bduk1 | More almal | 05:33 |
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Kilos | hi bduk1 die_held bushtech and whoever else isnt frozen solid | 05:45 |
bduk1 | Neeman kilos. Dis nie so erg nie. dis 'n heerlike volmaan Vrydag die 13de. | 05:48 |
Kilos | ai! | 05:51 |
bushtech | brrr! hi kilos, everybody | 06:12 |
Kilos | haha cold hey | 06:12 |
Kilos | ohi ThatGraemeGuy | 06:48 |
inetpro | good morning | 06:48 |
Kilos | hi there inetpro | 06:49 |
Kilos | hey drussell what are you okes doing to me | 06:49 |
Kilos | how can you disable the compose key option | 06:49 |
drussell | Kilos: 'sup dude, who's messing with you now? ;o) | 06:51 |
Kilos | haha | 06:51 |
Kilos | the compose key option should have an enable button if you wanna disable it by default | 06:52 |
Kilos | http://askubuntu.com/questions/452705/how-to-configure-compose-key-in-14-04 | 06:53 |
Kilos | i dont see the things in dconf that they do | 06:53 |
Kilos | input-sources isnt there | 06:54 |
drussell | Kilos: looking... | 06:55 |
Kilos | the dev guys must make unity more user friendly for normal peeps not make things more difficult | 06:57 |
drussell | Kilos: just so I'm clear, compose key works out of the box for you yes? but there's no way to disable it, correct? | 06:57 |
Kilos | nosir it doesnt work | 06:58 |
Kilos | ive tried left and right super and left and right alt | 06:58 |
drussell | Kilos: that's fscked, it does here, definitely and I've not changed anything from a default install | 06:58 |
drussell | ã | 06:58 |
Kilos | oh my | 06:58 |
drussell | Kilos: so for me it's hold down ã | 06:59 |
drussell | lol | 06:59 |
Kilos | where is that a thing | 06:59 |
drussell | Kilos: so for me it's hold down the left shift key, tap the right AltGR key and then use the compose sequence I want, i.e. ~ a = ã | 06:59 |
Kilos | i use the degrees sign lots but cant get it here | 07:00 |
Kilos | oi this kbd aint got the altgr thing | 07:00 |
drussell | Kilos: what's the usual combination for that | 07:00 |
Kilos | you hold the compose key and hit o twice | 07:01 |
drussell | Kilos: (degrees I mean) | 07:01 |
drussell | ° | 07:01 |
Kilos | there you go | 07:01 |
drussell | hmm, yeah | 07:01 |
drussell | Kilos: so try this exact combination.... | 07:01 |
drussell | Kilos: left or right shift, hold it down | 07:02 |
drussell | Kilos: tap and release right Alt | 07:02 |
Kilos | OO | 07:02 |
drussell | Kilos: then do the oo | 07:02 |
Kilos | OO | 07:02 |
drussell | hmm sorry, when I say tap and release right alt, release the shift too | 07:02 |
drussell | ° | 07:02 |
Kilos | ai! | 07:03 |
drussell | Kilos: hold down shift, tap and release right alt key, release shift, type oo .... should get you ° | 07:05 |
Kilos | oo | 07:05 |
drussell | Kilos: that is REALLY strange | 07:05 |
drussell | Kilos: do me a favour, try switching to UK or US keymap just briefly, see if it's a keymap problem | 07:06 |
Kilos | i am using us i think lemme look | 07:06 |
Kilos | eish where do i find that | 07:07 |
Kilos | my settings doesnt show input devices | 07:08 |
Kilos | personal hardware and system options | 07:09 |
drussell | system settings, keyboard, typing tab, link at the bottom that says text entry | 07:09 |
drussell | input sources is there | 07:10 |
Kilos | ya english us | 07:10 |
Kilos | then if you go keyboard setting bottom right it shows compose key disabled | 07:11 |
ThatGraemeGuy | mornings | 07:12 |
drussell | Kilos: yeah, same here but it still worked | 07:16 |
drussell | Kilos: ok try this instead.... | 07:17 |
drussell | Kilos: on that window where it says disabled for the compose key hold down the left mouse button where it says disabled, and then select Right Alt | 07:19 |
drussell | Kilos: then just tap right alt and oo | 07:19 |
drussell | Kilos: ° | 07:19 |
Kilos | hehe lemme try that | 07:20 |
Kilos | nope | 07:22 |
drussell | Kilos: that is just whack | 07:22 |
Kilos | lemme find a keyboard with altgr thing | 07:23 |
drussell | Kilos: ok | 07:23 |
Kilos | np drussell ty for trying | 07:23 |
drussell | Kilos: also check the .xsession-errors file in your homedir to see if there are any errors there | 07:23 |
Kilos | the pro helped me before, and i member now that i had to put the yucky sun keyboard in then set something and then go back to the lekker kb | 07:24 |
Kilos | wbb | 07:26 |
theblazehen | Anyone know the rough area where Kilos lives? | 10:41 |
theblazehen | He might wanna look at wug.za.net | 10:41 |
theblazehen | Maaz: tell Kilos have a look at wug.za.net | 10:41 |
Maaz | theblazehen: Righto, I'll tell Kilos on freenode | 10:41 |
Kilos | hi theblazehen | 10:42 |
Maaz | Kilos: By the way, theblazehen on freenode told me "tell Kilos have a look at wug.za.net" 25 seconds ago | 10:42 |
theblazehen | lol | 10:42 |
Kilos | i dont think it reaches to here. ive looked at ptawug and they go past here to brits but will need to get the equipment | 10:42 |
theblazehen | yeah. Maybe look at 2nd hand. GTG | 10:43 |
Kilos | will do ty | 10:43 |
Kilos | need a hdd before i cant think of other stuff | 10:43 |
Private_User | afternoon all | 10:50 |
Private_User | Hi Kilos | 10:51 |
Private_User | Hi theblazehen | 10:51 |
Kilos | hi Private_User | 10:53 |
Private_User | my connectivity has been pathetic today, anybody else having issues? | 10:54 |
Kilos | ThatGraemeGuy, http://picpaste.com/Image0073-DaUWrZx5.jpg | 10:56 |
Kilos | Private_User, ping google all the time | 10:56 |
ThatGraemeGuy | lol | 10:56 |
ThatGraemeGuy | Kilos: i didn't realise you meant an actual real-world hammer | 10:57 |
ThatGraemeGuy | :P | 10:57 |
Private_User | eish and still an issue, 26 sec delay on IRC | 10:57 |
Kilos | then i can go do other stuff meantime | 10:57 |
Kilos | hahaha | 10:57 |
Private_User | Kilos: I sometimes try that but then ping can't even find host google | 10:57 |
Kilos | lemme find the commands | 10:58 |
Private_User | anybody else in here using CellC? | 10:58 |
Kilos | here are 2 courtesy of the pro | 10:58 |
Kilos | mtr -i2 -s0 -n 8.8.8.8 | 10:58 |
Kilos | time ping -i2 -s0 -c10 8.8.8.8 | 10:58 |
Kilos | i gotta go eat. wbb | 10:59 |
Private_User | thanks | 10:59 |
Kilos | oh you on win hey? | 10:59 |
Private_User | yeah on the laptop that desktop still hangs randomly | 11:00 |
Kilos | i will look for the script i have | 11:00 |
Kilos | you didnt say what ram man | 11:00 |
Kilos | wbb after lunch | 11:01 |
Private_User | ok cool in the meantime I will check | 11:01 |
Kilos | with luck i still have it. its called stay alive | 11:01 |
Kilos | haha | 11:01 |
Kilos | Private_User, http://slexy.org/view/s2zBLI5aXu | 11:37 |
Kilos | that was supposed to help win peeps stay alive | 11:38 |
Kilos | ive never used it as, imo win pcs are made for gaming at home not going online with | 11:39 |
Kilos | hehe | 11:39 |
Private_User | thanks Kilos, I also have the RAM info DDR 400MHz CL3.0 | 11:40 |
Private_User | thats whats written on one of them | 11:40 |
Kilos | lemme check what i have here i member a 333 wil check others | 11:41 |
Kilos | need to use magnifying glass to see that tiny stuff | 11:41 |
Private_User | ah on the other side its says DDR4 | 11:43 |
Kilos | i have 2 512m ddr2 and one has a dicey sticker on | 11:45 |
Kilos | oi | 11:45 |
Kilos | google your motherboards specs and see what ram it should have | 11:45 |
Private_User | but I think maybe I should as you suggested test power supply | 11:46 |
Kilos | oh havent you done that yuet | 11:46 |
Kilos | yet | 11:46 |
Kilos | slacker | 11:46 |
Private_User | lol | 11:46 |
Kilos | borrow one somewhere | 11:46 |
Private_User | nope not yet | 11:47 |
Kilos | did you try switching power cords to the drive?? | 11:47 |
Private_User | yeah I will need to do that was just a bit busy doing some other stuff | 11:47 |
Private_User | nope that too not yet | 11:48 |
Kilos | ai! | 11:48 |
Kilos | try that first , even swop withn the power cord from the cdrom/dvdrom | 11:48 |
Kilos | oh my | 11:49 |
Kilos | killed him | 11:49 |
Kilos | JabberwockyA19, where you been? | 11:53 |
JabberwockyA19 | hi Kilos, I've been very sick | 11:53 |
Kilos | aw, you better now? | 11:53 |
Kilos | flu?? | 11:55 |
JabberwockyA19 | I'm not 100% supposed to be at home today | 11:55 |
Kilos | look after yourself man | 11:56 |
JabberwockyA19 | some soft of infection, major headache and nose bleed | 11:56 |
JabberwockyA19 | had a light fever too | 11:57 |
Kilos | you been near malaria areas? | 11:57 |
Kilos | mind you then you woulda had hot and cold spells too | 11:57 |
JabberwockyA19 | no, just here between home and work in cape town | 11:57 |
Kilos | did you go to the doctor? | 11:58 |
bduk1 | Lekker naweeek vir almal | 12:25 |
ThatGraemeGuy | Kilos: i discovered you were right about TNT | 13:32 |
ThatGraemeGuy | it doesn't destroy all ores actually, but in general use it only drops 1/3 of the items | 13:32 |
ThatGraemeGuy | so in the 5x5x5 blast radius, which is 125 blocks, only about 41 are kept on average | 13:33 |
ThatGraemeGuy | and the long tnt chains i built make it worse, because i only space them apart by 1 block, there is overlap so i end up destroying the vast majority of everything :'( | 13:34 |
ThatGraemeGuy | maybe superfly would be willing to change the TNT mod so that it drops all items instead of destroying 2/3 of them | 13:34 |
ThatGraemeGuy | otherwise i'm done with TNT its too destructive | 13:35 |
Kilos | hahaha ThatGraemeGuy | 13:39 |
Kilos | back to pick again | 13:39 |
ThatGraemeGuy | indeed | 13:39 |
ThatGraemeGuy | i'm going to play with a local version and see, maybe its too cpu intensive to keep all items | 13:40 |
Kilos | im gonna keep going straight down till i get a nyan cat thing | 13:40 |
ThatGraemeGuy | otherwise for something that is supposed to be a mining aid, it's a bit dumb that it destroys most of the objects its mining | 13:40 |
ThatGraemeGuy | um, nyan cat can occur anywhere under -32 | 13:41 |
ThatGraemeGuy | going deeper doesn't make you more likely to find one | 13:41 |
Kilos | i need someone to explain to me nicely about this host thing. | 13:41 |
ThatGraemeGuy | it could be at -33 under your house :P | 13:41 |
Kilos | can one install server on a pc and host yourself or must you get an online host | 13:41 |
ThatGraemeGuy | you can host it yourself | 13:42 |
Kilos | oi dont tnt near my house . took too long to build | 13:42 |
ThatGraemeGuy | but part of the fun is that multiple people work on the same world | 13:42 |
Kilos | ya but then where do i get a link from | 13:42 |
ThatGraemeGuy | a link for what? | 13:42 |
* ThatGraemeGuy confused | 13:43 | |
Kilos | i mean host yourself that others can use like the flys | 13:43 |
ThatGraemeGuy | you would need a permanent internet connection for that, its not really practical to host it from home | 13:43 |
Kilos | an internet addy | 13:43 |
Kilos | where do you get the internet addy from then | 13:44 |
Kilos | like fly.info can that same kinda addy be used for a home server say | 13:45 |
Kilos | someone with uncapped adsl or something | 13:45 |
ThatGraemeGuy | register a domain, set up dynamic dns somewhere | 13:45 |
Kilos | with who do you register it | 13:45 |
Kilos | and you gotta pay them to register? | 13:46 |
ThatGraemeGuy | with a domain registrar and yet, you pay for it | 13:47 |
ThatGraemeGuy | there's an annual fee. and then you need someone to host your DNS records which you can also pay for or find a good free one | 13:47 |
Kilos | oi | 13:48 |
drussell | Kilos: hey, you manage to sort out your issues with special characters? | 13:49 |
ThatGraemeGuy | if you have a static IP and you host the server you can just give people the ip and not worry about setting up a name | 13:49 |
Kilos | nope drussell but i got a kb with that altgraph key | 13:50 |
Kilos | now that sounds better ThatGraemeGuy | 13:51 |
drussell | Kilos: and did that work? | 13:51 |
Kilos | like ssh to a server with gui | 13:51 |
Kilos | drussell, nope | 13:51 |
Private_User | damn get ping replies from google of 3568ms | 13:51 |
Kilos | i gave up for now | 13:51 |
Private_User | this connection at the moments is crap | 13:51 |
drussell | Kilos: bah, that's just really strange! | 13:51 |
ThatGraemeGuy | Kilos: i think you've lost yourself in terminology | 13:52 |
Kilos | Private_User, leave it running it speeds up | 13:52 |
Kilos | well ThatGraemeGuy ive only used ssh to my other pc when i had server installed and to mages server | 13:52 |
Kilos | but cli | 13:52 |
Kilos | we need to be able to do that with gui | 13:53 |
ThatGraemeGuy | you can host a minetest server on any pc | 13:53 |
Kilos | ok ThatGraemeGuy lets say you do it there, how would i then connect if you dont have a registered link | 13:54 |
ThatGraemeGuy | if i don't have a DNS name i just tell you the IP address | 13:55 |
Kilos | and my minetest witll find it? | 13:55 |
Kilos | will | 13:56 |
ThatGraemeGuy | what do you mean by "find it" | 13:56 |
ThatGraemeGuy | you must tell minetest the server address | 13:56 |
Kilos | like we entered the flys addy in minetest will it find just an ip addy? | 13:56 |
ThatGraemeGuy | address can be either a name or ip | 13:57 |
ThatGraemeGuy | it doesn't find anything, you must enter it | 13:57 |
Kilos | sjoe | 13:57 |
Kilos | i entered it here ya but it still had to go find the uk server | 13:59 |
ThatGraemeGuy | sorry man i have no clue what you're on about now | 13:59 |
ThatGraemeGuy | maybe send me a screenshot | 13:59 |
Kilos | hahaha | 13:59 |
Kilos | nee man | 14:00 |
Kilos | in minetest we enter flys info right? | 14:00 |
Kilos | now with an unregistered pc with an ip addy how will this minetest know where it is | 14:01 |
ThatGraemeGuy | how does it know where his is? you enter it | 14:01 |
ThatGraemeGuy | minetest is just an app it doesn't "know" anything | 14:01 |
Kilos | lemme try again | 14:02 |
Kilos | if you go looking for a house you have the area and street name | 14:02 |
ThatGraemeGuy | yes | 14:02 |
Kilos | now how do you find a pandokkie in the veld with no street name or number | 14:03 |
ThatGraemeGuy | mmmmm | 14:03 |
ThatGraemeGuy | ok here's where your analogy isn't working out | 14:03 |
ThatGraemeGuy | in terms of the internet, the name "minetest.snyman.info" isn't an address in the way you think | 14:04 |
ThatGraemeGuy | lets say like this | 14:04 |
ThatGraemeGuy | the address of the server is its IP address | 14:04 |
ThatGraemeGuy | and all the bits of equipment that make the internet work know exactly how to find that address | 14:04 |
ThatGraemeGuy | the DNS name, like "minetest.snyman.info" is for us stupid humans, because its easier to remember than a bunch of numbers | 14:05 |
Kilos | oi | 14:05 |
ThatGraemeGuy | lets say you have a friend who lives at 134 voortrekker straat | 14:05 |
Kilos | ok | 14:06 |
ThatGraemeGuy | if you're going there, you don't say "I am going to 134 voortrekker straat" | 14:06 |
ThatGraemeGuy | you would say "I am going to Jan's house" | 14:06 |
Kilos | ya | 14:06 |
ThatGraemeGuy | "Jan's house" is like the DNS name, and "134 voortrekker street" is like the IP address | 14:06 |
Kilos | ah | 14:06 |
ThatGraemeGuy | DNS is a big system that keeps track of what friendly names each address has | 14:07 |
ThatGraemeGuy | so if you take an IP address 138.17.44.8, there is (generally) only 1 place for that to be | 14:07 |
ThatGraemeGuy | but in DNS you might call it by several friendly names | 14:08 |
ThatGraemeGuy | mostly the name doesn't matter to your PC and all the bits of equipment that move data around, they just care about the IP address | 14:08 |
Kilos | ok | 14:09 |
Kilos | but now | 14:09 |
Kilos | how can it find an ip if its not registered | 14:09 |
ThatGraemeGuy | that's complicated, but like i said, you don't need a name | 14:09 |
ThatGraemeGuy | the IP address is the address, and the routers of the internet have ways of figuring out where they are | 14:10 |
ThatGraemeGuy | assuming by "registered" you meant "has a DNS name" | 14:10 |
Kilos | ya isnt there some big register somewhere with all working ip's on it | 14:11 |
ThatGraemeGuy | not really, each router shares information with its neighbours | 14:12 |
Kilos | oi | 14:12 |
ThatGraemeGuy | that part is really really complicated though | 14:12 |
Kilos | sjoe this is bad enough | 14:13 |
Kilos | much easier being a mechanic | 14:13 |
ThatGraemeGuy | its only easier because you know it ;) | 14:13 |
Kilos | spanner sizes are stamped on them | 14:14 |
Trixar_za | Depends on if it's new or classic cars | 14:14 |
ThatGraemeGuy | the way you feel about the inner workings of the internet is how i feel about my car | 14:14 |
Kilos | oi | 14:14 |
Trixar_za | If it's new, then any idiot can work on it. If it's classic, then it requires an expert touch | 14:14 |
ThatGraemeGuy | i kinda have an idea how it works, but i don't really want to care, i just want to turn keys, push buttons and go | 14:14 |
Kilos | lol | 14:14 |
Kilos | Maaz, seen superfly | 14:15 |
Maaz | Kilos: superfly was last seen 1 day, 18 hours, 55 minutes and 59 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2014-06-11 12:19:51 PDT], and has been online on freenode since 2014-06-11 13:40:11 PDT | 14:15 |
Kilos | i wonder where he is | 14:16 |
Trixar_za | I'm going to try Flare RPG now | 14:17 |
Trixar_za | It's an FLOSS Roleplaying game in the vain of Diablo | 14:17 |
Kilos | ? | 14:17 |
Kilos | aha | 14:18 |
ThatGraemeGuy | http://i.imgur.com/ELm91jo.png | 14:20 |
ThatGraemeGuy | Kilos: do you know what that grey bit on the map is? | 14:20 |
Kilos | lemme go look | 14:21 |
ThatGraemeGuy | its a darker grey than the stone parts of the map, not sure what it represents | 14:21 |
Kilos | have you been there? | 14:22 |
ThatGraemeGuy | for reference, the top left corner is my house, the grey square diagonally down from that is superfly's place, and just to the right of that is your place | 14:22 |
ThatGraemeGuy | no, i just noticed it earlier | 14:22 |
ThatGraemeGuy | but i' | 14:22 |
ThatGraemeGuy | but i'm at -2500 didn't feel like going up | 14:22 |
Kilos | hahaha get a hammer then you can go make coffee while surfacing | 14:23 |
ThatGraemeGuy | i can teleport home, that's easy, its the trip back down that sucks | 14:24 |
Kilos | man how do you teleport | 14:24 |
Kilos | do you use co-ords | 14:24 |
ThatGraemeGuy | actually now that you dug it as 1 long shaft i can actually just drop down the ladder. i realised that it stops every now and then when i hit the bottom of however far my pc has rendered the map | 14:24 |
ThatGraemeGuy | drop down the shaft i mean | 14:25 |
Kilos | lol | 14:25 |
ThatGraemeGuy | you need to use the set home button and then the go home button | 14:25 |
ThatGraemeGuy | yeah i just have to remember to grab the ladder around -2500 | 14:26 |
Kilos | you better be ready to grab ladder before it hits bottom or you gonna splat really flat | 14:26 |
ThatGraemeGuy | going to try that later | 14:26 |
Kilos | i still dunno how you teleport | 14:27 |
Kilos | where you find the mod | 14:27 |
Kilos | or plugin | 14:27 |
Kilos | ha found it | 14:34 |
ThatGraemeGuy | ya | 14:37 |
ThatGraemeGuy | sorry, didn't see | 14:38 |
Kilos | hmm... cant craft plastic sheet | 14:50 |
Kilos | no option of 1,10 or all | 14:51 |
Kilos | aha | 15:06 |
Kilos | drussell, i, trying ther cli way with this link | 15:55 |
Kilos | http://askubuntu.com/questions/379633/make-super-window-as-compose-key-in-ubuntub?rq=1 | 15:55 |
Kilos | but last command im doing something wrong | 15:56 |
Kilos | dconf write /org/gnome/desktop/input-sources/xkb-options ['compose:lwin'] | 15:56 |
Kilos | ive tried without the single quotes and square brackets | 15:57 |
Kilos | error: 1-8:unknown keyword | 15:59 |
Kilos | wbb | 16:07 |
Kilos | inetpro, i need you and your store of knowledge please | 16:26 |
Kilos | bushtech, you been very quiet | 17:30 |
Kilos | ohi superfly | 17:31 |
Kilos | wb | 17:31 |
Kilos | Maaz, tell ThatGraemeGuy this might be what you are looking for | 17:49 |
Maaz | Kilos: Got it, I'll tell ThatGraemeGuy on freenode | 17:49 |
Kilos | https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4877 | 17:49 |
Kilos | oi | 17:49 |
Kilos | Maaz, tell ThatGraemeGuy this might be what you are looking for Maaz, tell ThatGraemeGuy this might be what you are looking for | 17:50 |
Maaz | Kilos: Sure, I'll tell ThatGraemeGuy on freenode | 17:50 |
Kilos | oi | 17:50 |
Kilos | dammit | 17:50 |
superfly | hi Kilos | 17:59 |
superfly | hahahaha | 18:00 |
Kilos | what? | 18:00 |
ThatGraemeGuy | hellos | 18:23 |
Maaz | ThatGraemeGuy: ThatGraemeGuy: By the way, you have a pile of memos waiting for you, too many to read out in public. PM me | 18:23 |
Kilos | haha | 18:24 |
Kilos | popular guy | 18:24 |
ThatGraemeGuy | seems that way :P | 18:24 |
ThatGraemeGuy | Kilos: thanks, could be interesting | 18:25 |
ThatGraemeGuy | i want to fiddle with the tnt mod a bit | 18:25 |
Kilos | how do you set the teleport thing | 18:26 |
ThatGraemeGuy | eh? | 18:26 |
Kilos | right click and it asks for channel | 18:26 |
ThatGraemeGuy | nope, still no idea what you talking about | 18:27 |
Kilos | teleport in the game | 18:27 |
Kilos | you said you can only port home | 18:27 |
ThatGraemeGuy | yes, it's added by the extended inventory screen mod | 18:28 |
ThatGraemeGuy | the /teleport command requires special permission | 18:28 |
Kilos | oh my | 18:28 |
Kilos | better i keep walking for now then | 18:29 |
ThatGraemeGuy | heh | 18:31 |
ThatGraemeGuy | this lua stuff seems quite straightforward, i think i should make lazy tnt, that puts all the exploded stuff in your inventory instead of having you pick it all up | 18:31 |
Kilos | i wanna try something and see if you see it on the map tomorrow | 18:31 |
Kilos | lol | 18:32 |
Kilos | eeeek i mined into lava and had to run | 18:35 |
ThatGraemeGuy | in the shaft? | 18:35 |
Kilos | the first one at my home | 18:35 |
ThatGraemeGuy | ah | 18:36 |
ThatGraemeGuy | ok that was fun | 18:54 |
Kilos | whT | 18:55 |
ThatGraemeGuy | turns out making TNT too powerful is not good | 18:55 |
Kilos | WHAT TOO | 18:55 |
Kilos | oi | 18:55 |
Kilos | i ran away from the lava | 18:55 |
Kilos | all i wanted was some obsidian | 18:56 |
Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 19:11 |
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