[05:33] More almal [05:45] hi bduk1 die_held bushtech and whoever else isnt frozen solid [05:48] Neeman kilos. Dis nie so erg nie. dis 'n heerlike volmaan Vrydag die 13de. [05:51] ai! [06:12] brrr! hi kilos, everybody [06:12] haha cold hey [06:48] ohi ThatGraemeGuy [06:48] good morning [06:49] hi there inetpro [06:49] hey drussell what are you okes doing to me [06:49] how can you disable the compose key option [06:51] Kilos: 'sup dude, who's messing with you now? ;o) [06:51] haha [06:52] the compose key option should have an enable button if you wanna disable it by default [06:53] http://askubuntu.com/questions/452705/how-to-configure-compose-key-in-14-04 [06:53] i dont see the things in dconf that they do [06:54] input-sources isnt there [06:55] Kilos: looking... [06:57] the dev guys must make unity more user friendly for normal peeps not make things more difficult [06:57] Kilos: just so I'm clear, compose key works out of the box for you yes? but there's no way to disable it, correct? [06:58] nosir it doesnt work [06:58] ive tried left and right super and left and right alt [06:58] Kilos: that's fscked, it does here, definitely and I've not changed anything from a default install [06:58] ã [06:58] oh my [06:59] Kilos: so for me it's hold down ã [06:59] lol [06:59] where is that a thing [06:59] Kilos: so for me it's hold down the left shift key, tap the right AltGR key and then use the compose sequence I want, i.e. ~ a = ã [07:00] i use the degrees sign lots but cant get it here [07:00] oi this kbd aint got the altgr thing [07:00] Kilos: what's the usual combination for that [07:01] you hold the compose key and hit o twice [07:01] Kilos: (degrees I mean) [07:01] ° [07:01] there you go [07:01] hmm, yeah [07:01] Kilos: so try this exact combination.... [07:02] Kilos: left or right shift, hold it down [07:02] Kilos: tap and release right Alt [07:02] OO [07:02] Kilos: then do the oo [07:02] OO [07:02] hmm sorry, when I say tap and release right alt, release the shift too [07:02] ° [07:03] ai! [07:05] Kilos: hold down shift, tap and release right alt key, release shift, type oo .... should get you ° [07:05] oo [07:05] Kilos: that is REALLY strange [07:06] Kilos: do me a favour, try switching to UK or US keymap just briefly, see if it's a keymap problem [07:06] i am using us i think lemme look [07:07] eish where do i find that [07:08] my settings doesnt show input devices [07:09] personal hardware and system options [07:09] system settings, keyboard, typing tab, link at the bottom that says text entry [07:10] input sources is there [07:10] ya english us [07:11] then if you go keyboard setting bottom right it shows compose key disabled [07:12] mornings [07:16] Kilos: yeah, same here but it still worked [07:17] Kilos: ok try this instead.... [07:19] Kilos: on that window where it says disabled for the compose key hold down the left mouse button where it says disabled, and then select Right Alt [07:19] Kilos: then just tap right alt and oo [07:19] Kilos: ° [07:20] hehe lemme try that [07:22] nope [07:22] Kilos: that is just whack [07:23] lemme find a keyboard with altgr thing [07:23] Kilos: ok [07:23] np drussell ty for trying [07:23] Kilos: also check the .xsession-errors file in your homedir to see if there are any errors there [07:24] the pro helped me before, and i member now that i had to put the yucky sun keyboard in then set something and then go back to the lekker kb [07:26] wbb [10:41] Anyone know the rough area where Kilos lives? [10:41] He might wanna look at wug.za.net [10:41] Maaz: tell Kilos have a look at wug.za.net [10:41] theblazehen: Righto, I'll tell Kilos on freenode [10:42] hi theblazehen [10:42] Kilos: By the way, theblazehen on freenode told me "tell Kilos have a look at wug.za.net" 25 seconds ago [10:42] lol [10:42] i dont think it reaches to here. ive looked at ptawug and they go past here to brits but will need to get the equipment [10:43] yeah. Maybe look at 2nd hand. GTG [10:43] will do ty [10:43] need a hdd before i cant think of other stuff [10:50] afternoon all [10:51] Hi Kilos [10:51] Hi theblazehen [10:53] hi Private_User [10:54] my connectivity has been pathetic today, anybody else having issues? [10:56] ThatGraemeGuy, http://picpaste.com/Image0073-DaUWrZx5.jpg [10:56] Private_User, ping google all the time [10:56] lol [10:57] Kilos: i didn't realise you meant an actual real-world hammer [10:57] :P [10:57] eish and still an issue, 26 sec delay on IRC [10:57] then i can go do other stuff meantime [10:57] hahaha [10:57] Kilos: I sometimes try that but then ping can't even find host google [10:58] lemme find the commands [10:58] anybody else in here using CellC? [10:58] here are 2 courtesy of the pro [10:58] mtr -i2 -s0 -n 8.8.8.8 [10:58] time ping -i2 -s0 -c10 8.8.8.8 [10:59] i gotta go eat. wbb [10:59] thanks [10:59] oh you on win hey? [11:00] yeah on the laptop that desktop still hangs randomly [11:00] i will look for the script i have [11:00] you didnt say what ram man [11:01] wbb after lunch [11:01] ok cool in the meantime I will check [11:01] with luck i still have it. its called stay alive [11:01] haha [11:37] Private_User, http://slexy.org/view/s2zBLI5aXu [11:38] that was supposed to help win peeps stay alive [11:39] ive never used it as, imo win pcs are made for gaming at home not going online with [11:39] hehe [11:40] thanks Kilos, I also have the RAM info DDR 400MHz CL3.0 [11:40] thats whats written on one of them [11:41] lemme check what i have here i member a 333 wil check others [11:41] need to use magnifying glass to see that tiny stuff [11:43] ah on the other side its says DDR4 [11:45] i have 2 512m ddr2 and one has a dicey sticker on [11:45] oi [11:45] google your motherboards specs and see what ram it should have [11:46] but I think maybe I should as you suggested test power supply [11:46] oh havent you done that yuet [11:46] yet [11:46] slacker [11:46] lol [11:46] borrow one somewhere [11:47] nope not yet [11:47] did you try switching power cords to the drive?? [11:47] yeah I will need to do that was just a bit busy doing some other stuff [11:48] nope that too not yet [11:48] ai! [11:48] try that first , even swop withn the power cord from the cdrom/dvdrom [11:49] oh my [11:49] killed him [11:53] JabberwockyA19, where you been? [11:53] hi Kilos, I've been very sick [11:53] aw, you better now? [11:55] flu?? [11:55] I'm not 100% supposed to be at home today [11:56] look after yourself man [11:56] some soft of infection, major headache and nose bleed [11:57] had a light fever too [11:57] you been near malaria areas? [11:57] mind you then you woulda had hot and cold spells too [11:57] no, just here between home and work in cape town [11:58] did you go to the doctor? [12:25] Lekker naweeek vir almal [13:32] Kilos: i discovered you were right about TNT [13:32] it doesn't destroy all ores actually, but in general use it only drops 1/3 of the items [13:33] so in the 5x5x5 blast radius, which is 125 blocks, only about 41 are kept on average [13:34] and the long tnt chains i built make it worse, because i only space them apart by 1 block, there is overlap so i end up destroying the vast majority of everything :'( [13:34] maybe superfly would be willing to change the TNT mod so that it drops all items instead of destroying 2/3 of them [13:35] otherwise i'm done with TNT its too destructive [13:39] hahaha ThatGraemeGuy [13:39] back to pick again [13:39] indeed [13:40] i'm going to play with a local version and see, maybe its too cpu intensive to keep all items [13:40] im gonna keep going straight down till i get a nyan cat thing [13:40] otherwise for something that is supposed to be a mining aid, it's a bit dumb that it destroys most of the objects its mining [13:41] um, nyan cat can occur anywhere under -32 [13:41] going deeper doesn't make you more likely to find one [13:41] i need someone to explain to me nicely about this host thing. [13:41] it could be at -33 under your house :P [13:41] can one install server on a pc and host yourself or must you get an online host [13:42] you can host it yourself [13:42] oi dont tnt near my house . took too long to build [13:42] but part of the fun is that multiple people work on the same world [13:42] ya but then where do i get a link from [13:42] a link for what? [13:43] * ThatGraemeGuy confused [13:43] i mean host yourself that others can use like the flys [13:43] you would need a permanent internet connection for that, its not really practical to host it from home [13:43] an internet addy [13:44] where do you get the internet addy from then [13:45] like fly.info can that same kinda addy be used for a home server say [13:45] someone with uncapped adsl or something [13:45] register a domain, set up dynamic dns somewhere [13:45] with who do you register it [13:46] and you gotta pay them to register? [13:47] with a domain registrar and yet, you pay for it [13:47] there's an annual fee. and then you need someone to host your DNS records which you can also pay for or find a good free one [13:48] oi [13:49] Kilos: hey, you manage to sort out your issues with special characters? [13:49] if you have a static IP and you host the server you can just give people the ip and not worry about setting up a name [13:50] nope drussell but i got a kb with that altgraph key [13:51] now that sounds better ThatGraemeGuy [13:51] Kilos: and did that work? [13:51] like ssh to a server with gui [13:51] drussell, nope [13:51] damn get ping replies from google of 3568ms [13:51] i gave up for now [13:51] this connection at the moments is crap [13:51] Kilos: bah, that's just really strange! [13:52] Kilos: i think you've lost yourself in terminology [13:52] Private_User, leave it running it speeds up [13:52] well ThatGraemeGuy ive only used ssh to my other pc when i had server installed and to mages server [13:52] but cli [13:53] we need to be able to do that with gui [13:53] you can host a minetest server on any pc [13:54] ok ThatGraemeGuy lets say you do it there, how would i then connect if you dont have a registered link [13:55] if i don't have a DNS name i just tell you the IP address [13:55] and my minetest witll find it? [13:56] will [13:56] what do you mean by "find it" [13:56] you must tell minetest the server address [13:56] like we entered the flys addy in minetest will it find just an ip addy? [13:57] address can be either a name or ip [13:57] it doesn't find anything, you must enter it [13:57] sjoe [13:59] i entered it here ya but it still had to go find the uk server [13:59] sorry man i have no clue what you're on about now [13:59] maybe send me a screenshot [13:59] hahaha [14:00] nee man [14:00] in minetest we enter flys info right? [14:01] now with an unregistered pc with an ip addy how will this minetest know where it is [14:01] how does it know where his is? you enter it [14:01] minetest is just an app it doesn't "know" anything [14:02] lemme try again [14:02] if you go looking for a house you have the area and street name [14:02] yes [14:03] now how do you find a pandokkie in the veld with no street name or number [14:03] mmmmm [14:03] ok here's where your analogy isn't working out [14:04] in terms of the internet, the name "minetest.snyman.info" isn't an address in the way you think [14:04] lets say like this [14:04] the address of the server is its IP address [14:04] and all the bits of equipment that make the internet work know exactly how to find that address [14:05] the DNS name, like "minetest.snyman.info" is for us stupid humans, because its easier to remember than a bunch of numbers [14:05] oi [14:05] lets say you have a friend who lives at 134 voortrekker straat [14:06] ok [14:06] if you're going there, you don't say "I am going to 134 voortrekker straat" [14:06] you would say "I am going to Jan's house" [14:06] ya [14:06] "Jan's house" is like the DNS name, and "134 voortrekker street" is like the IP address [14:06] ah [14:07] DNS is a big system that keeps track of what friendly names each address has [14:07] so if you take an IP address 138.17.44.8, there is (generally) only 1 place for that to be [14:08] but in DNS you might call it by several friendly names [14:08] mostly the name doesn't matter to your PC and all the bits of equipment that move data around, they just care about the IP address [14:09] ok [14:09] but now [14:09] how can it find an ip if its not registered [14:09] that's complicated, but like i said, you don't need a name [14:10] the IP address is the address, and the routers of the internet have ways of figuring out where they are [14:10] assuming by "registered" you meant "has a DNS name" [14:11] ya isnt there some big register somewhere with all working ip's on it [14:12] not really, each router shares information with its neighbours [14:12] oi [14:12] that part is really really complicated though [14:13] sjoe this is bad enough [14:13] much easier being a mechanic [14:13] its only easier because you know it ;) [14:14] spanner sizes are stamped on them [14:14] Depends on if it's new or classic cars [14:14] the way you feel about the inner workings of the internet is how i feel about my car [14:14] oi [14:14] If it's new, then any idiot can work on it. If it's classic, then it requires an expert touch [14:14] i kinda have an idea how it works, but i don't really want to care, i just want to turn keys, push buttons and go [14:14] lol [14:15] Maaz, seen superfly [14:15] Kilos: superfly was last seen 1 day, 18 hours, 55 minutes and 59 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2014-06-11 12:19:51 PDT], and has been online on freenode since 2014-06-11 13:40:11 PDT [14:16] i wonder where he is [14:17] I'm going to try Flare RPG now [14:17] It's an FLOSS Roleplaying game in the vain of Diablo [14:17] ? [14:18] aha [14:20] http://i.imgur.com/ELm91jo.png [14:20] Kilos: do you know what that grey bit on the map is? [14:21] lemme go look [14:21] its a darker grey than the stone parts of the map, not sure what it represents [14:22] have you been there? [14:22] for reference, the top left corner is my house, the grey square diagonally down from that is superfly's place, and just to the right of that is your place [14:22] no, i just noticed it earlier [14:22] but i' [14:22] but i'm at -2500 didn't feel like going up [14:23] hahaha get a hammer then you can go make coffee while surfacing [14:24] i can teleport home, that's easy, its the trip back down that sucks [14:24] man how do you teleport [14:24] do you use co-ords [14:24] actually now that you dug it as 1 long shaft i can actually just drop down the ladder. i realised that it stops every now and then when i hit the bottom of however far my pc has rendered the map [14:25] drop down the shaft i mean [14:25] lol [14:25] you need to use the set home button and then the go home button [14:26] yeah i just have to remember to grab the ladder around -2500 [14:26] you better be ready to grab ladder before it hits bottom or you gonna splat really flat [14:26] going to try that later [14:27] i still dunno how you teleport [14:27] where you find the mod [14:27] or plugin [14:34] ha found it [14:37] ya [14:38] sorry, didn't see [14:50] hmm... cant craft plastic sheet [14:51] no option of 1,10 or all [15:06] aha [15:55] drussell, i, trying ther cli way with this link [15:55] http://askubuntu.com/questions/379633/make-super-window-as-compose-key-in-ubuntub?rq=1 [15:56] but last command im doing something wrong [15:56] dconf write /org/gnome/desktop/input-sources/xkb-options ['compose:lwin'] [15:57] ive tried without the single quotes and square brackets [15:59] error: 1-8:unknown keyword [16:07] wbb [16:26] inetpro, i need you and your store of knowledge please [17:30] bushtech, you been very quiet [17:31] ohi superfly [17:31] wb [17:49] Maaz, tell ThatGraemeGuy this might be what you are looking for [17:49] Kilos: Got it, I'll tell ThatGraemeGuy on freenode [17:49] https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4877 [17:49] oi [17:50] Maaz, tell ThatGraemeGuy this might be what you are looking for Maaz, tell ThatGraemeGuy this might be what you are looking for [17:50] Kilos: Sure, I'll tell ThatGraemeGuy on freenode [17:50] oi [17:50] dammit [17:59] hi Kilos [18:00] hahahaha [18:00] what? [18:23] hellos [18:23] ThatGraemeGuy: ThatGraemeGuy: By the way, you have a pile of memos waiting for you, too many to read out in public. PM me [18:24] haha [18:24] popular guy [18:24] seems that way :P [18:25] Kilos: thanks, could be interesting [18:25] i want to fiddle with the tnt mod a bit [18:26] how do you set the teleport thing [18:26] eh? [18:26] right click and it asks for channel [18:27] nope, still no idea what you talking about [18:27] teleport in the game [18:27] you said you can only port home [18:28] yes, it's added by the extended inventory screen mod [18:28] the /teleport command requires special permission [18:28] oh my [18:29] better i keep walking for now then [18:31] heh [18:31] this lua stuff seems quite straightforward, i think i should make lazy tnt, that puts all the exploded stuff in your inventory instead of having you pick it all up [18:31] i wanna try something and see if you see it on the map tomorrow [18:32] lol [18:35] eeeek i mined into lava and had to run [18:35] in the shaft? [18:35] the first one at my home [18:36] ah [18:54] ok that was fun [18:55] whT [18:55] turns out making TNT too powerful is not good [18:55] WHAT TOO [18:55] oi [18:55] i ran away from the lava [18:56] all i wanted was some obsidian [19:11] night all. sleep tight