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ochosimorning everyone07:36
elfyhey ochosi 07:40
ochosiUnit193: where are your xubuntu-related packages that would go into the extras repo again?07:42
elfyochosi: I'm not working the week after next, need to set the meeting up - but I can set it for when you're about if you want07:42
ochosielfy: thanks, that'd be nice07:43
ochosii have to announce in advance that the next two weeks might be a bit more chaotic for me, because i'm in my transition back home07:44
elfyochosi: yep 07:44
ochosiso i have a few last days here in venice and i'll also be travelling a bit (for fun, this time)07:44
ochosiafter that, things should be mostly stable throughout the summer07:44
elfylet me know if there's a best time and I'll set it for then - as long as I've set it by early next week07:44
elfyheh07:44
ochosifor next week, i think mon-tue would be the best days07:46
ochositime-wise, hrm, i guess the meeting during the day worked best for me07:46
ochosiwe could also ask bluesabre if that'd work for him again07:46
ochosi(that was 10utc iirc)07:47
elfylol07:47
elfyI see you read and digested the meeting logs - no meeting next week - no meeting till week of 23rd June :)07:47
ochosioh right, i forgot, so the week after that...07:48
elfyok - so ~10:00UTC?07:48
ochosithat makes it harder to say what day would be good though07:48
elfy:) - well we can leave setting it for a few days if that helps07:49
Unit193ochosi: Mostly in /xfce, but thunar is in /test.07:51
ochosielfy: i guess i won't be able to realistically say anything until monday07:53
ochosiUnit193: thunar? you mean the dropbox plugin?07:53
Unit193Yep.07:54
ochosik, any pkgs you wouldn't consider ready for the extras repo?07:54
elfyochosi: ok - well I'll set it then :)07:54
elfybbl07:55
ochosiok, thanks elfy 07:57
Unit193Well xfwm is a git snapshot, sooo.08:06
Unit193And just pull thunar-dropbox-plugin from the other.08:07
ochosiwhat's up with appfinder?08:09
ochosiah, we don't have that release yet in 14.0408:10
Unit193Right, just a backport.08:10
Unit193Picked it directly from experimental, so can ignore it.08:11
ochosiok08:12
ochosihrm, the dropbox plugin is still building08:16
ochosixfdashboard is copied over though08:17
Unit193I was going to hit up utopic with that when things were slightly further along, but meh.08:17
Unit193Had it since quantal. >_>08:18
ochosifwiw, just dropped all pkgs for lucid from our dev-PPA08:42
ochosithis one: https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ppa08:42
ochosii apologize in advance to all users of lucid :p08:42
Unit193Hah.08:43
Unit193Thanks.08:43
Unit193ochosi: Have any other requests?08:43
ochosihmm, skippy-xd is already in the repos?08:44
ochosiif not, that'd be a request08:46
NoskcajUnit193, Could you add the embed plugin (from debian svn) too please08:53
Unit193I can't add anything. :P08:53
Unit193What's it do?08:53
Unit193Noskcaj: PPA it and request someone copy it over.08:55
Noskcaj"Plugin for embedding arbitrary app windows into the Xfce panel"08:56
ochosiit's quite a funny and ridiculous plugin at the same time08:57
ochosiiirc the author embedded a messenger app in the panel (that was the main usecase)08:57
ochosiif anybody has more creative ideas than this ^ ...08:57
Unit193So, we need it for utopic?08:57
NoskcajUnit193, nope, just saying it should be in the ppa in case someone finds a use for it08:58
NoskcajIt's  in ppa:noskcaj/build now09:02
ochosiNoskcaj: ok, feel free to ping me when it's ready and tested09:02
Noskcajready=yes, tested=no09:03
ochosiif (tested == yes) { ping ochosi; } else { return; }09:05
Noskcajk09:05
knomeyeah, that PPA shouldn't be for experimental stuff09:06
Unit193So, don't put xfce4-appfinder in it.09:08
knomewhen does something stop being experimental?09:09
knomewhen enough people have tested it...09:09
knomeso just make sure it's tested and we can take it in09:10
slickymasterWorkknome: do you have a few minutes to spare?09:12
Unit193knome: So, both mine don't count?09:13
Unit193Meh, just dropbox doesn't, which is what I use.09:15
slickymasterWorkknome: I've just noticed that something got messed up with xubuntu.ent 09:20
slickymasterWorkat least the s«Settings Manager icon isn't being properly load in the documentation 09:21
knomeslickymasterWork, hmm, right09:28
brainwashshould we ask why the patched xfpm and lls packages are not available in -proposed yet? or just wait some more days?09:33
slickymasterWorklol knome, meaning...?09:33
knomemeaning "i guess i should look at it"09:33
slickymasterWorkanother thing I wanted to talk to you about is bug 129974309:34
ubottubug 1299743 in xubuntu-docs (Ubuntu) "No options: "Show printers shared by other systems"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129974309:34
slickymasterWorkI'm inclined to mark it as invalid. What is your opinion?09:34
knomeyeah, that's a good question09:34
ochosibbabl09:35
bluesabre10utc works best for me10:05
ochosielfy: ^ ok, then let's head for 10utc and fix the day/date on monday?10:56
knomeslickymasterWork, sorry, i must have missed your last question before....10:57
knomeslickymasterWork, to be honest, i don't really know if it's invalid10:57
knomeslickymasterWork, if we insist there is a specific option to enable/disable and it doesn't exist, it's a bug in our documentation10:58
knomeslickymasterWork, maybe we could change it to something more general. at least we should see how xubuntu machines would have to enable that stuff and document that10:58
ochosibluesabre, ali1234, and whoever else it might concern: talked to larsu recently about their plans for indicators11:03
slickymasterWorkknome, lost connectivity 11:04
ochosibluesabre, ali1234: in the short run (14.10) there are no big changes ahead – although honestly, with the indicator-stack you can never know...11:04
bluesabreyeah, something will likely break11:04
ochosias soon as unity8 is around, it's questionable whether we can still use indicators easily, cause then they will change significantly11:04
ochosiat least that was larsu's projection11:04
slickymasterWorkthing is that the paragraph in question addresses other Linux/Ubuntu based systems11:04
slickymasterWorkdoes xubuntu fall in that condition? 11:05
knomeslickymasterWork, maybe we should "assume" the other systems are xubuntu, and write instructions for that11:05
bluesabrewe'll keep an eye on them, maybe team up with elementary folks for co-maintainership if we're the last people interested in gtk11:05
knomeand add "ymmv" for other systems11:05
ochosibluesabre: yeah, i guess going for gnome3's system doesn't make much sense..11:06
slickymasterWorklost you there knome, what's ymmv?11:06
knomeslickymasterWork, "your mileage may vary"11:06
bluesabreyeah, gnome3 doesn't support indicators (I think)11:06
knomeslickymasterWork, basically implying that "we don't really know what kind of switch/option you have, but here's how you do it in xubuntu:"11:07
ochosibluesabre: well they have some different (js based?) plugin/extension system11:07
slickymasterWorklol, thought you were referring to some sort of a package11:07
knomehehe, no11:07
bluesabreyeah, js from what I can tell11:07
ochosibluesabre: btw, as i'm not able to test it anymore, how's the display dialog working now?11:07
slickymasterWorkok, I'll rewrite it11:08
knomeslickymasterWork, cheers11:08
knomeslickymasterWork, can you test what the xubuntu user would need to do to enable that? or is it enabled automatically?11:08
slickymasterWorkI'll have to test it here knome 11:09
knomemhm11:09
knomei'm actually thinking it might require some package to be installed, or then not11:09
knomei have no clue...11:09
knomei still don't have any resident printers ;)11:09
slickymasterWorkI can take advantage of the fact that here I have a network available to test it11:09
knomeyep11:10
knomethat's cool11:10
slickymasterWorkthanks for the brainstorming knome ;)11:10
knomenp11:11
slickymasterWorktold you I would be poking you :P11:11
knomebut that's okay ;)11:11
davmor2slickymaster: I wouldn't you don't know where knome has been ;)11:13
knometrue...11:14
slickymasterWorkI think I'm safe davmor2, I have a biiiiiiiiiiiiig poking stick11:15
knomeslickymasterWork, oh yeah the entity file is either messed up or it isn't loaded corretly11:17
slickymasterWorkyes, at first I thought it might be caused by some specific configuration of my utopic box11:18
knometbe, it's broken for languages only11:18
knomedid you check the main docs in english?11:19
slickymasterWorkbut I branch them and build it locally and the issue remains11:19
slickymasterWorkyes11:19
knomeand did it break?11:19
slickymasterWorkyes11:19
knomeweird11:19
knomebecause it's fine here11:19
slickymasterWorknot here11:19
knomealso Unit193 has reported some breakings with the latest branches11:20
knomebut only now and then, nothing he can reproduce11:20
slickymasterWorkbut there's something going wrong anyway11:20
knomeyep11:20
slickymasterWorkI pinged Unit193, but most probably he finally went to sleep :)11:21
knomei think the problem is that the translation is happening in a wrong directory11:33
slickymasterWorkthe script is running incorrectly? is that what you mean?11:34
knomenot exactly11:34
knomethe script is running correctly11:34
knomebut the xml files reference to the .ent file with a relative path, eg. ../libs/xubuntu.ent11:34
knomeand i believe the script is in a wrong directory to get that right11:35
slickymasterWorkah, I see what you mean11:35
knomeor something else is in the wrong place11:35
knomebut i believe it's in the translation process11:35
knomebecause i don't experience the issue with the default docs11:35
slickymasterWorkby default you mean the ones in english?11:36
knomeyep11:36
slickymasterWorkI had experience the same issue with those11:37
slickymasterWorks/had/have11:37
knomei don't, so i'm unable to debug that11:37
knomeare you absolutely sure you have the latest branch revision?11:40
slickymasterWorkbranch it at 10:00 AM11:43
slickymasterWorkknome: the branch is revision 19811:52
slickymasterWorkit's the last one11:56
knomeyep11:56
knomefor some reason, xml2po seems to strip the line '%xubuntu-ent' off, which makes the entities not available12:24
jjfrv8slickymasterWork, re bug 1299743, that option apparently disappeared sometime between Precise and Saucy13:02
ubottubug 1299743 in xubuntu-docs (Ubuntu) "No options: "Show printers shared by other systems"" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129974313:02
jjfrv8slickymasterWork, http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/print-server-settings-comparison.php13:03
jjfrv8so that means I missed it at least the last two cycles :(13:03
knomethat happens... :)13:11
slickymasterWorkknome, jjfrv8, so basically the issue relates to changes in the system-config-printer14:14
slickymasterWorkpackage14:14
jjfrv8slickymasterWork, yes, I think so. That setting appears to be the default now. I tested it and it does seem to work that way.14:15
slickymasterWorkok, I'm going to test it now, to see how it's now achievable14:16
jjfrv8slickymasterWork, I drafted a wording change as a suggestion: https://code.launchpad.net/~jjfrv8/+junk/print-server-settings14:20
slickymasterWorkjjfrv8, seeing your commit14:20
slickymasterWorklol14:21
slickymasterWorkdo you want me to assign to bug to you, jjfrv8?14:21
slickymasterWorks/to/the14:21
jjfrv8that's okay with me. Just let me know if you think the change is good or if you'd rather do it another way.14:23
jjfrv8bbiab14:37
GridCubehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ristretto/+bug/131482914:39
ubottuUbuntu bug 1314829 in ristretto (Ubuntu) ""Set as Wallpaper" doesn't work" [Undecided,Confirmed]14:39
slickymasterWorkdamn connection14:43
slickymasterWorkjjfrv8, your rewording works for me14:43
slickymasterWorkdo you want me to merge or will you do it yourself?14:44
jjfrv8slickymasterWork, I'll let you do the merge. I'd probably screw it up.15:14
slickymasterWorklol jjfrv8 15:15
slickymasterWorkit will be my first one, but that's one of the reasons for wanting to do it15:16
jjfrv8slickymasterWork, should I do an MP or can you do it from junk?15:16
slickymasterWorkgood question, jjfrv8. Probably it would be better if you do a proper MP15:16
jjfrv8ok. I haven't verified that it looks the same in Utopic yet. Probly need to do that.  And then do I need to pull separate versions from T and U?15:18
slickymasterWorkprobably not15:18
slickymasterWorkI'm running utopic and so far the package in question is exactly the same15:19
jjfrv8ah, good.15:19
slickymasterWorkand if by any chances it gets changed we can always reproduce that change15:20
jjfrv8yeah, it's still early for that.15:20
slickymasterWorkyes15:20
slickymasterWorkI'll just be able to merge later this evening though15:21
slickymasterWorkover here at work I'm bind to port 80, communicating to the exterior 15:21
jjfrv8ok, MP into Trusty is there for you.15:24
ochosijjfrv8, slickymaster: btw, since both of you know xubuntu from a very specific viewpoint, i'd be interested to hear where you think we should improve htings15:39
ochosithings15:39
ochosithis is more a general remark though, so always feel free to speak up if you feel you're documenting a silly procedure that users have to undergo to achieve goal X – at least if it's something that is under our control somehow15:40
elfyochosi: 10UTC is fine with me - I'll wait for you to tell me which day I'm choosing :D17:18
Unit193knome: Well, to be more precise, it happens every time on real boxes, but in chroots it's fine.17:35
knomeaha17:35
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knomeUnit193, entities aren't loaded correctly for the docs20:37
Unit193knome: Are you having the same problem?20:38
slickymasterthat's it Unit193 20:38
slickymasterUnit193: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/06/12/%23xubuntu-devel.html#t09:2020:38
slickymasterand http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/06/12/%23xubuntu-devel.html#t11:1720:39
Unit193I've known translations had a problem, but they validate in a chroot fine, just not on any hardware.20:39
knomeUnit193, yeah, but not with the english version, only translations20:39
Unit193Exactly, only translations.20:40
knomeUnit193, if you look at the translation xml files, they lack the %xubuntu-ent; lines20:40
slickymasterthe exception is that I got it also with the english version20:40
knomeso is it the xml2po process that removes that?20:40
knomeand why/how didn't that happen before?20:40
Unit193<!ENTITY % xubuntu-ent SYSTEM "../libs/xubuntu.ent">20:40
knomeyes20:41
knomebut the following line20:41
knomesee the main xml files20:41
slickymasterknome, going to need your assistance on something20:42
knomeslickymaster, you should know you can ask in 5 minutes ;920:42
knomewell 420:43
knome+ 1-420:43
Unit193gnome-doc-utils shouldn't be the problem at least, hasn't changed in a while.20:43
slickymasterregarding bug 1299743, jjfrv8 and I got sorted out early this afternoon and jjfrv8 already made a MP20:43
ubottubug 1299743 in xubuntu-docs (Ubuntu) "No options: "Show printers shared by other systems"" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129974320:43
knomeslickymaster, noticed20:44
slickymasterthing is I never have made a merge20:44
knomei'll help you once the first period is over20:44
slickymasterhow do I go about doing it?20:44
slickymasteryour seeing the soccer match?20:44
knomeyep20:44
knome(you're)20:44
slickymasteris Brazil loosing?20:44
knomeno, it's 1-120:45
elfynot now the ref's cheated20:45
knomethey did an own goal though...20:45
slickymasterthat I knew, Marcelo, wasn't it?20:45
knomewell their goal was fair20:45
knomeyeah20:45
knomeneymar tied20:45
slickymasterwatching now :)20:46
knomehas been kind of boring after the second goal...20:46
Unit193https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libxml2/+bug/132186920:48
ubottuUbuntu bug 1321869 in libxml2 "xmllint 2.9.1+dfsg1-3ubuntu4.1 does not load entities any more" [High,Fix released]20:48
knomeaha20:48
slickymastergood catch Unit193 20:49
knomefixed three days ago, but i still had it today?20:49
slickymasteryeaps20:49
knomeslickymaster, ok, so there are basically two ways to do it:20:49
slickymastershoot knome 20:50
knomethe first one is how i do it, and it's the most straightforward, BUT it doesn't preserve the person doing the merge proposal as the committer20:50
knomebasically, three steps20:50
knome1) make sure you have the latest main branch20:50
knome2) bzr merge lp:~somebody/xubuntu-docs/their-branch20:51
knome3) bzr commit -m "Merge Somebody's branch." && bzr push20:51
Unit193knome: No, downgrade and you're good.20:52
slickymasterthat somebody is step 2 is exactly who, or what knome?20:52
Unit193apt-get download libxml2=2.9.1+dfsg1-3ubuntu4 libxml2-utils=2.9.1+dfsg1-3ubuntu4 python-libxml2=2.9.1+dfsg1-3ubuntu420:52
knomebetween 2 and 3 you might run into conflicts, if the person doing the merge proposal has used an old revision to base their branch, and same files have been changed in both their branch and the main branch20:53
knomeslickymaster, in this case, it's jack20:53
knomeslickymaster, whoever's branch it is you are merging20:53
slickymasterbut it's his LP alias, right?20:53
knomeslickymaster, yep. the merge command is always shown in the merge proposal20:53
knomeslickymaster, in https://code.launchpad.net/~jjfrv8/xubuntu-docs/print-server-settings/+merge/22296220:54
knomeslickymaster, see "To merge this branch"20:54
slickymasterok knome 20:54
knomethe other way, just for completeness:20:55
knome1) branch the proposed branch (in this case, lp:~jjfrv8...)20:55
knome2) bzr merge lp:xubuntu-docs20:55
knome3) (i think) bzr commit -m 'Merge with main'20:56
knome4) bzr push lp:xubuntu-docs20:56
slickymasterI'll go with your first one knome 20:57
slickymasterone last thing knome, there's no need to update the changelog just for this merge, or is it?20:57
slickymasters/is it/is there20:57
knomewell, it depends how verbose you want to be with the changelog20:57
slickymasteras scarce as possible 20:57
knomelol20:57
knomewell, let's go through this case, because there is a nice thing about it20:58
slickymasterwhich is...20:58
knomeif you write: * Fix the printing chapter to remove a reference to obsolete setting (LP: #1299743)20:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1299743 in xubuntu-docs (Ubuntu) "No options: "Show printers shared by other systems"" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129974320:58
knomethen the bug status can be tracked automatically based on the status of the upload/process20:59
slickymasteryes20:59
knomeso i'm kind of in favor of listing everything that has been a bug20:59
slickymasteragree21:00
slickymasterso, I do it in jjfrv8's branch, before merging it, right?21:00
knomeand since you are merging with the first way, that's the only way jack can actually be attributed21:01
knomeyou can do it after the bzr merge command21:01
slickymasterand then commit it21:01
knomethen when doing bzr commit, just note you are merging and updating the changelog21:01
knomeyep21:01
slickymasterthink I got it21:01
knomefeel free to ask if there is something else21:02
slickymasterbut as the second period is about to start, I'll wait for the end of the game to do it21:02
knomehehe, i understand ;)21:02
knomeUnit193, i don't like downgrading :)21:02
Unit193Understandable.21:03
Unit193So, how do you fix it?21:07
knomeno idea.21:07
Unit193knome: Fixed it.21:52
knomeUnit193, great! what did you do?21:52
slickymasterhow did you fix it Unit193?21:52
Unit193knome: I patched and recompiled libxml2.21:52
knomelol21:52
knomethat's not a fix for us..21:52
slickymasterexactly :P21:53
Unit193No really, they did it wrong.  It should be a fix for Ubuntu.21:53
knomeprobably :)21:53
knomeplease propose it.21:53
Unit193http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/trusty/libxml2/trusty-security/revision/73#debian/patches/lp1321869.patch != https://git.gnome.org/browse/libxml2/commit/?id=dd8367da17c2948981a51e52c8a6beb445edf82521:55
knomegreat...21:55
Unit193Can I just comment on the current regression bug? :/22:00
knomewhatever gets the bug fixed.22:01
Unit193 --Translating pt22:02
Unit193Validating pt/index.xml ...22:02
Unit193It's fixed already. :D22:02
slickymastergreat, Thanks Unit193 22:02
knomeUnit193, for you, again..22:03
slickymasterknome: running the merge command I got:22:04
slickymasterConflict adding file desktop-guide/po/en_GB.po.  Moved existing file to desktop-guide/po/en_GB.po.moved.22:04
slickymasterText conflict in desktop-guide/po/fr.po22:04
slickymaster2 conflicts encountered.  22:04
knomeslickymaster, yeah... i told you about conflicts :P22:05
Unit193https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libxml2/+bug/1321869 hopefully that's good enough.22:05
slickymasteryeah, I rememver22:05
ubottuUbuntu bug 1321869 in libxml2 "xmllint 2.9.1+dfsg1-3ubuntu4.1 does not load entities any more" [High,Fix released]22:05
slickymasterhow do I solve it?22:05
knomeslickymaster, if i understand correctly, *.moved files are the old ones22:06
knomeslickymaster, so basically, remove those, then run: bzr resolve22:07
knomei'd double-check if they are the right files22:07
slickymasterknome: in xubuntu-docs/desktop-guide/po/ I just have one .moved file22:08
knomelet me check what i get.22:09
knomeyeah, the other ones are .BASE .OTHER .THIS22:10
Unit193Yeeeeeah, useless bzr...22:10
knomethe .moved file is smaller than the non-.moved22:10
slickymasterremove all three also22:10
knomeso i'd remove .moved22:10
slickymasteryes...22:10
slickymasterwhat about the .BASE .OTHER .THIS22:11
slickymaster?22:11
knomeso, that's a text conflict22:13
knomelet me check how to do this the least manual way22:13
knomewhich is what i usually do..22:13
slickymasteryes, in the french po and english po22:13
slickymasteroki dokie22:13
slickymasterI'll wait for your lead22:14
knomeif you want the .THIS file, then:22:17
knomebzr resolve desktop-guide/po/fr.po --take-this22:17
slickymaster1 conflict resolved, 1 remaining    22:18
knomeyep, now have you removed the .moved file?22:18
slickymasteryes22:19
knomethen just issue: bzr resolve22:19
knomeand it'll notice you've resolved that as well22:19
slickymasterRemaining conflicts:22:19
slickymasterConflict adding file desktop-guide/po/en_GB.po.  Moved existing file to desktop-guide/po/en_GB.po.moved.22:19
slickymasterit got created again22:19
knomelol22:20
knomeweird...22:20
knomebzr resolve desktop-guide/po/en_GB.po --take-other22:21
knomehttp://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/beta/en/user-reference/conflict-types-help.html22:21
knomethat's useful22:21
slickymasterstranger because if I  ls -la desktop-guide/po/22:21
slickymasterthere's no .moved file22:21
slickymasterand that seemed to be the culprit22:23
slickymasterbzr resolve desktop-guide/po/en_GB.po --take-other22:23
slickymasterdesktop-guide/po/en_GB.po.moved does not exist.22:23
slickymaster1 conflict resolved, 0 remaining22:23
slickymasterproceeding with the merge22:23
knomegood22:23
slickymasternopes knome 22:24
slickymasternow it's complaining about bzr: ERROR: Working tree "/home/slickymaster/xubuntu-docs/" has uncommitted changes22:25
slickymasterbzr status gives me slickymaster@PaPir:~/xubuntu-docs$ bzr status22:25
slickymasterremoved: desktop-guide/po/en_GB.po22:25
slickymasteradded: desktop-guide/po/en_GB.po22:25
slickymastermodified: desktop-guide/C/printing-scanning.xml22:25
slickymasterpending merge tips: (use -v to see all merge revisions) Jack Fromm 2014-06-12 Revised Printing-Scanning chapter to remove obsolete sharing reference.22:25
knomeyeah.. because you didn't commit22:25
knomei told you to do that before pushing :)22:25
slickymasterso, I must commit before merging?22:25
knomealso remember to edit the changelog22:25
knomeno,22:26
knomeyou should merge, then commit22:26
knomeremember, commit is a local action until you've pushed22:26
slickymasterI got that when I issue the merge command22:26
knomethe second time?22:26
knomeyou only need to run it once.22:26
slickymasterway before the commit && push commands22:26
knomeconflicts do not mean the merge action is canceled22:27
knomeit's done anyway22:27
slickymasteroh, so my first merge command did it22:27
knomebut you're left with a broken state22:27
knomeyeah.22:27
slickymasternow I get it22:27
knomethe conflicts just mean that doing the merge you have things you need to resolve22:27
knomebefore committing22:27
slickymasterso, I now can just and go ahead editing the changelog, commit && push22:28
knomeyep22:28
slickymasteralways learning22:28
slickymasterthat's why yopu're my tutor22:28
slickymasternot my grammar police22:28
knome;)22:28
slickymasterand spelling cop22:28
knomeam i not your grammar police :P22:31
slickymasterknome: one other thing should I edit under 14.04.1 or 14.10?22:32
knomefor starters, always something that says UNRELEASED22:33
slickymasterin the changelog22:33
slickymasterjust the 14.10 has the UNRELEASED22:33
knomeif we were staging this for an SRU, we would want to create a new release22:33
knome14.04.222:33
knomesince 14.04.1 is already released, we can't change that any more22:33
knomebut since we are preparing this for 14.10, it should be that22:34
slickymasternot seeing/getting 14.04.222:34
knomeno22:34
knomebecause we haven't initialized that version yet :)22:34
knomebut if/when we do SRU's, we'll do that22:34
slickymasteroh, dumb me22:34
knomebut yeah, general rule is: *never* touch releases that aren't UNRELEASED22:35
slickymasterknome: when pushing bzr is naging about bzr: ERROR: No push location known or specified.22:40
slickymasterdo I bzr push :parent ?22:40
knometo be sure, you can do: bzr push lp:xubuntu-docs22:42
slickymasterok22:42
knomebut :parent *should* be the same22:43
slickymasterPushed up to revision 206. 22:43
knomethat should be it then22:44
knomeusually you don't need to do the conflict resolving, so the process will be quite a bit quicker22:44
knomewell, usually and usually.. at least in an ideal situation22:45
slickymasteris it normal that at https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/xubuntu-docs/trusty isn't showing it up yet?22:45
knomeyes... you pushed to the utopic branch22:46
slickymastersaw that right after typing :P22:46
slickymasterlol22:46
Unit193knome: So we supposed to ping someone or something to poke it?22:58
knomeUnit193, mdeslauriers?23:00
slickymasterthe bud was inittialy assigned ti him23:01
slickymasters/bud/bug23:01
slickymasternot the beer23:01
knomeand fixed by him.23:05
slickymasteryes23:05
Unit193bluesabre: Congrats.23:11
knomeyay23:12
slickymasterhey you two got the ML first. Just got it now23:15
Unit193knome: Feel like you haven't done enough today?  Want to finish off that translation crap/23:15
Unit193slickymaster: And the reply.23:15
slickymasterCongrats bluesabre23:15
knomeUnit193, probably yeah... we could look that over the weekend though, if you are around23:16
Unit193Depends, but should work out, if you don't need Friday night.23:18
knomenot really23:20
brainwashshould this page be removed? https://launchpad.net/notification-daemon-xfce23:34
knomeprobably23:35
* knome looks at ochosi 23:35
brainwashmmh, https://launchpad.net/xfce-project23:36
brainwashsome more changes might be needed23:36
brainwashlike adding Parole23:36
brainwashand removing xfmedia23:38
brainwashthis Xfce project overview site appears to be a little bit outdated :)23:39

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