Elleo> which wouldn't really be an option via QML, ideally there it needs to be accessible as a read/write property so it can be treated declaratively
[10:44] <mandel> Elleo, in the cpp you can pass the download struct to the manager and will create the download for you
[10:45] <Elleo> ah, right; it wasn't the manager constructor I saw it was the "createDownload" method
[10:45] <Elleo> which also offers headers as a separate parameter
[10:45] <Elleo> but ideally we'd want to be able to set headers as a property on a SingleDownload QML element
[10:46] <mandel> Elleo, ok, so we have to add a read-write property in the download client class, add a dbus method to set the headers and then expose it in the qml as a property
[10:47] <Elleo> yeah, that'd be nicest from my perspective
[10:47] <mandel> Elleo, and header can only be changed when the download has not started, sounds good?
[10:47] <Elleo> yep, that makes sense
[10:47] <mandel> Elleo, I think I can get that to you quite fast (you are lucky and I'm blocked a little by other people in the gps work :) )
[10:48] <Elleo> mandel: awesome, thanks :)
[10:48] <mandel> Elleo, I'll start on it right now, it probably means adding new methods and abi breaks, so I'll propose a branch with the current symbols and then that should let other project know that stuff was changed :)
[10:48] <Elleo> I'll have to start digging around trying to work out how to get the cookies back out of oxide (and look at the other bits of that bug) so I've got plenty to do before it blocks
[10:49] <Elleo> mandel: if it causes ABI breaks and the UDM C++ API is considered "public" you're probably going to run into problems landind it, as we now commit to things being built against 14.04 working on future phone releases
[10:50] <Elleo> we ran into problems with that with content-hub
[10:50] <mandel> Elleo, don't worry I'll take care of it :)
[10:50] <mandel> Elleo, it is not truly public atm
[10:50] <Elleo> okay, I'm happy to leave those headaches to you :P
[10:52] <Elleo> mandel: http://techbase.kde.org/Policies/Binary_Compatibility_Issues_With_C++ <-- this might be helpful, it helped us get things a bit clearer as to exactly what we could/couldn't change
[10:52] <mandel> Elleo, yes, I know that wiki by hard.. and the problem is that the exposed interface is virtual to simplify mocks to other projects and then ABI breaks.. the fun of working with cpp :-/
[10:53] <Elleo> ah
[10:53] <mandel> Elleo, nevertheless I know all the reverse dependencies of udm and they are all internal, so I have just to create a silo with a rebuild for all of them
[10:53] <mandel> Elleo, fun fun, but you will have it for early tomorrow or this afternoon
[10:54] <Elleo> mandel: that's awesome, thanks :)
[10:54] <Agontuk> hello guys. I'm very interested in porting ubuntu touch in my device. I need to know how much space is required for the rom cause my device has no external storage and system partition is only 1GB
[10:55] <mandel> Agontuk, AFAIK at the moment our system partition is 2 gb but not all of the space is used, ogra_ might be able to give you more decent info
[10:58] <ogra_> Agontuk, we only use the /data partition ... you should have 3-4G free there
[11:00] <Agontuk> my /data partition is 2GB, will it be ok ?
[11:00] <ogra_> thats pretty low ... it might boot but you wont have much fun with it i suppose
[11:01] <Agontuk> :(
[11:01] <Agontuk> another thing, can we use standard android boot.img or we need ubuntu boot.img ?
[11:02] <ogra_> you need to rebuild and patch your kernel and use the ubuntu initrd ... so you need the ubuntu boot..img
[11:05] <Agontuk> I'm not sure how to pack the ubuntu ramdisk with zImage. Can you give me any device tree link as a reference ? I need to familiarize with the process :)
[11:06] <ogra_> you dont, it all happens during the android build ... once you have your AOSP tree modified and have a properly working kernel tree it is all automatic
[11:08] <Agontuk> Ohh, OK. I am worried cause we use a custom bootimg.mk file to pack the boot.img
[11:41] <AskUbuntu> Unable to install Ubuntu Touch on Nexus 4 | http://askubuntu.com/q/482264
[12:00] <asac> rsalveti: are you on yet?
[12:07] <Wellark> where can I find logs for applications launched with ubuntu-app-launch?
[12:08] <popey>  /home/phablet/.cache/upstart ?
[12:08] <Wellark> nothing for system-settings there..
[12:08] <Wellark> is there any way of launching apps from the command line+
[12:09] <Wellark> seb128: ^
[12:10] <Wellark> need to debug system-settings on the phone..
[12:10] <seb128> yes, run "command --desktop_hint=...."
[12:10] <seb128> look to the Exec line in the .desktop or run it from the dash and look at the ps output
[12:10] <Wellark> ps output only shows "system-settings"
[12:10] <seb128> weird
[12:10] <Wellark> and trying to run that I get abort
[12:10] <seb128> well, you need a --desktop_hint, otherwise mir doesn't like you
[12:11] <Wellark> just saying it's not in the ps output :)
[12:11] <seb128> it used to be
[12:12] <Wellark> phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ system-settings --desktop_hint=ubuntu-system-settings
[12:12] <Wellark> system-settings: unrecognized option '--desktop_hint=ubuntu-system-settings'
[12:12] <Wellark> QUbuntu: Could not create application instance
[12:12] <Wellark> Aborted (core dumped)
[12:13] <Wellark> I would only need the logs for now..
[12:13] <Wellark> but can't find any.
[12:15] <seb128> Wellark, that should be a full uri to a desktop file I think
[12:15] <seb128> e.g desktop_hint=/usr/share/applications/system-setting.desktop, or whatver is the name
[12:16] <Wellark> ok, but makes no difference anyway
[12:16] <Laney> /usr/bin/system-settings --desktop_file_hint=/usr/share/applications/ubuntu-system-settings.desktop
[12:16] <Laney> i've got that in my shell history
[12:16] <Laney> desktop_file_hint :)
[12:17] <seb128> Laney, thanks
[12:17] <seb128> Wellark, ^
[12:17] <Laney> how is core dumping a proper response to getting that wrong?
[12:17] <Wellark> Laney: ok. now it started.
[12:17] <Wellark> thanks! :)
[12:18] <seb128> Laney, I think it's what happens to qtubuntu or something when mir denies you access to the server
[12:18] <seb128> it should probably error out with a message rather than assert
[12:18] <seb128> though the assert has the advantage to trigger bug reports about those cases
[13:02] <Agontuk> if ubuntu-root folder is used to make ramdisk, then what's the use of *.rc files ?
[13:35] <mhall119> daker: do you want to demo an app at today's lightning talk?
[13:36] <daker> mhall119: i can't, a lot deadlines for me today :(
[13:36] <seb128> who is working on ubuntu-keyboard? could we get https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/ubuntu-keyboard/feedback_sound_gsettings/+merge/212684 reviewed? it has been waiting in the since march
[13:37] <mhall119> daker: no worries
[13:37] <mhall119> ogra_: want to do a lightning talk where you create another webapp?
[13:37] <ogra_> today ?
[13:37] <mhall119> yeah, 1800 UTC
[13:38] <ogra_> not really, sorry ... i have massivve network probs at home today
[13:38] <mhall119> ok
[13:38] <mhall119> jdstrand: how about you? did you want to demo blabble?
[13:38] <ogra_> (in case i can solve that i will piing you ... )
[13:38] <jdstrand> sorry, I cannot today
[13:39] <sil2100> seb128: oh, this didn't get merged yet? Damn...
[13:39] <sil2100> seb128: currently it's bfiller and Elleo
[13:39] <seb128> sil2100, no, it didn't :/
[13:39] <seb128> Elleo, ^
[13:39] <mhall119> dholbach: popey: either of you want to demo an app for the lightning talk?
[13:39] <sil2100> Elleo: could you take a look on this merge ^? https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/ubuntu-keyboard/feedback_sound_gsettings/+merge/212684
[13:39] <popey> mhall119: heh, you must have me down as some kind of programmer ☻
[13:39] <sil2100> (I would probably have to rebase it on trunk ;/)
[13:39] <mhall119> kenvandine: I'm not sure if you've already been demoing pathwind, if not would you like to in today's lightning talk?
[13:40] <mhall119> popey: stallboard is *always* a hit
[13:40] <popey> haha
[13:40] <kenvandine> mhall119, i have a little of it in my session this morning
[13:41] <Elleo> sil2100: sure, if you give me a poke when you've merged in the latest changes from trunk I'll happily review it :)
[13:42] <Elleo> glancing at the code I don't think there's much it'll conflict with except possibly the schema changes from the haptic feedback settings, which should be minor
[13:45] <mhall119> mdeslaur: I'm rounding up people to show off apps today at 1800 UTC for lightningt talks, can you demo TipCalc?
[13:46] <mdeslaur> mhall119: how does that work, I share my screen or something? hold a phone up to the camera?
[13:48] <dholbach> mhall119, no, not really :/
[13:52] <mhall119> mdeslaur: either way, I was going to share it on my desktop
[13:53] <mdeslaur> mhall119: ok, if you can show it, I can talk about it
[13:53] <kenvandine> mhall119, who's handling getting the hangouts setup?
[13:53] <mhall119> kenvandine: for the lightning talk?
[13:53] <kenvandine> for sessions
[13:54] <mhall119> kenvandine: the session lead usually, track leads as a backup
[13:54] <kenvandine> humm... i don't know how too :)
[13:54] <mhall119> kenvandine: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS/Sessions has everything you need to know
[13:55] <mhall119> mdeslaur: I can show it if you need me to, can you not screenshare?
[13:55] <mdeslaur> mhall119: I'll try
[13:56] <alanyoshi> Hello, I'd like to know if ubuntu touch does support .apk or not. Thank you.
[13:56] <mhall119> ok, in case you can't where's the source?
[13:56] <mhall119> alanyoshi: it does not, no
[13:56] <mhall119> alanyoshi: is the app you have in mind something you wrote?
[13:59] <alanyoshi> mhall119: Nope, it just a game which I downloaded from Play Store.
[13:59] <mhall119> ok
[13:59] <mhall119> yeah, sorry, android apps won't "just run" on Ubuntu
[14:00] <alanyoshi> mhall119: Hmm, oh well.. Maybe I'll just install it on my other device. Thanks for the answer :)
[14:07] <kenvandine> mhall119, can you publish the hangout?
[14:09] <mterry> How do you successfully upgrade lxc-android-config again?
[15:58] <AlbertA> seb128: jgdx: how does the settings app set the brightness currently? We are making a change were USC will be a proxy
[15:58] <AlbertA> to set brightness and inactivity timeout values as USC will be handling that instead of powerd
[16:00] <seb128> AlbertA, the settings use the powerd dbus interface iirc
[16:00] <seb128> what is going to happen to that interface?
[16:01] <AlbertA> seb128: it will still be there...but it should only be used by USC
[16:01] <AlbertA> seb128: since USC will handle inactivity timeouts, it needs to be able to dim the backlight
[16:01] <Laney> no
[16:01] <AlbertA> and set it back to normal
[16:01] <Laney> it uses indicator-power
[16:02] <seb128> Laney, didn't we change that? indicator-power dropped its slider
[16:02] <Laney> it kept the action
[16:04] <Laney> actually it looks like we also set the activityTimeout on its gsettings interfae
[16:04] <AlbertA> I see: so basically this?:
[16:04] <AlbertA> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/indicator-power/trunk.14.10/view/head:/src/ib-brightness-powerd-control.c
[16:06] <Laney> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/powerd/trunk/view/head:/data/com.canonical.powerd.gschema.xml#L4
[16:06] <AlbertA> Laney: yes that will be removed
[16:06] <Laney> okay, well we have code for that but it's hidden so that's not so bad
[16:07] <Laney> it's not really great to break interfaces :(
[16:07] <Laney> but yes indicator-power will want to be changed, that's the abstraction for the brightness level
[16:07] <Laney> and then we want another way to set this timeout
[16:08] <AlbertA> Laney: I know...but necessary...to avoid replicating the input stack in powerd
[16:08] <AlbertA> Laney: which is for the better :)
[16:09] <AlbertA> Laney: cpu usage wise, power wise, etc...
[16:13] <Laney> AlbertA: we have unity8 proxying the 'auto brightness' setting for us currently
[16:13] <Laney> would it be a good idea for it to also proxy the timeout?
[16:13] <Laney> that's quite easy as it's just a gsettings key
[16:14] <AlbertA> Laney: yes I think so
[16:14] <Laney> oh, the other thing we talk to powerd directly for is to get the property that tells us if auto brightness is available
[16:17] <AlbertA> Laney: right, that should still be available but it probably makes sense for it to be proxied through unity8 as well
[16:18] <Laney> the proxied ones are user settings that need to be done this way because powerd isn't stateful
[16:18] <Laney> but that seems like a system setting
[16:26] <Laney> seb128: how do you feel about changing the u-s-s landing to exclude the wizard stuff and include my fixes from today?
[16:26] <Laney> at least the test one
[16:26] <seb128> Laney, I already added your fix
[16:27] <seb128> I was waiting on mterry to kick a rebuild
[16:27] <seb128> mterry, do you think you are going to have the wizard stuff updated today, or should we kick that out the silo for that round?
[16:28] <mterry> seb128, kick out that silo -- I'll likely have something today or tomorrow, but no reason to block on me
[16:28] <seb128> mterry, ok, ... let me know if you need help, I can try having a look tomorrow
[16:28] <mterry> seb128, it's not hard to spin up a new silo once it's done
[16:29] <seb128> indeed not, the offer to help still stands
[16:29] <seb128> you are crazy busy
[16:29] <mterry> seb128, one reason I don't want to block is because I wanted to also make it work in non-split mode again, sigh
[16:30] <seb128> oh, right, there is that as well
[16:30] <mterry> But this is my focus now, I think the unsplit branches are on autopilot now
[16:31] <mterry> seb128, I will start a new branch based off of wizard.wifi for ease of review
[16:31] <seb128> mterry, stacked on it you mean?
[16:31] <mterry> Yeah
[16:32] <seb128> sounds good, thanks
[16:32] <seb128> mterry, btw, bonus point if you make the changelog entry a bit more verbose than "Bump version for new package ubuntu-system-settings-wizard"
[16:33] <mterry> seb128, heh.  ogra_ will kill me if that's all I left
[16:33] <seb128> mterry, glad we didn't land what is in the silo then :p
[16:33] <mterry> seb128, I forgot when writing that that any changelog at all stops the automatic changelog generation
[16:33] <ogra_> seb128, well, as long as i dont have to review it :P
[16:34] <ogra_> expect my wrath if something goes wrong and i have to read bzr branches because teh changelog is to mute though
[16:35] <seb128> ogra_, it's mterry, nothing is going to go wrong
[16:35] <mterry> seb128, hah
[16:35] <mterry> seb128, I am a bit rattled from this split/unsplit nonsense
[16:35] <ogra_> seb128, lol
[16:36] <seb128> mterry, that's a special one, it can't be put on you alone, don't worry
[16:36] <Laney> seb128: if you're reconfiguring then maybe review the whoopsie dbus activation MP ;-)
[16:37] <Laney> pleeeeeeaaassssssseeeeee
[16:37] <seb128> Laney, hum, already started the build, sorry
[16:37] <seb128> Laney, we can do another landing tomorrow ;-)
[16:38] <Laney> bah!
[16:38] <seb128> or do you want to stop that one to include the extra change?
[16:38] <Laney> nah it's okay
[16:38] <seb128> k
[17:14] <JoshStrobl> .
[17:14] <JoshStrobl> oops
[17:15] <JoshStrobl> damn polari, auto changing my channel
[17:15] <mterry> ogra_, the jenkins job attached to the unsplit MP gave this error: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/generic-deb-autopilot-runner-mako/1241/console
[17:16] <mterry> The unlock script failed
[17:16] <mterry> I'm going to do some more testing, but just heads up
[17:18] <ogra_> ok
[17:20] <mterry> doanac, poke about unlock scripts and jenkins
[17:21] <mterry> doanac, what is the latest and greatest way to run an autopilot test like jenkins would (i.e. using unlock scripts and whatnot)?
[17:22] <doanac> mterry: using the lp:ubuntu-test-cases/touch branch. that run-autopilot-tests.sh script handles that
[17:22] <mterry> doanac, OK, that's familiar now
[17:26] <mterry> unlock-device script works directly enough for me...  now to try run-autopilot-tests.sh
[17:35] <mterry> ogra_, I can't reproduce problem... rerunning jenkins
[17:36] <ogra_> ++
[17:55] <mhall119> mdeslaur: we're in #ubuntu-uds-appdev-1
[17:55] <mdeslaur> mhall119: got a hangout url?
[18:23] <mterry> fginther, I'm trying to figure out a jenkins failure: http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/unity-phablet-qmluitests-trusty/1861/console
[18:24] <mterry> fginther, is this something known?  like are others seeing this?
[18:30] <fginther> mterry, this appears to be somewhat new. The last two test runs show it, but I didn't see it before that.
[18:31] <mterry> fginther, I think the tests are both against my same branch -- I'm just not sure what I'm seeing there -- a crash in qmlscene?  I don't get the problem locally
[18:34] <fginther> mterry, I don't see an obvious reason for this segmenation fault. This specific call to qmlscene is to just a simple test script to make sure it's working
[18:34] <mterry> fginther, :(   is it possible my branch did this or is this bit of code before we even get to the branch's code?
[18:35] <fginther> mterry, this is before it even gets to your branch. It's on old workaround for a problem in which the first qt app would always hang. perhaps we just remove this workaround and see what happens.
[18:36] <fginther> mterry, trying it now
[18:55] <fginther> mterry, it's now failing with missing dependencies (like the other builds do)
[18:57] <mterry> fginther, missing deps?  Is that a known issue with CI?
[19:26] <mterry> fginther, whoops, lost connection for a bit
[19:47] <fginther> mterry, I guess it's not so much missing deps, it might be a unresolvable set of packages. it looks like it hasn't worked for some time
[19:47] <mterry> fginther, :(  -- just unity8?
[19:48] <fginther> mterry, unity8 is the only project using that test
[19:48] <mterry> k
[19:49] <mterry> fginther, we have had failing qmluitests for a while, we haven't been paying much attention to those results, except for trying to not make it worse
[19:49] <mterry> fginther, ugh.  And the autopilot tests have this failure: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/generic-deb-autopilot-runner-mako/1246/console
[19:49] <fginther> mterry, the only thing I can think of is that the chroot in the test environment is somehow broken. I can try to create a fresh one
[19:50] <mterry> fginther, this is with the reversion of split-greeter.
[19:51] <mterry> fginther, the unlock-device script works for me locally -- what -w command are you guys passing to it in production?
[19:54] <mterry> looks like it might involve initctl?
[19:57]  * rickspencer3 sets alarm on phone
[19:58] <fginther> mterry, this one's not using -w, looks like it needs to be updated
[19:59] <mterry> fginther, hm I wonder what is printing the initctl error
[20:03] <fginther> mterry, I'll get it updated and let you know if it improves things
[20:04] <mterry> fginther, thank you
[20:08] <rickspencer3> hey! the alarm sort of worked
[20:09] <rickspencer3> the screen did not turn on
[20:09] <rickspencer3> and the notification did not appear over the infographic
[20:09] <rickspencer3> but the music played!
[20:09] <rickspencer3> Be interesting to see what happens after we revert the split greeter
[20:13]  * dobey is hoping the screen will work again on his phone
[20:19] <dmk> hello
[20:20] <Guest84549> hello
[20:21] <Guest84549> hello
[20:22] <Thermalality> Hello
[20:23] <Guest84549> please it's possible to install ubuntu touch like default os in my phone?
[20:23] <rickspencer3> phablet-screenshot is broken?
[20:23] <rickspencer3> :,(
[20:23] <popey> easily ninja-fixed rickspencer3
[20:23] <rickspencer3> Guest84549, yes
[20:24] <popey> rickspencer3: bug 1327139
[20:24] <rickspencer3> Guest84549, get a Nexus 4 and follow these directions
[20:24] <rickspencer3> http://developer.ubuntu.com/start/
[20:24] <Guest84549> how can I do it?
[20:25] <Thermalality> Is anyone still working on the HTC ONE m7 port?
[20:25] <Thermalality> Guest there are installation instructions on dev site.
[20:26] <rickspencer3> popey, I'm not sure what I am supposed to do
[20:26] <rickspencer3> I need to fix the script?
[20:26] <ogra_> rickspencer3, bug 1327139 ... (there is a branch too, hacking in a fix is trivial)
[20:27] <rickspencer3> ogra_, yeah I think I figured it out
[20:31] <DX3M> Is anyone still working on the HTC m7 port? Or a better place to ask my question?
[20:32] <popey> DX3M: xda-developers threads might reveal info..
[20:35] <DX3M> popey, thank you I was on there earlier and the last post on the m7 port was last year.
[20:35] <popey> sorry i cant help further
[20:37] <DX3M> That's okay, I am glad I was looking in the right place.
[20:38] <popey> ☻
[20:40] <dobey> so
[20:40] <dobey> who can we bribe to get nexus 5 to be an officially supported device?
[20:56] <popey> dobey: pmcgowan ☻
[20:57] <dobey> pmcgowan: what can we do to get nexus 5 on the official support list? :)
[20:58] <pmcgowan> dobey, I think thats rick unfortunately
[20:58] <pmcgowan> ;)
[20:58] <dobey> rickspencer3: ^^ ? :)
[20:58] <rickspencer3> hi pmcgowan and dobey
[20:58] <rickspencer3> yeah, so, first, the choice of reference hardware was a team decision
[20:58] <rickspencer3> however ...
[20:58] <rickspencer3> not going to happen
[20:59] <rickspencer3> we have our hands full as it is
[20:59] <dobey> :(
[20:59] <pmcgowan> dobey, is the community port not cutting it I take it?
[21:00] <dobey> pmcgowan: the "sorry it's not supported" i get when filing bugs is not cutting it
[21:00] <pmcgowan> oh
[21:00] <rickspencer3> dobey, well, it's not supported
[21:00] <rickspencer3> buy a supported device, I guess
[21:00] <rickspencer3> Nexus 4 today, or wait and buy a BQ and/or Meizu in a few months
[21:00] <rickspencer3> :)
[21:01] <dobey> sorry, i should have been more specific
[21:01] <dobey> s/bugs/regressions/
[21:03] <dobey> the meizu mx3 is a clone of the nexus 5 even :-/
[21:23] <kempe> So who should i get in contact with if I'm interested in contribute to core apps?
[21:30] <pmcgowan> kempe, mhall119 or popey would be a good start
[21:31] <popey> yes!
[21:31] <popey> me ☻
[21:44] <kempe> popey: haha ok. so tell me how would i go about finding things to do. launchpad bugs are a bit overwhelmig at first sight. kind of difficult find a place to start from
[21:44] <popey> yes, we had a session about this earlier, we aim to make the onramp easier
[21:44] <popey> in the meantime is there a particular app that takes your interest?
[21:44] <popey> (I know nik90 could do with help on the clock reboot) ☻
[21:47] <kempe> no not really I would be happy contribute to any app of course i would like to have something kind of easy to start with so i can go though the hole process one time before doing something more advanced
[21:47] <nik90> kempe: could you send me an email to nik90@ubuntu.com. I can help you get started with the clock app stuff.
[21:47] <popey> Well, given Clock has nik90 has new designs, and has been contributing for a good while, he may be able to 'mentor' you..
[21:48] <nik90> kempe: and obviously I will give you easy stuff
[21:48] <popey> boom, there he is ☻
[21:48] <nik90> popey: lol
[21:48] <popey> he never sleeps.
[21:48] <nik90> well I am actually gaming at the moment .. :P
[21:48] <kempe> haha yeah i'll send you an email
[21:49]  * popey is cathcing up on fargo
[21:49] <popey> *catching
[21:49] <nik90> kempe: awesome
[21:49] <ahayzen> nik90, using Bacon2d right? ;)
[21:49] <nik90> popey: everytime I watch fargo, I am reminded of the place victor is from
[21:49] <nik90> ahayzen: hehe
[21:49] <popey> haha
[21:49] <popey> I think the same thing!
[22:26] <kgunn> bfiller: hey, do you know if i turn on performanceOverlay, is there a way to dump the raw data to a file ?
[22:26] <kgunn> popey: ^ ?
[22:31] <mhall119> kgunn: I don't think so, but you can get raw data from the QtCreator analyzer
[22:32] <mhall119> Kaleo showed me how to do that back in the Orlango sprint
[22:32] <mhall119> I wasn't quite sure what I was looking at though, so I bugged him in Malta to write some docs for me
[22:33] <kgunn> mmm, thanks mhall119, i haven't used qtcreator in a while...ages ago it was kinda rough when connecting to device, that must be better?
[22:34] <popey> kgunn: i dont, but its boken here
[22:34] <kgunn> popey: the performanceOverlay ?
[22:34] <popey> yes
[22:34] <mhall119> kgunn: QtCreator is much better with connected devices now, yes
[22:35] <popey> bug 1328535
[22:35] <kgunn> i thot i saw a bug y'day also...but i mod'd my /etc/environment file with PERFORMANCE_OVERLAY=1, rebooted
[22:35] <kgunn> and it works for me
[22:35] <popey> oh awesome
[22:35] <popey> is /etc/environment writable?
[22:35] <kgunn> i just flashed devel-porposed...mayeb i was lucky
[22:35] <kgunn> popey: if you make it writable :)
[22:36] <popey> bah
[22:36] <kgunn> popey: well...make image writable, then i just used vi to modify the file on the device shell
[22:36] <kgunn> strangely...nano doesn't want to overwrite...but vi didn't mind
[22:36] <popey> nano known broken
[22:36] <popey> has been forever
[22:36] <kgunn> ah
[22:37] <kgunn> popey: yeah, i usually adb push
[22:37] <popey> phablet-shell is nice
[22:38] <kgunn> oh yeah, that's cool....thanks for the tip
[22:38] <popey> thanks robru ☻
[22:40]  * popey shutdowns
[22:41] <robru> popey, you're welcome!
[22:47] <kurros> would it be a good idea to buy a Nexus 4 at this point?
[23:40] <robotfuel> barry: ping
[23:40] <robotfuel> barry: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1329553 the update manager is crashing when it can't find an update, can you triage this bug?