[00:01] <daftykins> D:
[00:03] <shauno> other fun one to note is that bsd's dd doesn't respond well do sigusr1.  it just quits.
[00:03] <daftykins> aww :(
[00:03] <daftykins> i kinda wish there was a dd that constantly printed stats
[00:04] <daftykins> stats are great.
[00:04] <shauno> "wow, this is taking ages .. I think I'll accidentally kill it and start again"
[00:04] <daftykins> >:D
[00:04] <daftykins> you know what took ages? cyanogenmod's 200MB zip copied over USB to this phone at 900KB/sec haha :D
[00:05] <shauno> oh that sounds like fun :)
[00:08] <shauno> I still don't get the attraction of android :/
[00:08] <daftykins> are you an iPhone man?
[00:08] <shauno> yeah
[00:08] <daftykins> i find them really illogical devices to use
[00:09] <daftykins> well, that's not entirely fair - basially their approach just doesn't work for me
[00:09] <shauno> I have trust issues with google
[00:09] <daftykins> i love that i could just unlock the bootloader of this HTC and put a vanilla OS on instead of HTC's atrocious thing
[00:09] <daftykins> yeah, i guess they're not great in some ways, but i don't see Apple being any better
[00:10] <shauno> apple want my wallet, google want my data
[00:10] <shauno> I'm much more comfortable with the wallet relationship because I control it
[00:10] <daftykins> :)
[00:11] <diddledan> shauno: bsd's dd (or at least apple's) responds to SIGINFO
[00:11] <shauno> and then there's fun nerdy stuff, like ios actually supports ipv6 properly
[00:11] <daftykins> i see no practical use for that
[00:12] <daftykins> my ISP hasn't even switched yet =/
[00:13] <diddledan> the half of the internet hosted at amazon can't switch or dualstack yet because amazon have thus far refused to turn v6 on
[00:13] <shauno> I think it's a pretty weird thing for an OS to neglect in 2014
[00:13] <diddledan> and because amazon havent the isp says not enough benefit and because the isp refuses amazon does the same
[00:14] <shauno> it's even weirder that android has managed to break parts that worked fine in linux
[00:14] <diddledan> o_O
[00:14] <diddledan> howso?
[00:14] <shauno> connect an android device to a network which has v6, but either doesn't have v4, or doesn't have dhcp on v4
[00:15] <shauno> it'll bring up v6, send a dhcp request on v4.  and then teardown v6 when it times out waiting for a dhcp response on v4
[00:15] <diddledan> am I going to have to turn off dhcp to test?
[00:15] <daftykins> is this not a sweeping statement based on a specific version?
[00:15] <diddledan> s/to/and/
[00:15] <diddledan> obviously if I were going to test I'd need to turn off dhcp - that wasn't the question, the question was more "should I test"
[00:16] <shauno> https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=32630
[00:16] <daftykins> there's definitely some quirky stuff going on, i think they said VPN usage is broken on the latest android versions (Nexus devices)
[00:21] <diddledan> oddness, IPv6 isn't routing for me
[00:21] <diddledan> it used to work
[00:22] <daftykins> anyone got a net connection with native v4 and v6? i'm curious how it displays it
[00:22] <daftykins> 'cause mines web admin makes it look like you can only see the v4 address
[00:22] <daftykins> sort of... no room to show v6's
[00:24] <diddledan> oh that'll be why - I turned IP6 to LL-only while testing something
[00:26] <diddledan> damn, it's friday the thirteenth
[00:27] <diddledan> what's gonna go wrong?
[00:27] <shauno> it's friday?!
[00:27] <diddledan> kinda
[00:28] <daftykins> mostly
[00:28] <daftykins> ;D
[00:30] <shauno> well that's handy I guess
[00:30] <shauno> I thought it was saturday.  I was waiting until monday to do something, but if tomorrow's friday I can do it then instead
[00:33] <shauno> hm.  that also means I should go to sleep tonight
[00:35] <diddledan> sleep?!?!?!!
[00:38] <shauno> mhm.
[00:38] <shauno> I don't mind not sleeping, but I tend to adopt the appearance of a crackhead.
[00:38] <shauno> I have to go talk to the bank sometime soon, so that may not be optimal
[00:39] <daftykins> :D
[00:39] <daftykins> whilst my parents new PC was installing updates, i went out into the garden
[00:39] <daftykins> i suddenly realised how deathly pale i look in proper sunlight
[00:43] <diddledan> want a shoddy scare mongering politico? go to australia: http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/security-it/julie-bishops-websites-cost-113000-20140605-zrxlh.html
[00:44] <daftykins> but websites are magic
[00:44] <diddledan> and a response: http://www.poststat.us/fear-mongering-journalist-pointlessly-blasts-wordpress/
[00:54] <ali1234> i'll make you a wordpress site for half that
[00:54] <ali1234> also 5 hours per week maintenance? lol
[00:55] <shauno> there's probably a lot more going on than just the site itself.  the ones they're actually complaining about, price-wise, are running on Sharepoint
[00:56] <ali1234> ah
[00:56] <daftykins> ugh sharepoint
[00:58] <shauno> easily missed when both the original article & the rebutal spend most their time on the fact her own site is on wordpress, which is a completely disconnected issue
[00:59] <daftykins> =]
[01:00] <shauno> do xml documents actually require a root element? or am I going nuts
[01:00] <diddledan> shauno: I think that depends on the parser
[01:01] <diddledan> shauno: e.g. xmpp is a stream of independant xml root elements which effectively makes the stream rootless
[01:01] <shauno> hm.  I'll have to remember that for my next "why on earth is this using xml" rant
[01:02] <diddledan> JSON is a much friendlier format
[01:02] <diddledan> and many languages support it as a native thing (the way that javascript would treat it)
[01:04] <shauno> having with something that "sort of" uses xml files for configuration.  except I'm not convinced they're actually xml
[01:04] <diddledan> I used to be an advocate of xml. I question my sanity now
[01:05] <diddledan> evil xml example number 1: apple's .plist format
[01:05] <diddledan> apple completely failed to understand what xml was about
[01:06] <diddledan> xml element says to parser: "and the next config you're about to read, is boolean. what do you mean it's not part of me?"
[01:06] <shauno> hah, yeah.  that one still boggles my mind
[01:07] <diddledan> it seems they wanted to use xml but didn't want any of that xml-crap
[01:08] <diddledan> e.g. anything defined by the xml spec
[01:08] <diddledan> the only similarity is it has <tags>
[01:09] <shauno> it's an interesting challenge actually trying to parse it though
[01:10] <diddledan> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/MVr9dyzk
[01:10] <diddledan> I think they worked off the idea that you won't keep the document in memory to manipulate but instead run it through as a stream
[01:11] <diddledan> which means modern xml parsers can't handle it
[01:13] <diddledan> I believe the xml spec specifically makes a point that documents have no order
[01:14] <diddledan> something that apple requires
[01:15] <shauno> right.  that's what makes parsing it fun.  it's almost entirely abusing nth-child
[01:15] <shauno> and praying no-one uses a dict in a value :/
[01:16] <shauno> I coulda swore I kept a backup of my retropie config, but apparently not.  so I think I'll shelf it for tonight
[01:16] <diddledan> "do you ever use your dictaphone?" : "no I use my fingers like everyone else"
[01:17] <diddledan> sorry, you just reminded me of that
[01:17] <shauno> remind me to get you spayed
[01:18] <diddledan> I know you love me really
[01:19] <diddledan> but being that I'm a guy, and you're a guy, I suppose you have trouble admitting it for fear of "catching gay"
[01:21] <diddledan> I hear from the religious south that just watching bambi is enough to convert a young man into a raging homosexual. and then once one person in the community has caught it they go around infecting everyone else.
[01:22] <diddledan> kinda like the film contagion - only worse
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[01:42] <shauno> this I may never understand; http://i.imgur.com/ko78wTt.png
[01:43] <shauno> I mean, it's not dialup bad, but it feels like it
[01:44] <diddledan> wtf? that's crazyslow
[01:49] <shauno> yup
[01:50] <shauno> if you hang a use disk off one of their routers, write operations seem to be incredibly slow.  and creating a metric buttload of hardlinks is a lot of individual write operations
[01:50] <diddledan> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6iW-8xPw3k
[01:51] <diddledan> I've got mine plugged-in via USB
[01:51] <diddledan> that video goes with this article about hacking holes-in-the-wall: http://www.maximumpc.com/teens_demonstrate_easiest_way_hack_atm_rtfm_2014
[01:53] <mapps> ah got my favourite popup
[01:53] <mapps> KEVINS GOLDEN GOOSE
[01:53] <mapps> :d
[01:54] <shauno> see this I don't get.  that maximumpc site is advertising my isp to me.  for a bundle lower than I'm currently on.  and showing the "first 6 months" price that I can't get because I'm an existing customer
[01:56] <daftykins> :/
[01:56] <daftykins> could you cancel then sign up again? :D
[01:56] <shauno> everyone claims they track us to make advertising "more relevant".  and it's hogwash
[01:56] <shauno> eg, facebook lately is full of adverts for a hotel that "still has rooms left".  a hotel I've already booked.
[01:57] <diddledan> shauno: doesn't stop them tracking you
[01:57] <shauno> I get amazon ads for things I've just bought too
[01:57] <diddledan> >.<
[01:58] <daftykins> http://www.maximumpc.com/files/u22694/beautyflat.jpg
[01:58] <daftykins> haha my same speaker set
[01:58] <daftykins> hilarious how many places it shows up
[01:59] <shauno> hah, I was just looking at that too
[01:59] <diddledan> needs moar screens
[01:59] <daftykins> and better screens at that
[01:59] <daftykins> those look a tad basic for such an effort to go to :D
[02:00] <shauno> I'm not sure I'd agree with "and looked good in the living room" though
[02:01] <daftykins> indeed
[02:03] <shauno> anyway, bedtime :)
[02:04] <daftykins> nn sir
[02:04] <daftykins> ah, Captain Scarlet amuses me so
[02:05] <daftykins> the way they say "SIG" to each other, i like to think it really means s*** is good, not 'Spectrum is Green'
[02:08] <diddledan> perhaps they acronymed s*** is good and then backronymed to spectrum is green and told everyone that's what it always meant?
[02:08] <daftykins> >:D
[02:08] <daftykins> well, sadly they say it longhand sometimes too
[02:18] <diddledan> does anyone have any experience with vyatta (or the now opensource project fork vyos as would be what I would install - brocade bought the original and ceased releasing the community edition)
[02:19] <daftykins> annoying when takeovers do that
[02:23] <mapps> off in 30mins
[02:23] <mapps> :D
[02:23] <daftykins> \o/
[02:25] <mapps> iphone/nexus7/netbook:D
[02:25] <mapps> nexus7 for flight..cant use a netbook no room really
[02:25] <daftykins> lol
[02:25] <daftykins> true gadget geekery
[02:25] <mapps> ja
[02:25] <daftykins> i think i'll go to the wedding at the end of the month without a lappy
[02:26] <daftykins> only 3 or 4 days :>
[02:26] <mapps> pffff
[02:26] <mapps> but why
[02:27] <daftykins> nice to have a break
[02:28] <mapps> pfff
[02:28] <mapps> lies
[02:31] <daftykins> ;]
[06:04] <MooDoo> morning all
[06:11] <knightwise> morning Moodoo
[06:29] <knightwise> anyone else noticed that 14.04 has a hard time connecting to bleutooth mice ?
[06:30] <knightwise> Cannot for the life of me connect my macbook pro to my apple touchpad OR my apple mouse
[06:30] <knightwise> strange.
[07:12] <dwatkins> allo allo
[07:13] <Myrtti> gah. what a morning
[07:13] <nigelb> ouch
[07:13] <nigelb> that's not a good start :)
[07:13] <dwatkins> hope things improve, Myrtti
[07:14] <Myrtti> it's not bad, I just feel like someone has whacked me with a bag full of sleep sprinkles
[07:15] <Myrtti> I do hate summer a bit
[07:15]  * dwatkins sends Myrtti some Scottish rain
[07:16] <Myrtti> it's hot, because it's summer. Can't keep the windows open really, because bugs and pollen. If you do keep windows open, they won't help a lot because you'd need to keep the curtains open too. If you keep curtains open, you wake up at latest 5am (if in UK).
[07:16] <MooDoo> I could easily lie down at my desk and go to sleep lol
[07:17] <Myrtti> Winter is lovely. Less bugs, nights are dark, and temperature can be adjusted with woollen socks and radiators.
[07:17] <Myrtti> no pollen either
[07:22] <dwatkins> Winter is coming.
[07:32] <diddledan> only 4 months
[07:37] <dwatkins> indeed, and only 193 sleeps until christmas
[07:38] <MooDoo> yay
[07:41] <popey> Morning!
[07:41] <popey> How many sleeps until we stop hearing about a) World Cup, and b) Scotland
[07:41] <Myrtti> I actually kinda watched the first game yesterday
[07:42] <Myrtti> well, the last half at least
[07:42] <Myrtti> football I'm not too keen on but it's still a tradition to try atleast to watch the first game
[07:43] <popey> ahh
[07:44] <Myrtti> ice hockey on the other hand... a bit more interested in that. Not enough to keep a tab on NHL or the Finnish league, but Olympics and the World Championships
[07:49] <czajkowski> popey: best app to use for twitter on ubuntu ?
[07:49] <popey> i use tweetdeck in a browser tab
[07:49] <czajkowski> cant use that atm though
[07:49] <popey> have done for some time because all twitter clients suck
[07:49] <popey> why not?
[07:49] <czajkowski> ah it's been fixed
[07:50] <popey> ♥ that thing?
[07:50] <czajkowski> http://gizmodo.com/if-you-use-tweetdeck-for-chrome-you-should-log-out-now-1589323654
[07:50] <czajkowski> there was an issue this week
[07:50] <czajkowski> dear sweden why are you so god damn expensive!
[07:53] <popey> indeed, there was.
[07:55] <Myrtti> I first thought I'd answer that but I noticed it wasn't really a question
[07:55] <czajkowski> Myrtti: ;)
[07:56] <czajkowski> Myrtti: just looking at yesterdays receipts I got a cab as in a hurry from the station to my hotel which cost 25 quid
[07:56] <czajkowski> and the train from the airport to the station was 20 quid
[07:56] <Myrtti> but the short answer would be distance from more fertile and sunny areas of Europe, distance between habitational areas and no oil reserves of their own.
[07:56] <czajkowski> which was a lot better value. just boggling how they have tourists here
[07:56] <popey> everywhere has tourists
[07:56] <czajkowski> shall walk to the station today, 13 min walk :)
[07:57] <czajkowski> Oslo was very pretty on tuesday, Helsinki on wednesday meant I got ot meet jussi which was nice! but everything there is so massively spread out.
[07:57] <Myrtti> tourists are usually instructed and nudged to use tourist bus passes
[07:58] <Myrtti> s/bus/public transport/
[07:58] <Myrtti> ah, forgot to mention the amount of capital tied to brick walls due to higher building and upkeep costs.
[08:00] <Myrtti> boo, no mail for us :-(
[08:02] <czajkowski> still it's been nice to visit over here, but as of today no more travel for a week! \o/
[08:04] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Sewing Machine Day! :-D
[08:06] <bashrc> happy sewing machine day
[08:14] <MooDoo> It's friday the 13th, that overrides any other day :)
[08:15] <popey> pffft
[08:21] <foobarry> don't tell my wife its sewing machine day
[08:21] <foobarry> every day is sewing machine day in our house
[08:21] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[08:22]  * dwatkins finally gets business cards
[08:25] <TwistedLucidity> dwatkins: How many spelling mistooks? :-)
[08:25] <dwatkins> thankfully none, TwistedLucidity
[08:25] <dwatkins> I checked the form several times before submitting
[08:26] <TwistedLucidity> I have a simple surname. The number of times people get in wrong staggers me.
[08:27] <knightwise> does anyone know what terminal app Elementary Uses ?
[08:27] <knightwise> I would  love to use that theme on my Ubuntu standard install
[08:28] <diddledan> I've got a private nameserver set up on a non-routable IP. I'm wondering if I can use a public NS delegation record to point to the private server so it works seamlessly without having to change my lan to use the private dns server as it's forwarder?
[08:28] <diddledan> I ask because I set up just such a record last night and it still isn't working - the NS record itself comes out of public dns fine
[08:28] <foobarry> pantheon-terminal
[08:28] <foobarry> knightwise:  ^^
[08:29] <foobarry> there is also an elementary theme
[08:29] <knightwise> foobarry: :) Too bad the nobel prizes for smartasses are all handed out
[08:29] <knightwise> foobarry: elementary theme for ubuntu ?
[08:29] <foobarry> yes
[08:31] <knightwise> ahaa
[08:31] <knightwise> just found it
[08:31] <knightwise> interesting :)
[08:34] <knightwise> any of you guys using a bleutooth mouse on 14.01
[08:34] <knightwise> 14.04
[08:34] <diddledan> looks like my problem is with google's public forwarding nameservers - a query for subdomain.example.com specifically asking for ns records from 8.8.8.8 returns correctly but changing the query to any returns a blank result
[08:35] <diddledan> opendns' servers respond correctly
[08:36] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:36] <diddledan> oh I tell a lie, it's my ISP I'm querying
[08:39] <diddledan> changing to a more reliable resolving server still doens't fix my problem tho
[08:39] <diddledan> I can query the server I've delegated to fine and I can query the delegation but for some reason my systems aren't completing the lookup
[08:44] <diddledan> ok, maybe this will fix my problem, but doesn't answer the initial question as to whether it's possible: I've told my router to split dns requests for my subdomain.example.com to the correct server without relying on NS record resolution
[08:47] <davmor2> bigcalm: you up yet?
[08:48] <bigcalm> ¬,¬
[08:48] <bigcalm> davmor2: I've been up since 8.45am
[08:48] <bigcalm> Which is a very early start for me
[08:49] <davmor2> bigcalm: I finally found a really nice image for xoom do you want the details?
[08:49] <davmor2> cm11 4.4.2 :)
[08:53] <MooDoo> davmor2: I've removed CM from my phone, it was a bag of poo on my s3, running miui now
[08:56] <bigcalm> davmor2: sure. breath some life into the old dog
[08:56] <davmor2> MooDoo: yeah but still gets update the xoom has had none for ages I think it was android 4.0 or 4.1 so half the apps no longer work
[08:57] <MooDoo> davmor2: that's the only down side i have it's 4.1.1
[09:08] <dwatkins> I'm still running CM 7.0.1 on my Desire HD, it's based on Gingerbread.
[09:10] <foobarry> dwatkins: my htc desire will be retired when i get a moto G LTE version
[09:10] <foobarry> running CM7
[09:13] <foobarry> someone is "vape-ing" in the office :-|
[09:14] <bigcalm> Farting?
[09:14] <foobarry> not comfortable with it.
[09:14] <foobarry> no, e-cig
[09:17] <dwatkins> foobarry: yeah, one of my colleagues has one of those, it's very disconcerting
[09:17] <popey> isn't it just glycerol?
[09:17] <dwatkins> it creates visible vapour and there's also nicotine in it, of course
[09:18] <foobarry> yep
[09:18] <Myrtti> and flavours and possibly nicotine
[09:18] <foobarry> considering we have staff members who throw a paddy when air con is turned on, i don't think e-cig will be looked on favourably
[09:19] <dwatkins> heh, I wish our air con would get turned off - it's set to permanently heat my part of the office
[09:21] <foobarry> 4.4. Users are not permitted to smoke in any area of the Library (Smoking electronic cigarettes to be included within this regulation).
[09:21] <foobarry> probably applies to other offices
[09:22] <foobarry> the smoking policy is well outdated
[09:22] <foobarry> Smoking
[09:22] <foobarry> refers to smoking tobacco or anything which contains tobacco, or smoking
[09:22] <foobarry> any other substance. Smoking also includes being in posse
[09:22] <foobarry> ssion of lit tobacco or of
[09:22] <foobarry> anything lit which contains tobacco, or bei
[09:22] <foobarry> ng in possession of any other lit substance
[09:22] <foobarry> in a form which it could be smoked
[09:22] <foobarry> 1
[09:27] <foobarry> reading a book with rubbish photography, and in the intro the author says, yeah i'm rubbish at photography :-| even though the photos are a really important part of the book. i thought publishers were more professional than this :o|
[10:22] <davmor2> MooDoo: did you have a play with lxc yet?
[10:22] <SuperMatt> <3 lxc
[10:22] <SuperMatt> may more than docker
[10:22] <SuperMatt> ^way
[10:24] <davmor2> SuperMatt: did you see the lxc uos sessions they look awesome lxc nesting looks crazy
[10:25] <SuperMatt> I didn't
[10:25] <SuperMatt> I will go back and watch them though
[10:25] <SuperMatt> I was the company to use lxc more
[10:39] <MooDoo> davmor2: no not yet, I've not got the memory for my dedi yet which should come today, I'll then need to install ubuntu and then play with it
[10:40] <MooDoo> davmor2: well it doesn't look to hard lxc-create etc
[10:41] <davmor2> MooDoo: muhahahahaha
[10:42] <MooDoo> davmor2: oh I see luring me into a false sense of security eh?  I might as well just bloomin learn juju over night
[10:42] <popey> \o/ lxc
[10:43] <popey> i use lxc at home, tis fun
[10:43] <MooDoo> popey: davmor2 has conned me into trying it now i've got a new server at home
[10:43] <popey> hah
[10:43] <popey> i used juju for a bit at home
[10:43] <popey> which can use lxc underneath the covers
[10:43] <popey> juju deploy minecraft
[10:43] <popey> ☻
[10:43] <popey> instant minecraft server for a quick game, then destroy it when done
[10:45] <bigcalm> I miss snowflake
[10:47] <popey> snowflake?
[10:47] <popey> oh, did she shut it down?
[10:49] <bigcalm> Something like the server can't run mc any more
[10:49] <bigcalm> I lack details to impart
[10:51] <popey> ok
[10:59] <MooDoo> my son loves minecraft :)
[11:00] <davmor2> MooDoo: Juju and lxc rock,  Juju + lxc + a cloud account rock harder
[11:04] <diddledan> I'm hungry
[11:14] <davmor2> diddledan: pleased to meet you Hungry I'm Dave
[11:38] <MooDoo> davmor2: I'll stick with stock ubuntu and lxc while I play with it.
[11:39] <bigcalm> If I want to install a package from a .deb that I already have installed from the repos, should I uninstall the installed version 1st?;
[11:50] <popey> bigcalm: no
[13:43] <foobarry> http://www.linuxvoice.com/free-sample-issue-2/
[13:56] <bigcalm> popey: ta
[13:58] <awilkins> Shiny, ice-cream tub-bot
[13:58]  * awilkins reflects that in a more innocent age, "tub-bot" would not conjure forth awful images
[14:05] <davmor2> awilkins: you were thinking robot wars with a bot made from a cast iron bath tub too right ?
[14:07] <bigcalm> awilkins: stop saying tub
[14:11] <awilkins|tub> So, Canada has a gay head of state now.
[14:17] <TwistedLucidity> awilkins|tub: Nice to have a happy politician for a change.
[14:28] <ali1234> i tried to use juju yesterday: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/juju-core/+bug/1329429
[15:05] <foobarry> i can taste that vape pipe
[15:05] <foobarry> when it is smoked near me
[15:11] <foobarry> is it national go home early day today?
[15:12] <popey> I might go and light the bbq
[15:13] <TwistedLucidity> It's post release round my way. We're having a breather....
[15:43] <diddledan> awilkins|tub: it's not as bad as combining tub and girl
[15:44] <awilkins> You're a bad man
[15:44] <diddledan> hehe
[15:44] <diddledan> yes. yes I am.
[15:45] <diddledan> interesting, I just received an email from synergy-project.org detailing https://synergy-enterprise.com
[15:46] <bigcalm> The release email is buzz word tastic!
[15:47] <bigcalm> "With Synergy Enterprise we provide a professional solution backed by enterprise-level technical support. Our bug prioritization and feature selection process is carefully tailored to customer requirements and appropriateness for the commercial environment."
[15:48] <diddledan> it's not badly priced either: $79/use
[15:48] <diddledan> user
[15:48] <diddledan> let me try that again: $79/user/year
[15:56] <shauno> that's a pretty terrible webpage though :/
[15:56] <bigcalm> $79 per mouse movement
[15:56] <bigcalm> Heh
[15:57] <shauno> the actual "what is synergy" bit looks like fineprint
[16:00] <bigcalm> Early finish so I can drive to south wales!
[16:01] <bigcalm> Was meant to finish earlier, but work has been relentless
[16:01] <bigcalm> Have a good weekend peeps
[16:03] <shauno> I'm not sure how to say "have fun in south wales" without sounding like I'm taking the mick ;)
[16:13] <bigcalm> shauno: you sound like my boss :P
[16:14] <bigcalm> Going to spend time in the Brecon Beacons
[16:14] <diddledan> leisure suit larry reloaded is currently $3.99 over on gog.com (drm free)
[16:14] <diddledan> windows and mac only tho
[16:14] <bigcalm> Might run on wine
[16:15]  * bigcalm disappears
[16:48] <shauno> I thoguht most the gog games were in dosbox containers?
[16:49] <diddledan> only the ones that started out as dos games
[17:05] <diddledan> I'm not sure I agree with this: http://blog.rht.com/real-reason-became-developer/
[17:05] <mapps> yo
[18:18] <mapps> well that aint ideal
[18:18] <mapps> layed a horse based on my pictures and just lost 1200 quid
[18:18] <mapps> didnt know i ws 5 seconds behind
[18:44] <diddledan> o_O
[18:45] <gebbione> life is a bitch
[18:46] <daftykins> ok.
[18:46] <mapps> yep
[18:46] <mapps> :D
[18:47] <mapps> just kinda annoying..being that im at a diasvantage
[18:47] <mapps> disadvantage
[18:47] <mapps> but who cares
[18:53] <mapps> i  bet mexico and under 2.5 ;0
[18:53] <mapps> ive bet spain and over for the next game :D
[18:57] <ali1234> does anyone know where i can get a static busybox 2.0 for armel?
[18:58] <diddledan> ali1234: compile it
[19:01] <ali1234> nvm i found it in sid
[19:01] <ali1234> and it's 1.22 not 2.0
[23:49] <diddledan_> we've got lightning directly overhead
[23:49] <diddledan_> I'm skeered