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frecelhello00:08
frecelUbuntu SDK tells me that the emulator package is missing when I connect my phone, how do I fix that?00:09
pmcgowanfrecel, that sounds wrong, try installing the  ubuntu-emulator package00:23
frecelpmcgowan: that fixed it, thanks00:25
pmcgowanfrecel, good but I will file a bug00:25
frecelthis should be updated to include some info about the emulator package00:26
frecelhttp://developer.ubuntu.com/start/ubuntu-sdk/installing-the-sdk/00:26
pmcgowanfrecel, indeed00:26
pmcgowanfrecel, do you have the latest qtc plugin from the PPA00:27
frecelpmcgowan: I updated everything yesterday00:30
frecelpmcgowan: correction, I updated everything this morning00:31
pmcgowanfrecel, on trusty from the sdk ppa then?00:31
pmcgowanok00:31
mattwj2002hey guys and ladies00:31
mattwj2002how complete is ubuntu touch?  last year it was far from complete?00:31
frecelmattwj2002: depends by what do you mean by complete00:32
mattwj2002good point00:32
frecelmattwj2002: the OS itself is stable and functionality is there, the app ecosystem needs more time to grow there00:33
mattwj2002well let me ask it this way.....how much has changed in a year00:33
mattwj2002okay that works00:33
mattwj2002I have a nexus 7 I am going to install it on :)00:33
sarnoldnew nexus 7 or old nexus 7?00:33
frecelmattwj2002: is it a 2013 model?00:33
mattwj20022012 old one00:33
frecelit's not officially supported then00:34
mattwj2002really?00:34
mattwj2002what about galaxy nexus?00:34
frecelthe support for galaxy nexus was dropped a few months ago00:34
mattwj2002:(00:35
mattwj2002what the heck00:35
frecelI feel you bro :D I have the original nexus 7 too00:35
frecelI bought a nexus 4 just so I can play with Ubuntu on it00:36
pmcgowanmattwj2002, galaxy nexus could not be brought up to android 4.4 drivers, and old Nexus 7 graphics were busted (tegra)00:36
pmcgowanregrettable00:36
mattwj2002indeed00:36
mattwj2002is there unoffical image for nexus 7 2012?00:36
mattwj2002*an00:37
freceland then my Samsung Galaxy S2 decided to not read my sim card anymore so my Ubuntu powered nexus 4 is my daily driver now00:37
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pmcgowanmattwj2002, no, and the last published image is quite a while ago00:37
mattwj2002do you guys have a list of supported devices?00:38
pmcgowanrsalveti, the log I have for that bug is 25 MB but I dont think has more info than I put in the bug00:38
frecelmattwj2002: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices00:38
frecelit's a pretty short list though00:39
mattwj2002I have quite a few android devices00:39
mattwj2002:P00:39
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frecelnvm, community ports have been added there since I last read that page and there is quite a few of them00:40
frecelinteresting00:40
mattwj2002how good is the emulator?00:41
sarnoldx86 emulator is decent enough but you'll probably find yourself reaching for the keyboard to try to type in text.. and that won't go. heh.00:42
mattwj2002what does this mean?00:42
mattwj2002Working ports, but w/o system-image server00:42
frecelpmcgowan: I can't seem to be able to take screenshots00:44
pmcgowanfrecel, I believe thats due to the soon to be reverted split greeter00:44
pmcgowanmattwj2002, that means there are no ota updates available00:45
mattwj2002oh okay00:45
frecelpmcgowan: since we are on the topic of screenshots, do you know if there is a way to somehow attach an event listener to the volume rocker?00:48
frecelI want to take screenshots without having to connect the phone to a computer00:48
frecelthis is how I do it now http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~frecel/+junk/screenshot/view/head:/screenshot.sh00:48
pmcgowandid you look at how phablet-screenshot does it? and no I dont know how to listen to volume rocker00:50
frecelphablet-screenshot uses adb to execute some bash on the phone00:53
frecelpmcgowan: the funny thing is that no one seems to know, and it should be in the api00:54
frecelI just realized that cordova has a listener for that, I should check if it works on ubuntu00:55
frecelnvm, that probably won't help since I can't execute a shell script from a html5 app00:57
pmcgowanfrecel, I don't think its exposed, so I understand how would the system decide where to route the event from that button00:57
mattwj2002I wonder how much a nexus 4 goes for now00:59
* mattwj2002 looks on swappa00:59
frecelI bought mine for $200 in november00:59
frecelpmcgowan: I guess I will just wait until there is a proper way of taking screenshots on the phone, in the mean time my script works01:02
frecelat list it did before the whole split-greeter kerfuffle01:02
frecelleast*01:02
pmcgowanfrecel, yeah, that will land tomorrow I think, should be back01:02
mattwj2002frecel that price is still about right01:02
pmcgowanbe nice to have an app like on desktop that waits 5 secs then takes the shot01:03
frecelpmcgowan: it is relatively easy to do, the hard part is triggering it, right now what I use is the volume level, so if the volume is set to 0 then a screenshot is taken and you can got to Gallery and see it there01:06
frecelthis is the best way of taking screenshots without having to connect your phone to a computer I came up with01:08
frecelI made it so I can easily document ui bugs and I have not found a single new ui bug since I made it01:09
pmcgowanfrecel, hah typical01:09
pmcgowanfrecel, would be a nice general feature01:09
mattwj2002hi guys01:13
mattwj2002my computer locked up :(01:13
frecelpmcgowan: my guess is that as soon as the whole greeter and dbus thing is over there will be a proper solution for this01:16
frecelI gotta go buy some food01:16
frecelprobably be back in 30 mins01:16
mattwj2002hopefully I will have my emulator running by then01:16
mattwj2002:P01:16
frecelI am back01:50
mattwj2002frecel: I need your help please good sir01:50
kurrosso what are we eating?01:51
mattwj2002how do you install ubuntu touch os on galaxy nexus01:52
mattwj2002I don't care if it is a bit out of date software wise01:53
frecelkurros: pizza, I don't know what kind yet, my brother is getting it01:54
kurrosyay01:54
frecelmattwj2002: I think a bit means 6 months in this case01:55
sarnoldman, a lot has changed in even three months. it feels so much smoother now than it used to..01:55
frecela lot has changed since and I wouldn't be suprised if most of the new apps wouldn't even work since the framework changed01:55
frecelsarnold: I agree, I used ubuntu touch as a daily driver for a few weeks in dec/jan and I am doing it again now, completely different experience01:56
mattwj2002hmmm01:57
frecelmattwj2002: but if for some strange reason you still want to do it I would check the old revisions of the installation guide on ubuntu wiki01:59
mattwj2002frecel I think I have it figured out:)02:00
mattwj2002this is back in November02:00
mattwj2002:-s02:00
dobeyyou can ubuntu-device-flash --channel stable --device maguro and it might work02:01
dobeybut you'll get an extremely old image02:01
mattwj2002thanks dobey02:02
frecelmattwj2002: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install?action=recall&rev=10802:02
frecelmattwj2002: this is the latest revision for the tutorial where maguro is still in maitenance instead of depricated02:03
mattwj2002frecel02:07
mattwj2002how would I install it this way?02:07
mattwj2002http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/saucy/daily-preinstalled/pending/02:07
frecelmattwj2002: why do you want to do this rather than the regular way?02:14
mattwj2002frecel I guess I don't know how to do it the normal way02:14
mattwj2002:(02:14
mattwj2002I am a newbie at this02:14
dobey21:59 < dobey> you can ubuntu-device-flash --channel stable --device maguro and  it might work02:14
mattwj2002not android but ubuntu touch os02:15
dobeythat's the "normal way"02:15
mattwj2002do I need a sudo?02:15
dobeywell, after you've unlocked and rebooted to android02:15
dobeyno02:15
dobeyyou need unlocked phone with dev mode enabled02:15
dobeyit will replace all of android though02:16
mattwj2002matt@nodeskip:~/Desktop$ ubuntu-device-flash --channel stable --device maguro2014/06/12 21:17:05 Device is |maguro|02:17
mattwj20022014/06/12 21:17:06 Flashing version 10 from stable channel and server https://system-image.ubuntu.com to device maguro02:17
mattwj20022014/06/12 21:17:06 ubuntu-touch/stable is a channel alias to stable02:17
mattwj20022014/06/12 21:17:06 Cannot cleanup tree to ensure clean deploymentexit status 25502:17
mattwj2002matt@nodeskip:~/Desktop$02:17
mattwj2002help?02:17
mattwj2002sorry I should have used pastebin :(02:18
dobeyyes you should02:18
mattwj2002I will do that in the future02:18
mattwj2002sorry!02:18
frecelmattwj2002: is your phone unlocked?02:23
mattwj2002it should be02:24
mattwj2002I have been running cm11 for ages now02:24
mattwj2002I can't believe you guys dropped support for the galaxy nexus :(02:32
frecelmattwj2002: blame popey02:34
* mattwj2002 smacks popey02:35
freceldobey: are you one of the guys working on document viewer?02:37
dobeyno02:40
mattwj2002if your device reboots how long does it take to load Ubuntu Touch OS the first time?02:47
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frecelmattwj2002: its just like a normal reboot02:48
mattwj2002I get a black screen02:49
mattwj2002after the google with a unlocked screen02:49
mattwj2002oh it loaded02:49
mattwj2002:D02:49
mattwj2002I guess it is pretty pointless if I can't run the latest software :(02:52
mattwj2002back to cm1102:52
frecelmattwj2002: if you really want to try ubuntu touch right now get a nexus 403:00
mattwj2002ok np03:01
mattwj2002:)03:01
mattwj2002what about a n5?03:01
mattwj2002would that also work?03:01
frecelmattwj2002: n5 will work but that is a community port, not oficially supported03:01
mattwj2002will it be an offical port eventually?03:02
frecelor just wait for the bq aquaris to come out with ubuntu, it will probably go for about $20003:02
frecelmattwj2002: idk, but probably not03:02
sarnoldseems unlikely, between bq and meizu coming out with real hardware soon, I don't think the n5 will be targeted03:02
mattwj2002real hardware?03:03
frecelyup03:03
frecelmiezu will probably go for something between $300 and $35003:03
dobeyn5 is a waste of money :(03:04
freceldobey: why? I'm thinking about getting one03:04
dobeybecause of the lack of ubuntu support03:05
frecelmattwj2002: if you want to try something cool on your galaxy nexus I think there is Firefox OS build for it03:08
dobeyor webos03:08
frecelthe cool thing about firefox os is that the development is very rapid03:09
frecelthe uncool thing is that they don't have oti updates and phone manufacturers are not keeping up03:09
mattwj2002frecel do you have a link to FoxOS03:09
frecelhttps://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox_OS/Firefox_OS_build_prerequisites03:10
frecelmattwj2002: ^^03:10
mattwj2002Samsung Galaxy Nexus     We are not currently aware of any variations that are not compatible.03:11
mattwj2002oh03:11
mattwj2002nevermind :)03:11
frecelit is tier 3 though, so the bugfixes might be delayed by a bit03:12
mattwj2002is there a room for this?03:13
frecelmattwj2002: I think it's #fxos on irc.mozilla.org03:15
freceldobey: can you do something for me?03:17
freceldobey: can you put your phone to your ear as if you are about to talk to someone and tell me if you hear anything?03:17
dobeywhich phone?03:19
dobeyand anyway, it's late here, so i have to go03:19
freceldobey: nexus 403:20
freceldobey: but if you have a different phone running Ubuntu thats fine too03:20
freceleven better actually03:20
dobeymy nexus 4 doesn't have a sim, and is running ubuntu, no i don't hear anything03:21
dobeymy nexus 5 isn't running ubuntu any more, and doesn't have my sim in it any more either03:21
dobeybut i didn't hear any weird sound out of it either03:21
frecelthe sim doesn't matter, as long as the phone is on it's good03:22
frecelhmm.. I get a crackling sound coming out of the speaker all the time, it's very quiet so you only hear it if you put the phone right to your ear03:22
dobeynope not here03:25
dobeyanyway, must go03:25
freceldobey: ok, thanks and good night03:26
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dholbachgood morning07:11
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mardySaviq: hi! I read in some document that you'll be working on a "Passphrase to secure device" in System Settings; do you have a minute to talk about that?07:46
Saviqmardy, we'll have to reevaluate that now that we had to back off the split greeter07:48
Saviqmardy, mterry knows more, so we should wait for him07:48
mardySaviq: OK. So the split greeter won't come back?07:49
Saviqmardy, it will, but probably not in time for RTM07:49
mardySaviq: I see :-/07:49
Saviqand/or we might need a different plan for low-mem devices07:49
Saviqas the second session will always waste *some* memory07:50
Saviqdue to all the duplicated services07:50
Saviqso we might need to support both modes07:50
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Friday, and happy Sewing Machine Day! :-D08:04
JamesTaitIn the clock app, is there a way to disable an alarm without deleting it?08:05
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JamesTaite.g. I have an alarm for the school run, which I want to turn off during the school holidays and sprints. :)08:06
SmartHi all. can someone plz help me with latest source code link for libhybris in ubuntu-touch08:06
Laneydoes /usr/share/ofono/scrips/scan-for-operators work?09:06
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lotuspsychjenice new loading screens on version 73 :p10:12
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AskUbuntuUbuntu Touch Trojita | http://askubuntu.com/q/48273711:01
piiramarLaney: works for me, on mako with image 79. note that it can take a long time (several minutes).11:05
LaneyI was getting an error immediately11:05
LaneyNetworkRegistration interface not found11:05
LaneyI thought I had phonesim installed or something but apparently not11:06
LaneyI can't get on the cell network which is why I was trying this in the first place11:06
piiramarLaney: ok ... I might have seen that intermittently, but don't know why11:06
ogra_Laney, bug 1321627 ?11:06
ubot5bug 1321627 in urfkill (Ubuntu) "Wrong WWAN value in saved-states" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132162711:06
Laneyogra_: is that soft=true under [WWAN]?11:08
ogra_yeah11:08
Laneybecause I do have that11:08
ogra_right, so you have GSM blocked11:08
LaneyI see11:08
Laneynice bug!11:08
asac3g data isnt working for me anymore in latet devel image :/11:22
asacknown?11:22
popeywfm11:23
ogra_asac, but yu have a GSM connection ?11:25
ogra_or is it completely off11:25
asacogra_: no data at all11:26
ogra_but you can make/recieve calls ?11:26
asacat least the indicator shows just cellular11:26
asacyeah call cellular is on11:26
asacjust no data11:26
asacalso tried to reboot11:26
asacdidnt help11:26
asaccyphermox: data doesnt work for me anymore on devel build11:48
asacwhat info do you need?11:48
asaccellular connection is there for phone calls11:49
asacjust no data11:49
ogra_check the urfkill settings (see the bug above)11:51
asacok11:51
asacogra_: where can i try turning off flight mode?11:52
ogra_the bug should have the info11:53
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asacwwan=false11:54
asacso guess its not the problem11:54
asacin cat /var/lib/urfkill/saved-states11:54
asacits true for WLAN11:55
asacbecause i disabled it to check if 3g works11:55
asaci will rename that file11:56
asacand reboot11:56
asaclets see11:56
asacdidnt help12:01
asacno 3g12:01
asacwlan turned off explicitely to test this12:01
asaclet me turn it on and check if its up then12:01
asacwow12:01
asacso turning wlan off, turns off wwnan :)12:01
asaci turned it on ... and before it associated i saw a 2g12:01
asacicon12:01
asacand now the interface has an ip12:02
asacwow12:02
ogra_asac, that sounds more like an indicator issue12:04
asaclets see12:04
asacseems so... after i had data, turning off wifi leavces the modem up12:04
asacrebooting now12:04
asacbug 132975212:06
ubot5bug 1329752 in urfkill (Ubuntu) "turn off wifi, reboot, wwan modem stays off too" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132975212:06
asaccyphermox: tedg: charles: ^^12:07
asacogra said might be indicator hence pinging you12:07
ogra_your WWAN isnt blocked in that12:07
ogra_asac, indicator-network is Wellark12:07
charlesWellark, Satoris: ^12:08
asacthx charles12:08
charleshm, Satoris isn't idling in here, I'll ping him manually12:08
charleson the canonical irc he's on and wellark is marked as away12:09
asack. if he works on the phone he should be here12:09
charles*nod*12:09
asacmaybe tell him that too :)12:09
ogra_asac, attach syslog too to the bug ... should show the NM states etc12:10
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asacdone12:17
Wellarkasac: indicator-network is not touching the WWAN killswitch12:18
WellarkI would say it's urfkill12:18
asackk12:19
Wellarkwe already have couple of bugs about wrong WWAN state12:19
Wellarkon urfkill12:19
asacWellark: the wwan state is correct12:19
asacjust the modem isnt coming up12:19
asaccould be that we interpret wlan state as wwan state too :)12:19
asacwhere is that urfkill code?12:19
Wellarkwell, WWAN == modem in our urfkill right now12:20
* asac goes for the package12:20
asacWellark: right, but wwan -> soft=false -> modem doesnt come up on boot ...12:20
asacthats if wlan soft=true12:20
Wellarkok. you need cyphermox for this12:21
asackk12:21
asacalready pinged him above12:21
Wellarkok.12:21
asaccyphermox: grepping through urfkill its odd that there are places where there is WLAN, but not WWAN in the switch/case codes12:25
asaccyphermox: i guess thats (one of) the reason for the weird WWAN state bugs12:26
asaccyphermox: see http://paste.ubuntu.com/7638647/12:26
asactests/killswitch-write.c:wlan = urf_killswitch_new (URF_ENUM_TYPE_WLAN);12:27
asacsrc/urf-arbitrator.c:type = RFKILL_TYPE_WLAN;12:27
asacsrc/urf-input.c:case KEY_WLAN:12:27
asacsrc/urf-daemon.c:case KEY_WLAN:12:28
asacsrc/urf-daemon.c:type = RFKILL_TYPE_WLAN;12:28
asacthose are the ones that only exist on WLAN not WWAN12:28
Wellarkasac: one reason for that might be that WWAN on n4 is not an actual HW kill switch12:28
asaccould be :)12:28
asacjust pointing out12:28
Wellarksure.12:28
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asaccyphermox: oha12:32
asaci see in arbitrator that we use the WLAN setting as our general state?12:32
asac       if (type == RFKILL_TYPE_ALL)12:32
asac                type = RFKILL_TYPE_WLAN;12:32
asacguess thats cause of my bug?12:33
asace.g. if you ask for state of all, you return the state of WLAN? so if i turn off wlan it tells whoever is asking that efverything is off?12:33
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mardyqtcreator doesn't start on my machine because I'm missing /etc/ubuntu-platform-api/application.conf12:56
mardycan please someone tell me which package should install that file?12:56
brendandis there any easy way to cross-reference which revision of which branch a click package is based on?12:57
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AgontukIs there any flashable zip for ubuntu system image ?13:05
ogra_nope13:05
mardydbarth: do you have the file /etc/ubuntu-platform-api/application.conf ?13:06
Agontukhello ogra. so users have to be on ubuntu to be able to flash the images ?13:07
ogra_Sarvatt, do you have any bug open for "startup animation missing in a few cases" ?13:07
ogra_(iirc thats a unity8 feature)13:07
pmcgowanWellark, hi, following the cellular fail thread, my phone already shows "No signal" when there is none, although I dont think it does when the modem is actually off, is that correct?13:07
ogra_Agontuk, well, we base on AOSP ... google dropped zip support with 4.4 ... additionally the system-image is always a combo of rootfs and android img files, but all we could offer you would  be a zip of the rootfs alone, that would result in messed up installs13:09
Agontukogra_, personally i don't have problems with ubuntu since I'm using it. But if I decide to share it, many users don't have ubuntu, so it'll be a problem.13:11
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ogra_Agontuk, ubuntu--device-flash is written in Go and should be possible to be run on windows or OSX13:12
ogra_(not sure anyone has done that yet though ... but technically it should work)13:12
ogra_if sommeone wants to package all bits needed for flashing into fedora, SuSE or Arch we'll surely not object to patches to the code if they are needed :)13:13
AgontukFirst things first. I need to build it properly for my own use :P13:15
ogra_:)13:15
ogra_ugh, sorry Sarvatt ... just noticed i mis-pinged13:15
AgontukIf ubuntu-root is used for ramdisk, how the *.rc are used ?13:15
ogra_Saviq, do you have any bug open for "startup animation missing in a few cases" ?13:15
Saviqogra_, no13:16
ogra_Agontuk, ubuntu-root ?13:16
Agontukubuntu-root folder in out directory13:16
ogra_Saviq, if i tap a link in a webapp that opens the browser i only get a black screen ... that happens also for some apps that i locked to the launcher when i start them from there13:17
ogra_Agontuk, what porting guide are you using ...13:17
ogra_thats definitely outdated13:17
Saviqogra_, yeah, please file13:17
ogra_will do13:17
Saviqalthough that will get fixed with qtcomp I believe13:18
Agontukhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting13:18
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robotfuelev ping, I have some whoopsie bugs and pitti said you were the person that can triage it for me. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/whoopsie/+bug/132952013:19
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1329520 in whoopsie (Ubuntu) "whoopsie crashes while processing crash file" [Undecided,New]13:19
pittirobotfuel: that's not whoopsie, that's actually apport13:19
pittithat looks like a broken core dump13:19
ogra_Agontuk, the .rc files are only used by the android container ... way later in the boot13:20
robotfuelpitti: whoopsie-upload-all made me think it was whoopsie. I'll move the bug to apport, do you know who I talk to about getting the apport bug fixed?13:21
ogra_Agontuk, the system boots into an ubuntu initrd ... which is not much different from what you have on a ubuntu PC boot ... it then switches to the ubuntu rootfs and at some point later fires up an lxc container with android in it ... only in that step the android rc files are used13:21
ogra_during porting you will need to pull out some data from these files for i.e. the udev rule to creat the proper devices in ubuntu (with the right permissions)13:22
ogra_but they are not involved in booting the device itself ... only for the container that is started later on13:22
Agontukperfect explanation :)13:23
Agontukwhich file contains the partition table then ?13:24
ogra_the bootloader ... we usually dont touch the partition table at all ... we use the userdata partition to put loop mounted img files in there13:26
dbarthmardy: don't have it either13:29
mardydbarth: and does qtcreator work for you? it aborts here, because that file is missing13:30
mardyzsombi: hi! Maybe you can help defining the issue? My qtcreator aborts because /etc/ubuntu-platform-api/application.conf is missing, and I don't know where to get that file from13:31
pmcgowanmardy, ask zbenjamin13:32
mardyzbenjamin: hi :-) ^13:32
zbenjaminmardy: when does it abort?13:33
mardyzbenjamin: before showing any UI, right at start up: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7638908/13:34
Wellarkpmcgowan: let me check that.. right now the "No Signal" is a bit mysterious13:34
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pmcgowanWellark, I actually do not have signal for this carrier so its working correctly13:35
zbenjaminmardy: scary i never saw that13:35
pmcgowanWellark, seems it should do the same when modem is off13:35
zbenjaminzsombi: any idea where this error message comes from? Ubuntu Platform API: Unable to find module configuration file13:35
Wellarkpmcgowan: we will show modem off as an error, but not implemented yet13:35
pmcgowanWellark, ok13:35
Wellarkas the modem should never ever be offline during normal operation13:36
pete-woodsmardy: hi, do you have any time to help me get my accounts plugin working on the phone?13:36
zsombizbenjamin: Ubuntu Platform API, qtubuntu?13:36
mardypete-woods: yep13:36
zbenjaminzsombi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7638908/13:36
zbenjaminzsombi: thats all it says13:36
mardyzsombi: and if I strace it, I see that it's trying to opening /etc/ubuntu-platform-api/application.conf, which is not there13:37
mardyzbenjamin, zsombi: do you have that file, BTW?13:37
zbenjaminmardy: no13:37
pete-woodsmardy: basically I have a provider file which works on the desktop now (http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-api-team/unity-scope-vimeo/14.10/view/head:/data/accounts/providers/vimeo.provider)13:37
zsombizbenjamin: mardy: nope13:38
pete-woodsmardy: but it looks like I need to cook up some QML on the phone13:38
pete-woodsbut I'm not really sure where to start13:38
mardyzbenjamin: maybe I have a broken qtcreator plugin; is there a way to list them?13:38
pete-woodsI was a bit puzzled by the URIs in the google plugin13:38
mardypete-woods: you are using OAuth 2.0 or 1.0a?13:39
zbenjaminmardy: dpkg -l | qtcreator-plugin13:39
zbenjamin+ grep of course13:39
pete-woodsmardy: this is OAuth213:39
pete-woods.013:40
dbarthmardy: works for me, but on trusty13:41
mardyzbenjamin: do you have this? qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu13:41
zbenjaminmardy: yes13:41
mardypete-woods: then take the qml file from facebook as an example13:41
zbenjaminyou will need -remotelinux -cmake and -ubuntu13:42
mardypete-woods: basically, you only need to use the vimeo APIs to retrieve the username, and set it on the account13:42
mardypete-woods: but as a start, you can skip that part, and just check if the account gets created13:42
zbenjaminpete-woods: hey pete whats the state on the stuff we worked on in malta?13:43
pete-woodszbenjamin: the APIs we need are in distro now13:43
zbenjaminpete-woods: do you have some docs ready?13:43
pete-woodszbenjamin: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity-scopes-api/trunk/view/head:/include/unity/scopes/Registry.h13:47
pete-woodsis the starting point13:47
pete-woodsyou can set the scope_state_callback to get change notification about when scopes start and stop13:47
zbenjaminpete-woods: awesome :)13:48
boikodednick: hi, so I'm finally back working on the active call indicator property you need13:48
zbenjaminpete-woods: can i also trigger the scope to show up?13:49
dednickboiko: howdy. good to hear!13:49
boikodednick: but I actually have a question: what happens when the active call indicator is clicked? does it call a URL or something?13:49
pete-woodszbenjamin: hmm, we never actually made that part13:49
pete-woodsso you'd only be able to install the scope13:49
pete-woodsat the moment there's no way to force the shell to show a particular scope13:49
boikodednick: I'm asking because  when the dialer is already in focus, I need to know when the indicator was clicked to go back to the live call view13:50
dednickboiko: it switches focus to the dialer app at the moment i think13:50
mardyricmm: hi! Do you know what this error mean? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7638908/13:50
zbenjaminpete-woods: that part is required for us to make it work from qtc, i need a running process on the phone i can connect to13:50
mardyricmm: I don't have /etc/ubuntu-platform-api/application.conf, but most people here also don't, and qtcreator works for them13:50
dednickboiko: probably needs to do something a bit more clever than that though13:50
zbenjaminpete-woods: if the scope is not loaded i can not connect to gdbserver13:51
pete-woodszbenjamin: that's true :(13:51
boikodednick: maybe something like calling application:///dialer-app?view=liveCall ?13:51
boikodednick: not sure this is possible through the URI dispatcher when using the application:// URI13:52
dednickboiko: um. possibly13:52
ricmmmardy: hi, where is that error from?13:54
ricmmmardy: as in, how to reprod13:54
mardyricmm: I just type "qtcreator" from the terminal13:54
ricmmon your laptop you mean?13:55
mardyricmm: yes13:55
ricmmthats odd it shouldnt be trying to bring up the platform API on desktop13:55
ricmmright, I see it13:55
mardyricmm: I might have installed some phone packages in the past, maybe13:56
pittiseb128, ogra_: do you happen to know, do the phone's spellchecker need my/hunspell, or can they also deal with aspell?13:56
ogra_pitti, thats a question for bfiller i think, his team does the keyboard13:57
ogra_(which has the dependency on hunspell)13:57
ricmmholy shit13:57
seb128pitti, what ogra_ said13:57
pittiah, so it's not using libenchant or so13:57
ricmmmardy: you probably have qtubuntu-sensors installed13:57
pittiok, thanks13:57
bfillerpitti: it currently uses hunspell13:58
ricmmoh my the u8 desktop session uses qtubuntu-sensors :) I woner why13:58
bfillerpitti: don't beleive it can use aspell currently13:58
pittibfiller: ok, thanks; I figured for the RTM we might want Spanish spell support?13:58
mardyricmm: indeed, let me try to remove it13:58
ricmmmardy: try removing qtubuntu-sensors, that will also get rid of the u8 desktop session13:58
ricmmand it will work13:58
pittibfiller: but we don't seem to have a spanish my/hunspell dictionary, which is quite surprising13:58
ricmmI dont know where the bug lies tho... desktop session shouldnt be trying to bring up the phone sensors13:58
bfillerpitti: yes, there are quite a few langs missing hunspell packages13:59
mardyricmm: my hero! \o/13:59
tedgboiko, dednick, no you'd need a custom url format for that.13:59
pittibfiller: d'oh, I just missed myspell-es13:59
pittibfiller: myspell and hunspell are by and large the same, that should work13:59
bfillerpitti: that's great, we can take a look at pulling it in14:00
boikotedg: dednick: something like dialer://?view=liveCall ?14:00
pete-woodsmardy: aha, I have it working (I think) with the following QML:14:00
pete-woodsimport Ubuntu.OnlineAccounts.Plugin 1.014:00
pete-woodsOAuthMain {14:00
pete-woods}14:00
tedgboiko, dednick: Yup, I think you'd need three /'s but yes.14:01
tedgboiko, dednick, not sure though, would have to look at the code :-)14:01
boikotedg: I can check how it is done on address-book-app, it is used there already I think14:01
tedgboiko, Yeah, really if you can't use two it's a bug. But I'm not sure.14:02
pittibfiller, ogra_, dpm: So on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/development-1406-touch-language-packs I now have a list of spell check dicts for which we (will) ship translations; we may consider installing them all (+30 MB), or only some selected ones14:06
dpmpitti, do you think in the future these might be clickifiable?14:07
pittidpm: it requires teaching libhunspell to be able to look into click paths, or creating a hook for symlinking them into a common dir and then just looking there14:07
pittidpm: so technically anything's possible, as long as someone wants to do the work :)14:08
mterryCimi, hey, btw.  I wanted to let you know that I'm fixing the arch issues that seb128 mentioned with the wizard branch.  And I'm going to fix it to work in the new unsplit world again14:08
Cimimterry, amazing14:08
mterryCimi, just didn't want us both working on same thing or anything  :)14:08
mterryAnd I feel bad for the split/unsplit whiplash, so it made sense for me to do that  :)14:09
pittibfiller: so I figure for RTM we might just add a few of those; we'll win some 70 MB with the touch specific langpacks, so we won't eat up half of that again with the spell dicts?14:09
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dpmpitti, yeah, that's the part I'm interested in for now: "technically possible", so you think there wouldn't be any unsurmountable blocker to implement it (given enough time)? I was just worried that it might break our app isolation story or something14:10
AskUbuntuHow can I directly boot into Ubuntu touch from my PC? | http://askubuntu.com/q/48280514:16
mardypete-woods: yes :-) Now you need to get the username and set it on the account; it's not really required, but it makes the UIs look better14:19
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pete-woodsmardy: okay, I don't really understand what exactly that mean14:24
pete-woodsis that what the "completeCreation" functions are for?14:25
pete-woodsahh, okay those functions make a little more sense now14:26
mptWhere do browser evangelism bugs belong? For example, a site advertising an on Google Play, or pointing at a non-existent “Add to Home Screen” button14:26
mpt*advertising an Android app on Google Play14:27
mptJust put them in <https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webbrowser-app> for now?14:29
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pmcgowanmpt, yes unless its in a specific webapp14:31
mptok14:32
mptRelated: How do I clear my cookies for bug reproduction purposes? :-)14:32
pete-woodsmardy: is there some information available on the reply object you get?14:40
pete-woodsmardy: is it just the AuthToken you get? or do you get the full reply14:41
pete-woodsjust that the API claims to reponsd with user information inline14:42
mardypete-woods: try to log it with JSON.stringify(reply), but I suspect that you won't find much there14:42
pete-woodsmardy: where does the log go on the phone?14:44
mardypete-woods: ah, use export UOA_LOGGING_LEVEL=214:45
mardyexport OAU_DAEMON_TIMEOUT=900014:45
mardykillall online-accounts-ui14:45
mardyonline-accounts-ui --desktop_file_hint=/usr/share/applications/online-accounts-ui.desktop14:45
mardypete-woods: ^ and you'll see the logs in the terminal14:46
pete-woodsmardy: I just seem to get the spinning blobs forever14:48
mardypete-woods: ignore them, switch to the System Settings and open OA from there14:49
pete-woodsahh!14:49
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pete-woodsmardy: yeah, you were right, the original response is discarded at that point14:52
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mardypete-woods: you can file a bug on signon-plugin-oauth2, but anyway for the time being it's better if you just re-get it14:53
pete-woodsmardy: yeah, that's no problem, just thought I might be able to take a shortcut14:53
pete-woodsmardy: thanks for you help, I have it all working now :)15:04
mardypete-woods: wow, that was quick!!15:04
pete-woodsmardy: well an http request is easy to make when you know what it's supposed to be doing15:05
pete-woodsmy main problem was not really knowing what the calls were for :)15:05
mardypete-woods: glad to have been of help :-)15:05
pete-woods:)15:05
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brendanddoes anyone know how the application start animation is made to finish? is it some signal sent by the app, or a property of the apps state?15:22
mptkenvandine, hi, did you have any questions about <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PhoneApp>? I think you asked about the visuals on the SIM service screen, right?15:32
kenvandinempt, yeah, i have a branch that displays that last time called15:33
mptcool15:34
kenvandinempt, it's a big screen to show that little info :)15:35
mptyeah15:35
mptI wonder if maybe it should instead be the same as the dialog that comes up when you tap a phone number in a Web page15:35
kenvandinei haven't seen that15:36
kenvandinempt, got a visual i can look at?15:36
mptThat’s because it doesn’t exist yet :(15:36
kenvandineah :)15:36
mptkenvandine, it’s the same dialog that should come up if you tap a phone number that’s included in an SMS ;-)15:58
kenvandinempt, i can't wait to see it :-p16:05
mptkenvandine, I suspect it’s a post-1.0 thing16:23
mptwhich means SIM Services needs its own for now16:23
mptkenvandine, unless you want to implement it *instead* of that standalone screen … For now it would be one of those infernal snap-decision things16:24
* kenvandine will pass :)16:24
mptOkay, just added a note for now then. <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PhoneApp?action=diff&rev2=12&rev1=11>16:27
kenvandinempt, thx16:29
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AgontukI have boot.img, android system.img and ubuntu tar.gz ready for testing. I'm confused about the installtion process. It says to use channel to download images which I don't have. How can I flash my images ?17:10
BeldarAgontuk, What is your device to be installed to?17:15
Agontuksony xperia u (kumquat)17:15
BeldarAgontuk, Have you checked if it is on the support list?17:16
Agontukno, it has no support. I'm sure17:16
BeldarAgontuk, Ah cool, your choice, you using ubuntu for an install?17:17
Agontukyes, I'm on 14.0417:17
Beldaror linux in general17:17
BeldarAgontuk, Cool, the header has a links I thought to the ubuntu install hoeld on.17:18
BeldarAgontuk, for the touch, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install17:19
AgontukI went to that link but it says deprecated instructions :(17:19
AgontukI'm looking at this now http://developer.ubuntu.com/start/ubuntu-for-devices/installing-ubuntu-for-devices/17:19
BeldarAgontuk, Same info as far as flashing touch17:21
Beldarthe only thing available right now is the touch, no ubuntu desktop installs right now I believe17:22
Agontukbut instructions are for supported device :(17:24
BeldarAgontuk, So what is your end goal?17:25
Beldarwhat OS,,,etc17:26
AgontukI just want to have a taste of ubuntu touch for now :)17:27
BeldarAgontuk, Sure, it is rather rough, not really a daily use setup, if that is what your expecting, looks nice, but is in development.17:28
AgontukI already know that and I don't care for a stable version :D17:29
Agontukso no other way to flash ?17:29
BeldarAgontuk, some have side loaded android leaves multiple options, I can't give you a play by play is all, I'm not up on all the possibilities17:30
Beldaractually the regular may be a side load not sure really17:31
AgontukI'll look at other unofficial ports for now17:35
Agontukthanks for your co-opeartion :)17:35
BeldarAgontuk, NO problem, wish I knew more, if we still had a desktop image I would.17:47
Agontukhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Manual_Download_.26_Installation17:54
Agontukthis should work, right ?17:54
BeldarAgontuk, Theoretically yes. ;)18:01
Beldarnice wafting huh18:02
BeldarAgontuk, I'm on 3 other channels so if you need me preface the post with my nick. ;)18:03
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ybonit seems that I can't add an Ubuntu One account from UI since last image, but it's needed to download apps; can I set up this account from command line?19:05
ybonawe_: btw, I know how to reproduce the problem from last time, i.e. when I was not able to enter the pin code19:06
fishsceneybon: That is a good question. I'm not sure if the Ubuntu One closure is just for files or if the entire "Ubuntu One" service (name and everything) is being discontinued and closed out.19:06
ybonbasically, it occurs when I hot-unplug the SIM card19:06
ybonfishscene: that would be a fun situation, given that we need it for downloading apps ;)19:06
awe_ybon, hot unplugging isn't supported19:07
ybonawe_: now I know it ;)19:07
awe_ybon, we have an open item that we need to fix to warn users of this19:07
ybonawe_: but the thing is that once you have done it, restarting has no effect19:07
awe_sure, but rebooting does, right?19:08
ybonI need to run the online-modem from command line19:08
ybonawe_: no19:08
ybonnot event reinstalling19:08
yboneven*19:08
awe_so you're saying you hot swap your SIM and rebooting doesn't detect the SIM being PIN-locked?19:08
ybonyes19:09
ybonI've made the errors twice in my two phones just now19:09
ybonfor both I needed to run online-modem19:10
awe_that's a different bug19:10
ybonand for one I've upgraded to last image but without success, and then ran the online-model19:10
awe_that's a problem with urfkill not properly onlining the modem19:10
ybonoh19:10
ybonare you sure?19:10
ybonlast time it wasn't19:10
awe_if you reboot the phone19:10
awe_and the modem is not onlined19:10
fishsceneybon: Yea, it's unclear if the ubuntu one service is *completely* shutting down, or if it's just the part that deals with files. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne19:10
awe_this is an issue with urfkill19:10
awe_it's been discussed on the mailing-list recently19:10
ybonand this time I've needed to run online-modem too19:10
awe_we're in progress of making more fixes to urfkill to make sure this doesn't happen.19:11
awe_again, none of the PIN code will run unless the modem is online19:11
ybonfishscene: gasp19:11
ybonthat makes sense19:11
awe_ofono's "Online" property controls the radio19:11
awe_it's what we use for FlightMode19:11
ybonawe_: only thing I'm "sure" is that if I hot unplug the SIM, then I cannot enter the pin even if I reboot or reinstall19:12
awe_and the problem is that there's a race condition that can leave the radio Offline after reboot19:12
ybonI need to run the online-model script19:12
ybonand then the problem disappear, I can reboot without problem19:12
ybonwhat I mean is that hot unplugging seems to leave some bad state somewhere19:12
awe_it's probably due to urfkill getting out of sync when the SIM is pulled19:13
awe_ybon, can you please file an ofono bug?19:13
awe_https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ofono/+filebug19:13
ybonokay, doing it19:13
awe_and make sure to include hardware used, image #, and steps to reproduce?19:13
awe_much thanks!19:13
ybonawe_: from last image, when I answer an SMS from top panel, the message doesn't appear in the SMS lists then, do you know which package I need to fill the issue in?19:14
ybonand if someone know how I can enter an UBuntu One account...19:14
awe_when you say SMS lists, do you mean in the messaging-app, or in the message menu?19:21
awe_I think those are your two potential packages to file the bug against19:21
awe_the package for the messaging menu is indicator-messages19:22
awe_I actually have to go offline for awhile; bbl19:22
ybonI mean in the messaging-app19:22
ybonthanks awe_ :)19:23
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ybonhumm, removing then adding the account seems to make it work, but now download fails :s19:49
ybonhumm, no, download do work, install fails19:50
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fginthermterry, I'm an idiot20:08
mterryfginther, what's up?20:09
fginthermterry, the unity8 qml job is fixed now. it was attempting to use the old trusty job instead of the utopic one. I must have missed a push the config file which will make the change permanent20:10
mterryfginther, oh nice.  Easy fix  :)20:10
ybondoes that ring a bell to someone: E0613 22:08:39.688973  4417 downloads_db.cpp:147]  out of memory Error opening database ?20:10
fginthermterry, yep, easy fix. but I should have seen it yesterday20:11
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vthompsonjamesh, you around?20:38
vthompsonballoons, are you around?20:55
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balloonsvthompson, howdy21:01
vthompsonballoons, hey! So do you still have a device with the music app running mediascanner2.0 in a broken state?21:02
balloonsvthompson, I can certainly try21:02
balloonsI have the latest image21:02
vthompsonIt seems that an updated mediascanner2 on image 81 fixed my broken Nexus 4 with 900 songs.21:03
balloonsoO excellent21:03
balloonslet me try21:03
balloonsvthompson, do the tests run?21:04
vthompsonThe mediascanner 2 team did some reindexing work that seems to possibly fixed part of the issue. Andrew still sees the issue on his laptop running trusty with 3000 tracks... so maybe it was made better, but totally fixed21:04
vthompsonI haven't tried tests21:04
balloonsindeed it shows fix released :-) https://bugs.launchpad.net/mediascanner2/+bug/132675321:04
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1326753 in mediascanner2 "Mediascanner2 QML applications fail to start" [Undecided,Confirmed]21:04
vthompsonWell, that's just because the branches landed :)21:05
vthompsonwhen we originally tested 2 of them they did not fix the issue21:05
vthompsonbut they also did some index work21:06
balloonsok, so the tests seem to use the existing library21:08
balloonsbut I agree it's not blowing up anymore21:08
balloonsyay!21:08
vthompsoncool, now to determine if their fix could be improved, but this might be good enough since the Nexus 4 can't really hold 3000 songs reasonably21:09
vthompsonballoons, for reference, how many songs did you have on the device when the app would blow up?21:10
balloonsvthompson, it mattered not21:13
balloonsi tried 0 songs21:13
balloonsI never had more than 10 tho21:13
balloonsI lost my entire collection21:13
vthompsonoh wow, well there goes my theory about the library size mattering21:13
balloonsthe collection loss is a different story21:14
vthompsonyea :)21:14
balloonsit was weird.. andrew had it working in some weird cases, I couldn't get it to work at all and neither could popey21:14
vthompsonI could only make it work when I would spoon feed a few files at a time over MTP. To me it seemed like if it choked while scanning the issue would arise21:15
vthompsonballoons, did the app take around 1 minute to start for you as well?21:16
balloonsvthompson, it just core dumped on load21:21
balloonsvthompson, now it popped right up21:21
balloonsbut I have 3 songs :-)21:21
vthompsonballoons, so it crashed the first launch and then the second launch it fired up quickly?21:23
balloonsvthompson, no everything is fine atm21:31
balloonsI was telling you how it used to be21:31
balloonsstarted right up21:31
balloonsno pause wait or lag21:31
balloonsI have 3 songs21:31
balloonsbefore today it simply crashed no matter what library sie21:31
vthompsonI see. Maybe I should trim my library and it wont take as long at start up. The startup with the loading animation is around 60 seconds with my 900 songs21:32
balloonsthats long21:39
balloonsdoes it get better second start?21:39
vthompsonNope it seems consistent. There seem to sometimes be some app issues on our end where 1) the next button does not do anything and 2) the play/pause button is disabled completely21:40
vthompsonI think the time issue is just another dbus thing, the app seems to try to connect (via mediascanner2's plugin) to dbus and gets a few messages to dbus that were the same as what would previously crash the app21:41
balloonsvthompson, I have to run.. i'm glad to see some progress on this front.. crazy how much ms2 has caused21:49
vthompsonballoons, have a good afternoon!21:51
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robotfuelare there any unity8 people around who can triage a crash bug?23:17
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