=== ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-users-1 to: Currently no events are active in this room - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/users-1/ - http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/06/12/%23ubuntu-uds-users-1.html === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-users-1 to: Track: Users | Principles of test authoring | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/meeting/22268/principles-of-test-authoring/ [14:01] "this live event is over"? [14:01] we should be live in a moment.. you should see it :-) [14:02] got it now [14:03] little hiccup [14:04] https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYdBG2K910QGIQ8H8a3JPnq0-_RZ-iT2kGT3Nu_yBop5gnT73w?authuser=1&hl=en [14:05] you'll need to refresh the page to get the new video [14:06] * cking not having fun with the google hangout [14:06] we are live.. but had to change the video.. make sure you reload the page [14:06] * lool is watching [14:07] feel free to ask questions to get brendan to go deeper [14:08] feel free to ask questions at any time in here [14:10] * elopio tries to watch too, but the connection sucks here today. [14:10] balloons, brendand: is there a link to the slide that you could share here? [14:10] *slides [14:11] lool, I'll get brendan to share after the presentation [14:43] that was useful, can we get the slides from somewhere? [14:44] balloons: can you add the link to the google doc for the slides, to the video description on youtube? [14:44] dobey, cking yep.. we'll share the link in the pad, on IRC, and I'll post to the video [14:45] thanks! [14:48] brendand, can you briefly discuss high level tests asserting low level conditions? E.g. asserting that a click on a button manipulates a dbus prop value. [14:48] * t1mp a bit late (I was following another session) [14:49] maybe you discussed it already, but this is always good to repeat: [14:49] 16:36:57 < t1mp> for all app developers: use the UITK custom proxy objects for autopilot tests, don't do for example select_single('Header') because that breaks when we change internals [14:49] 16:37:32 < t1mp> (custom proxy objects were formerly known as autopilot emulators) [14:51] perhaps his point was that happy path can easily be automated but "negative" testing requires testers thinking like the user [14:53] brendand, I'll take "fine" :) === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-users-1 to: Currently no events are active in this room - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/users-1/ - http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/06/12/%23ubuntu-uds-users-1.html [14:56] brendand, thank you! [14:56] thanks everyone! [14:58] thanks :) [15:36] Hello? [16:41] I want to put ubuntu on my old xp machine HP Compaq nx6310 but it won't connect to BB Is it possible to do this or do I have to forget it? [16:45] abramelin: #ubuntu is a more appropriate channel for your support question [16:45] no idea what's going on, no one in chat room and a bunch of people talking in Klingon [16:45] bye [17:10] mhall119: hi [17:11] mhall119: would it be possible to add "UTC" to the times on the individual session pages such as this one? http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/meeting/22248/marketing-ubuntu-in-south-africa/ [17:11] Agreed. It's missing for sure [17:17] t1mp: probably [17:17] t1mp: file a bug, but there's no active developer on summit anymore [17:18] t1mp: it's an easy enough fix though....if you want to try it :) [17:18] mhall119: what's the project? [17:18] ah "summit" [17:19] yup [17:20] https://bugs.launchpad.net/summit/+bug/1329396 [17:20] Launchpad bug 1329396 in Summit "individual session pages don't show time zone" [Undecided,New] === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-users-1 to: Track: Users | Marketing Ubuntu in South Africa | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/meeting/22248/marketing-ubuntu-in-south-africa/ [18:03] session should begin shortly, just setting up the youtube link [18:04] the embedded video disappeared from the page [18:05] balloons: ^ [18:05] t1mp, yep, working with Kapanda to put it in place properly :-) [18:05] t1mp, et la.. video should be there now ;-) [18:06] balloons: yes it came back, but still "Starting soon..." [18:11] mm, yes it's really laggy sadly Kapanda [18:12] can you share a link to the presentation and just talk through it with audio? [18:12] Kapanda, ^^ [18:12] I only see black video, so better to turn it off [18:13] ah now I see the screenshare [18:14] I'll try leaving the call, maybe it will be better [18:16] Kapanda, I don't think it's working sadly.. it's just broken audio :-( [18:16] Kapanda, we'll have to try and do this a different way; or perhaps another time [18:17] I'm sorry it's not working.. connectivity can be hard [18:18] Kapanda: I can hear you but the audio is breaking up a lot [18:19] yea, the internet is not always well connected.. I know the feeling [18:19] I'm not sure if it can be done via IRC or not [18:20] If not, I would suggest recording a video and sharing it after uploading.. That might take a long time to upload, but it wouldn't have any lag issues [18:20] ok let try again just now [18:20] is there no way to make a regular phone call to dial in to a live hangout? [18:22] if you fulfill some requirements, it is possible to make a voice call to a phone number from hangouts https://support.google.com/hangouts/answer/3187125?hl=en [18:22] yes, that is possible.. But we're crossing several borders here.. I don't think it's doable [18:22] probably not in time [18:23] I could also include him in a mumble conversation perhaps.. never tried that [18:23] well mumble also uses his internet connection, if the upstream is the problem, mumble won't solve it [18:23] I have to switch pcs [18:23] t1mp, yes very true.. it might be a bit better than audio only.. but might not [18:24] Kapanda, be sure to update the links if you'd like to try again [18:25] atm we still have the original link, so no new video [18:35] hello? [18:35] hi [18:36] the scheduled session didn't work out.. network issues for the presenter [18:36] oh noes :( [18:36] who is the presenter? [18:36] On http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/meeting/22248/marketing-ubuntu-in-south-africa/ I'm only seeing Kapanda Phiri listed as attendee [18:37] but no information about presenter [18:37] evilburp, yes Kapnda was the presenter [18:37] I recently wrote this post if anyone is interested: http://cpbotha.net/2014/05/31/south-africa-why-are-you-not-running-linux/ [18:38] It's something I'm really interested in [18:38] evilburp: thanks for joining ;) pity the presentation didn't work out. [18:39] hey t1mp thanks for the heads-up on the blog!! [18:39] evilburp: np. I read your blog once in a while, and when I saw this UDS session I remembered your blog post [18:40] evilburp, meet Kapanda [18:40] Kapanda: Pleased to meet you! [18:40] so we can still chat in IRC.. go for it [18:41] Kapanda: did you prepare slides for the presentation? you could share the link to that [18:41] Kapanda: I summarised my thoughts about the SA-vs-Linux situation in this post if you're interested http://cpbotha.net/2014/05/31/south-africa-why-are-you-not-running-linux/ [18:43] Thanks evilburp will have a look and chat further [18:45] looks like Kapanda is going to be able to share his presentation [18:46] #ubuntu-scientists [18:46] are we allowed to chat normally on this channel? [18:47] https://pdfshare.it/permissions/5HWCF4PQY [18:47] evilburp: yes [18:48] evilburp: but outside of the UDS sessions these #ubuntu-uds channels are usually not active [18:49] awesome, so I would suggest chatting and seeing if there is some actions to take.. or perhaps you guys can talk offline. [18:50] if you do chat, we can copy it into the pad for others to see later [18:51] I placed the links into the pad at least === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-users-1 to: Currently no events are active in this room - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/users-1/ - http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/06/12/%23ubuntu-uds-users-1.html [19:16] boioing!