[00:14] <darkxst> Noskcaj, there was a reason devhelp was stuck on 3.8
[01:16] <Noskcaj> darkxst, and that was?
[01:46] <darkxst> Noskcaj, not entirely sure, maybe buggy UI
[01:47] <darkxst> check with seb
[02:46] <Noskcaj> ok
[02:46] <Noskcaj> ANy idea why the libgweather merge has been ignored?
[02:53] <darkxst> Noskcaj, its not showing in the queue (and I can't upload it)
[02:55] <Noskcaj> it's an ubuntu-desktop package, but sponsors should be subscribed
[02:56] <darkxst> it would be in the sponsor queue if sponsors was subscribed!
[03:01] <darkxst> Noskcaj, and it will likely go unnoticed if not in the queue ;)
[03:22]  * darkxst should really get around to applying for -desktop
[03:30] <darkxst> ahoneybun, hey
[03:31] <darkxst> ahoneybun, oh dear, did you forget just about everything!
[03:31] <ahoneybun> ...maybe
[03:32] <darkxst> anyway keep playing around, read the man pages for commands you don't understand! I am sure it will all come back pretty quickly!
[03:32]  * ahoneybun is a bit discourged
[03:33] <ahoneybun> btw gnome-control-center 3.12 fixed the issue I had
[03:33] <darkxst> ahoneybun, first call when a command fails, is `man <command>`
[03:33] <ahoneybun> yea
[03:34] <ahoneybun> I have 14.04 on my powerful/gaming/class notebook and 14.10 on my spare macbook
[03:35]  * darkxst only has 14.04 in VM's
[03:36] <darkxst> my sources.list files on real hardware track 'devel'
[03:39] <darkxst> ahoneybun, btw once you understand the half dozen or so commands, packaging itself it fairly straight forward
[03:39] <ahoneybun> nice
[03:39]  * ahoneybun does not believe that
[03:39] <darkxst> its the patching/bug fixing that is far more involved
[03:40] <darkxst> ahoneybun, ask Noskcaj!
[03:40] <ahoneybun> darkxst: seems that most have patches
[03:40] <ahoneybun> I think ricoz is tired of me lol
[03:41] <ahoneybun> I have my notebook, macbook and a spare monitor on one keyboard and one mouse
[03:41] <darkxst> I think ricotz was annoyed you asking questions, that could have easily be answered by a quick google
[03:42] <darkxst> ahoneybun, synergy?
[03:42] <ahoneybun> yep
[03:42] <darkxst> I used to use that, but now just have 3 monitors on my desktop ;)
[03:43] <ahoneybun> yea but I have 2 machines
[03:43] <ahoneybun> so
[03:44] <ahoneybun> gnome shell is like flying when it comes to multi tasking
[03:47] <darkxst> ahoneybun, how many machines do you think I have?
[03:47] <ahoneybun> who knows
[03:48] <darkxst> try guess!
[03:49] <ahoneybun> 3?
[03:50] <darkxst> ahoneybun, desktop, 2 headless servers, laptop, vps and direct access to dedi server when I need it
[03:51] <darkxst> thats a little more than 3!
[03:51] <ahoneybun> well
[03:51] <ahoneybun> I have 1 server lol
[03:51]  * darkxst would love to add a jetson tk1 to that list, but they are hard to get in Aus
[03:52] <Noskcaj> I've got laptop, gaming pc, and 3 not finished testing pcs
[03:52] <darkxst> or impossible even
[03:53] <darkxst> Noskcaj, you would be far more productive if you didnt have a gaming pc ;)
[03:53] <Noskcaj> true. but dota
[03:54] <ahoneybun> Noskcaj: windows or linux?
[03:55] <Noskcaj> windows on the gaming pc (dota on linux is always broken)
[03:55] <Noskcaj> xubuntu 14.10 on the laptop
[03:55] <darkxst> lol, I have free valve the ubuntu/debian dev steam thing, but have only played max 10mins!
[03:55] <ahoneybun> I have a ps3 for most things
[03:55] <ahoneybun> steam machine?
[03:55] <darkxst> ahoneybun, valve give free subscriptions to debian/ubuntu debs
[03:55] <darkxst> devs
[03:56] <ahoneybun> devs?
[03:56] <darkxst> for all valve games
[03:56] <darkxst> yes devs
[03:56] <ahoneybun> oh did not see that last part
[03:56] <darkxst> (i.e anyone with upload rights to the main archives)
[03:56] <Noskcaj> darkxst, I'll have to get ubuntu hats made that we can get too
[03:56] <Noskcaj> becuase valve
[03:57] <darkxst> Noskcaj, you mean Ubuntu GNOME hats :)
[03:58] <Noskcaj> :)
[04:07] <Noskcaj> why does gnome weather need a thousand new b-deps for one test?
[04:11] <darkxst> no idea
[04:12] <darkxst> though I doubt its really a thousand!
[04:15] <darkxst> in fact, I don't see any new build-deps
[04:16] <darkxst> (coverage and dogtail can be disabled)
[07:13] <DefragDoll> Hey, can someone help me out? I've got an Nvidia card (either a gtx 680 or gt 680 I can't recall the details, I'm a noob) and an EVGA x58 FTW3 Motherboard, and I can't seem to get HDMI audio working under Trusty, when the vanilla Ubuntu release seems to have HDMI audio for this card working prety much "out of the box" so to speak. So I'm trying to figure what is different between the Ubuntu release and the Ubuntu GNOME re
[07:13] <DefragDoll> lease that is keeping me from getting my HDMI sound working. Any help would be appreciated and I hope I haven't been too vague.
[07:17] <DefragDoll> b4el: Hey, can you help me out? I've got an Nvidia gtx 680 and an EVGA x58 FTW3 Motherboard, and I can't seem to get HDMI audio working under Trusty, when the vanilla Ubuntu release seems to have HDMI audio for this card working prety much "out of the box" so to speak. So I'm trying to figure what is different between the Ubuntu release and the Ubuntu GNOME release that is keeping me from getting my HDMI sound working. An
[07:17] <DefragDoll> y help would be appreciated.
[07:17] <darkxst> DefragDoll, I don't think there is any really difference
[07:18] <darkxst> between vanilla ubuntu and ubuntu GNOME when it comes to audio]
[07:18] <DefragDoll> yeah but there obviously is, or else there would be no difference in the functioning
[07:18] <darkxst> are you using the nvidia blobs?
[07:18] <DefragDoll> blobs?
[07:18] <darkxst> proprietry drivers
[07:19] <DefragDoll> I tried the xorg driver and it doesn't work, so thein I tried the the Nvidia driver that said "tested" and it didnt seem to either but also crashed my x session on me atone point too
[07:19] <darkxst> hdmi audio is working fine here, although I am on 14.10 + gnome3-staging ppa
[07:20] <darkxst> I have heard lots of reports of issues with hdmi audio on noveau
[07:20] <DefragDoll> ok, hmm, let me try the NVIDA blogs again
[07:20] <darkxst> *blobs*!
[07:22] <darkxst> try with nvidia-331
[07:23] <DefragDoll> yeah I'm a bit of a bad typist
[07:23] <DefragDoll> I meant blobs hehe
[07:26] <DefragDoll> Should I reboot after changing drivers? My brain tells me that's MSWin logic speaking, but do you think it would be helpful anyway?
[07:26] <darkxst> DefragDoll, you need to alteast restart X, but reboot is probably easiest!
[07:27] <DefragDoll> Ok, I'll be back in just a few.
[07:27] <DefragDoll> Thanks.
[07:32] <DefragDoll> darkxst: DERP! That was all I needed was a flippin restart. I don't think I've ever felt like such a noob in my life! XD
[07:32] <DefragDoll> darkxst: LOL thanks.
[07:34] <darkxst> p
[07:35] <darkxst> np
[07:37] <DefragDoll> Guess that's what happens when you try to troubleshoot in the midst of a migraine, the simplest things can run right past ya.
[07:44] <darkxst> DefragDoll, don't worry I usually get a migraine when I have to use MS crap
[07:47] <DefragDoll> Haha ya I hear ya
[07:59] <Noskcaj> I'm slowly working on the list of other packages
[08:39] <darkxst> Noskcaj, ok, thanks!
[08:40] <Noskcaj> Still no replys from sugar and kde though
[08:40] <darkxst> upstream or debian?
[08:41] <Noskcaj> debian and upstream for sugar, ubuntu for kde
[08:41] <darkxst> I though I saw kde patches floating around?
[08:43] <darkxst> and sugar is more often than not just a pita
[08:47] <Noskcaj> kde has probably done it
[08:47] <Noskcaj> i just don't know their exact needs
[09:07] <darkxst> Noskcaj, I don't care much for Kubuntu, I think their attacks on MIR were childish at best
[10:16] <framac_> Hi I've just installed ubuntu-gnome 14.04 and installed the gnome ppas. When I go to gnome extensions website it doens't detect it, any suggestions?
[10:18] <darkxst> framac, what browser?
[10:18] <framac> chrome
[10:22] <darkxst> framac, latest chrome is broken, use firefox
[10:22] <darkxst> (chrome dropped npapi, which is required for the extension plugin that makes things work)
[10:26] <framac> darkxst: thks just tested with firefox and it's working just fine.
[10:27] <darkxst> framac, there is an upstream bug for chrome support
[10:27] <darkxst> no idea, if they consider it important enough to port the pluging over to ppapi
[10:31] <framac> darkxst: I'm using the gnome-staging ppa. Do you think it's stable enough for daily use
[10:31] <darkxst> framac, yes
[10:32] <darkxst> atleast while it is at 3.12
[10:32] <framac> darkxst: sometimes the system feel to hang just a little bit.
[10:33] <darkxst> there will be probably be a couple of rough bumps once we transition to 3.13 on utopic
[10:33] <framac> darkxst: are there any plans for backporting gnome 3.14 to 14.04?
[10:33] <darkxst> framac, that is about the most useless comment anyone could make!
[10:33] <darkxst> framac, and nope, that won't happen
[10:34] <framac> darkxst: I'm also having some problem with external monitors setup. To which package should a file a bug. I'm using the nouveau driver.
[10:35] <darkxst> framac, try with the nvidia drivers, if its still an issue there, just file againt gnome-shell
[10:35] <darkxst> actually just file against gnome-shell'
[10:36] <framac> well , with nvidia drivers. I can't even pass the login screen
[17:41] <allstarsnorks2> Hi guys. I'm currently remastering Ubuntu GNOME. How do I make sure the GNOME Extensions that I installed launch when I boot into my remastered Ubuntu GNOME?
[22:31] <mkdmz> Can someone help me with creating a mimetype for my applications custom docuements?  I want the applcation icon to show up for my custom documents.  I have a question here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/483396/how-do-i-set-up-a-custom-icons-for-my-pygi-app-documents
[22:59] <darkxst> mkdmz icon come from .desktop files
[23:00] <mkdmz> ok, can you tell me in that link, where I am going wrong?
[23:00] <mkdmz> My application creates new documents, so I want a special icon to show up for those documents.
[23:04] <darkxst> mkdmz, does you desktop file work? ie does you app show up in shell overview apps?
[23:04] <mkdmz> The desktop file works.  I it shows my icon.  I launches my app.  But that's not my question.
[23:05] <mkdmz> My app creates files, those files a json text files.  They can only be opened by my app.  They have an extesion.  I want the file manager to show a custom icon for those extensions.
[23:07] <mkdmz> My extesion does not exist on the system, so I followed online wikis and Official Ubuntu documentation, but they don't work.
[23:10] <darkxst> mkdmz, I don't really know
[23:10] <mkdmz> That's too bad, we are the majority.  Where is the community?
[23:10] <darkxst> however try dropping the magic tags from your xml file (or update the search value to something that really exists in your file?)
[23:12] <mkdmz> I'm following some scatter advice, I have no idea if any one of these people really know what the hell is going on.
[23:12] <darkxst> delete "<magic priority="50">
[23:12] <darkxst>        <match value="search-string" type="string" offset="10:140"/>
[23:12] <darkxst>      </magic>"
[23:13] <darkxst> you only need the glob if you are just doing extension matching
[23:13] <mkdmz> Ok, I'll take out that property
[23:13] <mkdmz> Yeah, but would this magic interfere?  Should glob just work ?
[23:14] <mkdmz> If magic doesn't find anything, but glob does, it seems like the icon should appear for my docs?
[23:15] <darkxst> mkdmz, I suspect it may want to match both
[23:15] <mkdmz> I could put a magic number in there for the json file.
[23:15] <mkdmz> You think so?  Ok,  I'll give that a shot.
[23:15] <darkxst> no you really don't want to use magic, it is slow!
[23:17] <mkdmz> I just copied that,  I didn't think about.  So, that must be how it can find a file type that has no ext?
[23:20] <darkxst> mkdmz, this is half the problem, people just cut+paste any old thing from the internet!
[23:20] <darkxst> without thinking or understanding!
[23:21] <darkxst> mkdmz, also the filename of the xml file, should probably match your mime-type
[23:21] <darkxst> i.e. x-story.xml
[23:22] <mkdmz> what is the x for , I'm assuming execute
[23:22] <mkdmz> But, my extension is ".story"
[23:23] <darkxst> mkdmz, your mimetype is "x-story"
[23:23] <mkdmz> so x means extension then?
[23:24] <darkxst> mkdmz, its probably just arbitrary, maybe related to X11 ;)
[23:25] <mkdmz> I've noticed that in some places there is an x with an extension name, then in some cases there isn't.  I haven't figured out the pattern or no why, part of why I don't know what is going on wit the x.
[23:26] <mkdmz> Where I need it, where I don't, just doesn't make sense.
[23:26] <darkxst> it will be nothing more than a naming convention
[23:26] <darkxst> just make sure things all match up!
[23:28] <mkdmz> I removed the magic property from the xml file.  I log out/in.  Doesn't have the icon.  Doesn't launch my app when I click on it.  I updated the icon cache and mime data base as well.
[23:32] <darkxst> http://pastebin.com/6eX3ukqe
[23:41] <mkdmz> ok, I'm am trying text/x-story now.  Although.  I'm wondering if application is the problem.
[23:46] <ahoneybun> darkxst: I see nvidia driver for dual graphic laptops are not working
[23:46] <mkdmz> darkxst: Have you tried just created a document like document.myExt and going through this process?  Are you using ubunutu gnome?  It doesn't take that long, it just taking me so long because I have to try every million como's.
[23:46] <mkdmz> combos
[23:47] <darkxst> ahoneybun, it should be working in utopic, needs to be backported to trusty though
[23:47] <ahoneybun> darkxst: I see
[23:47] <ahoneybun> I say you in a bug report talking about it
[23:47] <ahoneybun> *saw
[23:48] <darkxst> ahoneybun, ppa:darkxst/gdm-prime
[23:48] <ahoneybun> does that hold the nvidia stuff for trusty?
[23:49] <darkxst> yes
[23:50] <ahoneybun> seems the only reason I cared about it (a game not working with the free nvidia driver) is kinda working in Ubuntu GNOME with it
[23:50] <ahoneybun> weird did not work in kubuntu with the free nvidia driver
[23:50] <darkxst> ahoneybun, kdm has not been patched afaik
[23:51] <ahoneybun> kdm was not the problem because kubuntu uses lightdm
[23:51] <ahoneybun> it worked fine just me a message about dvms not loading or something but I hit okay and it worked fine
[23:52] <ahoneybun> now that ppa has drivers and gdm
[23:53] <ahoneybun> but I think that is a older version of gdm I have the gnome3 and staging ppas on
[23:54]  * ahoneybun kinda wanted to try out fedora 20
[23:55] <ahoneybun> darkxst: now if I installed the nonfree nvidia driver with the add driver app it will not get stuck at the loading screen?
[23:56] <darkxst> gdm on -staging might not have the fix, not sure
[23:57] <ahoneybun> sounds like fin
[23:57] <ahoneybun> *fun