[11:20] <DanChapman> elfy, hey so are you saying the language list view isn't visible in the current daily images? Looking at the autopilot log for todays non english default it says it found a list of visible languages and selected Slovenian fine, (from the log "10:18:16.858 DEBUG gtkcontainers:93 - Install language successfully selected! :-)" the test should be failing if it's not visible and is not selected after the mouse  click, to save me downloading the
[11:20] <DanChapman> latest images, could you explain what is actually happening so I can see why the test isn't failing
[11:33] <elfy> DanChapman: get an image - boot it - you'll see what's up pretty quickly, bug 1325632
[11:34] <elfy> I see you don't want to get one - I'll grab some screenshots
[11:35] <elfy> http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-150614-123453.php
[11:37] <elfy> that's how ubuntu boots - no way to pick language - then you don't get the try or install choice - boots straight to desktop - it DOES install now though
[11:51] <DanChapman> elfy just run the test_nonenglish_default on xubuntu daily and it's fine https://www.dropbox.com/s/0imat0c1824gbn2/xubuntu_ubiquity2014-06-1512%3A48%3A01.png
[11:53] <DanChapman> the tests bypass ubiquity-dm and loads straight to live desktop and from there it launches ubiquity, there is no way to test the try/install page :-( but from the live desktop it had no problems launching it and everything was visible and functioning fine
[11:57] <elfy> DanChapman: right - what the issue is, isn't that you can change the install languge - if the test is testing that - then that's ok
[11:58] <elfy> what you can't do is change language at the beginning
[11:58] <DanChapman> elfy ahh on the try/install page?
[11:58] <elfy> no
[11:58]  * DanChapman is confused now
[11:59] <DanChapman> :-D
[11:59] <elfy> RIGHT at the beginning - at the bit where the human/kbd thing is:)
[11:59] <elfy> if the test is testing later then that's fine :)
[12:00] <elfy> sigh
[12:00] <elfy> trying to get a pic lol
[12:00] <DanChapman> now i got ya. :-p
[12:00] <elfy> aah cool :)
[12:01] <elfy> I was just concerned that the autotest was testing something  and being happy but real life is showing something else :)
[12:07] <DanChapman> yes i see your concern on that one. The test runner when setting up the tests basically skips everything booting into a live session. Well at least you know ubiquity in a live session is all good, just everything before it seems not :-(
[12:08] <elfy> thanks DanChapman :)
[18:35] <Gerry_> hi I am looking for advice about joining the quality team
[20:54] <xnox> DanChapman: yes, there is currently a bug with all installers. After switch to syslinux 6, they no longer seem to pass correct boot time options and thus do not boot into "maybe-ubiquity mode" (aka try or install ubiquity) and instead do the default option of simply booting into the live session.