[01:10] <Max_Tither> Hello. Is anyone available?
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[07:06] <dholbach> good morning
[07:11] <dpm> morning t1mp, on the Reminders app, we've got a branch that migrates to the new header. However, the additional actions from the popover IMO don't look too good inside the UbuntuShape. Is there anything we can do to make them look better, or at least remove the UbuntuShape? -> http://i.imgur.com/GWEVYIe.png
[08:04] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Sewing Machine Day! :-D
[08:06] <justCarakas> :)
[08:23] <t1mp> dpm: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1329557 sshould be fixed already in UITK staging, but the fix is not in the image yet
[08:25] <dpm> t1mp, ok, cool, thanks for the heads up. Did you see my earlier ping about the actions list and what it looks like in Reminders?
[08:29] <t1mp> dpm: no I didn't see that
 morning t1mp, on the Reminders app, we've got a branch that migrates to the new header. However, the additional actions from the popover IMO don't look too good inside the UbuntuShape. Is there anything we can do to make them look better, or at least remove the UbuntuShape? -> http://i.imgur.com/GWEVYIe.png
[08:30] <dpm> popey, I've kicked off a trusty build of the mediascanner packages in the silo jamesh mentioned, hoping that it'll help the music guys
[08:31] <t1mp> dpm: ah. My irc client doesn't highlight me if my nickname is not the first word of the message
[08:31] <t1mp> dpm: there are new designs for the popover, it won't be a real popover any more, but something more attached to the header
[08:31] <dpm> t1mp, ah, oh, then I shall not greet you first from now on ;)
[08:31] <t1mp> dpm: those visual changes will happen, but first I have to add some additional functionality to the header
[08:32] <t1mp> dpm: there's nothing that the app developers have to do about it
[08:32] <dpm> t1mp, ok. Do you know when the functionality + design changes will land? Not critical to us if it means developers get the changes transparently, just asking out of curiosity
[08:34] <t1mp> everything should happen within a month
[08:36] <t1mp> dpm: this header blueprint is almost done https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+spec/new-header but I will create a new one soon to track the even newer changes more easily
[08:36] <popey> dpm: great.
[08:38] <dpm> t1mp, awesome, thanks for the update
[08:39] <popey> dpm: looks like image #80 has the new eds from renato which fixes bug 1328144
[08:40] <dpm> ah, nice, I'll update, then
[08:58] <Szymon_> Hi I have a question
[08:59] <Szymon_> I am programmer and I make some apps on Android
[08:59] <Szymon_> it is profitable to make it to Ubuntu center?
[09:00] <Szymon_> if yes, tell me why?
[09:03] <dholbach> dpm, popey, mhall119: I had to disable another test on armhf to make https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/+recipe/trojita-daily build again - JFYI
[09:05] <popey> Szymon_: ubuntu desktop or phone?
[09:10] <dpm> thanks dholbach!
[09:10] <Szymon_> phone
[09:11] <Szymon_> but I of course do this on destop it is much easier?
[09:12] <Szymon_> but I can do this of course on destop. It is much easier.
[09:14] <popey> Szymon_: the phone is currently under development with no devices shipping yet with Ubuntu pre-installed. The store doesn't yet have paid apps support - but it's coming.
[09:14] <popey> I'll let you figure out if you think it's profitable right now ㋛
[09:15] <popey> bzoltan: Good morning. Just highlighting that your team picked up a few work items at http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1406-ubuntu-sdk-feedback and I wanted to make sure you took note or put them in whatever "to do" list you keep stuff in. Thanks! :D
[09:16] <dholbach> popey, in Malta we talked about the app dev training programme and I noted down "popey	help with videos" - do you still remember what this was about and if it's still relevant after yesterday's session?
[09:16] <popey> dholbach: i think that was basically me recording screencasts and narrating / editing videos?
[09:17] <popey> nik90: good morning! in http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1406-ubuntu-core-apps-weekly-hangout we have a couple of items with no names. Do you recall if anyone volunteered. I have a feeling I may have volunteered for the test apps in emulator?? Memory hazy. sorry.
[09:18] <nik90> popey: the first item is actually for everyone (core app devs, yourself too :) )
[09:18] <dholbach> popey, yeah... that's what I remember as well... would this be screencasts for the "workshop" part of the training? like the "solution" to the exercises?
[09:18] <nik90> popey: the second work item is for me
[09:18] <popey> dholbach: pass, dont recall the specifics
[09:18] <dholbach> popey, it sounds like "phase 2" material, so probably nothing we'd do in the next 3-4 weeks, right? if so, we can just discuss it in the next training planning session
[09:18] <popey> nik90: ok, will Trelloize.
[09:18] <popey> yes dholbach
[09:18]  * dholbach hugs popey
[09:18] <popey> \o/
[09:19]  * nik90 likes Trelloize
[09:19] <dholbach> popey, not "trelloise"?
[09:19] <dpm> trolling anyone?
[09:20] <dholbach> looks a bit like tortoise, but "ise" would be the usual British suffix, right? :)
[09:21] <popey> Trelling.
[09:21] <popey> yes dholbach
[09:21] <popey> I was deliberately making a mistake for the international audience ☻
[09:22] <popey> as our queeen says:- "There is no such thing as 'American English'. There is English. And there are mistakes.". https://twitter.com/Queen_UK/status/476630784108134400
[09:26] <dpm> dholbach, I kicked off a build for the mediascanner2 packages in the core apps PPA for the music app devs, but it seems to have failed in armhf due to a missing dependency - any ideas why the i386 and amd64 builds did not fail on that missing dependency? -> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/+archive/daily/+build/6094862
[09:27] <dholbach> one sec
[09:27] <ahayzen> dpm, dbus-cpp-3 is not in trusty
[09:28] <ahayzen> dpm, popey built it in a utopic PPA and then copied the debs across IIRC ?
[09:28] <dpm> dholbach, ah, got it, no worries
[09:28] <dholbach> ah yes, that makes a lot of sense
[09:28] <dholbach> I guess the PPA popey used did not have armhf builds?
[09:28] <dpm> dholbach, the dependency is in that same PPA, but it failed to build for armhf too
[09:29] <ahayzen> dholbach, no don't think so ... think this is the one https://launchpad.net/~popey/+archive/staging/+packages
[09:29] <dpm> ahayzen, yes, that's right, it's in the PPA in fact, just not for armhf
[09:29] <dholbach> The following tests FAILED:
[09:29] <dholbach> 	  1 - bus_test (Timeout)
[09:29] <dholbach> 	  3 - dbus_test (Timeout)
[09:29] <dholbach> 	  4 - executor_test (Timeout)
[09:29] <dholbach> 	 12 - service_test (Timeout)
[09:29] <dholbach> 	 13 - service_watcher_test (Timeout)
[09:29] <dholbach> 	 14 - signal_delivery_test (Timeout)
[09:29] <dholbach> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/176859934/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-armhf.dbus-cpp_3.0.0%2B14.10.20140507-0ubuntu1~ppa~trusty0_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[09:30] <popey> ahh, right dpm
[09:30] <dholbach> the PPA builders are probably slower
[09:30] <dpm> ahayzen, in any case, if you want to test the mediascanner2 fixes that jamesh was mentioning this morning, I've put them in the core apps PPA (only for i386 and amd64)
[09:30] <ahayzen> dpm, awesome \o/
[09:30]  * ahayzen runs update manager
[09:30] <dpm> so if you do apt-get update you should get the new mediascanner2
[09:30] <dholbach> I use this patch to disable tests on armhf: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/+junk/trojita-packaging/view/head:/patches/01-make-some-tests-optional
[09:31] <dpm> dholbach, so you think we should reupload dbus-cpp to the PPA with that patch?
[09:32] <dholbach> with a similar patch, which disables the tests above
[09:32] <dholbach> and maybe let tvoss know
[09:43] <dpm> nik90, I've started looking at the cmake for clock this morning, but it might take me a while still. I've also created a series for the clock reboot, using the branch you created. So now you should be able to check it out with simply 'bzr branch lp:ubuntu-clock-app/reboot'
[09:43] <nik90> dpm: ah it was you who created the reboot series..nice
[09:43] <dpm> :)
[09:44] <dpm> now we can also set milestones for the series
[09:44] <nik90> dpm: no worries, we have time. Let me know if you need any help or question about why I defined something there in the way it is
[09:44] <dpm> ok, cool
[09:44] <nik90> dpm: true
[09:46] <dpm> could someone perhaps have a look at this branch? https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/ubuntu-weather-app/desktop-i18n-1325626-1318008/+merge/222417 it seems Martin might be busy and it'd be nice to get this merged and Weather to appear translated in the list of apps
[09:48] <nik90> dpm: it looks very similar to the branch we merged in the clock app. I will compare them both and do a review.
[09:49] <dpm> nik90, cool, thanks. Yeah, it should be exactly the same
[10:05] <dpm> zbenjamin, if I create a template with "App with QML Extension Library", I see there is a cmake/ folder created which contains a CMake module for Click. However, I don't think it's being used. If I do a "find_package(Click)" on the top CMakeLists.txt file, I don't see it listed under the project tree, either. Any ideas on how to make Qt Creator see it?
[10:06] <zbenjamin> dpm: ups, seems that i forgot to remove that
[10:06] <dpm> hi rpadovani! I left a comment on https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/reminders-app/newHeader/+merge/220291 - I think if you could just do that small change, we should be ready to land
[10:06] <zbenjamin> dpm: its not supposed to be used because the templates don'T support non click mode
[10:07] <rpadovani> dpm, o/. Yes, I'll take a look in 5 minutes
[10:07] <dpm> zbenjamin, yeah, I saw some duplicate rules. But I actually want to use it for a new core app (clock reboot). How can I make Qt Creator load that module?
[10:08] <t1mp> dpm: fyi, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+spec/new-header-extensions
[10:09] <dpm> t1mp, great, thanks!
[10:09] <dpm> hi rpadovani, and thanks :)
[10:10] <ahayzen> dpm, latest mediascanner2 still fails :/
[10:10] <zbenjamin> dpm: i think i used include instead of find_package
[10:11] <dpm> ahayzen, yeah I feared so, as I said on my reply to James :/ Would you mind replying too to confirm it fails?
[10:11] <ahayzen> dpm, yep will do
[10:11] <nik90> zbenjamin: I have an interesting issue. On creating a x86 emulator and asking QtC to autocreate a device kit, it chose the armhf version of the 14.10 framework. And it still works
[10:11] <dpm> thanks ahayzen
[10:11] <dpm> nik90, that's probably because you are not building any binaries
[10:12] <nik90> dpm: but this is the new clock app that I am testing and it has a c++ qml plugin.
[10:12] <dpm> otherwise the binaries would build but would fail to load on the other arch
[10:12] <nik90> so it is definitely building it
[10:12] <dpm> nik90, yes, building it, but are you using the plugin already?
[10:12] <nik90> dpm: no
[10:13] <nik90> that makes sense
[10:13] <dpm> so my hunch is that it'd be build in the other arch, and when you'd try to use it, it'd fail to load it
[10:13] <dpm> *built
[10:13] <zbenjamin> nik90: we already have a fix for autocreate using the wrong framwork, it just needs to land
[10:14] <nik90> zbenjamin: ah sweet...the fixes keep coming ..awesoem
[10:16] <dpm> zbenjamin, neither find_package(Click) nor include(Click) seem to load the module in Qt Creator. Any ideas?
[10:17] <zbenjamin> dpm: include(cmake/Click)
[10:18] <bzoltan> popey: they will be scheduled to our backlogs. Thanks.
[10:27] <rpadovani> dpm and.. here we are :-) https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/reminders-app/newHeader/+merge/220291
[10:30] <dpm> rpadovani, awesome, testing now...
[10:31] <t1mp> rpadovani: you can test your branch with UITK staging to verify that https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1329557 was fixed
[10:32] <t1mp> interesting, ubot5 shows the title of the bug that I marked it as a duplicate of, not the bug in the link
[10:32] <dpm> rpadovani, sorry, my fault, I should have probably made a decision earlier, but would you mind changing the default action in a note from "Add reminder" to "Edit"?
[10:34] <rpadovani> dpm, OMG, I'm totally out of mind, I wanted to set "Edit"as default, but I realize right now that I've red "Edit Reminder" and thinked was the Edit icon. Sorry, updating now
[10:34] <dpm> rpadovani, np, as I say, it was my fault for not being clearer
[10:36] <rpadovani> t1mp, sure, how can I do that?
[10:36] <rpadovani> dpm, updated
[10:37] <dpm> updating...
[10:37] <dpm> rpadovani, I think what t1mp says is that you can add the SDK staging PPA, upgrade the SDK packages and then test reminders against that
[10:38] <rpadovani> dpm, cool, thanks, doing it right now
[10:39] <dpm> rpadovani, approved branch, thank you!
[10:40] <rpadovani> thanks to you
[10:40] <t1mp> bzoltan / Mirv do we have a ppa that always contains the latest UITK from staging?
[10:41] <rpadovani> t1mp, there is ppa:ubuntu-sdk-team/staging
[10:42] <t1mp> rpadovani: you can branch lp:~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/staging && cd staging && qmake && make && source export_modules_dir.sh and run your app on desktop
[10:42] <t1mp> rpadovani: yes I'm checking that one, but it seems not to have the latest staging in the ppa
[10:42] <dpm> t1mp, yes, the PPA rpadovani is pointing to is the SDK team's staging PPA
[10:42] <rpadovani> t1mp, ok, so I'll use your suggestion to run it
[10:43] <t1mp> when I check https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/+archive/staging I don't see UITK packages
[10:44] <dpm> t1mp, are they not cleared once they make it to the staging PPA? Best thing is to ask bzoltan
[10:44] <nik90> t1mp, dpm: I dont see the UITK packages in the release ppa as well!
[10:44] <nik90> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=trusty
[10:45] <dpm> wth
[10:45] <nik90> actually nvr mind
[10:45] <nik90> i panicked
[10:45] <bzoltan> nik90: dpm: t1mp: i was asked (told) not to release the UITK to the SDK PPA anymore
[10:45] <t1mp> nik90: uitk is on your link
[10:45] <nik90> bzoltan: what really?
[10:45] <dpm> what?
[10:45] <t1mp> bzoltan: do we have a ppa with the latest packages built from our staging?
[10:46] <t1mp> bzoltan: or is this the way to go? 12:42:10 < t1mp> rpadovani: you can branch lp:~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/staging && cd staging && qmake && make && source  export_modules_dir.sh and run your app on desktop
[10:46] <t1mp> for me it is fine to just branch from lp, I have 10 different uitk branches around all the time anyway so I don't need the ppa
[10:46] <dpm> bzoltan, I think that's fine for utopic, but what's the plan for the SDK in trusty now?
[10:47] <bzoltan> t1mp:  no, I do not release to staging to other place than the landing silos
[10:48] <bzoltan> dpm:  I was told that the UITK is not a trusty desktop asset.
[10:49] <t1mp> bzoltan: ok. Do you think it is a good idea to get a staging PPA? That way we can always run staging on our device so we test all the changes even before creating a landing silo (and silo can be set to tested almost instantly)
[10:50] <rpadovani> t1mp, Project ERROR: Unknown module(s) in QT: organizer quick-private qml-private What should I install? I don't find any package with similar names
[10:51] <bzoltan> t1mp:  we have a staging PPA
[10:52]  * dpm goes for lunch
[10:52] <bzoltan> t1mp: all we need is to set up ourstaging branch and the jenkins to release the staging to the staging PPA
[10:54] <t1mp> rpadovani: try sudo apt-get build-dep ubuntu-ui-toolkit
[10:55] <rpadovani> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:55] <rpadovani>  qtbase5-private-dev : Depends: qtbase5-dev (= 5.2.1+dfsg-1ubuntu14.2) but 5.2.1+dfsg-1ubuntu15~trusty1~test1 is to be installed
[10:55] <rpadovani> E: Build-dependencies for ubuntu-ui-toolkit could not be satisfied.
[10:55] <rpadovani> t1mp, ^^
[10:55] <rpadovani> I'm on trusty
[10:57] <t1mp> bzoltan: ^ do you know what's the issue here?
[10:57] <t1mp> rpadovani: I am also on trusty... let's ask bzoltan he knows package management better
[10:59] <Mirv> t1mp: a recipe build could be easily set up
[11:00] <t1mp> Mirv: are all the ppas on https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team still used? It is a bit confusing for me to have testing, staging, experimental.. I wouldn't know which one to use from the name only
[11:01] <Mirv> rpadovani: a month ago there was a qtbase update for a moment in the SDK PPA. the easiest way to fix your problem would be probably: 1. sudo apt-get install ppa-purge 2. sudo ppa-purge ppa:ubuntu-sdk-team/ppa - you can add it back later though, but that downgrades to the correct qtbase version
[11:01] <Mirv> it's just that the real update to trusty archives has a lower version number because of how those updates are numbered
[11:01] <rpadovani> Mirv, thanks, I try
[11:01] <bzoltan> t1mp:  you have a todo from the UOS :) "[t1mp] Support richtext format in Header text: TODO"
[11:02] <nik90> t1mp: feel free to thank me for that todo :P
[11:02] <Mirv> t1mp: the PPA:s other than the release one are just founded when there has been a need to work on multiple things in parallel. the names don't usually mean that much, and they are used only sporadically AFAIK. but the 'staging' could be dedicated for doing the recipe build.
[11:03] <t1mp> nik90, bzoltan ok, I added it here https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+spec/new-header-extensions
[11:03] <bzoltan> t1mp:  nice, thanks
[11:07] <Mirv> t1mp: I created a recipe now at https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/+recipe/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-stagingbranch-daily and the result should go to that staging PPA
[11:09] <t1mp> Mirv: cool, thanks
[11:09] <t1mp> Mirv: do you think it would not work on trusty?
[11:10] <t1mp> I know that UITK is not a "trusty desktop asset", but... but.. it can be really useful if you can test an app with the latest uitk on trusty
[11:10] <Mirv> t1mp: you probably know better if it'd work on trusty? but that's one tick away to try building from both, no problem.
[11:10] <t1mp> Mirv: cool, thanks
[11:10] <t1mp> Mirv: I run trusty, and uitk from lp branches works for me
[11:11] <Mirv> then it'll probably work. we should see in around 30 mins.
[11:11] <t1mp> Mirv: awesome :)
[11:11] <Mirv> no prob!
[11:32] <dpm-lunch> popey, I will be a bit late for the core apps call, jusr coming back from lunch
[11:38] <karni> Who knows where the scope template code lives? Does it belong in qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu ?
[11:42] <popey> dpm-lunch: no worries, I have a broken laptop to fix
[11:47] <popey> dpm: cant join as it wont recognise i installed gtalk plugin...
[11:48] <dpm> popey, np, let's talk once you've sorted the gtalk issues
[11:51] <dholbach> popey, is everything on http://pad.ubuntu.com/UOSWorkItems on the trello board already?
[11:51] <popey> yes
[11:51] <dholbach> cool :)
[12:13] <nik90> t1mp: ping
[12:14] <nik90> t1mp: actually nvr mind..I need to rethink some stuff before asking you
[12:27] <ahayzen> nik90, ping
[12:27] <nik90> ahayzen: pong
[12:28] <ahayzen> nik90, just fixing the making files visible in qtcreator....u don't think i need to show the debian/* as well do i?
[12:28] <nik90> ahayzen: no you don't have to
[12:31] <ahayzen> nik90, cool, that should be fixed now please rereview when u have a moment :)
[12:32] <popey> Elleo: you about?
[12:32] <Elleo> popey: yep?
[12:33] <popey> got a sec to join us in #ubuntu-touch-meeting ?
[12:33] <Elleo> popey: sure
[12:33] <nik90> ahayzen: sure will do
[12:38] <nik90> ahayzen: a quick question. After opening the music app as a cmake project in qtcreator, I am unable to run it on my laptop. I get the error "Could not open desktop file for reading". I know it is not related to your branch, but is there a bug report about it?
[12:38] <ahayzen> nik90, thats the thing with the missing .desktop in the wrong place no?
[12:38] <ahayzen> nik90, i usually go and modify the project run settings myself...but yes that needs fixing in a separate branch
[12:39] <nik90> ahayzen: so if I add a static desktop file with the proper name then it should work?
[12:39] <ahayzen> nik90, i assume, never tried it myself
[12:39] <nik90> ahayzen: yeah we should fix that if possible to make the new contributor workload easier.
[12:39] <ahayzen> nik90, yep :)
[12:39] <nik90> ahayzen: pretty sure there was a bug report covering all core apps regarding this issue
[12:39] <ahayzen> nik90, wht is left otherwise to fully make the transition to cmake?
[12:40] <nik90> ahayzen: I guess removing the .qmlproject file?
[12:40] <nik90> ahayzen: tbh I am not entirely sure what is left.
[12:40] <ahayzen> nik90, yeah i guess, once this lands, the running is sorted, that would be it
[12:41] <nik90> ahayzen: it looks like your pot file generation also uses cmake. so it is almost there :D
[12:41] <ahayzen> nik90, :) who took the work item to move music-app to cmake? ... sounds like it is gonna be quite simple :)
[12:41] <nik90> ahayzen: lol
[12:50] <nik90> ahayzen: approved..just one thing though, mind asking popey or dpm to quickly do a click install of the branch to see if they still work. I don't want to see the music app not installing or anything due to cmake changes.
[12:51] <ahayzen> dpm, popey, ^^ ? this is the mp https://code.launchpad.net/~andrew-hayzen/music-app/make-files-visible-in-qtcreator/+merge/220997
[12:55]  * popey branches
[12:57] <popey> ahayzen: whats the fudge for "could not open desktop file"
[12:57] <popey> I mean, can't we fix that properly?
[12:57] <ahayzen> popey, yeah thts....
[12:58] <ahayzen> nik90, this is the bug right ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1291906
[12:58] <nik90> ahayzen: +
[12:59] <ahayzen> nik90, can cmake itself not copy/make the .desktop into the right place before running?
[12:59] <ahayzen> nik90, otherwise u end up with two .desktop's to maintain
[12:59] <nik90> ahayzen: no idea..all I know is that this issue is also due to a bug in the qtcreator ubuntu plugin.
[13:00] <nik90> ahayzen: which zbenjamin confirmed yesterday
[13:00] <karni> mhall119: Do you happen to know who wrote the "Click packaging" part of http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/scopes/sdk-14.04/index/ ?
[13:00] <ahayzen> nik90, this is the same for Ctrl+F12 and just running locally right?
[13:00] <nik90> ahayzen: yes
[13:00] <zbenjamin> ahayzen: nik90: this will be solved soon, do not adapt your projects to work with this quirk
[13:00] <nik90> ahayzen: although with cmake, there is no Ctrl+F12 anymore..you just choose the kit and run in the specific device
[13:01] <karni> mhall119: I'm having hard time trying to click package a c++ scope.
[13:01] <ahayzen> popey, ^^
[13:01] <ahayzen> zbenjamin, ok thanks
[13:01] <nik90> zbenjamin: is there a bug report tracking this?
[13:02] <zbenjamin> nik90: i don't think so. Would you guys be up for some testing when i have a fix ready and in a staging ppa?
[13:02] <karni> alecu: is unity-scope-click click packaged?
[13:02] <nik90> zbenjamin: sure as long it is easy to install and test
[13:03] <zbenjamin> nik90: awesome i'll ping you when i have it ready for testing
[13:04] <nik90> zbenjamin: awesome.thnx
[13:04] <alecu> karni: it is not. There's only one sample scope packaged as click at this time
[13:04] <alecu> karni: the soundcloud scope (it's already on the apps store)
[13:04] <karni> alecu: unfortunately, that's a Go scope
[13:05] <alecu> karni: ah, good point.
[13:06] <alecu> karni: let me put you in touch with the guy working on packaging scopes
[13:06] <karni> alecu: please do
[13:06] <karni> :)
[13:34] <ahayzen> nik90, does click-buddy work for you on that branch...it seems to break for me
[13:35] <nik90> ahayzen: I will check it in about 30 mins if that is okay. Just had a break with the bottom panel
[13:36] <ahayzen> nik90, no problem, hows your bottom panel going?
[13:36] <nik90> ahayzen: I have almost completed the implementation on a sample app.
[13:36] <nik90> ahayzen: tweaking a little bit at the moment
[13:37] <ahayzen> nik90, yey \o/
[13:37] <ahayzen> nik90, do you need the pagestack animations as well or is yours different?
[13:37] <nik90> ahayzen: I dont need the pagestack animation since the panel component seems to have a nice transition by itself
[13:37] <nik90> ahayzen: I will send you code when I am done to see if that's what you want in the music app
[13:38] <ahayzen> nik90, ah cool, yeah we are using it for out toolbar at the moment....but need to figure out a way to link that to show the now playing page
[13:40] <dpm> ahayzen, nik90, thanks, I'll see if I can have a look at it later on
[13:41] <ahayzen> dpm, thanks mine seems to be complaining about something when i run click-buddy to try and make a .click but i can see everything in qtcreator now which is nice :)
[13:41] <dpm> ahayzen, cool. What's the error you're getting?
[13:42] <ahayzen> dpm, CMake Error at cmake_install.cmake:59 (FILE):
[13:42] <ahayzen>   file INSTALL encountered an empty string input file name.
[13:44] <dpm> ahayzen, hm, no idea off the top of my head. Does the .cmake file give you more info on which file name it is missing?
[13:44] <ahayzen> dpm, i've been reading through the .cmake at the point where it is and i can't see anything obvious
[13:45] <ahayzen> dpm, this is the .cmake it creates... http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7638935/
[13:45] <ahayzen> dpm, maybe line 85 looks a bit suspicious
[13:46] <dpm> balloons, elopio, could you give us a hand with the reminders test in Jenkins? They seem to be failing again, but I'm not sure why -> on the 2 branches from rpadovani at https://code.launchpad.net/reminders-app/+activereviews
[13:47] <dpm> ahayzen, hm, that line is indeed a bit strange. It seems to be combining your LP id with the branch name?
[13:48] <ahayzen> dpm, yeah that is one of the extra file qtcreator makes....hmm maybe if i just tidy that directory of all the files qtcreator sometimes makes it'll be ok...
[13:48] <ahayzen> dpm, maybe because i attempted to do publish within qtcreator it has become confused?
[13:49] <dpm> ahayzen, not sure. It shouldn't get confused, but as much as I like QtC, you never know :)
[13:49] <ahayzen> dpm, the ~andrew-hayzen-make-files-visible-in-qtcreator-01.json gets created when i open the project :/
[13:50] <elopio> dpm: well, now I don't see any segfault, which is good.
[13:50] <dpm> elopio, I like your optimism! :)
[13:51] <dpm> ahayzen, ah, yeah, I've seen qtc creating apparmor.json files with the name of the top-level dir. What I find strange is the "~" in front of the directory name
[13:51] <elopio> dpm: did you change something on reminders to get it working again?
[13:51] <ahayzen> dpm, ah that is my working directory name as this is branched from lp...
[13:51] <ahayzen> dpm, let me try in my other directory
[13:52] <ahayzen> dpm, /home/andy/Workspace/sdk/~andrew-hayzen-make-files-visible-in-qtcreator-01 is its directory
[13:52] <dpm> ahayzen, weird, when it's branched from lp, it should not add the "~"
[13:52] <dpm> nothing wrong with it, it's a valid name, just a bit confusing
[13:53] <ahayzen> dpm, that may be me ... because it usually just suggests the same name as the lp url ... then i just remove the slashes lol
[13:53] <dpm> aha :)
[13:53] <dpm> I think that solves the mystery, but it still doesn't answer why cmake is failing
[13:54] <dpm> elopio, no, we didn't change anything. balloons got a couple of other branches that were failing to be merged by approving a few times, but IIRC he didn't change the code
[13:54] <nik90> t1mp: ping (now I really need you)
[13:55] <ahayzen> dpm, ok so running it in the other directory (/home/andy/Workspace/sdk/music-app-fix-cmake-qtcreator) click-buddy and cmake worked \o/
[13:55] <ahayzen> dpm, it must not like the ~ ?
[13:55] <t1mp> nik90: ok, shoot
[13:55] <dpm> ahayzen, ah, cool, glad we got it sorted
[13:56] <nik90> t1mp: is it possible to override the back function of a page which is pushed into a pagestack?
[13:56] <ahayzen> dpm, yeah :) bit strange ... but i'll try and remember not to sure things with ~ in them lol
[13:56] <mhall119> karni: those docs come from mhr3 from the scopes API package
[13:56] <nik90> t1mp: second what are the animating and animate property in the panel component for?
[13:56] <nik90> t1mp: can I adjust how fast the panel swipes up and down?
[13:56] <t1mp> nik90: yes. Currently Page.tools.back.action, soon Page.head.backAction
[13:57] <karni> mhall119: thank you
[13:58] <t1mp> nik90: the Toolbar component is inherited from the Panel, and Toolbar needs that
[13:58] <mhall119> np
[13:58] <t1mp> nik90: when switching between apps, and re-activating an app in the background, it should always open the toolbar when you switch back to it (but without showing the animation
[13:58] <t1mp> nik90: that's what the animate property was used for.
[13:59] <nik90> t1mp: ah yes I remember. But can I change how fast the animation is?
[13:59] <nik90> t1mp: it is a bit fast in my opinion.I would like to reduce that similar to the dialer app which uses a custom implementation.
[13:59] <t1mp> nik90: Panel still has open() and close() functions that show the panel opening/closing (if it has contents) when animate is true (default)
[14:00] <t1mp> nik90: uhm.. let me check
[14:01] <t1mp> nik90: can you report a bug for a configurable Panel open() speed (with use case)?
[14:01] <nik90> t1mp: yes definitely
[14:01] <t1mp> nik90: the (internal) transitionDuration was fine for the toolbar, but if you have a larger component it is probably too fast
[14:01] <nik90> t1mp: yeah that's exactly my issue
[14:02] <nik90> t1mp: btw, what is the benefit of placing stuff inside the contents[] of a panel? It works even without it.
[14:02] <nik90> t1mp: as in I initially placed the contents of the panel inside panel{}..only after reading the docs more did I place it inside panel { contents [] }
[14:03] <popey> thanks
[14:03] <brendand> popey :)
[14:03] <t1mp> nik90: contents is the default property, so saying Panel { Item { id: myItem } } is the same as adding myItem to Panel.contents
[14:03] <popey> has _anyone_ seen the white screen / lock up when running filemanager outside autopilot?
[14:03] <nik90> t1mp: ah ok...are the panel contents unloaded when the panel is hidden?
[14:03] <t1mp> nik90: probably Panel can get some more improvements now, it used to be used only for the Toolbar. I'm not sure if I will have time to work on Panel though before RTM
[14:04] <brendand> elopio, we can't debug the filemanager issues though unless everything is up to date
[14:04] <nik90> t1mp: renato gave me http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~renatofilho/address-book-app/new-designer-contact-list/view/head:/src/imports/ContactList/PageWithBottomEdge.qml which is what they use in the dialer and contacts app
[14:04] <nik90> t1mp: and I was able to reduce that code base by about 30% by using the panel component
[14:04] <t1mp> nik90: no, panel contents stays visible (but out-of-the view, so you don't see it)
[14:05] <t1mp> nik90: cool, that's nice :)
[14:05] <nik90> t1mp: ok..also when I run their code, I get the sdk warningn that a page cannot be placed inside another page.
[14:05] <renato> nik90, can you share the code with us :D
[14:05] <nik90> which made me a little concerned
[14:06] <nik90> renato: ofcourse..I am fine tuning the code at the moment. I just finished it 5 mins ago :)
[14:06] <elopio> t1mp: and done here: https://code.launchpad.net/~elopio/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/closeActionsPopover-test_modules/+merge/223078
[14:06] <popey> brendand: elopio white screen in file manager happens at start, or part way through app, how does it get triggered?
[14:06] <brendand> popey, haven't seen white screen. i have seen getting stuck at the 'load' animation
[14:07] <brendand> popey, but i'm not running the latest file manager, so i don't trust anything at the moment
[14:09] <nik90> t1mp: I didn't understand the bit about Page.tools.back.action..do you have a code sample for that alone
[14:09] <nik90> that was my last question
[14:10] <t1mp> nik90: tools is an instance of ToolbarItems
[14:10] <t1mp> nik90: see http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-14.04/Ubuntu.Components.ToolbarItems/#back-prop
[14:10] <t1mp> nik90: it has a back-Item. If you use a ToolbarButton for that (like the other toolbar buttons), and set its action property, that will be the new back action in the header
[14:10] <t1mp> nik90: it is there for the automatic toolbar-to-header transition. the new API will be documented properly :)
[14:11] <popey> brendand: i can trigger a unity8 crash in #81 by adding filemanager to the launcher and launching from there if the phone is locked.
[14:11] <elopio> popey: I don't know how it's triggered. balloons was looking into it earlier this week.
[14:11] <popey> just triggered a crash on two devices
[14:11] <nik90> t1mp: ah ok..thnx
[14:11] <t1mp> nik90: I hope to get the new at least in our staging next week
[14:13] <nik90> t1mp: http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-14.04/Ubuntu.Components.ToolbarItems/#back-prop doesn't work with the new headers though...on adding a custom triggered signal, I noticed that it is ignored and the page is just poped
[14:13] <nik90> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7639074/
[14:15] <t1mp> nik90: the new header only works with Actions. It is currently a workaround until we have the new API
[14:16] <t1mp> nik90: try back: Button {  action: Action { onTriggered: doSomething(); text: "hello" } }
[14:16] <t1mp> nik90: so if you set the action property of the back Button, the header will use that information for the header back action
[14:17] <nik90> t1mp: yeah that seems to work. thnx
[14:18] <t1mp> nik90: sorry for the messy API. It will be fixed soon :)
[14:18] <nik90> t1mp: no worries, I am using it before it is released
[14:44] <brendand> elopio, where's your other filemanager branch?
[15:02] <elopio> brendand: https://code.launchpad.net/~elopio/ubuntu-filemanager-app/clean_context_menu_tests/+merge/222888
[15:02] <popey> balloons: speaking of calendar... should i try testing that for upload?
[15:02] <elopio> brendand: please, be mean on your review.
[15:02] <balloons> popey, I got a little ways with barry but didn't solve it
[15:02] <balloons> popey, I found a qml error I'm concerned about as well.. but we'll knock it out today
[15:02] <t1mp> elopio: did you also remove the select_single('Header') from the ubuntu-file-manager?
[15:03] <elopio> t1mp: I didn't. I was looking at the current failed tests.
[15:03] <t1mp> elopio: you mentioned in this MR https://code.launchpad.net/~tpeeters/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/98-DeprecateHeader/+merge/221935 that filemanager may use that
[15:03] <t1mp> elopio: ok
[15:03] <elopio> t1mp: I can do it as soon as I finish testing the sdk silo.
[15:03] <elopio> *if I ever finish*
[15:03] <popey> balloons: yeah, I'd love to update calendar
[15:04] <t1mp> elopio: sure, cool. let me know when you do it. I wanted to check the apps for my MR, but I didn't have time with this QtCS
[15:04] <t1mp> *I didn't ahve time YET
[15:04] <t1mp> *have
[15:31] <brendand> popey, is there a bug against filemanager for the 'white screen' issue?
[15:32] <popey> brendand: not that I can see, I've never seen the bug :|
[15:44] <nik90> renato: my custom bottom panel implementation is at lp:~nik90/+junk/bottompanel
[15:45] <nik90> renato: do note that I took the shadow and the visual cue code from your code but removed the transition, states and loader since that is done by the SDK panel component already
[15:47] <nik90> renato: there is one thing that I tried fixing but haven't figured out which is the animation of the visual cue. It is supposed to slide up with a small animation and then after 3 seconds slide down a little.
[15:48] <nik90> renato: similar to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SENpeSX4dkU
[15:48] <nik90> renato: not sure if you need to do it for the dialer and contacts apps.
[16:34] <renato> nik90, I will take a look later
[17:45] <renato_> nik90, do you still around?
[17:49] <nik90> renato_: hey yeah
[17:49] <renato_> nik90, I took a look on your bottom edge implementation
[17:50] <renato_> nik90, great work there
[17:50] <nik90> renato_: thnx
[17:50] <renato_> nik90, but it only works for clock, because in the address book , we need to have the full page in the bottom edge
[17:50] <renato_> we need to swipe a new full page
[17:51] <nik90> renato_: similar to https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1JvDyhsW17d1-Mz8OY1YMBKwfRI2z9qgyRjbujEsxEMk/edit#slide=id.g34303b1ce_2_0
[17:51] <renato_> let me see if I can find a example
[17:53] <renato_> nik90, something like that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFwQ98lRDw0#t=12
[17:53] <renato_> as you can see the full page is swiped and the user can swipe back in the midle
[17:54] <renato_> because of that we can not push the page only in the end
[17:55] <nik90> renato_: ah yes
[17:59] <nik90> renato_: you would be implementation the visual cue animation as well in your code. Could you let me know when you do that? I am referring to the animation of the visual cue that you see at the very beginning of the video where it swoops in from the bottom.
[18:00] <nik90> renato_: I tried doing that using states and transition, but somehow it doesn't animate it
[18:01] <renato_> nik90, sure
[18:01] <nik90> renato_: thnx
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