[00:08] hello [00:09] Ubuntu SDK tells me that the emulator package is missing when I connect my phone, how do I fix that? [00:23] frecel, that sounds wrong, try installing the ubuntu-emulator package [00:25] pmcgowan: that fixed it, thanks [00:25] frecel, good but I will file a bug [00:26] this should be updated to include some info about the emulator package [00:26] http://developer.ubuntu.com/start/ubuntu-sdk/installing-the-sdk/ [00:26] frecel, indeed [00:27] frecel, do you have the latest qtc plugin from the PPA [00:30] pmcgowan: I updated everything yesterday [00:31] pmcgowan: correction, I updated everything this morning [00:31] frecel, on trusty from the sdk ppa then? [00:31] ok [00:31] hey guys and ladies [00:31] how complete is ubuntu touch? last year it was far from complete? [00:32] mattwj2002: depends by what do you mean by complete [00:32] good point [00:33] mattwj2002: the OS itself is stable and functionality is there, the app ecosystem needs more time to grow there [00:33] well let me ask it this way.....how much has changed in a year [00:33] okay that works [00:33] I have a nexus 7 I am going to install it on :) [00:33] new nexus 7 or old nexus 7? [00:33] mattwj2002: is it a 2013 model? [00:33] 2012 old one [00:34] it's not officially supported then [00:34] really? [00:34] what about galaxy nexus? [00:34] the support for galaxy nexus was dropped a few months ago [00:35] :( [00:35] what the heck [00:35] I feel you bro :D I have the original nexus 7 too [00:36] I bought a nexus 4 just so I can play with Ubuntu on it [00:36] mattwj2002, galaxy nexus could not be brought up to android 4.4 drivers, and old Nexus 7 graphics were busted (tegra) [00:36] regrettable [00:36] indeed [00:36] is there unoffical image for nexus 7 2012? [00:37] *an [00:37] and then my Samsung Galaxy S2 decided to not read my sim card anymore so my Ubuntu powered nexus 4 is my daily driver now === chriadam|away is now known as chriadam [00:37] mattwj2002, no, and the last published image is quite a while ago [00:38] do you guys have a list of supported devices? [00:38] rsalveti, the log I have for that bug is 25 MB but I dont think has more info than I put in the bug [00:38] mattwj2002: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices [00:39] it's a pretty short list though [00:39] I have quite a few android devices [00:39] :P === mattwj20021 is now known as mattwj2002 [00:40] nvm, community ports have been added there since I last read that page and there is quite a few of them [00:40] interesting [00:41] how good is the emulator? [00:42] x86 emulator is decent enough but you'll probably find yourself reaching for the keyboard to try to type in text.. and that won't go. heh. [00:42] what does this mean? [00:42] Working ports, but w/o system-image server [00:44] pmcgowan: I can't seem to be able to take screenshots [00:44] frecel, I believe thats due to the soon to be reverted split greeter [00:45] mattwj2002, that means there are no ota updates available [00:45] oh okay [00:48] pmcgowan: since we are on the topic of screenshots, do you know if there is a way to somehow attach an event listener to the volume rocker? [00:48] I want to take screenshots without having to connect the phone to a computer [00:48] this is how I do it now http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~frecel/+junk/screenshot/view/head:/screenshot.sh [00:50] did you look at how phablet-screenshot does it? and no I dont know how to listen to volume rocker [00:53] phablet-screenshot uses adb to execute some bash on the phone [00:54] pmcgowan: the funny thing is that no one seems to know, and it should be in the api [00:55] I just realized that cordova has a listener for that, I should check if it works on ubuntu [00:57] nvm, that probably won't help since I can't execute a shell script from a html5 app [00:57] frecel, I don't think its exposed, so I understand how would the system decide where to route the event from that button [00:59] I wonder how much a nexus 4 goes for now [00:59] * mattwj2002 looks on swappa [00:59] I bought mine for $200 in november [01:02] pmcgowan: I guess I will just wait until there is a proper way of taking screenshots on the phone, in the mean time my script works [01:02] at list it did before the whole split-greeter kerfuffle [01:02] least* [01:02] frecel, yeah, that will land tomorrow I think, should be back [01:02] frecel that price is still about right [01:03] be nice to have an app like on desktop that waits 5 secs then takes the shot [01:06] pmcgowan: it is relatively easy to do, the hard part is triggering it, right now what I use is the volume level, so if the volume is set to 0 then a screenshot is taken and you can got to Gallery and see it there [01:08] this is the best way of taking screenshots without having to connect your phone to a computer I came up with [01:09] I made it so I can easily document ui bugs and I have not found a single new ui bug since I made it [01:09] frecel, hah typical [01:09] frecel, would be a nice general feature [01:13] hi guys [01:13] my computer locked up :( [01:16] pmcgowan: my guess is that as soon as the whole greeter and dbus thing is over there will be a proper solution for this [01:16] I gotta go buy some food [01:16] probably be back in 30 mins [01:16] hopefully I will have my emulator running by then [01:16] :P [01:50] I am back [01:50] frecel: I need your help please good sir [01:51] so what are we eating? [01:52] how do you install ubuntu touch os on galaxy nexus [01:53] I don't care if it is a bit out of date software wise [01:54] kurros: pizza, I don't know what kind yet, my brother is getting it [01:54] yay [01:55] mattwj2002: I think a bit means 6 months in this case [01:55] man, a lot has changed in even three months. it feels so much smoother now than it used to.. [01:55] a lot has changed since and I wouldn't be suprised if most of the new apps wouldn't even work since the framework changed [01:56] sarnold: I agree, I used ubuntu touch as a daily driver for a few weeks in dec/jan and I am doing it again now, completely different experience [01:57] hmmm [01:59] mattwj2002: but if for some strange reason you still want to do it I would check the old revisions of the installation guide on ubuntu wiki [02:00] frecel I think I have it figured out:) [02:00] this is back in November [02:00] :-s [02:01] you can ubuntu-device-flash --channel stable --device maguro and it might work [02:01] but you'll get an extremely old image [02:02] thanks dobey [02:02] mattwj2002: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install?action=recall&rev=108 [02:03] mattwj2002: this is the latest revision for the tutorial where maguro is still in maitenance instead of depricated [02:07] frecel [02:07] how would I install it this way? [02:07] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/saucy/daily-preinstalled/pending/ [02:14] mattwj2002: why do you want to do this rather than the regular way? [02:14] frecel I guess I don't know how to do it the normal way [02:14] :( [02:14] I am a newbie at this [02:14] 21:59 < dobey> you can ubuntu-device-flash --channel stable --device maguro and it might work [02:15] not android but ubuntu touch os [02:15] that's the "normal way" [02:15] do I need a sudo? [02:15] well, after you've unlocked and rebooted to android [02:15] no [02:15] you need unlocked phone with dev mode enabled [02:16] it will replace all of android though [02:17] matt@nodeskip:~/Desktop$ ubuntu-device-flash --channel stable --device maguro2014/06/12 21:17:05 Device is |maguro| [02:17] 2014/06/12 21:17:06 Flashing version 10 from stable channel and server https://system-image.ubuntu.com to device maguro [02:17] 2014/06/12 21:17:06 ubuntu-touch/stable is a channel alias to stable [02:17] 2014/06/12 21:17:06 Cannot cleanup tree to ensure clean deploymentexit status 255 [02:17] matt@nodeskip:~/Desktop$ [02:17] help? [02:18] sorry I should have used pastebin :( [02:18] yes you should [02:18] I will do that in the future [02:18] sorry! [02:23] mattwj2002: is your phone unlocked? [02:24] it should be [02:24] I have been running cm11 for ages now [02:32] I can't believe you guys dropped support for the galaxy nexus :( [02:34] mattwj2002: blame popey [02:35] * mattwj2002 smacks popey [02:37] dobey: are you one of the guys working on document viewer? [02:40] no [02:47] if your device reboots how long does it take to load Ubuntu Touch OS the first time? === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [02:48] mattwj2002: its just like a normal reboot [02:49] I get a black screen [02:49] after the google with a unlocked screen [02:49] oh it loaded [02:49] :D [02:52] I guess it is pretty pointless if I can't run the latest software :( [02:52] back to cm11 [03:00] mattwj2002: if you really want to try ubuntu touch right now get a nexus 4 [03:01] ok np [03:01] :) [03:01] what about a n5? [03:01] would that also work? [03:01] mattwj2002: n5 will work but that is a community port, not oficially supported [03:02] will it be an offical port eventually? [03:02] or just wait for the bq aquaris to come out with ubuntu, it will probably go for about $200 [03:02] mattwj2002: idk, but probably not [03:02] seems unlikely, between bq and meizu coming out with real hardware soon, I don't think the n5 will be targeted [03:03] real hardware? [03:03] yup [03:03] miezu will probably go for something between $300 and $350 [03:04] n5 is a waste of money :( [03:04] dobey: why? I'm thinking about getting one [03:05] because of the lack of ubuntu support [03:08] mattwj2002: if you want to try something cool on your galaxy nexus I think there is Firefox OS build for it [03:08] or webos [03:09] the cool thing about firefox os is that the development is very rapid [03:09] the uncool thing is that they don't have oti updates and phone manufacturers are not keeping up [03:09] frecel do you have a link to FoxOS [03:10] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox_OS/Firefox_OS_build_prerequisites [03:10] mattwj2002: ^^ [03:11] Samsung Galaxy Nexus We are not currently aware of any variations that are not compatible. [03:11] oh [03:11] nevermind :) [03:12] it is tier 3 though, so the bugfixes might be delayed by a bit [03:13] is there a room for this? [03:15] mattwj2002: I think it's #fxos on irc.mozilla.org [03:17] dobey: can you do something for me? [03:17] dobey: can you put your phone to your ear as if you are about to talk to someone and tell me if you hear anything? [03:19] which phone? [03:19] and anyway, it's late here, so i have to go [03:20] dobey: nexus 4 [03:20] dobey: but if you have a different phone running Ubuntu thats fine too [03:20] even better actually [03:21] my nexus 4 doesn't have a sim, and is running ubuntu, no i don't hear anything [03:21] my nexus 5 isn't running ubuntu any more, and doesn't have my sim in it any more either [03:21] but i didn't hear any weird sound out of it either [03:22] the sim doesn't matter, as long as the phone is on it's good [03:22] hmm.. I get a crackling sound coming out of the speaker all the time, it's very quiet so you only hear it if you put the phone right to your ear [03:25] nope not here [03:25] anyway, must go [03:26] dobey: ok, thanks and good night === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [07:11] good morning === tsdgeos_ is now known as tsdgeos [07:46] Saviq: hi! I read in some document that you'll be working on a "Passphrase to secure device" in System Settings; do you have a minute to talk about that? [07:48] mardy, we'll have to reevaluate that now that we had to back off the split greeter [07:48] mardy, mterry knows more, so we should wait for him [07:49] Saviq: OK. So the split greeter won't come back? [07:49] mardy, it will, but probably not in time for RTM [07:49] Saviq: I see :-/ [07:49] and/or we might need a different plan for low-mem devices [07:50] as the second session will always waste *some* memory [07:50] due to all the duplicated services [07:50] so we might need to support both modes [08:04] Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Sewing Machine Day! :-D [08:05] In the clock app, is there a way to disable an alarm without deleting it? === psivaa-afk is now known as psivaa [08:06] e.g. I have an alarm for the school run, which I want to turn off during the school holidays and sprints. :) [08:06] Hi all. can someone plz help me with latest source code link for libhybris in ubuntu-touch [09:06] does /usr/share/ofono/scrips/scan-for-operators work? === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away [10:12] nice new loading screens on version 73 :p === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:01] Ubuntu Touch Trojita | http://askubuntu.com/q/482737 [11:05] Laney: works for me, on mako with image 79. note that it can take a long time (several minutes). [11:05] I was getting an error immediately [11:05] NetworkRegistration interface not found [11:06] I thought I had phonesim installed or something but apparently not [11:06] I can't get on the cell network which is why I was trying this in the first place [11:06] Laney: ok ... I might have seen that intermittently, but don't know why [11:06] Laney, bug 1321627 ? [11:06] bug 1321627 in urfkill (Ubuntu) "Wrong WWAN value in saved-states" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1321627 [11:08] ogra_: is that soft=true under [WWAN]? [11:08] yeah [11:08] because I do have that [11:08] right, so you have GSM blocked [11:08] I see [11:08] nice bug! [11:22] 3g data isnt working for me anymore in latet devel image :/ [11:22] known? [11:23] wfm [11:25] asac, but yu have a GSM connection ? [11:25] or is it completely off [11:26] ogra_: no data at all [11:26] but you can make/recieve calls ? [11:26] at least the indicator shows just cellular [11:26] yeah call cellular is on [11:26] just no data [11:26] also tried to reboot [11:26] didnt help [11:48] cyphermox: data doesnt work for me anymore on devel build [11:48] what info do you need? [11:49] cellular connection is there for phone calls [11:49] just no data [11:51] check the urfkill settings (see the bug above) [11:51] ok [11:52] ogra_: where can i try turning off flight mode? [11:53] the bug should have the info === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [11:54] wwan=false [11:54] so guess its not the problem [11:54] in cat /var/lib/urfkill/saved-states [11:55] its true for WLAN [11:55] because i disabled it to check if 3g works [11:56] i will rename that file [11:56] and reboot [11:56] lets see [12:01] didnt help [12:01] no 3g [12:01] wlan turned off explicitely to test this [12:01] let me turn it on and check if its up then [12:01] wow [12:01] so turning wlan off, turns off wwnan :) [12:01] i turned it on ... and before it associated i saw a 2g [12:01] icon [12:02] and now the interface has an ip [12:02] wow [12:04] asac, that sounds more like an indicator issue [12:04] lets see [12:04] seems so... after i had data, turning off wifi leavces the modem up [12:04] rebooting now [12:06] bug 1329752 [12:06] bug 1329752 in urfkill (Ubuntu) "turn off wifi, reboot, wwan modem stays off too" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1329752 [12:07] cyphermox: tedg: charles: ^^ [12:07] ogra said might be indicator hence pinging you [12:07] your WWAN isnt blocked in that [12:07] asac, indicator-network is Wellark [12:08] Wellark, Satoris: ^ [12:08] thx charles [12:08] hm, Satoris isn't idling in here, I'll ping him manually [12:09] on the canonical irc he's on and wellark is marked as away [12:09] k. if he works on the phone he should be here [12:09] *nod* [12:09] maybe tell him that too :) [12:10] asac, attach syslog too to the bug ... should show the NM states etc === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [12:17] done [12:18] asac: indicator-network is not touching the WWAN killswitch [12:18] I would say it's urfkill [12:19] kk [12:19] we already have couple of bugs about wrong WWAN state [12:19] on urfkill [12:19] Wellark: the wwan state is correct [12:19] just the modem isnt coming up [12:19] could be that we interpret wlan state as wwan state too :) [12:19] where is that urfkill code? [12:20] well, WWAN == modem in our urfkill right now [12:20] * asac goes for the package [12:20] Wellark: right, but wwan -> soft=false -> modem doesnt come up on boot ... [12:20] thats if wlan soft=true [12:21] ok. you need cyphermox for this [12:21] kk [12:21] already pinged him above [12:21] ok. [12:25] cyphermox: grepping through urfkill its odd that there are places where there is WLAN, but not WWAN in the switch/case codes [12:26] cyphermox: i guess thats (one of) the reason for the weird WWAN state bugs [12:26] cyphermox: see http://paste.ubuntu.com/7638647/ [12:27] tests/killswitch-write.c: wlan = urf_killswitch_new (URF_ENUM_TYPE_WLAN); [12:27] src/urf-arbitrator.c: type = RFKILL_TYPE_WLAN; [12:27] src/urf-input.c: case KEY_WLAN: [12:28] src/urf-daemon.c: case KEY_WLAN: [12:28] src/urf-daemon.c: type = RFKILL_TYPE_WLAN; [12:28] those are the ones that only exist on WLAN not WWAN [12:28] asac: one reason for that might be that WWAN on n4 is not an actual HW kill switch [12:28] could be :) [12:28] just pointing out [12:28] sure. === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [12:32] cyphermox: oha [12:32] i see in arbitrator that we use the WLAN setting as our general state? [12:32] if (type == RFKILL_TYPE_ALL) [12:32] type = RFKILL_TYPE_WLAN; [12:33] guess thats cause of my bug? [12:33] e.g. if you ask for state of all, you return the state of WLAN? so if i turn off wlan it tells whoever is asking that efverything is off? === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk === psivaa is now known as psivaa-afk [12:56] qtcreator doesn't start on my machine because I'm missing /etc/ubuntu-platform-api/application.conf [12:56] can please someone tell me which package should install that file? [12:57] is there any easy way to cross-reference which revision of which branch a click package is based on? === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [13:05] Is there any flashable zip for ubuntu system image ? [13:05] nope [13:06] dbarth: do you have the file /etc/ubuntu-platform-api/application.conf ? [13:07] hello ogra. so users have to be on ubuntu to be able to flash the images ? [13:07] Sarvatt, do you have any bug open for "startup animation missing in a few cases" ? [13:07] (iirc thats a unity8 feature) [13:07] Wellark, hi, following the cellular fail thread, my phone already shows "No signal" when there is none, although I dont think it does when the modem is actually off, is that correct? [13:09] Agontuk, well, we base on AOSP ... google dropped zip support with 4.4 ... additionally the system-image is always a combo of rootfs and android img files, but all we could offer you would be a zip of the rootfs alone, that would result in messed up installs [13:11] ogra_, personally i don't have problems with ubuntu since I'm using it. But if I decide to share it, many users don't have ubuntu, so it'll be a problem. === gnu is now known as Guest23014 [13:12] Agontuk, ubuntu--device-flash is written in Go and should be possible to be run on windows or OSX [13:12] (not sure anyone has done that yet though ... but technically it should work) [13:13] if sommeone wants to package all bits needed for flashing into fedora, SuSE or Arch we'll surely not object to patches to the code if they are needed :) [13:15] First things first. I need to build it properly for my own use :P [13:15] :) [13:15] ugh, sorry Sarvatt ... just noticed i mis-pinged [13:15] If ubuntu-root is used for ramdisk, how the *.rc are used ? [13:15] Saviq, do you have any bug open for "startup animation missing in a few cases" ? [13:16] ogra_, no [13:16] Agontuk, ubuntu-root ? [13:16] ubuntu-root folder in out directory [13:17] Saviq, if i tap a link in a webapp that opens the browser i only get a black screen ... that happens also for some apps that i locked to the launcher when i start them from there [13:17] Agontuk, what porting guide are you using ... [13:17] thats definitely outdated [13:17] ogra_, yeah, please file [13:17] will do [13:18] although that will get fixed with qtcomp I believe [13:18] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [13:19] ev ping, I have some whoopsie bugs and pitti said you were the person that can triage it for me. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/whoopsie/+bug/1329520 [13:19] Ubuntu bug 1329520 in whoopsie (Ubuntu) "whoopsie crashes while processing crash file" [Undecided,New] [13:19] robotfuel: that's not whoopsie, that's actually apport [13:19] that looks like a broken core dump [13:20] Agontuk, the .rc files are only used by the android container ... way later in the boot [13:21] pitti: whoopsie-upload-all made me think it was whoopsie. I'll move the bug to apport, do you know who I talk to about getting the apport bug fixed? [13:21] Agontuk, the system boots into an ubuntu initrd ... which is not much different from what you have on a ubuntu PC boot ... it then switches to the ubuntu rootfs and at some point later fires up an lxc container with android in it ... only in that step the android rc files are used [13:22] during porting you will need to pull out some data from these files for i.e. the udev rule to creat the proper devices in ubuntu (with the right permissions) [13:22] but they are not involved in booting the device itself ... only for the container that is started later on [13:23] perfect explanation :) [13:24] which file contains the partition table then ? [13:26] the bootloader ... we usually dont touch the partition table at all ... we use the userdata partition to put loop mounted img files in there [13:29] mardy: don't have it either [13:30] dbarth: and does qtcreator work for you? it aborts here, because that file is missing [13:31] zsombi: hi! Maybe you can help defining the issue? My qtcreator aborts because /etc/ubuntu-platform-api/application.conf is missing, and I don't know where to get that file from [13:32] mardy, ask zbenjamin [13:32] zbenjamin: hi :-) ^ [13:33] mardy: when does it abort? [13:34] zbenjamin: before showing any UI, right at start up: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7638908/ [13:34] pmcgowan: let me check that.. right now the "No Signal" is a bit mysterious === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [13:35] Wellark, I actually do not have signal for this carrier so its working correctly [13:35] mardy: scary i never saw that [13:35] Wellark, seems it should do the same when modem is off [13:35] zsombi: any idea where this error message comes from? Ubuntu Platform API: Unable to find module configuration file [13:35] pmcgowan: we will show modem off as an error, but not implemented yet [13:35] Wellark, ok [13:36] as the modem should never ever be offline during normal operation [13:36] mardy: hi, do you have any time to help me get my accounts plugin working on the phone? [13:36] zbenjamin: Ubuntu Platform API, qtubuntu? [13:36] pete-woods: yep [13:36] zsombi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7638908/ [13:36] zsombi: thats all it says [13:37] zsombi: and if I strace it, I see that it's trying to opening /etc/ubuntu-platform-api/application.conf, which is not there [13:37] zbenjamin, zsombi: do you have that file, BTW? [13:37] mardy: no [13:37] mardy: basically I have a provider file which works on the desktop now (http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-api-team/unity-scope-vimeo/14.10/view/head:/data/accounts/providers/vimeo.provider) [13:38] zbenjamin: mardy: nope [13:38] mardy: but it looks like I need to cook up some QML on the phone [13:38] but I'm not really sure where to start [13:38] zbenjamin: maybe I have a broken qtcreator plugin; is there a way to list them? [13:38] I was a bit puzzled by the URIs in the google plugin [13:39] pete-woods: you are using OAuth 2.0 or 1.0a? [13:39] mardy: dpkg -l | qtcreator-plugin [13:39] + grep of course [13:39] mardy: this is OAuth2 [13:40] .0 [13:41] mardy: works for me, but on trusty [13:41] zbenjamin: do you have this? qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu [13:41] mardy: yes [13:41] pete-woods: then take the qml file from facebook as an example [13:42] you will need -remotelinux -cmake and -ubuntu [13:42] pete-woods: basically, you only need to use the vimeo APIs to retrieve the username, and set it on the account [13:42] pete-woods: but as a start, you can skip that part, and just check if the account gets created [13:43] pete-woods: hey pete whats the state on the stuff we worked on in malta? [13:43] zbenjamin: the APIs we need are in distro now [13:43] pete-woods: do you have some docs ready? [13:47] zbenjamin: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity-scopes-api/trunk/view/head:/include/unity/scopes/Registry.h [13:47]