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| Laney | hey hey HEY! | 08:06 |
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| mvo | hey Laney! | 08:07 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 08:11 |
| seb128 | happy friday! | 08:11 |
| mvo | hey seb128! | 08:11 |
| seb128 | hey mvo, wie gehts? | 08:11 |
| mvo | seb128: I'm in really good mood, I got a slackline and installed it in the garden yesterday | 08:12 |
| Laney | hey mvo et seb128 | 08:12 |
| seb128 | hey Laney, how are you? | 08:12 |
| seb128 | mvo, lol, I first read that as "I got slackware and installed it" | 08:12 |
| mvo | seb128: and you? how is the real world? | 08:12 |
| mvo | seb128: LOL | 08:13 |
| Laney | not bad! | 08:13 |
| Laney | apparently the "hottest day of the year" today | 08:13 |
| seb128 | good! we have blue sky & not crazy hot weather | 08:13 |
| mvo | seb128: yeah, 'cause I hate systemd and its the last hideout ;) | 08:13 |
| mvo | (kidding, I don't care much about the init system really) | 08:13 |
| Laney | how dare you | 08:13 |
| mvo | Laney: really? we had that last week, it was really hot | 08:13 |
| Laney | give back your Debian license right now | 08:13 |
| seb128 | Laney, how hot is that? | 08:14 |
| mvo | Laney: *weeeeeh* you mean as a DD I *must* *always* *have* *strong* *opinions* ? | 08:14 |
| seb128 | we had 36°C on monday | 08:14 |
| Laney | ☑ posted on 10 init threads in the past year | 08:14 |
| Laney | yeah don't laugh at us :P | 08:14 |
| Laney | I think the previous hottest was 26 | 08:14 |
| ogra_ | now it is 26.5 ? | 08:15 |
| Laney | could be! | 08:15 |
| ogra_ | :) | 08:15 |
| * seb128 refrains a lol | 08:16 | |
| Laney | I'm quite happy if that is the maximum we get all year ;-) | 08:17 |
| seb128 | yeah, over 30°C starts being annoying | 08:17 |
| mvo | seb128++ | 08:18 |
| Laney | seb129? | 08:18 |
| darkxst | try 43-45°C, thats about our usual max over summer, luckily its winter now and we have nice mild 10°C days! | 08:25 |
| seb128 | with over 40°C I guess everybody stick to "find some place with AC and stay in there"? | 08:26 |
| darkxst | well I do! not sure what the people without AC do, go shopping perhaps! | 08:26 |
| seb128 | shrug | 09:43 |
| * seb128 shakes fist at xnox and ubiquity | 09:43 | |
| xnox | seb128: cepasa? 3.12? | 09:46 |
| seb128 | the "replace Ubuntu install" partitionner option destroyed the win8 and recovery partitions on that machine | 09:46 |
| xnox | seb128: or just general cd brokenes | 09:46 |
| xnox | seb128: i've filed several requests to get windows8 from MSDN to fix that. | 09:46 |
| seb128 | xnox, no, I just nuked the win8 from my cousin trying to install the LTS | 09:46 |
| seb128 | shrug | 09:46 |
| seb128 | I hope there was no important datas on that disk :-( | 09:47 |
| xnox | seb128: excellent, did you make "windows 8 recovery usb stick first" ? | 09:47 |
| seb128 | no | 09:47 |
| xnox | seb128: cause now you don't have any way to reinstall windows 8 | 09:47 |
| xnox | \o/ | 09:47 |
| seb128 | yeah, thanks, I know | 09:47 |
| seb128 | no win8, no data | 09:47 |
| xnox | who needs that stuff anyway =) | 09:47 |
| Laney | :/ | 09:47 |
| seb128 | xnox, not funny | 09:47 |
| seb128 | we shouldn't even propose that option if it has risks to nuke disks | 09:48 |
| seb128 | xnox, I guess you don't know of any way to recover the partitions or datas? | 09:51 |
| xnox | seb128: i've used testdisk successfully before. | 09:55 |
| Laney | tjaalton: do you know anything about libinput? | 09:55 |
| xnox | seb128: you should be able to still guess partition tables & detect ntfs and recover things that ubuntu didn't blast over | 09:55 |
| seb128 | Laney, it's used by clutter and needs a MIR! | 09:55 |
| seb128 | xnox, let me try that | 09:56 |
| xnox | seb128: so eveyrthing sans first 10GB should be recovarable. | 09:56 |
| Laney | seb128: xactly | 09:56 |
| xnox | seb128: ideally boot into livecd and install testdisk into live to operate on the drive, et.al. | 09:56 |
| seb128 | xnox, trying that, thanks | 09:56 |
| tjaalton | Laney: did RAOF package that already, or am i thinking of something else.. | 10:00 |
| Laney | tjaalton: It's packaged | 10:01 |
| Laney | clutter wants to pull it into main | 10:01 |
| tjaalton | ah | 10:02 |
| tjaalton | i think Mir will use it eventually | 10:02 |
| Laney | that's interesting | 10:03 |
| tjaalton | so MIRing it now would make sense in the long run | 10:03 |
| Laney | as it's part of the wayland project | 10:03 |
| Laney | but cool | 10:03 |
| Laney | who would be good to do the MIR? :-) | 10:03 |
| tjaalton | hehe | 10:04 |
| tjaalton | mlankhorst is off today, as am i | 10:04 |
| tjaalton | so if you need it now maybe someone else :) | 10:05 |
| Laney | doesn't have to be now | 10:05 |
| Laney | I was just browsing excuses and saw this | 10:05 |
| tjaalton | i can file the paperwork on monday | 10:06 |
| Laney | that would be great | 10:06 |
| Laney | thanks! | 10:06 |
| Laney | now go enjoy your day off :P | 10:06 |
| tjaalton | already by the pool with a cold pint of Mythos ;) | 10:09 |
| tjaalton | but yeah, next week | 10:10 |
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| seb128 | Sweet5hark, hey | 11:54 |
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| Sweet5hark | seb128: hm? | 12:02 |
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| seb128 | bregma, hey, just as a fyi, I kicked a rebuild for unity8-desktop-session changes in silo 008, since the platform-api landed (so the changes got applied on the new trunk/can be tested) | 12:37 |
| bregma | saw that, thanks | 12:37 |
| bregma | it'll likely land today | 12:37 |
| seb128 | great | 12:38 |
| seb128 | I'm going to test it in a bit | 12:38 |
| desrt | moin | 13:04 |
| seb128 | xnox, help! ;-) | 13:39 |
| seb128 | xnox, so I gave up on getting back win8 on that box and installed trusty | 13:39 |
| seb128 | but after install/reboot I'm greeted with a "Operating System Not Found" and not with grub | 13:40 |
| seb128 | do you know what the issue could be? | 13:40 |
| ogra_ | did you check the UEFI boot order etc ? | 13:40 |
| ogra_ | (in the BIOS) | 13:40 |
| seb128 | ogra_, where there is only one OS shouldn't that be the one booted? | 13:41 |
| seb128 | ok, changed the boot mode from UEFI to legacy and it boots Ubuntu... | 13:42 |
| ogra_ | probably ... i just know that i have to fiddle with that when susie accidentially booted into windows on her laptop ... it switches to the builtin windows boot manager in UEFI at times | 13:42 |
| seb128 | ogra_, well, the issue is that ubiquity nucked all the windows partitions, including boot and recovery | 13:42 |
| seb128 | (when picking "reinstall over the existing Ubuntu installation") | 13:42 |
| ogra_ | ah, nice :P | 13:43 |
| seb128 | "nice" | 13:43 |
| seb128 | indeed | 13:43 |
| xnox | seb128: bah. that's quite bad. | 13:51 |
| xnox | seb128: i'd reinstall again. | 13:51 |
| seb128 | xnox, well, it's booting when the bios is in "legacy mode" | 13:51 |
| xnox | seb128: it means that bios preffered legacy boot over UEFI boot. And since our media is dual, it did boot in BIOS mode for installation. | 13:51 |
| xnox | when you were originally booting external media | 13:51 |
| xnox | it's nicer / faster & better graphics to boot in UEFI mode all the time. | 13:52 |
| seb128 | there is no way to reinstall grub in uefi mode from the installed system? | 13:52 |
| xnox | there is | 13:52 |
| xnox | do you still have UEFI partition though left? | 13:52 |
| seb128 | how do I know? I doubt it | 13:52 |
| xnox | seb128: open disks | 13:52 |
| xnox | seb128: and check if it has one at the begging | 13:53 |
| seb128 | there is a 274M and a 1.5G unknown type ones | 13:53 |
| xnox | "Partition Type" EFI System as the first one in the begging | 13:53 |
| seb128 | well type "basic data" | 13:53 |
| seb128 | no | 13:53 |
| xnox | 1.5G unknown type could be intel rapid start volume | 13:54 |
| xnox | 274M is that FAT partition? | 13:54 |
| xnox | can you mount it & check what it has? | 13:54 |
| xnox | overwise i would reboot into bios, make sure it preffers UEFI only for all boot types & reinstall. | 13:54 |
| seb128 | no, it fact that "non allocated space" | 13:54 |
| xnox | or just stick with legacy boot | 13:55 |
| xnox | =) | 13:55 |
| xnox | seb128: it's not like, grub1 was ever removed from the archive and main =)))) | 13:55 |
| xnox | seb128: and i did fix bugs with using grub1 on trusty =)))))))) lolz | 13:55 |
| seb128 | xnox, shrug | 13:55 |
| seb128 | the bios was in UEFI mode when I booted the USB stick, I'm unsure how doing another install is going to be different | 13:56 |
| xnox | that's very weird then | 13:56 |
| xnox | you should have ended up with an UEFI install | 13:56 |
| seb128 | well, I didn't install over the disk but picked a / partition | 13:56 |
| seb128 | so maybe that's an issue? | 13:57 |
| seb128 | xnox, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Creating_an_EFI_partition states I need to create an EFI partition if I want to be able to use UEFI boot | 14:02 |
| seb128 | ubiquity is not doing that for me in manual partitioning mode | 14:02 |
| xnox | seb128: we reuse/hide that fact typically. | 14:02 |
| xnox | seb128: EFI system partition is nothing more than a FAT32 partition with a type id changed to "EFI" | 14:02 |
| xnox | (or was it fat16?!) | 14:03 |
| seb128 | xnox, well, typically seems like if you don't do manually partitioning ... let me install over the disk | 14:06 |
| Saviq | seb128, bregma, hey, silo 008 is built with session logout, will you do the desktop testing (I can do a phone ACK)? | 14:07 |
| xnox | seb128: so, you originally booted with (a) uefi mode (b) went into manual partitioning (c) picked existing ubuntu partition (?!) for a reinstall and that resulted in grub-pc, instead of grub-efi? | 14:07 |
| bregma | Saviq, absolutely | 14:07 |
| xnox | Saviq: bregma: \o/ | 14:08 |
| seb128 | Saviq, I'm about to test on desktop yes, though we can't test the logout part until unity8 and indicator-session changes land, right? | 14:08 |
| Saviq | seb128, they're in the same silo, why wouldn't you be able to test? | 14:08 |
| seb128 | xnox, sort of, (c) selected manual mode, created a new partition, used that to install / | 14:08 |
| xnox | seb128: you didn't trust auto-resize, right? (or it wasn't offered)? | 14:09 |
| seb128 | Saviq, ignore me, I didn't realize that silo had been reconfigured since this morning | 14:09 |
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| seb128 | xnox, it wasn't offered | 14:09 |
| Saviq | seb128, ok, I'll do that ;) | 14:09 |
| xnox | seb128: tah. | 14:09 |
| seb128 | desrt, hey, sorry I just remembered that forgot to reply to your greeting earlier ;-) | 14:16 |
| desrt | seb128: no worries :) | 14:17 |
| desrt | DRO is over :p | 14:17 |
| seb128 | oh, right | 14:17 |
| seb128 | happy to be "free" again? ;-) | 14:17 |
| desrt | yup | 14:17 |
| desrt | results weren't bad either | 14:17 |
| desrt | my particular ballot box was overwhelmingly NDP -- > 50% | 14:17 |
| desrt | and NDP won that district.... but liberals won overall | 14:18 |
| seb128 | cool | 14:19 |
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| seb128 | charles, tedg, Saviq, bregma: sorry I though we were here earlier, and I got sidetracked by people asking things | 14:59 |
| seb128 | the dbus-monitor log has "No such object path '/org/gnome/SessionManager/EndSessionDialog'" | 15:00 |
| bregma | ** (process:2497): WARNING **: /build/buildd/indicator-session-12.10.5+14.10.20140613/src/backend-dbus/actions.c:638 on_open_end_session_dialog_ready: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownObject: No such object path '/org/gnome/SessionManager/EndSessionDialog' | 15:00 |
| seb128 | no RequestLogout | 15:00 |
| charles | hm, ok | 15:00 |
| charles | sounds like a problem on the i-session side then | 15:02 |
| Laney | bug #1329792 seems real | 15:03 |
| charles | seb128, just to make sure, this is with the lp-1296814-logout-using-unity-session branch right? | 15:03 |
| ubot5 | bug 1329792 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "GtkVolumeButton do not let me to change volume" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1329792 | 15:03 |
| seb128 | charles, it's with https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/landing-008 | 15:04 |
| seb128 | charles, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/177551784/indicator-session_12.10.5%2B14.04.20140410-0ubuntu1_12.10.5%2B14.10.20140613-0ubuntu1.diff.gz | 15:04 |
| seb128 | is the codediff for indicator-session | 15:04 |
| charles | k | 15:04 |
| seb128 | Laney, indeed | 15:05 |
| seb128 | Laney, going to make larsu happy :/ | 15:07 |
| * larsu reads scrollback to become happy | 15:07 | |
| charles | seb128, I'm going to be afk in a little bit taking my wife to work, after that I'll see if I can get a unity8 env running on my system and try 008 on my own and track down the problem | 15:07 |
| seb128 | larsu, <irony> sorry | 15:07 |
| ogra_ | to late ! | 15:08 |
| ogra_ | TGIF :) | 15:08 |
| charles | seb128, downside is, eta ~90 min before I start on that | 15:08 |
| larsu | seb128: what are we talking about? The volume button bug? | 15:08 |
| seb128 | charles, ok, let me know if I can help providing debug infos | 15:08 |
| seb128 | larsu, yes | 15:08 |
| seb128 | charles, well, no worry, that can wait for monday to land | 15:08 |
| seb128 | though I'm a bit annoyed that we grouper the iso autologin fix with unrelated changes | 15:09 |
| larsu | seb128: any idea what could be wrong there? | 15:09 |
| seb128 | because it means we are blocking the iso fix | 15:09 |
| seb128 | bregma, Saviq: ^ just as a fyi | 15:09 |
| seb128 | larsu, no :-( I see a + displayed a bit downer on the UI, I wonder if that's a stacking or rendering issue | 15:10 |
| larsu | interesting. I'll put it on my TODO | 15:10 |
| Saviq | seb128, hmm, sorry, we did discuss it this morning, only probably we expected this to be working and landable... | 15:10 |
| * larsu has to finish reviewing desrt's parser patch today | 15:10 | |
| Saviq | seb128, if you want, drop unity8 and i-session again from there and land u8-d-session alone | 15:11 |
| seb128 | Saviq, yeah, we should have taken Laney's login fix alone and then grouped everything else | 15:11 |
| seb128 | mterry, thanks for the MIR approval btw ;-) | 15:14 |
| mterry | seb128, I only wish they were all so easy :) | 15:15 |
| seb128 | hehe | 15:15 |
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| bregma | the logout fix getting added to the unity8-desktop-session silo took me by surprise too | 15:20 |
| seb128 | bregma, I'm going to move Laney's fix to its own silo, land that and reconfigure the logout one without that mp, if that works for you? | 15:21 |
| bregma | wfm | 15:21 |
| seb128 | thanks | 15:22 |
| seb128 | Saviq, bregma, charles, Laney: k, I landed the unity8-desktop-session autologin fix and I'm rebuilding silo 008 on top of that landing now (only including the session changes) | 16:13 |
| Laney | cool, thanks | 16:14 |
| Laney | what does on top of mean? | 16:14 |
| seb128 | I waited for the fix to be in trunk before kicking the rebuild | 16:14 |
| seb128 | so it means the silo includes the fix | 16:14 |
| Laney | oh there's another change to that package, I see | 16:15 |
| seb128 | right | 16:15 |
| seb128 | ok, calling it a week, time for some tennis and w.e! | 16:39 |
| seb128 | have a good w.e everyone | 16:39 |
| seb128 | see you next week | 16:40 |
| Laney | bye seb128 ! | 16:41 |
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