[00:03] <Jonathan_R> i keep seeing a package that has some deps that dont make sense to me. why does lsb-foo depend on rpm?
[00:07] <wuschLOR> Beldar :) that was easy
[00:08] <Beldar> wuschLOR, Yep, got it on my multiboot usb with all kinda toys.
[00:14] <anonymous> ugh
[00:19] <Bashing-om> wuschLOR: All"s well that ends well ?
[00:24] <TeraJL> to install KDE i can just run sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and it will install and then on the login i can switch DE, and if i want to remove i can do apt-get purge kubuntu-desktop without much of an hassle? (ubuntu 14.04)
[00:25] <daftykins> TeraJL: no, the purge will remove all packages shared by kubuntu and ubuntu -desktop
[00:25] <holstein> TeraJL: i suggest, if you dont want "hassle", just install kde.. get whatever you want from kde, not necessarily the kubuntu-desktop meta package.. you'll be able to select it at boot, and purge it rather easily
[00:25] <holstein> TeraJL: you can always try the kubuntu live CD's..
[00:26] <TeraJL> true holstein , nice idea ;)
[00:26] <daftykins> we'll know you've converted once the letter 'k' goes in front of your every word
[00:26] <The0x539> xfce4-represent!
[00:27] <bindigoat> http://www.indymedia.org.au/2012/12/22/evolutionary-swarm-robotics-basics
[00:27] <bindigoat> http://indymedia.org.au/2014/06/03/a-new-direction-for-renewable-energy
[00:28] <bindigoat> https://soundcloud.com/mantra-1-1/australien-universal-space
[00:28] <daftykins> bindigoat: those are inappropriate links here, please do not paste anything else.
[00:35] <zerothis> can i get a mesa 10.2 deb from a ppa?
[00:35] <holstein> zerothis: nothing ubuntu ubuntu will prevent that.. but we have no way of tracking what folks do in PPA's
[00:36] <holstein> looks like 10.3 here.. https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[00:37] <folkie> i am having a problem with ubuntu gnome 14.04. when i plug in my earbuds, the sound on the speekers does not mute.
[00:38] <holstein> folkie: can you mute it? if so, you may just want to consider that a good 'work-around'... otherwise, alsa and kernel versions can help provide "better" support
[00:38] <holstein> !audio
[00:39] <folkie> that doesn't really help me much, holstein. i can check my input and output settings, they display fine, the output is going to the earbuds. thing is the speeker is not automatically muting.
[00:39] <The0x539> KDE, I think I'm going to like you.
[00:40] <zerothis> yes, 10.3 (compiled 7 hours ago if I read the timestamp correctly). I was hoping for something a little less experimental and hope someone knew where I could get it. 10.2 and 10.2.x are listed as releases and bug fixes while 10.3 is not 'released' yet
[00:40] <cai> KDE > Unity > XFCE > GNOME   I kinda want a simpler KDE though... LXQt maybe
[00:41] <Bucky21659> Does anyone know where the WINEPREFIX env var is stored?
[00:41] <holstein> zerothis: why? have you had any issues with the latest?
[00:41] <cai> Bucky21659: if you don't tell wine, it's just /home/you/.wine
[00:42] <The0x539> cai: Xfce does NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT have the same goal as KDE does NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT have the same goal as Unity.
[00:42] <holstein> kde is quite configurable, into something arguably "simple" if one wants.. try the #kubuntu channel or a KDE channel, cai
[00:42] <cai> The0x539: uhh, ok
[00:42] <holstein> !ot | The0x539
[00:44] <zerothis> holstein: yes, attempting to compile a debug version of irrlitch and I encountered a known issue that 'affects some people using mesa 10'. The workaround given didn't fix it for me. I don't want to go back to mesa 9 either
[00:44] <holstein> zerothis: you should find the older version easily in a package manager such as synaptic.. though, you may find compatibility issues..
[00:44] <Bucky21659> cai, I set WINEPREFIX to the default and different variations and it's not showing up in the output of 'env'
[00:45]  * The0x539 sighs shamedly
[00:46] <zerothis> holstein: yes, I can go back to older mesa 9 but then thousands of packages will rollback as well. I don't want to lie to the package manager either
[00:46] <holstein> The0x539: please take advantage of the #ubuntu-offtopic channel for all non-support related conversation
[00:47] <The0x539> so it's the discussion chan?
[00:47] <holstein> zerothis: you can always just get what you want/need directly
[00:47] <zerothis> yes, as its Turing out, it looks like I'll be compiling mesa for my needs.
[00:47] <holstein> The0x539: its more a matter of what this channel is for.. for official support.. not any other traffic.. thanks for using the appropriate channels
[00:59] <bitcoinassassin> The0x539: the ubuntu-offtopic is usually more fun and you can talk about stuff .... other than support topics..... which is what holstein said, I realize.... just saying it's enjoyable
[00:59] <bitcoinassassin> not that people here aren't fun :-)
[01:01] <SierraAR> Freenode? Enjhoyable? Pffft.
[01:01] <andlabs> Hi. http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/libgtk-3-0 no longer exists, and I want to evaluate backwards-compatibility for my projects. Is there some other source where I can get what version of GTK+ quantal shipped with? Thanks.
[01:02] <bitcoinassassin> :-)
[01:02] <holstein> andlabs: why not a quantal live CD?
[01:03] <andlabs> holstein: I'd rather not download and set that up just to find out
[01:03] <daftykins> you're not a software tester if you can't be bothered to setup a VM
[01:03] <holstein> andlabs: i was suggesting to use for evauluation..
[01:05] <Asterisks> Installing ubuntu 14.04 in a virtualbox, resolution won't go over 800x600. I have guest addition installed (I tried it from the repo and from the Guest Additions CD Image).
[01:05] <Asterisks> Anyone got anything on this?
[01:06] <cai> Is there a VM suite that has faster 3D acceleration than virtualbox that does not require passthrough?
[01:06] <yimwo>  /j #virtual
[01:06] <Beldar> Asterisks, Did you logout than in yet?
[01:07] <Asterisks> Beldar: multiple restarts, after each install of the guest additions.  Even tried reinstalling ubuntu again from the disk image.
[01:07] <holstein> cai: it'll all depend on hardware driver support
[01:07] <Asterisks> Interesting to note that the livecd allows more resolutions, the problem only occurs once installed.
[01:08] <Beldar> Asterisks, Strange never had that problem, with at least 50 installs. Are you  familiar with vbox?
[01:08] <daftykins> Asterisks: was it fully dist-upgrade'd prior to installing guest additions?
[01:08] <Jesse_V> hello guys, I'm having a bit of a problem with a USB device in Trusty
[01:08] <Jesse_V> from dmesg "[20.160265] usb 1-2.2.3.4: device descriptor read/64, error -110"
[01:09] <Jesse_V> I recently upgraded the OS from some ancient image that was installed before, the USB device was recognized properly with the 3.0 kernel
[01:09] <Asterisks> Beldar: Fairly, I've used it on occasion.  Might be useful to note the host OS is OSX Moutain Lion
[01:09] <Beldar> is dkms installed for kernels Asterisks
[01:09] <Jesse_V> and now under 3.8, it isn't, any ideas?
[01:09] <Beldar> Asterisks, in the host
[01:09] <Asterisks> daftykins: No, I have 100kb/s internet, I'm not downloading a bunch of updates.  I fail to see why that should matter, also.
[01:10] <k0balt> anyone there nows how to have a linux boot in text mode ?
[01:10] <daftykins> Asterisks: well let's say someone installed without updates, they installed the guest additions then the updates went on, perhaps they could get a module fail situation where they reboot into the newer kernel that doesn't have the modules.
[01:10] <Beldar> !text | k0balt
[01:10] <brucevein> can anyone here help with a nagios question? no one in #nagios wants to respond :-/
[01:10] <daftykins> brucevein: no. ubuntu only. do not ask again.
[01:11] <Asterisks> daftykins: I installed 30 minutes ago, there have been no updates.
[01:11] <brucevein> daftykins, awesome attitude bro
[01:11] <Asterisks> Beldar: no idea, how should i go about checking
[01:11] <k0balt> OK thank you ubottu
[01:11] <daftykins> Asterisks: so... you installed with updates, however my example still stands.
[01:11] <lw-tec_> test
[01:12] <daftykins> test failed.
[01:12] <k0balt> ubottu: OK thank you
[01:12] <Beldar> Asterisks, You would have t install, not there otherwise and needed, sudo apt-get install dkms
[01:12] <Asterisks> daftykins: I installed on a clean 14.04 install, no updates whatsoever.  at ALL.
[01:12] <k0balt> kkkk
[01:12] <Jesse_V> any ideas guys on my dmesg problem?
[01:12] <k0balt> ok
[01:12] <Asterisks> Beldar: installed and at latest version
[01:12] <daftykins> Asterisks: right but i was giving an example, you can move on now
[01:13] <Asterisks> daftykins: okay, thanks for the example.  I get what you're saying, but that's not the issue
[01:13] <holstein> Asterisks: the host is 14.04? the guest is 14.04?
[01:13] <Asterisks> holstein: The host machine (the one virtualbox is running on) is OSX Mountain Lion (macbook pro)
[01:14] <Beldar> Jesse_V, what is the usb device and what is installed there?
[01:14] <Asterisks> holstein: the guest is ubuntu, and the guest isn't giving any resolutions over 800x600
[01:14] <holstein> Asterisks: id make sure i had updates on both os's applied, and the latest vbox on my host... id check that i have dkms..
[01:14] <Jesse_V> Beldar: it's a USB scientific camera, what do you mean installed there?
[01:15] <BrianH> Anyone know if Libre Impress has a typewriter animation for text?
[01:15] <Beldar> Jesse_V, Read it as a usb with something installed, no one is perfect.
[01:15] <Jesse_V> from dmesg "[20.160265] usb 1-2.2.3.4: device descriptor read/64, error -110"
[01:15] <Jesse_V> I recently upgraded the OS from some ancient image that was installed before, the USB device was recognized properly with the 3.0 kernel
[01:16] <Jesse_V> but under 3.8.13.23, it isn't
[01:16] <Asterisks> holstein: dkms is installed on the guest, and it's the latest virtualbox.  I'm not installing any updates as my internet is 100kb/s
[01:16] <Jesse_V> $ uname -a
[01:16] <Jesse_V> Linux odroid-x2-2 3.8.13.23 #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Jun 3 15:47:50 UTC 2014 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux
[01:16] <Beldar> Jesse_V, The channel does ask for 10 min breaks from post inquiries however.
[01:16] <BrianH> Nvm, found it.
[01:16] <holstein> Asterisks: then, let the volunteers here know when you are ready to do so.. install updates
[01:16] <Jesse_V> Beldar: my apologizes if I broke a rule here, sorry
[01:17] <Beldar> Jesse_V, No biggie :)
[01:17] <Jesse_V> 1656 people in here, I feel like I need to repeat myself to be heard, sorry
[01:17] <Jesse_V> I'm used to channels with ~30 users
[01:18] <z1haze> how can i remove a sym link but not remove the directory that its pointed to, im really nervous about this
[01:18] <jiminails> hi guys general question but important: I installed a second browser and used a free proxy to watch a tv show from home via manual proxy settings in the second browser but i never used this browser for email or it was never a default browser.... my passwards etc should be safe and never exposed that way right?
[01:18] <Asterisks> holstein: explain to me in any way how the updates would help fix this.  It is a clean 14.04 install with virtualbox additions installed.  If that doens't work, then ubuntu and oracle need to be ashamed of themselves
[01:18] <Beldar> Jesse_V, lotta lurking going on. I would though include exactly what the camera is and lsuub sees it as
[01:18] <Beldar> lsusb*
[01:18] <holstein> Asterisks: a new kernel version could easily do so
[01:19] <Jesse_V> Beldar: I don't know how to correlated dmesg | grep usb and lsusb
[01:19] <Beldar> Jesse_V, just run lsisb
[01:19] <Beldar> lsusb
[01:19] <holstein> Asterisks: nothing about ubuntu is preventing you from doing what you are trying to do, though, i understand your frustrations.. it literaly works "out of the box" here.. how are you applying the installation of the guest additions? are there any errors?
[01:20] <Jesse_V> Beldar: there are other things plugged in, but I don't see the camera listed
[01:20] <Asterisks> holstein: there are no errors.  I tried from ubuntu's repositories and from virtualbox's mounted image
[01:21] <holstein> Asterisks: the next suggestion from me, and others is tyring upgrades to the system.. its a good idea
[01:21] <holstein> Asterisks: you want to have upgrades..
[01:21] <Asterisks> holstein: the kernel module is loaded (vboxvideo)
[01:21] <Beldar> Jesse_V, Seems the computer is not even seeing it. Not sure the options, but that is key info.
[01:22] <Asterisks> holstein: the screen is claiming to be 'VBX 0"'
[01:22] <dominic__> i download with qbittorent then it tells me that my disk is full but its not
[01:22] <holstein> dominic__: you download what?
[01:23] <Jesse_V> Beldar: which is interesting, because I can actually read from the camera
[01:23] <dominic__> tv show
[01:23] <jiminails> anyone know if my earlier question is ok? I am worried
[01:23] <Jesse_V> Beldar: so I can use the camera, dmesg shows "116.931887] usb 1-2.2.4.4: new high-speed USB device number 19 using s5p-ehci" right before that odd error message, but just the descriptions are missing
[01:23] <holstein> dominic__: could be, you are not actually downloading what you are trying to download.. i would stop, and get it from the source the creators intend
[01:24] <jiminails> not a ubuntu question in particular sorry but I know as a ubuntu user I can trust your answer
[01:24] <holstein> jiminails: id have to know more.. id use a security channel
[01:24] <dominic__> its been telling me that my disk was getting full a long time ago
[01:24] <holstein> dominic__: ok.. maybe you have downloaded malicious files
[01:25] <Asterisks> holstein: might of gotten somewhere, tried setting virtualbox to fullscreen mode and It's finally detected some higher resolutions
[01:25] <bitcoinassassin> dominic__: so perhaps it's a qbitorrent problem
[01:25] <daftykins> jiminails: no way of knowing
[01:25] <bitcoinassassin> not ubuntu
[01:25] <dominic__> maybe
[01:25] <holstein> Asterisks: i had assumed you had tried those.. thats what you are likely wanting anyways
[01:26] <bitcoinassassin> besides, I don't think this channel supports d/l copyrighted material without paying for it.
[01:26] <Asterisks> holstein: why exactly is that not avaliable in other display modes...  and now my windowed mode is in 4:3 where the actual resolution is 16:10
[01:26] <Asterisks> holstein: as in, the screen is smooshed horizontally
[01:26] <jiminails> ok but technically if I had a proxy setting in that browser just to watch one tv show and never used the proxy as a default system or default browser setting it wud only have passed the tv show data via that proxy right?
[01:27] <holstein> Asterisks: i always just add the driver.. the vbox module, and it works
[01:27] <holstein> jiminails: thats not enough information, friend.. please ask in a security channel
[01:27] <Jesse_V> Beldar: any ideas?
[01:27] <Asterisks> So basically ubuntu/virtualbox/something hates me
[01:27] <bitcoinassassin> basically, yes
[01:27] <bitcoinassassin> kidding
[01:28] <Jesse_V> bitcoinassassin: why are you assassinating BTC?
[01:28] <holstein> Asterisks: not as i see.. you are not using the latest fixes to 14.04, that could be a simple fix.. could not be..
[01:28] <sadpuppy> mallware
[01:29] <d4t> ubuntu users... just like little kids... being introduced into a new wonderful world
[01:29] <holstein> d4t: please use the #ubuntu-offtopic channel for chat. thanks
[01:29] <Asterisks> d4t: if wonderful == filled with problems you have to waste time fixing, then yes
[01:30] <holstein> Asterisks: are you up to date with fixes? friend? if not.. try that..
[01:31] <Asterisks> holstein: It's good enough for now, got it's resolution up a bit..  I'll be on gigabit internet tomorrow so I'll run updates then
[01:31] <Asterisks> holstein: thank you for your help.
[01:33] <Jesse_V> from dmesg: "[20.160265] usb 1-2.2.3.4: device descriptor read/64, error -110" anyone know what this means?
[01:33] <Jesse_V> "new high-speed USB device number 19 using s5p-ehci" is right before that
[01:34] <daftykins> Jesse_V: did you tell us what the device is yet?
[01:35] <Wug> has anyone ever built gtk from source on ubuntu
[01:35] <Wug> I'm beginning to think it's not possible, and that the binary distributions were popped into existence by god himself
[01:35] <holstein> Wug: its packages automatically in ubuntu in the default sources/repositories.. anything else would actually not be technically officially supported
[01:36] <Jesse_V> daftykins: it's a scientific USB camera connected to a USB hub
[01:36] <Jesse_V> it worked just fine with the 3.0 kernel, but when I upgraded the image the description doesn't show up
[01:36] <daftykins> Jesse_V: so it's not going in direct?
[01:36] <Jesse_V> daftykins: but I can read images from the camera
[01:36] <Jesse_V> daftykins: no, but in the past that hasn't mattered
[01:37] <daftykins> does it matter now? :)
[01:37] <holstein> Wug: though, nothing about ubuntu would prevent that.. specifically
[01:37] <holstein> Jesse_V: please try removing the USB hub from the equation
[01:37] <Jesse_V> holstein: I don't have physical access at the moment, and we need to use the hub. It worked just fine with 3.0
[01:37] <Wug> holstein: I'm trying to compile it from the source provided by apt-source libgtk2-de
[01:37] <Wug> dev*
[01:37] <Wug> let me just redo the whole command: apt-get source libgtk2-dev
[01:38] <Jesse_V> holstein: I can use the camera, the device descriptor is just missing for some reason
[01:39] <daftykins> so hang on, the device works...
[01:40] <Jesse_V> daftykins: yes
[01:40] <holstein> Jesse_V: you need to bypass that, and test.. if the unit works, just use it, friend.. the "descriptors" are just that
[01:40] <holstein> Jesse_V: just guesses the kernel is making.. the labels can be incorrect.. just use it if it works
[01:40] <Jesse_V> holstein: is there any way I can get the descriptors to work?
[01:40] <Jesse_V> to appear
[01:41] <Jesse_V> because I grep dmesg to for them in some scripts during sanity checks
[01:41] <holstein> Jesse_V: sure. ask the vendor of the hardware to properly support linux, and supply whatever information a kernel dev would need to do that
[01:41] <Jesse_V> ok
[01:42] <daftykins> which might be done by removing the hub
[01:42] <daftykins> :>
[01:42] <Jesse_V> holstein: also, the devices take a long time to be recognized. As you can see from my dmesg output, were't talking at the two minute mark before they are recognized. I can work around the missing descriptors, but before they were recongnized 3 or 4 seconds in
[01:43] <holstein> Jesse_V: if the device is working, thats more than you were promised by the creators of the software. they never promised you linux support.. just be glad it works.. and dont worry about the labels
[01:43] <Jesse_V> daftykins: yeah ok
[01:43] <daftykins> hmm, that could be some quirky negotiation
[01:43] <holstein> Jesse_V: please try *without* the hub for the load time as well...
[01:43] <holstein> Jesse_V: the entire process is a "work-around".. using it in an unsupported operatin system..
[01:43] <Jesse_V> holstein: ok. We need the hub in production, but for diagostic purposes I'll see if I can try that
[01:44] <holstein> Jesse_V: i would try and use officially supported hardware for production
[01:44] <Jesse_V> holstein: I don't know if Linux is unsupported
[01:44] <Jesse_V> I never said Linux wasn't supported
[01:45] <MontyH> 94% of everything ever written isnt supported in linux
[01:45] <Jesse_V> everything was working well on 3.0, so this is a functionality regression when I upgraded to the 3.8 kernel
[01:45] <holstein> Jesse_V: i know its not.. but, it seems you are expecting it to be.. and you cant.. and cant necessarily expect flawless production performance in that scenario
[01:45] <Jesse_V> hmm
[01:45] <Jesse_V> what are my options then? This is an Odroid X2, so should I post on their forums about this?
[01:46] <daftykins> does the channel topic say Odroid customer support?
[01:46] <holstein> Jesse_V: if they dont support it, they dont support it.. you can post where you like, the ideally, the vendor supports linux
[01:46] <Jesse_V> no, this is #ubuntu
[01:46] <Jesse_V> ok
[01:46] <daftykins> correct.
[01:46] <Jesse_V> well thanks for the help guys, I'll try with them
[01:47] <daftykins> do the hub first ;)
[01:47] <holstein> Jesse_V: but, they are likely doing as promised and advertised.. providing you with windows support.. it'll be up to you to provide your own linux support
[01:47] <Wug> has anyone here built gtk from source who would be willing to help me resolve some fun and interesting build failures
[01:47] <Jesse_V> holstein: that's likely true I suppose
[01:48] <MontyH> I came in late, what is he trying to crossplatform?
[01:48] <Jesse_V> I just didn't know what that message meant in dmesg
[01:48] <MontyH> he meaning Jesse_V
[01:48] <Jesse_V> and if there was anything I could do to fix the problem
[01:48] <Beldar> Wug, Is there beer and cookies. ;)
[01:48] <holstein> Wug: i would use the included version in ubuntu.. otherwise, it'll be up to the creators of the software to provide support
[01:49] <Jesse_V> MontyH: I've got a USB scientific camera that worked perfectly under the 3.0 kernel on my Odroid X2
[01:49] <lastarms> borg
[01:49] <Jesse_V> I'm asking here because I've installed the Ubuntu Trusty LTS system from the Odroid website
[01:49] <Jesse_V> and I don't know what "device descriptor read/64, error -110" means from dmesg
[01:49] <daftykins> MontyH: basically get a company to come unplug a USB hub ;)
[01:52] <Wug> holstein: I am trying to use the version provided by ubuntu
[01:52] <MontyH> Jesse_V: I found a bunch of google fu stuff about that error in particular
[01:52] <Wug> but the exact specific binary distribution provided by ubuntu isn't debuggable
[01:52] <Wug> Beldar: that depends on whether or not you can actually help
[01:52] <Wug> let's go with yes implies yes
[01:53] <Beldar> Wug, hmm free help and you want a contingency, were you born on mars? ;)
[01:53] <Jesse_V> MontyH: yes, I'm not alone in that error, I just don't know what it means or how to fix it
[01:54] <Jesse_V> or why the camera is being recognized so late, at the 2 minute mark instead of 3 or 4 seconds after boot
[01:55] <holstein> Jesse_V: there is nothing to fix..
[01:56] <MontyH> Jesse_V: is there possibly some task hanging before the camera driver is started?
[01:56] <daftykins> holstein: sure there is! there's a hub to unplug!
[01:56] <daftykins> guys, stop humouring this topic until the hub is removed.
[01:56] <MontyH> absolutely death to the hub, bub
[01:56] <Jesse_V> fine
[01:56] <daftykins> only then, will progress be made
[01:57] <holstein> Jesse_V: the hub *has* caused many issues for me..
[01:57] <spice> ubuntu doesn't recognize my old logitech webcam, whihc is wtill working, the light is green
[01:57] <Jesse_V> holstein: ok. It just wasn't a problem before
[01:57] <spice> everything I found online doesn't work
[01:57] <alvaro> Dell inspirion 15R, AMD video card, screen flashing all the time. Does anyone with this problem too?
[01:57] <daftykins> spice: upgrade time?
[01:58] <spice> upgrade ubuntu?
[01:58] <holstein> Jesse_V: there is no problem now
[01:58] <daftykins> spice: the camera
[01:58] <spice> you mean like what exactly?
[01:58] <Jesse_V> holstein: yes, the descriptor is missing, and the camera is recognized only after a long time
[01:59] <holstein> Jesse_V: ok.. let the manufacturer know you would like support for the device in linux, and let them know *all* of ubuntu is open and all of linux as well
[01:59] <rodicio> Hi. Anyone uses zRAM? Do you advise me it with 2 Gigas of RAM?
[01:59] <Jesse_V> ok holstein
[02:00] <holstein> Jesse_V: being useable in any way is nice, in an operating system that you were not promised, in any way, support for
[02:01] <holstein> Jesse_V: i do audio production, and i plug *many* audio devices in that work in some kernel, and not in another.. or load slow, or not at all.. it happens.. and unless im promised linux support, thats what i expect
[02:01] <Jesse_V> holstein: I'm not sure if Linux support was promised or not
[02:01] <holstein> Jesse_V: ask them..
[02:01] <Jesse_V> I think the manufacturer is "ZOptical Company"
[02:02] <Jesse_V> nm, that's wrong
[02:02] <holstein> Jesse_V: im saying, on the devices im specifically referencing, for my production environment, if its not provided, i dont expect it
[02:03] <Jesse_V> holstein: that's a good position to take
[02:03] <skinux> Can someone please explain to me why trying to copy 30G Ubuntu partition to a 60G partition, Ubuntu not only says it's trying to copy 140TB, but also says 60G isn't enough space for 30G of data?
[02:04] <spice> i need some practical help as a beginner, simple things like: how do i work with only 1 part of the multiple desktop thing and how can i easily switch between the stuff i opened etcetera
[02:04] <holstein> skinux: i have seen that on failing hardware
[02:04] <spice> i like ubuntu, but i have the idea i am missing a few things / cannot find where what is
[02:04] <holstein> skinux: alt-tab switches
[02:05] <holstein> spice: ^
[02:05] <spice> ah ok
[02:05] <Jesse_V> spice: if you install the Cinnamon desktop, you can also swap from one workspace to another
[02:05] <Jesse_V> which is very handy
[02:05] <holstein> spice: alt-tab switches on most operating systems
[02:05] <spice> is it possible alt tab just doenst work for me?
[02:05] <spice> i tried that before
[02:06] <holstein> you can swap workspaces in any DE, really
[02:06] <Jesse_V> holstein: even on KDE?
[02:06] <holstein> Jesse_V: you can set it to what you like in KDE
[02:07] <holstein> its all open, and configurable.. and other DE's are easily useable
[02:07] <spice> a friend helped me to puyt ubuntu on this pc also, he said my pc was a friend of bill i could have never done it without some help, i somehow have a feeling this pc is still somehow struggling with some things
[02:07] <holstein> spice: what are you used to? windows xp? osx?
[02:07] <spice> sometimes it acts strange
[02:07] <spice> i had before lets think
[02:07] <spice> windows 8
[02:07] <spice> that was horror
[02:07] <spice> if i think about it
[02:07] <holstein> spice: we cant address "strange".. only factual questions..
[02:07] <Jesse_V> yep
[02:07] <spice> these tiles!
[02:07] <spice> horror! my location, the weather everything
[02:07] <spice> brrrrrr
[02:08] <holstein> spice: you may find xubuntu/xfce more like the windows workflow
[02:08] <spice> windows 8 stalks you
[02:08] <spice> i dont want that
[02:08] <holstein> spice: i was talking about, what is the OS you are used to using? not the last one
[02:08] <spice> i want to learn ubuntu
[02:08] <holstein> spice: xubuntu *is* ubuntu
[02:08] <spice> then switch to something else like slackware
[02:08] <Jesse_V> spice: you might look into Linux Mint with Cinnamon, along with Ubuntu it's a good distro for beginners
[02:08] <holstein> spice: those *are* ubuntu options
[02:08] <Foxhoundz> Does ubuntu have drivers for the following wireless USB card
[02:08] <spice> ah ok
[02:09] <tmv> Is better to start with slackware
[02:09] <Foxhoundz> https://wikidevi.com/wiki/TP-LINK_Archer_T4U
[02:09] <stevenpage129> a
[02:09] <spice> tmv, i'm starting to think the same
[02:09] <holstein> spice: im only suggesting, xfce is a bit more like windows was.. so, you may find it more "familiar" than unity may feel
[02:09] <Foxhoundz> I've been trying to get my TP-Link Wireless NIC to work but it doesn't seem like there are any drivers available
[02:09] <spice> with ubuntu i still have to learn to work graphical like windows
[02:09] <Foxhoundz> any help would be much appreciate it
[02:09] <holstein> "better" is a matter of opinion, but this is not the slackware channel..
[02:09] <stevenpage129> anybody have experience with clamav folder exclusion regular expressions?
[02:09] <Jesse_V> holstein: why xfce over Cinnamon? speed?
[02:10] <spice> tmv that sounded very encouraging your response :)
[02:10] <holstein> Jesse_V: its an open channel, friend.. suggest what you like.. i suggest xfce over cinnamon due to gtk possible issues.. stability is why i personally suggested xfce..
[02:10] <tmv> spice: Well, slackware is really in the POSIX side
[02:10] <spice> so far i need ubuntu right now because i work with skype, but also working with skype is somewhat challenging
[02:10] <holstein> tmv: please use the #ubuntu-offtopic channel, or a slackware channel to discuss. thanks
[02:11] <spice> anyone else here using skype on ubuntu?
[02:11] <tmv> Me too spice¡
[02:11] <holstein> spice: yes
[02:11] <spice> ah ok
[02:11] <Jesse_V> I'm using Skype in Mint, same thing really
[02:11] <holstein> Jesse_V: its actually not
[02:12] <Jesse_V> well, ok
[02:12] <stevenpage129> im trying to exclude folders using the find command, using --prune, but none of the examples i have found seem to work. anybody have any experience with this?
[02:13] <spice> i find it somewhat annoying that when i have a group convo, the only way to get back to the first screen (with below the options like recent chats, sign out etcetera), it's like i can't have all open the same time
[02:13] <spice> plus contact who are offline stay online in my group chats
[02:13] <holstein> spice: there are many other desktop environments.. many that "act" more like windows did.. unity is not trying to do that..
[02:13] <spice> isn't there a skype manual for ubuntu or so? :D
[02:13] <holstein> !skype
[02:13] <spice> ah ok
[02:13] <holstein> spice: its not an open application
[02:14] <spice> i have it installed!
[02:14] <spice> ah ok, so these things are things i need to learn how to live with?
[02:14] <spice> :D
[02:14] <holstein> spice: tell the maintainers of the application
[02:15] <Asterisks> I have yet to find an open application that works as well as skype
[02:15] <holstein> spice: they are not providing an open project that ubuntu has control over..
[02:15] <spice> skype is known for constant changes yes
[02:15] <holstein> spice: its not the change.. its that its not open, and not able to be addressed
[02:16] <spice> like first i could as a host edit messages of my students which was very handy, a year ago they got rid of that option
[02:16] <Asterisks> spice: can still do it with old skype
[02:16] <formerlyLemons> hello!
[02:16] <Asterisks> and html in messages, too.
[02:16] <spice> ok i must check it then
[02:16] <holstein> spice: ubuntu and linux are open, so the creators and maintainers of skype are welcome to provide flawless performance for linux.. but, if they dont, we cant address anything, since its not open
[02:16] <spice> i see
[02:17] <formerlyLemons> running Trusty Tahr 14.04 on a Compaq Presario V2000 here!
[02:17] <Asterisks> holstein: "creators and maintainers of skype", creators sold to microsoft
[02:17] <lastarms> Skype is owned by Microsoft.... who hates anything non-microsoft
[02:17] <Asterisks> and we all know their stance on anything that
[02:17] <Asterisks> that's not making them tons of $$$
[02:17] <spice> i know skype is evil, i just need it for my work
[02:17] <spice> :p
[02:17] <holstein> Asterisks: sure.. but that doenst change the facts.. they *can* provide support..
[02:17] <lastarms> spice: skype is not evil. Microsoft is
[02:17] <Asterisks> holstein: can and will are two different things
[02:17] <spice> so skype is now too :p
[02:17] <holstein> "evil" is a matter of opinion.. fact is, they can provide support if they want.. linux is open
[02:18] <Asterisks> spice: skype itself is a great program and the origional creators should of never sold it.
[02:18] <holstein> if they dont, then we cant address it, since we cant see the code
[02:18] <formerlyLemons> yeah, I haven't trusted MSoft after hearing about how their "Common Core" system was all up and fucking up the young children's thinkpans
[02:18] <lastarms> It's just time to change. People should stop using skype
[02:18] <spice> its what always happens, stars and stripes always buy knowhow
[02:18] <spice> every great attempt will go that way
[02:18] <holstein> !language | formerlyLemons
[02:18] <Asterisks> lastarms: people should stop using all microsoft products, but it's not gunna happen
[02:18] <spice> money makes ideals nothing but air
[02:19] <formerlyLemons> right spice.
[02:19]  * reisio prefers everything nice
[02:19] <Asterisks> spice: money = √evil
[02:19] <skypce> hello people
[02:19] <lastarms> Asterisks: I would like to think not all Microsoft Product are evil
[02:19] <spice> hello skypce
[02:20] <lastarms> I mean, for sure their shirts are not evil...
[02:20] <Asterisks> lastarms: products, maybe not.  the upper management, yes.
[02:20] <lastarms> are they?
[02:20] <funkster> anyone familiar with how i setup lightdm on 14.04 - it changed a bit, i want auto login
[02:20] <Jesse_V> MS Office is nice, although expensive
[02:20] <formerlyLemons> I mean despite the slight hassle it takes to install ubuntu, its well worth it, and hi skypce!
[02:20] <lastarms> Jesse_V: MS Office has always been *cough* free
[02:20] <holstein> please utilize the #ubuntu-offtopic channel for discussion.. thanks
[02:20] <skypce> i have this code getent passwd 1000 | awk -F: '{ print $1 }' > $1 | usermod -a -G audio $1
[02:20] <skypce>   only works part before | after that i want doesnt work
[02:20] <skypce> :)
[02:20] <Asterisks> lastarms: so have all the adobe products
[02:20] <reisio> funkster: find /etc/ -iname '*lightdm*'
[02:20] <reisio> funkster: egrep -ilr login /etc/whatever
[02:21] <funkster> reisio: i already have it installed...
[02:21] <reisio> funkster: that'll answer your question
[02:21] <reisio> not some other question you seem to think that I think you've asked :)
[02:21] <funkster> there is no sample configs, so no. doesnt help.
[02:21]  * formerlyLemons casually pushes torrent clients towards everyone (best free resource for free microsoft products }:D)
[02:21] <spice> i only got rid of windows out of principle although i worked with it for years knowing what was going on
[02:21] <spice> :p
[02:21] <reisio> funkster: sure it does
[02:21] <spice> it will hurt , but a bit of brainpain can be good from time to time
[02:21] <Asterisks> formerlyLemons: and free movies, music, TV shows, adobe products, and porn
[02:22] <spice> i did fdisk -l to check my partitions, then my computer crashed
[02:22] <spice> comment of my friend: your pc loves bill
[02:22] <formerlyLemons> *glances fondly at my collection of Deadmau5's music through GnomeMediaPlayer* thank you torrents
[02:23] <spice> and the bios protects windows
[02:23] <spice> and more and more computers will become like this
[02:23] <spice> says my friend
[02:23] <reisio> mmm, what it actually protects is the VAR's proprietary nonsense
[02:23] <spice> till it's all gone
[02:23] <lastarms> skypce: I'm not comfortable with one liner... but is it possible that $1 is not piping over?
[02:23] <reisio> spice: never happen :p
[02:24] <spice> lol
[02:24] <spice> i know he is a pessimist
[02:24] <Asterisks> spice: what is this about BIOS protecting windows?
[02:24] <spice> he got me interested
[02:24] <reisio> spice: it's worth whining about, but it'll never happen :)
[02:24] <spice> with this windows boot manger thing
[02:25] <spice> so next thing i'm going to do is connect a couple of computers with linux on it now, slowly, i'l take my time
[02:25] <spice> and see what else i can do :D
[02:25] <formerlyLemons> I honestly prefer when Microsoft was smaller
[02:25] <spice> lol
[02:25] <formerlyLemons> like, MS-Dos era
[02:25] <spice> hahaha
[02:26] <tmv> Good times...apple was good too at that times
[02:26] <muddlethru> nostalgia
[02:26] <holstein> please enjoy chat and discussion in the #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[02:27] <sunco50> nostalgia ain't what it used to be.
[02:27] <sunco50> sorry
[02:27] <formerlyLemons> but their success has caused them to do some pretty freaky things, like Common Core, which is ran and funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. As a person becoming a Junior in high school I can see how its screwing up everything about the education system.
[02:28] <spice> no, seriously, it's disgusting what happened, all these personalized adds, the ads on youtube band elsewhere getting longer and longer, google plus and youtube and all these big names playing together now, i hate it so much, and especially i hate the traditional media now acting as if they discovered and master the knowledge about internet because they now report about all stupid sicial media like twitter and facebook and youtube
[02:29] <holstein> spice: friend, please use the #ubuntu-offtopic channel.. thanks!
[02:29] <spice> i hate all of them :p
[02:29] <spice> ok holstein
[02:29] <skypce> i have this
[02:29] <skypce> not work :S
[02:29] <skypce>  echo ${getent passwd 1000 | awk -F: '{ print $1 }'}  | usermod -a -G audio $1
[02:33] <e19293001> i can't boot from usb drive
[02:34] <e19293001> downloaded iso and mounted the iso to usb using universal usb installer
[02:35] <e19293001> any help?
[02:35] <sunco50> Did you change the boot order?
[02:35] <reisio> e19293001: try http://unetbootin.sf.net/
[02:35] <e19293001> yes. i changed the boot order too
[02:35] <reisio> on some "classy" BIOSes, it's not enough to change the order, ou have to disable the internal disks :)
[02:36] <reisio> you* have
[02:36] <e19293001> reisio, thanks. i'll try this one
[02:36] <sunco50> Did you turn off quickboot or fast boot or secure boot or whatever windows calls it?
[02:36] <e19293001> how to turn it off?
[02:38] <Beldar> e19293001, get acquainted with the per-session boot menu, never change the bios again. ;)
[02:38] <spice> windows boot manager
[02:38] <Beldar> bios boot that be*
[02:38] <sunco50> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn481258.aspx
[02:38] <sunco50> to turn off secure boot
[02:38] <SchrodingersScat> skypce: that should probably be a $( at the beginning, not a ${ ? and it would also need a closing )
[02:39] <skypce> thank you SchrodingersScat
[02:40] <e19293001> sunco50: the link you gave applies to windows 8, i think. i use windows 7.
[02:41] <sunco50> e19293001: http://www.everydaylinuxuser.com/2013/09/install-ubuntu-linux-alongside-windows.html step number 4 on this page
[02:43] <reisio> e19293001: try unetbootin first :p
[02:44] <e19293001> i'll give it a try. buy for now. thanks for your support sunco and reisio.
[02:44] <sunco50> reisio: I use the two interchangeably xd
[02:44] <sunco50> Okay gl
[02:51] <funkster> if i have server .desktop files in /usr/share/xessions/ what happens? how do i tell a specific user that logs in (auto login) to load a specific file for a certain window manager/script i have
[02:53] <reisio> funkster: like a new user?
[02:53] <reisio> probably /etc/skel or the like
[02:53] <funkster> reisio: no, its not a new user.
[02:53] <reisio> otherwise ~/.xinitrc
[02:53] <reisio> or ~/.config/autostart (varies some by wm/DE)
[02:54] <funkster> or.. how many options you going to give lol?
[02:54] <reisio> mmm, that's enough for me
[02:54] <reisio> if you're more specific, I can be :p
[02:54] <funkster> none of those help.
[02:54] <funkster> how can i be more specific, if you dont understand something, ask?
[02:55] <metaphysician> security.ubuntu.com is too slow for me, <10 KiB/s !
[02:55] <reisio> funkster: sorry I asked you to ask first
[02:55] <skypce> guys
[02:55] <skypce> this is more near
[02:55] <skypce> echo $(getent passwd 1000 | awk -F: '{ print $1 }') | usermod -a -G audio $0
[02:55] <reisio> skypce: what're you up to?
[02:55] <skypce> but returns me "bash"
[02:56] <skypce> i want add a existent user to existent group via bash script
[02:56] <skypce> i want add a existent user to existent group via bash script reisio
[02:56] <funkster> reisio: you are just being annoying at this point, if you arent going to help. dont attempt to troll, its silly.
[02:58] <reisio> can't help you do something arbitrary
[02:58] <reisio> the reason there are so many solutions to your problem is because your problem is inspecific
[03:00] <CarlosC> God evening
[03:00] <CarlosC> Good
[03:13] <Gfgfhfgfgtygtggg> Hey?
[03:13] <reisio> Gfgfhfgfgtygtggg: you said it
[03:14] <Gfgfhfgfgtygtggg> How do I get to the desktop from the terminal without restarting computer ?
[03:16] <reisio> Gfgfhfgfgtygtggg: CTRL+ALT+F7, possibly
[03:17] <Gfgfhfgfgtygtggg> Ok, I'll try
[03:17] <Fall> Gfgfhfgfgtygtggg: how is that pronounced?
[03:17] <Gfgfhfgfgtygtggg> Lol. It was random
[03:17] <Fall> :)
[03:19] <reisio> Gfgfh "It"; fg "was"; fgtyg "random", duh
[03:21] <sadpuppy> Gfgfhfgfgtygtggg so weird
[03:21] <Gfgfhfgfgtygtggg> All I did yhfghffdgfhf
[03:27] <stoned> Just got abused by an ubuntu op in offtopic
[03:27] <stoned> Apparently he feels no shame.
[03:28] <Robbie_Crash> hwo long should usremod -g XXX take?
[03:28] <stoned> reisio, you're so weird
[03:28] <stoned> :)
[03:28] <newvirus> download me
[03:29]  * stoned downloads newvirus 
[03:30]  * stoned executes newvirus 
[03:30] <stoned> newvirus, you're now dead.
[03:30] <stoned> Executed! :D
[03:30] <stoned> Heh. Heh.
[03:31] <Asterisks> holstein: still around?
[03:32] <alvaro> E: Unable to locate package ruby1.9.3, how to proceed with this?
[03:32] <Asterisks> !ruby
[03:32] <alvaro> so frustrating!
[03:33] <alvaro> lol
[03:33] <Asterisks> nothing about ruby..
[03:33] <Asterisks> hmm
[03:33] <Asterisks> alvaro: you need 1.9.3 specifically?
[03:33] <alvaro> yeah.
[03:33] <alvaro> and rails3
[03:33] <alvaro> :P
[03:34] <alvaro> both with same erro
[03:34] <alvaro> E: Unable to locate package rails3
[03:34] <alvaro> E: Unable to locate package ruby1.9.3
[03:36] <bourn007> who are you
[03:37] <ligero> Hola
[03:37] <alvaro> yo
[03:37] <cfhowlett> bourn007 this is ubuntu support channel.  ask your ubuntu questions
[03:39] <ligero> alguien tiene experiencia con gmusicbrowser?
[03:39] <cfhowlett> !es|ligero
[03:41] <ligero> gracias por la aclaracion, soy nuevo en esto.
[03:42] <root_____> hello
[03:42] <root_____> exit
[03:43] <root_____> exit()
[03:43] <root_____> q
[03:43] <root_____> q!
[03:43] <cfhowlett> root_____ that would be /exit
[03:44] <root_____> thanks, I'm sorry. I'm using for first time irssi
[03:45] <cfhowlett> root_____ not to worry.  matter of fact, that /exit *could* be only for xchat client so ... fee free to disregard if I am wrong
[03:53] <Wug> has anyone here built gtk from source who would be willing to help me resolve some fun and interesting build failures
[03:53] <jayd3e> I'm having trouble creating files in /proc in 14.04
[03:53] <jayd3e> anyone know what's causing it? I need to be able to add this file "/proc/sys/net/netfilter/nf_conntrack_tcp_timeout_close_wait"
[03:55] <Wug> jayd3e: I might be misunderstanding how /proc works, but I'm pretty sure that the contents of /proc reflect what your kernel has support for, you can't just create files there and have them magically work
[03:55] <Wug> if something's missing from there, check to see if updating your kernel introduces it
[03:55] <jayd3e> Wug: so the weird thing is I've definitely done this before
[03:55] <MontyH> fire good, magic bad
[03:56] <jayd3e> Wug: potentially on an older kernel,  but don't know
[03:56] <infinmed> hi
[03:57] <MontyH> ok friends and neighbors, on Monday 00:00:00 cst I received a hack from 2 ip's one geolocated from china, the other from vietnam. they managed to slip a crontab in my  machine that kept beating to the root door, we all know this will never work with ubuntu. but how did they get a crontab in my machine?
[03:58] <SchrodingersScat> what was the crontab?
[03:58] <MontyH> it kept running logon to ssh as user "root"
[03:58] <MontyH> I let it run till 12:32:00 wednesday
[03:58] <SchrodingersScat> to localhost? why would they ssh?
[03:58] <MontyH> 46 pages of logs
[03:59] <Wug> MontyH: most people don't measure logs in number of pages
[03:59] <MontyH> its the best metric I can give you
[03:59] <Wug> not lines? bytes?
[03:59] <MontyH> over and over and over the cron ran and it tried again
[03:59] <Wug> what, did you print your log or something
[04:00] <MontyH> no I asked it to print and it said 46 pages and I cancelled
[04:00] <Wug> that's not a good way of figuring out how long your log is :|
[04:00] <MontyH> I'm just curious how you would shut down cron on ubuntu
[04:00] <sydney> Welcome to June 12th!!
[04:00] <Nubuntu> hey guys, thanks to your help im running now from Ubuntu 14.04 LTS. I installed on hard drive (1), however Ubuntu only shows 1 partition as accessible and my "data drive" isnt showing, only the one I installed on? How do I get ubuntu to show and let me use all storage devices?
[04:00] <Wug> you probably don't actually want to shut down cron
[04:00] <Wug> cron is responsible for scheduled tasks
[04:01] <MontyH> I need somehow to cron.deny ALL but ubuntu does not use cron.deny as a config file
[04:01] <Wug> MontyH: can you be more specific
[04:01] <Wug> what file were the log entries in
[04:01] <MontyH> I know what cron does, I've been with ubuntu since breezy
[04:01] <Wug> and, what did they look like
[04:01] <Wug> and yet you measure logs in pages instead of lines
[04:02] <Lrrr1> lol
[04:02] <MontyH> it was /var/log/auth.log
[04:02] <Wug> can you post a sample
[04:02] <jayd3e> anyone know how to change the value of nf_conntrack_tcp_timeout_close_wait in 14.04?
[04:02] <MontyH> and there are no friggin line numbers in that file
[04:02] <Lrrr1> he's using a gui give him a break lol
[04:02] <Wug> MontyH: wc -l
[04:02] <Nubuntu> anyone? just need to know how to get Ubuntu to show and let me use all my hard drives after default install on 40GB partition only.
[04:02] <jayd3e> net.netfilter.nf_conntrack_tcp_timeout_close_waita
[04:03]  * Wug marks as resolved "pebcak"
[04:03] <Wug> Nubuntu: are the drives formatted?
[04:04] <Wug> i.e., do they already have data on them, or are they new and unused
[04:04] <Nubuntu> wug, drive 1 is still unallocated from Gparted deletion, and drive 2 is what i partitioned for Windows 7 dual boot and Linux / and /home, however there should still show some free space from that one also, right?
[04:05] <Lrrr1> jayd3e: that's in the sysctl.conf i believe
[04:05] <jayd3e> Lrrr1: where is that located?
[04:05] <Lrrr1> jayd3e: what do you need to change it for? :-\
[04:05] <jayd3e> Lrrr1: I have connections that last longer than 60 seconds
[04:06] <Lrrr1> i see...
[04:06] <Nubuntu> wug, and all i see right now is one 42GB volume in the gui
[04:06] <Wug> Nubuntu: you should be able to issue "sudo fdisk -l" which will list your available hard drives and any partitions they may have
[04:06] <jayd3e> Lrrr1: where is the sysctl.conf located?
[04:06] <Wug> one will probably report no partitions somehow
[04:06] <Lrrr1> seems like something you'd know if it was something you knew what you were doing... but it's located at /etc/sysctl.conf
[04:06] <Lrrr1> i believe
[04:06] <jayd3e> kk awesome, thanks
[04:07] <Wug> what you should do then is format any unformatted space you want to use (use gparted for that), then edit your fstab file (/etc/fstab) as root, and add the mount points with the block devices listed by fdisk -l
[04:07] <Wug> be careful when using gparted and fdisk
[04:08] <Nubuntu> wug, it shows both so what format do i use for Ubuntu
[04:08] <DrakkenWarr> o7 gents
[04:08] <Wug> what do you mean "what format"? what filesystem type for new partitions? I'd pick ext4
[04:09] <Nubuntu> wug, im new to linux so im asking specifically how to edit the fstab without screwing myself lol
[04:09] <Guest1481> In my /etc/ssh/sshd_config I set "PasswordAuthentication no" and removed the # then restarted the service. I'm still able to authenticate via password without the key. Anything I'm forgetting?
[04:09] <DrakkenWarr> if you are that new? Stick with Gparted. Stay with GUI interface
[04:09] <Nubuntu> wug, so i dont put mount points via Gparted?
[04:09] <Wug> Nubuntu: I suggest you copy the line for the root filesystem (whichever line mounts /) and change the block device and mount point, and leave everything else the same
[04:10] <Nubuntu> or you were just saying alternatively?
[04:10] <DrakkenWarr> You can set mount points
[04:10] <Nubuntu> wug, sorry what do you mean by copying the line for the root
[04:10] <Wug> I'm not sure if gparted is responsible for setting mount points, its been a while sicne I've used it
[04:11] <Nubuntu> wug, yes it has the capability
[04:11] <Lrrr1> Gparted can set mount points
[04:11] <Wug> use that then
[04:11] <Lrrr1> i'm almost positive
[04:11] <Nubuntu> so i just mount all unallocated space to root and assign to ext4?
[04:11] <Lrrr1> but usually i mount by cli anyways
[04:11] <Lrrr1> mount to root?
[04:11] <Nubuntu> wug, i mean mount /
[04:11] <Wug> you can't mount unallocated space, you have to actually create a partition
[04:11] <Wug> and no, you need to leave your root filesystem as it is
[04:11] <DrakkenWarr> not all space you should give around 8 gig to /root and the rest to home if you are starting out with linux
[04:11] <Lrrr1> and yes you need to make a partition before you can mount anything
[04:11] <Nubuntu> when i create partitions it asks if i should use a mount point
[04:12] <Wug> make a new mount point for the new partitions
[04:12] <DrakkenWarr> ^^
[04:12] <Nubuntu> and primary or logical etc..
[04:12] <Lrrr1> you should have a directory called /media.. I'd mount to that
[04:12] <Lrrr1> or /mount
[04:12] <DrakkenWarr> primary for root logical for everything else
[04:12] <Nubuntu> ok so all space i want for data create partition and mount to /media?
[04:12] <Lrrr1> no
[04:13] <Lrrr1> mount /media/name of folder
[04:13] <Lrrr1> dont just mount to the root level of /media
[04:13] <Wug> /media is usually used as a place for the OS to mount things like flash drives, so you wouldn't want to mount directly to it
[04:13] <Nubuntu> custom mount via Gparted?
[04:13] <Lrrr1> give me a sec
[04:13] <Lrrr1> i gotta look
[04:13] <Lrrr1> i dont remember how to set the mount point in gparted
[04:14] <Lrrr1> but i'm almost sure you can...
[04:14] <Nubuntu> if theres a guide or maybe the steps thats easier for me i dont want to fry anything..Gparted is powerful
[04:14] <Lrrr1> i normally use the mount command tho
[04:14] <DrakkenWarr> create the partition and right click on it
[04:14] <Lrrr1> nubuntu what are you setting up?
[04:14] <Lrrr1> just an external drive or a second drive?
[04:14] <Nubuntu> Lrrrl, I want to split my 750 GB hard drive between windows and Ubuntu or so they can both use for media
[04:14] <Lrrr1> assuming you are running gparted from the local hard drive you cant really mess it up
[04:15] <Lrrr1> gparted cant edit a harddrive in use
[04:15] <Lrrr1> ah ok so you are booting onto a CD to do this i assume?
[04:15] <Nubuntu> Lrrrl, ok good to know
[04:15] <DrakkenWarr> ^^ if you are booting from a live cd, you have to unmount the local hd
[04:15] <Lrrr1> yes what DrakkenWarr said
[04:15] <Nubuntu> no im on Ubuntu if thats what youre asking
[04:15] <Lrrr1> i believe that gparted is included in the ubuntu live cd
[04:15] <Nubuntu> im on Dualboot on a 120GB SSD, split between OS's
[04:16] <Lrrr1> you need to boot from CD and use gparted
[04:16] <Lrrr1> i thought you were wanting to split a 750GB?
[04:16] <Nubuntu> Lrrrl, why do i need to boot from CD if the other drive isnt being used?
[04:16] <Lrrr1> or is that a second drive?
[04:16] <DrakkenWarr> Nubuntu, fire up gparted, grab a screen shot, put it on imgur.com so we can see what you see
[04:16] <Lrrr1> oh i thought it was
[04:16] <Nubuntu> yes i have one for OS's and the one for media which i want to let both OS's use or partition
[04:16] <Lrrr1> yes do what DrakkenWarr said
[04:17] <Lrrr1> i see so the 750GB is not currently in use
[04:17] <Nubuntu> np, whats macro for SS in Ubuntu
[04:17] <Lrrr1> then you do not need to boot from CD for that...
[04:17] <Nubuntu> both OS's are on the SSD, so i dont think the other would be in use, right?
[04:17] <Lrrr1> well prnt scrn will show the whole screen
[04:18] <DrakkenWarr> We really need that GParted baseline to understand what you are trying to do man
[04:18] <Nubuntu> ok, one sec
[04:18] <Lrrr1> there's also an app buiilt in called "Screenshot"
[04:18] <DrakkenWarr> thanks
[04:18] <DrakkenWarr> shutter is also awesome sauce once you have a good install
[04:18] <Lrrr1> also in gparted make sure you select the correct drive in the upper right hand drop down
[04:19] <DrakkenWarr> http://shutter-project.org/
[04:19] <sam_> .
[04:19] <Lrrr1> Nubuntu: ^^^
[04:23] <Nubuntu_> .
[04:24] <Nubuntu_> ok a bigger problem surfaced, somehow Gparted is not on my system now. All it shows is a wikipedia reference?
[04:25] <DrakkenWarr> that is from your live cd Nubuntu?
[04:26] <Nubuntu_> DrakkenWarr, no Im running from the fresh install, i did use distro upgrade and had to install (2) driver packages im not sure if distro would remove Gparted?
[04:26] <Lrrr1> Nubuntu_, sudo apt-get install gparted
[04:27] <Lrrr1> it doesnt install by default when you install ubuntu... however it is on the live cd by default
[04:27] <Lrrr1> once the command is done you should be able to find it in the dash
[04:28] <Nubuntu_> Lrrrl, ok good to know i was worried. I got it now
[04:29] <Lrrr1> Nubuntu_, once you launch gparted look in the upper right hand side there is a drop down menu... select the 750GB drive from it
[04:30] <Lrrr1> then take a screenshot and upload it for us to see
[04:31] <McMido> guys how to enable ssh in ubuntu ??
[04:31] <Lrrr1> install openssh server
[04:31] <McMido> apt-get install openssh server ??
[04:31] <Lrrr1> sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[04:31] <Lrrr1> also you should do the client too
[04:31] <McMido> alright Ty :)
[04:32] <Lrrr1> or at least i always do... dont think you need the client to run ssh server
[04:32] <Lrrr1> but no hurt to install it too
[04:32] <Lrrr1> sudo apt-get install openssh-client
[04:32] <Lrrr1> once you install it your server will automatically be listening on 22 for ssh connections
[04:32] <McMido> E: Unable to locate package openssh-serve
[04:32] <Lrrr1> you forget the r in server?
[04:32] <McMido> oh my bad
[04:33] <Lrrr1> openssh-server
[04:33] <Lrrr1> do client too
[04:33] <McMido> right and i dont need the client atm :)
[04:33] <McMido> well how to start the openssh-server now ?
[04:33] <Lrrr1> it's already started
[04:34] <McMido> oh
[04:34] <Lrrr1> just go to a client and try to ssh in
[04:34] <Lrrr1> i assume you know how to do that?
[04:34] <Nubuntu_> http://postimg.org/image/wcdz5le09/
[04:34] <McMido> :D well i dont think so
[04:34] <bytetrial> :D well i dont think so
[04:34] <Nubuntu_> http://postimg.org/image/65cs9mvqh/
[04:35] <Lrrr1> Nubuntu_, i assume you just want to edit the 750gb drive right?
[04:35] <Nubuntu_> I posted one of the empty drive and the SSD with OS's
[04:35] <Nubuntu_> probably, probably better to save SSD space for other things
[04:35] <Lrrr1> ok go back into the empty drive selection
[04:35] <Nubuntu_> so ideally to use this drive in both windows and Ubuntu
[04:35] <Lrrr1> select that in the drop down menu in gparted
[04:36] <Lrrr1> yes but we only need to edit the 750 we dont need to touch your ssd drive
[04:36] <Nubuntu_> right, i think i can use that SSD space to extend my existing partitions later?
[04:36] <Lrrr1> once you have that... right click the unallocated partition
[04:37] <Lrrr1> select "New"
[04:37] <DrakkenWarr> okay cool So like Lrrr1 said
[04:37] <Lrrr1> it a window will pop up, and you can slide the arrows side to side to adjust the size of the partition
[04:37] <Nubuntu_> ok new
[04:37] <Lrrr1> you can also manually type in the size you want the first partition
[04:37] <Lrrr1> just leave it as primary partition
[04:38] <Lrrr1> that doesnt matter
[04:38] <Nubuntu_> i get all that, i just need to know if i label
[04:38] <Nubuntu_> thats what i was asking earlier regarding mount
[04:38] <Lrrr1> but select the filesystem to be ntfs or ext4 depedning
[04:38] <Lrrr1> it doesnt need a label
[04:38] <Lrrr1> ???
[04:38] <DrakkenWarr> Nubuntu pm me
[04:38] <Nubuntu_> sorry ext4 i mean
[04:38] <BlackWeb> Does anyone use VLC and does it freeze like a bitch
[04:38] <Lrrr1> the label isnt used in mounting
[04:39] <Nubuntu_> label is just ID then?
[04:39] <Nubuntu_> or drive name i mean
[04:39] <Lrrr1> you mount with the device name...  so mount /dev/sdb /media/drive
[04:39] <cfhowlett> BlackWeb family friendly channel - language
[04:39] <Lrrr1> no the drive name is that /dev/sdb thing you see
[04:39] <Lrrr1> thats the device name
[04:40] <Lrrr1> well actually sorry
[04:40] <BlackWeb> K every minute VLC is freezing to play standard .mp4
[04:40] <Lrrr1> once you create your partition it will give that partition a new label Nubuntu_
[04:40] <Nubuntu_> Lrrr1, im on the step creating the size, so i allocate this part to Ubuntu, leaving the other for win7, right? And then leave ext4 and create, yes?
[04:40] <Lrrr1> not a label (but a device ID)
[04:40] <Lrrr1> yes allocate your first partition
[04:40] <Lrrr1> whatever you want to make it
[04:40] <Nubuntu_> so its just primary, ext4 and size
[04:41] <Lrrr1> if you want it to only be read on ubuntu then yes... ext4
[04:41] <Lrrr1> if you want both ubuntu and windows to see it then ntds
[04:41] <Lrrr1> ntfs*
[04:41] <Lrrr1> or FAT
[04:41] <Lrrr1> but i dont use FAT
[04:42] <Lrrr1> Nubuntu_, dont type anything in label once you make your sizes and what not
[04:42] <Lrrr1> then click "Add"
[04:42] <Blue1> I am having problems with xubuntu not recognizing /dev/sg0
[04:42] <Nubuntu_> Lrrr1, is it bad if i make it for both Win7 and Ubuntu rather than just one, do i even need to split the drive then?
[04:42] <Nubuntu_> or can they just share it
[04:43] <Lrrr1> depends
[04:43] <Lrrr1> i use different partitions
[04:43] <DrakkenWarr> you can split the drive in gparted
[04:43] <Lrrr1> just split it in gparted
[04:43] <Lrrr1> set 50% for ubuntu and the other 50% for Windows
[04:43] <Nubuntu_> Lrrr1, ok my usage will be XBMC or media center on Ubuntu and normal usage on windows
[04:43] <Lrrr1> does windows need access to the ubuntu partition?
[04:44] <DrakkenWarr> samba
[04:44] <Nubuntu_> thats what im asking if theres an advantage to that
[04:44] <Lrrr1> only if he's running BOTH OSes at once
[04:44] <Lrrr1> an advantage to what?
[04:44] <Nubuntu_> for instance im going to do programming
[04:44] <DrakkenWarr> fair enough
[04:44] <Nubuntu_> to NTFS and accessing both as you mentioned
[04:44] <Lrrr1> well again it depends on prefernce
[04:44] <Nubuntu_> versus splitting into 2 partitions
[04:44] <Lrrr1> i cant say
[04:44] <Lrrr1> it depends
[04:45] <Lrrr1> again it's all personal preference
[04:45] <DrakkenWarr> no no no. Split the partitions, keep the formats native for each os
[04:45] <Nubuntu_> windows will see Ubuntu files and vice versa?
[04:45] <Lrrr1> I dont like it cuz i dont like combining my windows files onto my linux drive
[04:45] <Nubuntu_> might get confusing
[04:45] <Lrrr1> makes it harder to sort
[04:45] <Lrrr1> yes
[04:45] <Nubuntu_> yeah thats what i was thinking
[04:45] <Nubuntu_> ok ill split
[04:45] <DrakkenWarr> yes if you install samba, but that can be a pain
[04:45] <Lrrr1> you can set both to be NTFS if you want
[04:45] <DrakkenWarr> if you want cross platform programming get virtualbox
[04:45] <Lrrr1> hwo would samba fix that DrakkenWarr
[04:46] <Lrrr1> it's a dual boot computer
[04:46] <Nubuntu_> ok i added first one, and so i can make the second one now also and then?
[04:46] <DrakkenWarr> it would not Lrrr1, too much going on and shot from the cuff
[04:46] <Lrrr1> if he's booted into windows linux isnt running
[04:46] <Lrrr1> and vice versa
[04:46] <Nubuntu_> i can probably still virtualbox on dualboot obviously
[04:46] <Lrrr1> yes Nubuntu_
[04:46] <DrakkenWarr> which is why I followed up with virtual box as a viable alternative
[04:46] <Lrrr1> yes you can if you want
[04:47] <Nubuntu_> ok so partitions are allocated
[04:47] <Lrrr1> Nubuntu_, what filesystem did you choose for ubuntu
[04:47] <Nubuntu_> ext4
[04:48] <Lrrr1> ok make the next one NTFS
[04:48] <Lrrr1> you can give it a label if you want... But I never assign labels
[04:48] <Lrrr1> once that is done let me know... dont quit gparted yet...
[04:48] <Nubuntu_> ok wait, i thought i was splitting both into ext4?
[04:48] <Lrrr1> you have to apply
[04:48] <Lrrr1> windows cant see ext4
[04:48] <Lrrr1> so No you arent
[04:48] <Lrrr1> one is ext4 and the other is nts
[04:48] <Nubuntu_> oh my bad im making windows one
[04:48] <Nubuntu_> i didnt make yet is why
[04:48] <Lrrr1> ntfs*
[04:49] <Nubuntu_> ok gotcha
[04:49] <Lrrr1> however you could also make BOTH NTFS
[04:49] <Lrrr1> which is what I'd do personally
[04:49] <DrakkenWarr> the first part witll be ext4 (linux) the second for ntfs
[04:49] <Nubuntu_> i might leave a part of the drive for data migration
[04:49] <Lrrr1> that way you can see either drive from either OS
[04:49] <Lrrr1> data migration?
[04:49] <DrakkenWarr> I would keep them separate
[04:49] <Nubuntu_> in case i need to re-partition?
[04:49] <Lrrr1> they will still be seperate DrakkenWarr
[04:50] <Nubuntu_> somewhere to keep media if i need to shift space to one or the other partition or reformat the 4xt4 to NTFS?
[04:50] <Lrrr1> two seperate partitions with the same filesystem
[04:50] <DrakkenWarr> yeah, but you cannont install ubuntu on an ntfs formated partition, it will prompt you to change it
[04:50] <Nubuntu_> so, i shouldnt worry about a neutral NTFS one for media only?
[04:50] <DrakkenWarr> so what you are telling him to do is redundant
[04:50] <cfhowlett> Nubuntu_ note: ntfs is less stable and has less internal correction than NTFS.
[04:50] <Lrrr1> yes but he isnt trying to install ubuntu
[04:50] <Nubuntu_> like 40,40, 20
[04:50] <Lrrr1> pay attention DrakkenWarr he already has ubuntu
[04:50] <Lrrr1> this is a SECOND drive
[04:50] <Nubuntu_> 20 percent for Media from either win or ubuntu
[04:51] <DrakkenWarr> ah yeah, just for storage, disregard
[04:51] <Genitrust> i'm copying some files to a USB drive, and i am constantly getting [  555.768143] usb 2-4: reset high-speed USB device number 5 using ehci-pci
[04:51] <Genitrust> =\
[04:51] <Lrrr1> he has a seperate 120GB SSD that has the OSes on it
[04:51] <Nubuntu_> correct
[04:51] <Lrrr1> I'd set them both to NTFS personally
[04:51] <Genitrust> what's up with that? the drive is going super slow. it's a brand new drive. (i bought 2 of them... and actually this happens with both drives!)
[04:51] <Lrrr1> mainly so you can copy data between OSes
[04:52] <DrakkenWarr> In that respect agreed
[04:52] <Nubuntu_> so, then i just have to keep organized i assume
[04:52] <Lrrr1> if you want
[04:52] <Lrrr1> they will show as two differnt drives
[04:52] <Lrrr1> in windows and linux
[04:52] <Nubuntu_> oh, i see your angle
[04:52] <Nubuntu_> yeah well that makes sense then
[04:52] <Lrrr1> in this case you could set a label if you wanted.. or you can just set the label later in the OS
[04:53] <Nubuntu_> ok ill do 2 NTFS
[04:53] <Lrrr1> also btw... you can use gparted to edit the partitions later without erasing data if you want more or less
[04:53] <Genitrust> Lrrr1, that's weird... i'm also having a "second drive" issue =\
[04:53] <Lrrr1> Genitrust a very different issue
[04:53] <Genitrust> oh -.-
[04:53] <Lrrr1> he's not using USB and he's only trying to partition a drive
[04:54] <Lrrr1> Genitrust your issue may not be drive related at all
[04:54] <Lrrr1> it could be USB related
[04:54] <Lrrr1> Nubuntu_, when you've set everything up dont close gparted
[04:54] <Genitrust> i read all over google that it could be a problem with the ehci driver
[04:54] <Lrrr1> take a screenshot again
[04:55] <Genitrust> which is kind of weird... i dont even know what driver i'd use :(
[04:55] <Nubuntu_> the NTFS's now are primary both ...or?
[04:55] <Lrrr1> yes they can both be marked as primary
[04:56] <Lrrr1> Nubuntu_, where you at now?
[04:57] <Genitrust> http://imgur.com/O90fLvR
[04:57] <Genitrust> ...looks like something's messed up :(
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> whats a good flowchart maker for ubuntu plz?
[04:58] <Lrrr1> looks like an input/output error Genitrust
[04:58] <Genitrust> Lrrr1, yes, i read that
[04:58] <Lrrr1> dunno why not enough information... could be a number of reasons Genitrust
[04:58] <Nubuntu_> ok everything is set, just need to apply changes, you wanted a SS?
[04:58] <Lrrr1> Nubuntu_, if you want... if you're confident then I dont need one
[04:59] <Genitrust> Lrrr1, anything I can do to give the community more information? :D
[04:59] <Lrrr1> i';m doing it alongside Nubuntu_
[04:59] <Lrrr1> Genitrust, maybe the model of computer, the version of ubuntu, the drive you are connecting to it
[04:59] <Lrrr1> that would be a start
[05:00] <Genitrust> it's a new gateway, ubuntu 14.04, and i'm connecting a SanCruzer or something. 64GB USB 2.0
[05:00] <Genitrust> SanDisk*
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> Genitrust: tryed to format with gparted?
[05:01] <Lrrr1> also Genitrust you can look in  /var/log/syslog for disk related errors
[05:01] <Lrrr1> it's already formatted lotuspsychje
[05:01] <Genitrust> lotuspsychje, yup. strangely, i couldn't create an NTFS format; always got a weird problem. so i created a FAT32
[05:01] <Lrrr1> what was the problem with creating an NTFS?
[05:01] <Lrrr1> it should work
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> Genitrust: so you created the fat32 with gparted?
[05:02] <Genitrust> i can give you the problem in a sec when i try to recreate it
[05:02] <Nubuntu_> Lrrr1, ok great they show up in Ubuntu now
[05:02] <Genitrust> lotuspsychje, yes
[05:02] <Lrrr1> good
[05:02] <Lrrr1> did they mount Nubuntu_ ?
[05:02]  * Genitrust running gparted again
[05:02] <Nubuntu_> Lrrr1, i just hit apply, they show up in Gui now
[05:02] <Lrrr1> lotuspsychje, why would an input/output error have to do with his filesystem?
[05:03] <Lrrr1> the fiesystem is mounted therfore he has one assigned
[05:03] <Lrrr1> Nubuntu_, good
[05:03] <Genitrust> at the moment, gparted is booting, and GParted has stalled....waiting.... and the bottom-left status bar says, "Searching /dev/sdf partitions" (that is the USB drive)
[05:03] <Lrrr1> they should show in windows too
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> Lrrr1: i think input/output error is bad news
[05:03] <Lrrr1> yes but lotuspsychje not related to filesystem
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> Genitrust: did you try the ubuntu HD analyzer on your stick?
[05:04] <Lrrr1> it's a problem with either the drive itself, or the communication port
[05:04] <Nubuntu_> Lrrr1, I would imagine they will, I appreciate all the help, oh and i have a question about display drivers
[05:04] <Lrrr1> what's that Nubuntu_
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | Genitrust
[05:04] <Lrrr1> not sure i can help a huge amount on that cuz my ubuntu desktop runs inside vmware which uses it's own driver, and the other machines i use are all servers so they are CLI only
[05:05] <Lrrr1> but i can try to help
[05:06] <Nubuntu_> so when i installed i was having problems, so i purged all and ran some instructionals i think bumblebee? anyways after its all said and done the only way i could get display right was using proprietary but im not sure if this is ideal for GTX 765m SLi for being able to render properly
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> !optimus | Nubuntu_
[05:06] <Nubuntu_> yes, but how do i view whether im using bumblebee if it worked
[05:07] <Lrrr1> Nubuntu_, i dont follow
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> Nubuntu_: can you pastebin lshw -C video plz
[05:07] <Lrrr1> ah
[05:07] <Lrrr1> yea i see now
[05:08] <Lrrr1> beats me.. lol like i said i use vmware for ubuntu so it doesnt use my GPU
[05:08] <DrakkenWarr> Lrrr1, So you do not have Ubuntu installed natively?
[05:08] <Lrrr1> and the ones that dont run on vmware are all server installs which dont have a GUI, therefore I never have to worry about graphic drivers
[05:09] <Lrrr1> well i have a couple ubuntu servers installed natively
[05:09] <Lrrr1> but no ubuntu desktops
[05:09] <Lrrr1> i also have a couple vmware guests running server too but that's beside the point
[05:10] <Nubuntu_> http://postimg.org/image/r4frcuz6p/
[05:10] <DrakkenWarr> fair enough
[05:11] <Nubuntu_> posted screenshot, it shows both cards but not sure if ubuntu can use SLi? and if so which is the best driver/package to use for GTX 765m i wonder
[05:14] <Nubuntu_> anyone?
[05:15] <Genitrust> lotuspsychje, what's the ubuntu HD analyzer?
[05:15] <DrakkenWarr> Nubuntu_, I did not see the screen shot, but depending on your cards you either need the Nvidida settings manager for linux or the ATi suite
[05:15] <Nubuntu_> its at 23:10
[05:15] <DrakkenWarr> both are easy to get
[05:15] <Genitrust> lotuspsychje, just got your message... i quickly formatted the drive on a mac. the mac had no problem, so that got me to a good start i guess
[05:16] <Nubuntu_> http://postimg.org/image/r4frcuz6p/
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> Genitrust: you can test your hd from ubuntu
[05:16] <Genitrust> lotuspsychje, how? i'm very interested
[05:16] <Genitrust> and thank you
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> Genitrust: the hd icon from start
[05:16] <BlackWeb> Does anyone use 14.04 64bit & is it GIVING them BUGS from H3llllllll
[05:16] <Nubuntu_> umm, would it really be ATi for an Nvidia card?
[05:16] <BlackWeb> seems like left and right bug here bug there bug every where
[05:16] <Terrance> umm no Nubuntu_
[05:17] <BlackWeb> VLC freezes every 2 minutes
[05:17] <Genitrust> lotuspsychje, what do you mena "from start"?
[05:17] <BlackWeb> is it the 64 vbit version or what
[05:17] <Beldar> BlackWeb, Calm down and address each issue for help
[05:17] <Terrance> BlackWeb: got anything in cron about that time?
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> Genitrust: start button(left corner) search the hd icon
[05:17] <Genitrust> ooooh , i pressed super and then typed in "hd"
[05:18] <Genitrust> lotuspsychje, thanks, this looks like a great tool!! :)
[05:18] <Nubuntu_> it would be ideal to use the driver/package which can let Ubuntu use SLi if possible, I am still trying to understand if this is what Bumblebee does?
[05:18] <McMido> i found an themes that i want to install but in the instructions it says install 'myunity" wich i cant find
[05:19] <McMido> even apt-get install myunity not working
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> !themes | McMido
[05:19] <Genitrust> lotuspsychje, btw, i just copied about 132.7MB to the disk pretty quickly ... and now the drive has slowed down a lot.... 10 MB/sec...
[05:19] <Terrance> sounds like you need to get fsck'ed
[05:19] <McMido> well am using http://www.ubuntuthemes.org
[05:19] <Nubuntu_> well, in reality i just need to know if the proprietary driver it is using now is good enough or if there is a better one...anyone?
[05:20] <Terrance> Genitrust: have you tried fsck?
[05:21] <Genitrust> Terrance, yes, it was the most horrible experience ever. especially since there was no option to just do "fix all" lol
[05:21] <Genitrust> Terrance, so i just reformatted using my mac laptop
[05:21] <Nubuntu_> ok, please if anyone can help with graphics card/ubuntu let me know
[05:21] <Genitrust> it appears that the hard drive will copy for about 10 seconds, and then stall...
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> Genitrust: try a tail -f /var/log/syslog and plug in/out your stick a few times, see what it says
[05:21] <Genitrust> nevermind, it goes for 3 seconds, then stalls for 20 -.-
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> Genitrust: or dmesg errors
[05:22] <Genitrust> lotuspsychje, no dmesg errors yet (finally)
[05:22] <Beldar> McMido, Give us a ink.
[05:22] <Genitrust> i'm tailing right now. thanks for reminding me of that
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> !info colortail | Genitrust even more handy :p
[05:23] <Beldar>  McMido, Give us a link, to the theme.
[05:23] <Genitrust> hmmm, colortail...
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> Genitrust: very nice for the syslogs syntax highlight :p
[05:23] <Genitrust> welp, looks like the file will work at about 6.7 MB/s
[05:23] <McMido> http://www.ubuntuthemes.org/viva-3-12/
[05:24] <McMido> Beldar, so ??
[05:24] <Beldar> !myunity
[05:25] <Terrance> yeah yeah yeah the unused port
[05:25] <Beldar> McMido, you only give me a minute?
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> Beldar: lol
[05:25] <McMido> Beldar, ok tyt :D
[05:25] <Nubuntu_> please, any help with understanding Ubuntu video drivers?
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> Nubuntu_: if you followed the bumblebee way, your good to go
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> Nubuntu_: your driver= shows nvidia legacy, so i think your good to go
[05:26] <Nubuntu_> lotuspsychje,
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> Nubuntu_: doublecheck your additional drivers section (on software sources last tab)
[05:27] <Nubuntu_> lotuspsychje,  i dont know if it worked though, the drivers section i picked the 331.38 proprietary driver
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> Nubuntu_: how did you install those?
[05:27] <Nubuntu_> i picked from additional drivers
[05:27] <Beldar> McMido, It is not in trusty Just because a website says to do something does not mean is correct
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> Nubuntu_: it showed up after install?
[05:28] <Terrance> !works for me
[05:28] <McMido> Beldar, oh
[05:28] <Beldar> !find myunity
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> Nubuntu_: or did you install those manually from a site?
[05:28] <Terrance> !myunity
[05:28] <McMido> so its !myunity ?
[05:28] <Terrance> dont work like that either
[05:29] <Nubuntu_> lotuspsychje, i guess? I did follow the prompts but display was jacked until i went to additional drivers and selected that instead of x.org. Its the same one that is used from the LiveUSB. I had to enable the Wireless card there too
[05:29] <Genitrust> lotuspsychje, is there a way to "tail" dmesg?
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> Genitrust: think works the same, try tail -f /var/log/dmesg
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> !info myunity precise | Beldar seems like they removed
[05:30] <Genitrust> lotuspsychje, oh wow ty.
[05:30] <Beldar> yep
[05:30] <Genitrust> i didn't realize dmesg was in /var/log -.- seems kind of obvious now
[05:31] <McMido> Beldar, so what now :D
[05:31] <Genitrust> is there any reason that dmesg and /var/log/dmesg would be different?
[05:31] <Nubuntu_> lotuspsychje, i just think its wierd if this is same drivers used on LiveUSB, and i really only need to know if they will work with everything, version is 331.38 but whether i need something special to run SLi?
[05:31] <Genitrust> /var/log/dmesg only has 1200 lines
[05:31] <Genitrust> dmesg (the command) has... a lot more
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> Nubuntu_: sli means you got 2 cards right, so if you loaded best graphics driver, should work good then
[05:32] <Beldar> McMido, What ubuntu  release are you using
[05:32] <McMido> Beldar, 14.4
[05:32] <McMido> i guess
[05:32] <McMido> its the latest
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> !dmesg | Genitrust
[05:33] <Nubuntu_> lotuspsychje, except i dont know if i loaded best, I just went to additional drivers to pick one that worked and changed resolution from being pixelated/zoomed. I dont know if Linux/Ubuntu recognizes SLi from fresh install though...in reality i dont know if i need extra software to take advantage of it
[05:34] <Beldar> McMido, We don't support except what is in the ubuntu repos, myunity is not there, if the problem was just the theme not a missing package and an easy fix you might get some help.
[05:35] <Beldar> McMido, Many themes out there so you might just look around.
[05:35] <McMido> Beldar, aight thanks anyway :)
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> Nubuntu_: does your card have good performance?
[05:39] <DanaG> !find sgpio
[05:40] <infinmed> hihihihi
[05:40] <loa> hello, how i can fast destroy file systems on drive? there are bad sectors, before sending back to disributor i want to do little clean up)
[05:41] <infinmed> hi
[05:41] <loa> i tried to do badblocks checking on it with destructive mode
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> loa: look up to zero the drive
[05:41] <loa> but looks like it took ages...
[05:41] <Nubuntu_> lotuspsychje, if youre asking capability, yes its high end for laptops, in regards to performance yield i dont know. It shows up in system settings>details but only one card is listed there, im trying to read up on how to make sure my dedicated graphics work and if possible both cards working in SLi as intended (as it does in windows)
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> Nubuntu_: your lshw -C video showed 2 cards mate
[05:43] <loa> lotuspsychje, maybe i can just destroy inode information?
[05:43] <loa> will it be enougth?
[05:44] <Nubuntu_> lotuspsychje, yes i know thats good, i hope that means they are both being used, not just detected. In windows both cards will show up but you have to enable SLi to have both of them being used in SLi mode instead of just one. Thats exactly what I am trying to determine here...
[05:49] <Nubuntu_> hmm
[05:49] <Loshki> loa: enough for what? Casual inspection, sure. FBI probe. Probably not...
[05:49] <loa> Loshki, casual inspection.
[05:50] <Loshki> loa: then what lotuspsychje said: Zero the drive.
[05:50] <piliman974> Hi
[05:52] <Loshki> loa: people seem to like DBAN if you need a recc...
[05:52] <loa> Loshki, DBAN?
[05:52] <loa> lol
[05:53] <loa> i forgot that ubuntu was on private partition
[05:53] <loa> looks like problem solved.
[05:53] <Loshki> loa: Ah, glad to be of no help at all...
[05:55] <magicflakes> Hi I just have a quick question about ssh keys. I have a machine at work and I like to access it at home. I can just add my home id_rsa.pub to work machine ~/.ssh/authorized_key right?
[06:00] <BlackWeb> is Ubuntu 14.04 Stable????
[06:01] <BlackWeb> Like I thought
[06:06] <panard> hello all
[06:10] <ripthejacker> Good morning everyone.
[06:11] <gshmu> help, https://dpaste.de/mPH9   shell $ and ''  like '$png'
[06:12] <ripthejacker> pppoe-connect is a program I need to run to connect to the internet. Running this program requires root permission. How can I let a normal user without using sudo to start this program?
[06:13] <gshmu> curl -F 'clbin=@$png' https://clbin.com         it didn't work  $png=Screenshot from 2014-06-12 14:01:25.png
[06:32] <dididodo> histo, how can i control fan speed? my new lenovo b590 never turns on the fan, even at temp above 60°C.
[06:33] <dididodo> hi... , how can i control fan speed? my new lenovo b590 never turns on the fan, even at temp above 60°C.
[06:33] <Beldar> !lm-sensors | dididodo
[06:34] <dididodo> Beldar, thanks, but that's only for monitoring, right. it will not affect fan activity by itself, will it?
[06:36] <dididodo> I'm running psensor and the gnome indicator applet. does lm-sensors make a difference?
[06:37] <loa> i installed psensor on ubuntu 14.04, earlier i have hdd temp in it, but now i can't found it... hddtemp in console working well.
[06:37] <loa> what i can check?
[06:37] <loa> dididodo, then you have lm-sensors installed.
[06:37] <dididodo> ok
[06:37] <dididodo> still, thats only a monitor, nothing more, nothing less
[06:38] <loa> diddledan, it show fan speed as i remeber
[06:38] <Beldar> dididodo, read the link geez
[06:38] <loa> yes it is.
[06:39] <loa> maybe there is something lenovo specific
[06:39] <dididodo> beldar, ok
[06:41] <dididodo> on my last lenovo t61 the fan was running constanty at max speed, now it is not running at all at high temp.  i'm sick of this
[06:41] <loa> maybe it is just broken?
[06:41] <dididodo> yeshuah, maybe
[06:41] <dididodo> yes ... maybe
[06:46] <andrews> hi. does anybody know why telnet -fax command doesn't work ?
[06:46] <Terrance> hello boys and girls, can anyone tell me how a hacker could slip a crontab into cron that repeatedly attempts to hack root?
[06:47] <Terrance> I'll trade you andrews, I'll google yours if you google mine
[06:47] <spin_> anyone know how to get ubuntu to stop installing xbmc debian?
[06:48] <spin_> anyone know how to get ubuntu to stop installing xbmc debian?
[06:48] <andrews> I just google it but I haven't found
[06:48] <Xethron> Is it possible to output a sh command in the channel with xchat?
[06:48] <Xethron> or current window for that matter
[06:49] <spin_> google has not helped me.. its sort of a ubuntu installed ontop of debian problem
[06:49] <chrirc> hello...i want to buy a desktop microphone that plugs into the built in which will work on ubuntu..is specific driver needed or all will work?
[06:49] <spin_> buy a generic microphone from dollarama.. problem solved
[06:50] <Xethron> I'm helping a friend and he is using Ubuntu, and instead of asking him to paste screenshots all the time, I remembered xchat having a feature like that
[06:50] <Terrance> andrews: -fax does not seem to be a valid switch
[06:50] <Terrance> telnet [-8EFKLacdfrx] [-X authtype] [-b hostalias] [-e escapechar]
[06:50] <Terrance> 	    [-k realm] [-l user] [-n tracefile] [host [port]]
[06:50] <spin_> ctrl+v?
[06:50] <Terrance> perhaps -Fax might work
[06:51] <andrews> Terrance see this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3O4iPW8QRo
[06:51] <chrirc> so all desktop microphones that plug into sound card work on ubuntu without any drivers?
[06:51] <Terrance> I think you missed a capital F there
[06:51] <Terrance> chirc: if the sound card drivers work, I'd say yes
[06:51] <spin_> as long as its not a driver dependant microphone it will work
[06:52] <spin_> anything with a simple headphone jack interface and no special controls
[06:52] <andrews> No, I didn''t. See that video at min 14:30
[06:52] <Terrance> IF the souncard drivers work, AND it is using a 3.5mm jack I'd say yes
[06:53] <spin_> pulseaudio is the easiest way to go.. but don't expect it to run inside of wine properly
[06:53] <spin_> without modifying wineconfig to see it
[06:53] <decci> I have setup devstack on Ubuntu. While creating the new instance and spawning I am getting this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/7632298
[06:54] <Terrance> andrews: ok I'm no help
[06:55] <awpti> decci, this isn't devstack support.
[06:55] <spin_> wouldnt know where to start with devstack
[06:55] <spin_> any ideas where to find help for xbmc?
[06:56] <Ben64> !alis | spin_
[06:56] <Terrance> I just had a wonderful conversation with the FBI about a current hack on my business systems
[06:56] <awpti> Terrance, d`oh.
[06:56] <Terrance> no this was purely cover my arse
[06:56] <spin_> lol.. secure the shit out of it
[06:57] <Terrance> I just unplugged it
[06:57] <Ben64> watch the language in this channel, and please keep on topic
[06:57] <Terrance> tomorrow I got a time and a phone number...with Extension to call and talk to an agent
[06:58] <Terrance> they slipped in a cron job, without breaking ssh. looks like the vixie exploit but we'll find out more tomorrow
[06:59] <awpti> Company I work for had the DoD up their tail due to chinese hackers having gained entry .. and having apparently been in the system for some years (lots of military contracts).
[07:00] <chrirc> thanks for your help ...see u...bye
[07:00] <Terrance> funny thing is, the cron job kept bashing the 'root' user. which we all know in ubuntu is impossible
[07:00] <Terrance> I'm just giving you guys a heads up
[07:01] <Terrance> I geolocated them to china and viet nam
[07:01] <Ben64> Terrance: really not on topic here
[07:01] <awpti> No one else is talking.
[07:01] <Terrance> umm. its Ubuntu, I got hacked, and its Ubuntu, sooooo how is it not on topic?
[07:02] <Terrance> looks like #ubuntu to me
[07:02] <Ben64> just because nobody is talking doesn't make the rules void, #ubuntu is for support
[07:02] <Terrance> well, how do I stop cron from getting slipped a mickey, ON UBUNTU?
[07:03] <Ben64> well the exploit you mentioned was relevant about 15 years ago
[07:03] <Terrance> this is a purely ubuntu question because other distro's have cron.deny ubuntu does not
[07:04] <bazhang> !find cron.deny
[07:04] <Terrance> look ben I have been completely professional with my questions, and they are ubuntu specific. if they don't belong here, then where do you suppose
[07:05] <Terrance> incron...not installed with stock ubuntu
[07:05] <spin_> what files should i purge to get rid of debian sources?
[07:05] <Terrance> so you sir are off topic
[07:05] <bazhang> so install it
[07:06] <spin_> whoah this is stock ubuntu server?
[07:06] <Terrance> no, stock ubuntu desktop 12.04
[07:06] <Ben64> if you want a cron.deny, then make one
[07:06] <Terrance> doesnt work ben
[07:06] <bazhang> or install incron
[07:06] <Ben64> man crontab
[07:07] <loa> Terrance, reinstall.\
[07:07] <Ben64> "[if] the  /etc/cron.deny  file  does exist,  then you must not be listed in the /etc/cron.deny file in order to use this command."
[07:07] <Terrance> already read that twice, if you create a cron.deny file it doesnt do anything, does not recognize it
[07:07] <loa> there can be rootkits.
[07:08] <spin_> server name Currently supported: 10.04 LTS (server) 12.04 LTS,  13.10, and 14.04 LTS
[07:08] <Terrance> guys, this is why linux has so many wonderful windows converts, cause you guys are SOO helpful
[07:08] <spin_> therefore this should not be limited to stock ubuntu
[07:08] <spin_> of any version
[07:09] <Ben64> spin_: it isn't, Terrance is just mad because i called him out for being off topic
[07:09] <spin_> ah
[07:09] <Terrance> I removed the machine in question and set up another with JUST ssh and nothing else
[07:09] <Terrance> no, I just wonder why a purely ubuntu problem would be off topic
[07:09] <Ben64> spin_: support however is limited to packages that are in the ubuntu repositories, no PPAs, manually installed software, etc
[07:10] <Terrance> if it was fedora, red hat, or any other distro, cron.deny would exist
[07:10] <spin_> ic.. okay so i wont be finding a solution to my problem here
[07:11] <spin_> seeing as i am running a purely customized multimedia version of xfce4 ubuntu
[07:11] <Terrance> probably not, most likely if its an ubuntu problem, its off topic
[07:11] <Ben64> Terrance: again, if you want a cron.deny, create it
[07:11] <anon^_^> hi, is anyone familiar with adding mime types to a system
[07:11] <spin_> mostly nano configured
[07:11] <anon^_^> followed this guide, but neither option is working
[07:11] <anon^_^> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingMimeTypes
[07:12] <Terrance> it DOES NOT WORK. I created a cron.deny in the right place with the right chmod and chown. it flat does not  recognize it
[07:12] <Ben64> Terrance: i just did it and it works fine, maybe you need to check again
[07:13] <spin_> Terrance: what is the output of running the sh of the program in question in terminal
[07:13] <spin_> Terrance: i find this is the only way to helpfully debug linux programs
[07:13] <bazhang> anon^_^, which mime types are you having an issue with
[07:13] <anon^_^> bazhang, trying to add a mime type for sfv
[07:14] <bazhang> anon^_^, what is sfv
[07:14] <Ben64> anon^_^: already exists (at least on my system) text/x-sfv					sfv
[07:14] <spin_> good question i dont have sfv in my mime types
[07:14] <anon^_^> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sfv
[07:14] <anon^_^> Ben64, it exists but the type is recognized as a text file
[07:15] <anon^_^> not as an SFV file type
[07:15] <Ben64> anon^_^: recognized where, how
[07:15] <spin_> nano <filename>.sfv ?
[07:15] <anon^_^> thus if you associate .sfv files with a specific program
[07:15] <anon^_^> then all text files are opened by that program
[07:16] <anon^_^> Ben64, created a new text file
[07:16] <spin_> rightclick sfv file / open with / <text editor of choice>
[07:16] <anon^_^> open it, add some text
[07:16] <anon^_^> save the file as test.sfv
[07:17] <anon^_^> now if you associate that sfv file with a program, all text files are associated with the program
[07:17] <Ben64> again, with what
[07:17] <anon^_^> that wouldn't happen if sfv was recognized as a unique file type
 anon^_^: already exists (at least on my system) text/x-sfv     sfv
[07:18] <anon^_^> ben64 where are you seeing that
[07:18] <anon^_^> ./etc/mime.types ?
[07:18] <Ben64> yep
[07:19] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Hello!
[07:19] <anon^_^> on my system it's under application/x-sfv
[07:19] <anon^_^> which is where it should be
[07:20] <Emmanuel_Chanel> I want the deb package of proftpd 1.3.5, the latest stable.
[07:20] <Emmanuel_Chanel> I have a problem with uploading large files on FTP. And looks the error was on proftpd. And it's fixed on the latest release.
[07:21] <Emmanuel_Chanel> http://askubuntu.com/questions/455058/proftpd-put-access-failed-552-791230988-no-space-left-on-device-test-bin
[07:21] <anon^_^> and i've also copied a sfv.xml to /usr/share/mime/packages, then sudo update-mime-database /usr/share/mime
[07:21] <anon^_^> Emmanuel_Chanel, typically sru don't happen unless it's related to security
[07:22] <anon^_^> that's one unfortunate thing about ubuntu repos
[07:22] <drags> where can I modify kernel params on 14.04? The /etc/default/grub file does not exist and replacing it with one from 13.10 does not appear to have any effect
[07:23] <Ben64> drags: if /etc/default/grub doesn't exist you've got a big problem
[07:24] <anton02> Ubuntu caused a girl to fail college. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qj8p-PEwbI
[07:25] <bazhang> anton02, dont paste that here
[07:25] <drags> Ben64: I have a working & rebootable system, menu.lst exists, `update-grub` still works
[07:25] <mandira> hello all
[07:25] <anton02> bazhang: does it hit a bit too closely to home
[07:26] <anon^_^> anton02, that girl doesn't seem to bright
[07:26] <spin_> found way to add text/xfv to mime.type but its not perfect
[07:26] <mandira> In our Environment I have setup One Ubuntu Repository server on which I have downloaded OpenStack havana packages from havana and havana-proposed repository.Repo server havana-proposed package location: /var/spool/apt-mirror/mirror/ubuntu-cloud.archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/pool/main/ (2013 packages).havana packages location: /var/spool/apt-mirror/mirror/archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/ (2012 packages).
[07:26] <Ben64> drags: menu.lst? what version of ubuntu?
[07:26] <mandira> I'm tring to install packages from Repo server to another Openstack ubuntu server but I'm not able to install havana-proposed packages. on ubuntu client in sources.list I have mentioned Repo server ip but every time old 2012 packages are getting installed.
[07:26] <delinquentme> How is it that chrome is only using 22% of my CPU , per $top .. but its still totally bogging my system down?
[07:26] <drags> Ben64: 14.04
[07:27] <spin_> su && echo "text/sfv            sfv" >> /etc/mime.types
[07:27] <spin_> also it doesnt seem to help
[07:27] <anon^_^> spin_, already tried that
[07:27] <harjot> hello
 hi
[07:28] <spin_> have to be in su otherwise it complains that /etc/mime.types doesnt accept text input
[07:28] <Ben64> drags: i don't know how you got grub1 onto 14.04 but i'm not going anywhere near that
[07:29] <spin_> sudo is not acceptable to echo into system files
[07:29] <Ben64> spin_: thats why you have to use "tee" if you want to do that
[07:29] <drags> Ben64: does your system not have a /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[07:29] <Ben64> drags: nope, and no ubuntu system came with that for quite a while now
[07:29] <spin_> idk what tee is but i echo
 In our Environment I have setup One Ubuntu Repository server on which I have downloaded OpenStack havana packages from havana and havana-proposed repository.Repo server havana-proposed package location: /var/spool/apt-mirror/mirror/ubuntu-cloud.archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/pool/main/ (2013 packages).havana packages location: /var/spool/apt-mirror/mirror/archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/ (2012 packages).
[07:30] <bazhang> drags, what version of ubuntu is this?
I'm tring to install packages from Repo server to another Openstack ubuntu server but I'm not able to install havana-proposed packages. on ubuntu client in sources.list I have mentioned Repo server ip but every time old 2012 packages are getting installed.
[07:30] <Ben64> spin_: echo "blah" | sudo tee -a /tmp/file
any idea about this?
[07:30] <spin_> no idea
[07:30] <spin_> i manipulate at text level
[07:31] <Beldar> anton02, Got me on the deans list at my college.
[07:31] <bazhang> drags, please pastebin your sources.list to paste.ubuntu.com
[07:31] <drags> bazhang: 14.04, but I think I'm starting to realize.. it's a cloud provider image
[07:31] <spin_> slackware/redhat style
[07:31] <bazhang> drags, ok, that would be it then
[07:31] <spin_> never got over the user friendly interface
[07:31] <spin_> couldnt figure it out so i work at low level
[07:31] <anton02> Beldar: is that a good thing?
[07:31] <spin_> took years to figure out what the terms meant
[07:32] <Beldar> anton02, The deans list are you kidding?
[07:32] <anton02> Beldar: im from australia
[07:32] <Beldar> look it up
[07:33] <Beldar> "It's a good thing" Martha Stewart
[07:33] <fhenning09> Hey Guys I'm working on getting setup on what I need to install before I start on my NAS I'm aiming to use Ubuntu Server based on this guide:
[07:33] <fhenning09> http://goo.gl/6Sa4mc
[07:33] <spin_> so off topic any ideas how to reconfigure apt to use only sources.list?
[07:33] <anon^_^> Martha Stewart also thought insider trading was a good thing
[07:33] <anon^_^> just saying
[07:33] <anon^_^> :P
[07:33] <HankMccoy> if i'm trying to use unetbootin to make a portable Ubuntu OS on a flash drive it should be bigger than 4 gig right
[07:34] <HankMccoy> can't get it to work
[07:34] <fhenning09> My Question is I want a better looking WebUI than Webmin any good suggestions
[07:35] <bazhang> !ebox | fhenning09
[07:35] <bazhang> fhenning09, ubuntu/debain dont support webmin
[07:35] <madoor> !list
[07:35] <spin_> maybe so but it does support mysql and apache2
[07:36] <spin_> and mysql has built in webadmin however i cant remember where to find it
[07:37] <spin_> !alis >> xbmc
[07:37] <bazhang> spin_, /msg alis list *xmbc*   <<<<<-----
[07:38] <Ben64> !pm | mandira
[07:38] <enchilado> _17
[07:38] <enchilado> Gosh sorry
[07:38] <spin_> well that didnt help it just told me there are 60 channels matching xbmc
[07:39] <loa> what can i do if i don't like chromium shipped with ubuntu 14.04?
[07:39] <Ben64> spin_: if i had to guess, i'd say #xbmc-linux is the one you want
[07:39] <loa> can i install another version of it?
[07:39] <bazhang> spin_, and there are quite a few to join, such as #xbmc-linux , for example
[07:40] <Beldar> loa, chromium is not installed in any release
[07:40] <loa> Beldar, i meen in repos
[07:40] <Ben64> loa: you can use google chrome from the google PPA, or install chromium yourself, neither is supported in this channel, the latter probably isn't a great idea
[07:40] <spin_> actually chromium is in repos for ubuntu
[07:41] <spin_> add deb http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/ stable main to repos
[07:41] <spin_> apt-get install google-chrome-stable
[07:42] <ubuntubox> no need to add a repo yourself, installing chrome adds a repo automatically
[07:42] <spin_> maybe but ubuntu complains that its not safe and automatically fails
[07:42] <ubuntubox> I mean the chrome .deb file
[07:42] <spin_> as do i
[07:42] <spin_> which is why i install manually via apt-get add apt
[07:43] <spin_> obviously the syntax is wrong but my point stands
[07:43] <loa> there was option --class in 13.10 for chromium-browser
[07:43] <loa> now it dissapear...
[07:43] <loa> i hope in google version it persists.
[07:44] <spin_> ubuntu will never add google-chrome-stable to repos as it is not available in canonical
[07:44] <spin_> as it is not owned or created by cannonical
[07:44] <loa> i am not about it.
[07:44] <spin_> which is why i strip ubuntu of all canonnical shipped programs and install custom repos
[07:45] <spin_> unfortunately then i run into problems
[07:45] <loa> i hate when options which i use are dissapeared.
[07:46] <Ben64> loa: so what does --class do
[07:46] <spin_> i hate when huge corporations take over community maintained os's then refuse to let the public know about it
[07:46] <loa> Ben64, it set window class.
[07:47] <spin_> also ubuntu removed 90% of gpl licensing from changelogs which effectively makes it an illegal program
[07:47] <spin_> and i am surprised canonical has not been attempted to be sued by anyone other than NASA and FBI as of yet
[07:47] <ubuntubox_> spin_, are you referring MySQL?
[07:48] <koenmatthys> ola even
[07:48] <loa> who have ubuntu 13.10?
[07:48] <spin_> for webadmin yes i am referring to MySQL
[07:48] <loa> and useing chromium?
[07:48] <loa> using *
[07:48] <loa> or 12.04
[07:49] <koenmatthys> exit
[07:49] <spin_> i have ubuntu 14.04 which had to be massively modified in order to run anythin
[07:49] <spin_> anything
[07:49] <ubuntubox_> loa, why?
[07:49] <ubuntubox_> loa, btw Ubuntu 13.10 is notv supported anymore
[07:49] <ubuntubox_> *not
[07:49] <Ben64> spin_: you're going quite off topic, maybe bring that to #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[07:49] <spin_> my guess would be due to the fact that every ubuntu dist breaks dependencies to any older version
[07:49] <loa> ubuntubox_, can you show me chromium-browser --help ?
[07:50] <spin_> im just stating that as soon as someone try's to install a video driver they are instantly off topic or left with a broken system and zero ubuntu support
[07:50] <Ben64> spin_: that is not true
[07:50] <spin_> and this server is impossible to find a server to help
[07:50] <ubuntubox_> loa, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/chromium-browser.1.html
[07:51] <koenmatthys> join redhat-no
[07:51] <ubuntubox_> loa, sorry this one actually http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/saucy/man1/chromium-browser.1.html
[07:51] <spin_> my system broke with any nvidia driver unless i blacklisted all ubuntu drivers
[07:51] <spin_> so yes actually it is true
[07:51] <Ben64> spin_: ok? ranting is still off topic here though
[07:52] <spin_> what is on topic
[07:52] <Ben64> ubuntu support, same as always
[07:52] <spin_> i am asking for ubuntu support
[07:52] <spin_> i run ubuntu
[07:52] <Ben64> no you aren't. you're ranting.
[07:52] <spin_> care to elaborate
[07:52] <ws2k3> hello, i'm trying to install ubuntu but when i selected a mirror it shows an emty purple window and it hangs there
[07:52] <spin_> i have asked had no answers so i started ranting now i have attention
[07:53] <Ben64> it seems fairly likely you aren't even running ubuntu anymore
[07:53] <ubuntubox> spin_, what have you asked?
[07:53] <loa> ubuntubox, maybe you can help and with this... how i can get what version of chrome was in 13.10?
[07:53] <spin_> how do i return sources.list to stock and configure apt to run only from sources.list
[07:53] <Ben64> spin_: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[07:53] <tmick> quoexl,I am coming.still here
[07:54] <bazhang> pastebin them spin_
[07:54] <spin_> how do i pastebin?
[07:54] <ubuntubox> loa, join  #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:54] <spin_> again i run low-level through terminal and text
[07:55] <ramsub07> Hi guys. I want to update from 13.04 to 13.10 via the software updater available in the system, will there be any data loss ?
[07:55] <ws2k3> ramsub07 no
[07:56] <Ben64> spin_: cat /etc/apt/sources.list | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[07:56] <spin_> k here is my sources.list
[07:56] <spin_> http://pastebin.com/W4xUAEWh
[07:56] <ws2k3> hello, i'm trying to install ubuntu but when i selected a mirror it shows an emty purple window and it hangs there
[07:57] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Will this bug be fixed on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS? http://askubuntu.com/questions/455058/proftpd-put-access-failed-552-791230988-no-space-left-on-device-test-bin
[07:57] <spin_> im not worried about the list only the problem that apt keeps calling preferences.d and sources.d which is not ubuntu behaviour afaik
[07:58] <spin_> sorry apt.conf.d
[07:58] <spin_> if i remove those two folders apt breaks
[07:58] <aldoiljazi> I've changed my username and my Home folder name. Now Dropbox throws me an error "Couldn't start Dropbox because of permissions"
[07:58] <ws2k3> hello, i'm trying to install ubuntu but when i selected a mirror it shows an emty purple window and it hangs there
[07:59] <aldoiljazi> I completely removed Dropbox and reinstalled it. Same error. what to do? :/
[07:59] <spin_> can i remove folders then purge && install apt ? to return to regular apt behaviour?
[07:59] <Ben64> spin_: apt.conf.d is on normal ubuntu installs
[08:00] <ws2k3> hello, i'm trying to install ubuntu 12.04 but when i selected a mirror it shows an emty purple window and it hangs there
[08:00] <spin_> Ben64: okay so can i purge apt and reinstall to restore stock apt.conf.d and preferences.d?
[08:00] <Ben64> spin_: i would not recommend that
[08:00] <spin_> Ben64: okay thank you that is all i was asking
[08:01] <Emmanuel_Chanel> anon^_^?
[08:01] <Ben64> spin_: at this point it'd probably be best to reinstall, it doesn't even seem like you know what modifications you've done
[08:01] <helpinstalldepls> Hello. How can I remove GNOME for a better DE, such as Pantheon?
[08:01] <anon^_^> Emmanuel_Chanel, SRU == stable release update
[08:01] <spin_> Ben64: i would not even start with that unless you would like to lose a ubuntu user to redhat
[08:01] <Emmanuel_Chanel> ok...
[08:02] <Emmanuel_Chanel> thx.
[08:02] <anon^_^> typically SRU are not added to updates unless it's related to security
[08:02] <spin_> Ben64: i have lost almost all faith in ubuntu after 8.04
[08:02] <Ben64> spin_: use what you like, i really don't care. but if you're modifying your system to the extent where you don't know what has been done, that isn't a good sign
[08:02] <anon^_^> which basically means you'll have better luck getting an update from the developer
[08:02] <ws2k3> hello, i'm trying to install ubuntu 12.04 but when i selected a mirror it shows an emty purple window and it hangs there
[08:03] <anon^_^> or possiblly grabbing a package from debian's jessie or experimental repo
[08:03] <helpinstalldepls> Hello #UBUNTU. I need some assistance and I'd be very grateful if someone would assist me.
[08:03] <spin_> Ben64: i know what i have done.. i have installed ubuntu over debian with an upgrade cd which destroyed my debian distro and left me with an unusable system
[08:03] <helpinstalldepls> I'd like to get rid of the GNOME DE
[08:03] <anon^_^> just be careful though, sometimes you might have dependency issues pull a debian package
[08:03] <spin_> Ben64: i can return to Slackware 64 which will fix all my problems and remove the ned to run ubuntu at aal
[08:04] <Ben64> ws2k3: 12.04 is pretty old now, try 14.04. if you really need 12.04, then check the hash of the image and make sure it has been written correctly
[08:04] <helpinstalldepls> & perhaps change it to Pantheon (Elementary OS' DE)
[08:04] <helpinstalldepls> & perhaps change it to Pantheon (Elementary OS' DE)
[08:04] <spin_> Ben64: however ubuntu will make my shitlist, and i may start recommending other OS's to my clients when i repair their PC's
[08:04] <Ben64> spin_: yeah you should reinstall. installing ubuntu over debian isn't very wise
[08:04] <Guest99028> Hi.
[08:05] <helpinstalldepls> Hello everyone can I please be directed to the channel where I will receive some information on removing GNOME DE and installing another?
[08:05] <Ben64> spin_: watch the language, and still nobody cares if you use slackware, redhat or ubuntu. use what you like
[08:05] <spin_> Ben6: installing ubuntu over anything isn't very wise i see that in hindsite
[08:05] <helpinstalldepls> Hello everyone can I please be directed to the channel where I will receive some information on removing GNOME DE and installing another?
[08:05] <bcvery> !patience | helpinstalldepls
[08:05] <Guest99028> I am having problems with my memory stick. For some reason it shows up as read-only.
[08:06] <magicflakes> Hi I just have a quick question about ssh keys. I have a machine at work and I like to access it at home. I can just add my home id_rsa.pub to work machine ~/.ssh/authorized_key right?
[08:06] <Guest99028> ummm. guys?
[08:06] <spin_> Ben64: thank you for no help.. Slackware 64 it is.. reinstall is the solution.. linus torvalds would not be pleased to have you adopting his kernel sources
[08:06] <magicflakes> or maybe not?
[08:06] <Ben64> Guest99028: pastebin the output of "mount"
[08:06] <tykayn> hi people
[08:07] <anon^_^> Guest99028, it's possible the nand flash on the usb stick is failing
[08:07] <geirha> magicflakes: yes, you can use the ssh-copy-id command to add it
[08:07] <Ben64> spin_: you've done nothing but rant! i can't help rants
[08:07] <Guest99028> I am having problems with my memory stick. For some reason it shows up as read-only.
[08:07] <spin_> goodbye all hope u all luck as i have found done
[08:07] <spin_> none
[08:07] <tykayn> can i get rid of the popup about login keyring ?
[08:07] <magicflakes> thanks geirha
[08:07] <anon^_^> if the fs is mounted read-only there might be corruption
[08:07] <Guest99028> /dev/sda3 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[08:07] <Guest99028> proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[08:07] <Guest99028> sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[08:07] <Guest99028> none on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
[08:07] <Guest99028> none on /sys/kernel/debug type debugfs (rw)
[08:07] <Guest99028> none on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw)
[08:07] <unopaste> Guest99028 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[08:07] <Ben64> Guest99028: pastebin.... dude... pastebin.
[08:08] <helpinstalldepls> @Ben instead of dealing with someone so disrespectful why don't you give me a hand with removing the GNOME DESKTOP ENVIRONMENT AND REPLACING IT WITH ANOTHER
[08:08] <Ben64> helpinstalldepls: stop yelling and be patient?
[08:08] <tykayn> wah
[08:08] <helpinstalldepls> @Ben64 instead of dealing with someone so disrespectful why don't you give me a hand with removing the GNOME DESKTOP ENVIRONMENT AND REPLACING IT WITH ANOTHER
[08:08] <Kaliiiixx> Hi
[08:08] <Kaliiiixx> I have a tiny problem
[08:09] <Guest63505> Hi, I am using ubuntu 14.04 x64 on hp pavillion with 4GB memory. However, I could not use print screen. I have all codecs installed.
[08:09] <Guest99028> Ben64: Sorry. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7632543/
[08:09] <tykayn> codecs for print screen ?
[08:09] <Guest63505> *cannot
[08:10] <tykayn> you should maintain the super key and look if the print screen shortcut is available
[08:10] <Kaliiiixx> Although I have configured the Horizontal synchronisation in 10-monitor.conf, horizontal lines stay on the monitor :(
[08:10] <Ben64> Guest99028: yep that is definitely mounted read only. is the filesystem damaged? is there a hardware write switch?
[08:10] <helpinstalldepls> Thanks for the help guys.
[08:10] <helpinstalldepls> I appreciate it.
[08:11] <Guest63505> tykayn, sure I'll try
[08:11] <Guest99028> Ben64: There is a switch(without a label). I have tried it in either position. Doesn't work :/. Also this is a recurring problem with other memory sticks too.
[08:11] <tykayn> helpinstalldepls: i never did that, but environnement setup will make you to your solution
[08:11] <iptable> helpinstalldepls, apt-get purge gnome-desktop. apt-get install something-other
[08:11] <Guest99028> Ben64: USBs and memory cards.
[08:11] <iptable> helpinstalldepls, or use your own packaging system and install the one you want
[08:12] <Guest99028> Ben64: Once in a while some card works. Filesystem problem?
[08:12] <Ben64> Guest99028: are they sd cards?
[08:12] <tykayn> http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/environnements maybe this will be redirected in english
[08:12] <Guest99028> Ben64: The one I am using now, yes. MicroSD with adapter.
[08:13] <tykayn> Ben64: does your memory stick works in other computer ?
[08:13] <iptable> helpinstalldepls, if not comfortable, you are better off installing a distro with the one you want, OR install a GUI-less version and install fresh GUI from scratch.
[08:13] <Guest63505> tykayn, all shortcut exists. However, it doesn't work.
[08:13] <Ben64> Guest99028: make sure the switch is towards the contacts on the sd card, that enables writing
[08:13] <Guest63505> tykayn, its not a hardware problem. I tested keyboard.
[08:13] <iptable> Guest99028 - memory sticks as in USB ones or SD cards?
[08:14] <Ben64> Guest99028: and try this... "sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/sdb /media/FD71-883A"
[08:14] <tykayn> well i don't know
[08:14] <iptable> Guest99028 - also note that to change the switch between positions (ro/rw), it needs to be REMOVED from the PC first. change and insert. maybe switch is broken?
[08:14] <helpinstalldepls> @iptable there doesn't seem to be much documentation for the pantheon desktop environment
[08:14] <Guest63505> tykayn, ok
[08:15] <iptable> helpinstalldepls, then choose one that has got documentation for it. documentation level reflects required knowledge to install and use successfully.
[08:15] <iptable> helpinstalldepls, most people here will go with something mainstream. at least something in their repositories - as they are sane
[08:15] <helpinstalldepls> @iptable do you know pantheon de?
[08:16] <helpinstalldepls> I'm a web developer and I prefer the minimalistic approach as compared the bulkyness of GNOME
[08:16] <iptable> helpinstalldepls, no, and it's not in debian/ubuntu repos and therefore I would avoid it.
[08:16] <iptable> helpinstalldepls, there are minimalistic env in repos, you don't need to compile your own. BTW, if you ARE a dev, you will know how to compile it, surely...
[08:16] <Guest99028> Ben64: The switch is on the contacts side. Still doesn't work. output: mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[08:16] <tykayn> anyone about a seahorse issue ?
[08:17] <helpinstalldepls> @iptable thanks mate there's not much documentation on such a beautiful de
[08:17] <helpinstalldepls> @iptable its such a shame
[08:17] <Ben64> Guest99028: not for the command i gave you
[08:17] <tykayn> Guest63505: check the file persmissions with "ls -l /path/to/memorystick"
[08:17] <helpinstalldepls> @iptable I tried adding their ppa and it seemed to clash with gnome
[08:17] <iptable> helpinstalldepls, it's not in any repos and there isn't much documentation, seems to be there must be a problem with it if it's avoided so much.
[08:17] <Guest63505> tykayn, http://askubuntu.com/questions/459157/cant-take-screenshot-with-14-04
[08:17] <Guest63505> tykayn, its a problem with hp laptops.
[08:17] <Guest99028> Ben64: mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[08:17] <helpinstalldepls> @iptable it's made by elementaryos lad it's gorgeos de
[08:17] <iptable> helpinstalldepls, 1. install ubuntu-server/debian whizzy minimal, 2. install that ppa and DE
[08:18] <BaRb0S> Software manager always lost connection after several time and not responding. How i can find out why it is happened and fix it?
[08:18] <iptable> helpinstalldepls, just because it looks nice doesn't mean it is good, but hey, what do I know.
[08:18] <Guest99028> Ben64: your command all right.
[08:18] <tykayn> oh, ubuntu 14
[08:18] <iptable> helpinstalldepls, typically a dev wouldn't lookk at "gorgeous"
[08:18] <Ben64> Guest99028: nope, check again
[08:18] <helpinstalldepls> @iptable it's gorgeous and allows you to utilize a lot of the space on your monitor
[08:19] <Guest99028> Ben64: Did try it. And I took the card out and in again.
[08:19] <helpinstalldepls> @iptable I develop on a windows machine and I have not much knowledge of credible linux sources
[08:19] <Ben64> Guest99028: then make sure its still mounted where it was
[08:19] <iptable> ah right, and others steal the space on my monitor... anyways, I told you how to do it.
[08:19] <helpinstalldepls> @iptable hence why I come here to clash with the titans
[08:19] <helpinstalldepls> @iptable take a look at elementary os the de is made in python just for the OS
[08:20] <Ben64> helpinstalldepls: then use elementaryos?
[08:20] <iptable> helpinstalldepls, So not a linux dev, and you prefer "minimalistic" .... how about you use something default, e.g. Unity/Cinnamon/Mate/Gnome/KDE first and learn linux BEFORE trying a DE that isn't even compatible with others?
[08:20] <Guest63505> ubuntu 14.04 doesn't work with open source graphics drivers, only with fglrx. Earlier versions worked fine. Am I missing something?
[08:20] <tykayn> that is weird
[08:20] <helpinstalldepls> @ben64 I think I just might.
[08:20] <iptable> helpinstalldepls, elementary IS in the repos and works great. is even compatible with other DE - as it should be
[08:21] <helpinstalldepls> @iptable thanks mate will figure it out
[08:21] <iptable> helpinstalldepls, that's what defines a better DE than the previous one (which obviously seems rather broken if it can't work alongside gnome)
[08:21] <Guest99028> Ben64: http://imgur.com/gn4GR7j
[08:21] <helpinstalldepls> @iptable I don't think de's are ment to work along side each other :p
[08:21] <Guest63505> helpinstalldepls, use xfce. Won't regret.
[08:21] <iptable> helpinstalldepls, wrong
[08:22] <iptable> helpinstalldepls, I got KDE, Gnome3, Cinnamon, Unity and Mate and they all happily coexist
[08:22] <helpinstalldepls> @iptable that sounds like a shit load of memeory usage
[08:22] <helpinstalldepls> @iptable for absolutely no reason :p
[08:22] <iptable> helpinstalldepls, I choose which one I want at login. I know for a fact that elementary works well as well with them. Your gorgeous/pantheon is the first I hear of a DE that doesn't work with others.
[08:22] <Guest99028> Ben64: Screenshot- http://imgur.com/gn4GR7j
[08:23] <helpinstalldepls> @iptable oh you mean switching des at login
[08:23] <helpinstalldepls> @iptable that's totally different than what you worded
[08:23] <helpinstalldepls> @iptable :P
[08:23] <iptable> helpinstalldepls, are you sure you are a dev? memory is not used unless you actually login to that DE. How would a DE that's not logged into use memory? HDD, yes, not RAM. HDD usage I don't care about. 1TB drives are cheap
[08:23] <Ben64> Guest99028: dunno what to tell you http://pastebin.com/7YgiBf0G
[08:23] <helpinstalldepls> @iptable Yeah I am actually but I'm a .NET baby.
[08:24] <anon^_^> Ben64, sounds like the nand flash might be failing
[08:24] <iptable> helpinstalldepls, yeah, that's how it works. you login to a particuloar DE. No DE is supposed to break your current one...
[08:24] <helpinstalldepls> @iptable and what I thought you meant was you run all of these DE at once.
[08:24] <tykayn> oui donc personne pour seahorse ?
[08:24] <helpinstalldepls> @iptable figured you were on Arch Linux or something.
[08:24] <iptable> helpinstalldepls, you can as well, you can run them all at once quite successfully, each on it's own X server session.
[08:24] <Guest99028> anon^_^: anything I can do?
[08:24] <tykayn> seahorse et son login keyring que je ne peux pas déverouiller car je n'ai pas changé de mot de passe
[08:24] <iptable> helpinstalldepls, you can also have multiple users logged in to different DE sessions on same machine at the smae time
[08:24] <helpinstalldepls> @iptable hey hey btw try to be so hostile with strangers true a computer monitor btw :P
[08:25] <iptable> .NET ...
[08:25] <anon^_^> if the usb stick is going bad?  backup all your data ASAP
[08:25] <helpinstalldepls> @iptable it only affects your figures :p
[08:25] <anon^_^> then buy a new usb stick, new OS install
[08:25] <Guest99028> anon^_^: USB's not going bad.
[08:25] <helpinstalldepls> fingures
[08:25] <iptable> helpinstalldepls, I'm not hostile. I'm stating obvious.
[08:25] <helpinstalldepls> fingers
[08:25] <anon^_^> Guest99028, i had a san disk usb stick go bad, similar conditions
[08:26] <iptable> helpinstalldepls, 1. learn linux basics, 2. start fiddling with the unrelying workings of it. that's the normal way.
[08:26] <Guest99028> It happens with every sd casrd :/
[08:26] <Ben64> Guest99028: maybe bad adapter?
[08:26] <anon^_^> files would go corrupt, couldn't save, then fs would go read only
[08:26] <Guest99028> Ben64: changed that too.
[08:26] <helpinstalldepls> @iptable I know some basic stuff. I have the entire debian docummentation printed out.
[08:26] <iptable> anon^_^, have you noticed that SD cards last much longer though than USB sticks which break after a few months normally? it's really annoying. all san disk.
[08:27] <tykayn> oh sorry
[08:27] <helpinstalldepls> @iptable I just stated my question asa general as possible for everyone to understand
[08:27] <iptable> helpinstalldepls, :/ printing documentation is NOT knowing stuff. Learn it. there are some good tutorials you can follow.
[08:27] <anon^_^> you can wipe the partition, start fresh, but if the nand is going bad, your fs will go read only again very soon
[08:27] <anon^_^> iptable, yeah
[08:27] <tykayn> iptable: didnt saw that with my san disks
[08:27] <iptable> helpinstalldepls, well, the answer is, it seems broken, try elementary or another DE
[08:27] <tykayn> of course if you tear it up each time you remove them they wont live forever
[08:28] <helpinstalldepls> @iptable I'm learning lad :D
[08:28] <helpinstalldepls> @iptable I have enough knowledge to configure arch linux :D
[08:28] <iptable> helpinstalldepls, ok, then install that distro from ppa OR compile it, really.
[08:29] <helpinstalldepls> @iptable I just couldn't find the official docs for the DE and decided to ask here.
[08:29] <iptable> there are none if there are none on their website, sorry
[08:29] <helpinstalldepls> @iptable also all of the Ubuntu Answers are from 2011
[08:29] <iptable> so no one uses that DE for the last 3 years? go figure
[08:30] <tykayn> helpinstalldepls: i also like to live dangerously
[08:30] <helpinstalldepls> @iptable which astonished me because I had no idea EOS ahs been out for that long lol
[08:30] <iptable> helpinstalldepls, elementary has been out for AGES. it's is not new.
[08:30] <Guest99028> anon^_^: Its not the sd card. This same crap happens every time I plug in any memory stick. I usually have to go to windows, transfer it there. switch to linux and get it in there. Annoying.
[08:31] <helpinstalldepls> @iptable which distro would you recommend?
[08:31] <Guest99028> anon^_^: I am preparing to format the windows partition. need this sorted out for that.
[08:33] <iptable> helpinstalldepls, ubuntu-server and a DE of choice on top
[08:33] <iptable> helpinstalldepls, ubuntu-server is like ubuntu-desktop but without all the desktop stuff installed on top
[08:34] <helpinstalldepls> @iptable that's exactly what I need.. I hate bulk!
[08:34] <Ben64> or install xubuntu and get a lightweight DE out of the box
[08:34] <cfhowlett> or lubuntu
[08:34] <Ben64> indeed
[08:35] <iptable> helpinstalldepls, aptitude search -- "-desktop" <= that will tell you what desktop full configurations are available withotu having to installa nd configure from scratch on your own
[08:35] <iptable> helpinstalldepls, once you install ubuntu-server, you can apt-get install lubuntu-desktop, or ubuntu-desktop, or xubuntu-desktop etc. or youcould just download lubuntu ISO as an example.
[08:36] <BaRb0S> iptable:  Software manager always lost connection after several time and not responding. How i can find out why it is happened and fix it?
[08:36] <iptable> helpinstalldepls, without bulk, you will be unable to use the machine as requires. bulk contains sound control applets, fonts that don't hurt your eyes, nice themes and icons, codecs, etc. Bulk is good.
[08:36] <iptable> BaRb0S, lost connection? please expand. Software manager or your machine lost connection? how stable is your internet? wifi or cable?
[08:37] <Guest99028> :(
[08:38] <iptable> Guest99028, driver issue with USB control? does lsusb discover the stick properly? did you compile your own kernel or do any other OS modifications?
[08:38] <helpinstalldepls> @iptable aside from those, I certainly do not consider that as bulk hehe
[08:39] <iptable> helpinstalldepls, they are bulk. your typical DE-only install will install the actual DE only. no themese, codecs, libreoffice, pdf reader, icons etc. all these are considered bulk ... and really needed for 99% of users.
[08:39] <BaRb0S> iptable: software manager. Machine have internet. Mb software manager use another DHCP server address rather then in LAN config?
[08:39] <iptable> helpinstalldepls, hence install lubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop, other-desktop full env to make it useful. the DE itself will be ugly and unusable until you spend hours getting everything installed and configured yourself (if you want to)
[08:40] <helpinstalldepls> @iptable Honestly I like the direction you're pointing me to.
[08:41] <iptable> BaRb0S, what? software manager doesn't use DHCP, it uses IP and TCP for communications. DHCP is what your network does for you. Wifi? cable? proxy?
[08:42] <helpinstalldepls> @iptable https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pantheon
[08:42] <iptable>  /fridge/breakfast --option full-english --to /table/plate
[08:42] <ikonia> ughhh elementory OS
[08:42] <ikonia> elementary even
[08:42] <iptable> ikonia, yar.
[08:43] <BaRb0S> iptable: why what? mb it use it. Because in my network there are several DHCP servers(IP-TV serviceces etc.). Lan connection. I have to restart software manager every 3-4 apps i have installed after.
[08:43] <iptable> there is no telling some people. they like the screenshots and get stubborn they want it.
[08:43] <iptable> BaRb0S, software manager doesn't use DHCP server. Your network stack does to give you an IP. Software manager uses TCP, like your browser. NOT DHCP.
[08:44] <ikonia> dhcp is nothing to do with software manager
[08:44] <ikonia> if you have dhcp servers conflicting with each other on your network and causing ip conflicts/fight, then you need to talk to your network owner
[08:44] <iptable> BaRb0S, so, now, answer the questions: proxy? wifi? cable? also, your network should (must actually) have only one DHCP server at a time, unless they can sync together. you are breaking your own connection.
[08:45] <BaRb0S> iptable: software manager not include code that doing dns (not using system service of resolving names) requests?
[08:46] <ikonia> BaRb0S: what are you talking about ?
[08:46] <iptable> BaRb0S, yes, it does. DNS != DHCP and has nothing to do with it
[08:47] <iptable> BaRb0S, software manager will use resolve.conf which will use resolvconf, like all other services and clients on your machine.
[08:47] <ikonia> iptable: if he has multiple dhcp servers and they are offering out different dns servers.....could be a mess
[08:47] <iptable> ikonia, DNS, IP conflicts, different networks, and stating (no, you can not hold that IP as I didn't assign it to you, stop lying, have this one) - forcing IP change
[08:47] <BaRb0S> iptable: ok. So why it allways lost connection and crashes then?
[08:48] <iptable> ikonia, that's all the issues I can think of in 10 seconds :D
[08:48] <ikonia> iptable: sounds like a shambles/mess
[08:48] <iptable> BaRb0S, you are refusing to answer questions and let us help you.
[08:48] <iptable> BaRb0S, let me reapeat then
[08:48] <BaRb0S> Am usiang opera and other internet clients with no problem
 BaRb0S, so, now, answer the questions: proxy? wifi? cable? also, your network should (must actually) have only one DHCP server at a time, unless they can sync together. you are breaking your own connection.
[08:48] <iptable> BaRb0S, browsing can handle more issues than a large file download
[08:49] <BaRb0S> iptable: connection not breaks out in other apps. PC -> LAN -> router -> provider
[08:50] <iptable> ikonia, yes. they actually let you know how DHCP works on CCNA nowadays and highlight 100s of times "that's why you NEVER have more than 1 standalone DHCP server in the network"
[08:50] <BaRb0S> no proxy no wifi
[08:50] <iptable> BaRb0S, so cabled internet?
[08:50] <BaRb0S> manually configured dhcp server in options
[08:50] <iptable> BaRb0S, so, do you have multiple DHCP servers, or just multiple DNS servers? you seem confused about each.
[08:50] <BaRb0S> internet - ADSL. Doet it change something?
[08:50] <BaRb0S> wtf?
[08:50] <iptable> BaRb0S, you cannot manually configure dhcp server. you can configure DNS server.
[08:50] <ikonia> manually configured dhcp ??
[08:51] <utopian> lol meme made uf me https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t1.0-9/q75/s720x720/10462567_10152188226511242_1491971712469207802_n.jpg
[08:51] <iptable> BaRb0S, you seem confused about DHCP vs DNS. These are NOT the same, totally different. nowhere can you configure DHCP server manually.
[08:51] <BaRb0S> iptable: yes, DNS. But there are DHCP on my router
[08:52] <iptable> BaRb0S, ok, let's get something straight. DHCP is a service used to assign a dynamic IP in your LAN home network to your machines. DNS is the IP that's used to lookup domain names.
[08:52] <iptable> BaRb0S, how many DHCP servers do you have on your network?
[08:53] <BaRb0S> 2 dhcp servers
[08:53] <ikonia> problem 1.
[08:53] <Loshki> BaRb0S: so how do you keep the synchronized?
[08:54] <ikonia> I'm guessing "I don't" is the answer
[08:54] <iptable> BaRb0S, turn one off. you are allowed only 1 DHCP server on your home network.
[08:55] <iptable> BaRb0S, then, wait a few minutes (say 5) and THEN start software manager and try the downloads. if it still fails, change DNS server settings to: 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4 - and try again. see if that still fails.
[08:55] <BaRb0S> iptable: am not confused. sometimes pc get's ip not from dhcp i want to and can't resolve names because of wrong dns server.
[08:56] <iptable> BaRb0S, that will take case of possible issues with DHCP and DNS (separate things, again!). if you don't hve issues, we found culprit. If you do have issues, it's another problem that will will THEN help troubleshoot
[08:56] <iptable> BaRb0S, uhm, you said you configured DNS manually...
[08:56] <iptable> BaRb0S, actually, you said you configured DHCP manually, so you are confused.
[08:56] <ikonia> iptable: it's going to be the dhcp offer overwriting it probably
[08:57] <iptable> ikonia, yes. DHCP normally needs to be refreshed after silly 60 seconds up to 5 minutes for most home routers. so every 60 seconds to 5 minutes, DHCP server could deny lease-extend and request another lease.
[08:57] <Loshki> ikonia: actually, 2 servers would be ok, if their address pools are disjoint. Fastest server would win. Your IP address would bounce around, but that can happen anyway...
[08:57] <iptable> ikonia, browsers normally only read DNS settings once and make small requests which can handle IP address change. Software manager doesn't do that.
[08:58] <BaRb0S> iptable: ok, mno matter. why software manager lost connection while other apps not?
[08:58] <ikonia> Loshki: lets be real, follow the conversation, do you really think that chap has setup non-conflicting dhcp pools that share the same routing
[08:58] <iptable> ikonia, still my torubleshooting steps stand and user refuses to follow. shoudl I stop helping you think?
[08:58] <iptable> BaRb0S, <iptable> ikonia, browsers normally only read DNS settings once and make small requests which can handle IP address change. Software manager doesn't do that.
[08:58] <iptable> BaRb0S, ^ read!
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[08:58] <utopian> Nite every1
[08:58] <ikonia> iptable: I'm getting to the point of ignoring now, as it's the same stuff repeated over and ovre with no progress
[08:58] <iptable> yes
[08:58] <adamcunnington> Hi, I will soon be building my new PC with which i've bought just 1 256gb SSD. I will be dual booting ubuntu 14.04 and windows 8.1 and I was wondering if someone can give a recommendation on partitioning. 1 for ubuntu system, 1 for windows 8.1 and another for other data (files etc.)?
[08:58] <Loshki> ikonia: I think he has trouble answering questions...
[08:58] <iptable> BaRb0S, want help, I gave it to you: here:
 BaRb0S, turn one off. you are allowed only 1 DHCP server on your home network.
 BaRb0S, then, wait a few minutes (say 5) and THEN start software manager and try the downloads. if it still fails, change DNS server settings to: 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4 - and try again. see if that still fails.
 BaRb0S, that will take case of possible issues with DHCP and DNS (separate things, again!). if you don't hve issues, we found culprit. If you do have issues, it's another problem that will will THEN help troubleshoot
[09:00] <iptable> anyways, I'm too young to get angry like that.
[09:00] <iptable> I need to figure out the syntax of the breakfast command
[09:01] <iptable>  /fridge/breakfast --option full-english --to /table/plate --made-by wife
[09:01] <iptable> WOW, kernel panic!
[09:01] <Eggs_> @adamcunnington i would suggest using NTFS for the windows and storage partitions and ext4 for ubuntu, ubuntu can read NTFS but windows cannot read ext4 without extra software sadly
[09:01] <Loshki> iptable: --made-by wife option requires superuser privileges
[09:02] <Eggs_> sudo make breakfast
[09:02] <iptable> Loshki, ah, that's the problem. In house.home.here host I don't have superuser.
[09:02] <iptable> Eggs_, sadly wife not IT, she wouldn't understand. :D
[09:02] <Guest96234> hello
[09:03] <Eggs_> iptable: shes the windows to your ubuntu? :)
[09:04] <iptable> Eggs_, lol, that actually made me laugh. I got her to use linux mint actually and she stopped complaining things don't work... so improvement over windows xp
[09:05] <Eggs_> iptable, linux mint is awesome of new users, i gave it to someone on a laptop because it came with windows 8 which is just crazy for an older user. mint with mate is so similar to windows xp in terms of visuals
[09:05] <Jakey2> is there a sql room
[09:06] <iptable> Eggs_, I know, right? and easier to use than windows. I actually noticed a huge improvement in her complaint wantities.
[09:06] <iptable> quantities
[09:07] <iptable> Eggs_, although, Linux Mint Cinnamon is stable enough and looks better while still very similar, so makes sense to use that nowadays on newer HW. On older, Linux Mint Mate only.
[09:07] <iptable> I actually installed and use ubuntu and put cinnamon on top :)
[09:07] <iptable> Jakey2, tried #sql or #mysql or #mssql etc?
[09:07] <Eggs_> iptables, i have used cinnamon for a while, in ubuntu but i felt it was slightly buggy in certain areas, im on xfce at the moment
[09:08] <Jakey2> iptable: thanks
[09:08] <iptable> Eggs_, it *was*, but latest stable is damn good already. Haven't found a bug in a while now.
[09:09] <Jakey2> is there a difference between SQL 2008 r2 and SQL 2008 r2 express
[09:09] <iptable> Jakey2, yes, the word "express"
[09:09] <Jakey2> haha
[09:09] <McMido> lol
[09:09] <iptable> Jakey2, that's a Microsoft Windows SQL server question on an 'ubuntu channel...
[09:09] <Jakey2> yep
[09:11] <Eggs_> iptable, awesome was that the latest release of mint? what is it now 17?
[09:12] <iptable> Eggs_, on 16 already, now it's 17, haven't installed yet.
[09:12] <iptable> Eggs_, wife's laptop has 16 that is. will install 17 in a week or so. it's LTS as it follows ubuntu 14.04 as well, which is great.
[09:12] <greyhatpython> hi when i run sudo apt-get update i am getting an error: GPG error: http://download.01.org trusty InRelease: Clearsigned file isn't valid, got 'NODATA' (does the network require authentication?)
[09:13] <adamcunnington> Hi, I will soon be building my new PC with which i've bought just 1 256gb SSD. I will be dual booting ubuntu 14.04 and windows 8.1 and I was wondering if someone can give a recommendation on partitioning. 1 for ubuntu system, 1 for windows 8.1 and another for other data (files etc.)?
[09:14] <Eggs_> iptables: i may have to give mint another go, but it reminds me i need to upgrade my server but im dreadding upgrading it from 12.04 to 14.04
[09:16] <Eggs_> adamcunnington: I would suggest using NTFS for the windows and storage partitions and ext4 for ubuntu, ubuntu can read NTFS but windows cannot read ext4 without extra software sadly
[09:17] <iptable> Eggs_, adamcunnington another problem is that you cannot control permissions, like executable flag, on NTFS on linux.
[09:17] <unknownfrequency> Hi there. Anyone knows how i can use a file containing folder names to execute a rm (remove) command.. i guess using find command?
[09:17] <iptable> so cannot put any software there
[09:17] <adamcunnington> Eggs_: can you format different partitions on the same SSD as different formats?
[09:18] <Eggs_> adamcunnington: Sure you can, install windows first and just get it to create a partition of half of the ssd for example
[09:18] <iptable> adamcunnington, partition 1: ubuntu /boot - 2GB, 2: windows 8.1 - whatever remains after others, 3: ubuntu / : 50GB, 4: ubuntu swap 1.5xRAM
[09:18] <adamcunnington> Eggs_: when you say "storage partitions", do you envisage a data partition for each system? I.e. there would be 4 partitions in total - 8.1 system, windows data, ubuntu 14.04 system & apps, ubuntu data
[09:18] <Eggs_> adamcunnington: I thought you wanted to share the data between windows and ubuntu?
[09:19] <iptable> adamcunnington, suggestion: start ubuntu live CD, run gparted, partition drives, start windows 8.1 installer, install windows 8.1, start ubuntu installer, install ubuntu (manual partitioning, to choose the ones you want).
[09:19] <adamcunnington> Eggs_: I guess that would make sense, it depends on what data is? I.e. does windows data include programs or do you assume they would be in same partition as the windows system partition?
[09:19] <Ashael> Hi guys, I have a problem with Chromium since updating to 14.04. It won't accept any characters not in English, e.g. Spanish. I'm using v. 34.0.1847.116 Ubuntu 14.04 aura (260972). I suspect it has something to do with the move to Aura, but I can find very little information. Can anyone help?
[09:19] <iptable> adamcunnington, partition 1: ubuntu /boot - 2GB, 2: windows 8.1 - whatever remains after others, 3: ubuntu / : 50GB, 4: ubuntu swap 1.5xRAM
[09:19] <adamcunnington> iptable: thanks, will note down
[09:19] <iptable> adamcunnington, keep DATA on windows NTFS partition
[09:20] <iptable> ubuntu can access windows NTFS partition as required and is stable for it.
[09:20] <iptable> adamcunnington, for ubuntu: /boot, /: type: ext4, for swap: type swap. for windows 8.1 - ntfs
[09:21] <adamcunnington> iptable: sorry, i'm a newb to this. What exactly is boot? ubuntu 14.04? what is swap?
[09:22] <iptable> adamcunnington, /boot is required to boot. It holds boot information, grub (bootloader that display menu asking which OS), and linux kernel
[09:22] <iptable> adamcunnington, swap holds what windows calls pagefile. in linux you create swap partition. it allows your system to swap memory if you are out of RAM and use things like Hibernate.
[09:22] <iptable> adamcunnington, the / partition is where everything else sits.
[09:23] <adamcunnington> iptable: ok thanks. partition 2: windows 8.1 - would this include windows programs? presumably not my file data though
[09:23] <iptable> adamcunnington, then in /media you will have NTFS mounted somewhere where you can access widnows partition and data
[09:23] <adamcunnington> iptable: ah thanks, yea i'm familiar with pagefile
[09:23] <iptable> adamcunnington, in which case, you would need to split the windows 8.1 to 2 partitions, one for windows and one for data. or keep everything on one partition, your call.
[09:24] <adamcunnington> iptable: what do you mean by data though? Program data? Files etc. would sit inside / ubuntu right so they can be shared across both OS?
[09:24] <adamcunnington> By files, I mean documents*
[09:24] <iptable> adamcunnington, no, data as in puctures, documents, etc
[09:24] <iptable> adamcunnington, program ifles on windows should sit on windows partition
[09:25] <adamcunnington> iptable: yea cool that's what i meant. The only reason i thought it would be good to keep windows programs separate would be so that the OS could be reinstalled easily. Not a good idea?
[09:25] <iptable> adamcunnington, it's up to you how you want to split it. I gave you rough split, you can build on it.
[09:25] <adamcunnington> iptable: actually some windows installations don't allow you to choose partition to install anyway
[09:25] <adamcunnington> windows programs installations*
[09:25] <adamcunnington> iptable: thanks
[09:26] <Ashael> anyone familiar with problems in Chromium text-entry of non-English languages?
[09:27] <Eggs_> adamcunnington: if your struggling to partition the hard drive before you install windows you could boot into a live cd of linux and use gparted or fdisk to create your partiions and then do windows
[09:27] <iptable> adamcunnington, no problem.
[09:27] <iptable> adamcunnington, what I and Eggs_ said, partition that way. live CD ubuntu and gparted. but DO install windows before linux.
[09:28] <adamcunnington> Eggs_: I think i'll do what iptable said and start ubuntu live CD (well i'll boot from USB), run gparted, partition drives, start windows 8.1 installer, install windows 8.1, start ubuntu installer, install ubuntu (manual partitioning, to choose the ones you want)
[09:28] <Eggs_> adamcunnington: Yeah that sounds good to me, good luck :)
[09:28] <adamcunnington> Eggs_: iptable huge thanks both
[09:28] <iptable> adamcunnington, no probs
[09:29] <tmick> quoexl,still here
[09:29] <Eggs_> adamcunnington: no worries :)
[09:38] <porzech> hi i have a problem setting up pam-geoip on ubuntu 14.04 server (have installed libpam-geoip using apt get then downloaded and unpacked geoip database and edited relevant config files in /etc/pam.d/ but when i try to login i get an error in auth.log PAM unable to dlopen (pam_geoip.so) /lib/security/pamgeoip.so
[09:39] <iptable> porzech, look like pam_geoip.so is either 1. corrupt, or 2. missing form the required location, 3. incorreclty named
[09:39] <iptable> porzech, if you have pamgeoip.so but need pam_geoip.so - then you have not configured it with correct name.
[09:40] <porzech> placing a symlink pointing to /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/security/pam_geoip.so where this file is actually located results in different error PAM unable to dlopen(pam_geoip.so): /lib/security/pam_geoip.so: undefined symbol: GeoIPRecord_delete
[09:40] <porzech> i verified the package is correctly installed
[09:42] <karab44> hello
[09:42] <iptable> porzech, ok, that's progress already. looks like the geoip doesn't work now (errors, buggy?)
[09:42] <karab44> what could be the problem for HP printer to take 15 minutes to print one page ?
[09:42] <iptable> porzech, no idea about that though, sorry. got as far as I knew how to go...
[09:43] <iptable> porzech, wouldn't it be better to just use iptables rate limiting to limit the number of tries per IP before blocking said IP?
[09:43] <iptable> karab44, change PCL6 to PCL5e for the printer. that should work.
[09:44] <iptable> karab44, this seems to be driver issue with some drivers. experiment with different HP-specific and Generic PCL drivers until you ifnd a fast one with correct quality.
[09:44] <karab44> iptable: it's laser printer quite old but professional dj 2200
[09:44] <iptable> karab44, networked?
[09:44] <karab44> no, usb
[09:45] <karab44> but I have no idea how do I print... I have cups and gutenprint and I don't know what is what...
[09:45] <iptable> karab44, use the Printers GUI in the system settings?
[09:46] <porzech> well i need to limit some services to specific countries (block login possibility) on client request and it must be configurable per user so iptables approach is impossible i think
[09:46] <iptable> karab44, that's what it's for. cups server (localhost:631 in browser) is configured using that GUI. you can do it yourself, but the GUI is more human. As stated, choose correct drivers, experiment to find fast ones. I am guessing by old that it's PCL6 support is broken/non-existent, and possible PCL5e.
[09:46] <karab44> Okay I will try with PCL5
[09:46] <karab44> thank you so much :)
[09:46] <iptable> porzech, per user iptables rules are acceptable, contry blocking using iptables alone ... not really feasible. too many IPs
[09:48] <karab44> Driver:    HP LaserJet 2200 Postscript (recommended) (grayscale, 2-sided printing)
[09:48] <karab44> it actually uses ps
[09:48] <karab44> should I try with PCL's anyway?
[09:49] <McMido> can some one help me installing my Gpu Driver
[09:49] <iptable> karab44, as stated, try different ones, including PCL, see if it helps. If it's old printer, that's problem number one.
[09:49] <iptable> karab44, and try another USB cable. could be errors on USB comms
[09:49] <iptable> McMido, what GPU driver?
[09:50] <McMido> iptable: my graphic card ati hd readeon 6450
[09:50] <karab44> iptable: I doublechecked that, and it works fast on different systems (the W. ones ;> )
[09:51] <iptable> karab44, experiemnt with different drivers then. it seems to be the issue. on some ps printers (one dell one), I had to use PCL 5e (or 5c, can't remember) to print fast.
[09:51] <iptable> McMido, sorry. I only know the nvidia
[09:51] <iptable> McMido, tried the repos?
[09:51] <McMido> iptable: what repos ?
[09:51] <karab44> roger roger
[09:52] <iptable> McMido, repositories
[09:52] <iptable> McMido, you know, software manager, apt-cache, apt-get
[09:52] <McMido> iptable: no i didnt , i downloaded the driver form ati it self
[09:54] <iptable> McMido, this isn't windows. you don't need to, or even should.
[09:54] <iptable> McMido, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[09:54] <McMido> iptable: aight :D
[09:54] <iptable> McMido, or in short, install (via apt-get or software manager or -preferably- additional drivers): fglrx
[09:56] <BaRb0S> Software manager always lost connection after several time and not responding. How i can find out HOW (because it is so stupid program and can't like you say "browsers normally only read DNS settings once and make small requests which can handle IP address change") it is happened and fix it?
[09:58] <Obhur> hi
[09:58] <BaRb0S> nevertheless, ip address is not changed so fast as software manager shut downs
[10:07] <demoz> hello, i have wierd problem which i do not know how to solve or how to ask/search google.. i wanted to setup a pptp server on ubuntu/centos,and many tutorials explain that you have to setup local range of IP addresses to appoint to clients connecting to this service.. when i do ifconfig i have vmnet0 127.0.0.1 and vmnet0:0 public IP.. how should i set some local range for example 192.168.x.x ?
[10:10] <jnhghy> demoz: I don't know much of pptp but this help article seems quite complete : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PPTPServer
[10:11] <demoz> jnhghy thank you for reply. i saw this article if you check local and remote ip thoose are some local IP ranges,i do not have such range on my vps :(
[10:11] <LordNikon55> demoz: read "Computer Networks" by Andrew Tanenbaum
[10:12] <NapoleaoV> I have ubuntu 14.04 installed with gnome shell, but I dont have any option to lock the screen, I have search but found anything, anyone know what I am missing?
[10:12] <demoz> my main problem is i have only localhost on vmnet0 interface and public ip on vmnet0:0 interface
[10:12] <loa> what i need to do with this? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.06.12-14%3A12%3A38.png
[10:12] <demoz> LordNikon55 i guess i ll have to read it soon.. my main concern is that this is limited at node/server itself
[10:13] <porzech> NapoleaoV try pressing CTRL+ALT+l
[10:16] <iptable> loa, it's an image. you can print it, set it as wallpaper and a lot of other stuff actually.
[10:16] <loa> iptable, there is log message.
[10:17] <loa> and not funny message =/
[10:17] <dbugger> Hi guys. I am trying to get postfix to work, so that I can send mails through PHP, but after following this tutorial, it is still not working. Can someone help me find out why it is not working? (The tutorial: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-setup-postfix-on-ubuntu-14-04)
[10:17] <iptable> loa, oh, well in that case, I would follow the suggestion in the message. It said "Please install nss-myhostname"
[10:18] <loa> iptable, under 13.10 that work, but under 14.04 i have not got such package.
[10:18] <iptable> loa, as per the log message. it is quite funny actually, it tells you how to fix it.
[10:18] <iptable> loa, i'm on 14.04, search does return this: libnss-myhostname
[10:18] <iptable> tried installing it?
[10:18] <barbos_> is there are somewhere logs of this channel. Am was ghosted
[10:18] <loa> hmm
[10:21] <iptable> loa, btw, do you think this message is a problem OR you actually do have a problem?
[10:21] <BaRb0S> where is logs i can read of this channel???
[10:21] <iptable> loa, quick google search results in this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1277608
[10:21] <bcvery> !logs | BaRb0S
[10:21] <BaRb0S> !logs
[10:22] <iptable> loa, i.e. the bug displays the error, but it's not an error unless you need that functionality embedded.
[10:22] <BaRb0S> !cmdlist
[10:22] <loa> iptable, dunno, i remeber that i fixed this message on 13.04, don't want to have something unpredtictable
[10:22] <BaRb0S> !help
[10:22] <iptable> dbugger, we need: 1.main.cf and 2. master.cf
[10:23] <iptable> loa, something unpredictable? just because a warninig is that doesn't mean something is unpredictable
[10:23] <iptable> loa, read the bug report, it says that the message should not be displayed and you should ignore it. everything is fine
[10:23] <loa> iptable, ok
[10:24] <iptable> loa, but if you really need the warning to go away, try the libnss-myhostname package, that's what the warning tells you to install.
[10:24] <dbugger> iptable, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7633018/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/7633019/
[10:24] <loa> i already installed it after your message, thx.
[10:24] <iptable> dbugger, is this a real mail server, or you just want to send email out from it?
[10:25] <iptable> dbugger, as in, it's just a webserver that needs to email out
[10:25] <dbugger> iptable, I just want to send out mail with PHP
[10:25] <iptable> dbugger, then most people will not get it. you are breaking most of the anti-spam rules doing that.
[10:25] <iptable> dbugger, the CORRECT way would be to authenticate against a mail server of sorts and send email using an account on that mail server.
[10:26] <iptable> actual mail server
[10:26] <dbugger> iptable, so you are telling me that the best way is to set up a eral mailserver, right?
[10:26] <iptable> dbugger, or use one that you already have.
[10:26] <dbugger> Ok, as I had undertood, the steps that I was doing were also useful for setting an actual mailserver
[10:26] <iptable> dbugger, you need a domain name to send from that exists and got MX records etc
[10:26] <dbugger> iptable, mind a IM?
[10:27] <loa> i have such situation https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.06.12-14%3A26%3A35.png can i change this wm class?
[10:27] <loa> and why there to different wm classes?
[10:27] <loa> there are *
[10:27] <iptable> loki?
[10:27] <McMido> Pfff still cant install my Graphic card Driver :(
[10:28] <loa> iptable, wut?
[10:29] <BaRb0S> !software
[10:30] <bcvery> !msgthebot > BaRb0S
[10:31] <BaRb0S> is there are split channel for discussing software for ubuntu? (need some processkiller and troubleshooter with gui)
[10:31] <loa> is there way to change wm_class of window?
[10:31] <loa> i found this xprop -name "Chromium-browser" -format WM_CLASS 8s -set WM_CLASS "chrome-monty"
[10:31] <loa> but it said that i have no such window.
[10:32] <psycose> Hello, on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, are we sure thatopenssl  0.9.8k-7ubuntu8.18 really fixes the recent openssl vulnarabilities http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2232-1/ ?
[10:32] <iptable> loa, really? :D
[10:33] <iptable> McMido, expand
[10:33] <manx_> \quit
[10:33] <loa> iptable, funny, that i have such window..
[10:33] <LordNikon55> psycose: No, it's a conspiracy
[10:33] <McMido> :o
[10:33] <iptable> McMido, I have given you a link which gives you 3 different methods of installing the driver. what did you try, what failed, what error, anything
[10:33] <iptable> LordNikon55, lol :D
[10:34] <psycose> LordNikon55: I tried 2 difefrent vulnerability scanner to make sure the system is fixed but it still shows the system is vulnerable, any idea ?
[10:34] <McMido> iptable: ati-driver-installer-11-8-x86.x86_64.run: 1: ati-driver-installer-11-8-x8: not foundn:
[10:34] <McMido> ati-driver-installer-11-8-x86.x86_64.run: 2: ati-driver-installer-11-8-x86.x86_64.run: Syntax error: redirection unexpected
[10:35] <iptable> McMido, uhm, you got that error after trying what?
[10:35] <iptable> McMido, you are not helping here.
[10:36] <bootez> tmick
[10:36] <LordNikon55> psycose: Did you restart all services which use OpenSSL?
[10:36] <McMido> iptable: after uziping the fill and trying to "sh" run it
[10:37] <psycose> LordNikon55: yes, even a reboot
[10:37] <tmick> bootez what
[10:37] <McMido> iptable: here exactly sh amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13-4-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/trusty
[10:37] <iptable> McMido, DID you try to follow the link I sent you?
[10:37] <bootez> test
[10:38] <iptable> McMido, did you go to "additional drivers" section and install through there?
[10:38] <McMido> iptable: its from the link you sent me
[10:38] <McMido> iptable: i didnt
[10:38] <iptable> McMido, which part? why not usre the "additional drivers" section? it installs all the deps and correct driver. latest driver you are downloading might not work with your kernel and need modifications. ubuntu did the hard work for you
[10:38] <LordNikon55> psycose: Updated libssl too?
[10:38] <BaRb0S> How can i know what process or app freezes ubuntu at all (it once happened that i can't at least launch terminal)? No respond at all. Mouse pointer hover was very slow. :(
[10:38] <iptable> McMido, install using apt-get, software manager or additional drivers
[10:39] <LordNikon55> psycose: Or using static binaries?
[10:39] <LordNikon55> psycose: Otherwise could be a false positive in some way
[10:39] <iptable> psycose, you need to restart the whole box
[10:39] <tmick> bootez what test
[10:39] <McMido> iptable: well iam already trying the additional drivers but cant really do much
[10:39] <iptable> BaRb0S, if you cannot launch terminal, you cannot tell. CTRL+ALT+F1 didn't get you fast-enough console to troubleshoot?
[10:40] <iptable> McMido, define "can't do much"
[10:40] <psycose> iptable: whole box has been restarted
[10:41] <psycose> LordNikon55: using shared libraries
[10:41] <jackarg> Hi, how do I know if I have nvidia optimus and need bumblebee?
[10:41] <iptable> psycose, uhm, you sure 10.04 is still supported and libssl gets fixed on it?
[10:41] <McMido> iptable: oh it showed up now  well am trying the x-org driver i hope it will work
[10:41] <iptable> jackarg, lspci
[10:42] <jackarg> iptable: then what?
[10:42] <iptable> McMido, fglrx is what you should be choosing, but yeah, whatever you fancy
[10:42] <iptable> jackarg, read the output? the bit that tells you your grpahics card model
[10:42] <McMido> iptable: iam new , so i dont really know what are they
[10:42] <psycose> iptable: yes, see http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2232-1/
[10:42] <McMido> iptable: so give me your adive :)
[10:43] <McMido> iptable: advice*
[10:43] <jackarg> iptable: well I have an intel card and an NVIDIA card. If I have both, i have optimus?
[10:43] <iptable> McMido, fglrx is an ATI driver. if you have that in the list, instlal it
[10:44] <BaRb0S> iptable: sorry my bad english. it was in past. ctrl+alt+any number was not responding at all
[10:44] <iptable> psycose, false reading of vulnerability maybe or you have another version of libssl somwhere?
[10:44] <psycose> ok may be false positive
[10:44] <iptable> BaRb0S, can't help if it's not happening now, but all you can do is check logs if you needed to reboot
[10:44] <krizoek> someone here knows of a web browser apart from epiphany, firefox, and chromium that allows tab-groups ?
[10:44] <iptable> krizoek, IE?
[10:45] <krizoek> for ubuntu
[10:45] <iptable> jackarg, if you have both, you have hybrid graphics (doesn't have to be optimus, but most likely)
[10:45] <dmk_> Hello
[10:45] <Meteorskies> Hello there
[10:45] <iptable> jackarg, on ubuntu 14.04 and nvidia, do NOT use bumblebee
[10:45] <iptable> jackarg, use nvidia-prime instead. it's nvidia tool for switching graphics
[10:46] <Meteorskies> I have a question regarding 10.04 LTS (not server, although I know 10.04 is no longer supported)
[10:46] <dmk_> Please, I'm using Ubuntu 13.04, it's impossible to get root access
[10:46] <hateball> Meteorskies: fire away, altho the replies will be "upgrade" ;)
[10:46] <iptable> dmk_, impossible?
[10:46] <jackarg> iptable how about on mint 17? Can I use bumblebee? And I still don't understand the difference between downloading the driver from here: http://www.geforce.com/drivers, getting nvidia-pime, getting nvidia-current, and bumblebee. It's all confusing
[10:46] <LordNikon55> krizoek: Surf/tabbed from suckless.org
[10:47] <Yakisoba> 	
[10:47] <Yakisoba> Hi! my ubuntu does not want to take a wired connection. When I plugged the cable into the computer, she writes, to Obtain a network address. Then, "the connection is broken", then immediately again tries to connect and get the network address. And so on to infinity. What to do?
[10:47] <Meteorskies> A recent package update now makes Firefox crash on every page with flash, and it blocks skype connection
[10:47] <iptable> dmk_, 1. boot from live CD, 2. go to terminal, 3. mount your root filesystem, 4. chroot to the mount, 5. passwd as root. that resets root password
[10:47] <Meteorskies> hateball: I know, but I'm on an old netbook
[10:47] <BaRb0S> iptable: how you can help if it is all frozen? LOL i can't then type in chat
[10:47] <iptable> jackarg, mint 17 IS ubuntu 14.04. use nvidia-prime if you can. if that fails only, then try bumblebee
[10:47] <hateball> Meteorskies: Flash for Firefox is old and unsupported by Adobe to start with
[10:47] <dmk_> Yes, I have error the pass word is incorrect,
[10:48] <Meteorskies> hateball: it wasn't a problem until last week
[10:48] <jackarg> iptable: what's the problem with bumblebee?
[10:48] <iptable> Yakisoba, the DHCP is not working most likely. reboot router?
[10:48] <Meteorskies> hateball: got the same issue on Opera though
[10:48] <iptable> BaRb0S, as state,d then you can only check logs after that
[10:48] <Yakisoba> iptable ok.
[10:48] <hateball> Meteorskies: If it's a netbook, I guess you are using 32-bit flash as well?
[10:48] <Meteorskies> hateball: yep
[10:49] <BaRb0S> i just want know how i can debug it and find a problem themselves with some helpful tools i did not know now
[10:49] <iptable> jackarg, it's outdated already
[10:49] <iptable> jackarg, hence nvidia released their own, specially for nvidia optimus, called nvidia-prime.
[10:49] <jackarg> iptable: and what exactly does nvidia prime do?
[10:49] <hateball> Meteorskies: Why not update?
[10:49] <iptable> jackarg, what bumblebee attempts to.
[10:49] <iptable> jackarg, allows you to switch between intel and nvidia cards on demand
[10:50] <jackarg> iptable: so then why doesn't everyone use prime?
[10:50] <iptable> jackarg, uhm, they do. nowadays, people just install and use prime which seems to work out of the box where bumblebee fails
[10:50] <Meteorskies> hateball: I did update, dot upgrade. Upgrade to more recent gives me a UI my netbook hardly supports
[10:50] <Ben64> jackarg: it didn't exist until more recently
[10:50] <Meteorskies> hateball: what I did just in case was reinstall ubuntu, and it worked at first until I rebooted to apply the updated packages
[10:50] <iptable> jackarg, but try bumblebee if you prefer to use something else. I'm not stopping you
[10:51] <BaRb0S> Yakisoba: manually input in network config address of your DHCP server
[10:51] <iptable> BaRb0S, you cannot input address of DHCP server manually!!! you are still confused about that, please stop!
[10:51] <jackarg> Ben64: iptable Ok thanks guys, I've been having problems with bumblebee and that probably explains it I'm gonna install mint 17 and use prime
[10:51] <BaRb0S> iptable: reboot router? lol
[10:51] <hateball> Meteorskies: Does flash load automatically or do you use flashblock or some such?
[10:51] <Ben64> jackarg: keep in mind mint is not supported here
[10:52] <iptable> BaRb0S, the DHCP wasn't working, home router, reboot. solves problems 90% of the time on home routers. what is your problem?
[10:52] <hateball> Meteorskies: do you know if flash got updated, or if it was just firefox 30 ?
[10:52] <iptable> BaRb0S, at least I don't tell people to manually input DHCP server into network settings - which cannot be done. it's DNS!
[10:52] <jackarg> Ben64: I know. It's just that there isn't anyone over in the mint channel. I never get any response
[10:52] <BaRb0S> most of home routers runs linux
[10:53] <BaRb0S> there are iptable too
[10:53] <Meteorskies> hateball: I haven't checked
[10:53] <iptable> BaRb0S, no, they run a very vandalised version of it or some other embedded crap
[10:53] <Ben64> jackarg: then maybe you shouldn't use mint if you want to use this channel
[10:53] <dieud2609> hello
[10:53] <iptable> BaRb0S, and the only way to restart dhcp service on them is to powercycle the router
[10:53] <BaRb0S> iptable: don't lie
[10:54] <iptable> BaRb0S, are you daft?
[10:54] <dieud2609> hello
[10:54] <Meteorskies> hateball: I haven't knowingly enabled anything like flasblock, so I suppose it loads automatically
[10:54] <iptable> BaRb0S, if you find me one place to input DHCP settings and give me screenshot, I'll pay you!
[10:54] <iptable> BaRb0S, now read about it, you run 2 DHCP servers on same network and complain it doesn't work. Enough. DHCP != DNS for the last time!
[10:55] <hateball> Meteorskies: well, then that's something to try. unless you want flash to load automatically. which I would certainly not want on a netbook
[10:55] <BaRb0S> iptable: i know it without you that dns!=dhcp, lol
[10:55] <hateball> Meteorskies: I'm thinking, if it crashes on everything flash related, or just because it automatically loads a lot or something
[10:55] <iptable> BaRb0S, then why are you suggesting people to put DHCP server details into their connection setting smartasss?
[10:56] <BaRb0S> iptable: am just can't explain my problen in english
[10:56] <Ben64> BaRb0S: there are different channels for other languages
[10:56] <dieud2609> how can I get root access in Ubuntu 13.04
[10:56] <iptable> BaRb0S, there is no 1 place to put DHCP settings, stop. oh, and I do not lie. I happen to know exactly what runs on most home routers. Programmed a few of them.
[10:56] <gshmu> https://github.com/mhohai/open.sh
[10:56] <Meteorskies> hateball: I don't know, but what bothers me is that it worked without any problem until I updated some packages last week
[10:57] <Meteorskies> hateball: now it's a real problem
[10:57] <Ben64> dieud2609: sudo
[10:57] <Ben64> dieud2609: and 13.04 is EOL, you need to upgrade to a supported release
[10:57] <gshmu> share your screen shot will easy...  Thanks
[10:58] <hateball> Meteorskies: well, you're running old software.. probably does not get tested as much. You can check /var/log/dpkg.log to see exactly what was updated
[10:59] <dieud2609> but if I'm using su + pass word, but always failure to get access root
[11:00] <Ben64> dieud2609: yep, root is disabled. so you should upgrade now to 14.04
[11:00] <Meteorskies> hateball: far too many things to check I'm afraid, since it made a huge update after the reinstall
[11:00] <dieud2609> thanks
[11:01] <Ben64> dieud2609: support ended for 13.04 January 27th
[11:01] <DarkStar1> How can I check if amavis is running?
[11:01] <Meteorskies> hateball: as we speak, merely clicking on the menu on firefox makes it crash
[11:02] <dieud2609> it's possible to change pass word for access root?
[11:02] <gshmu> if you need share screen shot or any picture see https://github.com/mhohai/open.sh
[11:02] <debabrata> dieud2609, you can use "sudo su"
[11:02] <Ben64> dieud2609: you don't need to
[11:02] <Ben64> debabrata: do not suggest that, it can break things
[11:02] <debabrata> yup..
[11:02] <Ben64> gshmu: stop spamming that please
[11:03] <gshmu> Ben64: It's end and it no spamming !!!
[11:04] <Ben64> gshmu: it is not on topic, you've posted it multiple times. its spam. stop.
[11:04] <debabrata> but i sometime use sudo su... what's the danger..?
[11:04]  * iptable goes for lunch
[11:04] <gshmu> Ben64: It's writing at ubuntu and for ubuntu to using
[11:04] <Ben64> debabrata: it sets up a bad environment and could potentially lock you out of gui
[11:05] <Ben64> gshmu: the topic is "ubuntu support" not "promote scripts"
[11:05] <hateball> debabrata: if you *need* an interactive shell, use "sudo -i"
[11:05] <gshmu> Ben64: I'm a Chinese, my English poor, again Just introduce it
[11:05] <debabrata> oh, now i will only use sudo... or sudo -i. thanks.
[11:06] <Ben64> gshmu: do not post that here. it is against the rules
[11:06] <jackarg> Ben64 which do you think will work best in terms of gaming and drivers? Mint or Ubuntu?
[11:06] <Ben64> do i think? i'd say ubuntu. steam targets it
[11:06] <dieud266> it's possible to change pass word for access root?
[11:07] <Ben64> dieud266: for like the 6th time, use sudo if you need to do something with root permissions, setting a root password is a bad idea
[11:07] <Ben64> dieud266: and you should be focusing on upgrading your system, because you haven't had a security update in nearly 5 months
[11:08] <jackarg> Ben64: Ok, I'll go with ubuntu
[11:09] <dieud266> it's possible to change pass word for access root?
[11:09] <Eggs_> Ben64: Just a quick question, whats the difference between sudo su and sudo -i? if -i is always better why isnt it an alias?
[11:09] <Ben64> dieud266: you've gotten your answer already. stop asking
[11:09] <Ben64> Eggs_: it sets up a bad environment and could potentially lock you out of gui.... as for alias, i can't speak to that
[11:10] <Eggs_> Ben64: What if there is no GUI?
[11:11] <Ben64> Eggs_: still sets a bad environment
[11:11] <jackarg> Ben64:  hold on, can you switch between optimus and nvidia with prime? Or does it just use nvidia constantly
[11:12] <Ben64> jackarg: iId imagine it switches, but I don't have a system with optimus, so I don't know
[11:12] <Eggs_> Ben64: What do you mean by bad environment?
[11:13] <Ben64> Eggs_: environment variables
[11:13] <Eggs_> Ben64: Ah right ok, thanks
[11:18] <zergut> good day, what is the difference between acpi_backlight=vendor video.use_bios_initial_backlight=0 и video.use_native_backlight=1 ?
[11:25] <anexit> what does ld.so belong to?
[11:26] <Wug> anexit: have you heard of apt-file
[11:28] <Wug> anexit: apt-file search ld-linux.so yields this: libc6-i386: /lib/ld-linux.so.2
[11:32] <Jhgs> How can I make power button do something other than show the popup in ubuntu 14.04?
[11:34] <JackH> how do I connect to a remote mysql db from my ubuntu? I prefer an application on the desktop. Any suggestions for such?
[11:34] <ikonia> mysqladmin or mysql workbench
[11:34] <ikonia> once obsoletes the other depending on your ubuntu version
[11:34] <JackH> 12.04
[11:34] <ikonia> I didn't ask your version
[11:36] <JackH> hmm
[11:36] <JackH> you are confusing me
[11:36] <ikonia> open software package installer tool of your choice, search for mysql workbench, install it
[11:37] <JackH> ok thanks :)
[11:37] <anexit> wug: indeed, I've been getting this error the last few days trying to run any game on steam. ERROR: ld.so: object '/home/anexit/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32): ignored.
[11:38] <anexit> Which seems like an opengl issue.. but I'm having my doubts about it because glxgears works great
[11:39] <Jorge_> Hello!
[11:39] <ikonia> glxgears is not a test suite
[11:39] <ikonia> if you look at the erorr it's complaining the wrong elfclass (32bit) is in use, so is it possible you are running this against a 64bit system / dependencies ?
[11:40] <Jorge_> Anyone can help me download a flash video on ubuntu? I used to acess /tmp folder and get the file Flash*.swf file, now it seems diferrent. I also tried some firefox addons but no sucess. Any help?
[11:41] <LordNikon55> Jorge_: Firefox cache directory
[11:42] <Jorge_> I tried, but i couldn't find , the file is divided in small pieces and i can't join them
[11:42] <Jorge_> something like CACHE_003
[11:44] <anexit> ikonia: yes this should be a 64bit system:
[11:44] <anexit> Linux beastie 3.13.0-29-generic #53-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jun 4 21:00:20 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[11:44] <jnhghy> I have 1 mp3 file less then 1 min long that I need to be able to play as track (I need to burn it on a cd) is there a tutorial on this? what should I use? I googled but found only how to extract track to mp3 not the other way around
[11:44] <compdoc> beastie
[11:46] <Praash> I just installed 64-bit kernel 3.15, now the boot process gets stuck in "Loading initial ramdisk..."
[11:46] <Praash> I'm still able to boot to 3.13 normally
[11:48] <Praash> hmm, booting in recovery mode seems to do something
[11:48] <LordNikon55> Praash: What method did you use for installing 3.15?
[11:50] <Praash> LordNikon55, I downloaded the 3.15 headers and image from ubuntu kernel mainline repo, and installed using dpkg
[11:50] <Praash> alright, booting 3.15 in recovery mode seems to be stuck as well
[11:52] <Praash> can't tell much about the log displayed, the last line reads "NET: Registered protocol family 1"
[11:53] <ThisWeekPeter> Hello. This is a test
[11:53] <LordNikon55> Praash: Those kernel builds are for used for debugging, they shouldn't be used if you're not elite
[11:53] <Praash> oohhh, I see
[11:54] <Praash> LordNikon55, could you link me a prebuilt kernel then?
[11:54] <ObrienDave> Praash, just because it's available does NOT mean it's a good idea to install it :))
[11:54] <Ben64> Praash: you should stick to the kernels in the ubuntu repositories
[11:55] <bootes> hello
[11:55] <Praash> so I should stay with 3.13?
[11:55] <Ben64> Praash: yep, thats the one that comes with 14.04, you'll receive security updates and other neat things, plus it boots!
[11:56] <Praash> I just want to try out if games work any better with 3.15... :P
[11:56] <Praash> 3.15 is marked as a stable kernel by kernel.org
[11:56] <Ben64> Praash: it is doubtful, unless something got added that would specifically help gaming
[12:00] <bootes> test
[12:00] <Wug> anexit: sounds like its trying to load a wrong wordsize librart
[12:00] <Wug> library*
[12:02] <bootez> I2S
[12:04] <ThisWeekPeter> Hello, i'm from germany. I've installed lubuntu 14.04 yesterday. But I've got some problems with evolution and libdvdcss. Can you tell me the chat, where those problems are discussed?
[12:05] <anexit> I'm un-installing steam.  I 'm wondering if there is an issue with it since I updated to 13.13
[12:05] <Fer> ho
[12:06] <luckyuser_> tect
[12:06] <Ben64> anexit: there is no 13.13...
[12:06] <anexit> Ben64: Linux beastie 3.13.0-29-generic #53-Ubuntu
[12:07] <Ben64> anexit: what version of ubuntu?
[12:10] <anexit> xubuntu 14.10
[12:11] <anexit> I was on 12.x
[12:14] <aniket> hi all
[12:14] <Ben64> anexit: 14.10? that isn't out yet, support in #ubuntu+1 until release
[12:15] <aniket> In our Environment I have setup One Ubuntu Repository server on which I have downloaded OpenStack havana packages from havana and havana-proposed repository.Repo server havana-proposed package location: /var/spool/apt-mirror/mirror/ubuntu-cloud.archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/pool/main/ (2013 packages).havana packages location: /var/spool/apt-mirror/mirror/archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/ (2012 packages).
[12:15] <aniket> I'm tring to install packages from Repo server to another Openstack ubuntu server but I'm not able to install havana-proposed packages. on ubuntu client in sources.list I have mentioned Repo server ip but every time old 2012 packages are getting installed.
[12:20] <rnz> Hi! Anybody know how to tune kernel in next situation: when chromium have many tabs(processes), gtk applications is slowdown (claws-mail, libreoffice) and in top have many kernel processes "migrate/X", where X - smallint? May be need configure some /proc/sys/kernel/sched_* ?
[12:25] <jackarg> Ok so I just installed 14.04 and for the first time ever it detects my nvidia card. But I have optimus. So what happens if I choose the proprietary driver, what will happen? It'll just use my nvidia card only?
[12:27] <lpkio> Hi all
[12:27] <karooga> Hi, I'm trying to do a cross build for a package for ARM, using chroot and debootstrap.  I however am unable to chroot into the directory: "failed to run command ‘/bin/bash’: No such file or directory" when I run "chroot ./wheezy"
[12:28] <lpkio> What is the major difference between ext3 and ext4. And which one is it recommended to use
[12:28] <mlh> hello
[12:28] <lpkio> Awnd wwhy ?
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> lpkio: ext4 is default in Ubuntu. If you have to ask, stick with the defaults and you'll be fine
[12:29] <mlh> any body ?
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> mlh: anybody what?
[12:30] <js_doode> how can i make my /var/www able to write .php and .html files for my user, not just root?
[12:30] <cfhowlett> lpkio ext3  is WAY out of fashion
[12:30] <js_doode> ^ubuntu 14.04 is my distro.
[12:30] <cfhowlett> mlh ask your ubuntu questions
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> js_doode: add your user to the group that has group ownership on the folder
[12:30] <lpkio> cfhowlett, I am driving through a tedious learning process
[12:30] <lpkio> What makes it out of fashion cfhowlett
[12:30] <lpkio> If I may ask you
[12:31] <js_doode> ActionParsnip: Pardon, how is that done?
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> what is the group owner on /var/www ?
[12:31] <cfhowlett> lpkio ext4 has been the default for - what - 4  years now?  better supported, tighter integration and more robust filesystem protection.  Of course, you COULD use ext3 if you want ...
[12:31] <mlh> yeah
[12:32] <mlh> I need your help
[12:32] <martin_barri> como cambio themes en ubuntu
[12:32] <mlh> who can help me
[12:32] <cfhowlett> !details|mlh
[12:32] <ObrienDave> lpkio, and ext4 has a MUCH larger file size limit
[12:33] <lpkio> Ok
[12:33] <cfhowlett> mlh in other words, stop asking for help and STATE the darn problem!  :)
[12:33] <ObrienDave> !ask | mlh
[12:34] <js_doode> ActionParsnip: the owner to /var/www is www-data
[12:34] <jackarg> Ok I just selected the nvidia proprietary driver in ubuntu 14.04 and now my computer just show the background once I log in. Is there any way I can change the drivers with the command line? or anyway to fix this?
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> js_doode: then add yourself to that group
[12:36] <mlh> we 'll do a student's manger system by c,but the Node i can't write well
[12:37] <lastarms> jackarg: ctrl + shift F2
[12:37] <jackarg> lastarms: Yes, and then what?
[12:37] <jackarg> any commands?
[12:38] <jackarg> Do you think this would help? apt-get install –reinstall ubuntu-desktop apt-get install unity apt-get purge nvidia* bumblebee* apt-get install nvidia-prime shutdown -r now
[12:38] <mlh> no one no answer no do no die
[12:39] <rnz> Hi! Anybody know how to tune kernel in next situation: when chromium have many tabs(processes), gtk applications is slowdown (claws-mail, libreoffice) and in top have many kernel processes "migrate/X", where X - smallint? May be need configure some /proc/sys/kernel/sched_* ?
[12:39] <rnz> I think this problem in cgroups or/and in scheduler (cfq), because with threaded browser (firefox w/o plugins) this problem not present...
[12:39] <ObrienDave> mlh, you have NOT asked a question or requested help
[12:39] <cfhowlett> mlh provide full details.  no mind readers on duty.
[12:41] <js_doode> ActionParsnip: followed this verbatim: http://askubuntu.com/questions/101506/correct-steps-for-adding-user-to-var-www
[12:41] <oryan> Hi, someone can tell me please how i can load privatekey with password to remmina?
[12:42] <oryan> in linux mint
[12:42] <ObrienDave> ask in #mint?
[12:42] <cfhowlett> !mint|oryan not supported here.  sorry.
[12:42] <js_doode> ActionParsnip: /var/www is ok but my apache created an html directory inside www and that is still read-only for files. I thought the command was recursive.
[12:42] <mlh> Well, I do some landing now, but why the list to create good, is the password and account do not add to the file, it does not implement while (P) {} inside the contents
[12:42] <oryan> thank you
[12:43] <cfhowlett> mlh what language do you speak?
[12:43] <ObrienDave> mlh, what is your native language?
[12:43] <mlh> c
[12:44] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave "google translate"
[12:44] <mlh> C language
[12:44] <ObrienDave> *facepalm* no, english, spanish, chinese?
[12:44] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, ;)
[12:44] <cfhowlett> mlh /join ##c
[12:45] <js_doode> ActionParsnip: I take that back. The files in /var/www are still read-only.
[12:46] <mlh> ok
[12:46] <ObrienDave> *smh*
[12:46] <mlh> i I have entered the ##c
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> js_doode: read only by owner, group and world!?
[12:47] <js_doode> ActionParsnip: Sorry. I'm just not seeing it. :/
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> js_doode: what is the output of:  ls -l /var/www
[12:48] <mlh> i'll later with you chat
[12:49] <jackarg> does anyone have a solution??? I selected to use a NVIDIA proprietary driver and now I just get a background after I login
[12:49] <lastarms> jackarg: sorry, you said nvidia driver right?
[12:50] <lastarms> just try uninstalling it
[12:50] <jackarg> but how?
[12:50] <lastarms> jackarg: uninstall and it should go back to the original settign
[12:50] <js_doode> ActionParsnip: -rw-r--r-- 1 root     www-data  217 Jun 12 06:44 helloworld.php
[12:50] <js_doode> drwxrwxr-x 2 www-data www-data 4096 Jun 12 06:24 html
[12:50] <lastarms> jackarg: did you install the official or the opensource?
[12:50] <jackarg> But how do I uninstall?
[12:50] <jackarg> official
[12:50] <lastarms> jackarg: errr find the uninstall command in the internet
[12:51] <lastarms> jackarg: nvidia should have the command somewhere
[12:51] <jackarg> hold on lemme eat something brb
[12:52] <lastarms> jackarg: I don;t know how long i;ll be here
[12:56] <jackarg> ok back
[12:56] <sven170163> hi
[12:58] <jackarg> lastarms: well I found the command but now I'm getting; "could not resolve fr.archive.ubuntu.com" among other things
[12:59] <jackarg> whatever, I'm reinstallling
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> js_doode: then you will need to either make the group have write access, or use sudo when you want to make changes (This is more secure)
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> jackarg: have you tried switching server to the main server?
[13:01] <jackarg> ActionParsnip: how do you do that?
[13:02] <ObrienDave> select the mirror in software sources
[13:02] <jackarg> I'm limited to a terminal
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> jackarg: Make sure you have a backup copy of the data then run:    sudo chown g+w /var/www
[13:02] <bootes> say 测试
[13:02] <jackarg> can I just have commands?
[13:02] <bootes> 测试
[13:02] <jackarg> of what data?
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> jackarg: sudo chown -R g+w /var/www
[13:03] <jackarg> yeah, ok thanks I'll try
[13:03] <js_doode> ActionParnsip: ok. Thank you. appreciate it.
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> js_doode: ^
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> jackarg: thats for js_doode sorry
[13:03] <cfhowlett> !cn|bootes
[13:03] <jackarg> hallelujah!
[13:04] <jackarg> I switched to ctrl shit F7 and I've got visuals:
[13:04] <jackarg> I've got visuals!
[13:04] <jackarg> I have no idea what I did
[13:04] <bootes> I know
[13:05] <anexit> should
[13:06] <jackarg> OkI have no idea what happened but it works. lastarms would you know: If I selected to use the proprietary driver, but i have optimus, does that mean I'm just gonna run the nvidia card and that's it? No switching?
[13:06] <ikonia> jackarg: keep it simple, pick intel/nvidia - set one, use one
[13:07] <ikonia> the switching is not great if left to be dynamic
[13:08] <jackarg> ikonia: I just wanna understand this. The default driver was "x.org X server" whatever. I assume that's intel? So at any moment I could go back and choose that one, restart, and it would go back to using my intel driver? And then I could pick my nvidia, and it would use my nvidia card?
[13:08] <jackarg> ikonia: So I don't really need prime/bumblebee?
[13:09] <jackarg> ikonia: just to make sure, how do I know which card is being used right now?
[13:11] <mpourhadi> when i run apt-get update it also search for google chrome how can i disable it?
[13:11] <nerium> Is it possible to force logrotate to remove a log file, even if it's used?
[13:15] <ikonia> jackarg: bumblebee should be able to tell you the mode
[13:15] <ikonia> jackarg: you may see it in your xorg log - but I don't know if it actually shows which one it's using at that level
[13:25] <AaronEstrada> hola
[13:43] <h1dd3ntru7h> hello everyone, I tried putting the grub password in my newly installed ubuntu14.04 os. When I rebooted after setting up the grub password, it prompted for the user name and password in the grub. But when I gave the credentials it went back to the grub and once again it prompts for the password and user name. I am not  able to login into my account.
[13:43] <h1dd3ntru7h> can someone help me with this issue?
[13:43] <Forenti> That sounds awful
[13:43] <ObrienDave> grub password?
[13:43] <h1dd3ntru7h> I tried resinstalling the grub from a live bootable pendrive, but still in vain
[13:43] <h1dd3ntru7h> yes
[13:44] <c0mrad3> how to get out of git
[13:44] <c0mrad3> in terminal
[13:44] <g105b> Where are the standard icons for folder-documents, folder-music located?
[13:45] <g105b> c0mrad3: get out of?
[13:45] <c0mrad3> g105b: i mean it is in my terminal
[13:45] <h1dd3ntru7h> Forenti: is it possible to remove the configured grub password?
[13:45] <g105b> c0mrad3: it's in all our terminals.
[13:45] <c0mrad3> g105b: i need to go to zsh
[13:46] <ObrienDave> re-install grub?
[13:46] <g105b> c0mrad3: ctrl+c is the most common key combination to terminate a process. q is used by things like more/less. exit comes out of the current terminal session.
[13:46] <Pici> c0mrad3: What does your prompt look like right now?
[13:47] <c0mrad3> Pici: it say's git(master)
[13:47] <Pici> just move away from that directory.
[13:47] <c0mrad3> g105b: no it is not working
[13:47] <g105b> it == user
[13:48] <g105b> c0mrad3: what exactly are you trying to accomplish?
[13:49] <c0mrad3> g105b: i need my terminal to be as normal one
[13:49] <ObrienDave> open a new terminal
[13:49] <Pici> c0mrad3: there are some programs that will automatically detect if the path you are in is being tracked by git.  The one you are is, you can either ignore it or move away from that path
[13:49] <c0mrad3> Pici: what ??
[13:50] <Pici> c0mrad3: You're still in zsh, it is just telling you that the path that you are in is being tracked by git.
[13:51] <c0mrad3> Pici: how to get out of tracking
[13:51] <c0mrad3> ???
[13:51] <g105b> c0mrad3: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html
[13:51] <Pici> c0mrad3: Did you clone a git project?
[13:51] <c0mrad3> ya i think so
[13:52] <c0mrad3> Pici: in git bucket
[13:52] <akardm> Hi guys! I just updated my Ubuntu 14.04 and now Unity doesnt start anymore. It looks exactly like in this thread: http://askubuntu.com/questions/17381/unity-doesnt-load-no-launcher-no-dash-appears But the top answer doesn't solve my problem. In CCSM the unity plugin is active.
[13:52] <Pici> c0mrad3: Are you in that project's directory right now?
[13:53] <c0mrad3> Pici: i don't know
[13:54] <ntz> hello
[13:54] <kkkkkkk> hi all i am using ubuntu 14.04 32 bit and i have inspiron 1545 laptop, bluetooth is being detected by ubuntu but wireless not detected, i checked frombios setting, both are ON AND I ALSO resetted the bios,
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> akardm: do you use proprietary video drivers?
[13:54] <kkkkkkk> but  no solution
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> kkkkkkk: what wifi chip do you use?
[13:54] <kkkkkkk> i am going to paste lsusb and rfkill list output
[13:55] <c0mrad3> Pici: ???
[13:55] <kkkkkkk> ActionParsnip: please wait few seconds
[13:55] <Pici> c0mrad3: type  pwd  , it will tell you where you are
[13:55] <akardm> ActionParsnip: Yes, I installed fglrx before. My idea was to purge it, install radeon and then reset unity. However, after purging fglrx I couldn't install radeon
[13:55] <kkkkkkk> Bus 003 Device 005: ID 413c:8160 Dell Computer Corp. Wireless 365 Bluetooth
[13:55] <ntz> anyone having following problem: when I wake up my laptop from ram, firefox starts utilizing cpu very much .. just this one app, nothing else .. I have to pkill firefox and restart it again .. it's very very very annoying .. I hate firefox so much .. is it because firefox knows that I don;t like him and he does so for a revenge ?
[13:55] <ntz> I think that monkeys programmed it
[13:56] <kkkkkkk> ActionParsnip: Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0a5c:4500 Broadcom Corp. BCM2046B1 USB 2.0 Hub (part of BCM2046 Bluetooth)
[13:56] <kkkkkkk> i think one of these
[13:56] <kkkkkkk> i don't know exactly which is my wireless card.
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> kkkkkkk: if you run:   sudo lshw -C network      do you see the wifi?
[13:57] <c0mrad3> Pici: i am in the right one but
[13:57] <c0mrad3> Pici:
[13:57] <kkkkkkk> ActionParsnip: wait let me check
[13:58] <Pici> c0mrad3: try cd-ing into another directory, like ~/
[13:58] <kkkkkkk> ActionParsnip: no, one is ethernet and other is my tethered android's
[13:58] <kkkkkkk> ActionParsnip: there is no broadcom or dell wireless
[13:59] <kkkkkkk> ActionParsnip: my laptop wireless card is okay or not, how to find out
[13:59] <c0mrad3> Pici: but still the same it show desktop and then git
[14:00] <kkkkkkk> ActionParsnip: there might be some problem with hardware also, i also check additional drivers, no drivers were available
[14:01] <Pici> c0mrad3: can you paste exactly what your prompt says?
[14:01] <kkkkkkk> ActionParsnip: are you there
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> kkkkkkk: I remember a boot option for those wifi + bluetooth combox cards
[14:01] <c0mrad3> Pici: ➜  Desktop git:(master) ✗
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> kkkkkkk: tried:  sudo rfkill unblock all
[14:02] <kkkkkkk> ActionParsnip: yes, i went to bios settings and then  both were ticked to on in bios,
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> kkkkkkk:  tried this http://lduros.net/posts/dell-inspiron-1545-broadcom-wireless-drivers-ubuntu-natty/
[14:02] <kkkkkkk> i am using dell inspiron 1545 and bios a07, preety old bios but i couldn't update it
[14:03] <kkkkkkk> ActionParsnip: i am using 14.04 will this work for 14.04 also?
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> kkkkkkk: should be ok, its the same method
[14:03] <c0mrad3> Pici: ➜  Desktop git:(master) ✗
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> kkkkkkk: the method for those cheap broadcoms is pretty much the sme
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> *same
[14:04] <kkkkkkk>  Unable to locate package bcmwl-sta-common
[14:04] <kkkkkkk> this is what showed up in terminal
[14:05] <kkkkkkk> ActionParsnip: please see above
[14:05] <Pici> c0mrad3: Hmm..
[14:07] <Pici> c0mrad3: What does    git rev-parse --git-dir   say?
[14:07] <kkkkkkk> ActionParsnip: bcmwl-kernel-source is installed instead as i can see in package manager
[14:08] <kkkkkkk> i am resinstalling bcmwl-kernel-source
[14:09] <cfhowlett> kkkkkkk same machine here and running 12.04.  wifi was no problem whatsover ever.  used the no internet access method from the broaodcom wiki and 90 seconds in the terminal.  didn't even need a reboot
[14:09] <Pinkamena_D> how can I completely remove network manager and all settings
[14:10] <c0mrad3> .git
[14:10] <c0mrad3> Pici:.git
[14:10] <kkkkkkk> cfhowlett: please provide me the link
[14:10] <cfhowlett> !broadcom|kkkkkkk
[14:11] <kkkkkkk> but cfhowlett my card is not broadcom 43xx
[14:11] <cfhowlett> kkkkkkk ?? I must have misread. sorry
[14:11] <kkkkkkk>  Broadcom Corp. BCM2046B1 USB 2.0 Hub (part of BCM2046 Bluetooth)
[14:12] <karooga> Is it better to use pbuilder or debootstrap directly for building ARM packages on 64bit ubuntu?
[14:12] <Pici> c0mrad3: Then you somehow either cloned into your home, or intialized a git repo there.  If you don't want this, just delete .git (but you will the tracking of any historical changes).
[14:12] <kkkkkkk> cfhowlett: either above or  ID 413c:8160 Dell Computer Corp. Wireless 365 Bluetooth
[14:12] <johan`> I need to get a new HDD for my laptop, is it possible to move over my current Ubuntu installation from my oldHDD to my new one without losing any data/having to reinstall programs and so on?
[14:12] <kkkkkkk> cfhowlett: these are the outputs of lsusb
[14:12] <cfhowlett> kkkkkkk can't help with bluetooth issues ...
[14:13] <kkkkkkk> cfhowlett: i need help regarding wifi
[14:13] <cfhowlett> !clone|johan` IF the HDD's are an exact match, I
[14:13] <kkkkkkk> cfhowlett: i am not sure which one is my  wireless card, that's why i pasted output of these
[14:13] <cfhowlett> kkkkkkk   bluetooth is not wifi ...
[14:13] <akardm> Hi guys! I just updated my Ubuntu 14.04 and now Unity doesnt start anymore. It looks exactly like in this thread: http://askubuntu.com/questions/17381/unity-doesnt-load-no-launcher-no-dash-appears But the top answer doesn't solve my problem. In CCSM the unity plugin is active. I think it is a problem with fglrx/opengl but I don't know how to solve it
[14:14] <cfhowlett> kkkkkkk dell 1545 should have the broadcom 4312      for wifi chipset
[14:14] <iptable> johan` yes if new drive is same or bigger size. Put both in, dd one to the other.
[14:14] <anexit> I solved my issue for the ld.so (iptables .. smacks head!)
[14:14] <kkkkkkk> cfhowlett: i know, please tell me which one is wireless card , but it is not showing in lsusb, or rfkill list
[14:14] <iptable> Then gparted to resize and resizefs to resize filesystem
[14:15] <kkkkkkk> cfhowlett: wait i am pasting lsusb output
[14:15] <johan`> iptable: Alright, I'll do some more research on that then
[14:15] <kkkkkkk> cfhowlett: Bus 003 Device 005: ID 413c:8160 Dell Computer Corp. Wireless 365 Bluetooth
[14:15] <kkkkkkk> Bus 003 Device 004: ID 413c:8162 Dell Computer Corp. Integrated Touchpad [Synaptics]
[14:15] <kkkkkkk> Bus 003 Device 003: ID 413c:8161 Dell Computer Corp. Integrated Keyboard
[14:15] <kkkkkkk> Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0a5c:4500 Broadcom Corp. BCM2046B1 USB 2.0 Hub (part of BCM2046 Bluetooth)
[14:15] <iptable> You will need HDD USB caddy to plug both in to laptop at the same time.
[14:15] <kkkkkkk> tell me which one is bluetooth and which one is wireless
[14:16] <Eggs_> Hey guys im just transferring over a load of data, migrating from ZFS raid types and i noticed some errors saying some files failed, checked dmesg and it says Add. Sense: Unrecovered read error - auto reallocate failed on /dev/sdg, does this mean the drives failing?
[14:16] <kkkkkkk> cfhowlett: please see above
[14:16] <ntz> why are you pasting your touchpad and keyboard when you're talking about your wifi ???
[14:16] <kkkkkkk> ntz: sorrry, while copying, it gets in the middle
[14:16] <kkkkkkk> ntz: it was lsusb output
[14:17] <kkkkkkk> ntz: which one is wifi,  please tell me
[14:17] <e19293001> i can't boot usb after using ubootin
[14:17] <cfhowlett> !broadcom > cfhowlett
[14:17] <iptable> kkkkkk do you have Wi-Fi? It's showing Bluetooth only and a USB hub. No Wi-Fi
[14:17] <e19293001> *unetbootin
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> Eggs_: sounds like it
[14:18] <kkkkkkk> iptable: it means, my wifi adapter is not working
[14:18] <kkkkkkk> iptable: or it is dead
[14:18] <iptable> kkkkkk yes.
[14:18] <iptable> Try another USB port if it's external
[14:18] <cfhowlett> kkkkkkk terminal command:    lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4
[14:18] <kkkkkkk> iptable: thanks, but it is internal
[14:19] <kkkkkkk> cfhowlett: nothing appears
[14:19] <iptable> kkkkkk try lspci. Could be old fashioned. Ie not USB.
[14:19] <kkkkkkk> cfhowlett: no error, no output
[14:19] <Eggs_> ActionParsnip: Damn, guess ill have to deal with RMA ¬_¬
[14:19] <cfhowlett> kkkkkkk I trust wifi works on windows?
[14:19] <g105b> Where are the standard icons for folder-documents, folder-music located?
[14:19] <cfhowlett> kkkkkkk  or during live ubuntu session?
[14:19] <ntz> i didn't reread whole discussion (i'm somewhat offended with your ugly nick), but pastebin please whole output from: `(hwinfo --netcard; lspci -kv; lsusb -v; dmesg | egrep -i netw\|wire) 2>&1 | ix_paste
[14:19] <kkkkkkk> cfhowlett:  it need to be tested on windows
[14:20] <ntz> befere that do: ix_paste() { curl -sfF 'f:1=<-' http://ix.io; }
[14:20] <LordNikon55> g105b: What desktop environment or window manager?
[14:20] <ntz> copy and paste those commands to prevent typos
[14:20] <g105b> LordNikon55: Whatever ships with 14.04
[14:20] <cfhowlett> kkkkkkk suggest you test it on windows.  our 1545's are 5 years old - and components do fail.
[14:20] <kkkkkkk> cfhowlett: no, during live session , same problem, i installed it thinking that i could solve that isssue later
[14:20] <kkkkkkk> cfhowlett: yes, you are right sir
[14:20] <kkkkkkk> or madam
[14:20] <cfhowlett> kkkkkkk right.  dual booting?  run windows
[14:21] <kkkkkkk> cfhowlett: thanks for the help
[14:21] <kkkkkkk> thanks all
[14:21] <kkkkkkk> have a nice day and wonderful night
[14:21] <iptable> kkkkkk probably broken if Kosovo doesn't show it and it's normally supported.
[14:21] <ntz> additionally install hwinfo if it is missing (apt-get install hwinfo)
[14:21] <e19293001> i can't install ubuntu from usb :(
[14:22] <iptable> lspci not Kosovo... Using mobile to itch.
[14:22] <iptable> Irc dammit. Not itch
[14:22] <iptable> +1 on hwinfo
[14:22] <ntz> omg .. this chan is hopeless
[14:23] <ObrienDave> e19293001, what did you use to make the USB?
[14:23] <iptable> ntz why?
[14:23] <cfhowlett> !details|e19293001
[14:23] <c0mrad3> Pici: are u sure that i can delete .git
[14:24] <e19293001> ObrienDave: I used unetbootin and universal usb installer
[14:24] <e19293001> both were unsuccessful
[14:24] <cfhowlett> e19293001 did you sum check your downloaded ISO and the USB?
[14:25] <c0mrad3> Pici: how can i get it back
[14:25] <e19293001> how can I check the check sum?
[14:25] <ObrienDave> e19293001, sounds like a bad D/L. use torrent
[14:25] <iptable> Did you checksum ISO against online?
[14:25] <Pici> c0mrad3: rename it instead then.
[14:25] <cfhowlett> !md5sum|e19293001
[14:25] <e19293001> Obrien: I used torrent
[14:25] <c0mrad3> or can i reinstall it
[14:26] <ObrienDave> e19293001, where did you get the torrent file?
[14:26] <Pici> c0mrad3: there is nothing to reinstall.  You are not removing git itself, just the .git file in your home.
[14:27] <kdeuser56> has anyone preseed late_command working using 14.04? it simply does not get executed
[14:27] <e19293001> ObrienDave: I get it from here, http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ubuntu-14.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[14:27] <kdeuser56> i even tried "d-i preseed/late_command string sudo poweroff;" and it did not shutdown
[14:28] <e19293001> cfhowlett: I mean, how can I perform check sum in windows?
[14:28] <cfhowlett> e19293001 read the link.  there's a note for checking while in windows
[14:28] <ObrienDave> e19293001, ok, that's a good site
[14:28] <LordNikon55> If you use a torrent, you shouldn't need to checksum imo
[14:29] <RusselAth> hiho, how can i find out which session is the default session for a user?
[14:29] <karooga> Anyone using chroot for package building?
[14:29] <ObrienDave> you shouldn't, but you never know
[14:30] <cfhowlett> LordNikon55 torrents are certainly more robust than direct download, but bad torrents do happen.  90 seconds in the terminal to check gives peace of mind on that issue
[14:30] <rnz> I'm confused - when I create(detach) only two empty windows (1 tab per window) of chromium - libreoffice and claws-mail is slowdown, when I attach windows into one window as two tabs - libreoffice and clas-mail speedup...
[14:32] <rnz> If anybody have ubunut 14.04 + openbox + chromium + libreoffice, please - make ^^ and say what you see
[14:32] <rnz> insted openbox may be any window manager w/o composition
[14:33] <rnz> insted openbox may be use any window manager w/o composition
[14:34] <e19293001> hey, why did the check sum says that the file were different?
[14:34] <ObrienDave> bad d/l
[14:34] <ObrienDave> re D/L it
[14:34] <cfhowlett> e19293001 because you got a bad download
[14:35] <ObrienDave> that's why it won't work
[14:35] <e19293001> ObrienDave: how to make it a good download then?
[14:35] <ObrienDave> you have to re-DL it
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> rnz: not seen that. I use openbox + chrome (not chromium)
[14:35] <cfhowlett> e19293001 delete the torrent you have.  do another torrent
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> rnz: I dont use libreoffice or clawsmail
[14:36] <ObrienDave> delete the .iso AND the .torrent files
[14:37] <helmut_> hi
[14:37] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, we should start "*buntu translate" lol
[14:37] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave indeed :)
[14:38] <nickoe> Hello. I do not understand this. I have an 14.04 LTS i686, but I am not allowed to use the networkmanager to connect to my network.
[14:38] <ObrienDave> e19293001, try here --> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[14:38] <nickoe> I am in the groups, myusername adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev netdev lpadmin sambashare
[14:39] <nickoe> I am told, (32) Not authorized to control networking.
[14:39] <nickoe> How can I fix this=
[14:39] <nickoe> ?
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> !away > timrc-afk
[14:45] <loa> !away | tee loa
[14:45] <rnz> ActionParsnip, with chrome - same problem
[14:51] <saurabh_> hi, I am using ubuntu 14.04 x64 with fglrx-updates installed. However, I cannot suspend and resume. Open source graphics drivers crash on log out.
[14:51] <saurabh_> I've tried sudo pm-suspend; which doesn't work either.
[14:54] <wjtaylor> anyone else got static coming through their speakers?
[14:54] <nickoe> wjtaylor: yep
[14:54] <nickoe> I just updated and now I hear that. Can you play anothing else?
[14:54] <saurabh_> wjtaylor, nope
[14:54] <nickoe> saurabh_: have you updated today?
[14:54] <nickoe> like a few hours ago?
[14:55] <saurabh_> nickoe, nope, all I have in updates is firefox. All previous updates were done.
[14:55] <nickoe> I am on 14.04
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> wjtaylor: what is the output of:   lsb_release -sc
[14:56] <nickoe> ActionParsnip: I am on trusty
[14:56] <nickoe> saurabh_: waht are you on?
[14:56] <saurabh_> trusty :)
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> nickoe: try:    killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.config/pulse*
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> nickoe: then wait a few seconds, then try some sound stuff
[14:57] <saurabh_> nickoe, updating..
[14:57] <saurabh_> nickoe, *checking for updates. Only newer firefox though
[14:57] <wjtaylor> ActionParsnip: wheezy
[14:59] <untrothy> I can't seem to find a teamspeak package on Ubuntu 14.04, do I have to install it via the teamspeak wesite?
[14:59] <untrothy> website*
[14:59] <nickoe> ActionParsnip: I have no sound, at least not when I try the test stuff oin the sound thing
[15:00] <SchrodingersScat> untrothy: believe so
[15:00] <saurabh_> untrothy, hydra-gtk? espeak?
[15:00] <SchrodingersScat> untrothy: afaik it's non-free disgusting software
[15:01] <untrothy> Yeah i know, but my team has a ts server and i can't do otherwise, I would have loved to use mumble
[15:01] <untrothy> ok ty I guess I'll have to download it from the website
[15:01] <akardm> hey guys: my display says "the system is running in low graphics mode" how do I fix this?
[15:02] <saurabh_> akardm, press ctrl+alt+F1.
[15:02] <saurabh_> sudo apt-get instal fglrx
[15:02] <saurabh_> akardm, or nvidia drivers. whatever came with you system.
[15:03] <akardm> saurabh_: it says: "errors were encountered while processing"
[15:03] <saurabh_> akardm, did you update cache?
[15:03] <akardm> saurabh_: how do i do that?
[15:04] <saurabh_> akardm, sudo apt-get update
[15:04] <saurabh_> akardm, this will only check for updates
[15:04] <saurabh_> akardm, not install them. should be quick.
[15:04] <saurabh_> akardm, depending on your internet speed.
[15:05] <akardm> saurabh_: it still gives an error. Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returend an rerror code
[15:05] <nickoe> ActionParsnip: But I would rather have my networkmanager access fixed. :/
[15:05] <LonelyDanbo> any idea why an external HD is saying it's read-only when I try to copy a file to it and then when I try to eject it it says it's busy trying to write data but it's not doing anything?
[15:06] <Bootez> test
[15:06] <LonelyDanbo> why did I have to do this an hour before leaving for a trip. :P
[15:06] <LonelyDanbo> hm. tumblerd is keeping it busy.
[15:07] <saurabh_> akardm, I am not sure. But, could be because of login problem. logout and login again.
[15:08] <saurabh_> akardm, you can edit grub configuration and add 'nomodeset' to force system to boot in low graphics.
[15:08] <LonelyDanbo> ah, I see. "Tumbler is a D-Bus service for applications to request thumbnails..."
[15:08] <LonelyDanbo> damn. I can't seem to force it to eject either.
[15:09] <LonelyDanbo> uhg.
[15:09] <LonelyDanbo> I wonder if it's this metal clip that I can't figure out where it goes when I opened my external HD.
[15:11] <saurabh_> nickoe, initramfs updates
[15:11] <saurabh_> nickoe, should that work?
[15:11] <nickoe> saurabh_: What should work+
[15:12] <saurabh_> nickoe, suspend-resume problems.
[15:12]  * stenio depois volto
[15:12] <nickoe> saurabh_: Dunno, I have no idea of that.
[15:12] <akardm> saurabh_: i think i messed up with different fglrx installs and somehow now no script works anymore. is it possible to reset everything to default? To bring the system back to out-of-the-box-status?
[15:13] <e19293001> chuckles
[15:14] <saurabh_> akardm, sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-intel libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-core
[15:14] <saurabh_> akardm, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[15:14] <lucido> whats the name of the arcchive manager executable?
[15:15] <saurabh_> udo update-alternatives --remove gl_conf /usr/lib/fglrx/ld.so.conf
[15:15] <saurabh_> akardm, *sudo
[15:16] <akardm> saurabh_: entering the first commmand gives: unmet dependencies, fglrx-amdcccle depends: fglrx but is not installed
[15:17] <saurabh_> akardm, are all you repositories configured properly?
[15:17] <saurabh_> akardm, get your 'software sources' set to default first. Then update cache which should fix dependencies.
[15:17] <akardm> saurabh_: i dont think I changed anything. I did, however, install the fglrx from the amd site, now with apt
[15:18] <akardm> saurabh_: how do i do that from CL?
[15:18] <saurabh_> akardm, sudo apt-get purge fglrx-*
[15:19] <saurabh_> akardm, this should get your default configuration.
[15:19] <akardm> saurabh_: i deleted the folder /usr/share/ati and used the first command you gave me. This time, it worked
[15:19] <akardm> saurabh_: rebooting now after xorg reset; looks good
[15:20] <nickoe> I do not understand this. I have an 14.04 LTS i686, but I am not allowed to use the networkmanager to connect to my network. I am in the groups, myusername adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev netdev lpadmin sambashare. I am told, (32) Not authorized to control networking. How can I fix this?
[15:20] <akardm> saurabh_: YES, back in unity!
[15:20] <saurabh_> akardm, Yay \0/
[15:21] <akardm> saurabh_: however, it went straight into an error :(
[15:21] <akardm> saurabh_: works as usual, but it started with an error
[15:22] <saurabh_> akardm, what type of error?
[15:22] <saurabh_> akardm, is display still running?
[15:22] <akardm> yes, everything looks normal
[15:22] <darkxploit> hello
[15:22] <akardm> saurabh_: yes, everything looks normal
[15:23] <akardm> saurabh_: but it put an error window on the display and asked me to report it.
[15:23] <saurabh_> akardm, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg
[15:24] <saurabh_> akardm, *xserver-xord
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> nickoe: if you make a new user, is it ok there
[15:24] <nickoe> ActionParsnip: What procedure should I use to create a new user?
[15:25] <saurabh_> ALL: does suspend-resume work in Ubuntu 14.04?
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> !adduser | nickoe
[15:25] <LinuxGuruz> How do you add other web based email to the choices of "launch applications". I want to add then select my Roundcube URL.
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> saurabh_: depends
[15:26] <saurabh_> ActionParsnip, I am running default configuration in 14.04 and it doesn't work.
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> saurabh_: no, it depends on the hardware
[15:27] <saurabh_> ActionParsnip, true.
[15:30] <nickoe> ActionParsnip: btw, I am not able to create a new user from the gui, beacuse I cannot use the "unlock" icon.
[15:31] <DarkStar1> netstat -tlnp isn’t showing the PID/Program name. How can I get it to show this info
[15:31] <DarkStar1> using 12.04
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> nickoe: sudo adduser <username>
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> nickoe: use terminal
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> nickoe: that command is a direct copy / paste from the link ubottu gave.....
[15:32] <nickoe> ActionParsnip: yes, I just did that.
[15:33] <nickoe> I just rebooted to be sure
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> nickoe: ok then run:  passwd <username>    if you havent set a password, log off and log back in as the new user
[15:33] <darkxploit> hello guys can u help me to change my machine hostname
[15:33] <darkxploit>  in the env
[15:36] <DarkStar1> anyone
[15:36] <DarkStar1> ?
[15:37] <Pici> !hostname | darkxploit
[15:37] <CheshireCat> how do I pipe the current date at the end of a wget url?
[15:38] <nickoe> ActionParsnip: I don't even see the nm-applet icon anymore
[15:38] <rena_> DarkStar1: use sudo netstat -tlnp
[15:38] <Pici> CheshireCat: you do something like wget "http://whatever/$(date)"     where date is the output from the date command, see the manpage for format options.  date +%Y%m%d is a good start.
[15:39] <DarkStar1> rena_: tried that. but for some reaon the last column shows blank
[15:39] <Pici> CheshireCat: sorry, 'date' is not the *output* of the date command, it is the date command.
[15:40] <CheshireCat> alright thanks
[15:40] <raggg> hi its all going very streange today, first my second hdd become read only suddenly, took the drive out, checked on another machine, put back in and it is fine, smart self test running now
[15:41] <raggg> now in the nautilus file browser, everything that used to be under 'places' has become under 'bookmarks' instead, i cant move them back, nor can i add new bookmarks...
[15:41] <rena_> DarkStar1: Do you remember doing something before that happened?
[15:42] <Pici> CheshireCat: the folks in #bash might be able to help more if you need to get more complicated :)
[15:42] <DarkStar1> nope. just about finished setting up a test mail server
[15:42] <DarkStar1> on the system
[15:43] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Hello!
[15:43] <raggg> anyone know how i might be able to get my bookmarks back?
[15:43] <raggg> or how i can find out what happened to my disk?
[15:43] <rena_> DarkStar1: Is it blank only for some connections or is it blank for all connections?
[15:43] <Emmanuel_Chanel> anon^_^: Thanks answering me. I tried installing proftpd 1.3.5, the latest stable with making a personal deb package.
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> Emmanuel_Chanel: is there no scope for SFTP?
[15:46] <eronides> I get this error: ./xstata: error while loading shared libraries: libgnomeprint-2-2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[15:48] <Emmanuel_Chanel> ActionParsnip: ???
[15:48] <Emmanuel_Chanel> I use ftp over TLS...
[15:58] <tmick> Quoexl, i am  coming
[16:02] <bumbar> can i extend an alias (call another alias with extra paramters)?
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> bumbar: sure
[16:06] <bumbar> ActionParsnip, alias extended=myalias + 'options' ?
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> bumbar: sure thing
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> bumbar: egrep is an alias, as an example
[16:09] <eronides> ./xstata: error while loading shared libraries: libgnomeprint-2-2.so.0: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> eronides: what is the output of:  file ./xstata
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> eronides: and the output of:   uname -a
[16:12] <eronides> ActionParsnip, ./xstata: ELF 64-bit LSB  executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, stripped
[16:12] <eronides> ActionParsnip, Linux eronides-X202E 3.13.0-29-generic #53-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jun 4 21:00:20 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> eronides: ok 64 bit OS, but 32bit lib
[16:13] <eronides> ActionParsnip, how fix it?
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> eronides: what is the output of:  dpkg -S libgnomeprint-2-2.so.0
[16:15] <eronides> ActionParsnip, libgnomeprint2.2-0: /usr/lib/libgnomeprint-2-2.so.0.1.0 libgnomeprint2.2-0: /usr/lib/libgnomeprint-2-2.so.0
[16:17] <iptable> bloody elfs and their bows and arrows
[16:17] <Glorfindel> Hey!
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> eronides: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> iptable: haha
[16:18] <eronides> ActionParsnip, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[16:18] <Glorfindel> That would be a sword...
[16:18] <iptable> # cat /etc/issue - mouse :P
[16:18] <iptable> ok, I'm better now
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> eronides: install http://launchpadlibrarian.net/86437168/libgnomeprint2.2-0_2.18.8-3ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[16:21] <bilb_ono> does ubuntu use whats in /etc/network/interfaces by default upon startup?
[16:21] <iptable> bilb_ono, yes
[16:22] <iptable> bilb_ono, it's the network start job. it reads /etc/network/interfaces and sets them up as required
[16:25] <bilb_ono> iptable: hmm well that doesn’t seem to be the case for me. Is there some way that I can check the startup logs to see where it is trying to connect?
[16:25] <iptable> connect?
[16:26] <iptable> bilb_ono, pastebin me your interfaces file
[16:32] <diamonds> why is remapping capslock not doable from keyboard settings?
[16:32] <diamonds> this is so common... it should just be a passthru to xmodmap
[16:32] <diamonds> so you could later edit w/xmodmap or w/e but make it easy to set
[16:33] <diamonds> I hate having to google this and futz with xmodmap every new box
[16:35] <dramon> is there any way to stop the screen saver to trigger while i am watching youtube for example?
[16:37] <SchrodingersScat> dramon: you could maybe use xautomation to move the mouse a few pixels every couple seconds
[16:38] <dramon> SchrodingersScat, sound like it is been handle it
[16:38] <Primera> linux newb
[16:38] <Primera> need some assitance
[16:38] <Primera> we currently run Docuwiki appliance on ubuntu
[16:39] <Primera> however when i run apt-get upgrade
[16:39] <Primera> all the repository links fial with could not resolve
[16:39] <dramon> SchrodingersScat, i meant...that is an application made for that purpose...am i right?
[16:40] <SchrodingersScat> !info xautomation | dramon: wasn't made specifically to stop your screensaver, but it can do many things that replace humans
[16:41] <ar_> hello
[16:41] <ar_> any socket programmer here
[16:41] <ar_> any socket programmer here
[16:41] <ar_> any socket programmer here
[16:41] <ar_> any socket programmer here
[16:41] <ar_> any socket programmer here
[16:41] <dramon> SchrodingersScat, thanks...i go check it out
[16:42] <diamonds> alright friends, xmodmap just ain't working for me
[16:42] <diamonds> do I need to restart my session or something after xmodmap -e "keycode 66 = Control_L NoSymbol Control_L"
[16:43] <SchrodingersScat> dramon: have you considered turning off the screensaver or increasing the delay?
[16:43] <diamonds> I do this to remap capslock & it simply doesn't work
[16:43] <manu-22> exit
[16:43] <ejbs> I just bought a new HDD and formatted the whole thing (1TB) into one whole partition and I get a warning about the partition being misaligned by 512 bytes. Is there any tool that will help me partition my HDD in a more 'sensible' way?
[16:45] <dramon> SchrodingersScat, turn it off
[16:45] <diamonds> huh I guess I should just use keysyms and not keycodes (?)
[16:45] <diamonds> keysym Caps_Lock = Control_L
[16:45] <iptable> ejbs, formatted with what? what did you partition it with?
[16:45] <iptable> if it's new, use gparted to partition it correctly
[16:45] <ejbs> iptable: The standard formatting tool (Disk utility) that came with Ubuntu. And yeah, I'm installing Gparted now :/
[16:46] <iptable> ejbs, use that then. gparted, new partition table, partition from scratch and make it format to required filesystem whiel you are at it. then use installer with "custom partitioning" and do that.
[16:46]  * iptable goes to have an evening now
[16:46] <ejbs> iptable: Thanks dude
[16:48] <bilb_ono> iptable: http://bpaste.net/show/eqlGJeoKzDo6XO8pLZAW/
[16:48] <IkaChan> fmfm
[16:48] <iptable> bilb_ono, your file is incorrect
[16:48] <diamonds> I seriously can't believe how complicated remapping capslock is :(
[16:49] <diamonds> examples I find, even in xmodmap man, don't seem to work
[16:49] <pecanha> hello, I'm installing php from source. However when I do php-5.5.13# make install it starts to Installing shared extensions:     /opt/php-5.3.22/lib/p.... everything on version 5.3.22. What could be doing that?. I already check environment variables...
[16:49] <iptable> bilb_ono, compare with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7634569/
[16:49] <bilb_ono> iptable: how incorrect?
[16:49] <iptable> bilb_ono, compare with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7634569/
[16:49] <iptable> bilb_ono, you are missing iface eth0 inet static
[16:50]  * iptable really goes to have an evening now
[16:50] <diamonds> ok maybe I got it (?) "clear lock" is required as well
[16:51] <Lock_Prick> ubuntu
[16:54] <jbwiv> guys, I'll be traveling for some time with no access to the internet. I'd like to mirror ubuntu repos locally to have access to packages with apt-get. I don't know ahead of time what packages I'll need. What's the best way to accomplish this?
[16:55] <bilb_ono> iptable: I think that worked thanks. at least it seems to not freeze on the network connection set on startup. Is there a way to test it?
[16:56] <fishscene> jbwiv: It is my understanding that the repo's are rather large…
[16:57] <jbwiv> fishscene: I'm ok with that. I have a  2 TB drive
[16:57] <iptable> bilb_ono, uhm, restart, after restart to ifconfig; ip route ls and check configuration?
[16:58] <fishscene> jbwiv: This may not be what you are looking for. But it looks to be a starting point and probably has some keywords to help you look. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Rsyncmirror
[16:59] <jbwiv> fishscene: ok, thanks very much
[17:04] <MrGoldfish> I am trying to install ubuntu 14.04 encrypted with LUKS. I have set up sda3 as  crypt-luks and made the physical/virtual/logical volumes for / swap and/home. I have then installed ubuntu using the gui with the proper mount points as well as /boot on unencrypted sda1. After doing this: the computer wont boot into ubuntu. Can anyone help me?
[17:05] <nenonet> test for today
[17:07] <anonymous> can anyone tell me a few hacking tips
[17:07] <bazhang> !ot | anonymous
[17:07] <anonymous> what's this for
[17:08] <bazhang> ubuntu support only anonymous
[17:08] <anonymous> hello
[17:08] <fishscene> Well, assuming hacking=coding… I suggest finding some goals and select an appropriate coding language. Other than that, this is a support channel.
[17:08] <anonymous> guys
[17:09] <Guest46594> hello. i just wanted to try lxqt. after istalling the metapackage and restarting, im stuck whre normally they login would be. need help.
[17:09] <jbwiv> anonymous: jeeess?
[17:09] <anonymous> can anyone tell me how to access another computer
[17:09] <anonymous> not on my network
[17:09] <bazhang> anonymous, no, stop asking
[17:10] <anonymous> i just want to learn
[17:10] <anonymous> come on man plz
[17:10] <bazhang> anonymous, its offtopic here so stop
[17:10] <anonymous> okay
[17:10] <fishscene> anonymous: If you are asking how to ETHICALLY and LEGITIMATELY and not ILLEGALLY accessing another computer (in any location), then we might be able to assist you, depending on the technology involved. Please be more specific though like "need to see screen on one of my computers"
[17:11] <fishscene> We can not and WILL not support anything illegal or bypassing or anything close to that.
[17:11] <fishscene> We = collection of volunteers here
[17:11] <Guest46594> how can i revert it back to the default login_
[17:13] <Guest46594> i tried the recovery console, but i could not even remove software there and i dont know other commands that would help.
[17:16] <Guest46594> hello, is there anyone who could tell me. this should be easy for you...
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> Guest46594: should is a powerful word :-)
[17:20] <ar_> ANYBODY HERE WHO CAN SOLVE MY BERKELEY SOCKETS PROBLEM ?
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> Ar_: with more details and fewer caps, maybe
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> Ar_: we can read lower case
[17:21] <Guest46594> ActionParsnip, im quite shocked, (well not really since that is what i usually get on irc) that noone seem to have answers for the most basic questions one would encounter in an os.
[17:22] <ar_> ActionParsnip: Yesterday I wrote a simple socket server in C it is working fine on my PC but when i Telnet it through some other PC on my Wifi it says could not connect to IP and PORT .
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> Guest46594 : what is your issue please?
[17:22] <Guest46594> ActionParsnip, installed lxqt, after reboot black screen
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> Ar_: if you put Wireshark on the server side do you see the traffic? Can you ping the server?  Can you telnet to other sockets on the same server?
[17:23] <s0x_> hey guys ... im trying to setup an ubuntu server atm but am struggling with setting the domain for it. It gets its ip from an existing DNS but the domain should be set manually. I tried to add a domain entry into /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head so it does add it to resolv.conf. Even though hostname -d or -f does not recognize the domain
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> Guest46594 : if you press CTRL + ALT + T do you get a terminal?
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> Guest46594 : if you log in as a new user is it the same?
[17:24] <s0x_> there is hardly any documentation online how to properly set the domain name ... could anyone give me a bit of support?
[17:24] <Guest46594> ActionParsnip, i cant log in at all. black screen.
[17:24] <__llort__> how long does it typically take for a small application to get accepted into the ubuntu store :(
[17:25] <ar_> ActionParsnip: there is no point about making a ping cause i am running a web server at port 80 on that same address and it working fine on all external systems over my wifi
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> s0x_: post in #ubuntu-server too
[17:25] <formerlyLemons> hello?
[17:25] <s0x_> ActionParsnip: thx ... i just did
[17:25] <formerlyLemons> I need advice: does anyone have a good way to add icons to your desktop?
[17:25]  * __llort__ giggles
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> Guest46594 : so no lightdm shows or did you enable auto login?
[17:26] <IkaChan> fmfm
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> formerlyLemons: icons for what?  Launching applications?
[17:27] <Guest46594> ActionParsnip, no it doesnt, and i got autologin setup on unity.
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> Ar_: id check Wireshark to be sure the server is receiving the packets
[17:27] <Guest46594> ActionParsnip, im just editing the config file
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> Guest46594 : you don't have "autologin setup on Unity" you configure lightdm to autologin,  not Hnity
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> Guest46594 : if you press CTRL + ALT + F1 you can run: killall -u $USER ,and you will drop back to lightdm
[17:29] <Guest46594> ActionParsnip, how should i know what part belong to unity and what to lx. i did it before i installed lx is what i want to say
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> Guest46594 : try the TTY1 trick
[17:30] <Guest46594> autologin session is set unity greeter now
[17:30] <Guest46594> and what is that supposed to mean_ ActionParsnip
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> Guest46594 : which release are you using?
[17:30] <Guest46594> ActionParsnip, 14.04
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> Guest46594 : press CTRL + ALT + F1 like I said earlier
[17:31] <__llort__> So does anyone know how long it typically take for a small application to get accepted into the ubuntu store :(
[17:32] <Guest46594> ok i try that if my config fix didnt work. if nothing works i will be back, thanks  so far.
[17:32] <Guest46594> ActionParsnip,
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> Np :-)
[17:34] <Lock_Prick> Is there documentation were Im might look up wether a NIC is supported by ubunut?
[17:37] <Shunty> hi
[17:37] <Shunty> online anyone?
[17:38] <genii> Lock_Prick: I find the best way is usually to get the vendor:device code for it, then look that up
[17:38] <Shunty> reply guys....
[17:38] <Shunty> anyone knows hindi???
[17:38] <Bashing-om> Lock_Prick: try: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/ .
[17:38] <Shunty> whats that link.?
[17:39] <niterunner> Hello. my first time in. lol
[17:39] <Shunty> mine too...
[17:39] <Lock_Prick> I have done both of those suggestions but there has been no
[17:39] <SchrodingersScat> !in | Shunty
[17:39] <Lock_Prick> defenitive answer
[17:39] <Shunty> hey niterunner!
[17:39] <niterunner> hey Shunty
[17:40] <Shunty> you new on ubuntu?
[17:40] <Shunty> you girl or boy? your name suggests your boy! LOL
[17:40] <not_roasted> Hello friends. I am trying to adjust my roaming sensitivity with wireless on Ubuntu. I dug up an article that spoke about using iwconfig wlan0 sens, and it references two examples, -80 and 2. What I'm wondering is a way to find my current sensitivity (sens) so I can go back to "default" if need be to start over. I don't see it in just iwconfig's output. any other way to see it?
[17:40] <niterunner> yep just had the putter redone after xp went away and went with linux
[17:41] <niterunner> boy lol
[17:41] <www2> can any one help me how i connect my wiimote to ubuntu 14.04
[17:41] <Shunty> hi...age?
[17:41] <niterunner> old
[17:41] <niterunner> over 50
[17:41] <Shunty> cool....old guys also like linux...good to know!
[17:42] <Shunty> How long its been on linux for you?
[17:42] <__llort__> 50 is the new 0
[17:42] <niterunner> I used it when I was working in a data/control center back in late 90's early 2000
[17:42] <bazhang> !ot | Shunty
[17:43] <Shunty> cool to know mike...!
[17:43] <Shunty> Where are you from...?
[17:43] <Bashing-om> Lock_Prick: All else that I can come up with is -> lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga <- and google that output + ubuntu; see what has been reported.
[17:43] <bazhang> Shunty, this is not the chit chat channel
[17:43] <niterunner> how did you get my name?
[17:43] <niterunner> iowa
[17:43] <Shunty> I am Indian....but right now in BRAZIL for FIFA.....!
[17:43] <niterunner> oh oh
[17:44] <niterunner> I guess I need to go
[17:44] <__llort__> Shunty, take the a/s/l -> EfNet,Quakenet, or other dead server :)
[17:44] <Shunty> YEA>...< couple more hours to go.....its wild in here...
[17:44] <niterunner> bazhang needs the space to help others
[17:45] <Shunty> RIO DE JENARIO!!!! SAMBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
[17:45] <niterunner> Shunty - where is a good chat room?
[17:45] <Shunty> idk....its all new for me......I am so drunk right now...
[17:45] <niterunner> lmao
[17:45] <niterunner> cool
[17:45] <niterunner> thanks for the chat
[17:45] <Shunty> my friends left me at this bar.....dont know what i mdoing!!
[17:45] <xangua> !ot Shunty niterunner
[17:46] <niterunner> later :)
[17:46] <xangua> !ot | Shunty niterunner
[17:47] <__llort__> !HowLongWillYouTakeToAcceptMyApplicationRequestAndPutItOnTheUbuntuStore
[17:47] <__llort__> :(
[17:51] <Pici> __llort__: We have no control/knowledge of that here.  You might be able to find some answers in #ubuntu-app-devel
[17:53] <jahayes91> Hi all, would anyone be able to point me in the direction of where I might get some help with isc-dhcp-server on ubuntu server?
[17:54] <bazhang> #ubuntu-server jahayes91
[18:00] <ttffeh> 
[18:01] <ttffeh> Hello
[18:04] <user1234> Hi! I got many picture folders and want to compress them all (~/Pictures/albums -> ~/Pictures/compressed)   how would I achieve that?
[18:04] <c0n3j1t0> Saludos
[18:04] <ObrienDave> user1234, any good archive program will do that
[18:04] <bazhang> !tar | user1234
[18:05] <Impossible> should i install the xorg or nvidia drivers for my gfx card
[18:05] <user1234> I mean picture compress (convert resize or like that) not to create a zip
[18:06] <bazhang> user1234, imagemagick
[18:06] <user1234> yeah, but how to do it ( and how to keep the foldername)
[18:06] <ObrienDave> you mean like a batch converter?
[18:07] <user1234> yeah, folder and filename should be same, but in a different DIR
[18:07] <bazhang> what 's the exact conversion done
[18:08] <user1234> 2k - 4k px size pictures down to 1k or like that
[18:09] <bazhang> perhaps try phatch then user1234
[18:10] <user1234> bazhang: kay, ty
[18:10] <pythonirc101> My apt-get upgrade ==> Unmet dependencies : Try apt-get -f install ==> Errors out. Most of these packages are texlive* packages. I tried to remove these packages but there are other packages that depend on them, so I get in trouble. I just upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04 and started getting this error. Any ideas how to fix this?
[18:11] <Schalla> Hello folks! Any recommendation how to backup all configuration for davecot, apache, php, postfix, proftpd and so on?
[18:11] <pythonirc101> I also tried sudo apt-get purge texlive* tex-common* ==> Unmet dependencies.
[18:15] <pythonirc101> dpkg --configure -a --> Processing halted because there were too many errors?
[18:19] <Teltariat> Hello all.  Silly question: where can I see a read-only view of the source repository where the source packages for all the Ubuntu packages are located?
[18:19] <amorris> When I ssh into a box, I get a large message about system load and landscape. How can I turn off SSH messages? /etc/issue didn't have anything surprising in it.
[18:20] <Teltariat> amorris: you prolly want to look in /etc/update-motd.d
[18:20] <amorris> Teltariat: thanks!
[18:20] <Teltariat> np
[18:24] <ObrienDave> Teltariat, don't know if this is what you need but it's a good start
[18:24] <ObrienDave> http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/
[18:25] <ObrienDave> Teltariat, packages tab gives you an alphabetical list
[18:26] <Teltariat> ObrienDave: nice, that's useful.  I also looking for more advice on what's the best practice for hosting your own package repository and how you organize source packages in source control
[18:28] <Bjerrk> I have a problem: /etc/rc.local is not being run although the executable bit is set
[18:30] <voot> i have an ubuntu server acting as a 6in4 router with IPv6. Radvd is giving out IPv6 addresses to the network clients, but the server's eth0 link-local address is being handed as the router...which doesn't work. how do i get the eth0 interface a valid IPv6 address?
[18:31] <moreno_> hola zorras
[18:47] <rick111> how do i uninstall a program from ubuntu via terminal?
[18:47] <rick111> i tried sudo apt-get remove program but it says it cant find the program
[18:48] <Sec> It's not there then, or you didn't get the name right
[18:48] <Sec> Try dpkg -l | grep <name here> to search for it
[18:48] <rick111> the name of the folder in the directory is netbeans-8.0
[18:48] <Aki-Thinkpad> Hey I am trying to get ubuntu to work with my usb keyboard
[18:48] <Sec> Plug it in Aki-Thinkpad.
[18:48] <Aki-Thinkpad> piano keyboard
[18:49] <Aki-Thinkpad> lol, yah, piano keyboard :P
[18:49] <xangua> rick111: you mean you compiled it¿
[18:49] <Aki-Thinkpad> never done this.
[18:49] <Aki-Thinkpad> I plugged the usb extension in, but I have no idea what to do next. I am trying to use this with booster
[18:50] <rick111> i used dpkg -l |gret filename and nothing happened...
[18:50] <rick111> maybe ive got the file name wrong but thats the rub, how do i know what the complete name of the file is?
[18:50] <rick111> i know its netbeans
[18:51] <Sec> rick111: grep not gret
[18:51] <rick111> by the way has anyone managed to get netbeans 8.0 to work on ubuntu 14?
[18:51] <Sec> !netbeans
[18:51] <Sec> rick111: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Netbeans
[18:52] <xangua> rick111: again, did you installed it from repositories or compiled the program?
[18:52] <rick111> first i tried to isntall it from the software center.. that version didnt work so i downloaded netbeans 8.0 and installed it via the terminal
[18:53] <SpinningWheels> how do you figure out which device is ata9 in dmsg?
[18:54] <Sec> rick111: did you follow the documentation in the link I mentioned?
[18:54] <rick111> reading it now sec
[19:00] <jleclanche> How can I reach sysadmins of ubuntu.com/ubuntuforums.org?
[19:01] <Armag3dd0n24> I installed 32bit Ubuntu 14.04 on my compaq mini CQ10-500EA but when it's on the battery power, there's no option to change screen brightness. am I doing something wrong??????
[19:03] <uflaig> hello everyone, having a problem installing ubuntu atm
[19:03] <uflaig> for some reason I can't select or see to select an efi partition, how come?
[19:04] <uflaig> I just saw a efi parition on the same hardware a few weeks ago
[19:05] <Armag3dd0n24> uflaig; what ubuntu release?
[19:05] <uflaig> Armag3dd0n24: must be 14.04
[19:05] <Armag3dd0n24> must be?
[19:05] <uflaig> Armag3dd0n24: not sure atm
[19:06] <ha1dfo> Hi all. There is a kernel module (UAS) that was removed somewhere between Quantal and Raring. Can you help me how can I find out why it got removed?
[19:06] <Armag3dd0n24> then not sure how to help ;)
[19:06] <uflaig> Armag3dd0n24: how come I can't google for me problem
[19:06] <uflaig> it's like I'm the only one on the planet which is facing this issue
[19:06] <uflaig> my problem*
[19:06] <ha1dfo> I need this because I am trying to use USB3 attached SSD, and UASP is needed for TRIM support
[19:07] <ObrienDave> uflaig, because you're not sure what version you're running
[19:07] <uflaig> ObrienDave: that doesn't make any sense
[19:08] <Armag3dd0n24> nope, no. nah.
[19:10] <Sec> The fuck just happened
[19:10] <Beldar> !language | Sec
[19:12] <flekex> just got this old pc up and running with ubuntu LTS <3 and it's neat !
[19:13] <rawrmonster> is there a way to speed up ubuntu software center?
[19:13] <Michael120> rawrmonster: you could just use apt-get in the termina
[19:13] <Michael120> rawrmonster: terminal*
[19:15] <Michael120> Need some help; everytime I format a disk (in ubuntu) it won't show up in windows, even if I use nfts or a blank partition. The label is blank and no drive letter will show up :/ | using fdisk and mkfs.nfts
[19:16] <ObrienDave> fdisk won't format afaik
[19:16] <eipieqng1> Hello beutiful people. Quick noob question. I am trying to configure sshd. What does the %h mean in AuthorizedKeysFile      %h/.ssh/authorized_keys
[19:16] <Michael120> ObrienDave: no, but I'm using mkfs.nfts for that
[19:16] <Michael120> ObrienDave: I'm using fdisk for the partitioning
[19:16] <ratskin> eipieqng1: your home dir
[19:17] <Pici> Michael120: Are you looking in the window's disk utility? iirc, you need to 'mount' the disk there after creating it. It won't show up as a drive letter automatically.
[19:17] <ratskin> eipieqng1: i think
[19:17] <Michael120> Pici: disk utility? hm
[19:17] <Michael120> Pici: oh, disk management, ya. thats where I'm finding the disk
[19:18] <Michael120> Pici: but no format, no label, nothing. just blank
[19:18] <eipieqng1> ratskin, Thanks.
[19:19] <Michael120> this is what windows shows: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/72586
[19:20] <rawrmonster> Michael120: Sorry had to go away to do something. I do use apt-get because ubuntu-software-center is so slow, but what is the point of shipping it if the Distro doesn't want it to be an option. If i wanted to apt-get in terminal every time i wanted to install something i might have well stuck with gentoo, but i wanted things for the most part to work with out having to configure everything.
[19:22] <Michael120> rawrmonster: configure? eh, idk. I'm not a super-user, but apt-get is all I use :/ . the software centers are nice for looking up packages though.
[19:22] <ObrienDave> Michael120, looks like NTFS did not 'take'
[19:22] <Michael120> ObrienDave: ?
[19:23] <rawrmonster> Michael120: to my knowledge there is only one way to install paid software
[19:23] <ObrienDave> your pic shows the partition info but no NTFS format
[19:23] <Michael120> ObrienDave: that was the second try with no format, forgot, sorry
[19:24] <ObrienDave> np
[19:24] <Michael120> ObrienDave: still won't let me format it though.
[19:24] <Michael120> *on windows
[19:24] <Michael120> think I should try fat or something? or again for nfts?
[19:24] <Beldar> Michael120, Probably something there running the OS?
[19:24] <Michael120> Beldar: ??
[19:24] <ObrienDave> have you tried going through device manager?
[19:25] <Michael120> ObrienDave: ya
[19:25] <Beldar> Michael120, This a usb, and external or internal?
[19:25] <Michael120> Beldar: external
[19:25] <spitzi> Hello. I seem to misunderstand rwx permissions when it comes to directories. I've created directory bar, and put in it a file foo. Using chmod, I gave permissions 666 (i.e. all but execute) to directory bar and 777 to file foo. As I understood, this should've sufficed for "rm ./bar/foo" to succeed, but I got "permission denied". Only after adding execute permissions on bar was I able to delete foo. Why?
[19:25] <Beldar> Michael120, Ah, why not use a live ubuntu?
[19:25] <Beldar> or a live gparted
[19:25] <Michael120> Beldar: ???. I'm formating on ubuntu to try to get it to work on windows
[19:26] <Michael120> using ubuntu server*
[19:26] <Sparck> hola alguien sabe como hacer rapido e sistema de ubuntu?
[19:26] <Michael120> so, not exactly user friendly but  it works
[19:26] <Beldar> Michael120, If you have a gui like gparted use it and make sure unmounted
[19:26] <Michael120> Beldar: it is
[19:26] <Sparck> ban
[19:26] <Sparck> dban
[19:26] <Beldar> !es | Sparck
[19:26] <Pici> spitzi: directories need to have execute access in order to be traversed.
[19:26] <Beldar> Michael120, Gparted, do you have a desktop?
[19:27] <Michael120> Beldar: no, its ubuntu server, though I could just boot up a live  cd
[19:27] <Sparck> iam not speacke english
[19:27] <ratskin> spitzi: I'm interested to know the answer to that too
[19:27] <Michael120> Beldar: not sure it would help to
[19:27] <Michael120> tho*
[19:27] <Beldar> Michael120, I would if this is not working is all.
[19:27] <Michael120> Beldar: k. maybe its just a broken disk
[19:27] <Sparck> what?
[19:27] <Michael120> Beldar: its old
[19:27] <Beldar> Sparck, Engliah channel
[19:27] <Beldar> English*
[19:28] <Sparck> y uno de spanish
[19:28] <Sparck> ??
[19:28] <Pici> !es | Sparck
[19:28] <ObrienDave> !es | Sparck
[19:28] <Michael120> ^^
[19:28] <Sparck> fuck !es
[19:28] <Sparck> ????
[19:28] <ObrienDave> adios LOL
[19:29] <Michael120> thanks for the help, I'll try it on a desktop later. o/
[19:29] <ratskin> spitzi:
[19:29] <ratskin> When applying permissions to directories on Linux, the permission bits have different meanings than on regular files.
[19:29] <ratskin> The write bit allows the affected user to create, rename, or delete files within the directory, and modify the directory's attributes The read bit allows the affected user to list the files within the directory The execute bit allows the affected user to enter the directory, and access files and directories inside
[19:29] <ratskin>  The sticky bit statesthat files and directories within that directory may only be del eted or renamed by their owner (or root)
[19:29] <Beldar> Michael120, I would just work through variables known to work, the live has a smart check, not sure it will read the external but you can run one from a cli.
[19:29] <ratskin> oops sorry. i didn't mean to spam
[19:31] <spitzi> ratskin: then I don't understand, by what you wrote, a write flag should've sufficed for unlinking a file from a directory. No?
[19:31] <failedRaidGuy> Hi, can anyone help me? I'm having problems with restoring an mdadm raid 6
[19:32] <justinsd> Hey guys.
[19:32] <ratskin> spitzi: i assume it's that you wouldn't be able to enter it to perform the delete, so you need both
[19:33] <justinsd> Quick question, I have added a file to the root group, and my user is in the root group. The root group has write permissions.
[19:33] <justinsd> But I am still unable to write the file, any idea why
[19:33] <ratskin> spitzi: emphasise 'assume' :)
[19:33] <spitzi> ratskin: bizzare. Then is there any sense in setting only a write permission for a directory, without execute permission?
[19:35] <ratskin> spitzi: i'm not sure. perhaps not, or maybe you could arrive there via another means, like a link
[19:36] <ratskin> spitzi: no, that doesn't work. no idea. would like to know too. obviously it could still make sense to have execute, but not write permissions
[19:37] <Guest82290> How do I get FreeTuxTV to work?  All channels, TV or radio, don't work
[19:38] <Guest82290> I'm using Ubuntu 14.04 - 64 bit
[19:42] <Sparck> joder
[19:43] <Pici> Sparck: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.
[19:47] <JOY> wassup !!!!!!!
[19:47] <mnt-cr4> hi every body. is there anyway to customize the list of desktop managers in lightdm? I want to remove some items from the sessions
[19:47] <JOY> how to become superuser to execute a installer ?
[19:49] <kdeuser56> mnt-cr4: yeah there is
[19:49] <rage> anyone here?
[19:50] <ObrienDave> nope
[19:50] <kdeuser56> rage: no we are not anyone
[19:51] <zlevetsky> hi all
[19:51] <mnt-cr4> kdeuser56, I am just trying renaming the files in /usr/share/xsessions to *.backup. is that th way?
[19:51] <zlevetsky> i need help
[19:51] <kdeuser56> mnt-cr4: http://askubuntu.com/questions/81161/how-to-remove-session-entries-from-lightdm => yes
[19:51] <mnt-cr4> I will test it now!
[19:51] <mnt-cr4> kdeuser56, thanks
[19:52] <kdeuser56> zlevetsky: do not ask to ask or say you need help ... simply tell us what you need
[19:52] <mnt-cr4> kdeuser56, how to change the input method in kde? the options are inactve. I want to add persian as a language... and can I use caps lock or alt-shift as the language switcher in kde?
[19:53] <kdeuser56> mnt-cr4: what options are inactive? in lightdm?
[19:53] <zlevetsky> ok kdeuser56
[19:53] <ObrienDave> !ask | zlevetsky
[19:54] <zlevetsky> i want to know about ubuntu on backtrack
[19:55] <kdeuser56> zlevetsky: I want to know the solution of the riemann hypothesis ...
[19:55] <phunyguy> !backtrack | zlevetsky
[19:56] <zlevetsky> tq ubottu
[19:56] <baprath> !mint
[20:06] <Bashing-om> JOY: One gains administrative priveleges with the use of "sudo", and issueing your password. ( sudo <command> ) .
[20:06] <mnt-cr4_> back
[20:07] <Beldar> Guest31810, You are registered why this nick?
[20:07] <JOY_> Bashing-om  i want to run a installer , but this sudo cmd not executing this run file
[20:08] <spitzi> Thanks all, bye.
[20:08] <JOY_> while i click on the intaller file it is saying somethingl like need admin privileges... superuser n all
[20:08] <KingOfPotato> Beldar: no, just messing around in another channel
[20:09] <KingOfPotato> apparently KIM_JONG_UN was already registered
[20:09] <dieud2609> Ubuntu for Android, it's normal os?
[20:09] <Beldar> dieud2609, context what Ubuntu for Android
[20:10] <Bashing-om> JOY_: I wish I could say, but I have no experience with a "click" on installer. Do not know what is going on there.
[20:11] <dieud2609> I just want to know if it's possible to install Linux like Ubuntu in Android phone ?
[20:11] <Beldar> JOY_, What are you installing and are you sure it's not in the ubuntu repos?
[20:12] <Beldar> !touch | dieud2609
[20:12] <JOY_> actually its xampp software
[20:12] <JOY_> xampp-linux-x64-1.8.3-4-installer.run
[20:14] <Beldar> JOY_, Thanks cannot help, be sure to use prefaces of whom you address of nick.
[20:15] <hotdisk> hi ppl, a question... does ctrl-z on a tar process also stop disk I/O ? i've got a system who's load is > 40 which i need to let cool off a bit.
[20:15] <streulma> hello, has someone the Raling RT3290 wireless card? And also bluetooth not working?
[20:15] <streulma> I'm asking about 14.04 and 3.13 kernel
[20:15] <JOY_> Bashing-om  , Beldar while clicking this executable file it show this error " this intaller requires root privileges . please become superuser before executing the installer
[20:16] <streulma> I think this driver isn't supported on Linux by Ralink :(
[20:18] <Beldar> streulma, Many are reverse engineered that do,
[20:18] <genii> streulma: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1049466
[20:20] <Beldar> streulma, I would get usb that plugs and plays many on amazon less than 10$ that state working in linux and ubuntu.
[20:21] <Beldar> at least to have some area to work in E.g a working wifi
[20:21] <JOY_> Beldar , Bashing-om while i tried sudo it shows this output :- sudo: xampp-linux-x64-1.8.3.4-installer.run: command not found
[20:22] <znf> Can someone give me a hint of how to configure the network interface with dhcp on a server? I did edit /etc/networking/interfaces but it doesn't do anything after reboot (auto eth0 && iface eth0 inet dhcp), just like I haven't touched it
[20:22] <Trudko> Hi guys, I see in system monitor that my cpu is  working hard  from 50 - 100 percent but when I check proccesse there isnt process which takes some much cpu , where should I look next?
[20:23] <Guest32538> I'm currently on a LiveCD. I've dd:ed over my old HDD to a new one and installed GRUB but I still have my old boot list on start up, how do I make GRUB detect my new boot list?
[20:24] <Bashing-om> JOY_: Mind you I do not know what this installer is, but ya might try : cd to the directory where the file is located, and sudo ./xampp-linux-x64-1.8.3.4-installer.run ( be aware I have serious doubts about a .run file !).
[20:25] <JOY_> ya Bashing-om ... i jst tried that only .... it shows command not found !!
[20:26] <johannu> I just dd:ed over my old HDD to my new one and installed grub2 on it. Everything works fine *except* the "boot list" shown at boot (where I can choose which OS to start) is outdated, how do I update that?
[20:26] <Bashing-om> JOY_: at where you think is the correct directory do -> ls -la <- is the file listed ?
[20:26] <Beldar> johannu, sudo update-grub
[20:27] <johannu> Beldar: Oh right, I'm on my LiveCD, how do I make it so that I update-grub on my HDD and not the LiveCD stuff?
[20:28] <JOY_> Bashing-om /home/del
[20:28] <JOY_>  this is the directory where the file is present
[20:28] <Bashing-om> JOY_: ls-la ? show the file in question ?
[20:28] <Beldar> johannu, A chroot or I would just use supergrub to boot to the OS and load the mbr if needed and update-grub  http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[20:29] <Beldar> either work supergrub is easier
[20:30] <Beldar> !chroot
[20:30] <Beldar> johannu, ^^^^^^^^
[20:31] <johannu> Beldar: Thanks!
[20:31] <Beldar> johannu, No problem. ;)
[20:32]  * daftykins tips the hat to Beldar 
[20:33] <Aki-Thinkpad> situational irony; I just finished installing the piano stuff to ubuntu, and the wallpaper changed to sheet music
[20:33] <Aki-Thinkpad> I <3 ubuntu
[20:33] <Beldar> daftykins, I can manually boot and all the other voodoo, supergrub just works. ;)
[20:35] <daftykins> Beldar: oh it was just a hello ^_^
[20:35] <Beldar> Doh
[20:35] <trohrt> is there a way that i can make the audio of an application only play on one side of my headphones, while i have music in the other side?
[20:39] <cojerico> hoa
[20:44] <trijntje> trohrt, I dont think you want that. The human brain can easily distinguish two different sounds going into both ears
[20:45] <trijntje> so there is no point in splitting it up into two different ears ;)
[20:46] <Beldar> trohrt, I have no idea but can google, not sure if this will work for you searched with, ubuntu combine two audio  http://askubuntu.com/questions/419256/how-do-i-combine-two-audio-inputs
[20:49] <Beldar> split rather than combine brought up primarily splitting tracks
[20:51] <Beldar> trijntje, And it are few that could actually listen to both really, like multitasking it does not actually exist in efficiency.
[20:51] <iheartkode> Question:  When I go to switch user and once at the user selection screen I click my name then click login.. it goes to a black screen then goes back to the user list.
[20:51] <iheartkode> Fresh install of  ubuntu 14.04
[20:52] <naegling> hey so I'm trying to hide the status bar by dimming it like so --> http://pastebin.com/EQ8uRqVV
[20:52] <naegling> but everytime I touch the screen it comes back on again
[20:52] <naegling> how do I keep it off?
[20:53] <Beldar> iheartkode, switch user from what to what and did that account work ever? Have you run an update/upgreda and aded any graphic drivers or were added in an upgrade?
[20:53] <Beldar> s/upgraded/added
[20:53] <Bashing-om> iheartkode: Maybe -> ls -la ~/.ICEauthority , ls -la ~/.Xauthority <- the owner and group is 'you' ??
[20:53] <iheartkode> I have 2 accounts and both worked. I go to the gear up top right menu.  and click a user name to switch too.
[20:54] <iheartkode> Both Accounts are Admin
[20:54] <Beldar> iheartkode, What happened between working and not working?
[20:54] <iheartkode> If I reboot it works again. then fails to login.  the video is ATI
[20:55] <iheartkode> The problem is when switching.. it takes about 60 seconds to switch or show the user list
[20:55] <iheartkode> I am using AMD propietary drivers
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> iheartkode: have you seen Bashing-om's suggestion?
[20:55] <iheartkode> SOrry Let me try
[20:56] <iheartkode> -rw------- 1 mark mark 2680 Jun 12 13:46 /home/mark/.ICEauthority
[20:56] <iheartkode> -rw------- 1 mark mark 165 Jun 12 13:46 /home/mark/.Xauthority
[20:57] <iheartkode> Bashing-om,  ^^
[20:57] <iheartkode> It
[20:57] <Bashing-om> iheartkode: Welp, that is correct, you have authorization to the desk top. Right off hand I have no other thought.
[20:58] <iheartkode> it's wierd when I click on a user to login.. it goes black and back to the list.
[20:58] <iheartkode> ok Bashing-om
[20:58] <Beldar> iheartkode, Did you add the adm, then run a update/upgrade?
[20:58] <iheartkode> adm?
[20:58] <Beldar> iheartkode, sorry AMD
[20:59] <iheartkode> Yes I have ran update but not upgrade
[20:59] <Beldar> iheartkode, IN distro upgrade, from apt it is a update/upgrade
[20:59] <iheartkode> I am doing upgrade right now.
[21:00] <iheartkode> Also I had to disable apport becuase it was running at 98% cpu
[21:00] <Beldar> iheartkode, Did you install the AMD drivers than ran a in OS update/upgrade then have this issue?
[21:01] <Beldar> iheartkode, Not sure if this is the issue, however proprietary graphics often do not follow kernel upgrades is the issue here
[21:01] <iheartkode> Is there a known bug for switching user accounts in ubuntu 14.04?
[21:02] <iheartkode> I have steam and play games. Will it effect it if I use the OSI Drivers?
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> iheartkode: never had to. I just log off and log in as other users as needed
[21:02] <timct> hi all
[21:03] <iheartkode> I guess I will just log off each time until I find a fix
[21:03] <iheartkode> Thank you for trying guys.
[21:04] <Kolibir> Hello people
[21:05] <iheartkode> Hello
[21:05] <Kolibir> I have extracted clonezilla to my usb drive
[21:05] <Kolibir> but now I have to boot my pc from it
[21:05] <timct> has the network naming protocol  changed as my network cards have changes to 4p1p. If I change it to eth0 it does not load
[21:05] <Kolibir> and it doesn't find it
[21:05] <Kolibir> just says no OS
[21:06] <Kolibir> any thoughts+
[21:06] <Kolibir> ?
[21:06] <daftykins> Kolibir: you know you can't just put the files on it right? you have to make it properly as a boot device
[21:06] <daftykins> Kolibir: what's your current OS for creating the flash drive with the downloaded ISO?
[21:06] <Kolibir> ubuntu 14.something
[21:06] <timct> it is a clean install
[21:06] <Kolibir> yeo
[21:06] <Kolibir> yep
[21:07] <Kolibir> but this hardrive is failing
[21:07] <iheartkode> 14.04?
[21:07] <Kolibir> yep
[21:07] <Kolibir> it's going to break in a wekk
[21:07] <Beldar> Kolibir, clonezilla has a boot-table disc
[21:07] <iheartkode> Back it up lol
[21:07] <Kolibir> i want to back it up into a cd disc
[21:08] <daftykins> onto CD? no that's not going to happen
[21:08] <daftykins> not with clonezilla
[21:08] <Beldar> Kolibir, 700mb is not enough space
[21:08] <Kolibir> dvd or something?
[21:08] <Ben64> Kolibir: if you want to backup like that, boot ubuntu live usb
[21:08] <daftykins> Kolibir: i thought your plan was to go disk -> disk ?
[21:08] <Kolibir> no
[21:08] <Kolibir> hard drive to disk to hard driwe
[21:09] <daftykins> is it a laptop or something? can't have both in at once?
[21:09] <Kolibir> laptop
[21:09] <Kolibir> ye
[21:09] <Ben64> how big is the source drive?
[21:09] <daftykins> ah i see.
[21:09] <Kolibir> 360gb source drive
[21:09] <daftykins> Kolibir: how big is your /home folder? backing up your user data would make more sense
[21:09] <Kolibir> but it contains only OS
[21:09] <Kolibir> it's new
[21:09] <Ben64> if its new then don't worry about backing it up?
[21:10] <Kolibir> i installed it 2 weeks ago
[21:10] <Kolibir> i have made configurations
[21:10] <Kolibir> don't want to make them all again ;(
[21:10] <daftykins> like... what?
[21:10] <Ben64> buy a usb adapter for hard drives, transfer from drive to drive
[21:10] <Kolibir> programs, updates etc
[21:11] <daftykins> Kolibir: open a terminal and run "du -h" then tell us how big the # is at the very last line
[21:11] <daftykins> (beside the . )
[21:11] <Kolibir> 975
[21:11] <daftykins> MB ?
[21:11] <Kolibir> ye
[21:11] <daftykins> so one DVD will do it
[21:12] <Kolibir> most likely
[21:12] <Ben64> uh, definitely.
[21:12] <daftykins> you can easily write /home/username to DVD from a LiveCD instead then
[21:12] <daftykins> do you already have a USB flash drive made up with ubuntu ?
[21:12] <Ben64> but you need to boot ubuntu live usb, or just put the 975MB onto the flash drive
[21:14] <Kolibir> hmm
[21:14] <Kolibir> i just thought it would be easy to just save this OS to a disc, and install it again to the new hard driwe
[21:14] <Kolibir> I have no experience in ubuntu
[21:14] <Ben64> your home folder is where all your settings are
[21:15] <daftykins> Kolibir: think of it like backing up your C:\Users\username\ folder from Windows, if that's what you're used to.
[21:15] <daftykins> Kolibir: by the way, how do you know the disk is bad? is SMART info saying it's failing?
[21:15] <Kolibir> everytime i boot this pc up
[21:15] <Kolibir> a warning message appears
[21:16] <Ben64> what does it say?
[21:16] <Kolibir> and when  this laptop had windows, it warned about hard drive failing
[21:16] <Kolibir> disc failing, please back up files
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> Kolibir: then replace it.....
[21:16] <Kolibir> or something like that
[21:16] <Kolibir> no shit?
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> No
[21:17] <Kolibir> ok
[21:17] <Kolibir> fine!
[21:17] <Ben64> Kolibir: pastebin "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda"
[21:17] <Kolibir> what does it do?
[21:17] <anonymous> Abend
[21:17] <Ben64> Kolibir: checks the smart data
[21:17] <anon^_^> dumps smart diagnostic log off the hard drive
[21:19] <Kolibir> no command smartctl
[21:19] <Ben64> then run the apt-get line it suggests
[21:20] <ikonia> why not just backup the drive now and swap it out if you've had warnings its failing
[21:20] <ikonia> stop messing around and deal with it
[21:20] <mike_papa> Hello. "apt-get remove" removes binaries, "apt-get purge" removes binaries and other (config) files. Do I get it right? And my question actually is, is there aptg-et command that does remvoe configuration without removing binaries? Something like reset package? Purge and install, but without need of downloading package again?
[21:20] <Kolibir> ikonia: that is why i'm here if you have read my msgs for the last 10 mins
[21:21] <daftykins> Kolibir: sudp apt-get install smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda
[21:21] <ikonia> then why are you messing around with smart tools ?
[21:21] <ikonia> just back up the device and get it out of the machine
[21:21] <daftykins> because we're having a conversation, and you came in too late
[21:21] <Ben64> seems like the drive has worked for a while already
[21:21] <Ben64> drives aren't usually "failing" for so long
[21:21] <stasiomod> How do you install Java on Firefox?
[21:21] <ikonia> I'm clearly missing something here
[21:22] <Kolibir> Ben64: now it dumped the info
[21:23] <Kolibir> what am I looking for?
[21:23] <daftykins> Kolibir: so, do you have boot media?
[21:23] <Ben64> Kolibir: ok, go to pastebin.com, paste it all there, and give us the url
[21:23] <daftykins> Kolibir: run "sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit"
[21:23] <daftykins> then paste us the link
[21:25] <Kolibir> http://pastebin.com/ANna0ASC
[21:26] <Kolibir> pastebinit
[21:26] <Ben64> Kolibir: yep, so boot ubuntu liveusb and save all your data now
[21:27] <Kolibir> O.o
[21:28] <daftykins> Kolibir: ooh yes that's a very bad one.
[21:28] <daftykins> Kolibir: so i shall ask for the third time. Do you have ubuntu boot media? (USB)
[21:29] <Kolibir> god i thought I was good with computers, but seems like i'm an idiot
[21:29] <Ben64> Kolibir: nope, your drive is just bad
[21:30] <Kolibir> i don't even know what do you mean with ubuntu boot media. The disc I installed ubuntu with? the usb drive I have clonezilla in=
[21:30] <Kolibir> ?
[21:31] <Ben64> Kolibir: well if you want to backup to cd/dvd, then the cd version of ubuntu probably won't work
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> Kolibir: you can get a 320Gb drive new for 30 quid. Nice and cheap
[21:33] <daftykins> Kolibir: the disc you installed ubuntu with yes
[21:33] <daftykins> Kolibir: obviously you won't be able to boot into a live session with a disc *and* write data to DVD with the same optical drive :)
[21:33] <rjoosen> set nick ebbe1997
[21:34] <Kolibir> I thought i can boot clonezilla from USB drive and write my OS to dvd
[21:34] <daftykins> rjoosen: use the status window ;)
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> rjoosen: needs a leading slash
[21:34] <daftykins> Kolibir: it's a waste of time.
[21:34] <daftykins> Kolibir: just backup your /home/user and all will be well
[21:34] <skinux> Is there a program I can use from within Unity desktop to desk to see if my hard drive is going bad?
[21:34] <daftykins> skinux: yes, 'Disks'
[21:35] <skinux> It says error mounting filesystem because it is busy.
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> skinux: smartctl
[21:36] <Kolibir> hmm the error msg says: Drive failure in 24hrs =DD
[21:36] <Ben64> Kolibir: yes. so stop wasting time and back up now
[21:36] <Kolibir> yep yep
[21:36] <skinux> Huh?
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> skinux: to test it fully, the ultimate boot cd has the tools from the major drive manufacturers and you can use that to test the drive (takes a while)
[21:37] <adamcunnington> How can I only create a dir at a location if it doesn't already exist with a bash script
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> adamcunnington: mkdir -p /path/to/folder
[21:37] <fishscene> mkdir ?
[21:37] <adamcunnington> ActionParsnip: ah -p thanks!
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> adamcunnington: -p will make the parent folders if they dont exist as well
[21:38] <oooooo> I have a problem while installing ubuntu on my Intel laptop.  It always install 32bit, I want to install 64 bit.  IS there any way I can force ubuntu to install 64 bit version?  It is ubuntu 13.10 I want to use.
[21:38] <skinux> So, there isn't any way to test the drive while I'm using the system?
[21:38] <daftykins> Kolibir: so make up your flash drive with ubuntu desktop
[21:38] <Ben64> oooooo: download the 64bit cd
[21:38] <usuario> leuzinhomafia@hotmai.com
[21:38] <daftykins> skinux: you're using the program wrong
[21:38] <Ben64> skinux: smartctl can check the smart data of drives
[21:38] <usuario> oi
[21:39] <daftykins> skinux: i can tell you how to use the command line one, but you want a GUI one is it?
[21:39] <usuario> quem que namorar
[21:39] <usuario> ?????
[21:39] <kostkon> oooooo, support for 13.10 will end in July.
[21:39] <oooooo> ben64 I can only find a 32/64 bit on same cd, only AMD have spearate 64 bit downloads
[21:39] <daftykins> usuario: english only, #ubuntu-es if you want spanish or whatever language you speak
[21:39] <davidparker> Hi everyone. I was wondering how I can use an ubuntu OS to be on all the time and act as a server for my radio station's audio. I want to log all input audio from an analogue source and serve it to the internet as a digital stream. I also want to take that audio and divide it into 30 minute or 1 hour discrete mp3 files, and then I want to serve up the last 3 to 6 months of those mp3 files to...
[21:39] <davidparker> ...an online directory. Does anyone have any suggestions about what Ubuntu software to use for this?
[21:39] <Ben64> oooooo: amd64 is the 64bit version
[21:39] <Kolibir> thank you for your efforts
[21:39] <Kolibir> ben64 and daftykins
[21:39] <oooooo> will AMD64 work on an intel processor?
[21:39] <Ben64> oooooo: 32 and 64 are not on the same disc
[21:39] <Ben64> oooooo: yes
[21:39] <oooooo> aha
[21:39] <oooooo> alright
[21:40] <streulma_> ooooooh
[21:40] <oooooo> Thanks for the help
[21:40] <streulma_> bluetooth is working
[21:40] <Ben64> oooooo: no problem
[21:40] <streulma_> but it won't pair with the phone S4
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> davidparker: you could use it as a fileserver if thats what you mean....or do you want to run the radio station off it toon
[21:40] <ikonia> forget iphones....
[21:40] <ikonia> they do not work with linux
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: depends in what way ;)
[21:41] <ikonia> nah, they don't work
[21:41] <ikonia> it's just a waste of time
[21:41] <mike_papa> ikonia: isn't it ironic? iOS is unix-based... ;)
[21:41] <ikonia> not really
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: if you want to transfer files between desktop and iphone you can use sftp (for example)
[21:42] <ikonia> apple make the compatability quite clear
[21:42] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: no you can't
[21:42] <davidparker> ActionParsnip: Yes, a fileserver would be fine. But It should also run the software that creates the audio files. It should also process the analog stream of audio into a digital file like .m3u and serve it to the internet. Do you have any recommendations of what software to use?
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: whyever not
[21:42] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: the device has to be jail broken
[21:42] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: because apple don't accept ssh / 22 conections
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: but the thing accepting the connection would be ubuntu.
[21:43] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: you can't access the files on the iphone as a file system
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> davidparker: you could setup a samba server, or an ftp server to hold the files.
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: ok you cant browse the phone to push, but you can pull using the phone
[21:44] <Player_> Does anyone know if it's possible to change the swappiness value on an OpenVZ Linux VPS (Ubuntu 13.10 currently)?  And if so, how? (I get sysctl: permission denied on key 'vm.swappiness' when trying to change it)
[21:44] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: no, you can't write the file system like that either
[21:44] <ikonia> Player_: it's a shared kernel, so no
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> Player_: add the option in /etc/sysctl.conf
[21:44] <ikonia> no, it won't work
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: then why are there sftp clients for ios?
[21:45] <davidparker> ActionParsnip: Thanks, I will check that out! Any recommendations for processing the audio?
[21:45] <Player_> Okay, thanks anyway.  I'll see if the host can change it.
[21:45] <Pirate40> I'm not sure if I'm in the correct place, but I have a issue. I installed the Ubuntu on a lap top and had it clear the hard drive. I want to reinstall the Windows 7 I had on it and it keeps giving me a Archive Manager error and won't install. Any assistance??
[21:45] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: no idea,
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> davidparker: you could use icecast
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: funny how people have taken the time to code aomething that doesnt work......weird
[21:46] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: maybe for jailbroken devices ? maybe in the apps private disk area ? don't know
[21:47] <davidparker> ActionParsnip: good choice! I have some experience with icecast. One more question: do you have a recommendation for what software could take the digital audio stream and portion it regularly into 30 minute or 1 hour mp3 files? So every day 24 or 48 new unique files are created, and then each file uploaded to Samba?
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> davidparker: there is a command called split I believe
[21:48] <jesper> hey
[21:49] <davidparker> ActionParsnip: perfect, I will try that out. Wish me luck!
[21:49] <Etriaph> G'day folks.
[21:49] <jesper> hai there etriaph
[21:50] <Etriaph> I've installed php5-pgsql and am getting an error in /var/log/apache2/error.log that pg_connect does not exist.
[21:50] <Etriaph> Been looking on SO and Google for a solution, but not getting anywhere.  Running Kubuntu 14.04
[21:51] <Pirate40> Is there a novice Ubuntu channel ?
[21:52] <ikonia> Pirate40: all levels welcome here
[21:53] <Pirate40> Trying to reinstall windows 7 back on to a laptop i installed ubuntu on ikonia
[21:53] <ikonia> so how does that fit into ubuntu support ?
[21:56] <maxbit89> hy
[21:58] <adamcunnington> I can't open chromium; error here - ac@ADAM-PC:~$ chromium-browser
[21:58] <adamcunnington> [11557:11557:0612/225646:ERROR:process_singleton_linux.cc(264)] Failed to create /home/ac/.config/chromium/SingletonLock: File exists
[21:58] <kartK1> hey guys. which noob question on etc/init.d. there is this program in my etc/init.d folder and i was wondering is there to see to which package provided that script.
[21:58] <adamcunnington> [11557:11557:0612/225646:ERROR:chrome_browser_main.cc(1198)] Failed to create a ProcessSingleton for your profile directory. This means that running multiple instances would start multiple browser processes rather than opening a new window in the existing process. Aborting now to avoid profile corruption.
[21:58] <adamcunnington> Sorry, i didn't copy the URL properly... https://paste.lugons.org/show/FusCyvbQI5I4Wret9Ipd/
[21:58] <ikonia> adamcunnington: remove the file so i can create it
[21:58] <adamcunnington> ikonia: so it* ?
[21:58] <Pirate40> Ikonia I'd say it fits in that I have Ubuntu and need some support.
[21:58] <ikonia> so "it"
[21:58] <ikonia> Pirate40: you don't need ubuntu support
[21:59] <ikonia> Pirate40: you need windows help
[21:59] <adamcunnington> ikonia: i'm now getting an error everytime i launch chromium
[21:59] <Pirate40> My OS is Ubuntu. Ubuntu won't open the start program on the disk.
[22:00] <ikonia> adamcunnington: I'm getting an error isn't helpful
[22:00] <Etriaph> OK, something strange is going on.
[22:00] <ikonia> Pirate40: you don't open the start program - you boot from windows install media
[22:00] <ikonia> Pirate40: the guys in ##windows channel can walk you through the windows install process
[22:00] <adamcunnington> ikonia: "Your profile could not be opened correctly. Some features may be unavailable. Please check that the profile exists and you have permission to read and write its contents."
[22:00] <ikonia> adamcunnington: look at the permissions on your home dir/where it wants to create it
[22:00] <Etriaph> On Ubuntu 14.04, if you install package php5-pgsql, postgres support is enabled for PHP CLI only, not under Apache2
[22:00] <Pirate40> Well, that's the idea, problem is that isn't happening
[22:01] <ikonia> Pirate40: "whats" not happening
[22:01] <ikonia> Etriaph: why do you think that (not saying your wrong) but I expect that to be the pdo object for php which apache can use
[22:01] <adamcunnington> ikonia: but i've been using this fine for months, why has this problem suddenly occured?
[22:01] <ikonia> adamcunnington: maybe you've changed the permissions on your home drie/where it wants to create it
[22:02] <Etriaph> pg_connect should be enabled.
[22:02] <Pirate40> I put the Install disk in the Drive. Boot the Laptop,  it boots thye Ubuntu but won't boot the install from the drive
[22:02] <adamcunnington> ikonia: only thing i've done is chmod +x setup.py from inside a virtualenv
[22:02] <Etriaph> Doing a phpinfo() on a website through Apache shows it's not enabled.
[22:02] <Etriaph> Doing it on the console does.
[22:02] <ikonia> Etriaph: hasn't this all been depreciated for pdo ?
[22:02] <ikonia> Pirate40: ok, so the guys in ##windows can help
[22:02] <Etriaph> Not at all.
[22:02] <Pirate40> Right on, thanks
[22:02] <Etriaph> I'm saying Postgres Support is *not* enabled for Apache2
[22:03] <Etriaph> Only for PHP5 CLI
[22:03] <Etriaph> phpinfo() says so :D
[22:03] <Etriaph> phppgadmin wouldn't work without pg_connect, it doesn't use PDO
[22:03] <ikonia> Etriaph: look for another package then
[22:03] <Etriaph> Well.. it's the only package. :D
[22:03] <ikonia> phpgadmin may not work because no-ones updated it to pdo
[22:04] <ikonia> I was under the impression it had all been moved to pdo now, but that coul dbe wrong
[22:04] <Etriaph> https://gist.github.com/Etriaph/a046db6c51b617aa13cc
[22:05] <grubles> hello is there a program that supports facebook chat + google hangouts?
[22:05] <Etriaph> Postgres is not at all mentioned via phpinfo() on the web
[22:06] <ikonia> Etriaph: have you stopped/started apache since the install
[22:06] <skinux> Disks said my hard drive is 'OK', so obviously it's not failing at all.
[22:06] <ikonia> Etriaph: have you looked at the apache modules to see if it's set to load it
[22:06] <Etriaph> Yes.
[22:06] <Etriaph> I'm pretty experienced with Ubuntu and LAMP setups
[22:06] <jackarius86> hi can anyone help me with installing formatjunkie ?? i downloaded the deb file, used 'sudo dpkg -i formatjunkie_1.07-1~raring0.2_i386.deb' then 'sudo apt-get install -f' and even after that i couldnt get it to work..?
[22:06] <ikonia> Etriaph: whats the module status ?
[22:07] <ikonia> jackarius86: define "doesn't work"
[22:07] <skinux> jackarius86: Why aren't you installing deb packages using alien?
[22:07] <ikonia> because alien is the wrong tool
[22:08] <skinux> ??
[22:08] <Etriaph> ikonia: How do you mean?
[22:08] <ikonia> you should not be installing a deb package with alien
[22:08] <Etriaph> As in mod_status?
[22:08] <skinux> That is what alien is for!?
[22:08] <jackarius86> using alien?
[22:08] <ikonia> Etriaph: is apache set to load the postgres php module
[22:08] <subz3r0> hi
[22:08] <jackarius86> i dont even have alien..
[22:08] <ikonia> jackarius86: ignore "using alien" is the wrong tool
[22:08] <Etriaph> PHP is in /etc/php5/apache2/conf/
[22:08] <jackarius86> ok
[22:08] <jackarius86> ohhh
[22:08] <ikonia> Etriaph: isn't the postgres module a seperate php module ?
[22:08] <jackarius86> im missing ggmpeg
[22:08] <skinux> ikonia: How is it the wrong tool?
[22:09] <Etriaph> Yes, look at /etc/php5/apache2/conf/
[22:09] <jackarius86> but ffmpeg is obsolete too
[22:09] <ikonia> skinux: by being the wrong tool
[22:09] <Etriaph> Or conf.d
[22:09] <skinux> Why is it the wrong tool?????
[22:09] <subz3r0> when i use a cronjob... what is the difference between: * * 1 * * and 0 0 1 * *
[22:09] <jackarius86> is there a new software that replaced formatjunkie?
[22:09] <ikonia> Etriaph: I'm working from memory as I don't have an ubuntu box to hand here
[22:09] <Etriaph> 20-pgsql.ini is included in there
[22:09] <Etriaph> But the extension never loads.
[22:09] <Etriaph> phpinfo() knows nothing about it
[22:09] <ikonia> Etriaph: is the actual module on the file system (the postgres php one)
[22:09] <Etriaph> But PHP CLI works just fine
[22:10] <Etriaph> ikonia: That I haven't checked, but did sudo apt-get install php5-pgsql with no issue.
[22:10] <ikonia> Etriaph: worth checking
[22:10] <ikonia> Etriaph: that way you know where the bug is and can get it fixed quickly
[22:10] <subz3r0> wouldnt the job start with * * 1 * * every month at 00:00 at the first day in month?
[22:10] <ikonia> skinux: you have no time set
[22:10] <ikonia> skinux: oops, not you
[22:10] <Etriaph> ikonia: But it must be there because PHP5 CLI is loading it
[22:10] <ikonia> subz3r0: you have no time set
[22:11] <ikonia> subz3r0: that would run every minute of every hour
[22:11] <subz3r0> hmm?
[22:11] <Etriaph> PHP is divided into two shunts, once for CLI which has its own configuration and one for apache2 which has a separate configuration
[22:11] <Etriaph> A PHP shell script shows pgsql support, but through apache does not
[22:11] <ikonia> Etriaph: look at the apache config, look at the postgres module it's trying to load, and verify it's on the file system where it's expected
[22:11] <subz3r0> minute, hour, day ,month, day of week
[22:12] <subz3r0> ikonia: sorry but i dont get it
[22:12] <ikonia> subz3r0: * = all the time
[22:12] <ikonia> so * * = every minute of every hour
[22:13] <subz3r0> but i just set the 1 for month
[22:14] <ikonia> subz3r0: ok, so it will run every minute of every hour in January
[22:14] <Etriaph> ikonia: Apache loads the PHP module, which reads php.ini and loads extensions on its own
[22:14] <ikonia> Etriaph: interesting,
[22:14] <Etriaph> ikonia: Apache has very little to do with PHP except what PHP tells Apache about.
[22:14] <subz3r0> ikonia: okay so if i dont want that i have to use 0 instead of *
[22:14] <ikonia> subz3r0: 0 where ?
[22:14] <subz3r0> means 0 0 1 * *
[22:15] <ikonia> subz3r0: no,
[22:15] <ikonia> subz3r0: what do you actually want ?
[22:15] <subz3r0> a job every 1. day in a month
[22:15] <subz3r0> no matter if the month has 28 30 31 days
[22:15] <subz3r0> just the first day of a month
[22:15] <ikonia> subz3r0: ok, so the day is * and you just set the time
[22:16] <subz3r0> eh?
[22:16] <ikonia> you need to go and ready about cron
[22:17] <subz3r0> @monthly = 0 0 1 * *
[22:17] <ikonia> no
[22:17] <subz3r0> yes
[22:17] <ikonia> no
[22:17] <subz3r0> its a string that can be used, too
[22:18] <ikonia> no
[22:18] <subz3r0> http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Cron
[22:18] <ikonia> so ?
[22:18] <subz3r0> then this wiki must be wrong
[22:19] <syeekick> anyone got any idea why my numix circle theme for unity doesn't save on reboot? 14.04
[22:19] <syeekick> any input would be apreicated
[22:20] <subz3r0> ikonia: well... so when i want to start the script at 00:01 every first day of a month it would be 1 0 1 * *
[22:20] <subz3r0> right?
[22:20] <ikonia> yes, on the first day of a month
[22:20] <ikonia> it's better to use 01
[22:20] <ikonia> rather than 1
[22:20] <subz3r0> okay
[22:20] <ikonia> but that's just a tidy think
[22:21] <ikonia> thing
[22:21] <subz3r0> but why is it written like that in the wiki
[22:21] <ikonia> I don't know, I don't write the wiki
[22:21] <subz3r0> @monthly  = 0 0 1 * *
[22:21] <ikonia> I can read
[22:21] <subz3r0> since that would mean at 0:00 at the first day
[22:21] <ikonia> correct
[22:21] <est0> anyonee have a recommendations for a small portable screen for a raspbery pi ?
[22:22] <ikonia> est0: try ##hardware channel
[22:22] <subz3r0> subz3r0> @monthly = 0 0 1 * *
 no
[22:22] <subz3r0> so what now?
[22:22] <subz3r0> lol?
[22:22] <ikonia> you asked for every day of the month even if it had 28/29/30 days
[22:23] <ikonia> now you want it on the first of each month
[22:23] <ikonia> those are two different things
[22:23] <subz3r0> not really
[22:23] <ikonia> yes, they are
[22:23] <subz3r0> it should start at the first day of a month, doesnt matter how many days a month has
[22:23] <subz3r0> that was the question
[22:23] <ikonia> you didn't ask for the first day of every month
[22:24] <ikonia> if you want it the first day of every month - you have the syntax correct, although I advise you to use 00 or 01 rather than 0 and 1
 subz3r0: what do you actually want ?
 a job every 1. day in a month
[22:25] <subz3r0> subz3r0> no matter if the month has 28 30 31 days
 just the first day of a month
[22:25] <jackarius86> how to convert m4a to mp3 without using ffmpeg? for some reason the only way you can do it on the web is by using ffmpeg :/
[22:27] <subz3r0> jackarius86: use avconf
[22:27] <subz3r0> ;)
[22:28] <jackarius86> subz3r0: avconf?
[22:28] <jackarius86> unable to locate..?
[22:29] <subz3r0> https://libav.org/avconv.html
[22:30] <skinux> Anyone provide a good link for moving Ubuntu installation to another partition and properly updating (UEFI) boot menu?
[22:30] <skinux> Also, is an Ubuntu App the same as any other application that can run on Ubuntu or something more specific to Ubuntu?
[22:31] <subz3r0> sudo apt-get install libav-tools
[22:31] <jackarius86> ohhh, avconV
[22:31] <jackarius86> theres a V at the end :P
[22:31] <subz3r0> its some kind of a fork of ffmpeg
[22:32] <subz3r0> bye
[22:33] <estudiante> hola
[22:34] <estudiante> hola
[22:46] <Etriaph> ikonia: Found the solution.
[22:46] <Etriaph> ikonia: php5enmod pgsql
[22:47] <kartK1> skinux: http://askubuntu.com/questions/343268/how-to-use-manual-partitioning-during-installation this guide helped me before.
[23:04] <mkdmz> How do I create new mimetypes?  Not finding solutions that work online.
[23:04]  * hayrom new canal #cvv2
[23:05] <nico103> hi
[23:06] <nico103> question #1: can I install older glibcs for the purpose of building (linking) software so it will run on older Linux systems?
[23:06] <OerHeks> mkdmz, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingMimeTypes
[23:06] <mkdmz> OerHeks: I followed that, din work.
[23:07] <nico103> question #2: if I install from an old Ubuntu 11 ISO, will that really install 11, or will it upgrade to something newer, or will it fail?  (maybe repos not available?)
[23:07] <OerHeks> mkdmz, after adding mimetype, did you logout/login again ?
[23:07] <mkdmz> yep
[23:08] <mkdmz> I tried both methods as well.
[23:10] <OerHeks> nico103, old repo's are gone, but are available with a trick https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades#Requirements see the old-release part
[23:10] <OerHeks> mkdmz, i have no clue, maybe the mimetype is in use, or added wrong
[23:10] <nico103> OerHeks: good to know
[23:11] <nico103> OerHeks: what about older glibcs?
[23:11] <nico103> would it be sane to build an older glibc, point the toolchain at it?
[23:11] <mkdmz> OerHeks: It's not in use.  I grep first.  Now I grep after following thost short instructions and it included.
[23:12] <nico103> OerHeks: alternatively, are there other distros I should use for this purpose?
[23:12] <OerHeks> nico103, i don't know about that, glibc
[23:13] <nico103> OerHeks: as to the old-releases thing, if I'm installing from an ISO, how do I patch /etc/apt/sources.list?
[23:14] <OerHeks> nico103, just install an old release without internet, and edit sources after installation/reboot i guess
[23:14] <nico103> ah, ok
[23:14] <nico103> thanks
[23:14] <nico103> that makes sense :)
[23:14] <nico103> duh :)
[23:14] <mkdmz> OerHeks: Would I matter if I am using Lubuntu?
[23:15] <mkdmz> I don't see the new icon for files with my new extension.
[23:15] <OerHeks> mkdmz, not likely lubuntu is better in doing mimetypes
[23:16] <mkdmz> OerHeks: Woudl it matter that I am testing this on a live disk?
[23:16] <OerHeks> mkdmz, yes, logout does not work does it?
[23:17] <mkdmz> OerHeks: It logs me out of the live user, I just log back in like usual.
[23:18] <OerHeks> mkdmz, never heard of that
[23:19] <OerHeks> maybe someone else is capable of answering that question
[23:19] <mkdmz> OerHeks: Do you think maybe the icon should be copied somewhere else, instead of the gnome folder?  the text-x-extension.svg file?
[23:20] <mkdmz> OerHeks: Could you suggest someone who might now?
[23:23] <mkdmz> _[myth: you around?
[23:23] <McMido> guys how to setup compiz fusion
[23:24] <mkdmz> _Trullo: u around?
[23:24] <maxxx> is this normal?
[23:24] <maxxx> http://pastebin.com/q1vf8kjq
[23:25] <mkdmz> _ruben: Are you round?
[23:26] <mkdmz> _polto_: are you around?
[23:28] <mkdmz> _NiC: Are you around?
[23:29] <mkdmz> _marix: Are you around?
[23:30] <Redban> how to download x11 package?
[23:30] <Beldar> McMido, what desktop, unity is a plugin in compiz.
[23:32] <McMido> yes
[23:32] <McMido> Beldar: yes :D
[23:32] <McMido> Beldar: ubuntu 14.4 , unity
[23:33] <Beldar> McMido, And what do you want to do with compiz?
[23:33] <McMido> Beldar:  i want to install it :
[23:34] <Beldar> McMido, It is already installed is it you want to config it?
[23:34] <McMido> Beldar:  Yes :D
[23:35] <Beldar> McMido, It has a a lot of controls and being that the unity desktop is a plugin in it you can easily loose the desktop, so my advice is don't touch it.
[23:36] <Beldar> or be prepared to really mess up, it can easily happen
[23:36] <McMido> Beldar: well i will make a backup , then start playing around with it
[23:37] <Beldar> McMido, install the compizconfig-setting-manager it had the most controls and is a gui.
[23:38] <Beldar> it has a backup as it is you can make in it,
[23:38] <McMido> Beldar: oh okey i istalled it
[23:40] <Beldar> McMido, I run the gnome shell so do not have direct access to it, and don't really remember it all, so others help is needed. When I did mess with it I used web info, probably lots still out there, find 14.04 info is all.
[23:40] <McMido> Beldar: Ah Ok ty :)
[23:41] <Beldar> McMido, No prob, note that some changes will have delays and make it do what looks like a de restart sop be patient. ;)
[23:41] <Beldar> slight delays
[23:41] <McMido> Beldar: Oh That's g good note :) ty
[23:42] <Beldar> McMido, Yeah without knowing this it could seem disconcerting.
[23:49] <genitrust_> hey everyone! i have a server that is giving the internet to all other computers on the network through eth1  192.168.0.1
[23:49] <genitrust_> ...but for the machines (there are many) that grab the DNS automatically from my gateway, how do I tell these machines to use 8.8.8.8 as the default DNS?
[23:51] <mkdmz> _KaszpiR_: Do you know how to add mimetypes?
[23:55] <boov> hi fucing niggers
[23:55] <boov> you need troubles?
[23:55] <Beldar> genitrust_, YOU might ask in #ubuntu-server
[23:55] <genitrust_> thanks Beldar  :)
[23:56] <Beldar> genitrust_, No prob, just seems a bit slow here.
[23:56] <genitrust_> ya man, i appreciate it :)
[23:56] <rorre> I want to download any flash video from web. What's the easiest way? i'm on ubuntu 14.04
[23:57] <memereaka> Bonsoir maman, bonsoir les petits chats
[23:57] <Teltariat> rorre: you could try youtube-dl
[23:57] <Beldar> !fr | memereaka
[23:57] <skinux> Is it wise to move /usr directories to another partition for disk space purposes?
[23:57] <rorre> Is it an application or brwoser plugin?
[23:57] <Teltariat> rorre: command line
[23:57] <Teltariat> rorre: there's also http://www.clipconverter.cc/
[23:58] <rorre> Can it download any video from web?
[23:58] <Beldar> skinux, If you have space the resize the partitions
[23:58] <Beldar> then*
[23:58] <Jordan_U> rorre: It can download most. There is no single solution that can download *all* videos (or even the subset of flash videos).
[23:58] <zaishen> guildwars game can run on ubuntu?
[23:59] <skinux> I have 60G unallocated, but GParted won't resize Ubuntu partition to be larger.
[23:59] <rorre> I have paid for a e-learning course, but the bastard just let me see each video 5 times
[23:59] <Beldar> skinux, Has to be done from a live cd