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jazzycoolhey guys whenever I try to install anything I get this error01:11
jazzycoolhttp://pastebin.com/tLmcFw6h01:11
jazzycoolcan anyone please help me figure out what it is01:11
jazzycoolguys anyone01:16
jazzycool?01:16
valorieWalzmyn: just control alt f2 - f9 or so01:32
valoriewhy would you want a gui way to log into a terminal?01:33
TeraJLi've created an icon-only task manager, and added chrome, but if chrome is closed when i click it it opens in gedit(editing opt/google/chrome) what it may be? it works fine any where else01:44
The0x539see, for a second I thought you meant chrome01:44
The0x539but you actually mean the google browser :|01:44
valoriechrome or chromium?01:45
valorieI had `chromium-browser`01:45
valorieyou might try that01:45
TeraJLchrome01:45
TeraJLstable01:46
TeraJLyes, the google browser lol google-chrome-stable, sorry ;)01:46
TheFakeazneD525TeraJL: does this happen with other icons?01:47
TheFakeazneD525maybe you set .desktop to open with gedit01:47
TheFakeazneD525btw, use kate ;)01:47
valorieapt-cache policy doesn't find a package google-chrome-stable01:47
TeraJLnop, all of them worked fine till now, and chrome icon on the bar (normal shortcut on the panel, works fine01:47
TheFakeazneD525valorie: oh right, you need the google chrome ppa01:48
TheFakeazneD525deb http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main01:48
valorieI've also had to list the browser as `firefox &`01:48
valorieto get it to work01:49
TeraJLi've tryed adding an entry on the launcher matchin rules (don't know very well what it does :/ ) but did not help01:49
valorieso you might try that as well01:49
TeraJLvalorie: ?01:50
valoriedunno why01:50
valorieor `chromium-browser ` as it is listed in Konversation01:51
TeraJLi found this, if any one get the same problem: https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=118633 , tthanks for the help02:02
cwideHey I was wondering if someone could help me. For some reason whenever I load any Linux distro my USB 2.0 ports don't work but my USB 3.0 ports DO work. Any ideas?03:20
valoriethat's odd03:21
cwideYeah tell me about it :/03:24
ardidoordie03:36
ardihi operator03:37
ardiI need help03:37
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georgelappieshi good people of Kubuntu08:59
georgelappiesany news on when we will get KDE 4.13.1 for Kubuntu 14.0408:59
yossarianuk4.13.2 is out now...09:15
yossarianuk((I mean KDE 4.13.2 is out - not for kubuntu)09:16
yossarianukyes09:16
yossarianukyetr09:16
yossarianukyet09:16
yossarianuk(god its early!)09:16
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Walexgeorgelappies: yossarianuk: Kubuntu PPA09:20
georgelappiesWalex: thanks, what is the exact PPA and steps?09:21
jubo2Ait..09:23
Walexgeorgelappies: good luck!09:23
georgelappiesWalex: :)09:23
jubo2the HDD -> SDD transfer while I was slept went well09:23
yossarianukDon't the point releases get put in the normal stable repo also ?09:23
jubo2Now I'm installing native Kubuntu on the SSD09:23
Walexyossarianuk: I hope not. Stable means stable.09:24
georgelappiesthe ppa and steps are here: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa09:27
georgelappiesyossarianuk: they used to be in the stable repos, not sure if 14.04 being an LTS has anything to with it09:27
georgelappiesanyhow, KDE point releases ussaully fixes much more than what it breaks :)09:28
yossarianukWalex: I mean double point releases really - i.e 4.13 -> 4.13.1 , etc09:31
yossarianukThere is nothing stable sable keeping packages with know bugs in - which are fixed in later versions....09:32
jubo2I gave it 2GB SWAP and 38GB root filesystem.. I hope it's gonna be ok09:32
yossarianukits the same with Nvidia - its insane not having the latest version (ubuntu devs can't even fix the nvidia driver packages...)09:32
jubo2the Windows .vdi I'm putting in shouldn't be bigger then 15 or 20GB09:33
yossarianuki.e keeping a version of nvidia driver which has known bugs (and supports less h/w than the newer versions.0-09:33
yossarianukjust my 2cents...09:33
Walexyossarianuk: actually keeping packages with known bugs in *is* stable: often people put in bug workaround that break is the bug gets fixed :-)09:33
yossarianukthe open source model works as a rolling release (imo).09:34
Walexyossarianuk: however LTS is supposed to get backports of bug fixes, even if no backports of whole new versions, like Debian.09:34
Walexyossarianuk: most free sw is a rolling release, but some distros like Debian, Ubuntu LTS, RHEL and similar ones try to take that risk out.09:35
georgelappiesi am with yossarianukon on this one :) better fix known bugs / exploits as soon as possible09:35
yossarianukwalex: Yes I know.. with things like KDE 4.x its never been a good idea to stay with the older version.09:35
yossarianukhowever09:35
yossarianukunless your running 4.13.2 now your missing out - on feature and bug fixes...09:35
yossarianukI understand have the core linux system as non rolling ... (i.e kernel, etc)09:36
georgelappiesif updating does not require replacing half of the system and jumping through hoops of fire I will update as it is available09:36
yossarianukAnyway i'd just like to say Kubuntu 14.04 has been truely awesome .. One of the least trouble free systems I have used..09:37
georgelappiesyeah, it blows my mind why Canonical did not gow with KDE as the default, anyway, thanks Jonathan and the rest of the awesome team of Kubuntu contributors ;)09:40
jubo2run 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade' now running 'sudo apt-get install virtualbox'09:47
jubo2how can I tell if I installed i386 or AMD64 ?09:54
jubo2I went with the default for Kubuntu 14.04 installer when downloading09:54
georgelappiesjubo2: uname -a09:54
georgelappiesfrom the command line09:54
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georgelappiesif it has this at the end: x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux it is amd6409:55
jubo2georgelappies: says i68609:55
georgelappiesthen it is the 32bit version09:55
georgelappiesi.e. the i386 version09:55
jubo2yeah.. but it's possible to escape the 4GB memory addresing limit09:55
jubo2I belive it is the expansion into 32+4 bits09:56
jubo2so being on 32 bit instead of 64 is no biggie.. plus shouldn't the drivers be more ample with 32-bit ?09:56
georgelappiesit is yes, need to recompile the kernel with PAE (not sure if the default ubuntu 32 bit already has this flag set ot not though)09:56
georgelappiesthe os can use more than 3.4gb of RAM, but 32 bit apps are still limited09:57
georgelappiesso with the 32bit os compiled for more than 3.4gb of ram, you can have more 32bit apps running at one time, however a 64bit app will have much, much ram available to use than its 32bit counterpart09:58
jubo2ok.. managed to install the VirtualBox. Now booting it09:59
georgelappieswill kubuntu 14.10 use KDE 5?10:05
jubo2Now transferring the .iso to drop into the VirtualBox10:07
yossarianukgeorgelappies: Linux has supported over 3.4GB in 32 bit mode for over a decade (PAE)10:24
yossarianukits only crappy os's that couldn't ...10:24
yossarianukThere is now no reason not to choose 64bit (it should be the default now.)10:25
georgelappiessure, but not all kernels has the flag set by default10:25
georgelappiesI agree, 64bit should be the default. only use 32bit if your hardware forces you to10:25
yossarianukgeorgelappies: ubuntu has had PAE by default since about 12.04...10:26
yossarianukhttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAyNzM10:26
georgelappiesthe last 32bit kernel I used was in slackware, I had to manually recompile and install the new kernel with PAE support. That was 5 years ago :)10:26
georgelappiesaah, ok yossarianuk, thanks for the link clearing that up. PAE is default from 12.0410:28
jmadhi, does kubuntu has a spyware as ubuntu?10:34
hateballjmad: What are you even talking about10:36
BluesKaj'Morning all10:37
jubo2God morgon BluesKaj10:37
BluesKajHi jubo210:38
jmadi saw Richard Stallman video and hes talking ubuntu has spyware from amazon10:38
BluesKajahh, coffee !10:39
BluesKajthe unity desktop , yes10:39
hateballWell, spyware is a bit extreme. RMS is... special10:39
hateballAlso afaik that is disabled by default in 14.0410:40
BluesKajI had a taste of unity, and quickly reinstalled kubuntu on 13.1010:41
Walexhateball: "spyware" is not extreme. Amazon do their worst to track you.10:42
Walexhateball: note that things like "webbugs" and other tricks are commonly used and also "spyware".10:43
BluesKajhaven't bothered trying unity since, not my cuppa tea10:43
WalexUnity is actually pretty good, quite usable, especially of course in "same stuff on different types of device", but KDE obviously is better for me and many others.10:44
BluesKajthe spyware thing not withstanding10:44
hateballAs does everyone else, may as well unplug the internet. At any rate it's opt-in now10:44
Walexhateball: it is not quite as dire as "may as well unplug the internet". One can be careful and simply avoid the worst and still get some usable level of service.10:45
Walexhateball: it would be a lot better if there were service providers that you could give money to and therefore be considered a customer by them instead of prey.10:46
hateballk10:47
BluesKajStallman wants to keep FOSS pure. He doesn't like the idea of sneaking commercial links on to a desktop.. declare your enterprise intentions like RHEL10:47
BluesKajand I agree with that stand10:48
WalexBluesKaj: I think that Stallman would disagree with you. Stallman is entirely in favour of commercial work and commercial software and business activities.11:02
WalexBluesKaj: what he does not like is work, software and business that limit his freedom of choice on how to operate his own equipment.11:03
WalexBluesKaj: so the issue is not that Amazon or Canonical are commercial businesses: it is that some "spyware" was put in to do stuff behind your back to limit your freedom of choice on how much information you want to give Amazon.11:04
BluesKajWalex, think his point was iiirc OSs should declare their commercial/enterprise links and intentions beforehand, that's all11:07
Walexnot so much "declare their  commercial/enterprise links and intentions11:08
Walexnot so much "declare their  commercial/enterprise links and intentions" but give you the choice on how much the software you use will share your own information with third parties, whether this is commercial or not.11:09
BluesKajwe have a link to amazon on the unity desktop , blah blah would you like to leave it out?...simple11:10
WalexBluesKaj: that would have been fine, what Canonical did was to send all your searches to Amazon by default without telling you, naughty naughty.11:11
WalexBTW note that something close to that but not quite that has been done by the amaroK people.11:11
BluesKajanyway it's immaterial to me, since kde seems to be free of such stuff, and I don't use amarok :)11:13
Walexmore broadly speaking most people still can't quite relate to software being under the control of the software author, which is not the case for most physical products, because they are passive rather than active stuff.11:13
Walexe.g. once someone has built a shovel, and sold you the shovel, the shovel does whatever *you* want.11:15
Walexthe issue with software is that software does whatever the software author's want, and what you think are commands to it are actually requests.11:15
Walexthis is what most people don't get: 'ls /' is not a command to list the root directory, it is a request to the author of 'ls' to make it list the root directory. The author of 'ls' can program 'ls' to do as requested or do anything else she wants.11:17
Almanohello13:06
Almanoi want to ask u sth13:06
The0x539just ask13:06
Almanohow can i make mine kubuntu look like opensuse 13.1?13:07
yossarianukAlmano: install a the,e13:07
yossarianuk*theme*13:07
gryas I said nobody knows what you mean, you need to find a screenshot online13:07
gryotherwise your question is incomplete13:07
Almanocan u tell me how to do it? i am new to linux;(13:08
BluesKajAlmano, install opensuse13:08
BluesKajthis is kubuntu support13:09
Almanoi want to have ubuntu still.:)13:09
Almanoyeah but i want to have kde on ubuntu with opensuse look13:09
Almanojust it13:09
BluesKajAlmano, forget it13:09
gryddg.gg type "opensuse kde desktop" click images, select an image you like, click it, give an URL here13:09
grysimple as that13:09
Almanowhy should i porget it?13:09
yossarianukAlmano: ok13:09
yossarianukAlmano: go to system-settings13:10
Almanook i am there13:10
gryhttp://news.opensuse.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/desktop4.png like this? what is the specific thing you like? the layout? or the color?13:10
yossarianukgo to workspace appaerance13:10
yossarianukgo to desktop theme13:10
yossarianukclick 'get new theme'13:11
yossarianukscroll down13:11
yossarianuk- and search open suse13:11
Almanoplz wait a bit:)13:11
yossarianuksorry *opensuse*13:11
Almanohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZhcMBJDNZc13:11
Almanoi mean dat look gry:)13:11
grythank you; please, follow what yossarianuk said and see if it helps13:12
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Almanook:) ill see:)13:12
Almanoits still not like it;/13:19
Almanowhy i can not install ncons? it says that it can not find file13:32
ikoniaAlmano: what is the exact error13:32
AlmanoCan not install " oxygen green". Can not find file13:32
ikoniaAlmano: how are you trying to install it13:33
Almanosystem setings -> icons13:33
Almanoand13:33
Almanodownload neew look13:33
ikoniaI'm not familier with that tool13:33
Almanoso what can i do?13:34
Almanoi want to install some icons suite for dark green themes13:34
ikoniaas I don't know the method you are using to install, I can't say13:35
Almanoso what is you method?13:35
ikonianormally uncompress the icons into my icon folder.13:36
ikoniabut I'm not fully aware of the current kde theme process13:36
Almanook.13:36
Almanoand how to change that blue auro of windows?13:36
Almanoto another color?13:37
Almanook ty for everything:) cya:)13:40
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novakittyFor the last few days, when I try to use Muon Updater or Muon Package Manager, it tells me I didn't provide proper authorization. This problem just appeared out of nowhere, it's worked fine up until now.15:09
novakittyIt's not prompting me for a root password15:10
BluesKajnovakitty, have you tried apt-get in the konsole?15:10
novakittyyes that works fine15:11
novakittymuon just isnt prompting me for authroization, it's just telling me I didn't provide it15:11
BluesKajgood then you can update/upgrade and dist-upgrade with no need for muon except aas a reference , but it may be an already registered bug on launchpad15:12
novakittythat's not really the advice I was hoping for...there's times when I like to rely on muon and times I like to use the terminal15:13
BluesKajnovakitty, then try chmod +x muon in the konsole15:15
novakittyI just wondered if an update broke something or if this has happened to anyone else15:16
novakittymuon executes already15:16
BluesKajnovakitty, it's new to me15:16
BluesKajok15:16
novakittylet me get you the exact error message15:16
BluesKajnovakitty, check this out, http://askubuntu.com/questions/103350/how-can-i-provide-proper-authorization-to-the-kde-software-updates-program15:19
novakitty"This operation cannot continue since proper authorization was not provided"15:19
BluesKaji have to go now ...stuff to do15:19
novakittythis happens when I attempt to install something, remove something, update, etc15:19
jaafarhi all... I just upgraded to Trusty and now the "system settings" won't come up.  That is, K Menu -> System Settings does nothing.....  It's kind of a problem.  Any tips?15:38
geniijaafar: Might want to try: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get purge systemsettings && sudo apt-get install systemsettings15:48
jaafargenii: I will give that a try, thanks!15:48
jaafarthis is interesting... I can't run "restart" either, from the same menu15:51
geniiYes, odd.15:52
geniijaafar: Can you get to the system settings now?15:54
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jaafargenii sadly no15:55
jaafarrestart also doesn't work15:55
jaafarboth just sort of silently fail15:55
jaafaris the a command line equivalent?15:55
rbergdoes "kdesudo systemsettings" in konsole allow you to re-enter your password?15:55
jaafaroh hey, "systemsettings"15:55
jaafaryep that works great!15:56
jaafarpity I can't do it from the K menu :(15:56
jaafarrberg thanks15:57
jaafaris there some config file somewhere that might be messed up?15:57
jaafarmaybe due to the version change...15:57
geniijaafar: Possibly the ~/.kde/share/config/systemsettingsrc15:58
jaafarthat sounds pretty logical, I'll take a look!15:58
jaafarnah, there's nothing in there that looks relevant16:00
jaafaroh hey, right click K menu and pick "edit applications"16:02
geniijaafar: To see if it's anything in the previous settings causing it, you can logoff to lightdm (hopefully!) and then ctrl-alt-F1, login and mv .kde .oldkde     then sudo sync and logoff, alt-F7 to get back to lightdm and see16:03
jaafargenii: that's a good trick, thanks!16:04
jaafarhm, well I created a fresh user and they have no issues with the system settings menu16:20
jaafaris there a log file where output from things launched might appear?16:21
jaafarthe fresh user's settings for the "system settings" item are the same as mine16:24
jaafarthink I'll try redoing my .kde.  Not much important there16:25
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jaafarAll right, genii I've just dumped my old .kde and everything is good.  Some stuff is a little not as I like it but that's fixable.  Thanks for your help16:34
geniijaafar: You're welcome16:34
SouL__Guys, do you know how to use the Nvidia GPU instead of the intel?16:45
mr-richtrying to mount my iPhone 5s ... any ideas?17:52
mr-rich14.0417:52
mr-richget it to work with Amarok ...17:52
ekkihi! anyone has trouble with locales after upgrade to kde 4.13.2? I can't set language to spanish17:58
geniimr-rich: Apparently it needs a newer version of libimobiledevice than what comes standard with Trusty. You may want to look at http://itsfoss.com/mount-iphone-ipad-ios-7-ubuntu-13-10/17:59
Almanohello. i have some issues with mine new ubuntu + kde-desktop. Music players freak out;/18:05
Almanoi can not use multimedia keys on my keybard to change volume18:06
Almanoit change only master volume18:06
Almanobut player volume is the same18:06
Almanocan someone help me?18:06
mr-richgenii: I saw that and tried to install, but it wouldn't install ...18:24
geniiProbably no 14.04 in the reases for it yet18:24
Almano want to change  that awfull kde menu18:30
geniimr-rich: Maybe contact the PPa maintainer and request a 14.04 version18:31
bpromptAlmano:    hmm change to...?18:31
bpromptAlmano:     as far as the  master and player's volume controls, they're usually independent18:32
mr-richgenii: found this: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/03/ios7-ipad-iphone-ubuntu-trust18:32
mr-richgenii: sez I have to reboot ... :(18:33
Almanook i solved it. i changed master volume from radeon to  motherboard18:33
Almano:)18:33
SouL__Guys, do you know how to use the Nvidia GPU instead of the intel?18:33
bpromptAlmano:    I use kde "classic menu" :)18:34
Almanoyeah but its too simple and that bigger one is to complicated18:35
Almanoi wanted it to look like...18:35
Almanohttp://www.mrowe.co.za/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/menu.png18:35
Almanothis:)18:35
bpromptAlmano:    I think that's more or less the "classic" menu18:36
geniiSouL__: Are you using the bumblebee drivers?18:37
bpromptyou can do that by just right-clicking on the "K" icon and choose "classic menu"18:37
Almanomine cclassic menu looks different;/18:37
SouL__genii: do you know how can I check that? please18:37
Almanobut its better than that :)18:37
Almanois there any custom menus?18:38
geniiSouL__: sudo apt-get update && apt-cache policy bumblebee18:38
jazzycoolhey guys18:38
jazzycoolI m trying to install softwares using terminal on my Kubuntu but not able to do so as it gives me this error18:39
nwegrzykhi all18:40
bpromptjazzycool:   "this error" ?18:40
jazzycoolhttp://pastebin.com/aYbghhQr18:40
jazzycoolhere is the error18:40
jazzycoolI would appreciate if you guys could help me out18:40
geniijaafar: Have you tried running the suggested command? eg:  sudo apt-get -f install18:41
jazzycoolyes I did but it gives me the same error18:42
jaafar:)18:42
geniiSorry, bat tab-complete there18:43
geniibad, even18:43
The0x539the Bat-Tabcomplete?18:43
bpromptjazzycool:     I'd try to get rid of those 2 packages... see if continues with the error18:43
jazzycoolcan you tell me the exact command as it is dealing with the video packages and I dont want to wreck my system as before18:44
bpromptAlmano:    you can always just run another window manager other than "kwin", and depending on what window manager you get, it can really fancy like "enlightment" or not, or have docks like xfce18:44
geniijazzycool: Did you install some PPA lately or so?18:46
bpromptjazzycool:     well, is dealing with 1 package only, doesn't mean will get rid of all video drivers,    " sudo apt-get remove arandr xserver-xorg-video-all18:46
jazzycoolnope all I did was get into additional driver gui winodw and installed a propeitary driver that was recommended and it was solved my graphics problem18:46
genii( because that's the usual cause of these messgaes, then after that mixed repositories between different *buntu versions)18:47
Almanook ty:) it was vey helpfull:)18:47
jazzycoolwell thing is I don't have arandr on my computer at all infect when I went into the software center it asked me to install those packages18:48
jazzycoolok great it actually solved my problem18:49
jazzycoolthanks a lot brother18:49
jazzycoolI appreciate your help you are a genius18:50
bpromptnp18:51
jazzycoolyou solved my big problem18:54
jazzycoolthanks brother18:54
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SouL__genii: Hey21:18
SouL__genii: http://paste.debian.net/plainh/78d780ee21:19
geniiSouL__: How about for bbswitch-dkms ?21:22
SouL__genii: thanks for helping.. What is that?21:25
geniiFrom apt-cache: bbswitch-dkms - Interface for toggling the power on nVidia Optimus video cards21:25
rbergjust wrote my first upstart job, much say its pretty nice!21:27
SouL__genii: I'll search, I don't know that. Thanks21:28
geniiSouL__: I probably won't be here much longer to help, but good luck with it!21:29
SouL__genii: thanks :)21:35
CrypticBytehow stable is kubuntu?  I been looking for a good kde distro23:04
saiarcot895CrypticByte: In my opinion, pretty stable23:07
saiarcot895I find it a little lighter than Unity23:07
CrypticBytedoes encrypting your home drive slow your computer down?23:11
saiarcot895CrypticByte: I haven't seen it, but I never compared the performance with and without encryption23:13
CrypticByteok thanks23:13
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