[00:00] <McMido> http://www.image-share.com/ipng-2587-170.html
[00:00] <skinux> I was using Ubuntu 14.04 Live
[00:00] <rorre> it seems to be blocked, i tried some plugins like ant downloader
[00:00] <McMido> oh wrong :D
[00:01] <rorre> So, whats best? youtube-dl or clipconverter?
[00:01] <skinux> I really want to merge Ubuntu's 30G with 60G (after creating 60G Linux partition), but I can't seem to create 60G partition right after Ubuntu's partition.
[00:01] <Beldar> skinux, Has to be unmounted, and heps if the partitions are in numerical order left to right looking at it meaning beginning to end. do an image of gparted and imagebin.
[00:01] <Teltariat> rorre: go try them out and see
[00:01] <daftykins> skinux: can't you resize rather than create another?
[00:01] <rorre> hehe. thanks i'll do it now
[00:01] <Beldar> imagebin it*
[00:02] <skinux> How can I take a screenshot of only an application instead of whole desktop?
[00:02] <Beldar> skinux, the screenshot app
[00:04] <daftykins> alt+print-screen
[00:04] <zaishen> in windows i used snagit
[00:05] <skinux> Here's the image: http://imagebin.ca/v/1PinLIYz7uDS
[00:05] <daftykins> zaishen: lol, not very helpful to suggest Windows programs in here.
[00:05] <zaishen> haha
[00:06] <rorre> snagit is for what?
[00:06] <zaishen> screenshots
[00:15] <nico103> Ubuntu 11.10 is codename "dreamy", right?
[00:15] <compdoc> Ubuntu 11.10	Oneiric Ocelot
[00:16] <nico103> thx
[00:17] <nico103> so s/us.archive/old-releases/g in /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:17] <compdoc> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[00:18] <nico103> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades#Requirements
[00:18] <nico103> since this is EOL...
[00:19] <nico103> but apt-get isn't finding anything
[00:19] <blinking> Anybody have experience running Ubuntu through Hyper-V? I'm having some performance issues.
[00:21] <nico103> ah, needed apt-get update
[00:21] <akts> ola
[00:22] <zaishen> why if there is a task active, u cant uninstall or install new things on the system?
[00:23] <daftykins> blinking: in what way? the 3D requirements of the Unity desktop bogging it down a bit much?
[00:23] <daftykins> zaishen: because only one thing must be working with dpkg at once in order to prevent breakage
[00:24] <zaishen> i hope u guys dev it in the futures to fix this
[00:25] <Jordan_U> nico103: What is your end goal? Why are you not only using, but *installing* an End Of Life version?
[00:25] <daftykins> zaishen: people here are volunteers, not necessarily developers. but even still, it's not a problem to only be able to use one package management utility at once.
[00:26] <daftykins> zaishen: can you explain your usage style that you feel somehow it's a problem?
[00:26] <nico103> Jordan_U: to build release executables that work on older releases
[00:26] <zaishen> binary means 2, or duo core, linux should work like a reactor with this, for example if u want to install 10 programs at once, u should me able to do that
[00:28] <nico103> Jordan_U: otherwise, yeah, I've no interest in older, EOLed releases
[00:28] <daftykins> zaishen: yeah, your statement doesn't make any sense.
[00:29] <daftykins> zaishen: and sure you can install 10 at once... sudo apt-get install <package1> ... <package10>
[00:29] <daftykins> works for me.
[00:29] <daftykins> works for everyone else using debian and debian derivatives
[00:29] <Jordan_U> nico103: 1: Why? 2: That is something much better accomplished with a debootstrap chroot than a full install.
[00:30] <blinking> daftykins: yea exactly.
[00:31] <nico103> Jordan_U: because I built executables on 14.04 and users can't run them
[00:31] <nico103> because it links with too new a glibc
[00:31] <nico103> and my users are on older Linux boxes
[00:31] <nico103> and I can't get them to bother to build
[00:31] <daftykins> blinking: must you absolutely use ubuntu with unity in this/these VM(s)?
[00:31] <nico103> and so on and so forth
[00:31] <nico103> I mean, what do other developers do?!
[00:31] <daftykins> blinking: could you not for example, use a lighter weight desktop environment?
[00:32] <daftykins> nico103: ship an integrated one, maybe
[00:32] <nico103> daftykins: what's that mean?  statically linked?
[00:32] <daftykins> yeah guess so
[00:32] <daftykins> but i'm no dev so don't trust what i say
[00:32] <nico103> ok, how?  I can't get ld to do it
[00:33] <nico103> diet works, but its libm is lame
[00:33] <Guest27297> hey folks, my linux bootloader skills are a little rusty and I an issue with Grub2
[00:33] <daftykins> that would be beyond the scope of this channel i think
[00:33] <nico103> I was thinking of trying uclibc next
[00:33] <nico103> for now I'm trying an older Ubuntu
[00:33] <daftykins> Guest27297: please explain
[00:33] <Guest27297> I'm trying to configure grub2 to boot my windows 7 disk, but having no luck
[00:33] <blinking> daftykins: I suppose - what would you recommend? I would like to use X11 back into my other ubuntu desktop
[00:34] <Guest27297> the fuss is, the windows disk I want to boot from is the 6th disk (for whatever reason) so ubuntu thinks it's /dev/sdf
[00:34] <Guest27297> it's a gpt disk
[00:34] <Guest27297> but the disk I have ubuntu loaded on is an MBR disk
[00:34] <Guest27297> so firstly: Is there a cosmic incompatability I'm creating by having one disk as MBR and another ad GPT?
[00:35] <daftykins> blinking: depends what these VMs are for i guess
[00:35] <daftykins> Guest27297: i'm pretty sure there is
[00:35] <blinking> daftykins: I was going to play with application development and scripting.
[00:36] <Guest27297> ugh.  Guess I should just wipe it out and reinstall... again
[00:36] <daftykins> blinking: ah, but didn't want to mess up your desktop ubuntu install with attempts at setting up?
[00:36] <Guest27297> after I convert to GPT
[00:36] <daftykins> Guest27297: any particular reason why you installed win7 as EFI?
[00:36] <blinking> daftykins: Yes
[00:36] <Guest27297> Been a while since I did it, can't remember why I converted the disk to a gpt
[00:37] <Guest27297> both disks are SSDs
[00:37] <zaishen> anyone play decent games on ubuntu?
[00:37] <daftykins> blinking: gotcha. hmm, there might be some options to try and tone down some of the effects in unity, to make it run a little snappier. i understand there are two different types of hyper-V VM too, sort of compatibility levels? maybe one works better than the other?
[00:37] <Guest27297> and the one I've installed Ubuntu on had been having serious issues once upon a time because I had whole disk encryption installed on it, and it really didn't like being reformatted
[00:38] <daftykins> Guest27297: you should be using boot utilities that secure erase
[00:38] <Guest27297> so I went with old-schol simplicity and reformatted it as a dynamic disk
[00:38] <daftykins> Guest27297: if you did a standard full format you would've wasted a lot of the NAND's lifespan and slowed the drive down by writing to all LBAs
[00:38] <Guest27297> I did, twice,  then I had to get the util from OCZ that wiped it again
[00:38] <Guest27297> it was a total mess
[00:39] <blinking> daftykins: Yea I think the real problem is just unity, installing another desktop like GNOME or something might bypass that completely. I'll look at the compatibility levels also. Thanks for your help.
[00:39] <daftykins> blinking: mmm, xfce is cool, install xubuntu-desktop :)
[00:41] <Guest27297> So, should I convert the Ubuntu disk to GPT? or revert my Windows disk to Dynamic/MBR?
[00:41] <Guest27297> or does it matter?
[00:41] <Guest27297> just that both are the same
[00:42] <blinking> daftykins: i'll check it out. Cheers mate.
[00:42] <daftykins> well, you're mixing terminologies there
[00:42] <daftykins> Guest27297: you can go either way really, either standardise on one or the other
[00:43] <Guest27297> daftykins:  OK, so there's MBR and there's GPT
[00:43] <Guest27297> ok
[00:43] <daftykins> a disk being dynamic in windows has no relevance to this situation
[00:43] <Guest27297> Sorry, force of habit.   I converted the disk in Windows
[00:43] <daftykins> i keep everything basic, safer that way
[00:44] <Guest27297> and I don't know how I would convert an MBR to GPT in linux.  gparted I guess?  but I've never done it in linux
[00:44] <OoTLink> hey everyone, anyone use a USB tv tuner for atsc/ntsc/composite AV on ubuntu?
[00:44] <OoTLink> or have any good recommendations for a cheap one? :)
[00:45] <Guest27297> Thanks for the feedback Dafty.  I'll see if I can't fix the issue.   laters
[00:45] <daftykins> argh always whilst you're typing a response they leave
[00:45] <OoTLink> yeah that is rather painful
[00:48] <daftykins> OoTLink: hmm, this channel is more for support with the OS specifically... you'd be better off just researching online for such a thing... however i can tell you that the abomination that is USB shouldn't carry video :D
[00:49] <OoTLink> hehe
[00:49] <daftykins> so you'd be better off with some kind of PCI/PCI-E card in a desktop system
[00:49] <OoTLink> well there are some mPCIe cards that would work
[00:49] <OoTLink> it's not a laptop, but a fairly cheap all-in-one I got my bro
[00:50] <daftykins> ah.
[00:50] <daftykins> even more exotic
[01:07] <zaishen> anyone know a good program to limit download/upload bandwidth
[01:11] <blah88> so it seems, it kinda works when i remove the ubuntu.desktop from /usr/share/xsession - then my ~/.xsession script loads my different window manager, but then... 5 seconds later im at a login screen, when i have autologin setup - so im not doing it correctly i think.
[01:11] <SchrodingersScat> !info trickle | zaishen
[01:12] <blah88> how do i correctly setup .xsession that runs my own windowmanager/browser
[01:12] <blah88> im on ubuntu 14.04
[01:13] <zaishen> thanks
[01:14] <SchrodingersScat> !info wondershaper | zaishen, maybe some more, try throwing some phrases into apt-cache search
[01:16] <nico103> Jordan_U: so I do seem to be able to build 64-bit executables on Oneiric that work on 14.04, so I'm ecstatic
[01:16] <nico103> however, I can't build 32-bit executables on my 64-bit Oneiric image
[01:16] <nico103> what must I install for that?
[01:18] <nico103> or must I install a 32-bit Oneiric as well?
[01:23] <zaishen> Counter-Strike: Global Offensive is not available on your curent plataform, says steam xD
[01:24] <kostkon> zaishen, not yet available for linux/steam os
[01:29] <zaishen> ill install the normal cs
[01:29] <zaishen> im curious how runs
[01:33] <Bootez> Test
[01:34] <alief> Hey all. I am trying to install ubuntu on a Vaio Duo 11. However after choosing to boot to the live cd or to the installation procedure, I am greeted with the following: http://tinypic.com/r/33z8gad/8
[01:35] <alief> Sorry for not using a paste site, There is no way to copy/paste this message.
[01:35] <alief> Could anyone explain to me what is going on and how to fix this?
[01:35] <daftykins> alief: looking now
[01:36] <alief> daftykins: thanks
[01:37] <daftykins> alief: hmm, the most common things worth trying first are to md5 hash your download to ensure it wasn't corrupted... then remake your installation media (was it USB or DVD?)
[01:37] <daftykins> !md5 | alief
[01:37] <alief> daftykins: it was usb. I have tried downloading the file multiple times at this point.
[01:38] <alief> daftykins: i used the usb installer that was suggested by the ubuntu websit
[01:38] <daftykins> alief: ah i see... do you know if you're booting as UEFI or legacy?
[01:38] <alief> daftykins: legacy with secure boot turned off
[01:39] <daftykins> alief: is a default windows 8 install still on there?
[01:39] <alief> daftykins: yes
[01:39] <daftykins> alief: did you perform its' full shutdown method to ensure it's truly off?
[01:39] <alief> daftykins: to boot into it, I have to undo the modifications to bios though
[01:40] <alief> daftykins: yes. that is the only way I can actually boot into the usb
[01:40] <alief> daftykins: instead of using esc or a f key. The computer has a specialized button for choosing boot options
[01:40] <medberry> chiluk, thanks for the k-ppa. We're giving it a whirl.  Sorry I didn't notify sooner--in class all week
[01:41] <alief> daftykins: it requires that the computer be off
[01:41] <chiluk> medberry, done..
[01:41] <chiluk> the fix wasn't discovered till earlier today.
[01:41] <chiluk> medberry, so it's pretty hot off the presses.
[01:41] <medberry> yep, just saw the support ticket email as well (dated 4 min.s ago)
[01:41] <medberry> we'll get it in test now
[01:41] <chiluk> medberry, the fix is very small though, so I don't expect too many issues assuming it actually resolves the issue
[01:41] <medberry> nod.
[01:41] <daftykins> alief: i mean the way of fully shutting down windows 8
[01:42] <daftykins> alief: and yeah, i had a Lenovo like that the other day
[01:42] <alief> daftykins: i do not shut it down via the OS. No
[01:42] <alief> did not*
[01:43] <alief> daftykins: I do not think that would make a huge impact. Considering the boot options come from the bios and not the OS?
[01:45] <daftykins> alief: i wouldn't be surprised if it does have some relevance, as daft as it sounds i know
[01:45] <mojtaba> Hi, Do you know how can I import thunderbird contacts in to ubuntu contacts? (I want to be able to search my contacts via unity)
[01:45] <daftykins> alief: unfortunately i'm finding nothing online, my only suggestion would be a risky one - of attempting an update (if one is available) of the BIOS (EFI)
[01:46] <alief> daftykins: any other suggestions? These two are better than what I had before - nothing.
[01:47] <daftykins> alief: i suppose next up is the idea of adding extra kernel options, like...
[01:47] <daftykins> !nomodeset | alief This one:
[01:48] <daftykins> alief: i'm totally clutching at straws, but as you say they're worth a try :)
[01:48] <alief> daftykins: I believe you hit it on the nose with that one.
[01:48] <alief> truly
[01:48] <daftykins> oh?
[01:48] <alief> daftykins: I haven't attempted it yet, but I have had surprising results with editting grub.
[01:48] <alief> on other computers that is
[01:49] <alief> Sad I didn't think of that. haha
[01:49] <alief> Well, I will give all three of your suggestions a try. The second only after exhausting options 1 and 3
[01:50] <daftykins> wise decision
[01:50] <alief> thanks again daftykins
[01:50] <daftykins> alief: if you could enter the setup now, i'd be interested by a version #
[01:50] <daftykins> and also an exact model # to see if there even is an updated version
[01:50] <daftykins> i've just seen so many buggy EFIs
[01:50] <alief> daftykins: I can provide that. please hold
[01:50] <mojtaba> Hi, Do you know how can I import thunderbird contacts in to ubuntu contacts? (I want to be able to search my contacts via unity)
[01:51] <alief> daftykins: SVD11225CXB
[01:51] <xangua> mojtaba: you mean online accounts?
[01:51] <daftykins> alief: would this be a US model?
[01:52] <alief> daftykins: I believe so.
[01:52] <mojtaba> xangua: Yes, I am using owncloud to sync my contacts with my mobile and thunderbird. I just wonder if I could search phone numbers through unity.
[01:52] <mojtaba> unity lens*
[01:53] <xangua> mojtaba: since ubuntu online accounts is a fork of gnome online accounts I would imagine you need to use evolutions
[01:53] <mojtaba> xangua: thanks, let me check that
[01:53] <daftykins> alief: on the 12th of May R1064C7 was released
[01:54] <alief> daftykins: I bought this just a week ago.
[01:55] <alief> daftykins: not directly from sony though. Could be outdated I suppose.
[01:55] <alief> Very possible
[01:55] <daftykins> alief: it seems to have some fixes that are worth it for any OS potentially, but yeah - still risky
[01:55] <daftykins> http://esupport.sony.com/US/p/model-home.pl?mdl=SVD11225CXB&LOC=3#/downloadTab
[01:55] <daftykins> there for reference, assuming that works
[01:56] <alief> thanks a bunch.
[01:56] <alief> I have to go now. I am borrowing internet from a cafe. I'll return if I can to give you an update.
[01:57] <mojtaba> xangua: so if I install evolutions, then after importing the contacts I can search them through unity lens?
[01:57] <mojtaba> xangua: Are you using it? because at the moment I am using thunderbird.
[01:58] <blah88> so i have a .xsession startup script that i run chromium-browser, i need to run xdtool F11 AFTER the browser is run, so how can i loop to see if is running and run a xdotool script as well?
[02:15] <thedoctor> hi
[02:15] <daftykins> hello again.
[02:15] <lamrz> hello everyone, during transferring keyrings between different installations, which files should be kept in the keyring folder (in other words, with the absence/alteration of which file do the keyrings not open?)
[02:16] <thedoctor> should my computer auto connect to wifi upon boot ?
[02:16] <daftykins> if you're in range of your usual network, yes
[02:17] <thedoctor> because it had been but nopw it says im not. but i only see that error with updates.
[02:17] <thedoctor> we did change modems
[02:17] <daftykins> do you mean router?
[02:17] <thedoctor> modem
[02:18] <daftykins> oh ok, so cable service <-> modem <-> router with WiFi <-> computer ?
[02:18] <thedoctor> cable modem
[02:19] <thedoctor> i think its to do with ubuntu update manger
[02:19] <daftykins> yeah, separate devices wouldn't affect that
[02:19] <daftykins> that doesn't really make any sense, what makes you say that?
[02:19] <thedoctor> probaly not
[02:19] <mojtaba> xangua: ?
[02:19] <daftykins> your best plan would be to delete any networks you have setup, then reconnect and store i think
[02:19] <thedoctor> thats the only time i see that error/message.
[02:19] <thedoctor> ok
[02:20] <lamrz> it must be the 'user.keystore' or 'login.keyring' file, I guess. but I cant remember
[02:21] <thedoctor> maybe the network wizard then.
[02:22] <Bootez> timeout
[02:23] <thedoctor> water break
[02:23] <daftykins> thedoctor: what error?
[02:23] <daftykins> lol what network wizard?
[02:23] <daftykins> i think you might be making things up
[02:23] <thedoctor> whatever its called in ubuntu sorry
[02:24] <daftykins> what happens if you click the network manager icon and then the name of your network?
[02:24] <thedoctor> thats not the issue
[02:25] <daftykins> i know, but i asked a question
[02:27] <thedoctor> just the update manger thinks im offline.
[02:30] <thedoctor> but its easy to fix
[02:36] <dw1> is there any way to allow an account to login without a password (and without a key)?  i want to run a BBS that executes via login shell/telnet/xinetd
[02:37] <CPKGaming> hey guys
[02:37] <thedoctor> room is dead
[02:38] <thedoctor> try ask ubuntu
[02:38] <thedoctor> and or there busy
[02:38] <CPKGaming> idk how to change my room
[02:38] <dw1> this channel is never dead
[02:38] <dw1> what you talkin bout
[02:38] <CPKGaming> is anyone a coder
[02:38] <dw1> sure lots of people but this is for general ubuntu support not code
[02:39] <dw1> what language
[02:39] <CPKGaming> python im learning it but im not great
[02:39] <dw1> /j #python
[02:39] <dw1> ask there
[02:40] <thedoctor> askubuntu.com
[02:41] <blah88> someone help me out  i have a .xsession script that is run on boot that will open up browser, my goal is to only run it if its not running, but it loops and keeps opening over and over. - my code is here http://pastebin.com/Zm8Su1R5 - any help i would appreciate
[02:43] <thedoctor> askubuntu.com
[02:43] <Drew_27> Alright, um.. not sure if this is the right place for me to be, but I'm trying to set up dual boot with Windows 7 and 14.04, not sure why it isn't working
[02:43] <thedoctor> stupid silly user
[02:44] <daftykins> Drew_27: describe what you've got, what you did and what went wrong
[02:44] <Drew_27> Alright. So I started on the ubuntu website
[02:44] <Drew_27> Saw that it was free, looked simple, USB boot, I'd done that before
[02:44] <daftykins> ...preferably on as few lines as possible
[02:44] <thedoctor> this is windows chat sorry pal
[02:45] <daftykins> thedoctor: don't speak if you're going to talk rubbish please
[02:45] <Drew_27> Got everything donwloaded, tried installing right away... And failed. Went back, read up on it, made new partitions for SWAP and the installation, and even now it's not installed
[02:45] <Drew_27> I don't know what I'm doing wrong, I tried following directions.. right now I'm on the "try it now" / "demo" version I believe
[02:46] <thedoctor> askubuntu.com
[02:46] <thedoctor> rubbish.com
[02:46] <daftykins> thedoctor: why do you keep typing that?
[02:46] <daftykins> thedoctor: you realise you're just earning yourself a kick, right?
[02:46] <IdleOne> thedoctor: when you needed help did people make silly unhelpful comments to you?
[02:47] <daftykins> Drew_27: good stuff, can you open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit"
[02:47] <gassho> i had worse treatment than that when i needed help
[02:47] <daftykins> Drew_27: a terminal can be opened with ctrl + alt + T
[02:47] <gassho> in #windows
[02:48] <Drew_27> Thank you, I'll be trying that for you, one moment
[02:49] <Drew_27> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[02:49] <daftykins> Drew_27: hmm, is your live session not online?
[02:49] <Drew_27> What do you mean?
[02:49] <daftykins> oh you're probably typing from it now, aren't you :)
[02:50] <daftykins> ok try "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[02:50] <Drew_27> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[02:50] <Drew_27> dpkg: error processing package man-db (--unpack):
[02:50] <Drew_27>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[02:50] <Drew_27> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:50] <Drew_27>  man-db
[02:50] <Drew_27> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:50] <unopaste> Drew_27 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[02:51] <daftykins> yeah, don't paste lots to here :)
[02:51] <daftykins> Drew_27: you must have either a software updater open, or the ubuntu software centre... something similar.
[02:51] <daftykins> close any such open program and try again
[02:51] <dw1> well i got the password to be blank per http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/creating-a-passwordless-account-in-ubuntu/comment-page-1/ but i still have to press enter to enter the blank password.  damn.
[02:51] <gassho> do ops have the right to blindly bully whoever they please to?
[02:51] <dw1> (want to run a bbs via shell login)
[02:51] <gassho> opers or w hatever
[02:52] <daftykins> gassho: it'd be great if you could take the off topic conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[02:52] <gassho> i think we have enough of that
[02:52] <Jordan_U> Drew_27: Did you use automatic or manual partitioning when you installed the first time? How did installation "fail" specifically?
[02:52] <Drew_27> Manually partitioned..
[02:52] <Drew_27> I had to make space by "shrinking" for 2 "unused space" sections
[02:53] <Drew_27> 40 GB for Ubuntu, and a good deal for Swap too
[02:53] <Drew_27> I then set the mouse pointer to "/" and whatnot, um.. It's a little hazy, the full process but if you ask a detail I can recall
[02:53] <Drew_27> trying the paste thing again btw
[02:54] <Drew_27> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7636711/
[02:55] <Drew_27> Windows 7 still works perfectly, but Ubuntu just gave a bunch of error codes in the installer that .. I had to close to install the pastebin thing
[02:56] <dw1> ahh login -f ... woot
[02:57] <Drew_27> -f = forced?
[02:57] <Drew_27> @dw1
[02:57] <dw1> no authentication needed. want to run a bbs that executes via login shell
[02:57] <dw1> with xinetd
[02:57] <bootez> test
[02:57] <Drew_27> Was just curious
[02:58] <daftykins> Drew_27: your partitions suggest you've never installed ubuntu at all
[02:58] <daftykins> unless you kept undoing it afterward
[02:58] <Drew_27> I noticed that, which is strange. And I'm not undoing anything, unless you count closing the installer
[02:58] <daftykins> ah maybe it just never wrote some changes
[02:59] <Drew_27> Do you think this situation is Teamviewer worthy? Heh..
[02:59] <daftykins> ok, what you should do is go back to your Windows install and resize the second partition to make room for ubuntu
[02:59] <Drew_27> ._.
[02:59] <daftykins> only if you don't want to learn anything
[02:59] <daftykins> however it's 4am so i am about to leave
[02:59] <Drew_27> I can resize partitions from Ubuntu though
[02:59] <Drew_27> Can't I?
[02:59] <daftykins> yeah, but it's safer to do it natively
[02:59] <daftykins> i'm suggesting an alternate course of action
[02:59] <daftykins> your disk is pretty small by the way
[02:59] <Drew_27> I realize..
[03:00] <Drew_27> It's what I've got though, it's my laptop
[03:00] <lamrz> hello, I recovered my keyring file via photorec, and pasted it to keyrings folder, but the password isnt accepted when I try to unlock (the password is correct :))
[03:01] <Drew_27> daftykins, if you're still there, what size would you reccomend?
[03:01] <Drew_27> recommend*
[03:01] <daftykins> Drew_27: depends, are you just wanting to have a play around with ubuntu?
[03:02] <Drew_27> I was kinda thinking about using it, like possibly even playing games on it
[03:02] <Drew_27> It's quicker than Win-doze
[03:02] <daftykins> you've not got much disk space to be installing games
[03:03] <Drew_27> I wish you could see this, there's more space than that from what I saw
[03:03] <daftykins> Drew_27: well i saw your paste, 320GB disk.
[03:03] <iheartkode> Hi I installed fresh 14.04 been a few days and now it's sluggish so slow .
[03:04] <Drew_27> sec, opening GParted.. I wanna check that that's what I've got
[03:04] <daftykins> there's no way it was wrong.
[03:04] <iheartkode> Any reason Ubuntu would suddenly be so sluggish?
[03:04] <Drew_27> It didn't see the other partitions ._.
[03:04] <daftykins> iheartkode: how are you gauging this performance?
[03:04] <Drew_27> Which I did in Windows before jsyk
[03:05] <iheartkode> I use top
[03:05] <daftykins> but what are you noticing as slow?
[03:05] <iheartkode> apport was taking 98% cpu so I disabled it.. but I don't see much as taking mem or cpu
[03:05] <daftykins> Drew_27: upload a pic of gparted maybe
[03:05] <Drew_27> It's loading. How to screenshot with Ubuntu? XD
[03:06] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | Drew_27
[03:06] <Drew_27> oh that's curious
[03:06] <daftykins> same way as usual
[03:06] <iheartkode> I just realized when i close chrome it speeds up.
[03:06] <Drew_27> I have another 7.5 on another Partition as FAT
[03:06] <daftykins> Drew_27: presumably that's your flash drive plugged in.
[03:06] <Drew_27> OH. Yup
[03:06] <iheartkode> but it  was fast before when i first installed it
[03:07] <daftykins> iheartkode: there y'go, use FF instead ;)
[03:07] <riz0n> Is Ubuntu 12.04.1 released yet?
[03:07] <iheartkode> I can't my dad uses chrome for gmail bookmarks etc
[03:07] <iheartkode> 14.04.1 you mean?
[03:07] <Drew_27> @daftykins why wouldn't my drive be big enough for games? I don't download tons; just Team Fortress 2, Minecraft, League of Legends.
[03:07] <Devme> Plzz i have a unsupported hoary hedgehog ubuntu.which is the os with all best features for my 10 yrs old intel celeron pc??
[03:07] <Jordan_U> lamrz: I assume you're already passed this point, but is this how you're trying to use the keyring: http://superuser.com/questions/508916/is-it-possible-to-import-a-gnome-keyring-to-another-from-its-binary-files ?
[03:07] <sysRPL> hello
[03:08] <riz0n> yeah 14.04.1 sorry
[03:08] <iheartkode> check the site for releases
[03:08] <daftykins> Drew_27: right so you'll have to add all those up, size wise, then make ubuntu's partition enough for itself and all that.
[03:08] <sysRPL> could someone help me with a problem i've had on ubntu for a while? i cannot connect to a windows 7 shared folder from ubuntu ... i've read a lot online and nothing has helped
[03:08] <Jordan_U> Devme: "best" is always subjective, but try Lubuntu 14.04.
[03:08] <Jordan_U> !lubuntu | Devme
[03:09] <iheartkode> Firefox is freezing ubuntu also taking for ever to load
[03:09] <Drew_27> @daftykins how much space does Ubuntu use usually, and why might the installer have given errors previously?
[03:09] <sysRPL> basically i am typing smb://192.168.1.75 into the nautilus location bar
[03:09] <Drew_27> AND, is there a way to completely uninstall Ubuntu without hitting "reinstall"?
[03:09] <iheartkode> sda1
[03:09] <Devme> yes i have tried but with a 700 MB cd.it didnt work then what should i do??
[03:09] <sysRPL> and i get an "Oops! Something ent wrong" emssage
[03:10] <daftykins> Drew_27: sadly for your second question my crystal ball is in for repair... for size, probably under 3GB installed ubuntu size, not sure
[03:10] <sysRPL> this has happened on a few different installs of ubuntu with this windows machine
[03:10] <iheartkode> Chrome and firefox both are making my system slow. I have plenty of ram and cpu power.
[03:10] <iheartkode> and fresh install
[03:10] <Devme> shoud i try with a DVD??
[03:11] <Drew_27> iheartkode what do you mean "plenty of ram and cpu power"? Specs to back that up?
[03:11] <daftykins> Devme: pretty sure all the ISOs are bigger than a CD-R now. So DVD, yes
[03:11] <Jordan_U> Devme: What do you mean by "didn't work"?
[03:12] <daftykins> Drew_27: but it's not installed...
[03:12] <Devme> i cant write .iso file in cd.
[03:13] <Devme> k,i will try with a DVD...
[03:13] <daftykins> Drew_27: did you upload that image yet?
[03:13] <lamrz> Jordan_U, I think what this user did is the same as what I did. I copy-pasted the recovered files into /.gnome2/keyrings folder..I've always done that before, and this is an old system where I'd pasted the same keyrings earlier. aside from the case that the keyrings are errorenously recovered, what can I try?
[03:13] <Drew_27> Well.. when I start up it says to select a version technically, and when I hit "install" from the USB exe file, it says "a current version exists. Uninstall and reinstall?"
[03:13] <Drew_27> Also, you were right, but I can.. which partitions do you need to see?
[03:13] <lamrz> meaning not are, but might be errorenously recovered*
[03:13] <daftykins> USB exe? that sounds like WUBI. Do. Not. Use. WUBI.
[03:13] <daftykins> best advice i can give you, ever.
[03:13] <Drew_27>  not wubi
[03:14] <sysRPL> when i ... smbclient -L 192.168.1.75 -U mywindowsusername ... i get ... Connection to 192.168.1.75 failed (Error NT_STATUS_RESOURCE_NAME_NOT_FOUND)
[03:14] <Drew_27> It's an EXE on my usb that installs it apparently? It's from the ubuntu website installation
[03:14] <daftykins> Drew_27: gparted shows the whole disk.
[03:14] <Drew_27> @dafty right, my bad, I was looking at it wrong, almost done
[03:15] <daftykins> Drew_27: i'm sorry nothing you're saying makes sense, i've got to call it a night now. i still say resize the Windows partition... make 80GB+ of space, then reinstall. maybe try reading some docs too, you shouldn't be needing to manually partition at all - the installer should see windows and ask if you want to install alongside
[03:16] <Drew_27> http://imagebin.org/313552
[03:16] <Drew_27> oh 80+ GB
[03:16] <Drew_27> And the problem is it didn't see that
[03:16] <Drew_27> I manually did it, then it still didn't work.. eh..
[03:17] <daftykins> whoa.
[03:17] <Drew_27> ??
[03:17] <daftykins> that's... one messed up disk
[03:17] <Drew_27> ... uh..
[03:18] <daftykins> 50MB sat in the middle there doing nothing
[03:18] <Drew_27> 39.05 GiB was for the ubuntu, the 50 MB was my attempt at giving it a SWAP space
[03:18] <iheartkode> Fresh install 14.04   open chrome locks up open FF froze the pc..   ?
[03:18] <Drew_27> it asked for one, and I googled it, and that's where it went downhill
[03:18] <daftykins> it looks like you tried to resize the 100MB sda1 to 50MB
[03:18] <Drew_27> ...I did, you know Google
[03:19] <daftykins> right click sda1 and see if you can resize it back to normal
[03:19] <iheartkode> ubuntu runs fast without loading chrome or FF wtf
[03:19] <Drew_27> I think I can
[03:19] <Drew_27> resized
[03:20] <cwide> Hey I was wondering if someone could help me. For some reason whenever I load any Linux distro my USB 2.0 ports don't work but my USB 3.0 ports DO work. Any ideas?
[03:20] <lamrz> I wonder if I should also try to recover the old login keyring of the machine where the keyring itself was, and maybe they would then match each other
[03:20] <daftykins> Drew_27: also, right click and unmount sda2
[03:20] <Drew_27> unmount sda2.. I don't think it'll let me
[03:20] <Drew_27> It hasn't let me before
[03:20] <daftykins> you are booted from the flash drive, right?
[03:20] <Foxhoundz> Does anyone use Digital Ocean here?
[03:20] <Drew_27> Gotta wait for it to reload because I applied the change and it's refreshing, but
[03:20] <Drew_27> Uh...
[03:21] <Drew_27> I think I'm from the flash drive??
[03:21] <Drew_27> That might be the issue tbh
[03:21] <ObrienDave> is sda2 your windows partition?
[03:21] <Drew_27> Correct
[03:21] <Drew_27> ..I think
[03:21] <daftykins> ObrienDave: come now the window says it all :P
[03:21] <Drew_27> http://imagebin.org/313552 @ObrienDave
[03:21] <fellipe> hi, I have an ubuntu server 12.04 with 3 interfaces and I've noted that after rebooting they are changed. For example, the eth0 becomes eth1, and eth1 becomes eth2 and so on... what could be it
[03:21] <Drew_27> PS the 50 MB was fixed
[03:22] <ObrienDave> yea, yea, tired ;P
[03:22] <Jordan_U> fellipe: Install biosdevname for consistant device naming.
[03:22] <fellipe> Jordan_U,  hi. Just install it? Any configuration?
[03:23] <daftykins> Drew_27: so run the installer again and get up to the partitioning step, then share an image
[03:23] <Drew_27> umount: /isodevice: device is busy.
[03:23] <Drew_27>         (In some cases useful info about processes that use
[03:23] <Drew_27>          the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1))
[03:23] <Drew_27> I think I'm logged on FROM the drive itself
[03:23] <daftykins> yeah i'm not convinced you're booted entirely separately... or you've done something to somehow be tied to your Windows partition
[03:23] <Drew_27> somehow or another
[03:23] <Drew_27> I have no idea what but
[03:23] <Drew_27> Gah :L
[03:23] <Drew_27> :(
[03:24] <daftykins> do you have any important data in Windows?
[03:24] <Jordan_U> fellipe: Just install it, and get used to the "odd" device names :)
[03:24] <Drew_27> Yeah, I actually do
[03:24] <daftykins> Drew_27: got an external hard disk to backup to?
[03:24] <Drew_27> If you count a 8 GB flash drive.. /scoff
[03:24] <Drew_27> an*
[03:25] <fellipe> Jordan_U, sorry for my english. So, what's the meaning of get used to the odd device names?
[03:26] <daftykins> Drew_27: that'll be a no then
[03:26] <cwide> Hey I was wondering if someone could help me. For some reason whenever I load any Linux distro my USB 2.0 ports don't work but my USB 3.0 ports DO work. Any ideas?
[03:26] <Drew_27> @daftykins Is there a proper installer link you can give me btw?
[03:26] <daftykins> Drew_27: ok, i think a lot of work has to be done before you're ready to install and even then you'll end up with very little disk space for either OS
[03:26] <ObrienDave> !crosspost | cwide
[03:27] <Drew_27> .. Okay.. "a lot of work"??
[03:27] <Foxhoundz> I think my Ubuntu might have gotten hacked.
[03:27] <daftykins> Drew_27: the way it works is you boot a DVD or flash drive with ubuntu on, and you run the installer. there isn't really another way to approach it, that way should be fine.
[03:27] <Foxhoundz> I found some odd commands in .bash_history.
[03:27] <Drew_27> Alright. I'll get more space unallocated and try doing that
[03:27] <Drew_27> I guess I configured BIOS wrong
[03:27] <daftykins> Drew_27: you really need to have your Windows data backed up before you continue, you're lucky as it is that you haven't lost the ability to boot Windows
[03:27] <Drew_27> lucky??
[03:28] <daftykins> BIOS? BIOS doesn't have anything to do with partitioning :)
[03:28] <Drew_27> It's using 35 MB of the 100..
[03:28] <Drew_27> Yes it does, to boot from the USB
[03:28]  * pity Hi guys! Can I send a command to multiple hosts with ssh one time? Like this: ssh host1,host2,host3 uptime
[03:29] <daftykins> Drew_27: ok, but no something way more seriously wrong is going on in that you're somehow in a live session but the windows partition is mounted and won't drop
[03:30] <Drew_27> That is a little strange.. I do agree
[03:30] <Drew_27> Well
[03:30] <Drew_27> let me tell you how it boots up right now
[03:30] <daftykins> Drew_27: anywho i really must go. feel free to address the channel for more help, write down the links of info you shared so you can show them what they're letting themselves in for
[03:30] <daftykins> however if they run screaming, don't be too dissuaded
[03:30] <Drew_27> It turns on, shows the Lenovo screen (yay Lenovo), and then tells me to select a version: Windows 7 or Ubuntu
[03:30] <Drew_27> just saying, and alright
[03:30] <ObrienDave> that's not a live boot
[03:31] <lamrz> can anyone help me with my recent question please?
[03:31] <xangua> !ask | lamrz
[03:31] <Drew_27> Well I didn't install it correctly yet, yet I can turn it on with Ubuntu.. it gives me 5 seconds to hit ESC for options like "demo version"
[03:31] <daftykins> lamrz: someone would reply if they could
[03:31] <ObrienDave> Drew_27, that's the grub boot
[03:31] <Drew_27> Which, is what I'm on right now
[03:31] <Drew_27> Ok.. Didn't know that
[03:31] <lamrz> maybe they were busy
[03:31] <Drew_27> Either way, so my job right now is to go to Windows, free more space, then boot from USB, right?
[03:32] <Drew_27> And come back here if I need any more help?
[03:32] <daftykins> i think you've somehow installed GRUB and made it boot an ISO from your windows partition
[03:32] <Drew_27> I don't even know dude
[03:32] <Drew_27> NO idea
[03:32] <daftykins> nah this is sounding way worse than before
[03:32] <Drew_27> That's why I was asking how to uninstall earlier
[03:32] <Drew_27> o.o
[03:32] <The0x539> meanwhile I just want to boot to grub
[03:32] <The0x539> :/
[03:32] <daftykins> but yeah, someone that's awake needs to help you
[03:32] <ObrienDave> and i'm not THAT awake ;P
[03:32] <Drew_27> Alrighty.. Take care, thanks for all your help daftykins
[03:33] <Drew_27> Obrien plz ;(
[03:33] <Drew_27> ;L
[03:33] <The0x539> because RN i need to access it through 8.1's advanced startup
[03:33] <daftykins> The0x539: you don't appear to have asked a question though
[03:33] <lamrz> daftykins, it is a rather generic question, I guess, I'll be happy if someone can help sometime
[03:33] <daftykins> cya \o
[03:33] <Elouise> My laptop can access WiFi, but no internet connection? Help
[03:33] <The0x539> how would I boot straight to grub on windows 8.1.1/uefi
[03:34] <Drew_27> I don't want to hurt this computer any more than I have... Anyone here smart about dual boot? :l
[03:34] <Elouise> It was working before, and I went to a hotel, and I had to do the sudo dhclient -r thing, and it worked. Now I got home, it's not working anymore.. help me please
[03:34] <Drew_27> :I
[03:34] <McMido> how to display php files in terminal ??
[03:34] <Bashing-om> lamrz: State your issue, We will see what I know.
[03:35] <Drew_27> Or... Anyone know anything about installing 14.04 alongside Windows 7
[03:35] <Drew_27> And where I went wrong
[03:35] <Drew_27> (If not, I can try to fix it myself in a few mins I guess)
[03:35] <Ben64> Drew_27: explain in detail what you did
[03:35] <Jordan_U> Fox/lastlog Drew_27
[03:35] <ObrienDave> Drew_27, the 50mb partition is your windows boot. make that one use the next 50mb blank space.....
[03:35] <Jordan_U> Sorry :)
[03:35] <Drew_27> Obrien, done
[03:35] <McMido> <Drew_27 well iam already installed ubuntu 14.4 alonge side win 8.1
[03:35] <Drew_27> I didn't update the image with that yet
[03:36] <Drew_27> McMido, question...
[03:36] <Elouise> My WiFi was working before. I went to a hotel, and I had to do the sudo dhclient -r thing, and it worked (thanks to google). Now I got home, it's not working anymore.. help me please
[03:36] <Drew_27> After you put the file(s?) on the usb drive did you RUN the exe on it or no??
[03:36] <McMido> nope
[03:36] <Drew_27> or CD or DVD
[03:36] <Drew_27> damn
[03:36] <Drew_27> That's where I went wrong
[03:36] <McMido> usb
[03:36] <Drew_27> I ran the exe..
[03:36] <Drew_27> Went through some weird setup
[03:36] <McMido> no dont run :D
[03:36] <Drew_27> Well I did.
[03:36] <Drew_27> Dunno the solution..
[03:36] <ObrienDave> Drew_27, let me look at the screenshot again
[03:37] <McMido> just restart it and use boot from usb :d
[03:37] <lamrz> Bashing-om,  I recovered  my keyring file via photorec, and pasted it in the keyrings folder of an old enough system (was done successfully earlier) yet this time the password couldnt unlock the keyring file. the password is correct.
[03:37] <Drew_27> Alright. The Windows boot is back to normal, which is the top (two?)
[03:37] <Drew_27> McMido, I haven't had success with that yet jsyk
[03:37] <lamrz> what can I do to unlock it?
[03:37] <lamrz> assuming, of course, there is no error occured in the file recovery
[03:38] <McMido> <Drew_27 well Retry it :D
[03:38] <Drew_27> :l alright
[03:38] <Bashing-om> lamrz: Sorry, out of my sphere of knowlege, I do not know how that keyring works.
[03:38] <Drew_27> I'll wait ObrienDave's response, then if nothing new, try resizing for more space, then I'll try booting straight from USB
[03:38] <ObrienDave> Drew_27, can you post a new screenshot of gparted, please?
[03:39] <Drew_27> Sure thing
[03:39] <Jordan_U> Drew_27: If you boot Ubuntu's installer normally and use automatic partitioning I expect that it will work fine.
[03:40] <McMido> well ^^ thats right
[03:40] <Drew_27> .. Oh alright, should I resize so that the "free space" is gone then instead?
[03:40] <Drew_27> http://imagebin.org/313554
[03:41] <Drew_27> Because I found out you can do that, give the space back..
[03:41] <McMido> well leave it like that :d
[03:41] <ObrienDave> much better!
[03:41] <Drew_27> Leave it like so then boot from USB?
[03:41] <McMido> yes
[03:41] <Drew_27> Okay.. Now to go to a Lenovo help channel to figure out why this crap wouldn't boot from USB before, that is, after I try again to be sure
[03:41] <Drew_27> Thanks a lot, though
[03:42] <Jordan_U> Drew_27: Either with or without existing unallocated space automatic partitioning should work fine.
[03:42] <ObrienDave> set BIOS to boot from USB again
[03:42] <Drew_27> Thank you guys.. Cya, wish me luck
[03:42] <Drew_27> And uh, it said I had to enable something, but we'll see..
[03:42] <McMido> <Drew_27 good luck dude :)
[03:42] <lamrz> Bashing-om, no problem, thank you for your time and showing interest
[03:43] <McMido> well if your motherboard gigabyte you could press F12 after restarting , Blue screen will show up choose Usb-hdd :D
[03:44] <ObrienDave> *if*
[03:44] <McMido> ^
[03:45] <McMido> And now any one knows how to Display Php files in Terminal ??
[03:49] <somsip> McMido: use an editor, or less
[03:50] <lamrz> I'm trying to send the output of a command to a file by creating an output file and typing command >/filepath , but I'm getting empty outputs. what am I doing wrong here? :)
[03:50] <Bashing-om> lamrz: Wish I did, some day I might. hang loose here, others may respond.
[03:50] <somsip> lamrz: what is the command?
[03:50] <blah88> someone help me out  i have a .xsession script that is run on boot that will open up browser, my goal is to only run it if its not running, but it loops and keeps opening over and over. - my code is here http://pastebin.com/Zm8Su1R5 - any help i would appreciate
[03:51] <somsip> blah88: create a .pid file (or other lock file) when it runs, and check for its existence before running the main part of the script.
[03:51] <lamrz> somsip, it is this: find . -type f -print|xargs grep -l html;    and I add >/filepath to it
[03:52] <blah88> whats difference tho? pgrep should work
[03:52] <alternut> I have a server set up on a dchp connection, how would I go about making it send something like an email if my router's ip changes?
[03:53] <Bashing-om> lamrz: " command >/filepath" spaces .. try as command > Path_to_file-name .
[03:53] <McMido> <somsip well i want to get the output of the function displayed on the Terminal :)
[03:53] <somsip> alternut: maybe research scripts provided by companies like dyndns and no-ip that do that self same thing
[03:53] <alternut> alright
[03:53] <somsip> McMido: php {filename}.php then
[03:54] <McMido> <somsip hmm didnt try that , aight :)
[03:54] <lamrz> Bashing-om, with dot at the end?
[03:54] <somsip> alternut: you'll just need to change the final action to initiate an email rather than a call to the dyndns/noip API
[03:55] <lamrz> or does it belong only to the sentence?
[03:55] <Bashing-om> lamrz: No that is a period for sentence completion in this instance.
[03:55] <ornj> Can someone help me with adding a wireless printer?
[03:56] <alternut> ah okay, thanks somsip
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> !printer | ornj
[03:56] <alternut> to take this one step further, do you think it'd be possible to update my domain provider automatically?
[03:57] <ornj> Yeah, I'm there already.
[03:57] <somsip> alternut: depends who manages your DNS. Who is it?
[03:57] <ObrienDave> ornj, which brand?
[03:57] <ornj> I googled + got so results, I came here.
[03:57] <ornj> Canon
[03:57] <lamrz> It is the same. did I get it right? command>/path and then a blank space?
[03:57] <alternut> 1and1
[03:57] <alternut> and namecheap
[03:58] <somsip> alternut: I'm aware of them but have no idea if they offer an API to manage DNSs, which is what they'd need to do unless you want to do a lot of curl commands to post the change to their website manually
[03:59] <ornj> Dave>> I went to Network printer, searched on the IP address, it brings up something in Spanish it calls "Cola" (queue?) and then gives me a list of "connections"
[03:59] <ornj> among which are PASSTHRU, lp, PORT1, LPT0, LPT_PASSTHRU... etc.
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> ornj: did you install canon drivers? can you see printer name+ type?
[03:59] <ornj> COM0, 1, 2, COM3_PASSTHRU
[03:59] <lamrz> Bashing-om, anyway, thank you again! maybe I should call it a day..
[04:00] <Bashing-om> lamrz: no again, the blan space at the end of the command sequence might confuse the issue. just run for an example -> ls -la > test.txt <- which will create the file 'test.txt' in the present working directory.
[04:00] <ornj> I just selected "PASSTHRU" and that brought me to the list of manufacturers + from there I found my model printer
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> ornj: whats type of your canon?
[04:00] <ornj> but I was just wondering what the difference between all those was... I kinda just clicked "PASSTHRU" 'cause it was first on the list.  :P
[04:00] <ornj> MG5200, sir
[04:01] <ornj> I remember COM ports, sort of, vaguely, from back in the day, and I know I've seen LPT0, LPT1 before
[04:02] <ornj> but I have no idea what they do + no idea what PASSTHRU means.
[04:02] <ornj> or "lp"
[04:03] <lamrz> Bashing-om, does it need to be just the filename or the file path?
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> ornj: maybe this can help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/168089/how-do-i-install-my-new-canon-mg5250-printer-mg5200-series
[04:04] <alternut> somsip what do you mean by curl commands? think this would be something good for me to learn, I cant see the ip changing more than once or twice a year
[04:04] <mdim> Hi all! Is there a way to export Byobu's configuration to the GNU screen format?
[04:04] <mdim> i.e. to the format for ~/.screenrc
[04:04] <Bashing-om> lamrz: Depends on where you are at in the file system (Present Working Directoty) and where you want to go to, and where you want that created file to be.
[04:05] <SchrodingersScat> !info curl | alternut
[04:05] <somsip> alternut: its offtopic to go into detail here. But you'd be using curl to make a series of calls to 1and1 DNS management pages to replicate what your browser would be doing if you changed the IP manually. It may not be possible though.
[04:05] <ornj> Thanks, lotuspsychje
[04:06] <lamrz> Bashing-om, I run the command in the same folder as that of the output file.
[04:07] <SchrodingersScat> alternut: there is a #curl
[04:07] <alternut> ah okay
[04:07] <alternut> thanks
[04:08] <lamrz> Bashing-om, but thank you, really. I solved the problem the other way, followed the outputs from the terminal
[04:08] <Bashing-om> lamrz: Then, no path is needed. just the 'command > file-name' will do the trick.
[04:09] <lamrz> Bashing-om, oh, ok, was simple :) I'll keep it in mind for next time
[04:10] <Bashing-om> lamrz: Good deal, just remember all things are relative to that PWD >
[04:12] <lamrz> Bashing-om, I will remember it, thank you for your help and the learning!
[04:13] <Bashing-om> la : ) -> I am here to learn also .. We are all in this together .
[04:14] <Foxhoundz> ok false alarm guys
[04:14] <Foxhoundz> my ubuntu was not hacked
[04:14] <Foxhoundz> everyone calm down
[04:14] <Foxhoundz> thank you for your hard work
[04:15] <Foxhoundz> ..y...you can go back to your regularly scheduled routine
[04:15] <lamrz> have a good night / day!
[04:16] <SchrodingersScat> Foxhoundz: absence of evidence is not evidence of absence
[04:16] <Kawaiola> When I try to gain root access or even run a command as sudo this is what comes up sudo: /etc/sudoers is owned by uid 1000, should be 0 any ideas
[04:17] <Foxhoundz> SchrodingersScat: http://pastebin.com/rVjpE0iQ
[04:17] <Foxhoundz> that's what I found in my .bash_history
[04:17] <Kawaiola> At this point it won't let me do anything I can't make changes and I believe this problem started because everytime I would log in I would make myself root
[04:18] <Kawaiola> Then when my co worker wanted to make changes ftp I have to give the sudo account access to all of the files and groups
[04:18] <Kawaiola> Well somewhere in doing that it reall messed up the permissions.
[04:19] <Kawaiola> At least thats what I think I'm a telecom guy who understand unix pretty well but I have never really go into linux until recently so I basicaly just did a lot of reading a messing around until things worked
[04:19] <Kawaiola> but I'm hoping someone else has had this issue before
[04:23] <Bashing-om> Kawaiola: try : http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/sudo for that solution.
[04:24] <Kawaiola> Okay I will give it a shot and let you know how it goes thank you [I did look online for the solution but nothing so far has seemed to help me out]
[04:24] <Kawaiola> I'm begining to think it might be harder because my ubuntu is running on a vm
[04:26] <Bashing-om> Kawaiola: Cant say abot running in a VM .. nother source to look at -> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo <- .
[04:26] <Capprentice> What is correct way to instll - Unity3d on 64 bit Ubuntu?
[04:26] <ObrienDave> Kawaiola, that should not matter. Vbox?
[04:28] <dw1> how can i make binutils-multiarch work in a jailkit jail :)
[04:28] <Kawaiola> ObrienDave: No not vbox I'm using vmware sphere on a server that runs a few vms and I only say it might make a difference because throughout the entire setup I ran into a lot of issues because of the way it installs in a vm there seems to be extra folders and such
[04:28] <dw1> i copied all the files but its not enough.. arg ;D
[04:29] <Beldar> Kawaiola, No image of the OS when working?
[04:29] <Foxhoundz> O_O
[04:29] <Foxhoundz> oh no
[04:29] <Foxhoundz> oh no no no
[04:29] <Foxhoundz> ok well
[04:29] <Foxhoundz> I just nuked my partition
[04:29] <Foxhoundz> good night everyone
[04:29] <Beldar> Foxhoundz, Lat off the enter, you are not new here.
[04:30] <Beldar> Lay
[04:30] <Foxhoundz> Beldar: I feel like we've had this conversation before
[04:30] <ObrienDave> probably LMAO
[04:30] <Beldar> Foxhoundz, If you abuse the enter that is a possibility
[04:30] <Foxhoundz> Beldar: you seem to get upset about mundane things
[04:30] <ObrienDave> *no enter abuse*
[04:31] <Beldar> Foxhoundz, That I am upset is a projection, your response is one that is self absorbed and narcissistic
[04:31] <Beldar> welcome to ignore
[04:31] <Foxhoundz> no
[04:31] <Foxhoundz> Beldar: please don't ignore me.
[04:32] <Locke2002> Foxhoundz: Think you can recover the partition?
[04:33] <Foxhoundz> I'm going to reinstall the operating system
[04:36] <rost> kuckuck
[04:36] <rost> hello need support
[04:37] <Beldar> rost, Lots of help here waiting for your description, of your issue.
[04:38] <rost> question: someone sends spam over my system - stopping "postfix "helps a little time  -  what is the best effort in this way!?
[04:39] <Beldar> rost, If someone else has access, turn it off and reload the working image or reinstall
[04:39] <Kawaiola> Bashing-om: Okay so here is the biggest issue I have when it comes to resolving the issue I can't get into recovery mode because everytime I boot the server from the VM it boots and asks for my crypt password and there is no boot menu there is no way to get into recovery mode at least not a way I understand
[04:41] <Bashing-om> Kawaiola: What results when you boot up from grub with the boot paramaeter "text" . Can you 'sudo' from that terminal ?
[04:43] <ornj> I've tried a bunch of different methods + it keeps seeming to instal the printer but then whenever I try to test print my job is always "Held"
[04:44] <rost> @beldar - yes, i 've already done it. i just checked my complete configuration, take a original iso img, boot and nuke the disk, need to know how i can disable or delete my L1+L2 Cache, because this worked on another system...but here oon my fuji - laptop can't get control over it
[04:45] <Kawaiola> Bashing-om: That is the problem I never get to see it boot from grub, by the time I can open the virtual console it is already asking me for my crypt password and I can't make it give me consol access fast enough to catch the grub loader
[04:45] <causative> just upgraded to 14.04 a couple days ago, I have a problem: sometimes when I click once on a window to select it, it fullscreens... I think it has something to do with compiz "grid" mode but I turned that off
[04:46] <raj> how do I get the latest irssi since ubuntu's repo has the old one?
[04:49] <causative> raj what ubuntu version are you on, with 14.04 irssi 0.8.15 is in the repository which is almost the latest version
[04:49] <rost> @serious question2 all: how can disable or set my L1+L2 Cache to write trough etc.
[04:49] <Beldar> raj, Support here is per what is in the repos, if you have a rhetoric that proves needed use that is enough for help.
[04:50] <raj> causative, I'm on 14.04
[04:50] <raj> irssi version 0.8.16 has been released
[04:50] <causative> is it a big change from 0.8.15?
[04:50] <raj> ssl security
[04:50] <Beldar> raj, Many apps in the repos are not the latest.
[04:50] <raj> Beldar, I'm aware
[04:51] <Beldar> raj, download the tar from them and install
[04:51] <raj> and apt-remove what I have installed?
[04:51] <causative> do you really need ssl security in irc though, after all this is a public communications medium
[04:51] <lostlogin> I am having trouble with login on with my initial account on 14.04 that looks to have started after my last [dist-]upgrade.   That may be coincidental, the other odd thing was a keychain request after I attempted to setup ssh-agent.  I am able to log in using tty and newly added accounts are able to log in without a problem,  tty or into lightdm.
[04:51] <causative> currently 1595 people could be watching and logging us as we speak
[04:51] <lostlogin> I've searched around for a couple days but so for nothing looks to be detailed enough
[04:52] <Beldar> raj, I've never used that client, but that does make sense, your configs is all you need.
[04:52] <Bashing-om> Kawaiola: There does exit a means to enable the root account, I have been looking for the docs, have not found them. sorry.
[04:52] <raj> Beldar, and can I give apt-get a tarball?
[04:53] <lostlogin> not really sure what the next investigation option would be.  so any suggestions would be a helpful.
[04:53] <ObrienDave> Kawaiola, hold shift key while booting. that will give you the grub menu
[04:54] <rost> @serious question2 all: how can disable or set my L1+L2 Cache to write trough
[04:54] <Beldar> raj, no, it is installed different, should be a read me inside with instructions, it will not get support here though technically.
[04:54] <Kawaiola> ObrienDave: you mean after I type in my crypt password so it mounts the drive and everything
[04:54] <ObrienDave> before
[04:54] <raj> Beldar, I know how to install a tarball, but I would like to use apt-get to do it to keep things organized
[04:54] <rost> @serious question2 all: how can disable or set my L1+L2 Cache to write trough
[04:54] <raj> is apt-get able to install from a tarball?
[04:54] <Beldar> no
[04:55] <raj> that sucks
[04:56] <Beldar> raj, If you want organized and support here use the app in the repos. ;)
[04:56] <raj> the one without passwoded SSL certificates?
[04:56] <raj> rather have the secure version
[04:56] <Beldar> raj, Never used it I don't know, the one I use does so...........
[04:57] <Bashing-om> Kawaiola: Enable rootsudo -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo < -.
[04:58] <raj> Beldar, so there's no way to do something similar to step 4 here http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/a/511 with apt?
[05:00] <Beldar> raj, Aur is the arclinux repos
[05:00] <Beldar> archlinux
[05:00] <Kawaiola> Bashing-om: Okay I'll give a shot thank you
[05:00] <raj> yep
[05:00] <raj> I'm wondering if ubuntu has something similar
[05:01] <Bashing-om> Kawaiola: Good hunting... I am off at this time ! later all !
[05:01] <Beldar> raj, I can't really help this is a third party issue, not supported here.
[05:01] <Beldar> help anymore that is
[05:02]  * Beldar put the tinfoil counseling fedora in the closet
[05:04] <Kawaiola> Thanks for your help
[05:04] <lostlogin> I've also removed the home dir for the account and restored from /etc/skel.  This has also not worked.
[05:06] <lostlogin> I also do not see anything in logs that looks odd..  at least not to me.
[05:07] <rost> need help. need to know how i can set my L1+2 Cache 2 write trough on an fuji - lifebook S7020; did anyone know how to
[05:10] <rost> need to reboot, see late
[05:24] <faudzan> hi
[05:27] <chrirc> hi....i want to create wireless network with another computer...i have a router with built-in dsl modem and wifi. what else do i need?
[05:28] <Locke2002> Do you know how to set up a wireless network, apart from using Linux as part of it?
[05:29] <chrirc> i am new to wireless network and i need to know what i need to buy in terms of hardware
[05:29] <Locke2002> Do both your computers have wireless cards or USB?
[05:30] <chrirc> the other computer has wireless pci card....do i need wireless pci card for my computer too?
[05:31] <Locke2002> any kind of wireless, pci, usb
[05:31] <Locke2002> that should be all the hardware you need
[05:33] <chrirc> but on my computer i have the router/ modem with wifi connected  on an ethernet port...do i still need wireless card for my computer too?
[05:33] <Locke2002> Oh, ok, sorry
[05:33] <Locke2002> yeah, with the wired network and the wireless computer(s) with wifi devices
[05:34] <chrirc> so no need to buy any wireless card for my computer...right?
[05:35] <Locke2002> Right, if it's wired in
[05:38] <chrirc> all the wireless guides on the internet was about separate modem and router devices...mine is a router with built in modem and wifi on it...thats why i  was confused if it is suitable
[05:39] <HankMccoy> is it even possible to create a VHD in windows 8 disc manager that will work with Ubuntu all the tutorials have ppl booting windows 7&8 I want 8 and Ubuntu...
[05:39] <Locke2002> Ah. You should be fine if you are able to log into it. I've never heard of an ISP putting a password on it to keep you from setting it up yourself without paying their "multiple computers on the internet" tax, but I wouldn't be surprised if that was happening somewhere in the US
[05:40] <chrirc> i am from europe... i can log in to my router without password
[05:40] <Locke2002> Ok, you should be all set. Good luck :)
[05:41] <Mrua> mine had password , I just reset it and got the login info from a member of their tech team
[05:42] <chrirc> but now i need to find a guide for the settings i need to put on my router to network the two computers :)
[05:47] <chrirc> i know that if a laptop will use the password of my wifi can use my interner connection....but how can i be able to see this computer and share files with it or play games?
[05:49] <loa> what is way to create persistant iptables rules under ubuntu?
[05:56] <HankMccoy> is it even possible to create a VHD in windows 8 disc manager that will work with Ubuntu all the tutorials have ppl booting windows 7&8 I want 8 and Ubuntu...
[05:59] <HankMccoy> I finally got my oracle virtual box to work (self taught) and I want a working partition almost made one or just a VHD so I can run Linux
[06:09] <HankMccoy> well just let me know if you get a minute to respond
[06:12] <Ben64> HankMccoy: if you want to install ubuntu in vbox then do it... whats the problem?
[06:22] <HankMccoy> I already have oracle virtual box working I went into disc managment then action...create VHD.I have 99 gig unallocated VHD need to assign it to a drive and get my ISO on there I think that's how it works
[06:23] <HankMccoy> My flashdrive is to small for me to even load a proper browser with apt-get
[06:23] <Jordan_U> HankMccoy: Create a virtual DVD drive using the iso file, then boot from that and install Ubuntu normally.
[06:24] <HankMccoy> I am wondering if VHD will even run Ubuntu/Linux yeah VHD is virtual hard drive
[06:24] <Ben64> vhd is just the file extension vbox uses for drive images, it doesn't care what you do with it
[06:25] <Jordan_U> HankMccoy: The type of virtual drive used for storage has no effect on what operating systems you can use, just like the brand of hard drive in a physical machine doesn't limit OS usage.
[06:26] <HankMccoy> I understood what you were trying to tell me
[06:27] <Jordan_U> HankMccoy: Virtual Machines, which are associated with virtual hard drives and other virtual hardware, can be configured to present hardware to the OS that's more likely to work well for that OS, but 1: Virtualbox has settings for GNU/Linux and 2: I expect that all of Virtualbox's combinations of virtual hardware are supported by Ubuntu.
[06:41] <helmut_> hi
[06:42] <lastarms> hi helmut_
[06:48] <loa> how i can get current dns server under ubuntu?
[06:49] <lastarms> loa: what  do you mean?
[06:49] <loa> i see that in resolv.conf there is caching server 127.0.0.1
[06:49] <loa> but i want to see real one.
[06:51] <lastarms> loa: try see in your network config. unless you have dhcp on
[06:52] <loa> lastarms, thats why asking for... i have dhcp on
[06:53] <lastarms> DHCP that means that your DNS should be what the router gives you
[06:53] <lastarms> loa: your dns will be your router
[06:53] <Jordan_U> !resolveconf | loa
[06:54] <Jordan_U> !resolvconf | loa
[06:54] <loa> Jordan_U, nothing recieved
[06:57] <HackVictim1001> evening y'all
[06:57] <lastarms> evening HackVictim1001
[06:58] <HackVictim1001> tonight I'd like to speak with someone who REALLY knows cron, specifically vixie cron
[06:58] <HackVictim1001> any help?
[06:58] <Beldar> HackVictim1001, free help and volunteers state the issue and hope for help like we all do. ;)
[06:59] <loa> Jordan_U, lastarms lol there was "connection info". i am so with that in linux all is hard, so i don't check such simple thing)
[06:59] <loa> Jordan_U, maybe it will be usefull there is broken link, last one in that message.
[07:00] <HackVictim1001> monday early morning I did my usual perusal of auth.log and saw a cron job coming from an IP geolocated to hefai, China. it repeatedly tried to brute force root. which we all know he had nothing coming there. after 4 days I shut it off and took the experimental box off the network
[07:01] <HackVictim1001> what I wanna know is without breaking ssh, how did he get a cron job in to do his dirty work. over the 4 days he used 14 different IP addys from China, to Viet Nam to  Pennsylvania
[07:02] <loa> here are so frequently appears questions about cron and hackers.
[07:02] <Beldar> bots?
[07:02] <loa> something wrong with ubuntu?
[07:02] <Ben64> loa: nope, its the same guy as before
[07:02] <loa> lol
[07:03] <HackVictim1001> can someone help me, I'm just trying to get that one answer
[07:03] <Jordan_U> HackVictim1001: What user's cron job was it added to?
[07:03] <loa> HackVictim1001, what installed on your box?
[07:03] <lastarms> HackVictim1001: how did you have a cron job running from the internet?
[07:03] <HackVictim1001> that is my question
[07:03] <loa> how strong password for sudo user was?
[07:03] <HackVictim1001> 26 digits
[07:04] <loa> and what installed was on that server?
[07:04] <lastarms> HackVictim1001: could you show us your log?
[07:04] <Ben64> can you pastebin the log?
[07:04] <HackVictim1001> upper, lower, number, special char, and 1 alt ascii
[07:04] <loa> web server for example
[07:04] <loa> or something else
[07:04] <ieanmarrc> my god , IRC still exist
[07:04] <HackVictim1001> it had lamp on it, but nothing installed
[07:04] <HackVictim1001> no web page other than that it works thing
[07:05] <HackVictim1001> I only had it up from saturday
[07:05] <HackVictim1001> and got hit monday
[07:05] <loa> strange.
[07:05] <loa> what cronjob it runs?
[07:05] <Jordan_U> HackVictim1001: What user's cron job was this password brute forcing script added to?
[07:05] <loa> if it file, you can check what user it was.
[07:06] <HackVictim1001> well here's the rub. my dumb arse ripped it off the network, and did a repartition and reinstall
[07:06] <Ben64> then you'll never know
[07:06] <HackVictim1001> I'm using testdisk and photorec to recover it now
[07:07] <black_13> i am trying to install the vmware tools but during the installation it says i can't find the header files?
[07:07] <HackVictim1001> yeah, I'm a moron, I just wanted whatever was in there OUT
[07:07] <HackVictim1001> I hope you understand that
[07:07] <lastarms> black_13: you need the linux-image-headers
[07:07] <HackVictim1001> sudo apt-get install linux-image-headers
[07:07] <loa> who are here have telepatic skills?
[07:07] <lastarms> HackVictim1001: cron is a job usually run by users.
[07:07] <loa> anyone?
[07:08] <lastarms> HackVictim1001: you are saying that someone is using cron to brute force something
[07:08] <HackVictim1001> yes I understand what cron does
[07:08] <HackVictim1001> yessir
[07:08] <lastarms> HackVictim1001: that means, one of your users, or your scripts are trying to do something
[07:08] <ObrienDave> loa, i failed mind reading class. most humans do ;)
[07:08] <HackVictim1001> well I had no scripts installed, and I'm the only user
[07:09] <HackVictim1001> no cron jobs in it yet, I mean I just installed it on saturday and got hit monday
[07:09] <Ben64> perhaps you were misinterpreting the auth.log
[07:09] <Vivek_VC> I am trying to install the puppet web logic server module
[07:09] <black_13> nothing called linux-image-headers
[07:09] <Vivek_VC> But the module is too large that I am not able to figure out where to start from.
[07:09] <Vivek_VC> Is there a simple howto for the wls and orawls module ?
[07:10] <loa> HackVictim1001, can't understand for what perpose then you installed ubuntu?
[07:10] <loa> if you don't do nothing.
[07:10] <HackVictim1001> umm no it was cron starts a job, bang bang 5 times from an IP addy somewhere in the world and it started over on a new ip address
[07:10] <loa> bang bang
[07:10] <Ben64> HackVictim1001: i really think you're reading the log file incorrectly
[07:11] <loa> cron is just local daemon.
[07:11] <HackVictim1001> I didnt have TIME to do anything, I did this at work, ended up getting done closing time saturday, closed sunday monday, bang monday night/tuesday morning
[07:12] <HackVictim1001> you tell me you cant run any kind of communicating binary from lowly local cron and make it talk to anywhere you like
[07:12] <loa> i think just someone tried to brute force your root password from network.
[07:12] <Ben64> HackVictim1001: did it look like this??? http://pastebin.com/nRc0ZquY
[07:13] <HackVictim1001> for 4 days straight?
[07:13] <loa> yes
[07:13] <loa> my server is under hard bruteforce erveryday.
[07:13] <loa> so i done few iptables rules for that.
[07:14] <loa> it is nothing special about it heare, it is normal situation for internet server.\
[07:14] <Jordan_U> HackVictim1001: What lead you to believe that cron was involved at all?
[07:14] <HackVictim1001> as a matter of fact it looked like 46 pages of that
[07:15] <loa> show logs then?
[07:15] <Ben64> HackVictim1001: so yes, it did look like my log snippet?
[07:15] <HackVictim1001> they are at work, I neglected to poke a hole for vnc on my way out today
[07:15] <Jordan_U> HackVictim1001: That's perfectly normal. Hundreds of thousands of machines are dedicated to just scouring random ip addresses for hosts with an open port 22, then trying to brute force login.
[07:16] <HackVictim1001> if its perfectly normal I sure don't like it
[07:16] <Jordan_U> HackVictim1001: I'd be more suspicious if you *didn't* have such things in your logs (mostly suspicious that you weren't actually connected to the interwebs properly :)
[07:17] <Ben64> well as long as you're connected to the internet and have an open port 22, you're going to get robots attempting to login
[07:17] <Jordan_U> HackVictim1001: The interent is a hostile place.
[07:17] <Ben64> it has nothing to do with cron whatsoever
[07:17] <HackVictim1001> oh no, it connected to the interwebs quite well
[07:17] <HackVictim1001> umm it keeps saying cron cron cron cron
[07:17] <Ben64> each line is separate
[07:19] <HackVictim1001> well if nothing else you guys made me feel so not all alone
[07:19] <HackVictim1001> its common misery
[07:19] <Ben64> not misery at all, nobody really cares about it
[07:20] <loa> Ben64, i care. Someday bruteforce so intense that i can't login on ssh.
[07:20] <loa> was *
[07:20] <HackVictim1001> well forgive me. this is my first adventure in internet facing machines. done a whole bunch of other fun things with ubuntu but not this
[07:21] <HackVictim1001> you guys can rest east that my dumb ass won't be in here every night bothering you about it anymore
[07:22] <HackVictim1001> easy I mean
[07:23] <Quoexl> so, with that out of the way, I salute you gents with some fine irish whiskey!
[07:24] <Beldar> I need something to degrease some parts thanks. ;)
[07:24] <Quoexl> oh it would certainly do the job
[07:25] <Beldar> sip degrease sip degrease rinse and repeat
[07:25] <Quoexl> little whiskey for the crank case, little whiskey for the mechanic
[07:32] <whowantstolivefo> hi, i use 12.04 and i get the following error when i try sudo-apt-get update http://paste.ubuntu.com/7637635/
[07:35] <needskype> Hello. I'm running 32bit Lubuntu 14.04. I need skype but I cannnot find it in Software Center/Package Installer.
[07:35] <_[myth> Try 'sudo apt-get install skype'
[07:35] <Flonka> try going to skype's homepage
[07:35] <bazhang> !info skype partner | needskype
[07:35] <Flonka> I used download from ther.e
[07:35] <_[myth> There indeed is skype package in multiverse repo.
[07:35] <bazhang> it's in the partner repo
[07:35] <Quoexl> W: Conflicting distribution: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com precise-updates Release (expected precise-updates but got precise)
[07:35] <Quoexl> shouldnt that be http://us.archive.ubuntu.com precise/updates Release
[07:35] <_[myth> ....main?
[07:36] <Beldar> whowantstolivefo, That is a lot of ppa's you know they are supported only by them? you might just need to load that key error with sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys "Key"
[07:37] <Quoexl> that is truly a gaggle of ppa's
[07:37] <needskype> bazhang: how to connect to this partner repo?
[07:38] <Beldar> needskype, software sources or the sources.list make sure ticked on.
[07:38] <Quoexl> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list find the 4 lines with # in front of the deb and delete the #, then sudo apt-get update
[07:38] <Quoexl> and youre golden
[07:38] <bazhang> via software sources needskype
[07:39] <McMido> how to extract gz files ?
[07:39] <loa> McLive, gunzip
[07:39] <strk> dbus-daemon @ 100% CPU, what can it be ?
[07:40] <strk> how to kill/restart it ?
[07:40] <strk> sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart # did not help
[07:40] <McMido> htop
[07:41] <McMido> apt-get install htop try that
[07:41] <Quoexl> sudo service dbus reload
[07:41] <strk> kill -15 didn't help either
[07:41] <Quoexl> or restart
[07:41] <strk>  3807 strk       20   0 30380  1644  1352 R 97.4  0.0  9:34.89 /bin/dbus-daemon --config-file=/etc/at-spi2/accessibility.conf --nofork --print-address 3
[07:41] <strk> McMido: what should I do with htop ?
[07:42] <Beldar> \
[07:42] <Beldar> sorry meant a backspace
[07:42] <McMido> <strk its smth like task manager in windows
[07:42] <Quoexl> using the unholy backslash!
[07:43] <strk> McMido: I know unix :) -- just asking if you have an idea why dbus-daemon is destroying my CPU
[07:43]  * Beldar clicks his heels a proclaims "This is not Kansas Anymore"
[07:43] <strk> process killed...
[07:43] <McMido> <strk oh sorry i dont :) iam new to Linux systems , just wanted to share what i know :)
[07:43] <Quoexl> god loves an OS with KILL as a command!
[07:44] <needskype> Thank you Quoexl  bazhang  Beldar
[07:44] <Quoexl> quite welcome
[07:44] <Quoexl> now change your nick to needfriendsonskype :)
[07:45] <jester_> join crossfire
[07:45] <McMido> lol
[07:45] <jester_> join #crossfire
[07:46] <Beldar> jester_ /j
[07:48] <Quoexl> now there's someone with little man syndrome
[07:48] <strk> McMido: thanks, appreciated (nice colors, htop)
[07:48] <McMido> <strk hehe
[07:49] <bazhang> Quoexl, take the chit chat elsewhere
[08:05] <AnonLucifer> yo!
[08:05] <mamed> hello guyz. how can i change dns permanently on ubuntu 14.04 vodafone ppp connection
[08:05] <AnonLucifer> anyone know why i can't transfer files through bluetooth?
[08:05] <AnonLucifer> i have ubuntu 12
[08:05] <mamed> AnonLucifer, afaik bluetooth is still problem on ubuntu
[08:06] <AnonLucifer> ow...
[08:06] <user258467> Hi, I search a printer that works out of the box with features: dual paper, wifi and multifunction do you know a device like that?
[08:07] <AnonLucifer> that's a good project for the future versions of ubuntu ;)
[08:08] <McMido> :O i cant Copy any thing from terminal :o
[08:08] <McMido> doesnt even show any thing when i click right click :(
[08:12] <wheatthin> McMido, just highlight and center click
[08:14] <wheatthin> is a dual 2.66ghz xeon strong enough for multiple vm's? I have 10gb of fb-dimms
[08:14] <wheatthin> dual quad*
[08:18] <McMido_> weird every thing just got freezed
[08:25] <AnonLucifer> does anyone know if wine has fixed the sound problem?
[08:25] <AnonLucifer> after i play for a while, the sound gets really bad and after a while it just mutes
[08:25] <AnonLucifer> any thaughts?
[08:27] <hebz0rl> hi is it possible to only list (not count) security updates?
[08:28] <Fudge> anyone experienced overclocking knocking out usb functionality on z87 gigabyte on Ubuntu
[08:28] <Beldar> hebz0rl, when, where and why?
[08:29] <MrCoin> hey ubuntu people, i am installing ubuntu on a macbook pro. there is an issue with the wifi. how can i install the wifi for the macbook pro?
[08:29] <Beldar> Fudge, describing the issue to the channel=help
[08:30] <hebz0rl> Beldar, i want to get the list via scripting and ssh, i have multiple hosts i want to get the list for, so i can check which updates are non problematic to update
[08:30] <Fudge> Beldar:  I just did
[08:31] <Beldar> hebz0rl, How would you know id problematic?
[08:31] <Beldar> !details | Fudge
[08:31] <hebz0rl> Beldar, because i know on which software our appliaction stack depends on
[08:32] <Fudge> like this https://teksyndicate.com/forum/overclocking/ubuntu-gone-nutz-after-overclock/165433
[08:33] <Beldar> hebz0rl, Ah, cool, not sure myself on security only, quick google foo shows lots of hits here is one. http://askubuntu.com/questions/152179/how-do-i-check-only-security-updates-from-the-command-line
[08:37] <hebz0rl> Beldar, ah i found that too but i was wondering if it is possible without copying around some files. i looked at apt-check and now i just patched it to print security updates sepperatly from updates but thx :D
[08:37] <Beldar> hebz0rl, I figured you had the skills to look, no problem. ;)
[08:38] <hebz0rl> Beldar, thx for the help ;D
[08:43] <ubuntubox> is AMD R7 250 GPU have proper drivers for Ubuntu? is it supported?
[08:44] <mamed> ok guyz . it realy annoys me . i try to set my dns in ubuntu 14.04 with vodafone vodem but it fails . can someone show me a way pls?
[08:46] <Beldar> ubuntubox, Some info, http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQ4MDM you might want to do some looking on the web I see some hits.
[08:48] <igor> mtorrent
[08:48] <ubuntubox> Beldar, so that means it is supported? with proprietary driver?
[08:49] <Beldar> ubuntubox, Not sure looks to be from the web in general, there is fglrx so.......
[08:49] <Beldar> proprietary are generally not suggested here is all.
[08:50] <ubuntubox> Beldar, ok
[08:50] <gry> What hardware is this again?
[08:51] <Beldar> gry, Directed at Whom?
[08:56] <MrCoin> hey ubuntu people, i am installing ubuntu on a macbook pro. there is an issue with the wifi. how can i install the wifi for the macbook pro?
[09:03] <Kvrmurthy> What is the issue? Any error message?
[09:04] <Kvrmurthy> Is WiFi switched on?
[09:06] <gry> MrCoin, wifi is builtin, with few exceptions of drivers. So it should try connecting, and it should produce an error message. The error message would help to understand what the issue is.
[09:06] <m1dnight> does anybody here use tmux?
[09:07] <m1dnight> Whenver I do ^d <arrow> to go to the next pane, it works
[09:07] <m1dnight> however,  I cna press the arrow again to go to another one
[09:07] <m1dnight> so when I want to go to the next pane and arrow up for my previous command I go to another pane
[09:09] <m1dnight> dju
[09:10] <m1dnight> mijne factorial wilt niet deftig werken :p
[09:10] <m1dnight> dacht dak er gauw ging zijn!
[09:10] <m1dnight> NIET DUS
[09:10] <nik^spotify> is there a way to disable the "Expo" feature in Unity?
[09:11] <nik^spotify> you can't turn it off in the Compiz settings because Unity plugin depends on it
[09:11] <nik^spotify> and I've tried unmapping the mouse button, but it always seems to fly into action on mouse button 5
[09:11] <nik^spotify> =/
[09:12] <m1dnight> wow, wrong channel
[09:12] <m1dnight> rofl sorry
[09:12] <m1dnight> (except for the tmux thing)
[09:15] <FourFire> hellopat, is there some issue with flash/IcedTea in firefox 30 ?
[09:20] <onthesta1rs> i just logged in to my laptop as normal but the launcher and top bar aren't there. my desktop background is visible but i cant even ctrl+alt+t to bring up a temrinal (14.04)
[09:22] <Beldar> onthesta1rs, Are you using proprietary graphic drivers?
[09:22] <onthesta1rs> yeah
[09:22] <Beldar> onthesta1rs, They do not follow kernel upgrades at times, have you had an upgrade?
[09:23] <onthesta1rs> possibly
[09:23] <onthesta1rs> would that happen during a normal sudo apt-get upgrade?
[09:24] <Beldar> onthesta1rs, A dist-upgrade is needed for kernels, however I would look at reloading them, just a guess at this point.
[09:24] <onthesta1rs> i see
[09:24] <onthesta1rs> how does one reload them
[09:25] <Beldar> onthesta1rs, How were they loaded originally
[09:25] <onthesta1rs> im not sure i follow
[09:25] <onthesta1rs> when does one load them
[09:26] <Beldar> onthesta1rs, If you are using proprietary graphic drivers you had to install them
[09:26] <onthesta1rs> oh i see, i thought you meant the kernel
[09:26] <onthesta1rs> first time round i installed via terminal
[09:30] <Beldar> onthesta1rs, This has been a mixed up communication that has gone circular, I can't help.
[09:30] <onthesta1rs> thanks anyway!
[09:31] <karab44> hello
[09:32] <WizJin> hi
[09:32] <karab44> When I watch youtube video my screen turns black and lock. This is normal when computer is idle but is this correct when watching videos? I don't remember I had it working that way before...
[09:33] <karab44> I am talking about fullscreen mode here
[09:33] <cfhowlett> karab44 immediate lockup or after viewing the video for some time?
[09:35] <karab44> some time of course, it all depends how do I set Brightness&Lock settings
[09:35] <karab44> it's set for 5 minutes when inactive
[09:36] <karab44> but watching video on player or youtube via browser shouldn't set machine as inactive
[09:36] <cfhowlett> karab44 see your power management and screensaver settings.  I'm guessing that your computer is going into screensaver/powersaving while the video is running.
[09:36] <karab44> yes, where do I find it?
[09:36] <cfhowlett> karab44 verify your settings - not sure where as I'm on xubuntu..  it's different for me
[09:37] <karab44> number of settings configuration is quite poor by default.
[09:39] <karab44> I can turn it on or off and set the timer
[09:39] <karab44> there are no exceptions to set
[09:39] <cfhowlett> karab44 try an alternate player then
[09:40] <karab44> I don't want to watch youtube on alternative players. Would you do that on my place?
[09:40] <cfhowlett> karab44 narrow the issue to a cause - it's an experiment
[09:41] <cfhowlett> karab44 for instance, try the chromium browser instead of firefox.
[09:41] <karab44> you mean play something in Mplayer and see what happen?
[09:41] <karab44> I can do that
[09:42] <user____> hi, I've installed ubuntu and have installed i3 window manager - since doing this ubuntu keeps forcing my keyboard layout to us. Right now I'm getting aruond that by typing 'setxkbmap gb'... how can I make ubuntu do this for me at boot up?
[09:43] <user____> my /etc/default/keyboard contains: XKBLAYOUT="gb"
[09:44] <sander_> всем привет )
[09:44] <cfhowlett> !ru|sander_
[09:50] <karab44> well, seems that using Video player there is no screen lock so it's good
[09:50] <karab44> why it's on youtube then?
[09:51] <cfhowlett> karab44 some obscure setting buried in the configurations.  BTW, logged in to YT or no.  If not, clear your FF settings/cache/config and reset to defaults
[09:52] <VA6DAH> Stupid question, is there anyway to scroll in nautilus (with a scroll wheel) while dragging a file/folder?
[09:56] <karab44> is caffeine right way to solve the issue?
[09:57] <karab44> is this behaviour a bug or oversight? I think 13.04 didn't had screen lock problems with flash video players...
[09:58] <cfhowlett> karab44 I don't know WHY and have never had a flash video issue on 12.04, so can't advise.  sorry.
[09:58] <karab44> yeah
[09:59] <karab44> it's pretty interesting
[09:59] <ikonia> to be honest, flash bugs, you're pretty much banging your head against a wall,
[09:59] <ikonia> the quicker you try to stop using/depending on flash, the better,
[10:00] <cfhowlett> karab44 I installed xubuntu-restricted-extras.  that seems to have cured all codec issues ...
[10:00] <karab44> html 5 for youtube is somekind of magic for me. I used it once when introduced and it just dissapered somewhere...
[10:02] <karab44> I just found option to enable html5 player for youtube. Let's see will that work
[10:03] <gry> yes, but not for all formats
[10:03] <gry> some people upload videos in formats which html5 does not read
[10:03] <karab44> yep, they mentioned that when enabling
[10:04] <karab44> this is weird because YT does many things to video when uploading. Why can't just convert all things to one, unified format
[10:04] <LordNikon55> gry: Youtube will automatically convert videos to a suitable format
[10:05] <SimonJai_> so i'm running Ubuntu 12.10 desktop, with 4 x 3TB HDD (zfs) and samba
[10:05] <SimonJai_> transfer speeds are terrible ><
[10:05] <SimonJai_> (i know i should run LTS server)
[10:05] <karab44> Media Source Extensions
[10:05] <karab44> Uwaga
[10:05] <karab44> MSE & H.264
[10:05] <karab44> Uwaga
[10:05] <karab44> MSE & WebM VP9
[10:05] <karab44>  
[10:05] <unopaste> karab44 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[10:05] <SimonJai_> iperf gives me ~800Mbps, but Samba getting <10MB/s
[10:06] <SimonJai_> any suggestions how to debug?
[10:06] <Ben64> SimonJai_: well 12.10 is EOL, so you need to upgrade
[10:06] <SimonJai_> yeah i might do it this weekend to 14.04 LTS
[10:06] <SimonJai_> not sure what may break... better do a clonezilla backup
[10:07] <karab44> these formats actualy are not served by html5 player.
[10:07] <karab44> and setting html5 player enabled means "use it whenever possible"
[10:08] <karab44> ill give it a try. It seems it runs more smoothly than flash
[10:10] <StuckInComplicat> Hi. Ubuntu boots to a black screen. HP Pavilion 15-n003tx (http://www8.hp.com/in/en/products/laptops/product-detail.html?oid=5422964#!tab=specs), Windows 8 (64 bit) + Ubuntu 12.04 LTS as a dual boot. Encrypted my home directory, and performed a boot-repair at time of install (Paste-bin link for the boo-repair debug dump here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6738753/).
[10:10] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|StuckInComplicat
[10:12] <karab44> It still turns off on html5 come ooon! :D
[10:16] <karab44> I don't like this locking anyway... Why anyone can suspend or power off my computer when it's locked?
[10:17] <karab44> it shouldn't be there
[10:17] <StuckInComplicat> I know I'm talking to a bot (ubottu) here- but if anyone else is listening - if the nomodeset parameter is the crux of the problem, how is it that the LiveUSB doesn't face the same problem?
[10:18] <StuckInComplicat> cfhowlett - if the nomodeset parameter is the crux of the problem, how is it that the LiveUSB doesn't face the same problem?
[10:18] <cfhowlett> StuckInComplicat EXCELLENT query!  IIRC, live session uses some form of "universal translator" driver which is NOT in use during actual installation.
[10:18] <gry> karab44, hello, one minute please.
[10:19] <LordNikon55> karab44: It's pointless to disallow power off when locked, as someone can still pull out the plug
[10:19] <StuckInComplicat> cfhowlett - I vote for incorporating that driver in ALL installations :D
[10:19] <cfhowlett> StuckInComplicat :)  understood
[10:20] <karab44> LordNikon55: not when workstation is hidden in a safe
[10:21] <karab44> these functions should be password protected as well.
[10:21] <gry> karab44, you may need to open »/etc/gdm/gdm.conf« as root and edit the AllowLogoutActions line. There is a guide at https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=927819 but it may be outdated - please read to get an idea, but look at the file carefully.
[10:21] <karab44> gry: thank you :)
[10:21] <StuckInComplicat> cfhowlett - So the thing with my issue is, I think it does boot Ubuntu because I can type in my password, and then move the mouse to the top-right, press the up-arrow once, press Enter twice, and shut down! Atleast, it used to let me do that. But now it doesn't seem to be doing so. I went through the suggested fix, but I'm still nervous about breaking acpi
[10:21] <LordNikon55> So that's what computer security means, putting your computer in a safe
[10:21] <karab44> hahahaha yeah :)
[10:22] <ikonia> isn't gdm.conf dead now ?
[10:22] <karab44> attacking is not only done by cyberattacks but interception as well :)
[10:22] <cfhowlett> StuckInComplicat pose your original question again - someone with more knowledge than I (and there are many) will know more.
[10:22] <StuckInComplicat> cfhowlett - yeah.. I guess. Hence the IRC nick :D
[10:23] <gry> ikonia: What is the more modern way now? I don't have gdm installed, I don't know. A web search did not give me anything better.
[10:24] <karab44> it's something like lightgdm or something
[10:24] <Ben64> lightdm
[10:24] <karab44> yes
[10:25] <StuckInComplicat> I've an Ubuntu 12.04 dual boot (along with Win8). Ubuntu is either booting into a black screen, or not booting at all. During the time of the original installation, I'd encrypted my home folder - and as a result, I'm unable to access the Ubuntu files from a LiveUSB session. (Don't think there's anything there - but I'd like to confirm, before I erase Ubuntu and install again). IF that continues to not work, I'll use nomode
[10:25] <ikonia> gry: I /think/ it's modular now, I've not got it on this box so can't check, but there are some xml files in /etc/gdm.conf.d or something like that,
[10:25] <ikonia> gry: I've not got a box with it on so can't check, but I "think" gdm.conf is gone now.
[10:26] <StuckInComplicat> 1. Anyone have any suggestions on how to view files from an encrypted home drive? 2. Any other methods to fix "boot to black screen" other than nomodeset?
[10:26] <ikonia> StuckInComplicat: change it the vesa xorg driver ?
[10:26] <gry> Ouch. I never learned to work with those *.d things. I hope they don't migrate from plain .conf files to that.
[10:26] <gry> karab44: What display manager are you using? Could you please doublecheck? "lightgdm" is ambiguous.
[10:26] <ikonia> lightgdm is lightdm ?
[10:26] <StuckInComplicat> ikonia - I don't understand..
[10:26] <ikonia> (which isn't gdm)
[10:27] <ikonia> StuckInComplicat: you can force xorg to use the "vesa" xorg module
[10:27] <karab44> I guess I meant lightdm
[10:27] <OttifantSir> I'd like to try the latest Enlightenment (E19), and looked at this: http://ubuntuportal.com/2014/06/how-to-install-enlightenment-19-desktop-environment-in-ubuntu-14-04-lts.html , but there is no instructions for the PGP-key. Anyone know how to add it?
[10:27] <LordNikon55> I wouldn't say lightdm is more "modern" than gdm, it does a whole lot less. Accessibility for instance
[10:27] <StuckInComplicat> ikonia - a) How? b) What does the vesa xorg module do?
[10:27] <ikonia> I didn't see anyone see it was modedern LordNikon55
[10:28] <ikonia> StuckInComplicat: I'm going to guess you have an nvidia graphics card ?
[10:29] <StuckInComplicat> ikonia - Nope. AMD Radeon
[10:29] <ikonia> bad guess then
[10:29] <ikonia> StuckInComplicat: either way the vesa xorg module is a "fail safe" low performance video card driver that should work with every single card, but not have good performance
[10:30] <StuckInComplicat> ikonia - Booting in recovery mode should also revert to a low performance, basics only mode right? When I select ubuntu recovery mode first, and then proceed with the normal boot - it doesn't boot.. it throws up an error.
[10:31] <syeekick> ping me if you use steam libary family shaaring i've got a few questions
[10:31] <ikonia> StuckInComplicat: "throws up an error" is not helpful,
[10:31] <ikonia> syeekick: use the steam channel
[10:31] <ikonia> StuckInComplicat: tell us more about the error problem, that is helpful
[10:32] <antonio__> Hey folks...
[10:32] <StuckInComplicat> ikonia - haha.. my bad. But I'm on the same machine, on Windows 8. I'd restart and quote the error, but from memory, I think it was something about some network connection failing... Does cli error, or soemthing like it ring a bell?
[10:32] <antonio__> For some reason a LOT of links I visit on this Ubuntu machine are having some weird characters added to the end...like in this link http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn25723-massive-ocean-discovered-towards-earths-core.html#.U5rLf3LabLc
[10:33] <ikonia> that should not have any impact on your visual issues
[10:33] <ikonia> antonio__: didn't you ask about this the other day
[10:33] <StuckInComplicat> ikonia - I thought so too. But that's the last diagnostic message it prints to the the screen...before getting stuck
[10:33] <antonio__> ikonia: I think I did..I also think I passed out at the computer :d
[10:33] <ikonia> StuckInComplicat: also boot into single user mode
[10:34] <gurgle> hey, i've just created a RAID 5 array using mdadm and it's currently being built (at about 50%), if i reboot will this break this process or will it pick up where it left off?
[10:34] <ikonia> antonio__: that is not ubuntu doing that
[10:34] <ikonia> antonio__: it's happening on other operating systems too,
[10:34] <ikonia> it looks like it's part of the website
[10:34] <ikonia> gurgle: let it finish
[10:34] <gurgle> ok great, thanks
[10:35] <antonio__> so other people have reported this?
[10:35] <StuckInComplicat> antonia__ : http://technicalblogging.com/getting-rid-of-random-characters-appended-to-the-urls-of-your-wordpress-posts/
[10:35] <ikonia> antonio__: there is nothing to report
[10:35] <StuckInComplicat> dammit typo
[10:35] <StuckInComplicat> antonio__ : http://technicalblogging.com/getting-rid-of-random-characters-appended-to-the-urls-of-your-wordpress-posts/
[10:36] <StuckInComplicat> ikonia - I didn't even know you could select a different boot mode - in terms of single or multiple users. How d'you do that?
[10:36] <ikonia> StuckInComplicat: there should be a boot menu item for it in grub, however I'd suggest just appending "single" to the bootline
[10:36] <ikonia> Air-: please don't message the channel.
[10:36] <ikonia> Air-: just talk in the channel, no need to send notices
[10:37] <justanothernoob> hello, I'm trying to install ubuntu on a pretty old machine. sadly the disk-drive doesn't work that well. it gives out some error 1000 crap. for some reason it handlex knoppix fine. I downloaded the ubuntu .iso with knoppix. can I use this .iso to install ubuntu without having to burn it first, directly out of knoppix?
[10:37] <Air-> ok
[10:37] <Air-> sorry
[10:37] <Air-> i need one root for scan :( can you help me?
[10:37] <Ben64> Air-: what does that mean
[10:37] <cfhowlett> !install|justanothernoob there is a method to install ubuntu from a previous linux install
[10:37] <ikonia> Air-: need root on what ? scan what ?
[10:38] <Air-> scan another roots ;)
[10:38] <StuckInComplicat> ikonia, cfhowlett - alright.. thanks. Going to reboot and check now.
[10:38]  * cfhowlett thinks this sounds flakey
[10:38] <ikonia> Air-: scan other roots ? please what are you talking about, what are you trying to do
[10:39] <OttifantSir> I'd like to try the latest Enlightenment (E19), and looked at this: http://ubuntuportal.com/2014/06/how-to-install-enlightenment-19-desktop-environment-in-ubuntu-14-04-lts.html , but there is no instructions for the PGP-key. Anyone know how to add it?
[10:40] <lotuspsychje> !info e17 | OttifantSir
 I said E19, not E17.
[10:40] <ikonia> OttifantSir: I suggest you talk to the bodhilinux people, it's their repos for their distro
[10:41] <OttifantSir> ikonia: I have asked, but there is no activity
[10:41] <ikonia> OttifantSir: then wait for them to respond
[10:42] <g105b> I have a few hundred GB of data synced in an Amazon S3 bucket using OwnCloud instead of UbuntuOne ... my question is what apps are there to stream the music collection from the S3 bucket?
[10:42] <OttifantSir> ikonia: Thanks for nothing
[10:42] <ikonia> welcome
[10:44] <ObrienDave> welcome for free
[10:44] <Air-> I WANT IP, USER , PASS
[10:44] <Air-> i want to scan roots
[10:44] <cfhowlett> Air- we want you to DROP THE CAPS ...
[10:44] <ikonia> Air-: ok, you don't make sense with what you ask
[10:45] <ikonia> Air-: are you trying to crack peoples passwords ?
[10:45] <LordNikon55> Air-: Try #fruitloops
[10:45] <cfhowlett> Air- we are not going to help you crack passwords.  wrong channel
[10:45]  * ObrienDave agrees with cfhowlett's earlier interpretation
[10:48] <dine909> hi there, i'm trying to get the settings panel for ubuntu to launch from terminal over X
[10:49] <gry> Someone here was looking for lightdm power/shutdown changes? Client crashed, I lost nick.
[10:49] <sfn> I have installed LXLE 14.04 ,how to install the Wicd network manager to the Panel?
[10:49] <dine909> does anyone know the name of the command?
[10:49] <Air-> lol
[10:49] <gry> sfn: Install wicd-gtk.
[10:49] <Air-> ;))
[10:49] <gry> sfn:  When you run wicd-gtk it adds itself to tray icon automatically.
[10:50] <gry> dine909: Which one?
[10:50] <lotuspsychje> sfn: do have trouble getting nm-applet maybe?
[10:50] <dine909> the entire setting s panel for ubuntu
[10:50] <dine909> namely the display settings
[10:50] <sfn> Ok thanks let me try now
[10:50] <dine909> as i have removed unity
[10:51] <gry> lotuspsychje, it is a different question - different software.
[10:51] <lotuspsychje> gry: im asking, because there's a known issue on nm-applet not to startup on lubuntu
[10:52] <lotuspsychje> gry: maybe thats why he searches for alternative
[10:52] <gry> Then ask about the real issue please. It would make more sense.
[10:53] <dine909> gry, i would have thought it would be one of the gnome- apps but i cant see one that fits the description
[10:54] <gry> lotuspsychje,  sorry, I see your point. You were trying to ask someone whether that's their real issue. That does make sense.
[10:54] <gry> dine909, there is a settings "panel"?
[10:55] <dine909> s/panel/application
[10:55] <sfn> I have tried "sudo apt-get install wicd-gtk", it is not added to the tray
[10:56] <dine909> the app that contains all the 'settings' - y'know, the one that looks like they ripped off osx
[10:56] <histo> sfn: you have to run the application for it to show in the tray
[10:57] <histo> sfn: wicd-client --tray
[10:57] <dine909> this app: http://iloveubuntu.net/pictures_me/system_settings%20symbolic%20123.png
[10:57] <gry> sfn: You have to start it, it does not start when you install. Run "wicd-gtk" in Terminal.
[10:57] <gry> dine909: I see.
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> histo: that multisystem usb creator worked out nicely the other day, got 6 iso's on 1 stick now: lubuntu,ubuntu and xubuntu both 32 and 64bit
[10:58] <histo> sfn: it should also create an autostart file in /etc/xdg/autostart/wicd-tray.deskop that should start on your login
[10:58] <histo> lotuspsychje: cool, sad that there was so much trouble with it. It shouldn't have been that difficult.
[10:59] <gry> dine909: gnome-control-center probably.
[10:59] <Titussss> hello i have one question. how to remove permamently  desktop enviroment?
[10:59] <cfhowlett> !nounity|Titussss
[11:00] <cfhowlett> !flavors|Titussss you could also try a different flavor for no unity
[11:00] <gry> cfhowlett, not the question? Or am I mistaken?
[11:00]  * gry head desks.
[11:00] <Titussss> I want to remove xfcace(xubuntu)
[11:00] <Titussss> and  want to restore unity login screen
[11:00] <sfn> Thanks, now icon is added to the tray
[11:00] <Titussss> from that xubuntu one
[11:01] <Titussss> mine sys is Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[11:01] <dine909> gry, thanks - i see whats happened, it got removed when i removed unity then did an apt-get autoremove
[11:02] <gry> dine909, did the package I mentioned actually do what you expect? I'm not 100% sure it's the correct package name. Would be interested in your word.
[11:02] <sfn> Thanks histo and gry, now icon is added to the tray
[11:03] <dine909> gry, yes precisely ! thanks very much
[11:03] <gry> dine909, sfn: No problem. Feel free to stick around if it doesn't bother you.
[11:03] <dupingping> http://askubuntu.com/questions/482734/yelp-package-building-problem
[11:03] <dupingping> why this problem is occurred?
[11:04] <dine909> thanks will do!
[11:04] <histo> dupingping: looks like because you are building it within screen
[11:04] <dupingping> then, what do i do?
[11:04] <histo> dupingping: is there a reason you are building it from source?
[11:05] <histo> !info yelp precise
[11:05] <sfn> thanks gry. I will
[11:05] <Titussss>  I want to remove xfcace(xubuntu)  and  want to restore unity login screen   from that xubuntu one
[11:05] <piliman974> Hi
[11:06] <histo> !pureubuntu | Titussss
[11:07] <six86> Hey. I installed ubuntu on a carPC and the Network interfaces are called p1p1 and p4p1... Thats strange. How can i change them easily? In Ubuntu 12.04 they were correctly named eth0 and eth1.
[11:07] <lotuspsychje> six86: its device related, had a user with same issue last time
[11:08] <lotuspsychje> six86: you get this automatic
[11:08] <histo> six86: lotuspsychje just wait until systemd gets here
[11:08] <Titussss> i want to remove just some desktop envroments not all
[11:08] <six86> lotuspsychje: so its a regression since 12.04?
[11:08] <lamrz> hello everyone, I just recovered keyring files and pasted them into keyring folder of the system, which is an existing system, where I'd once viewed them before, too. but now the password, while correct, isnt accepted. assuming the file has been recovered intact, where could the problem be lying?
[11:09] <histo> Titussss: those directions are specific for removing xfce is that not what you wanted to do?
[11:09] <anton03> why does multiple monitors on ubuntu behaviour in an inept way
[11:09] <histo> !details | anton03
[11:10] <anton03> eg. if you drag firefox/youtube onto the 2nd screen from main screen it's too hard
[11:10] <histo> six86: not a regression http://www.itworld.com/software/348313/change-network-adapter-name-ubuntu
[11:10] <ObrienDave> anton03, because it does not work like windows ;)
[11:11] <histo> anton03: what's too hard?
[11:11] <six86> histo: I have to install it onaround 20 boxes... so changing it manually... i don't know
[11:11] <histo> six86: why worry about changing it?
[11:12] <six86> maybe there's no problem, but I read some software depends on it being eth0. And we have another project where we are using 12.04 with the same boxes, so people get confused
[11:13] <histo> six86: Are all these installs on the same hardware?
[11:13] <six86> histo: yes. Only the ubuntu version differs
[11:14] <histo> six86: ahh well you could push that file out to all the installs. Keep in mind this http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/  is coming in the future also.
[11:14] <Titussss> is that cmmands will install from scratch whole unity?
[11:14] <anton03> histo: it can't be done
[11:14] <Titussss> or just unistall one enviroment
[11:14] <anton03> histo: not too easily anyway
[11:14] <Titussss> such as xubuntu-deskto
[11:14] <histo> anton03: Do you have it set as one desktop or two?
[11:15] <histo> Titussss: you asked about removing xfce correct?  the section on that page titled Remove Xubuntu is what you want.
[11:15] <histo> Titussss: or you can just remove the xfce packages and leave all the abiword etc.. stuff behind
[11:16] <Titussss> histo: sudo apt-get remove abiword abiword-common abiword-plugin-grammar abiword-plugin-mathview alacarte bison blueman brltty-x11 catfish espeak exo-utils flex fonts-droid fonts-lyx gigolo gmusicbrowser gnome-system-tools gnome-time-admin gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs gthumb gthumb-data gtk2-engines-pixbuf indicator-application-gtk2 indicator-sound-gtk2 leafpad libabiword-2.9 libbison-dev libdigest-crc-perl libexo-1-0 libexo-common libexo-helpers libfl-dev
[11:16] <Titussss> libgarcon-1-0 libgarcon-common libgdome2-0 libgdome2-cpp-smart0c2a libglade2-0 libgnomevfs2-0 libgnomevfs2-common libgnomevfs2-extra libgsf-1-114 libgsf-1-common libgstreamer-perl libgtk2-notify-perl libgtk2-trayicon-perl libgtkmathview0c2a libgtkspell0 libido-0.1-0 libindicate-gtk3 libintl-perl libjpeg-progs libjpeg-turbo-progs libkeybinder0 liblink-grammar4 libloudmouth1-0 libnet-dbus-perl liboobs-1-5 libotr2 libots0 librarian0 libsexy2 libtagc0 lib
[11:16] <Titussss> thunarx-2-0 libtidy-0.99-0 libtie-ixhash-perl libtumbler-1-0 libunique-1.0-0 libvte-common libvte9 libwv-1.2-4 libxfce4ui-1-0 libxfce4ui-utils libxfce4util-bin libxfce4util-common libxfce4util6 libxfcegui4-4 libxfconf-0-2 libxml-parser-perl libxml-twig-perl libxml-xpath-perl lightdm-gtk-greeter link-grammar-dictionaries-en m4 orage parole pastebinit pavucontrol pidgin pidgin-data pidgin-libnotify pidgin-microblog pidgin-otr plymouth-theme-xubuntu-logo
[11:16] <Titussss>  plymouth-theme-xubuntu-text python-configobj rarian-compat ristretto screensaver-default-images scrollkeeper shimmer-themes system-tools-backends tcl8.5 thunar thunar-archive-plugin thunar-data thunar-media-tags-plugin thunar-volman ttf-droid tumbler tumbler-common xbrlapi xchat xchat-common xfburn xfce-keyboard-shortcuts xfce4-appfinder xfce4-cpugraph-plugin xfce4-dict xfce4-indicator-plugin xfce4-mailwatch-plugin xfce4-netload-plugin xfce4-notes xf
[11:16] <anton03> histo: two
[11:16] <Titussss> ce4-notes-plugin xfce4-notifyd xfce4-panel xfce4-places-plugin xfce4-power-manager xfce4-power-manager-data xfce4-quicklauncher-plugin xfce4-screenshooter xfce4-session xfce4-settings xfce4-systemload-plugin xfce4-taskmanager xf
[11:16] <Titussss> that will erease? ok ill try
[11:16] <bcvery> !paste | Titussss
[11:16] <cfhowlett> Titussss dude!  wall of text alert!  that's why god invented pastebin
[11:16] <ObrienDave> LOL
[11:16] <Titussss> sorry:)
[11:17] <Titussss> http://pastebin.com/99U6WELk
[11:17] <Titussss> last line = install unity? right?
[11:19] <Titussss> do xfce shares some direvcotires with other desktop enviroments like lubuntu , lqt and others?
[11:19] <murr4y> hi, i can't find package gir1.2-gexiv2 - how do i add it to apt-cache?
[11:20] <lotuspsychje> Titussss: why dont you make your life easy and reinstall ubuntu clean
[11:20] <histo> Titussss: what is your question?
[11:22] <Titussss> beacasue i do not want to loose all data
[11:22] <Titussss> thats why i dont nwant t install clean ubuntu
[11:22] <cfhowlett> Titussss put your data in a dedicated /home.  done
[11:22] <dine909> i hate nvidia - thats all.
[11:22] <cfhowlett> !home| Titussss
[11:22] <_[myth> nVIDIA, f*** you! - Linus Torvalds -
[11:23] <bcvery> !ot | _[myth, venting/ranting here
[11:23] <cfhowlett> _[myth offtopic and profane - both not permitted here.
[11:24] <Titussss> what about other DE like lqt . They r sharing some files?
[11:24] <_[myth> Sorry for being impolite..
[11:24] <cfhowlett> _[myth ask your ubuntu questions?
[11:25] <allstarsnorks2> Hello there. Just asking, How do I install GNOME 3.12 in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS?
[11:25] <allstarsnorks2> GNOME 3.10 is also fine
[11:25] <Kvrmurthy> Previously there were sessions to teach people about packaging and development here in this channel
[11:25] <cfhowlett> !packaging
[11:26] <Kvrmurthy> Are these still being done?
[11:26] <cfhowlett> Kvrmurthy read the wiki
[11:26] <six86> where is the logic behind "p4p1 and p1p1" as device names? It should be the same Controller and has two ports?!
[11:27] <Titussss> how to set guake to start with login on ubuntu?
[11:28] <Kvrmurthy> Cfhowlett Those live sessions are stopped or still in action?
[11:28] <cfhowlett> Kvrmurthy I've no idea ...
[11:28] <Kvrmurthy> :) okay
[11:30] <allstarsnorks2> how do i install GNOME 3.10 on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS?
[11:31] <ObrienDave> upgrade to 14.04 LTS?
[11:33] <rika> hello. i'm facing strange issue when using openssh client (OpenSSH_6.6.1p1, Xubuntu 14.04). With this (http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7638427/) ~/.ssh/config when I connect to vm I get error "bind: Address already in use channel_setup_fwd_listener: cannot listen to port: 64512". however, when I use this (http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7638437/) ~/.ssh/config everything works fine. could someone please check if it's only my problem?
[11:34] <zergut> hello, how to create USB for win8 installation from Ubuntu?
[11:35] <ObrienDave> unetbootin, tuxboot, startup disk creator? take your pick?
[11:37] <zergut> ObrienDave: is it correct ot use it for win8?
[11:37] <ObrienDave> dunno, don't see why it shouldn't work with a bootable ISO
[11:39] <zergut> ObrienDave: thank you
[11:39] <dkorras> Hi All. I have downloaded the Ubuntu Server 14.04 ISO but when I compile a bootable USB stick with it and attempt to install it on my server, it won't get past selecting a mirror unless I connect to the internet and then it takes about 1 hour to install
[11:39] <dkorras> how can i get the USB to install the server wihtout needing the internet?
[11:40] <lostlogin> Is this channels log online anywhere?   I ;m not sure how to check if anyone responded to my previous questions and my client was not tracking enough history.
[11:40] <cfhowlett> !pxe|dkorras
[11:41] <bcvery> !logs | lostlogin
[11:41] <cfhowlett> !ltsp
[11:41] <cfhowlett> dkorras see above
[11:41] <lostlogin> I did just find byt starting to log in by hand that the user that is unable to log in is able to log in after I recreated the home dir from skel.  I just forgot to chown the home dir back to that user so .Xauthority could not be locked.
[11:41] <dkorras> cfhowlett, pxe?
[11:42] <cfhowlett> dkorras yes.  an installatiton method which (as I understand) allows you to set a local mirror i.e. your ISO for mass deployment
[11:42] <gradis> hello
[11:42] <lostlogin> Still not sure what has stopped the login though.  I am guessing it has to do with the path not being set.  perhpas something in my bashrc...
[11:42] <cfhowlett> dkorras if that's what you need ...
[11:42] <histo> allstarsnorks2: check if it's in backports or if there is a ppa available.
[11:43] <cfhowlett> gradis greetings.  ask your ubuntu question
[11:43] <dkorras> cfhowlett, i didnt see anything ? only LTSP and lostlogin?
[11:43] <dkorras> !pxe
[11:44] <ytrezq> Hello, How I can convert a flv video to mp4 in debian?
[11:44] <cfhowlett> ytrezq ask in #debian
[11:44] <histo> zergut: format the USB as fat32 and mount the windows iso to a loopback device then copy the files over. Mark the drive as bootable and your good
[11:44] <dkorras> no thats not what i am looking for.
[11:44] <ytrezq> Hello, How I can convert a flv video to mp4 in ubuntu?
[11:45] <ytrezq> cfhowlett: (sorry)
[11:45] <histo> ytrezq: use 0one of the many video converters
[11:45] <ikonia> ytrezq: ask in the #debian channel -
[11:45] <cfhowlett> ytrezq avconv will do  iit
[11:45] <dkorras> I have an ISO on a USB but it wont install unless the internet is connect to this PC
[11:45] <zergut> histo: thank you
[11:45] <histo> dkorras: choose not to update packages during the installation
[11:45] <dkorras> i.e: it's downloading all the files from the internet instead of the ISO
[11:45] <cfhowlett> dkorras sorry.  then disconnect your internet and install.  you'll still need to set a mirror and connect if you want upgrades
[11:45] <histo> dkorras: there's a checkbox for that.
[11:46] <dkorras> which is taking forever to install, i need it to install ONLY from the USB/ISO
[11:46] <ytrezq> cfhowlett: I'm just looking for a simple command line tool...
[11:46] <ikonia> ytrezq: are you using debian or ubuntu
[11:46] <ikonia> ytrezq: which OS are you using
[11:46] <ikonia> ytrezq: please be honest
[11:46] <cfhowlett> ytrezq avconv is simple command line tool
[11:46] <dkorras> this is Ubuntu server, not Desktop.
[11:47] <cfhowlett> ytrezq what is the output of cat /etc/issue
[11:47] <dkorras> there is no option to not install updates as far as i can see
[11:47] <histo> dkorras: unplug the net and install
[11:48] <dkorras> histo, doesnt work i have tried
[11:48] <cfhowlett> dkorras nah, man.  if there's not internet, there's no updates ...
[11:49] <histo> dkorras: Are you using the net install iso or the server iso?
[11:49] <ssddkkaall> hi all
[11:50] <dkorras> under expert mode: Download installer components
[11:50] <dkorras> didn't i down the correct ISO?
[11:50] <histo> dkorras: how big is the iso?
[11:50] <cfhowlett> dkorras mini or net install ISO then
[11:50] <cfhowlett> dkorras looks like not ...
[11:50] <cfhowlett> ssddkkaall ask your ubuntu questions
[11:50] <ssddkkaall> first
[11:50] <dkorras> as far as I know the Server ISO, but it seems as if it's the NET ISO
[11:50] <histo> dkorras: I can assure you the server iso has everything needed to install and more on the iso without network needed
[11:51] <dkorras> its 564MB
[11:51] <histo> dkorras: yeah that's the net iso
[11:51] <ssddkkaall> how easy it to upgrafe from natty to the most recent version
[11:51] <dkorras> where do i get the Server ISO
[11:51] <histo> dkorras: ubuntu.com
[11:51] <cfhowlett> ssddkkaall download trust, clean install   easy.
[11:51] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade|ssddkkaall otherwise a huge PITA
[11:51] <histo> dkorras: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
[11:52] <dkorras> i completely understand, but i got this off the Ubuntu website, under the Server download section
[11:52] <cfhowlett> ytrezq keep it in channel
[11:52] <ytrezq> cfhowlett: It don't matter
[11:53] <cfhowlett> dkorras there are multiple OS's - you just grabbed the wrong one.  it happens
[11:53] <dkorras> i thought something wasn't right as i have insatlled many ubuntu server and this is the first one giving me this issue
[11:53] <ytrezq> (for debian or ubuntu)
[11:54] <dkorras> that's where I am and once i download it, it downloads the net ISO not the full
[11:54] <cfhowlett> dkorras you selected the NET iso, not the full ISO.  read the details
[11:55] <dkorras> http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ubuntu-14.04-server-amd64.iso = 564MB from ubuntu.com
[11:56] <histo> ytrezq: mencoder?
[11:56] <histo> ytrezq: or ffmpeg
[11:56] <cfhowlett> ytrezq what is the output of cat /etc/issue
[11:57] <dkorras> please can you send me the full URL to an ISO you can get, i want to see if the SA mirrors are messing with me
[11:57] <histo> dkorras: 64bit or 32bit?
[11:57] <dkorras> when i go to Ubuntu.com, Downloads>Server>ARM is where it takes me
[11:58] <dkorras> 64bit please
[12:00] <ytrezq> 64 bts
[12:00] <ytrezq> 64 bits
[12:00] <histo> dkorras: http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ubuntu-14.04-server-amd64.iso
[12:00] <allstarsnorks2> Ubuntu 12.04.4 is giving me GNOME 2 instead of GNOME 3.4 though
[12:00] <histo> !info gnome precise
[12:01] <histo> allstarsnorks2: what package are you trying to install?
[12:01] <allstarsnorks2> gnome-shell histo
[12:02] <histo> allstarsnorks2: do you have a weird ppa enabled or something because it's 3.4
[12:02] <histo> !info gnome-shell precise | allstarsnorks2
[12:02] <dkorras> is 564MB correct because that's the ISo i am getting as well as on a mirror in UK
[12:02] <FourFire> heheh http://i.imgur.com/l7YAqJy.jpg
[12:03] <etronik> Hi everyone - got a couple issues with recent upgrade to 14.04, a) does not recognize a wireless mouse... how do I configure it ?
[12:03] <cfhowlett> !md5sum|dkorras 564 is the correct size.  verify the ISO, then verify the USB
[12:03] <histo> dkorras: yeah that's coorect 564M
[12:04] <histo> dkorras: here's the hashes http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/MD5SUMS
[12:05] <dkorras> many thanks
[12:06] <Ezzio> hello i want to ask u why rythm box pause music while i am using media keys such as forward ?
[12:07] <cfhowlett> Ezzio so many variables, hard to choose just 1
[12:07] <Ezzio> cfhowlett: i am using rythmbox
[12:07] <Ezzio> and ubuntu 14.04 lts
[12:08] <cfhowlett> Ezzio low ram could cause this, too many other apps running, multimedia keys not properly installed ...
[12:08] <Ezzio> ill try if its happening with other shortcut
[12:09] <Ezzio> its happenning also with other shrtcut
[12:10] <cfhowlett> Ezzio how much ram?
[12:10] <Ezzio> 8 gb
[12:10] <cfhowlett> Ezzio so not a ram issue.
[12:11] <Ezzio> yeah i gues so but it would be helpfull using multiumedia keys;/
[12:11] <Ezzio> mby should i use other player?
[12:11] <cfhowlett> Ezzio I'd suggest your sudo apt-get purge rhythmbox then reinstall it to test
[12:12] <histo> Ezzio: check your key mappings
[12:12] <Ezzio> which mp3 player do you use?
[12:13] <Ezzio> how i can do dis?
[12:14] <histo> Ezzio: music on console here
[12:14] <dkorras> i have done a HASH comparison and it matches the Server version
[12:14] <Ezzio> i do not undestand:)
[12:15] <cfhowlett> dkorras disconnect internet.  reinstall
[12:16] <etronik> guys, I plug my wireless logitech mouse and nothing happens... help TIA
[12:16] <CrypticByte> There is xubuntu, kubuntu, lubuntu, is there a MATE version?
[12:16] <ikonia> CrypticByte: no
[12:16] <cfhowlett> !flavors|CrypticByte
[12:18] <dkorras> No network devices were found, The installation systm was unable to find a network device. Red screen
[12:18] <cfhowlett> dkorras red screen?  RED screen?  that ain't an ubuntu feature.
[12:19] <The0x539> dammit malwarebytes trial. expire altready
[12:19] <The0x539> eugh, wrong network
[12:20] <dkorras> on the installlation there is normal;ly a purple background, it changes to red
[12:20] <cfhowlett> dkorras screenshot
[12:20] <cfhowlett> !paste | dkorras
[12:21] <Eggs_> !pastebinit
[12:23] <histo> dkorras: then just continue
[12:24] <dkorras> it wont let me
[12:24] <dkorras> i will send you the pics now
[12:25] <dkorras> http://imagebin.org/313581
[12:25]  * histo downloads server iso to fire up vm with no network
[12:26] <histo> dkorras: select go back
[12:26] <dkorras> the image i downloaded was this HASH: 01545fa976c8367b4f0d59169ac4866c
[12:26] <histo> ffs
[12:26] <dkorras> http://imagebin.org/313583
[12:27] <histo> dkorras: keep clicking go back
[12:29] <dkorras> http://imagebin.org/313584
[12:30] <histo> dkorras: did you configure network?
[12:30] <dkorras> no i have it unplugged
[12:31] <dkorras> as you have instructed me to
[12:31] <histo> dkorras: did you boot with it unplugged?
[12:31] <dkorras> a complete shutdown and remove power and and re start with NO network plugged in
[12:31] <histo> dkorras: I'm almost done downloading the iso 3min eta
[12:31] <dkorras> you lucky you have a decent connection, here it takes +/- 2 -4 hours
[12:32] <Ezzio> any1 can tell me how to use ssh to connect with  home machine?
[12:32] <ikonia> Ezzio: you just ssh to it's hostname or IP address
[12:32] <ikonia> as long as dns resolves it and there is a network route - that's it
[12:33] <histo> Ezzio: from the outside world?
[12:33] <Nille02> hallo, ich wünsche einen schönen freitag mittag
[12:33] <Nille02> fc
[12:33] <ikonia> !de | Nille02
[12:34] <Nille02> thanks
[12:34] <Ezzio> i want to connect
[12:34] <Ezzio> in that way
[12:34] <Ezzio> server mine pc computer
[12:34] <Ezzio> and windows phone as a guest
[12:35] <histo> Ezzio: port forward ssh to your computer on your router,  then from whatever client ssh username@youripaddress
[12:35] <LordNikon55> Ezzio: You need a static IP ideally, or use a service like http://www.noip.com/free/
[12:35] <Ezzio> but i have problematic issue with mine  net
[12:35] <Ezzio> i do not have router.... i gues
[12:36] <phacele55> anyone good with php? or know a good php help channel? having issues
[12:36] <histo> Ezzio: how are you connected to the internet?
[12:36] <LordNikon55> phacele55: #web
[12:36] <histo> !alis > phacele55
[12:36] <Ezzio> buecause i have radio net...
[12:36] <histo> dkorras: trying now hold up
[12:36] <dkorras> no problem, thank you
[12:36] <Ezzio> from the devbice on top of house directly to motherboard
[12:37] <Sm21> POPE
[12:37] <Ezzio> afk 10 min.
[12:37] <jechadwell99> After an update this morning Unity has no launcher or panel. I cannot use any terminal. I reset Compiz using the manager but still nothing happens.
[12:37] <phacele55> LordNIkon55: I have been all over google, only found one snippet but still wasn't that helpful
[12:37] <Sm21> ubuntu sux
[12:38] <gry> sm21: why did he come here?
[12:38] <The0x539> unity sux
[12:38] <Sm21> unity sux
[12:38] <histo> dkorras: are you doing just a regular install?
[12:38] <The0x539> ubuntu does not
[12:38] <dkorras> correct
[12:38] <Sm21> ubuntu is a fanboy OS
[12:38] <Sm21> its lost touch
[12:38] <histo> Sm21: do you have a ubuntu related question?
[12:38] <gry> sm21: welcome to reality and thank you, you now can tweak it and fix whatever you actually dislike and find impossible to configure
[12:38] <Sm21> i have the balls to say what everyone is thinking
[12:39] <gry> sm21: rants are the next door
[12:39] <gry> sm21: not in here please :)
[12:39] <jechadwell99> I can log in as another user but not as my main user.
[12:40] <histo> !ops Sm21
[12:40] <jechadwell99> Can someone please help?
[12:41] <histo> dkorras: regular install is working fine. Let me try enabling network hardware but not a connection.
[12:41] <ytrezq> cfhowlett : Ok I used vlc...
[12:41] <jechadwell99> Im really stuck with this and need to do work.
[12:42] <dkorras> could it be because on this particular server there is a WLAN card?
[12:42] <histo> !patience | jechadwell99
[12:43] <histo> dkorras: I'm testing that right now.
[12:43] <dkorras> histo, thank you
[12:43] <jechadwell99> I searched all the forums and nothing worked
[12:44] <jechadwell99> Where are the compiz settings located?
[12:44] <jechadwell99> I could try to just copy the  over from another user.
[12:46] <CrypticByte> I swear ubuntu is slow downloading :P
[12:46] <CrypticByte> I get 105MBps I know its not my end
[12:47] <ubuntuser13> jechadwell99: can you please repeat your question?  bcoz i connected only few seconds ago.
[12:48] <histo> dkorras: ok when dhcp failed I selected do not configure network at this time and it continued
[12:48] <histo> CrypticByte: you just had a new distro released
[12:49] <histo> CrypticByte: you could try different mirrors or use a torrent if you are downloading the iso
[12:49] <dkorras> i went cancel and then do not configure network
[12:49] <histo> dkorras: yeah then it asks me for hostname, user etc...
[12:49] <dkorras> same here and then asks me to select a mirror
[12:50] <histo> dkorras: let me keep going then
[12:50] <histo> dkorras: partitioning now.
[12:50] <histo> dkorras: Are you doing expert install?
[12:51] <dkorras> no the regular install
[12:51] <histo> dkorras: well it's installing fine here.  No mirror selection yet.
[12:51] <histo> From memory that's at the end of the installation
[12:51] <dkorras> i am now trying a new USB with the ISO on
[12:53] <dkorras> new USB and ISo still the same issue
[12:54] <histo> dkorras: when is it asking you to select a mirror after it copies files?
[12:54] <histo> dkorras: and did you iso hash match that of the server iso from that link I gave you?
[12:54] <dkorras> no before, apparently it's "Dwnloading Installation files"
[12:55] <histo> dkorras: You still have a network connection then somehow.
[12:55] <histo> dkorras: maybe wlan is connecting to a nearby open network?
[12:55] <dkorras> it may be the WIfi
[12:55] <histo> dkorras: is this a wlan card or a laptop?
[12:55] <dkorras> WLAN car
[12:56] <histo> dkorras: switch tty's and ip link list
[12:56] <histo> dkorras: you could ip set wlan0 down
[12:57] <Almano> Hello how can i make pure kde plasma looks like that one from OpenSuse?
[12:57] <histo> Almano: kde-look.org
[12:58] <Almano> i am newbie so can you lead me how to? and i do not know what packages will make mine desktop similar to that opensuse. I love that loook:)
[12:58] <histo> dkorras: sorry ip link wlan0 set down
[12:58] <dkorras> brb going to try something
[12:59] <histo> Almano: you'd have to figure out what icons and backgrounds etc.. they are using. Perhaps the #kubuntu room would be more appropriate.
[12:59] <gry> Almano: many people don't know what the other distro looks like. If you find a screenshot, they may suggest it in the room histo mentioned.
[13:02] <Almano> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZhcMBJDNZc
[13:03] <Almano> i want to make ubuntu with kde like this
[13:03] <Almano> what should i do
[13:03] <Almano> ?
[13:06] <dkorras> histo, i hink i found the issue
[13:06] <histo> Almano: /join #kubuntu and ask there
[13:06] <histo> dkorras: What was it?
[13:06] <dkorras> it's YUMI
[13:06] <Almano> ok
[13:06] <dkorras> YUMI, replace the .32 files on the ISO
[13:06] <histo> dkorras: that's odd. well I couldn't even get yumi to work in linux.
[13:06] <histo> dkorras: their deb is broken as far as I can tell recently
[13:07] <dkorras> it was on my Windows PC
[13:07] <histo> dkorras: .32 files?
[13:07] <dkorras> will check now what files it removed
[13:08] <histo> dkorras: diff directory1 directory2
[13:09] <dkorras> I'm on the Windows PC now so i will tell you shortly
[13:09] <dkorras> another thing, can the ubuntu server be put in to Suspend?
[13:14] <histo> dkorras: yes with power management stuff installed. Not sure why you would want to do that.
[13:15] <dkorras> histo, the files repalced by YUMI's own files are: vesamenu.c32, mednu.32,chan.c32 all in iso\islolinux\
[13:16] <dkorras> histo, this server is for a headless media center for a client, so only when the video's are needed will the machine required to be on and the other times need to be suspended. Can you help me with that?
[13:16] <histo> dkorras: Not at them moment
[13:17] <dkorras> ok, thank you though for all your help
[13:17] <histo> dkorras: I'm sure others can if you have specific questions. There may even be a howto online somewhere. But I have to go for awhile.
[13:17] <histo> dkorras: no problem anytime.
[13:27] <cenotes> ubuntu rocks! :D
[13:28] <anton03> cenotes: why?
[13:29] <cenotes> anton03: just in general.. i love the linux kernel
[13:29] <anton03> cenotes: what about GNU
[13:30] <cenotes> anton03: haha... GNU is the system and Linux is one of its kernels ;) quoteBy: Richard Stallman
[13:31] <dkorras> can anyone help me put the Ubuntu server into suspend after no activity
[13:31] <cenotes> anton03: you know any very good teminal irc caht clients like e.g. 'weechat'
[13:33] <fellipe> hi, where is the 70-persistent-net.rules in ubuntu 12.04 server?
[13:33] <LordNikon55> cenotes: http://tools.suckless.org/ii/
[13:34] <cenotes> LordNikon55: thank you! i will take a look into that! apreciate it!
[13:34] <anton03> cenotes: you tried iirc
[13:35] <Lakii> irssi ?
[13:35] <genii> fellipe: /etc/udev/rules.d/
[13:36] <skinux> Can someone help me with merging partitions sda10 and sda12, here is a screenshot of paritions: http://imagebin.ca/v/1PinLIYz7uDS
[13:36] <fellipe> genii, yeah but there is no such file
[13:36] <anton03> cenotes: irssi i mean sorry
[13:37] <ikonia> skinux: not going to happen
[13:37] <skinux> ikonia: Helping or merging?
[13:37] <cenotes> anton03: yes, i'm looking for something lightweight that is directly within the terminal..
[13:37] <ikonia> skinux: merging
[13:37] <genii> fellipe: Perhaps you have no network adapters
[13:37] <anton03> cenotes: it runs in the terminal
[13:37] <skinux> Okay. Then I need to move sda10 to sda12.
[13:38] <ikonia> skinux: no, they are not next to each other, so can't "join" or interact with each other
[13:38] <ikonia> skinux: also what partition table format is this, gpt or msdos
[13:38] <cenotes> anton03: haven't# checkt that one ... was talking about mirc ...i will have a look into that as well. thank you!
[13:38] <skinux> Umm...Ext4?
[13:38] <ikonia> skinux: no, thats a file system
[13:39] <skinux> GPT then I guess
[13:39] <ikonia> skinux: I don't understand how you've got more than 4 parttions, but no extended partition
[13:39] <skinux> What do you mean?
[13:39] <genii> fellipe: If you have the situation where your network adapter is being called something like p2p1 or such instead of eth0 eth1 etcetera, then I'm not sure where that name is being decided from
[13:39] <ikonia> ahh, so it's a gpt partition table, not msdos
[13:39] <skinux> Ext4 is extended isn't it?
[13:39] <ikonia> I mean exactly what i've just said, is it an Msdoc partition table, or a GPT
[13:39] <anton03> cenotes: i think youll find most people choose irssi over everything else
[13:39] <ikonia> skinux: ext4 is a file system, not a partition
[13:40] <skinux> I don't know then.
[13:40] <ikonia> skinux: it appears you may have a problem with that disk,
[13:40] <cenotes> anton03: what's so special about it?
[13:40] <skinux> Machine came with Windows 8 if that helps any
[13:40] <ikonia> skinux: unless it is a gpt partition table,
[13:40] <ikonia> skinux: not really,
[13:40] <ikonia> skinux: although I suspect it's a gpt partition table
[13:40] <skinux> How do I determine which it is?
[13:41] <ikonia> parted normally shows you
[13:41] <skinux> gparted or parted?
[13:41] <ikonia> skinux: either way, you won't be mixing sda10 and 12
[13:41] <skinux> How do I get parted to tell me?
[13:42] <ikonia> when you run parted against it, it should tell you
[13:42] <skinux> 'sudo parted /dev/sda' ??
[13:42] <ikonia> yes
[13:42] <ikonia> then print
[13:43] <skinux> Yes, it's GPT
[13:43] <anton03> cenotes: im not sure. im sort of new to it myself. i've got nothing to complain about though so far.
[13:43] <skinux> I'll have to look up GPT to see what that menas
[13:44] <ikonia> skinux: it's just a name
[13:44] <skinux> I'm reading on Wikipedia about it
[13:44] <anton03> GPT = GUID partition table
[13:44] <cenotes> anton03: thank you again! i will give it a try and have fun with it, i guess :D /gracefulbow
[13:46] <skinux> So, should I move /usr/ directories to the other partition or move entire Ubuntu installation?
[13:47] <skinux> GRUB isn't installed to MBR, so moving entire installation may or may not be a chore.
[13:47] <ikonia> skinux: move /usr ???
[13:47]  * yannick hi every Body :)
[13:48] <lamrz> hello ubuntu community, I'd like to ask if dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda1 bs=4k conv=noerror    would be correct? I mean, can I use dd here for only a partition (not a full disk, as in /dev/sda) ?
[13:48] <skinux> As in, store all user applications on other partition or move Ubuntu entirely to bigger partition...
[13:48] <ikonia> skinux: there is a LOT more to applications than /usr
[13:48] <skinux> Then I guess I should move Ubuntu entirely.
[13:50] <skinux> Thing is, when I tried to copy this 30G partition to the other 60G partition, Ubuntu said it ran out of space on 60G.
[13:50] <spillere> isn't there a easy way to install a openVPN server on ubuntu to use my vps server to tunnel all my connection?
[13:51] <ikonia> ubuntu will not use 60GB
[13:51] <ikonia> that is your user data
[13:51] <cenotes> spillere: http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/457103-install-and-configure-openvpn-server-on-linux
[13:51] <spillere> cenotes thanks!
[13:51] <cenotes> spillere: you are welcome :D
[13:53] <rost> hey
[13:53] <Eggs__> q
[13:53] <rost> i need support,help in this way
[13:54] <lamrz> hello ubuntu community, I'd like to ask if dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda1 bs=4k conv=noerror    would be correct? I mean, can I use dd here for only a partition (not a full disk, as in /dev/sda) ?
[13:55] <ikonia> lamrz: you can output to a partition, sure
[13:55] <rost> i need 2 know how to set my L1 + L2 Cache  # from > write back to write through
[13:55] <JerryP> hi, i have had a weird issue on ubuntu 14.04 lately. I have been having issues with my cable internet, and when the internet goes out, so do my network adapters. I look in the top right and it says network disabled. I enable it and still cant get wifi. the only way to get it to work again is to reset the whole computer. any ideas?
[13:55] <Your_Dog> Hello guys, whats a proper way to reinstall drivers in ubuntu?
[13:55] <acalbaza_> anyone know of a tool to rename a directory to make it friendly for cifs?  i have a few dirs with illegal chars. that i want to create a cifs share for.
[13:56] <Your_Dog> I was using the additional drivers application, just in addition.
[13:56] <votheanh> live in vietnamese
[13:57] <ikonia> Your_Dog: ok, so why do you need to re-install ?
[13:57] <Pessimist> !vietnamese | votheanh
[13:57] <lamrz> ikonia, 'output to' means 'dd' a partition, I presume?
[13:57] <votheanh> ýe
[13:57] <votheanh> yes
[13:57] <ikonia> lamrz: it means output to
[13:57] <votheanh> from to vietnamese
[13:57] <Your_Dog> ikonia: I want to trigger a configuration, it only occurs during installation.
[13:57] <votheanh> working Destroy Hacking Team
[13:57] <ikonia> Your_Dog: which driver ? what configuration ?
[13:58] <ikonia> votheanh: #ubuntu (this channel) is not interested in that
[13:58] <votheanh> ubuntu 14.04LTS
[13:58] <Your_Dog> ikonia: Unfortunately, the Nvidia Graphics card, the one that chooses whether to install the 32bit libraries.
[13:58] <votheanh> Bot Net
[13:58] <votheanh> Sp
[13:58] <lamrz> ikonia, it'd be help me understand if you could tell me in a less terminological way
[13:59] <ikonia> Your_Dog: that isn't a question the additional drivers tool asks
[13:59] <ikonia> lamrz: OF= output to
[13:59] <ikonia> so you can output to a partition
[13:59] <lamrz> ....
[13:59] <Your_Dog> ikonia: well i just want to know whether its possible to reinstall a driver using that tool.
[14:00] <ikonia> Your_Dog: you shouldn't need to
[14:00] <ikonia> Your_Dog: why don't you tell us the real problem ?
[14:00] <votheanh> Hello all people
[14:00] <lamrz> can someone else answer me please?
[14:00] <votheanh> out
[14:00] <Your_Dog> ikonia: the problem relies on 32bit libraries, I can't run any gl program that is in 32bit.
[14:00] <ikonia> lamrz: what is not clear, the "of=" paramaeter is theoutput location /dev/sdb1 is a partition, so you can "output to a partition"
[14:00] <Pici> lamrz: you can output to a partition
[14:01] <ikonia> Your_Dog: that's still not telling us the problem
[14:01] <skinux> What all directories are there for user applications?
[14:02] <ikonia> skinux: it is spead out across the file system
[14:02] <skinux> I was afraid you'd say that.
[14:02] <skinux> Can Ubuntu be safely moved to another partition or do I need to install to the other partition?
[14:02] <gry> are applications not in /usr mostly with configs in /etc and logs in /var?
[14:03] <gry> I may be oversimplifying, I dunno
[14:03] <ikonia> gry: bottom line
[14:03] <lamrz> Pici what does "output to" mean, chrissakes? I asked my question in a non-tech language, saying if I could just erase simply one partition (/dev/sda1) and not the whole disk it is on (/dev/sda)...the answer is yes you can, or you cannot...dont see why you replied me 3 times with the same answer..if you mean I have to learn/know some basics, dont worry, I'm not bad at it, and yours is hardly a good way to mean it
[14:03] <ikonia> skinux: you can move ubuntu to new partitions, sure
[14:03] <Your_Dog> ikonia: Hmmh.. lets put it this way, I am running steam and everytime i open it, it complains about direct rendering disabled.
[14:03] <ikonia> Your_Dog: lets not put it this way - either tell me the problem clearly, or don't bother, I'm not interested in guessing games/hidden questions
[14:03] <Pici> lamrz: "output" isn't tech-speak in my opinion.  How about 'write to'
[14:03] <ikonia> infact, don't bother
[14:04] <Your_Dog> ikonia: I am telling you, I can't run any opengl programs that is in 32bit, that is the problem.
[14:04] <Your_Dog> ikonia: Actually nvm, thanks for helping.
[14:04] <skinux> What's strange is that after reinstalling Ubuntu onto same partition, Ubuntu said I only had 10G out of 30G available.
[14:04] <Pici> lamrz: the answer is yes. it will work the way you want.
[14:04] <lamrz> Pici thanks
[14:04] <ikonia> skinux: sounds like you're not formatting the partition so the old data is remaining
[14:04] <skinux> Ahh.
[14:05] <lamrz> one is certainly free -in the sense we have freedoms to do a lot of things- to display an attitude rather than an answer. the question is, what good is it to people seeking help?
[14:05] <ikonia> lamrz: I gave you a CLEAER answer
[14:05] <lamrz> ikonia, fair enough. thanks
[14:05] <gry> lamrz, please don't do that to channels. They are helping. You're offending the rest of the audience.
[14:06] <no_gravity> Good Afternoon! I have this usb printer connected to my machine. Printing worked fine some days ago. Today it doesnt. How do I get any information on the status of the printer or the printjob?
[14:06] <skinux> Why does Ubuntu say 60G disk is full when trying to copy contents of 30G to the 60G?
[14:06] <gry> probably it didn't finish copying then
[14:06] <ikonia> skinux: how are you checking how full it is
[14:06] <ikonia> skinux: how are you trying to copy
[14:06] <skinux> I didn't, copy failed saying it ran out of disk space.
[14:06] <Beldar> lamrz, If you do not understand blaming others will not help you learn
[14:06] <ikonia> skinux: why don't you just delete all the aprtitions you no longer need, and do a clean install
[14:07] <lamrz> gry, I dont mean it by no means for the channel or anyone, even not to the whole of the people I just talked to. I just found the recent difficulty to get an answer strange.
[14:07] <cenotes> gry: nope, he denounced himself ;)
[14:07] <ikonia> skinux: it sounds like you're making a real mess, and looking at your partition table, I can believe it is
[14:07] <skinux> Hmm.
[14:07] <skinux> How much space should Ubuntu take up out-of-the-box? 10G?
[14:07] <ikonia> skinux: much less than that
[14:08] <ikonia> default install is about 2.4gb i think.....
[14:08] <ikonia> maybe a little more
[14:08] <skinux> Hmm.
[14:08] <ikonia> certainly not 10gb
[14:08] <gry> lamrz: it looked like a language issue. People used a word, you didn't understand it, they reworded when they saw the difficulty.
[14:08] <skinux> Is there a way to backup and restore installation of NetFlix Desktop?
[14:08] <ikonia> netflix is not available on linux
[14:08] <skinux> NetFlix Desktop Client makes Netflix work in LInux...I've been usingi t.
[14:09] <ikonia> ooh the unofficial wine thing
[14:09] <Pici> skinux: where did you get it?
[14:09] <ikonia> just re-install it
[14:10] <wed69> does anyone here know anything about linux wireless latencies?
[14:10] <skinux> Try this: http://www.howtogeek.com/130372/how-to-watch-netflix-on-ubuntu-with-the-netflix-desktop-app/
[14:10] <gry> ask the real question please wed69
[14:10] <ikonia> don't try that
[14:10] <lamrz> gry, yeah, it is settled now..sorry if I sounded too much, but I hope I could tell my point. I do appreciate and significantly benefit from the help I receive on these channels
[14:10] <skinux> ikonia: I would, but it can be tricky to get working
[14:10] <iptable> wed69, wireless what?
[14:10] <ikonia> skinux: right, because it's poor, so backing up that sort of thing and blindly restoring it are bad
[14:10] <gry> lamrz, I see. Likewise.
[14:11] <ikonia> skinux: you would be more wise to just re-install it and set it for your current non-messsed up install
[14:11] <iptable> wed69, wifi, bluetooth, nfc, another protocol?
[14:11] <skinux> Hmm.
[14:11] <Beldar> lamrz, This is free help, volunteers, your expectations are out of a personal need and selfish.
[14:11] <skinux> Maybe I should try mounting SDA12 and rsyncing instead of using cp to copy all the files.
[14:11] <ikonia> skinux: I strongly advise you against it
[14:12] <Beldar> we do not have to help anyone
[14:12] <skinux> Actually, it does sound like a completely fresh install would be better.
[14:12] <ikonia> skinux: I advise you to delete your dead partitions / space, partition your disk correctly, do a clean ubuntu install on formatted partitions and set your system up correctly
[14:12] <skinux> Only customizations I've done are Ubuntu, Ubuntu New, and Storage partitions
[14:13] <iptable> skinux, +1 on ikonia advise. I doubt you will get better/other advise
[14:13] <wed69> i have ubuntu 14.04 and an asus ac66u router. my router is about 100ft away from my machine. my latencies are 1-5ms. after about an hour i get super high latencies...
[14:13] <skinux> The other really small partitions were there when I bought machine.
[14:13] <ikonia> skinux: no, you've done a lot more, such ash the netflix desktop package, which is a PPA which pulls ina  lot of unofficial depdencies
[14:13] <iptable> wed69, did you test to confirm that happens about an hour after using ubuntu?
[14:13] <iptable> wed69, what is required to fix the issue? laptop restart, router restart or both?
[14:13] <Octavian95> Hello everybody! I use 12.04 LTS and i get a very strange error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7639072 somebody pls help the error keeps appearing every hour
[14:14] <skinux> So, are you saying using Netflix Desktop Client screws up my installation?
[14:14] <ikonia> skinux: I didn't say that at all
[14:14] <cenotes> wed69: sounds like a heat problem D:D blind giess though
[14:14] <skinux> Just checking
[14:14] <ikonia> skinux: personally, I certainly wouldn't use that package/PPA -but it's personal choice and up to you
[14:14] <skinux> Is there another way to install Netflix Desktop?
[14:15] <lamrz> Beldar, I dont want to occupy the channel with this. I just spoke about my tone, yet I dont see selfishness in asking things to be expressed differently.
[14:15] <ikonia> netflix is not available on linux
[14:15] <skinux> Not official player, no.
[14:15] <cenotes> who needs tv anyways :D
[14:15] <SchrodingersScat> skinux: this is a good litmus test of which companies respect you.
[14:16] <skinux> SchrodingerScat: What do you mean?
[14:16] <cenotes> have a nice one guys!
[14:16] <cenotes> exit
[14:17] <skinux> ikonia: Anyway, you're saying to ditch custom linux partitions and start with a fresh "standard" installation and go from there?
[14:17] <thaumiel> Hi good folk! I have a terrible problem. Suddenly today my Lubuntu password and keychain password seized working! Why's that... Annoying as I cannot for example install updates...
[14:17] <iptable> Octavian95, every hour?
[14:17] <ikonia> custom linux partitions ?
[14:17] <iptable> Octavian95, got automated updates enabled?
[14:17] <wed69> im able to reboot my machine and latencies go back to 1-5ms
[14:17] <wed69> dont have to reboot the router
[14:17] <ikonia> skinux: I'm saying get rid of all the partitions you don't need / partition mess you've created, and just install ubuntu into a nice clean formatted partition
[14:17] <Octavian95> i don't know if i got the updates enabled
[14:18] <iptable> wed69, and does the connection stay at 1-5ms after reboot for another hour or does it climb back sooner?
[14:18] <Octavian95> yes every hour or even faster
[14:18] <skinux> ikonia: Using the screenshot I posted, can you be specific as to which partitions you think need removed?
[14:18] <iptable> Octavian95, can you please find out if you enabled automatic updates?
[14:18] <wed69> iptable: it will be ok for about an hour sometimes more
[14:18] <wed69> iptable: then it jumps to 900ms
[14:18] <iptable> wed69, does this problem occur after an hour if computer is on but not used for that hour?
[14:18] <Octavian95> yes if you tell me how to do that :D i'm a ubuntu noob
[14:19] <iptable> wed69, also, what did you check latency against?
[14:19] <ikonia> skinux: "anyones you don't need"
[14:19] <wed69> iptable: the machine is constantly being used
[14:19] <iptable> Octavian95, well, at some point you were asked if you want to do that, and you answered Yes or No. Anyways, flashplayer-installer is failing. Try to run it manually from the terminal.
[14:19] <skinux> After re-installing Ubuntu to 60G, the only one I won't "need" will be the 30G partition it's currently installed onto.
[14:20] <wed69> iptable: i checked latency by having the machine ping the access point which is the first hop
[14:20] <iptable> wed69, how about if you stop using it constantly for an hour and tell me if latency happens when it was idle?
[14:20] <wed69> iptable: it also does it when its idle
[14:20] <iptable> wed69, check latency by pinging the gateway instead please.
[14:20] <skinux> Although, I did mess up with "Storage" partition, because it's supposed to have a format that Windows can read as well.
[14:20] <iptable> wed69, when was the last time you held an air duster against it?
[14:20] <Octavian95> and what should i type in the terminal? flashplayer-installer?
[14:20] <iptable> Octavian95, yes
[14:21] <wed69> iptable: latency is the same. the access point is on a gigabit network.
[14:21] <Octavian95> doesn't work it says: flashplayer-installer: command not found
[14:21] <wed69> iptable: i have a raspberry pi that is doing the same thing with raspbian
[14:21] <bobbybuntu> How do I disable hard drive polling?
[14:21] <makara> my 2cents: only reason to make a partition is for performance, for swap
[14:21] <makara> otnerwise its just unecessary complexity
[14:22] <makara> get a removable drive if you want to share files
[14:22] <iptable> wed69, I don't care what network the AP is on. test latency by pinging gateway instead. pinging AP means you trust AP to respond to pings in fast fashion
[14:22] <wed69> iptable: these machines are brand new
[14:22] <Beldar> thaumiel, That does not just stop working, it is something you have done, detail the issue, what leads up to this.
[14:22] <iptable> wed69, wait, what are we troubleshooting?
[14:22] <iptable> wed69, raspberry pi or a proper PC/laptop with ubuntu?
[14:22] <skinux> makara: Were your statements directed toward me?
[14:23] <wed69> iptable: both are doing it
[14:23] <makara> skinux: basically
[14:23] <wed69> iptable: the problem is to the first hop
[14:23] <wed69> iptable: rebooting fixes my latency evertime
[14:23] <iptable> makara, what about if I want to reinstall without loosing /home and all my data and copying for hours?
[14:23] <skinux> I can't get a portable hard drive and I don't have any USB drives big enough to use to shared space.
[14:23] <iptable> makara, there are reasons to partition drives
[14:23] <wed69> iptable: i dont think its ap related because if i connect another device to that ap it works fine
[14:24] <iptable> wed69, another device? is latency your only problem, or you actually see speed issues with browsing the network? like speedtest
[14:24] <makara> iptable: just saying they never convinced me
[14:24] <makara> gotta go
[14:24] <iptable> makara, "they" never convinced you?
[14:25] <wed69> iptable: high latency = speed issues
[14:25] <iptable> wed69, no, not exactly
[14:25] <makara> iptable: the reasons
[14:25] <makara> who can't get a portable drive? how'd you get a PC in the 1st place
[14:25] <makara> anyway
[14:25] <iptable> makara, that's your opinion, but obviously you don't work with servers.
[14:25] <iptable> makara, some dont' want a portable drive
[14:25] <iptable> anyways
[14:26] <iptable> wed69, my latency is 0.699ms to the AP, ubuntu 14.04. This laptop has been on for over 7 hours and is on WiFi
[14:27] <wed69> iptable: so is it a driver issue?
[14:27] <iptable> wed69, speedtest.net shows 80MBps down/20MBps up.
[14:27] <skinux> ikonia: This should help you understand where partitions came from better. Red dots are partitions that were there when I bought this computer. http://imagebin.ca/v/1Pmzaj8Owfmk
[14:27] <wed69> iptable: i tried removing the network manager and installing wicd, that way its not hopping ap's and scanning all the time
[14:27] <iptable> wed69, now, if I introduce 200ms latency, I still get 80MBps down and 20MBps up on speedtest.net
[14:28] <iptable> so, let me repeat the question: does speedtest.net show you reduced speed compared to when you don't have latency problems or not?
[14:28] <iptable> wed69, no, it's not network manager. I use net manager and it works.
[14:29] <iptable> wed69, my raspberry pi never had issues with wifi either. runs for 10 hours on weekends with kids streaming music on to to TV and movies. wifi perfect.
[14:29] <iptable> wed69, it points me to issue with AP not liking something... btw, your "other devices" such as mobile phones will usually disconnect if they see issues and reconnect, so you get network restart.
[14:29] <wed69> iptable: my pi is using a 7 port powered usb hub with a dlink dw 131 wifi adapter
[14:29] <iptable> wed69, and also test this: does shutting down network and starting again on laptop/PC help or you need a full reboot
[14:30] <iptable> wed69, my pi is using the cheapest wifi adapter I found, plugged straight into it
[14:30] <wed69> iptable: i tried that and it was pulling to much power from the pi. ended up using a powered hub
[14:30] <wed69> iptable: restarting my network connect fixes it
[14:31] <iptable> wed69, either 1. you are using a power input that is not providing enough power for the pi, or 2. your dongle is sh1t
[14:31] <iptable> a $5 dongle works
[14:31] <michaelveytsel> Hi All - Basic question: what is the best way to explore and learn about Linux from within just the terminal as a beginner? For example, is there a command to list all available commands, and to sort them by regularity of use, and to list verbose descriptions of those commands?
[14:31] <joli_> so good!
[14:31] <wed69> iptable: dongle is good. hub is good. maybe its ap related
[14:31] <iptable> wed69, so it looks like your other devices are probably not well either, just probably self-rotate the connection when it goes wrong (phones/tablets do that, especially ihpone and andoird)
[14:31] <Flolila> hello i cant seem to disable ipv6 - tried to configure sysctl.conf but those connections are still there
[14:31] <iptable> wed69, looks like your access point is broken
[14:32] <iptable> wed69, test with another access point
[14:32] <wed69> iptable: ive tested with another ap of the same model
[14:32] <wed69> iptable: dont have another model to try with
[14:32] <iptable> wed69, for the pi, you can give it a power adapter that can provide 2A, as opposed to 0.5A (500mA) and it will have enough power to work with wifi without the hub needed
[14:32] <wed69> iptable: one other thing i suspect is distance
[14:32] <iptable> wed69, distance in metres please
[14:33] <Octavian95> anyone find something about my problem? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7639072/
[14:33] <OerHeks> !ipv6 | Flolila
[14:33] <iptable> Octavian95, why did you install flashplayer-installer in the first place?
[14:33] <iptable> Octavian95, you can replace is with another flas module in software centre, do that
[14:34] <Octavian95> i didn't install it
[14:34] <Flolila> hm i already tried the tips that are pointed out there
[14:34] <iptable> Octavian95, ok, it got auto-installed for one reason or another. go to software centre, remove, reinstall. or remove and install alternative
[14:34] <Flolila> im on a dorm-connection
[14:34] <iptable> wed69, what is the distance in metres?
[14:34] <wed69> iptable: 21-30 metres
[14:34] <iptable> wed69, also, testing with same model doesn't help, does it?
[14:35] <wed69> iptable: nope
[14:35] <iptable> wed69, 30 metres is quite far
[14:35] <iptable> wed69, tried being closer to it and seeing if problem persists?
[14:35] <iptable> wed69, so that's 2 things to try. 1. a different make and model (MAKE AND MODEL) and 2. be closer to it for 2 hours
[14:35] <skinux> Here's better annotation for Linux partitions, RED dot partitions were still there when I bought this machine. http://imagebin.ca/v/1Pn22mFK8YRm
[14:36] <wed69> iptable: the wierd thing is that it works fine for 1-2 hours with super low latency. then just spikes up to 900ms and stays there
[14:36] <wed69> iptable: if i reboot it goes back
[14:36] <skinux> I see if I reinstall to 60G partition, I can merge Windows and 30G partitions back together.
[14:36] <wed69> iptable: could there be something causing the router or dongle to disconnect due to signal
[14:37] <Octavian95> ok i found adobe flash plugin in software center i'm uninstalling it now
[14:37] <iptable> wed69, I would say an issue is with some internal timer on the access point
[14:38] <Octavian95> iptable: done uninstalling now what? should wait and see if the error comes up again?
[14:38] <iptable> wed69, hence the timing I was so curious about. Some hardware do happen to do weird stuff like that.
[14:38] <iptable> Octavian95, no, install again or find another flashplayer plugin (different one) in software centre and install that
[14:38] <wed69> iptable: maybe ill try flashing dd-wrt firmware on the ap
[14:38] <iptable> wed69, now THAT is a good idea, assuming your AP allows that.
[14:38] <wed69> iptable: i've had other issues in the past with that ap's firmware
[14:39] <iptable> wed69, and tell everyone not to turn on the following during the test:
[14:39] <wed69> iptable: it does... but i lose out on 802.11ac speeds
[14:39] <iptable> wed69, 1. bluetooth, 2. wireless phones, 3. microwave
[14:39] <iptable> wed69, well, you are not getting them now tbh, so...
[14:40] <McMido> well is there is any script to download youtube videos ??
[14:40] <iptable> wed69, that's what I had to do to my AP. was so bad and disconnecting, I had to ddwrt it
[14:40] <iptable> McMido, yes
[14:40] <wed69> iptable: thats not an option for me. this is a production environment. ill set the ap with a different ssid and pass
[14:40] <iptable> McMido, firefox plugins. look those up
[14:40] <wed69> iptable: have you ever used tomato firmware?
[14:40] <McMido> nth threw Terminal cuz i really hate to act with Gui :D
[14:40] <iptable> wed69, well, it's broken production, so fix it. besides, it's office env if it's wifi, not prod :P
[14:40] <OerHeks> skinux, install gdisk ( for gpt) and see if the partitions are the same as in gparted, i think gparted messed up
[14:41] <iptable> McMido, no
[14:41] <McMido> <iptable aight ty anyway
[14:41] <OerHeks> !info gdisk
[14:41] <wed69> iptable: lol yeah i tried explaining that to my boss... they refuse to run wires.
[14:41] <bcvery> !info youtube-dl | McMido
[14:41] <Octavian95> iptable: so immediatelly after installing it again the error appeared again! :( using an alternative flash plugin is not an option for me
[14:41] <Octavian95> this is frustrating
[14:42] <McMido> <ubottu thats nice :D ty
[14:42] <gassho> why dont i see hexchat 2.10.0 in synaptic
[14:42] <McMido> <bcvery Ty :)
[14:42] <Octavian95> :( i really need the adobe flash plugin and using another  alternative plugin is not an option
[14:42] <bcvery> McMido: np
[14:42] <iptable> wed69, servers on WiFi?
[14:43] <Rimminen> hello everyone, I'm having trouble installing php5-mcrypt with apt-get
[14:43] <iptable> Octavian95, as stated, you can get adobe flash plugin using another package. same plugin, another package, someone else packaged it and it might work for you.
[14:44] <Rimminen> The install itself goes through without error, but the module doesn't appear to be installed when I run php5 --modules
[14:44] <Octavian95> ok but im just curious what does that error mean?
[14:44] <joli_> install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz
[14:44] <wed69> iptable: kinda. we are using the r'pi to control some production equipment and display uptimes. but they want to put out like 150 of these things in our facility
[14:44] <Octavian95> joli_: where i get that file and how do i install it?
[14:44] <iptable> Rimminen, you need to enable it
[14:45] <iptable> Rimminen, /etc/php... somewhere there you have modules enabled and available directories. enable the module by symlinking or copying the conf file
[14:45] <Rimminen> iptable: can you give me a link to a guide? I'm obviously not very good at this
[14:45] <Rimminen> okay
[14:45] <Rimminen> Thanks!
[14:45] <Flolila> how can i open sysctl.conf as root?
[14:45] <iptable> Rimminen, no probs
[14:45] <iptable> Flolila, sudo vi sysctl.conf
[14:45] <joli_> adobe.com
[14:45] <Flolila> thanks :)
[14:45] <ZX> dsa
[14:45] <iptable> Flolila, sudo less sysctl.conf
[14:46] <ZX> Hi
[14:46] <iptable> Flolila, gksudo gedit sysctl.conf
[14:46] <Flolila> what is the difference?
[14:46] <iptable> wed69, cables. definitely. or at least ethernet over power adapters (powerline)
[14:46] <Beldar> Flolila, You can disable it in  gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub     GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="ipv6.disable=1
[14:46] <iptable> Flolila, tools. vi is command line edit, less is display in command line, gedit is GUI edit tool
[14:47]  * iptable goes to doctors now
[14:47] <iptable> Octavian95, that the plugin installer couldn't download the plugin
[14:48] <Octavian95> ok i got that tar.gz file now how i install that?
[14:48] <joli_> tar -xvzf install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz
[14:48] <Octavian95> double clicking it opens it with  archive manager
[14:49] <joli_> then read readme.txt
[14:52] <Flolila> does it matter where i insert the disable commands?
[14:53] <Beldar> Flolila, In what?
[14:53] <Flolila> sysctl.conf
[14:53] <joli_> sudo cp libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[14:53] <Octavian95> joli_: ok i extracted the tar but i hardly understand the install instructions from the readme :( could you help me?
[14:53] <joli_> sudo cp -r usr/* /usr
[14:53] <Beldar> Flolila, At the end, but you might look at my message to you
[14:54] <Beldar> you can disable it from the kernel
[14:54] <Flolila> thanks i tried this but nothing happeend
[14:54] <joli_> open terminal
[14:54] <Beldar> Flolila, Did you reboot?
[14:54] <Flolila> no
[14:54] <Flolila> will do so now
[14:55] <Beldar> Flolila, IT is a kernel command you have top reboot if you have used my option
[14:55] <arshavin> arch user here,is anybody using mate-unstable with gtk3 support on ubuntu?
[14:56] <joli_> open terminal , sudo cp -r usr/* /usr && sudo cp libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[14:56] <Beldar> no update-grub I suspect either sigh
[14:56] <joli_> That's all!
[14:57] <Beldar> joli_, preface the messages with the users nick
[14:57] <vzsaeon> morning :) thank you to all the brains in the chatroom coudlnt do it with out you ... im finally getting the hang of the distros and have a quick question regarding customization appearance..?
[14:57] <Beldar> vzsaeon, No fluffing please address the issue.
[14:58] <mm48> ciao
[14:58] <gassho> uh
[14:58] <gassho> fluffing?
[14:58] <gassho> that sounds pornographic
[14:58] <vzsaeon> i liked how kde had the customization of windows and such right there in the settings i was wondering how to do i make my ubuntu more customized with colors and themes through the terminal
[14:58] <mm48> !list
[14:58] <vzsaeon> lol
[14:59] <Beldar> gassho, you can interpret anyway you like, you are the one to mention that term.
[14:59] <Flolila> still there
[14:59] <Flolila> http://imgur.com/qvf5oNW
[14:59] <gassho> well it sounds terrible
[14:59] <arkin> Quick question, setting my timezone using dkpg-reconfigure (Europe/London) has set the wrong time 16:00 vs 17:00, how do i correct this?
[14:59] <Beldar> Flolila, Did you update grub
[15:00] <vzsaeon> sorry ..
[15:00] <Flolila> how?
[15:00] <mm48> help
[15:00] <toff> /quit
[15:00] <Beldar> Flolila, sudo update-grub you always do this when changing that script
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> arkin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime#Using_the_Command_Line_.28terminal.29
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> mm48: with what?
[15:00] <Beldar> Flolila, Than reboot
[15:01] <Flolila> Warnung: Setting GRUB_TIMEOUT to a non-zero value when GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT is set is no longer supported.
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> Flolila: its a known bug, just ignore it
[15:01] <arkin> ActionParsnip: are you suggesting i use a ntp to manage the time?
[15:01] <Flolila> restart again?
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> arkin: no, the link shows how you can set timezone...
[15:02] <arkin> ActionParsnip: i've set the timezone...
[15:03] <arkin> ActionParsnip: but its set the time incorrectly
[15:03] <Flolila> still having those ipv6s
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> arkin: then try ntp :)
[15:04] <Beldar> Flolila, You have not done what is needed
[15:04] <vzsaeon> sudo update-grub
[15:04] <Flolila> i did update grub
[15:05] <vzsaeon> my bad didnt mean to type that in
[15:05] <joli_> Good night !  I go to sleeping......
[15:05] <Beldar> Flolila, That modifies grub to have that command it now needs to be booted to have that command used.
[15:05] <Flolila> but i rebooted
[15:05] <Beldar> Flolila,Where ever you got the info to add that told you all this.
[15:06] <Beldar> Flolila, After updating grub?
[15:06] <OerHeks> Beldar, the ipv6 factoid i gave is not really clear on this
[15:06] <Beldar> OerHeks, I gave him a whole other method
[15:06] <OerHeks> !ipv6
[15:07] <Beldar> OerHeks, From grub is what I use
[15:08] <Flolila> pls help
[15:08] <Flolila> from the start
[15:08] <Flolila> im a total newb
[15:08] <Flolila> i want to disable ipv6
[15:08] <gry> why?
[15:09] <Flolila> i dont need it
[15:09] <manazir> hi
[15:09] <compdoc> Flolila, just have to add few lines to /etc/sysctl.conf
[15:09] <gassho> hi
[15:09] <thekkid> Is there a ppa or way to install intellij 13.1 into the application dash?
[15:09] <manazir> anyone who can help
[15:10] <manazir> me
[15:10] <manazir> i need support
[15:10] <Flolila> compdoc
 Flolila, You can disable it in  gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub     GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="ipv6.disable=1   than update grub and reboot
[15:10] <Flolila> what is the most easiest foolproof way to do soẞ
[15:10] <Flolila> ?
[15:10] <manazir> i need help partioning
[15:11] <bcvery> !details | manazir
[15:11] <compdoc> Flolila, use the second answer on this page:   http://askubuntu.com/questions/346126/how-to-disable-ipv6-on-ubuntu
[15:11] <compdoc> no need to mess with grub
[15:12] <Beldar> compdoc, That is not messing with grub and an opinion, DO NOT DISREGARD WORKING HELP.
[15:12] <wed69> iptable: i dont think ethernet of power line would work in this company. reliable wifi is probably the better fit, but i'm pretty sure they aren't going to get the reliability they were hoping for.
[15:12] <alfaceor> Hi everyone i need support with this issue http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2228263&p=13043373#post13043373
[15:12] <manazir> i need help partioning , i can try ubuntu and when i go into gparted it says my disk is full when it is clearly not
[15:13] <Flolila> those lines are already added in the sysctl
[15:13] <compdoc> how did they get there?
[15:14] <Beldar> IPv6 is off here with a simple grub mod compdoc
[15:15] <alfaceor> Any help please http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2228263&p=13043373#post13043373
[15:16] <Flolila> compdoc i already added them
[15:17] <Flolila> but this didnt help
[15:17] <Flolila> then i came here
[15:17] <compdoc> further down that page is the grub entry
[15:18] <compdoc> the /etc/sysctl.conf has worked for me on several severs
[15:18] <compdoc> servers
[15:19] <Beldar> compdoc, I don't have a problem with any method that works, but disregarding one that does is not helping, and destrimental when a user is rather new and has no understanding.
[15:20] <Beldar> detrimental*
[15:20] <compdoc> Beldar, you dont have to whine about it
[15:21] <Beldar> compdoc, You are passively aggressively commenting rather than admiting that was a wrong move.
[15:21] <Beldar> come on
[15:22] <Beldar> compdoc, Not a whine I did nothing but correctly help this user and ask you to do the same without being stupid with opinions.
[15:23] <roubaozibudong> 晚上有人看比赛么？
[15:23] <roubaozibudong> 求陪聊
[15:23] <McMido> o_o
[15:24] <roubaozibudong> 求一起
[15:24] <Beldar> !cn | roubaozibudong
[15:25] <sqard> hy...nid help js installed Linux...can u pls giv da command run in oder to install xamp
[15:25] <holstein> sqard: you have ubuntu 14.04 installed?
[15:26] <holstein> sqard: you are asking about xampp ?
[15:26] <Drew_27> Gah.. Okay I think I'm doing this wrong, let me get a screenshot
[15:26] <sqard> i nid to in xamp on ubuntu
[15:27] <holstein> sqard: you mean, xampp?
[15:27] <sqard> ma bad,,,,ya i mean xampp
[15:27] <holstein> sqard: http://www.enqlu.com/2014/04/how-to-install-xampp-for-linux-in-ubuntu-14-04-lts-or-linux-mint-17.html https://www.apachefriends.org/index.html
[15:27] <roubaozibudong> 你们都是大傻逼
[15:27] <roubaozibudong> 啊哈哈哈哈哈
[15:27] <holstein> !info xampp
[15:28] <sqard> ubottu:can i install mysql
[15:28] <holstein> sqard: you can install what you like, and will need to follow what is needed by xampp
[15:29] <Eggs_> sqard: you could install the packages maunally which may be better if xampp is not in the repos
[15:29] <roubaozibudong> 猜猜我是谁
[15:29] <holstein> !mysql
[15:29] <roubaozibudong> 猜对给100
[15:29] <Beldar> roubaozibudong, English only channel
[15:29] <roubaozibudong> come on baby
[15:29] <sqard> eggs_:let me giv a try
[15:29] <Drew_27> Question. When I'm trying to install Dual Boot, and I'm trying to set up a boot DVD RW, should it look like this? http://i.imgur.com/eQqoFfJ.png
[15:29] <holstein> !cn | roubaozibudong
[15:30] <Drew_27> Anyone?? I don't even know what WUBI.exe is..
[15:30] <cfhowlett> Drew_27 do not wubi.  don't.  no longer supported.
[15:31] <holstein> Drew_27: no need to bother with wubi.. what is the question?
[15:31] <Drew_27> Oh.. Then why did it automatically install like that?? And where do I get the correct download?
[15:31] <holstein> !dualboot | Drew_27
[15:31] <Beldar> Drew_27, A install of ubuntu inside windows not supported is all.
[15:31] <Drew_27> I wasn't trying to
[15:31] <sydney> Ok,i have been looking into changing my splash screen in 12.04. I have these installed,from all the DE's i've tried,but my splashscreen is a gray background with a gear.http://s11.postimg.org/kosr5q78z/2014_06_13_112636_1600x900_scrot.png How do i fix? i would like to have the lubuntu one.
[15:31] <Drew_27> I was trying to set up dual boot and the ubuntu website gave me that :l
[15:31] <Drew_27> But thank you holstein
[15:31] <Drew_27> That link is what I needed
[15:31] <sydney> oops http://s11.postimg.org/kosr5q78z/2014_06_13_112636_1600x900_scrot.png
[15:32] <cfhowlett> Drew_27  reboot.  set your bios to boot the ubuntu USB.  start ubuntu.  install
[15:32] <sqard> holstein:tanx fo da link
[15:32] <Beldar> Drew_27, It is a matter of you understanding this stuff, any link giving you that woud have explained it's use.
[15:32] <Drew_27> I know that cfhowlett.
[15:32] <Beldar> would*
[15:32] <holstein> Drew_27: you wont setup dualboot from inside windows like that
[15:32] <Drew_27> I've booted ubuntu yesterday on accident by "installing it" then "dual booting it" only to find out today it was wubi
[15:32] <holstein> Drew_27: are you using a 14.04 iso?
[15:32] <Drew_27> I was
[15:33] <Drew_27> I don't know what I'm doing wrong, when I "burned to DVD" it gave me that
[15:33] <holstein> Drew_27: when you say "i was" what does that mean? you are *not* usikng 14.04?
[15:33] <Drew_27> Wrong image I s'ppose
[15:33] <Drew_27> Right now I'm on Windows
[15:33] <cfhowlett> Drew_27 the only way wubi would install is if you were running windows - so you were NOT dual booting.  sorry.
[15:33] <holstein> Drew_27: you should be using 14.04 iso's
[15:33] <Drew_27> cf, I dual booted, I was at the right menu
[15:33] <Drew_27> It was really messed up though
[15:34] <Drew_27> holstein, I got this right off the ubuntu site, the iso burned to dvd exactly like this: http://i.imgur.com/eQqoFfJ.png
[15:34] <Beldar> Drew_27, probably a 12.04 image last one to actually install from that image.
[15:34] <Drew_27> I didn't have a 12.04 image
[15:34] <Drew_27> @Beldar
[15:34] <Drew_27> The file I burned is called...
[15:34] <holstein> Drew_27: you want a 14.04 iso.. please confirm that it is, and if not, start over.. and get one, and refer to the dual boot link
[15:34] <cfhowlett> Drew_27 again: you're running windows.  don't run windows.  reboot.  set your computer to start Ubuntu NOT windows.
[15:34] <Drew_27> "ubuntu-gnome-14.04-desktop-i386.iso"
[15:34] <Beldar> Drew_27, THan you downloaded the 14.04 using wubi or lionked it to a 14.04 image
[15:34] <Drew_27> cfhowlett, I just boot from that and that works?
[15:35] <Drew_27> Beldar, that image burned that exactly
[15:35] <Drew_27> no idea why
[15:35] <cfhowlett> Drew_27 you'll get a live Ubuntu sessions.  from there you can choose to test or install ubuntu.
[15:35] <Drew_27> I know that much
[15:35] <Drew_27> I was on that before on accident, somehow, it was screwed up
[15:35] <Drew_27> I just need to make sure it's right
[15:35] <holstein> Drew_27: on what?
[15:35] <Beldar> Drew_27, The wubi install has not been in any image since 12.04, so what you say makes no sense is all, user error here. ;)
[15:36] <Drew_27> It wouldn't boot from my usb before so I burned it to a dvd just now and got that
[15:36] <Drew_27> Beldar, incorrect.
[15:36] <holstein> Drew_27: please use details.. you were on what and what happened? and what sceweed up how?
[15:36] <Drew_27> I literally just burned that to my NEW dvd, and got that
[15:36] <Drew_27> the file was this: ubuntu-gnome-14.04-desktop-i386.iso
[15:36] <Drew_27> And it burned that image.
[15:36] <Drew_27> Either way, if I can boot from the DVD like you're saying, I can manage that
[15:36] <cfhowlett> Drew_27 reboot!  tell your computer to boot the DVD first priority and you'll get ubuntu running
[15:36] <Beldar> Drew_27, Okay I guess you know carry on, not worth that hassle. ;)
[15:37] <Drew_27> Well, I mean it just did it in like 30 seconds @Beldar
[15:37] <Drew_27> about 2 minutes ago, not like I would know
[15:37] <Drew_27> but m'k
[15:37] <Drew_27> cya
[15:37] <Hardcheese> wtf.. "A problem occurred. Report?" No info about what's being sent and what the problem was.
[15:38] <Hardcheese> you work for hte NSA!
[15:38] <Hardcheese> no, but seriously (well, you DO work for the NSA), how do I know what's wrong?
[15:38] <Beldar> Hardcheese, NO swearing acronyms here please.
 wtf.. "A problem occurred. Report?" No info about what's being sent and what the problem was.
[15:39] <gry> i have same issue
[15:39] <gry> each time i log in after reboot i see an obscure dialog and it doesn't admit what the issue is
[15:40] <CrypticByte> Weird anyone know a suggestion why I have unity's launch bar set to automatically hide but anytime i install an app or close one down it takes a few minutes before it will unminimize the launch bar when i hover my mouse over it
[15:41] <wheatthin> gry, try checking your /var/logs  and/or running dmesg to see if you get any errors
[15:42] <wheatthin> CrypticByte, I'm unsure, but you might be able to tweak it in unity tweak
[15:42] <sydney> i want to try the spinfinity splash sreen,but after i install it,how do i enable it?
[15:42] <Beldar> CrypticByte, Right click the desktop and navigate to the panel adjustments and set the sensitivity higher
[15:43] <Beldar> CrypticByte you have to bump the right edge to trigger it.
[15:43] <Beldar> left* sorrty
[15:44] <CrypticByte> Yeah i been doing that but it would act like I am not and never open up hte menu after a few minutes I could do the exact same thing then poof it opens
[15:44] <CrypticByte> i changed the sensitivity we will see if that helps
[15:45] <Beldar> CrypticByte, Cool, preface with nicks if you want us to respond, it colors the post like you see this one.
[15:47] <gry> wheatthin, thanks, i will next time
[15:48] <Beldar> sydney, http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/?content=141055
[15:48] <Beldar> sydney, Actually disregard to old my mistake.
[15:49] <sydney> Beldar: what?
[15:49] <sydney> Beldar: how about gnome-splashscreen-manager?
[15:50] <Beldar> sydney, I answered your request, than realized it was using non available parts.
[15:50] <sydney> Beldar: oh :D
[15:51] <sydney> aparent there is no gnome-splashscreen-manager :(
[15:51] <Beldar> sydney, Helps to at least look, than ask me to explain, I tried to help that realized it was not help and apologized
[15:51] <Beldar> than*
[15:52] <sydney> Beldar: :D
[15:52] <sydney> Beldar: ok :D
[15:54] <Lrrr1> isn't there a torrent file for Ubuntu Server 14.04LTS?
[15:54] <cfhowlett> Lrrr1 of course.
[15:54] <Lrrr1> I seem to only find a link for the direct http download on Ubuntu sites
[15:54] <sydney> Beldar: i can download it in synaptic,but i dont know how to enable it.
[15:54] <bazhang> !torrents
[15:54] <Lrrr1> cfhowlett is there a link to that on Ubuntu site... where i work they block TPB and most torrent sites
[15:55] <Lrrr1> the http download is taking FOREVER
[15:55] <parv> hello,
[15:55] <xangua> Lrrr1: ubottu just told you
[15:55] <xangua> see avobe
[15:55] <parv> do anyone knows where to report bugs for ubuntu?
[15:56] <cfhowlett> !bug | Paradisee_
[15:56] <Lrrr1> oops thanks
[15:56] <Lrrr1> sorry lol
[15:56] <Lrrr1> got it now :-)
[15:56] <cfhowlett> !bug |  parv
[15:56] <sydney> i will be right back...
[16:01] <sydney> i installed spinfinity from synaptic,and rebooted,but nothing changed :(
[16:01] <holstein> sydney: what are you expecting? do you have driver support for what you are expecting?
[16:01] <fishscene> I just downloaded Ubuntu 14.04 (beta/alpha) and booted from it. It is asking me for a password. Does anyone know the password?
[16:02] <sydney> holstein: i think so,not sure. i want to change my splash screen from the gaer,to spinfinity
[16:02] <holstein> fishscene: should be blank.. and shouldnt be asking for it.. where did you get the iso? where are you being prompted?
[16:02] <Beldar> fishscene, wrong download it has been released and md5sum check any not acting normally
[16:02] <Lrrr1> fishscene it's LTS now
[16:02] <fishscene> WOOPS. Sorry. I meant 14.10. lol.
[16:02] <holstein> sydney: where are you getting "spinfinity"? gnome look?
[16:03] <sydney> holstein: synaptic
[16:03] <Beldar> !14.10 |fish
[16:03] <holstein> !14.10
[16:03] <Lrrr1> oh cant help you there... still on 12.04
[16:03] <cfhowlett> fishscene beta? alpha?  14.04 has been releases do you are looking in the wrong place
[16:03] <xangua> fishscene: try 'ubuntu' for anything else #ubuntu+1
[16:03] <Lrrr1> about to be on 14.04 for a FOG server tho
[16:03] <Beldar> fishscene, #ubuntu+1 is the correct channel, and md5sum check it.
[16:04] <fishscene> …. I'm sure the md5 sum will match what is on the Ubuntu website where I downloaded it from. But never hurts. Also, for those that missed it, I typo'd. I meant 14.10. And I am now in the +1 channel. Thanks!
[16:05] <sydney> holstein: i have a few splash screen from DEs. i installed Lubuntu-desktop yesterday,but it didnt change anythin.
[16:05] <sydney> but it shows that it is installed
[16:05] <MajorTom> hi all
[16:06] <Kvrmurthy> Hi
[16:06] <holstein> sydney: lubuntu-desktop is much more than a splash screen.. you can really do some damage trying to apply those *-desktop meta packages.. i suggest not taking those changes trivially
[16:06] <holstein> sydney: you would need to install what is needed, *then* apply the changes..
[16:07] <sydney> holstein: i know that it is more than a splash screen. ;)
[16:07] <sydney> holstein: how can i do dammage?
[16:08] <holstein> sydney: then, if literally all you are doing is installing pacakges, and rebooting. thats why nothing is changing.. you have to *apply* the changes in the configs you want
[16:08] <sydney> holstein: oh
[16:08] <holstein> sydney: you can do damage by installing *-desktop meta packages, as i said.. its not a way to casually change a splash screen.. those are *much* larger, as i said, and you said you know
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> sydney: are you only wanting to change the splash?
[16:09] <sydney> hosti didnt install it for the splash screen.I wanted the DE
[16:09] <holstein> sydney: http://askubuntu.com/questions/75755/how-to-change-the-lightdm-theme-greeter for example is a way to address theming
[16:10] <sydney> holstein: i didnt install it for the splash screen.I wanted the DE. :D
[16:10] <holstein> sydney: the "DE" is just lxde.. if you want lxde, install lxde.. if you want lubunt-desktop, install that.. but, this is different from a splash screen theme
[16:10] <holstein> sydney: do you have the DE? or no?
[16:10] <sydney> Yes,i do
[16:11] <sydney> i was just wondering why it didnt change my splash screen when i installed Lubuntu
[16:11] <cfhowlett> sydney DE is not SUPPOSED to change the splash screen.  different packages
[16:11] <Na3iL> hiya all
[16:11] <holstein> sydney: because "it", and by "it", im assuming you mean, installing lubuntu-desktop, is not intended to do so.. you can change whatever themes you like, though..
[16:12] <sydney> cfhowlett: Kubuntu-desktop did!!
[16:12] <sydney> now im stuck with an ugly gear ;p
[16:12] <Na3iL> anyone here knows how can i open a .dmp file on ubuntu ?
[16:13] <cfhowlett> sydney kubuntu-desktop is NOT the DE.  KDE is the DE.  you installed the desktop meta-package which DOES include greeter changes
[16:13] <crrgrd> ciao
[16:13] <cfhowlett> !flavors | sydney
[16:13] <holstein> sydney: you can change to what you like, friend.. this is a lot like how the process will be, depending on what you have, and what you want.. http://askubuntu.com/questions/75755/how-to-change-the-lightdm-theme-greeter
[16:13] <sydney> ok :)
[16:14] <Na3iL> guys anyone here knows how can i open files with extension dmp on ubuntu ?
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> Na3iL: what does the 'file' command say it is?
[16:14] <holstein> Na3iL: just open? or edit? or use in some way?
[16:14] <behrooz> hello when i want restart daemon lirc with this command : sudo /etc/init.d/lirc restart , i have get error , this error
[16:14] <behrooz> behrooz@behrooz-Lenovo-G500:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/lirc restart
[16:14] <behrooz> [sudo] password for behrooz:
[16:14] <behrooz> find: `/sys/class/rc/*/': No such file or directory
[16:14] <behrooz> soory
[16:15] <behrooz> sorry
[16:15] <Na3iL> ActionParsnip, dmp is a aproviation for dump , files on window$
[16:15] <imghost> Nail .dmp=dump file?
[16:15] <sydney> I dont want to change lightdm though,i want to change the splashscree. :P
[16:15] <Na3iL> I tryed with wine app but nothing appears
[16:15] <behrooz> this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/7639626/
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> Na3iL: fine, what does file say it is....
[16:15] <Na3iL> yeah imghost
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> behrooz: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[16:15] <Na3iL> ActionParsnip, w8
[16:16] <imghost> Nail windows or linux based?
[16:16] <behrooz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7639636/
[16:16] <holstein> sydney: no.. you want to change the greeter to the lubuntu greeter.. from whatever you are on now .. assuming you installed ubuntu and then switched to kubuntu-desktop, and that applied, you are on the kubuntu greeter?
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> behrooz: http://askubuntu.com/questions/204822/lirc-remote-control-daemon-doesnt-work
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> behrooz: http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=101151
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> behrooz: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2036393
[16:18] <sydney> holstein: LightDM has always been there!? Ive never seen a different greater.
[16:18] <sydney> greeter*
[16:18] <holstein> sydney: you stated you installed kde and it changed..
[16:18] <holstein> sydney: regardless, just confirm what you have, and what you want.. and a volunteer can help you
[16:18] <sydney> holstein: it changed the splashscreen. :D
[16:18] <sydney> Not the greeter
[16:18] <holstein> sydney: ok.. again, just say what you have and what you want, friend
[16:19] <holstein> sydney: im assuming youare not wanting to edit the theme or backgroung for lightdm, since that has been linked for you.. so what are you looking for?
[16:19] <sydney> I am in Lubuntu-desktop at the moment,and i would like to change my splashcreen.
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> sydney: what to?
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> sydney: you should have asked this rather than adding random packages to your OS....
[16:20] <holstein> sydney: ok.. from what to what, friend?
[16:20] <sydney> from kde i think to Spinfinity,or if that doesnt work,lubuntu's splashscreen.
[16:20] <holstein> sydney: http://askubuntu.com/questions/449677/how-do-i-set-the-lightdm-wallpaper-in-ubuntu-14-04
[16:20] <sydney> I think KDE
[16:21] <sydney> 12.04
[16:21] <holstein> sydney: only you can confirm, friend
[16:21] <sydney> let me do some looking then... :P
[16:21] <sydney> ;)
[16:21] <holstein> sydney: the links above are of the config file.. those should be the same in 12.04, and you can look and confirm that
[16:21] <m1dnight_> heh, just read the tannenbaum - torvalds discussion
[16:21] <m1dnight_> I'd suspected Linus to be more harsh
[16:21] <cfhowlett> !ot|m1dnight_
[16:22] <m1dnight_> oh
[16:22] <m1dnight_> mkay
[16:22] <m1dnight_> :p sorry
[16:22] <Kvrmurthy> So we talk about mark only? Just kidding ;)
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> sydney: so you want the Kubuntu Plymouth splash screen on your OS, is that right?
[16:23] <Beldar> m1dnight_, They like a good argument there, just remove at least 20 IQ points. ;)
[16:23] <Kvrmurthy> Couple of days back i too read Linux is Obselete topic
[16:24] <sydney> I want to change the KDE splashscreen,that KDE installed,to spinfinity or lubuntu
[16:24] <m1dnight_> OT GUYS
[16:24] <m1dnight_> !!!
[16:24] <m1dnight_> :p
[16:24] <holstein> Kvrmurthy: please take advnatage of the #ubuntu-offtopic to discuss.. thanks
[16:24] <Beldar> Kvrmurthy, Tell it to #ubuntu-offtopic and the large hadron collider
[16:24] <m1dnight_> see you in OT channel Beldar ;p
[16:24] <bazhang> Beldar, please stop the running offtopic commentary
[16:25] <Beldar> no lroblem my mistake bazhang
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> sydney: so you have the KDE Plymouth bootsplash now, or is it what you want to have after the change?
[16:25] <Kvrmurthy> Okay guys just chill :)
[16:26] <sydney> i have the the KDE plymouth at the moment,and want to change it.
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> sydney: ok, to what?
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> sydney: You can select one of the installed themes with:    sudo dpkg-reconfigure plymouth && sudo update-initramfs -u
[16:27] <sydney> ActionParsnip: spinfinity plymouth if possible.
[16:27] <Devme> help...my ubuntu not detecting my DVD...
[16:27] <Kvrmurthy> Your device is showing up?
[16:28] <Kvrmurthy> The DVD drive i mean
[16:29] <Devme> nothing is shown on computer too...im using older version of ubuntu and have to install lubuntu
[16:29] <Devme> lubuntu with my dvd..bcoz i am unable to do it with a cd
[16:29] <cfhowlett> Devme USB???
[16:30] <sydney> ActionParsnip: if that doesnt work,lubuntu plymouth
[16:30] <Kvrmurthy> Which version of ubuntu?
[16:30] <Devme> its showed boot error so i decided to choose other options...
[16:31] <Devme> Hoary Hedgehog...
[16:31] <cfhowlett> sydney read:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Plymouth
[16:32] <sydney> cfhowlett: i already look at that. ;)
[16:33] <sydney> Never mind,i will forget the whole idea.
[16:33] <cfhowlett> sydney http://askubuntu.com/questions/2007/how-do-i-change-the-plymouth-bootscreen
[16:33] <Devme> how to install lubuntu from USB using ubuntu Hoary hedgehog without boot Error???
[16:33] <genii> Hoary Hedgehog???
[16:33] <Devme> instructions please...
[16:33] <cfhowlett> Devme hoary is end of life and unsupported
[16:33] <genii> Devme: That release is many many years old now
[16:34] <sydney> thanks for your help!!
[16:34] <Devme> yes...hoary hedgehog...thats why i have to go for lubuntu 14.04
[16:34] <cfhowlett> Devme you are making ZERO sense
[16:34] <The0x539> what?
[16:34] <bazhang> Devme, there are no upgrades paths using hoary
[16:34] <The0x539> that does not make ANY sense
[16:34] <Devme> i have downloaded lubuntu...
[16:35] <genii> cfhowlett: I *think* they are on Hoary but want to make a Trusty USB from the iso
[16:35] <Devme> now i dont need to update but to change my os to lubuntu because i have a old pc.
[16:35] <holstein> !5.04
[16:36] <cfhowlett> genii sounds legit - but I think no USB creator.  so a DD command to make a bootable USB???
[16:36] <holstein> !install | Devme
[16:36] <Lrrr1> 5.04 that's when I started using Ubuntu
[16:36] <Lrrr1> lol
[16:36] <Lrrr1> I remember those days
[16:36] <holstein> Devme: you'll just make installable media from the lubuntu iso you downloaded, and boot and install
[16:36] <Lrrr1> they would send me a disc in the mail :-)
[16:36] <The0x539> ew, lubuntu ships with chromium
[16:36] <holstein> Devme: you can dd copy the iso to usb
[16:37] <genii> cfhowlett: I think the images are hybrid... if so that will work
[16:37] <genii> lunch, afk
[16:37] <JimmyNeutron> Could someone explain what this kernel panic mean? drm_kms_helper: panic occurred, switching back to text console
[16:37] <cfhowlett> genii holstein I don't know the command, but I think it's DD ...
[16:37] <Devme> sorry, dd copy means???
[16:38] <iscorpion> how can i install netbeans-8.0-linux.sh on 14.04 please help me
[16:38] <holstein> Devme: you can search.. dd copy the iso .. should be in the install link i shared earlier.. let the volunteers here know if you dont get it sorted from referring to it
[16:39] <fishscene> Devme: "dd" is a command in the terminal. Here's a generic manual, but not a tutorial: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/karmic/en/man1/dd.1.html
[16:40] <Lrrr1> yay my boss has finally given in and is letting me set up a Linux vm... lol
[16:40] <holstein> Devme: i use unetbootin to create bootable usb's
[16:40] <Lrrr1> he's so terrified of Linux
[16:41] <IdleOne> Lrrr1: chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[16:41] <iscorpion> ??
[16:43] <Devme> have to go with USB for booting...
[16:43] <iscorpion> ??
[16:44] <iscorpion> how to install .sh file?
[16:44] <hellyeah> hey
[16:45] <hellyeah> how can i chek the version of graphic card
[16:45] <bazhang> lspci hellyeah
[16:45] <Guest18657> Hello	my name	is Jeremy. 	
[16:46] <Guest18657> hello
[16:46] <iscorpion> no one?
[16:46] <markthomas> iscorpion, I'm not sure what you are asking
[16:47] <hellyeah> where is the version number 1:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108M [GeForce GT 425M] (rev a1)
[16:47] <iscorpion> i want to install netbeans8.sh
[16:47] <bazhang> GeForce GT 425M
[16:47] <markthomas> iscorpion, you do not need to "install" a .sh file, as it is likely a shell script.  Very this with cat or less, but you should just be able to run it.
[16:48] <markthomas> iscorpion examples include: "chmod u+x netbeans8.sh && ./netbeans.sh" or "bash netbeans8.sh"
[16:48] <lauri> Hello guys, it seems Apparmor is blocking access to /run/pcscd/pcscd.comm under Ubuntu 14.04 guest account...
[16:48] <markthomas> If you need root, then "sudo bash ./netbeans8.sh"
[16:48] <iscorpion> thanks i just need to change its permission rite?
[16:49] <markthomas> Yes, or pass it as an argument to bash.  If there's no shebang line at the beginning, the latter is probably better.
[16:49] <markthomas> i.e. "#!/bin/bash"
[16:49] <iscorpion> thanku got it :)
[16:49] <_1_sam777> hi
[16:50] <hellyeah> there is a bug in graphic
[16:50] <hellyeah> screen is frozen
[16:52] <CrypticByte> So with Mir is ubuntu going to soon force people to use that touch screen interface
[16:52] <hellyeah> it is like metro?
[16:52] <wheatthin> Touch screen ui is already implemented, are you forced to use it now?
[16:52] <_1_sam777> bye
[16:55] <genii> Devme: Apologies on lag, I am between eating lunch and at the computer right now. dd is a command that you can use to directly copy a file onto something else. So in this case if you have for instance a file called abcd.iso  and the USB stick you want to make is seen by Hoary as /dev/hdb or/dev/hdc or so  then you would do: sudo dd if=abcd.iso of=/dev/hdb   ...the USB name may be different. You can check what it is by doing: dmesg|tail  after plugging
[16:55] <genii> it in the first time
[16:55]  * genii goes back to nomming
[16:55] <surge> hey all
[16:55] <surge> every time i reboot /etc/resolv.conf gets overwritten
[16:56] <surge> is there a fix for this?
[16:56] <surge> sorry, centos user here...not familiar with the leetness of ubuntu
[16:56] <wheatthin> surge, are you using a none gui installation?
[16:56] <surge> yes
[16:56] <surge> server
[16:56] <wheatthin> surge, centos isn't covered here
[16:56] <laz0r> !backbox
[16:56] <surge> 12.04 LTS
[16:56] <wheatthin> ahh ok
[16:56] <surge> i know I'm just saying
[16:56] <wheatthin> surge, ok well network manager still controls the server aspect too
[16:56] <laz0r> Do anyone know if backbox have a irc channel ?
[16:57] <CrypticByte> I swear I love the ubuntu globalmenu but I just dont think I will ever like this ubuntu unity lens stuff
[16:57] <surge> hm...
[16:57] <laz0r> brb need to restart..
[17:00] <luckybunny> ugh... I was resizing my chrome window down (making it smaller) and it suddenly snapped itself to taking up the whole vertical length of the screen. No amount of trying to resize it is working now
[17:00] <smw> is there a way to bulk disable all unity extensions?
[17:01] <smw> This is the biggest thing pissing me off with unity right now. I am using it as my main WM for the first time and it is driving me nuts
[17:01] <smw> I want it to show applications and only applications.
[17:02] <wheatthin> smw, huh?
[17:02] <wheatthin> you wanna try unity tweak?
[17:03] <smw> wheatthin, that sounds promising.
[17:03] <wheatthin> But if you mean stuff like UI tweaking, then you'll look into ccsm
[17:03] <wheatthin> to tweak compiz to your liking
[17:03] <smw> wheatthin, no, I want the scopes gone
[17:03] <smw> wheatthin, like searching amazon and the like
[17:04] <wheatthin> ahh, disable lenses
[17:04] <smw> yes
[17:04] <smw> I want them all gone
[17:04] <wheatthin> http://askubuntu.com/questions/107701/how-to-disable-lenses-in-the-in-the-dash-menu
[17:05] <kostkon> smw, in 14.04 you can disable any scopes you like, just click on Filter
[17:05] <smw> kostkon, I do, and they keep coming back
[17:05] <charly_> Hi everybody
[17:05] <kostkon> smw, hmm, it should remember your choices
[17:05] <charly_> I need some help, new @ ubuntustudio
[17:06] <smw> kostkon, is there any way to bulk disable all of them permanently. It seems incapable of remembering
[17:06] <CrypticByte> Well I found out that KDE has a global app menu that sits in a top panel maybe with some tweaks I can get it to function near like ubuntu's global menu
[17:06] <TuxRescue> into what directory would you install a chroot system?
[17:06] <smw> kostkon, it seems to pick lenses (scopes?) based on what I type
[17:06] <smw> kostkon, and ignore the fact I keep telling it no
[17:07] <smw> wheatthin, how do I do it using the tweak tool?
[17:07] <kostkon> smw, you can always disable online searches in your privacy settings
[17:07] <wheatthin> I'm sure google has better information on the unity tweak tool
[17:07] <skinux> I need some help mounting my home directory from another installation (partition). It's encrypted by ecryptfs
[17:07] <smw> kostkon, where?
[17:08] <kostkon> smw, system settings -> privacy
[17:08] <smw> found it
[17:08] <smw> good start, but I want to disable everything :-)
[17:08] <bazhang> !info unity-tweak-tool | smw
[17:08] <smw> kostkon, thanks a ton :-)
[17:09] <kostkon> smw, np
[17:09] <smw> unity is still buggy as hell, but that was the biggest problem
[17:09] <charly_> Please I need help, just install ubuntustudio for the first time, and can go up on my screen resolution
[17:10] <wheatthin> I don't think ubuntu studio is supported anymore
[17:10] <charly_> really ? is 14.04 LTS version
[17:10] <wheatthin> however, if you have your graphics drivers installed, then dkms should be working to see your different resolutions available
[17:11] <charly_> don't know how to instal drivers, Macbookpro 13" thru Parallels
[17:11] <Beldar> charly_, It is supported and it has a channel #ubuntustudio
[17:11] <luckybunny> ah
[17:11] <Beldar> supported here as well
[17:11] <luckybunny> seems like my window snapping thing was a problem with chrome, not ubuntu
[17:11] <charly_> thanks Beldar
[17:12] <luckybunny> restarting chrome let me do my vertical resize I wanted
[17:12] <Beldar> no problem charlesburton
[17:12] <Beldar> charly_,  ^^^^^^^^^^^
[17:12] <Beldar> close
[17:13] <wheatthin> nice.. <-- was under the impression they stopped supported it, which is why libdvdcss2 wasn't in the repos
[17:13] <inqilab> hello
[17:14] <Beldar> wheatthin, You may be right, I am assuming it is supported and not considered a derivatives
[17:15] <wheatthin> they have a dvd installer for it.. so I'm guessing it gained it's support back or something
[17:19] <CrypticByte> is there a way to change how long a notification last on the screen
[17:25] <meek_geek> how do you do ?
[17:26] <Beldar> meek_geek, Excellent, do you have a support issue. ;)
[17:29] <meek_geek> Beldar, yep look i have low powered CPU 1 ghz dual core with lots of extra ram ... can I use it to optimize my PC?
[17:33] <Beldar> meek_geek, Not sure what you mean by optimize, is it a question will ubuntu run well on this computer?
[17:34] <wheatthin> depending on your graphics card processing power, you can range from a full bloated install to a slim down WM like xfce4
[17:34] <meek_geek> Beldar, no can i use extra RAM to speed up Ubuntu ?
[17:34] <holstein> meek_geek: no.. extra ram does what extra ram does
[17:34] <Beldar> meek_geek, More ram is good, depends on what is running, I always max the ram out.
[17:35] <wheatthin> meebeyx, ram will definitely help it be more stable.. as far as speeding up, you might look into preload or osmething
[17:35] <meek_geek> wheatthin, what ? Preload ?
[17:35] <holstein> meek_geek: there is no reason *not* to max out the ram in any system.. it is not a magic cure for making the machine "faster".. its ths ame machine with more ram
[17:35] <Beldar> meek_geek, If it is swapping and that is the slow than more ram will make that a better situation.
[17:36] <funtable> Easy to know, open in ubuntu : System Monitor and look your memory use
[17:36] <mm48> hello
[17:37] <funtable> if using 100% and more than 10% of swap. More memory will be good
[17:37] <mm48> !list
[17:37] <wheatthin> I have 422mb swapped but only 3.3gb of ram out of 10 used, so how does that help?
[17:37] <meek_geek> my ram use is 1 GB - 1.5 GB and 4.4 gb is free
[17:38] <Beldar> wheatthin, Sounds like you might change the swap top a lower number if you have not.
[17:38] <Beldar> to*
[17:38] <mm48> !bot
[17:38] <wheatthin> can you control the min/max swap?
[17:39] <Beldar> wheatthin, To some extent the amount when it starts to swap, is all I know.
[17:39] <Beldar> wheatthin, the swappiness
[17:40] <Beldar> I have a ssd does not even slow down when swapping
[17:40] <ani_> ultisa
[17:41] <charlesburton> wheatthin check this website https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq and look for the part about swappiness.  That's the parameter that tells the system when to use swap or not
[17:42] <charlesburton> if you want to force your system to vacate swap just run swapoff -a as root
[17:42] <charlesburton> it'll move everything that's in swap out of it and turn it off, then run swapon -a to turn it back on
[17:42] <Beldar> How does one kill a parted process  ran sudo parted /dev/sda and incorrectly closed
[17:43] <charlesburton> ps -ef | grep parted
[17:43] <causative> I have a problem, in 14.04 the "alt" key brings up a "type your command" box, but this is broken for emacs which uses alt for other things
[17:43] <charlesburton> kill <pid>
[17:43] <fishscene> killall -9 parted
[17:44] <Beldar> charlesburton, which is the pid, lol
[17:44] <Beldar> lol a\t myself
[17:45] <fishscene> That's what the "ps -ef | grep parted" command does. It grabs the PID of the process called "parted"
[17:45] <Beldar> heh sudo kilall parted worked
[17:46] <Beldar> killall*
[17:46] <Beldar> thanks
[17:47] <Glorfindel> I need some help opening a read only file to edit without changing ownership
[17:48] <charlesburton> just for clarification ps -ef | grep <process> name returns any processes that have that name.  It'll have a 6 columns, the first one is the pid or process id the second is the process parent.  Never kill the process parent if it's 1 or 0
[17:48] <wheatthin> hmm that doc doesn't explain how to limit it after installation.. I have 10gb of swap space already.. and 10gb of ram
[17:48] <charlesburton> you mean resize swap?
[17:48] <charlesburton> or limit how it gets used?
[17:49] <wheatthin> limit how it gets used
[17:49] <Beldar> charlesburton, Thanks it is rare I would run a sudo check like that E.g. parted
[17:49] <charlesburton> the part where it says to edit the /etc/sysctrl.conf file is what will persist through a reboot
[17:49] <Beldar> Glorfindel, Helps if you tell the channel the file.
[17:50] <Glorfindel> hang on a sec
[17:50] <charlesburton> so the part where it runs sudo sysctl vm.swappiness=10
[17:50] <charlesburton> that will change it while the system is running
[17:50] <charlesburton> gksudo gedit /etc/sysctl.conf will make it persist through a reboot
[17:50] <Glorfindel> it is /etc/ircd/ircd.conf
[17:52] <Beldar> Glorfindel, This an added conf I do not see it in my 14.04
[17:52] <Glorfindel> its for an irc server
[17:52] <Glorfindel> I also have 12.10 BTW
[17:53] <Beldar> Glorfindel, If it is okay to modify while running you would sudo if in the cli like vim to it or gksudo gedit path to file
[17:53] <Beldar> Glorfindel, 12.10 is eol, this what you re working on?
[17:54] <Glorfindel> eol?
[17:54] <Beldar> !eol
[17:54] <Glorfindel> !eol
[17:54] <Beldar> !12.10
[17:54] <Glorfindel> ok, yes that is what I have
[17:54] <Beldar> Glorfindel, You want a lts probably 12.04 or 14.04
[17:55] <Glorfindel> yeah, its upgrading right now
[17:55] <Beldar> Glorfindel, cool 13.04 is eol so keep going up.
[17:56] <Khrome> Can anyone here help me with a grub2  gpt vs mbr issue?
[17:56] <Beldar> 13.10 is eol in july
[17:56] <Glorfindel> ok
[17:56] <Glorfindel> will do
[17:56] <Beldar> Khrome, give us a outline of the issue and what you want and end goals.
[17:56] <Glorfindel> so the command is gksudo gedit /ect/ircd/ircd.cfg?
[17:57] <Beldar> Glorfindel, spell etc right and yes
[17:57] <Beldar> ;)
[17:58] <Khrome> I have a system with let's say 6 drives on it.   enumeration is beyond me, but here's the crux.   1 drive I have a working Windows 7 install on, and I really need to preserve that.  On a separate disk, I have a new 14.04 ubuntu (studio) installation
[17:58] <Glorfindel> :D ok
[17:58] <Glorfindel> I thought it was ect for the longest time so I am trying to get it right
[17:58] <Khrome> and I have grub2 installed and finally working, but I can't get the parameters correct to boot the windows system from drub2
[17:58] <Beldar> Khrome, All msdos now?
[17:58] <holstein> Khrome: i have, in the past, just unplugged drives during install
[17:59] <Beldar> no raid?
[17:59] <Khrome> well, that's the part I'm struggling with.   I haven't done disk diagnostics on linux in a while, but from Windows Disk Manager, all drives LOOK like gpt drives
[17:59] <holstein> Khrome: should be as easy as, installing grub somehwere.. but, you dont have to.. you can select the bios to boot the drive you choose..
[17:59] <Khrome> but the ubuntu install asked where I wanted to install grub2, and thought it puts that in the MBR
[17:59] <Beldar> Khrome, Can you in ubuntu run sudo parted -l and pastebin it?
[17:59] <holstein> Khrome: could be as simple as https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair or just running sudo update-grub
[17:59] <Khrome> Right... I can use my bios to point to different drives, which is how I know both systems are functional
[18:00] <holstein> !grub | Khrome
[18:00] <holstein> Khrome: you can refer to that, to see where you want to put grub, and what might fit your needs
[18:00] <Khrome> but the bios is a little buggy, and always wants to boot the drive that has ubuntu on it (that's why I but ubuntu and grub there, so I can always just let it boot however, and redir3ect with grubs)
[18:00] <holstein> Khrome: you wont fix a "buggy" bios with grub
[18:01] <Khrome> holstein:  I can go into the bios and select HD boot order, but sometimes it doesn't persist.  IT wants to boot this other drive (where I have now installed Ubuntu)
[18:01] <Khrome> and I did that specifically so I could run a boot loader and choose to boot windows if I want
[18:01] <holstein> Khrome: i have, in the past, just chose which i want from the popup menu in the bios
[18:01] <Khrome> that way I don't have to muck with the bios each time, or go into bios to select what drive to boot from
[18:02] <holstein> Khrome: i consider "mucking about in the bios" a way to address what you are trying to do
[18:02] <holstein> Khrome: otherwise, just refer to the links above, and see what fits your needs..
[18:02] <Khrome> Beldar:  One sec.  I'll get the parted output
[18:03] <Beldar> Khrome, Cool, all of what holstein says is true as well.
[18:03] <Khrome> $ more parted.out
[18:03] <Khrome> Model: ATA Samsung SSD 840 (scsi)
[18:03] <Khrome> Disk /dev/sda: 250GB
[18:03] <Khrome> Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
[18:03] <Khrome> Partition Table: msdos
[18:03] <Khrome> Number  Start   End    Size   Type     File system  Flags
[18:03] <unopaste> Khrome you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[18:04] <Beldar> !pastebin | Khrome
[18:04] <ccbn4> Hi, I'm having trouble with Samba and having to rebind with 'net ads join' after every reboot. I found a bug that sheds some light on it, but there's no fix. I was wondering if anyone might have some idea on how to fix this without waiting for an official bug fix. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/1291951
[18:05] <Khrome> sorry,  I'm rusty.  Haven't used irc in ages
[18:05] <Beldar> no biggie Khrome
[18:05] <Khrome> so now I see that one disk is msdos the other is gpt
[18:06] <Beldar> Khrome, That is the crux of your issue
[18:06] <Khrome> yeah, I figured that.   This wasn't as visible on the windows side.    So which is 'better' ? msdos or gpt?  can I even revert to msdos with a gpt disk?
[18:07] <Beldar> Khrome, Might be some workaround, but I would use one or the other
[18:07] <holstein> Khrome: "better" is a matter of opinion and use case. there are facts that make one way preferrable for you or not
[18:07] <Beldar> Khrome, Both have their uses, depends on what you need
[18:07] <Khrome> The Vertex3 is my windows drive, so the ultimate question is, can I convert to gpt without ruining the bootblock?
[18:08] <Almano> hello. i have some issues with mine new ubuntu + kde-desktop. Music players freak out i can not use multimedia keys on my keybard to change volume it change only master volume but player volume is the samecan someone help me?
[18:08] <Khrome> This is a home system, so I don't think I have any needs that would lead me one direction or the other.
[18:08] <Beldar> Khrome, I hae remove gpt links, I will have to look for a convert to I doubt it is easily done.
[18:09] <Jordan_U> Khrome: Windows can't boot from a GPT drive via BIOS (GNU/Linux can).
[18:09] <Khrome> my Bios seems to recognize gpt, because if I look in the HD boot order "Fedora" and now "Ubuntu" are listed (I had fedora installed on the gpt disk previously).
[18:09] <bprompt> Almano:    music players "freak out" ?
[18:09] <holstein> Khrome: ask the maintainers of the OS, though, i wouldnt personally consider the benifits worth the hassle.. when i can just press a key at boot and select the drive i want to boot
[18:09] <Khrome> so it's nice to see what OS is loaded on a disk, from that perspective
[18:09] <Khrome> holstein: I see your point.
[18:10] <Jordan_U> Khrome: I think the more important difference between the installations is that your GNU/Linux installations are configured to boot via UEFI, and your Windows installation is configured to boot via BIOS.
[18:10] <Khrome> Jordan_U: I wondered about that
[18:10] <Beldar> Khrome, Rods books are the bomb I have the gpt to msdos, here appears to be the reverse, back it up first. https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=62984
[18:10] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | Khrome
[18:10] <Almano> yeah. its strange because master volume is changing ( i can see it on desktop) but volume of player do not change
[18:11] <bprompt> Almano:     I think the volume on the keyboard multimedia buttons are for master, I don't think they're for individual players per se
[18:12] <Almano> in kmix i can see that i  have 2 audio deices barts hdmi and included audio analog stereo
[18:12] <Almano> mby thats the problem
[18:13] <bprompt> Almano:     hmm I only have one, the audio analog entry
[18:14] <guideX> is ubuntu 12.10 upgradeable
[18:14] <daftykins> guideX: it'd be easier to reinstall afresh
[18:14] <guideX> I bet not..
[18:14] <guideX> damnit..
[18:14] <Almano> one is from mine radeon hd 6850 but its inactive. I am using included in motherboard
[18:14] <guideX> this jkeeps happening, my ubuntu's keep expiring
[18:14] <Khrome> Jordan_U:  I just found an article on msdn that says that 64bit Vista and Windows 7 can boot from GPT disks, on UEFI-based motherboards
[18:14] <guideX> I don't use it enough to update it all the time, it sucks you guys don't support older versions
[18:14] <Glorfindel> Yes you can upgrade 12.10
[18:14] <daftykins> guideX: pick 14.04 as LTS then you'll be fine for years :)
[18:14] <Almano> how can i set as main the analog stereo one?
[18:14] <Glorfindel> I am right now
[18:15] <daftykins> !eol | guideX
[18:15] <daftykins> guideX: nah, i'd say it sucks that users don't read up on support lengths prior to installing
[18:15] <guideX> ubottu: it happens too fast with ubuntu
[18:15] <daftykins> it's all about LTS.
[18:15] <Beldar> guideX, We are not you guys but volunteers.
[18:15] <bprompt> guideX:    why not grab 12.04?   is lts
[18:15] <daftykins> guideX: see the link about upgrading. it's a bot.
[18:15] <Jordan_U> guideX: If you had been using 12.04 instead of 12.10 you'd still have a supported system.
[18:16] <guideX> ah ok.. I guess I keep grabbing the wrong version, somehow it should be more prominant that the version I keep choosing will be throw away in a short time
[18:16] <anishram> how create a user without password
[18:16] <Beldar> anishram, an admin user?
[18:16] <ratmav> i'm trying to forward traffic over port 80 to a kvm guest on a different port.
[18:16] <ratmav> i've tried this: http://serverfault.com/questions/170079/forwarding-ports-to-guests-in-libvirt-kvm. still not working. any suggestions?
[18:17] <Loshki> guideX: we have the same problem everyone else has. Too many versions makes it really difficult to give support...
[18:17] <Almano> how can i disable one of two audio device in mine pc?
[18:17] <guideX> the problem for me is, I don't use linux enough to know when updates are out.. so literally every time I load my ubuntu, it's expired, and I have to re-setup my environment all over again, and that's time consuming and hard
[18:17] <jvarcaba> Hey, anyone else gets kernel panic when trying to update 14.04 ?
[18:18] <guideX> I need to move to something which doesn't update so rapidly, or has a longer suipport lifetime
[18:18] <daftykins> guideX: that's true of every OS you don't use regularly.
[18:18] <guideX> they all expire, but ubuntu expires FAST
[18:18] <Beldar> guideX, Find the releases page and when eol and bookmark it
[18:18] <Jordan_U> guideX: Then stick to LTS releases of Ubuntu.
[18:18] <jvarcaba> Hey, anyone else gets kernel panic when trying to update 14.04 ?
[18:18] <daftykins> guideX: yes and it's called an LTS version, 12.04 and 14.04.
[18:19] <guideX> that's a sucky policy imo
[18:19] <daftykins> guideX: please stop whinging
[18:19] <Loshki> guideX: its unclear any other policy is workable in practice...
[18:19] <guideX> sorry, i'm just upset, I keep having to go tjhrough this and it takes eons to re-setup...
[18:20] <Almano> how can i change menu in ubuntu + kde-desktop?
[18:20] <daftykins> guideX: right, so what's more productive to get that task complete, repeating yourself over and over or getting an LTS installed ?
[18:20]  * Beldar loves externalized blame
[18:21] <bprompt> guideX:     keep in mind that the october version, october 10th month, thus the "xx.10" versions, have only 12month support, whiile the april, 4th month, "xx.04", have 5 years or so of support
[18:22] <guideX> for someone who's not familiar, that's a really sucky way to do things.. it wasn't obvious when I was installing it, the last three times
[18:22] <bprompt> guideX:     well, there's  first time for everything... so now you do know  :)
[18:23] <charlesburton> bprompt it's only even number *.04 releases that have 5 years of support
[18:23] <bprompt> ahhh ok... yeah, I know 13.04 expired in january, sounds right
[18:24] <Istalantar> Hello. When I start my computer and arrive at the login screen, my system has a weird choice of screen resolution (3 monitor), as soon as I log in its okay... my question now is, is there any way to make the system choose the right monitor and resolution at login screen?
[18:24] <bprompt> guideX:     so april just passed, you can grab a 14.04 iso :)
[18:25] <guideX> I can't, I'm stuck in this old unsupported crap again, because it took so long to figure how to get the older zend frameworks setup
[18:25] <guideX> before I was stuck in 8.04 or something, because it wouldn't upgrade either
[18:25] <guideX> keeps happening, pissing me off a lot
[18:25] <guideX> took forever just to get 12.10 working, now it's junk :<
[18:25] <charlesburton> I'd recommend you stick with LTS releases then,  you're the perfect candidate for them
[18:25] <Beldar> Istalantar, What is the right monitor, the one you have made right?
[18:26] <Jordan_U> guideX: You have two options 1: Folloe the EOL upgrade instructions or 2: Install 14.04 LTS from scratch. If you keep complaining unproductively then you will be removed from the channel.
[18:28] <Istalantar> Beldar: Well, yes, te one i want to have as main monitor
[18:28] <Beldar> Istalantar, Ah so I suspected, not sure the process or if there is even one.
[18:29] <Beldar> move them around so the one that works is correct
[18:29] <charlesburton> Istalantar
[18:29] <charlesburton> http://askubuntu.com/questions/360886/personalize-monitor-position-before-login
[18:29] <charlesburton> That's an XML file you can modify
[18:30] <Istalantar> Beldar: not possible, i have 2 dvi inputs and 1 hdmi .. and its always the hdmi which is choosen as main
[18:30] <Istalantar> charlesburton: thx, i'll have a look at it
[18:30] <Beldar> Istalantar, looks like charlesburton has the OCD link for yah
[18:31] <charlesburton> +
[18:31] <chrissso> hey guys, I have a problem with rights or something in ubuntu. I cant move files into trash from my /home partition. other partitions like /data etc do that without problem. It always says I have to delete them immidiatly.
[18:33] <Beldar> chrissso, you running in root
[18:33] <chrissso> Beldar: i belive so
[18:33] <Beldar> chrissso, This a server?
[18:33] <chrissso> Beldar: no
[18:33] <chrissso> Beldar: just regular ubuntu, one user
[18:34] <Beldar> chrissso, Not sure we are on the same page by running in root, but ubuntu is not run in root.
[18:34] <chrissso> Beldar: ok yes that I'm not on root permanently.
[18:34] <chrissso> Beldar: sorry
[18:35] <Beldar> chrissso, Waht does lsb_release -a show
[18:36] <chrissso> Beldar: i coppied that in terminal but it doesnt work. is that the excat spelling
[18:36] <Beldar> chrissso, if you are tring to put something from home in the trash in a root terminal or sudo that is the issue
[18:36] <Beldar> chrissso, lsb_release -a
[18:37] <chrissso> Beldar: it says no LSB mudoles available and than shows the version of ubuntu etc
[18:37] <daftykins> anything else?
[18:37] <Beldar> chrissso, show the whole output
[18:37] <daftykins> how about "cat /etc/issue"
[18:38] <Beldar> or cat /etc/issue as daftykins shows
[18:38] <chrissso> Beldar: http://justpaste.it/fuf0
[18:39] <chrissso> Beldar: I'm logged into as regular user. no root.  when I'm in nautilus (no sudo used) I cant move files to trash
[18:39] <Beldar> chrissso, Cool, so you understand no root or sudo for putting home things to trash? a right click and to trash would be easier
[18:39] <chrissso> Beldar: It says: Unable to create trashing info file: Permission denied
[18:40] <Beldar> chrissso, Hmm, not sure than, maybe others can find the answer.
[18:41] <chrissso> hey guys, I have a problem with rights or something in ubuntu. I cant move files into trash from my /home partition. other partitions like /data etc do that without problem. It always says I have to delete them immidiatly.
[18:42] <charlesburton> run a command like this in the terminal, replacing <username> with your username ls -ld /home/<username>/.local/share/Trash/
[18:42] <jackarg> Hi there, I'm trying to use prime to switch to nvidia in 14.04 and I get this error: Error: alternatives are not set up properly Error: nvidia mode can't be enabled           any help?
[18:42] <daftykins> jackarg: did you follow a guide?
[18:42] <jackarg> daftykins: for what?
[18:43] <jackarg> daftykins: for the error? I can't find one that I understand
[18:43] <daftykins> jackarg: to setup nvidia prime.
[18:43] <chrissso> charlesburton: command works but still no change with the deleting
[18:43] <jackarg> daftykins: Weirdly enough it was already there.
[18:43] <charlesburton> it's not a change
[18:43] <daftykins> jackarg: what specifically?
[18:43] <charlesburton> I need to see the output
[18:44] <charlesburton> sorry, should have specified
[18:44] <charlesburton> it'll show what the permissions are on your trash directory
[18:44] <jackarg> daftykins: it's the first time in ubuntu that it detects my driver. So I can use nvidia by selection that. The prime thing is just "nvidia x server settings", a gui that lets me switch between intel and nvidia
[18:45] <jackarg> and it has nvidia-settings config as well as app profiles
[18:45] <daftykins> jackarg: i think it requires a bit more setup than that - look up a prime guide and follow it for your version maybe.
[18:46] <daftykins> jackarg: obviously something is missing / misconfigured
[18:46] <jackarg> daftykins: any guide for 14.04 will work?
[18:46] <daftykins> jackarg: i have no way of knowing that.
[18:48] <Rimminen> I can't figure out how to enable mcrypt with PHP5 :/
[18:48] <jackarg> daftykins:  know a good guide?
[18:48] <daftykins> jackarg: i'd have linked you if i did
[18:48] <chrissso> charlesburton: I was looking for me trash folder. I have only one .Trash1000 folder and thats in my /data partition. I have the rights to delete and stuff on this folder
[18:48] <Rimminen> Asked about it earlier here, any ideas?
[18:48] <charlesburton> chrisso, if you past the output of that command somewhere so I can see it I might be able to figure out your problem
[18:48] <Rimminen> I have installed mcrypt with apt-get
[18:48] <charlesburton> ahhhh
[18:48] <charlesburton> there's your problem then
[18:48] <charlesburton> is /data on a different partition entirely?
[18:48] <Rimminen> And I have the mcrypt.ini file
[18:49] <Rimminen> and there is a [mcrypt] part in my php.ini file
[18:49] <charlesburton> if so, that's your problem
[18:49] <chrissso> charlesburton: /data is a different partition. its not in /home
[18:49] <charlesburton> you'll have to use .Trash on the same filesystem as your /home directory
[18:50] <charlesburton> it won't cross partitions
[18:50] <daftykins> Rimminen: first of all, spreading your question over several lines won't get help easily. second, try #ubuntu-server also
[18:51] <chrissso> charlesburton: I'm now in /home/chris/.local/share/Trash there are two folder "files" and "info". I cant excess any of these two
[18:52] <charlesburton> Ok
[18:52] <charlesburton> Replacing <username> with  your username run chown -R <username>:<username> /home/chris/.local/share
[18:52] <Orpheon> Hello ubuntu, is there an easy way to dualboot on a system already full of windows?
[18:53] <Orpheon> or do I have to manually resize everything with gparted?
[18:53] <bprompt> Orpheon:    you mean the windows partition is using the whole available hdd and you want to install ubuntu in that hdd?
[18:54] <Orpheon> bprompt, there are 4 partitions, windows and associated tools (recovery stuff)
[18:54] <genii> Orpheon: The most reliable way is to do the resizing. Some people use Wubi to install Ubuntu underneath of Windows but it's not really recommended
[18:55] <bprompt> Orpheon:     the ones the machine was originally shipped with?   the "recovery partition" from the vendor, right?
[18:55] <chrissso> charlesburton: It works now. I just changed the rights of the two folders in there
[18:55] <Orpheon> yes
[18:55] <charlesburton> chrissso:  Awesome!
[18:55] <jackarg> Ok I have another problem I'm getting this after trying to install something: dpkg: error processing package linux-firmware Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[18:56] <Orpheon> what does it mean if gparted shows in the resizing screen the same min and max values of a partition?
[18:56] <Orpheon> do I have to create an empty partition with 0 width after it?
[18:58] <daftykins> jackarg: please use paste.ubuntu.com to show full output rather than just part
[18:58] <bprompt> Orpheon:     well. .. as genii  already said, you'd need to move some things about... so.... I'd hose the "recovery partition", BECAUSE the recovery partition usually has some mapping to a code run from the BIOS, so some key-combination triggers and access it the recovery partition... now... resizing or changing the system, will throw off that code/script and I think it no longer would work.... so,  you'd end up resizing moving parti
[18:59] <jackarg> Ok so this is what I get when trying to install a package (here, prime-indicator) can anyone please help me? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7640271/
[18:59] <bprompt> Orpheon:    as far as the recovery bit.... when done, I'd "image" the windows partition, and then you can rely on that if anything happens to the windows system and need to redo
[19:00] <iman> Hi, I have ubuntu server and some times in a day my server gets slow, I am thinking someone is attacking my server, can u let me know how can I monitor server bandwidth or something like that to understand what happen for my server
[19:00] <daftykins> iman: #ubuntu-server
[19:01] <iman> I use nload but i just show me incoming and outgoing
[19:01] <iman> daftykins: ok
[19:01] <bprompt> jackarg:     does "sudo apt-get check"   say anything about errors?
[19:03] <jackarg> bprompt: nope
[19:03] <bprompt> jackarg:    so you get the error on running "sudo dpkg -i PACKAGE"  then?
[19:03] <andreas_> Hi. I have just installed Ubuntu 14.04 64bit at my new dell. However I have several important problems with Ubuntu I didn't have with Windows.
[19:03] <andreas_> The one is that my Dell's fan is constantly spinning
[19:04] <andreas_> and I have no idea how to fix that
[19:04] <genii> jackarg: Might try sudo apt-get purge linux-firmware     and then try to install prime-indicator again
[19:04] <jackarg> genii: but it isn't only with prime-indicator
[19:05] <andreas_> I also found that several people online had the same problem, but I couldn't find any good solution
[19:05] <andreas_> Can somebody help me?
[19:05] <jackarg> bprompt: I'm not sure what you mean. Should I just put in any app for "package" ?
[19:05] <genii> jackarg: "<jackarg> OK so this is what I get when trying to install a package (here, prime-indicator) can anyone please help me? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7640271/ "
[19:05] <bprompt> jackarg:     hmm try as genii  said, "purge" the package first.it may just be some old configuration entry issue
[19:06] <Beldar> andreas_, Possible help, be patient, better spinning than not at this point.
[19:07] <jackarg> genii: bprompt sorry, I didn't mean it was specific to that package. I get the error everytime I use apt-get I think. Should I still purge it?
[19:07] <jackarg> purge linux-firmware?
[19:07] <daftykins> jackarg: sudo apt-get remove --purge linux-firmware
[19:08] <jackarg> what is linux-firmware anyway?
[19:08] <andreas_> Yeah, but is very noisy, and my battery now lasts for an hour and a half, while at whindows that was over 2 hours... Probably because of that
[19:08] <genii> jackarg: I would perhaps then purge it, then sudo apt-get install linux-firmware   ( since it might be a prerequisite to other things that currently are on hold to be installed)
[19:09] <genii> daftykins: I don't think you need the two dashes
[19:09] <daftykins> o rly
[19:09]  * daftykins reads up
[19:09] <jackarg> Ok no more errors! Now back to trying to fix nvidia prime
[19:14] <jackarg> IT ALL WORKS GUYS! Something happened and now I can switch from my nvidia to intel card and vice versa flawlessly with the prime-indicator applet!
[19:14] <jackarg> Thank you!
[19:17] <Lrrr1> is there a way to downgrade 14.04 to an older version
[19:17] <Lrrr1> like... let's say 12.04LTS
[19:18] <bprompt> Lrrr1:    don't think so
[19:18] <Lrrr1> bleh ok
[19:18] <Lrrr1> guess i'm doing a fresh install
[19:19] <pavlos> Lrrr1, backup your data first
[19:19] <bprompt> Lrrr1:     I'd just install 12.04 from, just don't forget to keep your $HOME folder, where all the settings are
[19:21] <Lrrr1> no need... I only just installed it.. the only thing I've done is set a static IP
[19:21] <Lrrr1> it'd just be as quick to do it with 12.04 and set it up
[19:21] <Lrrr1> i was about to install FOG but apparently it does not work on 14.04
[19:21] <Lrrr1> :-(
[19:22] <daftykins> whoops.
[19:24] <Lrrr1> i would have saved myself some time if i bothered to read the first lines in the wiki for FOG under Ubuntu 14.04
[19:24] <Lrrr1> DO NOT USE THIS VERSION OF LINUX, IT IS TOO NEW AND THERE ARE ISSUES WITH TFTP UPSTART AGAIN, WHEN TIME ALLOWS AND MAJOR ISSUES WITH FOG HAVE BEEN RESOLVED, WE WILL TACKLE FIXES FOR THE UBUNTU 14.04 OPERATING SYSTEM!
[19:24] <harry2> I'm having a problem with Ubuntu and other distros could someone suggest something? My graphics card is going crazy http://oi58.tinypic.com/mtxsp2.jpg
[19:24] <daftykins> Lrrr1: it's lovely hearing your scenario and all that, but i'm afraid this place is support only.
[19:24] <bprompt> Lrrr1:    to fix that just press caps-lock key =P
[19:25] <harry2> Someone please help me out..
[19:26] <bprompt> Lrrr1:  that's true for software support for any OS pretty much, it comes with the territory
[19:26] <daftykins> harry2: is that after ubuntu loads or is it bad from power on, over BIOS screens?
[19:27] <harry2> daftykins: As soon as the splashscreen finishes loading.. That's Fedora by the way but it's doing it with all of the linux distros
[19:27] <daftykins> harry2: so, nobody replying in fedora's channel huh? ;)
[19:28] <harry2> Nobody's replying in the linux channel either.. :(
[19:28] <daftykins> harry2: what graphics hardware and driver then?
[19:28] <bprompt> harry2:    do you happen to have an xorg.conf   file in /etc/X11 directory?
[19:28] <harry2> daftykins: I'm running a 3770k i7 & XFX 7870
[19:29] <harry2> I didn't even install it.. That's the LiveCD
[19:29] <harry2> I couldn't even get that far ;)
[19:29] <daftykins> so it's a new build?
[19:29] <daftykins> harry2: reduce your setup to the most basic, have only one screen connected and see what happens, a video would be nice too.
[19:29] <harry2> Well... Windows runs perfect..
[19:30] <harry2> It doesn't run with only one monitor either..
[19:30] <harry2> Literally.. The splashscreen loads perfectly.. Fedora flashes and then the screen turns to shit like that
[19:30] <daftykins> ok, keep the language family friendly thanks
[19:30] <harry2> I'm sorry
[19:30] <holstein> harry2: try the ubuntu live CD
[19:31] <daftykins> holstein: he already stated that's been done
[19:31] <harry2> I've tried all of the distros, it seems to be a generic problem I'm having with Linux
[19:31] <bprompt> harry2:    at the livecd ubuntu splash menu, I know it has a few  options for starting up..  I think is F6 and F7 and maybe F8   has a few  options.. I know F6 does.... see if turning some things off may bypass any driver issues
[19:31] <daftykins> harry2: what happens when it's booted to live session, then you try to hit a TTY? ctrl+alt+F1
[19:31] <holstein> harry2: its more a problem with teh grahpics hardware and linux support
[19:31] <holstein> harry2: have you tried vesa? you can force vesa with an xorg.conf
[19:32] <harry2> Well, Windows works fine with the graphics card..
[19:32] <holstein> harry2: windows is irrelevant.. you were promised windows support
[19:32] <holstein> harry2: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1270209
[19:32] <harry2> As soon as the splashscreen is down that's it
[19:32] <daftykins> harry2: ok boot a live session with nomodeset, install, then afterwards install the nvidia proprietary driver... perhaps nouveau doesn't work with that card yet
[19:32] <harry2> But I can't install.. It dies as soon as the OS loads
[19:33] <holstein> !mini | harry2
[19:33] <daftykins> harry2: see the bit where i said boot with nomodeset?
[19:33] <daftykins> !nomodeset | harry2
[19:33] <daftykins> do it.
[19:33] <holstein> harry2: that will allow you to install a text mode, where you can then install a desktop and whatever graphics driver you need, that may provide support.. or, try vesa, or nomodeset
[19:34] <mkdmz> My icon is not showing up for my custom mimetype after following this advice:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingMimeTypes
[19:34] <mkdmz> Could someone help find out why?
[19:34] <holstein> mkdmz: any errors?
[19:34] <mkdmz> didn't see anything
[19:35] <harry2> Alright thank you, I'll reboot and try
[19:35] <mkdmz> holstein: Do you mean when I was updating?
[19:35] <holstein> mkdmz: i mean, while following the guide you linked
[19:36] <mkdmz> holstein: No errors at all.  I can click on my file and my app opens it, but I haven't been able to get the icon to be recognized.
[19:38] <mkdmz> holstein: It does ask me to place my icon.svg into the gnome folder, I am using LDXE, would this matter?
[19:38] <holstein> mkdmz: what is your goal?
[19:38] <CREEEPEREXPLOSIV> hola Onia
[19:39] <mkdmz> holstein: Just want my documents to have their icon.  I can click on them ok, and they launch (that part of the tutorial worked)
[19:40] <holstein> mkdmz: i would use lxde specific documetation on setting icons..
[19:41] <mkdmz> holstein: To be a litter more clear, I want the icon representing my mimetype inside pcmanfm to show up.
[19:43] <BuddyBoy> Hello all
[19:43] <BuddyBoy> Anyone know about Hadoop? or whether that's a stupid question?
[19:44] <mkdmz> holstein: Thanks, I'll ask over at lxde
[19:44] <Beldar> BuddyBoy, Address the actual issue for help.
[19:44] <holstein> mkdmz: maybe just http://askubuntu.com/questions/166584/change-filetype-icon-pcmanfm-lxde
[19:47] <Dieud> bonjour
[19:47] <Dark_Viper> Hello, Does anyone know if you can install ubuntu on a chromebooks internal drive but install all programs on a external drive for it to load at start up?
[19:48] <mnt-cr4> hi everybody. I use ambiance theme in unity. after installing kde, I have a theme problem in unity: under the shutdown applet in panel, the texts are dark, they must be light because of the ambiance dark colour. what is the problem and how to fix that?
[19:48] <Beldar> Dark_Viper, An external is going to make that slower
[19:49] <Dark_Viper> yeah, but theres no space on the internal
[19:49] <Beldar> Dark_Viper, I would not bother myself with a chromebook for ubuntu.
[19:50] <Beldar> just a fairly weak platform is qll
[19:50] <Beldar> alL*
[19:50] <holstein> Beldar: its just hardware.. intel hardware
[19:50] <Dieud> hello
[19:50] <holstein> nothing about ubuntu is preventing that, Dark_Viper .. you'll just do the install, and run applications where you like.. though, i would just go with the defaults
[19:50] <Dark_Viper> but is not that bas for what i want it, maybe xubuntu?
[19:50] <Almano> Hello. how can i purify mine linux ubuntu from other desktop enviroments with possibility to keep kubuntu and unity?
[19:50] <holstein> Dark_Viper: xubuntu *is* ubuntu
[19:51] <holstein> !purekde
[19:51] <Almano> those commands do not work
[19:51] <holstein> Almano: "those" ?
[19:51] <Dark_Viper> yes but i assume balder meant that ubuntu is to heavy for the weak specs.
[19:52] <kingdong> I need to provide a way for a user to ONLY edit ip configuration (dhcp, static). What is the prefered way to achieve this ? A jailroot with custom ncurse gui ? a shell script built around wicd-curses ?
[19:52] <Dieud> I'm using ubuntu14.04, but I don't have access root, I have verified the password , it's correct
[19:52] <Almano> those sory : http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntu
[19:52] <holstein> Dark_Viper: are they "weak" specs? i have intel hardware that is quite capable.. check your specs and see if they are up to your requirements
[19:53] <caitanya> dieud: ubuntu uses sudo
[19:53] <Almano> i want just to have plasma and unity desktop. nothing else
[19:53] <holstein> Almano: what is your goal? to get kubuntu and unity, i would either intall kubuntu and add unity, or install ubuntu and add kde..
[19:53] <Almano> i have ubuntu + kde
[19:53] <holstein> Almano: you will need the dependencies of both.. which are many
[19:53] <Dieud> I'm using that command but nothing
[19:53] <Dark_Viper> holstein, I use ubuntu 10.04 on an intel with 1 GB ram and its been more or less enough, a celeron on a chromebook should be a significant upgrade.
[19:53] <holstein> !10.04
[19:54] <Almano> but i have also lubuntu and xubuntu lxqt. I tried some of them and it apeared that unity and kde suit me most
[19:54] <Dark_Viper> holstein, sorry intel atom
[19:54] <Dark_Viper> Yes that why i need to change
[19:54] <holstein> Almano: you can remove what you like, but, its not like those are taking up resources in the background
[19:55] <Wnt> I installed the package gimp-plugin-registry to get the Resynthesizer plugin to Gimp, but I cannot find the "Smart remove selection" from the Enhance menu. Is it not provided by the gimp-plugin-registry package?
[19:55] <mnt-cr4> theme problem in unity in 1404. I use ambiance theme in unity. after installing kde, I have a theme problem in unity: under the shutdown applet in panel, the texts are dark, they must be light because of the ambiance dark colour. what is the problem and how to fix that?
[19:55] <Almano> but they r in menu ( lubuntu software center etc.)
[19:55] <Almano> and in logon screen i have may enviroments
[19:55] <holstein> Almano: sure.... remove what you like, or hide what you like
[19:55] <holstein> Almano: you can use the package manager of your choice
[19:55] <Almano> 2 x lxqt
[19:56] <Almano> 4 lubuntu
[19:56] <Almano> thats anoying
[19:56] <holstein> Almano: feel free and remove what you like..
[19:56] <holstein> !purge-ppa
[19:56] <holstein> Almano: ^ that can help purge the ones you added sources for that are not offically supported
[19:57] <Almano> hmmm i am newbie and thats seems to be difficult ;/
[19:58] <Almano> but ill try
[19:58] <mnt-cr4> unity --replace fixed that!
[20:00] <holstein> Almano: it can be.. at some point, i would consider in the future, experimenting with live CD's, and installations in virtualbox.. and maybe just take the path of least resistance, which may be a fresh install in your case
[20:00] <holstein> though, a few menu items and login sessions are not taking up any system resources, and just using nominal hard drive space
[20:01] <Almano> ill try to use that purge ppa
[20:02] <Almano> dominik@Master:~$ sudo ppa-purge ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa
[20:02] <Almano> sudo: ppa-purge: command not found
[20:03] <daftykins> Almano: install it
[20:03] <Almano> ok
[20:04] <Almano> dominik@Master:~$ sudo ppa-purge ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa
[20:04] <Almano> sudo: ppa-purge: command not found
[20:04] <Almano> in that way?
[20:04] <Almano> sorry sudo apt-get install  ppa-purge ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa
[20:05] <holstein> Almano: you have to install ppa-purge to use it..
[20:05] <Almano> ok
[20:05] <holstein> Almano: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ppa-purge
[20:05] <holstein> Almano: but, just use the package manager you are comfortable using to remove what you like
[20:05] <holstein> Almano: or, leave your running system alone, and use it as-is, and do better next time
[20:06] <masoudborbor> hi everybody. I got dark text on dark color ambiance unity theme. when I restart unity (--replace or restart) it get fixed but after logging out and in again, the problem is there again
[20:06] <holstein> addressing these minor annoyances that dont recover any system speed can break the system
[20:06] <holstein> masoudborbor: i would reset my unity congif and see what happens
[20:06] <masoudborbor> holstein, thanks. how to do that
[20:06] <holstein> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[20:07] <Almano> ok mby would u like to tell me how to edit list of avaliable desktop enviroments from login screen?
[20:07] <masoudborbor> tx
[20:07] <holstein> Almano: i just select the one i want.. there is no "list" correct? you just have an icon to select them?.. you dont see a long list from login
[20:08] <Almano> when i want to select different i have long list of avaliable de.
[20:08] <Almano> 2 diferent lxqt 4 different lubuntu 2 x xubuntu 1 unity 11 plasma
[20:08] <Almano> 1 plasma and 1 default
[20:08] <holstein> Almano: i understand, but there is not a long list listed.. and you want access to them
[20:09] <Almano> i just want to have only 2 available
[20:09] <holstein> Almano: i would remove what i dont want..
[20:10] <holstein> Almano: http://askubuntu.com/questions/81161/how-to-remove-session-entries-from-lightdm assuming you are using lightdm..
[20:10] <Almano> ok i am now lost.. sory english is not my native language and sometimes i am confused with some ways of thinking
[20:11] <masoudborbor> holstein, that didnt work :(
[20:11] <Almano> when i instaled xubuntu it changed to xubntu login screen
[20:11] <masoudborbor> holstein, better to say it did temporarily, but after logging in, it did not
[20:11] <holstein> masoudborbor: ok.. so, you know the user config is not likely the issue.. did you add PPA's?
[20:11] <Almano> and now i do not know why ho it is called
[20:11] <holstein> Almano: only you know, friend..
[20:12] <masoudborbor> holstein, I think I did
[20:12] <bprompt> Almano:     what are you trying to remove now?
[20:12] <masoudborbor> holstein, to add something common... let me remove them first
[20:12] <holstein> bprompt: has a list of kde and lxqt sessions
[20:12] <Almano> now just i want to shorten that list:)
[20:12] <holstein> Almano: but, you shouldnt..
[20:12] <Almano> why?
[20:12] <holstein> Almano: you want access to them,a nd the link i gave tells you how to do what you are asking
[20:13] <holstein> Almano: http://askubuntu.com/questions/81161/how-to-remove-session-entries-from-lightdm
[20:13] <Almano> ill take a look
[20:13] <holstein> Almano: please do.. it specificially addresses what you are asking for, which i personally suggest you not do
[20:13] <masoudborbor> holstein, I just removed them and reloaded apt-get
[20:14] <masoudborbor> now restart unity again?
[20:14] <Almano> but i have different look of login screen
[20:14] <CREEEPEREXPLOSIV> hi
[20:14] <holstein> Almano: only you know what login screen you have, friend.. look and confirm, and ask the volunteers here about it.. or try the one i linked.. or reinstall. or use the system as-is
[20:15] <Almano> ok ill try
[20:16] <bprompt> Almano:    hmmm    you want to run the lxde window  manager?
[20:16] <masoudborbor> holstein, not again :(
[20:16] <holstein> masoudborbor: please use details
[20:17] <masoudborbor> holstein, what do u mean by details plz
[20:17] <holstein> masoudborbor: anything that can help a volunteer here assist you.. when you say "not again".. i dont know what you are talking about
[20:18] <masoudborbor> holstein, achso! the dark text problem on dark color unity panel
[20:18] <bprompt> Almano:     ... you want to... run lxde window manager but .... kde apps,   is that about right?
[20:18] <masoudborbor> holstein, u told me about the ppa ... I removed any new pa I added recently, restarted unity, it was fixed
[20:18] <masoudborbor> but when logged out.in again
[20:18] <masoudborbor> the problem was there
[20:18] <holstein> masoudborbor: but, you changed the theme to faciliate that change.. correct?
[20:19] <masoudborbor> holstein, the theme is ambiance, and it was before
[20:19] <Almano> no. I had changed by xubuntu  login screen.  I want to have only ubuntu with unity + kde
[20:20] <holstein> masoudborbor: what did you do to make these changes?
[20:21] <holstein> Almano: thin them out in the login screen as you wish..
[20:21] <masoudborbor> Almano, if you mean you want only kde in your login screen you can remove every other entries in login screen by going to /usr/share/xsessions/ and renaming every while file you want from *.desktop to x.desktop.backup
[20:22] <masoudborbor> holstein, I just went to software and updates and unchecked the ppa's
[20:22] <Almano> i am doin that:) we will  se if that will works:)
[20:22] <masoudborbor> holstein, but I did nothing to the theme
[20:22] <holstein> masoudborbor: unchecking ppa's doenst remove the 3rd party packages that you installed
[20:23] <holstein> !info ppa-purge
[20:23] <bprompt> Almano:     sounds to me you just needed "ubuntu" no xubuntu.... well..    I think you can change the "desktop manager" for the login in the kde settings
[20:23] <holstein> masoudborbor: im talking about, what you did in the first place to make the colors chage to what you are trying to "Fix" now
[20:23] <masoudborbor> aha ... I just installed kde beside unity
[20:23] <Almano> how i can do this?
[20:24] <masoudborbor> maybe some other little apps like grub-customizer
[20:24] <holstein> Almano: i would confirm what login manager you are using, and thin out the sessions as i please in it
[20:24] <Almano> so i  am using similar to taht one
[20:25] <Almano> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Yc1DpToCRYk/T5qgPMijKFI/AAAAAAAAALg/Z2MF6NUxmhc/s1600/2.jpg
[20:25] <masoudborbor> holstein, I just installed kde, and grub-customizer as I remember
[20:25] <holstein> Almano: have you tried this , friend? http://askubuntu.com/questions/81161/how-to-remove-session-entries-from-lightdm
[20:26] <Almano> i am doin this
[20:27] <masoudborbor> holstein, tank you for the time u share btw
[20:28] <mukbhu> hello everyone....
[20:29] <mukbhu> got a problem here.... i updated my 12.10 recently.. it seems that librsvg-2-2 had some problem... now i want to manually downgrade it... how is it done?
[20:30] <holstein> masoudborbor: no problem.. which i could be more help..
[20:31] <mukbhu> anybody....?? any info about manual downgrading?
[20:31] <genii> mukbhu: If it can be done at all... it would be by finding out the exact version you need to revert to, then doing similar to: sudo apt-get install librsvg-2-2=<exact-previous-version-here>    .... and then pinning it at that version
[20:31] <andreas_> Hi. I have just installed Ubuntu 14.04 64bit at my new dell. However I have several important problems with Ubuntu I didn't have with Windows.
[20:31] <genii> !pinning
[20:32] <andreas_> The one is that my Dell's fan is constantly spinning
[20:32] <andreas_> and I have no idea how to fix that
[20:32] <holstein> mukbhu: you'll want to go up to 14.04
[20:32] <andreas_> I also found that several people online had the same problem, but I couldn't find any good solution
[20:32] <andreas_> Can somebody help me?
[20:32] <holstein> mukbhu: even 13.04 is EOL now..
[20:32] <genii> mukbhu: Or, follow holstein's advice and go to next distribution available :)
[20:33] <holstein> andreas_: could be hardware related.. have you confirmed that its not failing/bad hardware? or a bios setting?
[20:33] <g0th> hi
[20:33] <mukbhu> yup i know... the thing is when i try to oupgrade ... the process crashes in between... so i am not able to upgrade
[20:33] <g0th> I don't have the panel/etc anymore in ubuntu
[20:33] <g0th> what package do I need to install for that
[20:33] <holstein> mukbhu: i suggest *not* upgrading, but a fresh install of 14.04
[20:33] <g0th> it is a normal ubuntu session/desktop
[20:33] <mukbhu> and i want to wait a bit before complete reinstallation
[20:33] <g0th> some package inconsistencies removed unity and ubuntu-desktop
[20:34] <holstein> mukbhu: might not be afforded any luxury of waiting.. and you should have backups regardless..
[20:34] <g0th> I reinstalled them afterwards but I guess something else (crucial) got removed?
[20:34] <mukbhu> @holstein what exactly would i need to do for reinstallation....? delete/destroy the partitions?
[20:34] <andreas_> Thanks a lot holstein :) Yes, as I said it works flawlessly when I am using windows
[20:35] <g0th> anyone?
[20:35] <g0th> compiz is running
[20:35] <g0th> I have some desktop (which I actually don't need)
[20:35] <g0th> but I have no panel
[20:35] <g0th> so I don't know how I can launch an xterm for example
[20:36] <g0th> the keyboard shortcut also doesn't work
[20:36] <histo> g0th: alt+f2
[20:36] <kostkon> g00fy, ctrl+alt+f1 to f6, f7 to come back
[20:36] <kostkon> oops
[20:36] <kostkon> g0th, ^^
[20:36] <holstein> mukbhu: i just put the live CD in and follow instructions, after testing the support
[20:36] <holstein> !install | mukbhu
[20:37] <g0th> histo: that doesn't work
[20:37] <g0th> kostkon: I am on ctrl alt f1
[20:37] <histo> g0th: then you can hit ctrl+alt+F1 through F6 to get to tty's you can hit ctrl+alt+F7 to get back to X
[20:37] <g0th> I am talking from a console not from x
[20:37] <g0th> yes
[20:37] <histo> g0th: Did you install the missing packages?
[20:37] <g0th> but on X I have the described problem
[20:38] <g0th> I installed unity and ubuntu-desktop
[20:38] <g0th> what else do I need?
[20:38] <g0th> for the unity panel/etc?
[20:38] <kostkon> g0th, did you reboot for example. try resetting unity/compiz
[20:38] <g0th> yes
[20:38] <g0th> I reboot
[20:38] <histo> g0th: ubuntu desktop will pull all the packages. Perhaps it's a config issue.
[20:38] <g0th> how do I reset unity?
[20:38] <mukbhu> @holstein @ubottu thanks
[20:38] <g0th> perhaps
[20:38] <g0th> how would I go about solving the config issue?
[20:39] <mukbhu> the only problem is backing up of data...
[20:39] <kostkon> g0th, http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[20:39] <g0th> I can't follow that link sorry
[20:39] <g0th> no browser, no copy paste
[20:39] <g0th> annoying
[20:39] <g0th> I could use a text browser but I still can't copy and paste
[20:40] <g0th> also text browsers are hard to read nowadays that everything is made for big screens/etc
[20:40] <histo> g0th: try sudo apt-get install dconf    then dconf reset -f /org/compiz
[20:40] <g0th> what does that do?
[20:40] <g0th> compiz is fine btw
[20:40] <g0th> compiz is running perfectly
[20:40] <g0th> I even have my hotkeys
[20:40] <g0th> just no window decorations
[20:41] <g0th> hmm maybe it is a compiz issue but I never touched the compiz package
[20:41] <histo> g0th: resets unity
[20:41] <g0th> and compiz is running + I can move windows with the alt key
[20:41] <g0th> how do I reset unity?
[20:41] <g0th> I think it is not even running
[20:41] <histo> g0th: move what windows?
[20:42] <kostkon> g0th, try the cmd that histo gave you
[20:42] <g0th> that's for compiz?
[20:42] <histo> g0th: http://askubuntu.com/questions/17610/how-do-i-reset-my-unity-configuration
[20:42] <g0th> I can't open links :(
[20:42] <kostkon> g0th, unity is a compiz plugin. after giving that command, give: setsid unity and then try going back to the desktop
[20:43] <g0th> sigh
[20:43] <g0th> will I lose all my settings?
[20:43] <kostkon> g0th, no
[20:43] <g0th> ah ok
[20:43] <kostkon> g0th, if you mean compiz settings, then probably yes
[20:44] <g0th> AAARG
[20:44] <g0th> I had like 100 settings
[20:44] <g0th> that's why I asked
[20:44] <g0th> anywa
[20:44] <g0th> nothing happened
[20:44] <histo> g0th: do you have proprietary video card?
[20:44] <kostkon> g0th, give: setsid unity
[20:44] <histo> modules/
[20:44] <Xano> Can someone tell me *why* a major OS update tries to overwrite third party configuration files and throws all kinds of errors when I want to keep the existing ones? What is the reason Ubuntu cares about Apache and PHP so much?
[20:45] <g0th> sigh, did I just erase my whole compiz setup for nothing?
[20:45] <g0th> anyway
[20:45] <g0th> yes I have nvidia
[20:45] <histo> Xano: it doesn't overwrite anything it asks if you want to keep your existing configs etc..
[20:46] <module000> Xano: it's just doing what tha package script tells it to. add your (for example) php additions or overrides in php.d and you won't have these problems. it's all in the man pages...
[20:46] <g0th> that gives me a black screen
[20:46] <g0th> I just want to know
[20:47] <g0th> how do I get the usual unity panels?
[20:47] <g0th> what package and what program?
[20:47] <cuddylier> Anyone know a command to check if my server is getting spammed with connections?
[20:47] <g0th> unity I assume?
[20:47] <module000> g0th: create a new user and snag their unity settings if you want the defaults
[20:47] <g0th> module000: I can just erase them
[20:47] <histo> g0th: yes
[20:47] <g0th> that would be the same
[20:48] <g0th> I don't want to erase them
[20:48] <g0th> I took a fair amount of time to create them
[20:48] <g0th> it's just a package issue
[20:48] <g0th> all I did was remove some packages
[20:48] <g0th> and later I installed them again
[20:48] <g0th> maybe missing some
[20:48] <histo> g0th: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html
[20:48] <g0th> I can't open links
[20:49] <kostkon> g0th, try again with sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop --reinstall
[20:49] <g0th> if I start unity it gives an error btw:
[20:49] <g0th> FBO is incomplete
[20:50] <histo> g0th: then how are you moving windows etc..?
[20:50] <g0th> I can create and open folders
[20:50] <module000> g0th: squash that message by disabling 'Framebuffer Objects' in your opengl plugin for compiz. or take your customizations, stash them, and then let the defaults generate, then replace your customizations again
[20:51] <g0th> module000: ... I can't start anything because I don't have my panel and alt + f2 is not working
[20:51] <Xano> histo, module000 I just wonder why an OS bothers with third party software, or worse, fails when I choose one of the options it offers.
[20:51] <g0th> I think it is an ubuntu-session issue
[20:51] <module000> g0th: use another TTY
[20:51] <g0th> somehow nothing is loaded
[20:51] <g0th> how does that help?
[20:51] <g0th> I can't start the compiz-config on the console
[20:51] <g0th> anyway
[20:51] <g0th> that's not the issue
[20:52] <g0th> the issue is that unity/the panel are not here somehow
[20:52] <module000> g0th: edit the config files directly, the GUI just keeps you from knowing what you are doing specifically.
[20:52] <g0th> but it is not even the issue most likely
[20:52] <histo> Xano: What OS and third party software are you speaking of?  What is failing?
[20:52] <module000> Xano: no idea. the single person responsible is whoever is listed as the "maintainer" on the package in question.
[20:52] <g0th> also how do I  edit config files directly?
[20:52] <g0th> that's pretty hard for compiz
[20:53] <g0th> especially without a usable web browser
[20:53] <histo> g0th: How did you install nvidia drivers?
[20:53] <g0th> with a package
[20:53] <g0th> the nvidia drivers seem fine, I never changed them
[20:53] <g0th> and x is working great
[20:53] <Xano> histo, module000 13.10 to 14.04 upgrade and when I opted to keep the PHP and Apache config files, it told me errors had occurred and that the upgrade may have resulted in an unstable system. Being a software developer myself I find this strange and very disconcerting.
[20:53] <michael> michael
[20:53] <michael> hi
[20:54] <Guest95079> what is going
[20:54] <Guest95079> on_
[20:54] <histo> Xano: can you pastebin the particular errors?
[20:54] <g0th> ok setsid xterm works
[20:54] <g0th> so I have an xterm
[20:54] <g0th> I did unity --replace
[20:54] <g0th> which was executed
[20:54] <Guest95079> is Anyone a Bash programmer?
[20:54] <g0th> but still no panel
[20:55] <g0th> what package is responsible for unity's panel?
[20:55] <histo> g0th: I though unity --replace was deprecated?
[20:55] <g0th> so what do I do?
[20:55] <kostkon> g0th, unity --replace is for older versions of ubuntu
[20:55] <histo> g0th: Follow one of the many links that has been posted.
[20:55] <g0th> I have to start irssi again on x
[20:55] <Xano> histo, Unfortunately I'm already past that. I figured any error related to those config files could never be too bad seeing as I can easily reinstall both packages.
[20:55] <g0th> sec
[20:55] <module000> Xano: ooh, a distro upgrade. i thought you were just doing a generic update. the problem there is sometimes layout changes of common config files in releases. that's an irritating reality that doesn't exist in some other distros
[20:56] <nightray> could anyone help me with installing TeamSpeak 3? I got an error and I don't know what to do
[20:56] <module000> Guest95079: just ask your question to the channel
[20:56] <histo> Xano: ahh yeah, kind of hard for us to troubleshoot the errors. It also bothers me as upgrading is supported.  You can hunt around in your logs for upgrade manager logs.
[20:56] <g0th> I hate you guys
[20:56] <kostkon> g0th, what version of ubuntu are you on
[20:56] <g0th> all my compiz settings are gone
[20:56] <g0th> because of that command I entered
[20:57] <g0th> latest version
[20:57] <kostkon> g0th, is it working at least
[20:57] <g0th> no
[20:57] <g0th> nothing changed
[20:57] <g0th> as I thought
[20:57] <g0th> I expected that nothing changed
[20:57] <g0th> and I very much feared
[20:57] <g0th> that it would mess up my settings
[20:57] <g0th> so I asked specifically
[20:57] <g0th> you told me no
[20:57] <Guest95079> I Need to know how to apply Posix standarts to bash programming
[20:57] <g0th> I executed
[20:58] <g0th> and now all settings are gone :(
[20:58] <g0th> anyway
[20:58] <g0th> still no panel
[20:58] <unopaste> g0th you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[20:58] <Xano> module000, Sorry to have been clear earlier. Coming from other software projects I assumed the phrase "major version upgrade" meant the same thing. In my case what went wrong was that Ubuntu wanted to replace the existing files completely instead of analyzing the contents and only replacing specific directives. This feels like it's the OS doing the upgrade in a generic way rather than the packages themselves upgrading their own files proper
[20:58] <Xano> ly.
[20:58] <module000> Guest95079: that would involve knowing the Posix standards already
[20:58] <nightray> Could anyone assist me?
[20:58] <Xano> histo, ^^
[20:58] <guntbert> !goth take it easy on <enter> , don't scroll the channel so fast
[20:58] <Xano> module000, histo *sorry to have been *unclear*
[20:58] <module000> Xano: i know what you mean. I'm used to having any non-default configs changed to "myfile.rpmsave" during those types of upgrades, ubuntu/debian won't ask though..and will just nuke them
[20:59] <guntbert> goth take it easy on <enter> , don't scroll the channel so fast
[20:59] <Guest95079> can anyone assist me how to do so
[20:59] <g0th> well
[20:59] <g0th> I'm even more screwed now than I was before
[20:59] <g0th> thanks a lot
[20:59] <g0th> I even specifically asked about that beforehand
[20:59] <Guest95079> I am reading couple of posic documented guids
[20:59] <histo> Xano: It's kind of hard to support everyone's customizations to configs
[20:59] <Xano> module000, I am a fairly technical user so I understand the contents of the config files and how a diff view works, but this isn't really a user-friendly approach for non-techies, which worries me a bit.
[21:00] <guntbert> g0th: don't press <enter> so often, no one can read what you are saying
[21:00] <Xano> histo, Well, was this PHP upgrading itself as part of 14.04, or was this Ubuntu doing it?
[21:00] <g0th> how do I get my unity panel?
[21:00] <histo> Xano: what do you mean?
[21:00] <g0th> how do I get window decorations/etc?
[21:00] <g0th> what package do I need for that?
[21:00] <Xano> histo, Is the upgrade path part of Ubuntu, or do the packages themselves provide upgrade paths for 14.04?
[21:00] <histo> Xano: if a new version of php gets released with a new distro release then it's upgraded when you switch from an older version of the distro.
[21:01] <g0th> can someone give the link for the unity reset?
[21:01] <Xano> histo, Because I really wonder why the upgrade wanted to do a file replace rather than analyze the config directives and attempt to merge them
[21:01] <histo> Xano: maintainers submit packages for the next release of ubuntu. Those packages are then frozen at a certain point for testing prior to a major release.
[21:02] <histo> Xano: because the default configuration file may have changed dramatically between versions. Some stuff may have been deprecated etc...
[21:02] <g0th> anyone?
[21:02] <Xano> histo, Nah, the upgrade just wanted to change my error log paths and memory limits to the defaults. This was really simple stuff.
[21:02] <g0th> you got me into this mess
[21:02] <g0th> at least help me out of it
[21:03] <Xano> histo, I can understand if there were any serious merge conflicts
[21:03] <g0th> what part of the unity/compiz desktop is responsible for window decorations + panels?
[21:03] <guntbert> !patience | g0th
[21:03]  * nightray feels so ignored
[21:03] <masoudborbor> holstein, lol do u remember my problem with unity? I just made a temp solution for that: I added "unity --replace" to the startup!
[21:03]  * Xano throws nightray a cookie
[21:04]  * Glorfindel laughs his head off
[21:04] <histo> Xano: right... A dev or maintainer would have to right config migration scripts for every possible config etc.... to do it 'your way'
[21:04] <ikonia> nightray: you'll get help if you ask a question/provide info
[21:04] <nightray> Xano, thanks!
[21:04] <histo> Xano: and every config option
[21:04] <ikonia> nightray: rather than self pity /me commands
[21:04]  * masoudborbor help
[21:04] <nightray> ikonia, cuz it's not like I already did that upon entering this channel
[21:04] <masoudborbor> sorry
[21:04] <g0th> well,  I don't think patience will get me anywhere
[21:04] <masoudborbor> that was wrong typing
[21:04] <ikonia> nightray: you didn't
[21:04] <masoudborbor> bye all
[21:04] <g0th> in fact I seem to know the most about the issue
[21:05] <charlesburton> Didn't see your question nightray
[21:05] <g0th> so probably I will just get more screwed here
[21:05] <g0th> sigh
[21:05] <histo> g0th: your use of the enter key is quite annoying hold on.
 could anyone help me with installing TeamSpeak 3? I got an error and I don't know what to do
[21:05] <Pici> nightray: provide us with an actual error message and some details about your Ubuntu setup and we can help :_
[21:05] <g0th> histo: you erasing all my settings is more annoying believe me
[21:05] <charlesburton> What's the error?
[21:05] <ikonia> nightray: you've not told us the error
[21:05] <ikonia> nightray: we don't know if we can help until we see the error
[21:05] <nightray> charlesburton, oh.. hi there!
[21:05] <histo> g0th: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html
[21:05] <g0th> thanks
[21:05] <charlesburton> Hola
[21:05] <Xano> histo, I honestly come from a software project where we do that, yes. However, I know there were no real merge conflicts here (1LOC change with context intact), so I am curious as to how these two packages (PHP, Apache) ended up having the exact same problem.
[21:06] <Slart> nightray: dont make people interrogate you .. give detailed information.. "an error" isn't really any information.. it's just an invitiation to ask what the error was..
[21:07] <histo> Xano: I doubt that was the source of the errors for your upgrade. I assume something else was going on.
[21:08] <nightray> ikonia, charlesburton, Slart , Pici, everyone else, I went to the TS website, downloaded their script for ubuntu amd64, i run the script and I got this: "There was a problem opening the file “/home/nightray/Downloads…nt-linux_amd64-3.0.14.run”." and this "The file you opened has some invalid characters. If you continue editing this file you could corrupt this document.
[21:08] <nightray> You can also choose another character encoding and try again."
[21:08] <g0th> everything crashed
[21:08] <Slart> nightray: editing? how do you run that file?
[21:08] <g0th> and reseting compiz didn't help
[21:08] <nightray> and since I know next to nothing about linux I have no idea how to handle it
[21:08] <g0th> I now installed gnome-desktop
[21:09] <histo> Xano: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingUpdateManager  log files there may help.
[21:09] <g0th> which is working
[21:09] <g0th> but I don't want it
[21:09] <g0th> how do I get my ubuntu-session stuff back?
[21:09] <g0th> with unity/etc
[21:09] <Raven67854> nightray, You have to mark it as an executable and then run it
[21:09] <Raven67854> otherwise it will open it in gedit
[21:09] <nightray> Slart, right click > properties > permissions > checkbox: allow execute as program and double click
[21:10] <ikonia> nightray: I have no idea where you got that file from
[21:10] <ikonia> nightray: however it didn't come from the team speak website
[21:10] <histo> g0th: there is an issue with your users configuration files for unity. Remove them and start unity.
[21:10] <ikonia> nightray: that is not the file name of any of the downloads on the teamspeak website
[21:10] <kateatron> qq: any idea how /proc/modules could be empty/blank?  i recently upgraded to 14.04: "Linux 3.0.35 #2 SMP PREEMPT Tue May 27 15:36:22 CEST 2014 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux"
[21:10] <Slart> nightray: try running it from a terminal instead.. ie open a gnome terminal.. cd to the folder with the file and run it using    ./nt-linx_amd64blablabla.run
[21:10] <nightray> ikonia, http://www.teamspeak.com/?page=downloads
[21:11] <ikonia> nightray: yup, just downloaded them, nothing with that name
[21:11] <g0th> ok unity tweak tool worked
[21:11] <g0th> I have mz ynitz desktop back
[21:11] <g0th> but zeee
[21:11] <g0th> all settings gone
[21:11] <g0th> anzwaz, I just have to do them all again
[21:11] <g0th> thanks for the help
[21:12] <r3v3rb> hi all, how can I setup proftpd or vsftpd to allow me to upload/download files into /var/www and get the right permissions on those files to be in the correct group so that www-data user can access and alter as necessary
[21:12] <Slart> ikonia: the full file is called TeamSpeak3-Client-linux_amd64-3.0.14.run  I think nightray just missed copy/pasting the first part of the name
[21:12] <ikonia> Slart: I'd like him to confirm what things are called,
[21:12] <ikonia> Slart: as giving the correct details are as important as typing the correct commands
[21:13] <nightray> Slart, the error message shortened it
[21:13] <Slart> ikonia: indeed
[21:14] <g0th> this is a catastrophy, will take me days to recover :(
[21:14] <aarobc> Hey, so I had an alias in my .bashrc that I removed, then I did "source ~/.bashrc" but it's still acting like the alias is there :-p
[21:15] <aarobc> What do?
[21:15] <ikonia> aarobc: unset the alias
[21:15] <Slart> nightray: the install file seems to work when I try running it from a terminal.. I think it's the double clicking that is not doing what you want.. try the terminal way I described above and see if that solves the problem
[21:15] <ikonia> aarobc: unless your new .bashrc overwrites it
[21:16] <Pici> aarobc: the command is 'unalias'
[21:16] <aarobc> ikonia: it does not because I want the default behavior now.
[21:16] <aarobc> much thanks!
[21:16] <nightray> Slart, It worked from the terminal, but it just unzipped the file. What now?
[21:16] <nightray> or is that it?
[21:16] <Raven67854> nightray, run teamspeak you can put the folder anywhere
[21:16] <aarobc> Pici: worked perfectly, much thanks
[21:17] <Slart> that would be it.. try running the ts3client_linux_amd64 file in the new folder
[21:17] <Slart> nightray: see above
[21:18] <histo> g0th: what days of work are you missing?
[21:18] <michael__> looking for couple programmers
[21:18] <michael__> looking for couple programmers?
[21:18] <ikonia> Guest44409: not in this channel
[21:18] <Guest44409> shit
[21:18] <ikonia> Guest44409: no need for bad langauge, please don't use it
[21:19] <g0th> histo: basically all suggestions from #ubuntu didn't help anything at all
[21:19] <g0th> in the end I figured it out on my own
[21:19] <Guest44409> oh sorry
[21:19] <nightray> typing teamspeak in the terminal does nothing  and righit click > run ts3client_linux_amd64 file does nothing as well
[21:19] <g0th> on by following the advice here I messed up all my settings
[21:19] <g0th> even though I specifically asked about it beforehand
[21:19] <histo> g0th: What was the magic solution?
[21:19] <ikonia> g0th: I suggest you stop using this channel
[21:19] <Slart> nightray: sorry.. my bad.. try running the   .sh file
[21:19] <kartK1> Guest44409: couple programmers huh.. a new trend for prospective employers?
[21:19] <g0th> unity-tweak-tool --reset
[21:19] <Slart> nightray: it downloades some new stuff and then runs the client
[21:20] <g0th> ikonia: this time, often it is useful, I'm just a bit angry this time as you can tell
[21:20] <Slart> nightray: from a terminal that would be     sh ts3client_runscript.sh
[21:20] <ikonia> g0th: then stop it
[21:20] <histo> lol
[21:20] <ikonia> g0th: people give you help as best they can,
[21:20] <g0th> in general irc chat was better like 20 years ago
[21:20] <ikonia> g0th: it's people trying to help and offering there time for free, you don't have to do what they tell you
[21:20] <g0th> kk
[21:20] <kostkon> nightray, right click on it, select  properties, then click on Permissions then enable the Allow executing file as program and press Close. Then try double clicking on it
[21:20] <histo> g0th: good luck to you in your journey. Especially since that's the first thing that was suggested to you.
[21:20] <g0th> I am thankful for the good intentions
[21:21] <nightray> kostkon, it opens in gedit
[21:21] <FLeiXiuS> Now that resolv conf handles everything...how can i see what my nameservers are?
[21:21] <Guest44409> does any one how i could add ubuntweak application in to system setting
[21:21] <Guest44409> does any one know how i could add ubuntu weak application in to system setting pannel
[21:23] <nightray> Slart, ok it works. Do I have to always run it this way?
[21:23] <Ahmuck> GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Error.Failed: An authentication agent already exists for the given subject
[21:23] <Ahmuck> can someone help me resolve this error?
[21:24] <Slart> nightray: not sure if it installs anything when you run it the first time.. it's been a long time since I used teamspeak myself
[21:24] <Slart> FLeiXiuS: it doesn't update /etc/resolv.conf any more? have a look
[21:25] <nightray> Well, thank you Slart anyway!
[21:25] <FLeiXiuS> Slart, It updates with 127.0.1.1
[21:25] <FLeiXiuS> I believe thats dnsmasq jacking it up
[21:25] <ecod3> hello guys!!! I have a problem with my network connection window display on ubuntu 14.04. At the moment I have this display http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-lLhGMnifAGw%2FUa8-xecManI%2FAAAAAAAACiE%2Fm4MwPXvlRQQ%2Fs1600%2Frokerias-agregar-eth.png&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rokerias.com%2F2013%2F06%2Fmultiples-perfiles-de-red-en-ubuntu-1304.html&h=480&w=669&tbnid=OdFL7jGI7VCv5M%3A&zoom=1&d
[21:25] <ecod3> ocid=AvNczmTPNdoOKM&ei=gWubU87QDMKtPJnGgJgP&tbm=isch&ved=0CBEQMygJMAk4ZA&iact=rc&uact=3&dur=1175&page=7&start=106&ndsp=21 but I would like to have back this kind of display http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Ftutorialeslinux.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F01%2FConexiones_red_Ubuntu.png&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Ftutorialeslinux.com%2F&h=332&w=516&tbnid=BYS3yhQc40REFM%3A&zoom=1&docid=QLEViqnFG8rmNM&ei=3WqbU-S9C
[21:25] <ecod3> smDOMuKgagO&tbm=isch&ved=0CCAQMygBMAE&iact=rc&uact=3&dur=5107&page=1&start=0&ndsp=16 . Can anyone help me please...
[21:25] <FLeiXiuS> lol
[21:26] <FLeiXiuS> ecod3, great post.
[21:26] <Slart> nightray: you're welcome
[21:26] <g0th> hmm, where do I setup the default terminal program?
[21:27] <nightray> Slart, one more question on that subject. Can I create an executable file that will run that file without using terminal?
[21:27] <ecod3> sorry :D the link its to long
[21:27] <kostkon> ecod3, try again. upload the image on an imagebin site, e.g. imagebin.org?
[21:27] <g0th> and how do I deactivate "super" activating the search field?
[21:27] <Slart> nightray: you mean like a shortcut that starts teamspeak for you?
[21:27] <ecod3> ok
[21:27] <nightray> Slart, something like that
[21:28] <nightray> right now I have to go to that folder, run the file and keep the console open
[21:28] <g0th> anyway for the xterm I found an alternative solution
[21:29] <Slart> nightray: I actually have one on my desktop.. can't remember what I did to create it though.. if you right click on your desktop do you get a "create shortcut" or "create launcher" option?
[21:29] <rsw-2014> hey, my machine's got a broken dvd drive and no usb boot feature.  i remember there being some peculiar installer that works from windows, but i can't remember the name of it or what distributions support it.  can someone remind me?
[21:30] <SuperFireAl> Can you use XFS filesystem with ubuntu ?
[21:30] <kateatron> if 'cat /proc/modules' is empty, is that a bad thing?  i am trying to "modprobe tun" and getting back 'FATAL: Module tun not found'
[21:31] <nightray> Slart, I don't have it
[21:31] <dine909> raw-2014, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=install+ubuntu+from+windows
[21:32] <g0th> ok found it -> it's under ccsm -> desktop -> ubuntu unity plugin -> launcher -> "key to show dash, ..."
[21:32] <rsw-2014> hey yea thanks
[21:32] <Slart> nightray: have a look at this http://askubuntu.com/questions/64222/how-can-i-create-launchers-on-my-desktop   you might have to create a regular text file first and place the text from the second answer there
[21:33] <Slart> nightray: there used to be a quicker way to do this but for some reason it's been removed from the right click context menu
[21:34] <nightray> Slart, I will try this. Right now I crated link to the file but that opens it in gedit for whatever reason
[21:34] <ecod3> so let's start again. On my ubuntu 14.04 I have this display http://imagebin.org/313613 and I want to have this one http://imagebin.org/313614. Can anyone help me please
[21:35] <Slart> nightray: try right clicking on the file and selecting properties.. in there you can chose what the default double clicking action should be
[21:35] <nightray> Slart, and what should it be to run it as a program?
[21:36] <Lynx___> Is it something about desktop entry?
[21:36] <r3v3rb> arghhh, any time I install an ftp-server on connecting I get 530 Login Incorrect… any ideas
[21:36] <samuelkadolph> I frequently get the lovely "task YYY blocked for more than 120 seconds." on 14.04. Tried replacing the SSD and memory but still getting them. Anyone got any advice? (syslog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7640876/)
[21:36] <Slart> nightray: do you have a    "run software" option in the list of applications?
[21:37] <nightray> Slart, I do have, but when I run it the cursor just spins and spins and stops and nothing happens
[21:39] <Slart> nightray: hmm.. odd
[21:40] <DrGrov> Hello
[21:41] <DrGrov> Running 13.10 64-bit. Having some serious screen related problems after switching to a 46" Grundig Full HD LED TV. It seems so that I am completely unable to see fonts correctly together with color.
[21:41] <DrGrov> Any thoughts on if it is a Ubuntu related anti-aliasing thing or just TV settings that need to be tweaked?
[21:41] <ecod3> anyone can help me with the network window display???
[21:42] <Slart> nightray: if you rightclick on the    ts3client_runscript.sh   file and set it to open with "Run software" as default.. can you then double click on the file and it will start teamspeak?
[21:42] <rsw-2014> Chrome is blocking my access to the ubuntu wiki.  says "Something is currently interfering with your secure connection to wiki.ubuntu.com".  I take it the wubi installer is not longer available?
[21:42] <Ben64> DrGrov: you probably need to match the resolution to the tv's native resolution, also... you should upgrade to 14.04 within a month or you'll lose support and updates
[21:42] <Slart> DrGrov: could it be that the tv isn't rgba but has the colors in some other order?
[21:43] <DrGrov> Ben64: Ah yes, so I am running it "too high" so to speak.
[21:43] <Ben64> rsw-2014: wubi hasn't been supported for quite a while now
[21:43] <marvtherobot> rsw-2014, Wubi is ded
[21:43] <DrGrov> Slart: I am not sure, please clarify how you mean.
[21:43] <marvtherobot> *dead
[21:43] <nightray> Slart, nope. The cursor spins for a while and thats about ti
[21:43] <nightray> it*
[21:43] <rsw-2014> well that leaves me high and dry until i can replace my dvd drive
[21:43] <Beldar> rsw-2014, in 12.04 but virtually no real support, not really advised by anyone unless that is the only choice
[21:44] <Ben64> DrGrov: Slart is referring to subpixel smoothing, where if it knows the order of the individual colors of the pixels, it can adjust the nearby pixels to make a smoother looking font
[21:44] <marvtherobot> rsw-2014, can you not use a USB stick?
[21:44] <DrGrov> Ben64: But it is supposed to manage 1080p resolution.
[21:44] <nightray> Slart, running it from command line works fine but from the file it does nothing
[21:44] <Slart> DrGrov: to make on screen fonts smoother you can use the fact that the colored pixels are in a certain position http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subpixel_rendering
[21:44] <Slart> DrGrov: meh.. what he said =)
[21:45] <rsw-2014> its an emachine from 2005, marvtherobot , the bios doesnt have usb booting feature afaict
[21:45] <ecod3> so let's start again. On my ubuntu 14.04 I have this display http://imagebin.org/313613 and I want to have this one http://imagebin.org/313614. Can anyone help me please
[21:45] <Slart> nightray: weird.. so nothing at all happens when you double click the sh-file? no errors or anything?
[21:46] <marvtherobot> rsw-2014, fair enough... never good having to wait to get going. I feel your pain
[21:46] <nightray> Slart, no errors
[21:46] <r3v3rb> so I can login to ftp as ‘me’ but my ‘ftpusr’ gets a 530 Incorrect Login when trying to access /var/www where they are a member of the group folder
[21:47] <nightray> Slart, and before you ask, yes I checked the box to run it as a program
[21:47] <rsw-2014> well im gonna try 12.04 for now since thats all thats available
[21:47] <rsw-2014> thanks for the info yall
[21:47] <DrGrov> Slart: I am just watching 24 here and it is absolutely stunning quality but fonts etc. is definitely completely way out of line.
[21:47] <DrGrov> Slart: Could it be custom DPI or something like that?
[21:48] <kostkon> rsw-2014, 14.04 is lighter, believe it or not
[21:48] <Slart> DrGrov: I think that would only make the fonts a different size.. not weird
[21:48] <Ben64> DrGrov: is it just fonts or all small details
[21:48] <rsw-2014> can't wait to get back in the loop kostkon , its been a couple years since ive been able to use any linux distro.  i used to prefer arch but ive got no idea what the climate is like these days
[21:49] <Slart> nightray: then I don't really know what to try... what version of ubuntu are you running? regular unity-ubuntu?
[21:49] <cuddylier> What's the command to find connections to my server box?
[21:49] <nightray> fresh installation of 14.04lts
[21:49] <gustav___> Hi. I can't find linux-source-3.7.0 on my system. Where is it? :)
[21:49] <DrGrov> I can take a screenshot to show how bad it looks like
[21:50] <Ben64> DrGrov: ok
[21:50] <Slart> nightray: seems very reasonable.. same version I have here.. although I'm running gnome 3
[21:51] <gustav___> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7641147/
[21:52] <gustav___> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7641151/
[21:52] <Slart> !12.10
[21:53] <marvtherobot> gustav___, what do you see when you apt-cache search linux-source ?
[21:53] <histo> cuddylier: netstat will show open ports if that's what you mean
[21:53] <gustav___> marvtherobot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7641159/
[21:53] <cuddylier> histo: I want to see if my server is getting flooded with connections
[21:53] <Slart> gustav___: 12.10 stopped being supported in may this year.. your repos might be moved to archives
[21:53] <cuddylier> As my box CPU shoots up randomly then dies down a while later.
[21:54] <DrGrov> Ben64: Here it is. http://imgur.com/HqrJ3tP
[21:54] <gustav___> Slart: LOL. Why is there no information?
[21:54] <k1l_> gustav___: there is no 3.7 kernel on ubuntu
[21:54] <marvtherobot> so 3.5 is the latest you've got in your respositories. You'll need to upgrade or get >=3.7 from elsewhere and install it
[21:54] <Ben64> DrGrov: uh... that looks perfect
[21:54] <Beldar> gustav___, You are eol the ubuntu repos for your release are not available from the same source
[21:54] <DrGrov> Ben64: What?
[21:54] <Ben64> gustav___: if you're on 12.10 you really need to upgrade
[21:54] <Slart> gustav___: good point.. don't know why there isn't
[21:55] <DrGrov> Ben64: That is not perfect by any means
[21:55] <gustav___> Beldar: Wel, 12.10 is the only dist that runs on this PC.
[21:55] <Ben64> DrGrov: it in fact is perfect
[21:55] <Beldar> gustav___, Well that does not change the facts.
[21:55] <nightray> Slart, the shortcut I created doesn't work either. http://i.imgur.com/QPXQmL5.jpg
[21:55] <DrGrov> Ben64: I am having immense problems with that
[21:55] <gustav___> Beldar: I just stated a fact.
[21:55] <nightray> did I wrote that script correctly?
[21:55] <Slart> gustav___: you can try using the archive repository.. that's where old versions are kept... although updating is recommended.. bug fixes are a good thing
[21:55] <Beldar> gustav___, And no support here.
[21:55] <DrGrov> Ben64: I am barely even able to see what I am writing to you
[21:55] <Ben64> gustav___: it is impossible that 12.10 is the only one that works for you
[21:56] <Ben64> DrGrov: well you took a screenshot, so its perfect. maybe take a picture of the screen?
[21:56] <gustav___> Ben64: How?
[21:56] <nightray> Terminal=true is just to see if it runs anything it doesn't
[21:56] <Slart> DrGrov: if the error is in the rendering it won't show up on a screenshot
[21:56] <histo> cuddylier: give netstat -n -A inet   also look at lsof -i
[21:56] <Ben64> gustav___: why do you think 12.10 is the only one
[21:56] <gustav___> Ben64: Tests.
[21:56] <Slart> DrGrov: it's like trying to capture what your broken phone screen looks like on a screenshot
[21:56] <Ben64> gustav___: ok, well come back with a supported release and we can help you
[21:57] <Slart> DrGrov: did you try messing with the subpixel rendering settings?
[21:57] <cuddylier> histo: In netstat -n -A inet I see a lot of local IPs but only a few remote. I assume I would see a lot of remote during an attack?
[21:57] <gustav___> Ben64: Make it supported.
[21:57] <histo> cuddylier: here's a decent page http://linuxers.org/howto/how-find-out-active-connections-or-which-ports-are-openlistening-linux
[21:57] <Ben64> gustav___: 14.04 or 12.04, pick one and install it
[21:57] <DrGrov> Slart: No, unfortunately not.
[21:57] <Beldar> gustav___, Sorry man the magic wand is at the cleaners. ;)
[21:57] <marvtherobot> gustav___, there isn't much we can do; if something is stopping you upgrade, you really need to sort that
[21:58] <gustav___> marvtherobot: Right, nVidia?
[21:58] <DrGrov> Slart: Not even sure where to start to be honest
[21:58] <marvtherobot> gustav___, what about nvidia?
[21:58] <k1l_> !details | gustav___
[21:58] <gustav___> marvtherobot: No OS driver for Optimus.
[21:59] <Slart> DrGrov: hang on... let me see if I can find out where it's located in regular ubuntu
[21:59] <k1l_> gustav___: 12.10 is end of support. so if you want to stay there it is on your own support. if you have issues with 14.04 give exact errors
[21:59] <gustav___> k1l_: I don't think I even get ethernet in it.
[21:59] <marvtherobot> gustav___, I don't have optimus so can't say much but I don't see why 12.10 works but 13.04-> 14.04 doesn't
[21:59] <gustav___> So it's hard to give you the errors.
[21:59] <Slart> DrGrov: what version of ubuntu are you running? 14.04?
[21:59] <gustav___> marvtherobot: Me neither. But you broke it.
[22:00] <k1l_> gustav___: put them in a text file and upload them from another system or other hardware
[22:00] <DrGrov> Slart: 13.10 and running XFCE, Xubuntu that is
[22:00] <gustav___> k1l_: 12.10 works, so just keep sending those packages.
[22:00] <k1l_> gustav___: and optimus gets better support with new kernels in 14.04 etc. so that is not the cause
[22:01] <wabi> hooooooooooooooly fucking shit.. 1689... people in here... are colours in here allowed too ? ... i got a pretty awsome "tits" script :)
[22:01] <Ben64> DrGrov: can you take a picture of the screen? would help to determine if its a font problem or a res problem
[22:01] <k1l_> gustav___: it is not mine or your decision. its end of life. get used to it.
[22:01] <marvtherobot> gustav___, Pretty sure I didn't break anything. You really need to try an upgrade and, as suggested, post any errors for help
[22:01] <DrGrov> Ben64: Ok, will do.
[22:01] <k1l_> wabi: please make sure you read the channel guidelines. thanks
[22:01] <gustav___> marvtherobot: I did.
[22:01] <Slart> DrGrov: do you have font settings or appearance settings in xfce?
[22:01] <fivecentmike> Hello, anyone know what to do about a dual-booted computer taking hours to load to the grub screen?
[22:01] <k1l_> gustav___: but enough of that wishes. please come back with exact errors and we can work on that.
[22:01] <ecod3> hello guys!!!! Any one know how to get my old network window display on ubuntu 14.04?
[22:02] <gustav___> k1l_: I posted exact errors.
[22:02] <Beldar> fivecentmike, More details
[22:02] <wabi> k1l_,  thats why i was asking.. ;)
[22:02] <k1l_> !guidelines > wabi
[22:02] <DrGrov> Ben64: There you go, http://imgur.com/NCJS6JT
[22:02] <DrGrov> Slart: Yes, I have font settings
[22:02] <fivecentmike> Beldar: I made a forum post here with more details. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2229548
[22:02] <Ben64> DrGrov: i mean a picture in real life, not a screenshot
[22:03] <wabi> i am new here.. k1l_ .. thanks pointing me to your advice
[22:03] <DrGrov> Ben64: Sorry, no can do about that at the moment
[22:03] <Slart> DrGrov: anything in there about font rendering detail?  like on this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts ?
[22:03] <domMarley> Hey everybody, i m using Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on EC2, with the last upgrade, ubuntu stopped to work connections on https websites
[22:03] <Ben64> DrGrov: how does your screenshot look to you? bad still?
[22:03] <nrdb> I have set my 12.04 to only upgrade to the next lts version... but it thinks there is no update to be done... any one know why?
[22:03] <Slart> DrGrov: you're looking for those settings on the bottom of this window  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=smoothing_settings.png
[22:04] <Ben64> nrdb: it won't show 14.04 until 14.04.1 drops, next month
[22:04] <marvtherobot> nrdb, I think 14.04 will only show when 14.04.1 is out
[22:04] <Chaser> !ltsupgrade | nrdb
[22:04] <nrdb> oh ok... I will wait then
[22:04] <Slart> DrGrov: or you could just turn subpixel rendering off for the moment.. see if that clears things up a bit
[22:04] <wabi> oh.. wow.. .. wow.. sorry... thank you ubottu .. and 1k something.. i am going to read the guidelines
[22:04] <domMarley> Hey everybody, i m using Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on EC2, with the last upgrade, ubuntu stopped to work connections on https websites, does anyone know how to fix that?
[22:04] <kartK1> ubottu: i didnt know that. #newthinglearnt
[22:05] <marvtherobot> DrGrov, just curious, is it all text everywhere on the screen or are some fonts better than others?
[22:05] <kartK1> #cleverbot
[22:05] <DrGrov> marvtherobot: It seems like they are all blurry all the way around, nothing particularly better anywhere
[22:06] <Ben64> DrGrov: so when you look at the image you linked me to, it looks bad for you?
[22:06] <marvtherobot> DrGrov, I don't support you have any other devices to connect to that screen to see if it's the same for them?
[22:06] <DrGrov> Slart: There is no smoothing option in XFCE
[22:06] <Beldar> fivecentmike, So not enough details there either, when you say reaching the grub menu, where are you coming from, off, or a reboot and from where.
[22:06] <DrGrov> Ben64: Yes, it does look horrible to be honest.
[22:07] <Ben64> DrGrov: how is your computer connected to the screen? vga? hdmi? dvi? composite??
[22:07] <DrGrov> Ben64: HDMI
[22:07] <fivecentmike> Beldar, Off, reboot, sleep, all 3 take me hours to reach a sceen that lists my OSs and I select one to boot.
[22:07] <marvtherobot> *Suppose
[22:08] <Ben64> DrGrov: then i guess either the tv is weird or you're outputting a resolution it can't handle
[22:08] <DrGrov> Strange, I have selected custom DPI set at 96 there in the Appearance settings in XFCE
[22:08] <Beldar> fivecentmike, That is a serious anomaly especially when it worked before, if it were me I would be reloading the images/clones I made when working.
[22:09] <marvtherobot> DrGrov, as Ben64 says... have you tried alternate resolutions or display settings. If it's faulty at every resolution then your TV really don't like something
[22:09] <Beldar> fivecentmike, I would also run a memory test
[22:10] <fivecentmike> Beldar, OK thanks. Is it likely that its just a software issue or is it possible I have a hardware problem?
[22:10] <mkdmz> Is there someone who actually knows how to associate icons with new mimetypes?  The online documentation is not helping.  I'm really bummed out, I've been on this for a couple days now and have gotten nowhere.
[22:10] <Beldar> fivecentmike, Are you rebooting from sleep in windows or ubuntu?
[22:11] <Beldar> hitting the start button
[22:11] <OerHeks> mkdmz, still trying on a live iso?
[22:11] <mkdmz> Yes, but this should not be an issue.
[22:11] <wabi> woooooooow.. thank you  ubottu ..for your query.. to warn me of beeing kicked of here.. if i might not "obey" some of these (very very very long and specific) guidelines.. may i still show some tits here ? *hahahahaha*
[22:11] <fivecentmike> Beldar, rebooting form both takes me hours.
[22:11] <OerHeks> mkdmz, sure? you need to logout/login again, but you know that.
[22:12] <domMarley> Hey everybody, i m using Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on EC2, with the last upgrade, ubuntu stopped to work connections on https websites, does anyone know how to fix that?
[22:12] <Beldar> fivecentmike, Hard to say what it is, this is on the far scale of who knows from any so far info. ;)
[22:12] <mkdmz> OerHeks: Yeah, I've followed those instructions like a Nazi.  Don't work!
[22:12] <OerHeks> mkdmz, try it on an installed system and you will see it works.
[22:13] <histo> domMarley: what is your native language?
[22:13] <domMarley> Portuguese
[22:13] <histo> !pt | domMarley
[22:14] <fivecentmike> Beldar, OK, thanks for the help. I've only had the computer for a couple of weeks so I don't think I have any backup images or clones. I was planning on just reinstalling Ubuntu from a USB.
[22:14] <domMarley> Ok, but i dont think it is a locale problem
[22:15] <domMarley> Maybe i have to ask in another way
[22:15] <DrGrov> Ah much much better
[22:15] <marvtherobot> DrGrov, have you sorted it?
[22:15] <domMarley> but i think ubuntu has a problem on packages openssl and libssl1.0.0
[22:15] <Beldar> fivecentmike, A uefi computer has a seperate boot for windows and ubuntu I believe, I would want to know how the native OS boots all on it's own as a variable, not sure how to get to theses separate boots however.
[22:15] <DrGrov> The TV recognized 1360x768 but I really want to have 1920x1080
[22:16] <nightray> Slart, I fix that shortcut. I pinned it to unity luncher, I added it to dash. Everything works. Thank you!
[22:16] <funkster> having an issue, i have .xsession script that load matchbox window manager and then chromium-browser --kiosk --fullscreen http://www.google.com , if i run it when booted into standard WM, it will fullscreen (f11) automatically, then i run that script in matchbox via .xsession, it only maximizes the window. I need it to truely fullscreen with no address bar/tabs - anyone have an idea?
[22:16] <Slart> nightray: oh.. great job! happy it worked out for you
[22:16] <pavlos> domMarley, seems to be an issue with EC2 and that image.
[22:16] <marvtherobot> DrGrov, are you sure it supports 1080p and not just 1080i?
[22:17] <fivecentmike> Beldar, If I boot into Windows is there some way I can bypass grub and get back to jumping straight to the Windows Boot Manager?
[22:17] <DrGrov> marvtherobot: Yes, I am 100% sure it supports 1080p
[22:17] <domMarley> pavlos: when i run links https://somehttpspage the page doest load
[22:17] <DrGrov> I have had this same issue earlier but on my LG 42" but have no rememberence of the solution to the issue
[22:18] <marvtherobot> DrGrov, that sucks... not sure what else to say or suggest :). Sure there will be something simple to have you running at full scale again
[22:18] <DrGrov> I switched the display resolution from nVidia X Server Settings and it says advanced. Gives an option of panning.
[22:18] <pavlos> domMarley, the image you're running does not have something up-to-date and cannot play with https. Can you start another image on EC2 and test that?
[22:18] <meclo> hi all, guys i have a pentium 3 on this mobo GA-6VXE with 256 ram xD, i would like to make us of it, can i install some linux server on this or? what u recomend
[22:19] <domMarley> actually, its too much work, if i started a new one
[22:19] <histo> meclo: you can install a server or a lighter weight desktop
[22:19] <marvtherobot> meclo, you can install quite a few on there. Obviously it all depends on what you'd like to get out of it. You could run something like PuppyLinux on there if you wanted a desktop
[22:20] <Beldar> fivecentmike, It seems you just have a faulty install and or just not setup correctly I see anomalies in the boot info script, you probably just need someone who really knows this stuff, the forums has a couple, I would flag that thread header with a UEFI
[22:20] <histo> meclo: if you want the desktop route there is lubuntu xubuntu that are lighter. There is ubuntu server if you want a server install. Or you can use the net installer and install a command line system and work your way up.
[22:21] <domMarley> pavlos, i was expecting just to downgrade the right library
[22:21] <DrGrov> Ben64: So, I got figured out. It was as you mentioned 1360x768 but the TV can handle 1080p. Any idea on how to get it back to what it should be?
[22:21] <domMarley> pavlos, downgrade the right package i mean
[22:21] <DrGrov> Ben64: Would I have to do some tweaking in Nvidia?
[22:21] <pavlos> domMarley, since EC2 controls the image you use, they have to do something.
[22:21] <meclo> ubuntu server would work on this low machine?
[22:21] <domMarley> but the package was downloaded by security upgrade deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-security main
[22:22] <domMarley> pavlos, the line deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-security main is on my sources.list
[22:22] <marvtherobot> meclo; I think 256 RAM is the min recommended
[22:22] <k1l_> domMarley: it was a security fix for new openssl issues
[22:22] <marvtherobot> without a desktop
[22:22] <pavlos> domMarley, I'd say re-boot and see if https works
[22:22] <Beldar> fivecentmike, Where there no uefi I could be more like;y to be able to help myself, and same for many here. Except a 3 hors time to the grub menu is just weird.
[22:23] <domMarley> pavlos, thanks, lol i already tried that
[22:23] <domMarley> pavlos, its not a windows machine, lol
[22:23] <pavlos> domMarley, sorry, cant help further
[22:23] <k1l_> domMarley: and yes, i would suggest you ask the hoster what they have done wrong. since in a original ubuntu system it works
[22:23] <domMarley> pavlos, i know, i will contact amazon, thanks anyway
[22:24] <fivecentmike> Beldar, Yes, it is very strange. It used to be not ime at all, then a few minutes, and now this. It seems to keep increasing. Sorry for being a complete dunce, but I'm not sure what you mean. How can I edit the thread header to add a flag?
[22:25] <DrGrov> Slart: Any ideas on how to trick the system to 1920x1080 as it can handle and not getting stuck at 1360x768?
[22:25] <_1_Midnight^Terr> hi
[22:25] <_1_Midnight^Terr> how r u ppl
[22:26] <Beldar> fivecentmike, Go to the #ubuntuforums channel mods hang there and get their help.
[22:29] <zphinx> so like, im on a laptop with openbsd on it, and i really want to get rid if it and install ubuntu, but the cd drive isnt working, no usb around and pxe isnt an option... anyone got any ideas what i could do?
[22:29] <zphinx> ie, is there any options of a frugal install from a bsd
[22:30] <k1l_> zphinx: you can load iso images with grub. but dont ask me how exactly :)
[22:30] <Beldar> zphinx, you can use a usb or boot using grub, if that's what bsd has, there is a mini iso net install
[22:30] <MarkT-> Okay, I have a weird problem here and I'm not sure if its an ubuntu thing or not.... I've installed google-perftools and am trying to put -lprofiler on the end of the command to link the profiling library, but I get a message "ld: cannot find -lprofiler"
[22:31] <MarkT-> but libprofiler.so.0 is sitting there in /usr/lib
[22:32] <zphinx> no access to any usb, and openbsd doesnt use grub afaik
[22:33] <Poultra> hi
[22:34] <Poultra> salut
[22:34] <smrtz|nix> Hey, I'm making a script with upstart, and I'd like it to run after the computer has finished booting.  I don't want to use 'start on startup' because I need it to have networking started.  What would you guys recommend?
[22:34] <DrGrov> So, how can I set the resolution to  1920x1080 when I know it works? I want to override it, have had this same issue on my LG 42" but can not recall how I got help that time and sorted it out.
[22:35] <Poultra> smithkm wait command
[22:35] <smithkm> Poultra, Huh?
[22:35] <Poultra> DrGrov setres 1440x900
[22:35] <smrtz|nix> smithkm: I think that was ment for me? Poultra, was it?
[22:36] <Poultra> smithkm tyou dont know wait?
[22:37] <DrGrov> Poultra: What? Why do I want 1440x900 when I already stated it can handle 1920x1080?
[22:38] <smithkm> Poultra, like smrtz|nix said I think you've confused the two of us.
[22:38] <Poultra> smpitrhc if its linux so do like that
[22:38] <Beldar> zphinx, Is bsd using lilo?
[22:38] <smrtz|nix> Poultra: How would I find the PID of networking?
[22:38] <Poultra> mystartup.sh: Your startup script name
[22:39] <Poultra> # update-rc.d mystartup.sh defaults 100
[22:39] <smrtz|nix> But I want my start to startup after networking.
[22:39] <Poultra> what is you pid?
[22:39]  * smithkm returns to idling while writing unit tests.
[22:40] <smrtz|nix> Poultra: I don't have the script finished yet, so I can't test that.
[22:40] <Poultra> i dont know
[22:40] <Poultra> i have windows 8.1
[22:40] <smrtz|nix> OK.
[22:40] <Poultra> :p
[22:40] <DrGrov> Seriously, how the hell is this happening in 2014?
[22:40] <Poultra> in 204
[22:41] <gas-sho> well...
[22:41] <Poultra> 2014
[22:41] <zphinx> Beldar: their own homebrew i think
[22:41] <gas-sho> APPARENTLY -so- according to the information!
[22:41] <Poultra> brazilian football wordcup
[22:41] <smrtz|nix> Anyone know how to make my upstart script start after networking?
[22:41] <Poultra> so what else in 2014
[22:41] <Poultra> smithkm i have google
[22:42] <Beldar> zphinx, From here loks like you need a boot device is all a reader or usb
[22:43] <Poultra> smw i) Create a script called mystartup.sh in /etc/init.d/ directory(login as root)
[22:43] <smw> Poultra, wrong user
[22:43] <Poultra> smw "# vi /etc/init.d/mystartup.sh"
[22:44] <Poultra> smw thanks
[22:44] <godisanoobe> help
[22:44] <Poultra> what
[22:45] <Poultra> how to make a ubuntu follower of gps?
[22:46] <Poultra> since ubuntu .. who care programmers?
[22:46] <Poultra> and line command
[22:46] <Poultra> smw you only know ubuntu ?
[22:47] <JoeyJoeJo> I have a 32 bit kernel running on a 64 bit cpu. Can I upgrade to a 64 bit kernel via apt-get, or do I have to re-install the OS from scratch?
[22:47] <Beldar> Poultra, You are making a lot of posts none of which make any sense, what is your native language?
[22:47] <Poultra> JoeyJoeJo yes
[22:47] <k1l_> JoeyJoeJo: its not only the kernel that matters. make a reinstall
[22:47] <OerHeks> JoeyJoeJo, reinstall 64 bit ubuntu, is the only way
[22:47] <Poultra> Beldar do you intalled unix ?
[22:48] <DrGrov> Ben64: Slart Would it be possible override the 1920x1080 @ 60 Hz with modeline? I remember doing that for my LG 42" when it had this same issue.
[22:48] <k1l_> Poultra: please stick to ubuntu support in here. that is the focus of this channel
[22:48] <Poultra> k1l_ sory i discoverd ubuntu in 2009 .. i dont remember
[22:50] <Poultra> JoeyJoeJo i know the solluce for windows
[22:50] <k1l_> Poultra: enough now of that "advices" please
[22:51] <Poultra> k1l_ let me knwow about linux
[22:51] <Poultra> k1l_ im so old about that
[22:52] <DrGrov> Ben64: Apparently it is now ok again after I briefly went to 1360x768 and back to 1920x1080.
[22:52] <Poultra> and
[22:52] <Artemis3> Poultra, no chatting here :P
[22:52] <steven_> Hey
[22:52] <Poultra> salut
[22:53] <Poultra> Artemis3 tchat
[22:53] <Dengtk> Hello,I am a Chinese student.
[22:53] <Poultra> to tchat ! not to chat ..
[22:53] <k1l_> !ot | Poultra
[22:53] <Poultra> hello Dengtk
[22:53] <TELunus|2> I've been looking at gnome-session's *.session files, and I've noticed they all contain a DesktopName field.  After doing a bunch of googling, all I found was something to the effect of "must be Ubuntu specific".  So now I'm super curious: what does it actually DO?
[22:53] <Poultra> k1l_= killer
[22:54] <Poultra> :p
[22:55] <faoziaziz>  I using xubuntu but i can't setting proxy what should i do/?
[22:56] <Dengtk> But my English skills so bad.Grammar...
[22:56] <gas-sho> nihao
[22:56] <gas-sho> ^_^
[22:56] <Beldar> !cn | Dengtk maybe here
[22:57] <AvArist> \rax
[22:57] <Dengtk> I like there.
[22:58] <DJ__> hi. i am trying to install lubuntu-desktop but i keep getting Errors were encountered while processing:  /var/cache/apt/archives/lubuntu-default-settings_0.39_all.deb
[22:58] <Artemis3> #ubuntu channel is for ubuntu support questions only
[22:59] <faoziaziz> hoi
[22:59] <gas-sho> hei
[22:59] <faoziaziz> pease answe me
[22:59] <Dengtk> I can understand,but I can't impress
[22:59] <histo> faoziaziz: /join #xubuntu
[22:59] <gas-sho> i have absolutely no way to assist you dear faoziaziz
[23:00] <gas-sho> thanks hid
[23:00] <gas-sho> histo
[23:00] <gas-sho> hehe
[23:00] <faoziaziz> thanks histo
[23:05] <Dengtk> 14.04 Chinese fonts so ugly...
[23:06] <gas-sho> :/
[23:06] <histo> Dengtk: no one in here is going to know about that. Perhaps /join #ubuntu-cn
[23:06] <Dengtk> I konw
[23:07] <WilsonMathew> hello
[23:07] <histo> Dengtk: okay do you have a ubuntu related question then?
[23:08] <OerHeks> Dengtk, check out ubuntu-kylin, maybe you can make better fonts
[23:09] <d4t> has anyone tried roflbuntu?
[23:09] <d4t> nu distro
[23:09] <Psil0Cybin> lol
[23:09] <Psil0Cybin> no
[23:09] <OerHeks> d4t, as it is not ubuntu, it is offtopic
[23:12] <utack> hi. how do i see if automatic trim was enabled when upgrading to 14.04?
[23:15] <utack> cronjob apparently
[23:19] <robotdevil> does anyone have good instructions for compiling older versions of chromium?
[23:21] <saiarcot895> robotdevil: let me guess: to get away from Aura and use NPAPI plugins?
[23:24] <Weishen> Does Ubuntu support pptp vpn?
[23:25] <cobracommand> do you think ubuntu will overtake red hat in the business world?
[23:26] <k1l> cobracommand: i think that is a better topic for the discussion channel: #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:28] <nightray> how can I move an application to the notification area (to that envelop)?
[23:29] <JamesMc> Hello. I am new here and to IRC in general. What does everyone feel about Lubuntu? I am using Ubuntu 13.10 but thinking of changeover.
[23:29] <cobracommand> isn't that for low spec machines?
[23:30] <cobracommand> I think if your computer is slow then switch to it, but if you have a fast computer there's no point
[23:30] <k1l> JamesMc: if you are satisfied with lubuntu why change?
[23:31] <k1l> *ubuntu
[23:32] <damiencriado> hi
[23:32] <JamesMc> By changing to Lubuntu, I hope to have more leftover resources fo bigger apps like LibreOffice or Kino
[23:32] <cobracommand> how much hard drive space do you have?
[23:32] <cobracommand> buy a new hard drive...
[23:32] <k1l> JamesMc: yes, lubuntu is a more lightweight desktop. you could install the lubuntu-desktop and switch to it on the login screen
[23:34] <JamesMc> I have a 300 gig hd
[23:35] <JamesMc> I have HP 64-bit dual-cpu laptop
[23:37] <kartK1> JamesMc: then why lubuntu? urs is def not low specc'd machine.
[23:37] <JamesMc> I guess I like the idea of having Ubuntu without a lot of stuff running in the background.
[23:37] <kartK1> JamesMc: hmm then remove modules that you no longer use, and see if that helps.
[23:38] <kartK1> JamesMc: switching OS for disk space is not smething I'd recommend. my 2 cents sir.
[23:38] <DrGrov> Anyone around and remember my earlier question about getting the display to 1920x1080 since it supports it but I am reasonably stuck at 1360x768?
 With my luck... I yank the wrong module and trash the whole system.
[23:38] <k1l> its not about disk-space
[23:39] <Bashing-om> JamesMc: Sounds like a prime candidate to run ubuntu minimal .. core ubuntu installation and only then install what you want.
[23:39] <k1l> JamesMc: like i told: install the lubuntu-desktop package and give it a go
[23:39] <kartK1> JamesMc: infact if u do a quick google, there are some guides that tell you how to switch from an exisitng installation to a ubuntu minimal
[23:40] <kartK1> k1l: but doing that wont replace his old modules right? he'd stll have to go and manually remove the other un-used GUI modules.
[23:41] <k1l> kartK1: why modules?
[23:41] <kartK1> k1l: i meant packgaes.
[23:41] <k1l> kartK1: he is talking about free ram and free cpu-time.
[23:41] <JamesMc> Kl1 - are you saying install normal Ubuntu ... then add Lubuntu desktop later?
[23:42] <k1l> that got nothing to do with modules or disk-space. its about services that run in the background
[23:42] <kartK1> k1l: hmm i thought he was talking about disk space.
[23:42] <k1l> JamesMc: you said you are on ubuntu already
[23:42] <JamesMc> Yes. I am using Ubuntu with Gnome desktop.
[23:43] <kartK1> DrGrov: have you tried enabling additional drivers?
[23:43] <k1l> JamesMc: so: install "lubuntu-desktop" package, go to the login screen and choose lubuntu there. and voila you got a lubuntu system
[23:43] <DrGrov> kartK1: Yes, I have had it working before here with old 42" LG TV, got a 46" Grundig LED TV today.
[23:44] <k1l> JamesMc: you can go for lxde package if you want a more slim lxde descktop
[23:44] <DrGrov> kartK1: So I know it was working, can not just remember how I got it working.
[23:45] <JamesMc> Humm... Kli - that would save me the hassle of backup all data!
[23:45] <DrGrov> Could I copy it over from nVidia X Server Settings into a xorg.conf and manually do a modeline to get it working without reverting?
[23:45] <k1l> JamesMc: yes, but having a backup will help if something other (like a hdd hardware failure) goes wrong.
[23:47] <kartK1> DrGrov: open up ubuntun software center, goto edit -> software & updates, and in there additional drivers. try to remove the old graphics thingy and re-enable them. atleast thats what i did when i switched.
[23:48] <kartK1> DrGrov: i mean Edit -> software Sources
[23:49] <DrGrov> kartK1: Unfortunately I am quite sure that would not do me any good. But of course, a try can not hurt.
[23:49] <syukronrm> Hi guys, is there an alternative to jupiter? on 12.04
[23:49] <DrGrov> As I said, had this issues before on the LG but can not remember how I sorted it out so that I "forced" the TV a a screen to only use 1920x1080 from within a modeline that specifically said the correct VertRefresh and HorizSync
[23:50] <gbb> I have an apt-get upgrade problem with  initramfs-tools (0.103ubuntu4.2) --- see: http://apaste.info/7xL
[23:51] <JamesMc> Big question... once the Lubuntu desktop (LXDE desktop) is up and running - do I still leave the old desktop files on hard drive?
[23:51] <k1l> gbb: kernel 3.14? what ubuntu is this?
[23:51] <k1l> JamesMc: you can keep them. they dont harm
[23:51] <k1l> JamesMc: or you remove the ....-desktop package from the old desktop
[23:52] <gbb> k1| trusty 14.04
[23:52] <k1l> gbb: well, that is not a trusty kernel
[23:53] <OerHeks> gbb, did you add a kernel ppa ?
[23:53] <k1l> gbb: its the PPA you use that makes the trouble. use ppa-purge to get rid of that and the packages that came from there
[23:53] <gbb> ok, wonder how it gotten into my upgrade.  Nope, I haven't.  But it might be that someone else who uses my machine is 'guilty' here.
[23:54] <gbb> ok I try that, thanks :)
[23:54] <OerHeks> gbb i see a slight diff between ubuntu kernel number and your error. so you must have taken a kernel not from the repositorys
[23:57] <gbb> I usually don't play at that level, but it may be that weeks ago my housemate experimented.
[23:59] <gbb> although I did an upgrade since then that went without a hitch.  I'll try the ppa-purge thingy
[23:59] <JamesMc> Much to think about. Must go now but will try to be back next week.