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| === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-users-1 to: Track: Users | Principles of test authoring | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/meeting/22268/principles-of-test-authoring/ | ||
| roadmr | "this live event is over"? | 14:01 |
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| balloons | we should be live in a moment.. you should see it :-) | 14:01 |
| roadmr | got it now | 14:02 |
| brendand | little hiccup | 14:03 |
| balloons | https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYdBG2K910QGIQ8H8a3JPnq0-_RZ-iT2kGT3Nu_yBop5gnT73w?authuser=1&hl=en | 14:04 |
| balloons | you'll need to refresh the page to get the new video | 14:05 |
| * cking not having fun with the google hangout | 14:06 | |
| balloons | we are live.. but had to change the video.. make sure you reload the page | 14:06 |
| * lool is watching | 14:06 | |
| balloons | feel free to ask questions to get brendan to go deeper | 14:07 |
| balloons | feel free to ask questions at any time in here | 14:08 |
| * elopio tries to watch too, but the connection sucks here today. | 14:10 | |
| lool | balloons, brendand: is there a link to the slide that you could share here? | 14:10 |
| lool | *slides | 14:10 |
| balloons | lool, I'll get brendan to share after the presentation | 14:11 |
| cking | that was useful, can we get the slides from somewhere? | 14:43 |
| dobey | balloons: can you add the link to the google doc for the slides, to the video description on youtube? | 14:44 |
| balloons | dobey, cking yep.. we'll share the link in the pad, on IRC, and I'll post to the video | 14:44 |
| cking | thanks! | 14:45 |
| jgdx | brendand, can you briefly discuss high level tests asserting low level conditions? E.g. asserting that a click on a button manipulates a dbus prop value. | 14:48 |
| * t1mp a bit late (I was following another session) | 14:48 | |
| t1mp | maybe you discussed it already, but this is always good to repeat: | 14:49 |
| t1mp | 16:36:57 < t1mp> for all app developers: use the UITK custom proxy objects for autopilot tests, don't do for example select_single('Header') because that breaks when we change internals | 14:49 |
| t1mp | 16:37:32 < t1mp> (custom proxy objects were formerly known as autopilot emulators) | 14:49 |
| cgregan_uds | perhaps his point was that happy path can easily be automated but "negative" testing requires testers thinking like the user | 14:51 |
| jgdx | brendand, I'll take "fine" :) | 14:53 |
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| jgdx | brendand, thank you! | 14:56 |
| balloons | thanks everyone! | 14:56 |
| roadmr | thanks :) | 14:58 |
| evilburp | Hello? | 15:36 |
| abramelin | I want to put ubuntu on my old xp machine HP Compaq nx6310 but it won't connect to BB Is it possible to do this or do I have to forget it? | 16:41 |
| cheesehead | abramelin: #ubuntu is a more appropriate channel for your support question | 16:45 |
| abramelin | no idea what's going on, no one in chat room and a bunch of people talking in Klingon | 16:45 |
| abramelin | bye | 16:45 |
| t1mp | mhall119: hi | 17:10 |
| t1mp | mhall119: would it be possible to add "UTC" to the times on the individual session pages such as this one? http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/meeting/22248/marketing-ubuntu-in-south-africa/ | 17:11 |
| belkinsa | Agreed. It's missing for sure | 17:11 |
| mhall119 | t1mp: probably | 17:17 |
| mhall119 | t1mp: file a bug, but there's no active developer on summit anymore | 17:17 |
| mhall119 | t1mp: it's an easy enough fix though....if you want to try it :) | 17:18 |
| t1mp | mhall119: what's the project? | 17:18 |
| t1mp | ah "summit" | 17:18 |
| mhall119 | yup | 17:19 |
| t1mp | https://bugs.launchpad.net/summit/+bug/1329396 | 17:20 |
| udsbotu | Launchpad bug 1329396 in Summit "individual session pages don't show time zone" [Undecided,New] | 17:20 |
| === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-users-1 to: Track: Users | Marketing Ubuntu in South Africa | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/meeting/22248/marketing-ubuntu-in-south-africa/ | ||
| balloons | session should begin shortly, just setting up the youtube link | 18:03 |
| t1mp | the embedded video disappeared from the page | 18:04 |
| t1mp | balloons: ^ | 18:05 |
| balloons | t1mp, yep, working with Kapanda to put it in place properly :-) | 18:05 |
| balloons | t1mp, et la.. video should be there now ;-) | 18:05 |
| t1mp | balloons: yes it came back, but still "Starting soon..." | 18:06 |
| balloons | mm, yes it's really laggy sadly Kapanda | 18:11 |
| balloons | can you share a link to the presentation and just talk through it with audio? | 18:12 |
| balloons | Kapanda, ^^ | 18:12 |
| t1mp | I only see black video, so better to turn it off | 18:12 |
| t1mp | ah now I see the screenshare | 18:13 |
| balloons | I'll try leaving the call, maybe it will be better | 18:14 |
| balloons | Kapanda, I don't think it's working sadly.. it's just broken audio :-( | 18:16 |
| balloons | Kapanda, we'll have to try and do this a different way; or perhaps another time | 18:16 |
| balloons | I'm sorry it's not working.. connectivity can be hard | 18:17 |
| t1mp | Kapanda: I can hear you but the audio is breaking up a lot | 18:18 |
| balloons | yea, the internet is not always well connected.. I know the feeling | 18:19 |
| balloons | I'm not sure if it can be done via IRC or not | 18:19 |
| balloons | If not, I would suggest recording a video and sharing it after uploading.. That might take a long time to upload, but it wouldn't have any lag issues | 18:20 |
| Kapanda | ok let try again just now | 18:20 |
| t1mp | is there no way to make a regular phone call to dial in to a live hangout? | 18:20 |
| t1mp | if you fulfill some requirements, it is possible to make a voice call to a phone number from hangouts https://support.google.com/hangouts/answer/3187125?hl=en | 18:22 |
| balloons | yes, that is possible.. But we're crossing several borders here.. I don't think it's doable | 18:22 |
| t1mp | probably not in time | 18:22 |
| balloons | I could also include him in a mumble conversation perhaps.. never tried that | 18:23 |
| t1mp | well mumble also uses his internet connection, if the upstream is the problem, mumble won't solve it | 18:23 |
| Kapanda | I have to switch pcs | 18:23 |
| balloons | t1mp, yes very true.. it might be a bit better than audio only.. but might not | 18:23 |
| balloons | Kapanda, be sure to update the links if you'd like to try again | 18:24 |
| balloons | atm we still have the original link, so no new video | 18:25 |
| evilburp | hello? | 18:35 |
| balloons | hi | 18:35 |
| balloons | the scheduled session didn't work out.. network issues for the presenter | 18:36 |
| evilburp | oh noes :( | 18:36 |
| evilburp | who is the presenter? | 18:36 |
| evilburp | On http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/meeting/22248/marketing-ubuntu-in-south-africa/ I'm only seeing Kapanda Phiri listed as attendee | 18:36 |
| evilburp | but no information about presenter | 18:37 |
| balloons | evilburp, yes Kapnda was the presenter | 18:37 |
| evilburp | I recently wrote this post if anyone is interested: http://cpbotha.net/2014/05/31/south-africa-why-are-you-not-running-linux/ | 18:37 |
| evilburp | It's something I'm really interested in | 18:38 |
| t1mp | evilburp: thanks for joining ;) pity the presentation didn't work out. | 18:38 |
| evilburp | hey t1mp thanks for the heads-up on the blog!! | 18:39 |
| t1mp | evilburp: np. I read your blog once in a while, and when I saw this UDS session I remembered your blog post | 18:39 |
| balloons | evilburp, meet Kapanda | 18:40 |
| evilburp | Kapanda: Pleased to meet you! | 18:40 |
| balloons | so we can still chat in IRC.. go for it | 18:40 |
| t1mp | Kapanda: did you prepare slides for the presentation? you could share the link to that | 18:41 |
| evilburp | Kapanda: I summarised my thoughts about the SA-vs-Linux situation in this post if you're interested http://cpbotha.net/2014/05/31/south-africa-why-are-you-not-running-linux/ | 18:41 |
| Kapanda | Thanks evilburp will have a look and chat further | 18:43 |
| balloons | looks like Kapanda is going to be able to share his presentation | 18:45 |
| belkinsa | #ubuntu-scientists | 18:46 |
| evilburp | are we allowed to chat normally on this channel? | 18:46 |
| Kapanda | https://pdfshare.it/permissions/5HWCF4PQY | 18:47 |
| t1mp | evilburp: yes | 18:47 |
| t1mp | evilburp: but outside of the UDS sessions these #ubuntu-uds channels are usually not active | 18:48 |
| balloons | awesome, so I would suggest chatting and seeing if there is some actions to take.. or perhaps you guys can talk offline. | 18:49 |
| balloons | if you do chat, we can copy it into the pad for others to see later | 18:50 |
| balloons | I placed the links into the pad at least | 18:51 |
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| evilburp | boioing! | 19:16 |
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