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bigcalmGood morning peeps :)08:15
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.09:27
daftykinsme right now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEmklTvAkbM12:14
penguin42hmm, hadn't looked up the lyrics for 'Super Trouper before - I wonder how the people of Glasgow feel about the line 'I was sick and tired of everything When I called you last night from Glasgow'12:47
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mappshi al19:23
diddledanm0019:26
mappssup19:33
daftykinshello19:47
daftykinsmapps: what's new?19:47
mappsnot much19:48
mappsin czech now19:48
mapps:D19:48
daftykins:O19:48
diddledanwhat are you doing in such a random place?19:48
daftykinsmapps: Pilsner Urquell comes highly recommended by a mate, though he's not into the kinda drinks i am. Czech beer, though19:48
diddledanI think doesn'texististan is near there, right?19:49
mappsit is nice daftykins19:49
mappsbut i feel too rough to drink atm tbh19:49
diddledanaah, you've got chequered-belly :-p19:49
diddledananyone fancy a game of chess?19:50
mappshahaha diddledan  seeing a friend19:50
diddledan:-p19:50
mappsi work with19:50
mapps;D19:50
diddledanmapps can be the chess-board19:50
daftykinsi'm at last taking apart my own laptop19:51
popeymoo19:51
daftykinsfeels kinda... weird to be working on my own19:51
daftykinspopey: o/19:51
shaunobecause you've no-one else to blame if you find fully-grown dust bunnies in there?19:51
diddledanpopey: my sentiments exactly - as evidenced by my own utterance at [20:26:07]19:52
daftykinsshauno: i will definitely be blaming my cat19:52
shaunoI'm not sure I'd trust a cat with cleaning the fan vents19:52
diddledancats are likely to forget the anti-static strap19:53
shaunoor make poor contact with it19:53
daftykinswhy yes, we all use said straps *whistle*19:53
popeyI think i may re-install ubuntu on my laptop19:53
popeypondering what disk layout to use19:53
mappsdaftykins,  howcome youre working19:54
diddledanpopey: I'd go for MBR or GPT myself19:54
diddledan</troll> :-p19:54
shaunotsk tsk tsk daftykins19:54
popeypondering raid019:54
diddledanooh, pushing the boat out19:54
daftykinsmapps: given it being sunday?19:54
popeywondering if it actually will make any difference19:55
shaunoyou really should.  almost all esd damage is really, really subtle.19:55
mappsjust doing what19:55
daftykinspopey: across a pair o' SSDs?19:55
popeyyes19:55
daftykinsdo recent Linux kernels pass TRIM to members of such a config fine, still?19:56
popeyyes19:56
daftykinsi believe in the Windows world it's been a quirk/challenge with Intel drivers for quite some time19:56
popeybut there's some evidence that its better to not do that19:56
popeybut just run a cron job periodically to trim the drives19:57
daftykinsinteresting19:57
daftykinsmapps: SSD upgrade time20:08
mappsah20:09
daftykinsha-har, a perfectly clean cooler20:09
daftykinsnot even a cat living with me has tainted this Asus yet :>20:09
daftykinshttps://www.dropbox.com/sh/xk74zq82f1f5ivc/AAC9bMkfSRTl-DRJo6DZbdKHa20:37
diddledanhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HD5vDs0RBY20:46
daftykinshaha20:56
daftykinsnow the Stig stuff is the part of TG that i *can* handle, since there's no talking ;)20:57
diddledanlol21:00
daftykinsthank you Guernsey health benefit card, you make opening my laptop so easy21:01
diddledan:-)21:01
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daftykinshaha, benchmarking this new SSD now21:14
daftykinsomw21:14
diddledanthat bad?21:17
daftykinsthat good!21:17
diddledanbah21:17
daftykins256GB Crucial m4 -> 512GB Crucial MX10021:18
diddledanooh, twice as long21:18
daftykinshttps://www.dropbox.com/s/480wh0a1uh1w50z/Crucial%20upgrade.png21:20
diddledandoubled the top two21:21
diddledanthe bottom two are similar or slightly better21:21
diddledanI wonder why the write on 4k went down?21:22
daftykinsyeah, not sure21:23
daftykinsit's pretty close though21:23
diddledanmight be because the operating system is different21:23
daftykinsamusingly Crucial's website doesn't even have the MX100 listed on the support pages yet21:23
daftykinsja21:23
diddledanso it's more a platform issue21:23
diddledanat least overall it's a much faster drive21:23
daftykinswill i see it of course, is another thing... but meh, twice the size21:24
daftykins£133 delivered for 512GB and that performance is just... mind blowing21:24
diddledanyeah, I tend to be of the opinion with SSD that provided it is "average speed for an ssd" I won't notice much difference between different models - it's the transition from hdd to ssd that I'll notice21:25
daftykinsabsolutely21:25
diddledanand as you say, space has been the problem with SSD until recently21:26
diddledanfinally we're getting decent space for the price21:26
diddledanit's almost worthwhile now for putting things on besides your OS21:26
diddledanI've got a 128G in my desktop - it's too small to do anything with really21:27
daftykinsyeah, i could *almost* consider putting my music collection on21:27
diddledanconsidering the main benefit is for games which need to load large textures and models it's really been a case that you can only have one decent AAA game installed at a time21:28
diddledanconsider for example the starwarts online thingy is a 20GB download21:28
diddledanp.s. pew pew21:29
daftykinslol21:34
daftykinsknew this would happen21:34
daftykinsi accidentally activated my win8.1 upgrade copy once in a VM21:34
diddledanjust phone the number21:35
diddledanI've done it many times21:35
daftykinsi just had to phone MS and go through the whole system of entering 8 blocks of 6 digits21:35
daftykinsyarr21:35
daftykinshave you heard their new audible CAPTCHA? :)21:35
diddledanis it meant to be a CAPTCHA?21:35
daftykinshilariously it's asked me to enter "eleven" on both calls i've recently placed, now21:35
daftykinsi'd expect so21:35
diddledanor just a way of calibrating?21:36
daftykinscalibrating 0o21:36
diddledane.g. press # twice21:36
daftykinswell a guy's voice says "for security purposes please enter the number: <number in word form>"21:37
diddledanyeah, they route all those calls to the US so I would imagine they have to cope with various different country-specific tones21:37
daftykins*nod*21:37
daftykinsnow for 947MB of updates (round 1)21:37
diddledanI'm not saying you're wrong, and I'm right, just positing an alternative thought - it could be either really21:38
diddledanmaybe they have had issues with pirates gaming the phoneline?21:38
diddledanpirates are a pretty inventive lot, so it wouldn't surprise me if they'd found a way of automating activations21:39
daftykins:) yeah, i figured they may've done something21:40
daftykinsit was a bit odd that i just had to press 1 to say i had it installed only on 1 computer21:40
daftykinsi know that's been true for years, but their records would show two vastly different hardware IDs21:40
diddledanyeah, I've done that route many times21:40
diddledanI've even switched between virtual install to physical and back many times21:41
daftykins:D21:42
daftykinswith much time between each transition?21:42
diddledanusually the old system had been offline for a while so they may have marked it as idle/dead by the time I installed anew. as to successive switches it's sometimes been as close as a week21:47
daftykinsdiddledan: i just decided to benchmark a fair selection of my drives23:07
daftykinshttps://www.dropbox.com/s/p59zslb8e7wy9ms/drives.png23:07
andreasHi guys. I have installed ubuntu 14.04 at my Dell Inpiron. However I have huge problem with my wifi. It finds my wifi hotspot23:09
andreasand connect to that.23:09
daftykinsok23:09
daftykinsbut?23:09
andreashowever, it gets disconnected after a couple of minutes23:09
andreasand I have no Idea why...23:09
daftykinswere you by any chance asking this very question in #ubuntu just earlier this evening?23:10
andreasIt stays connected only for a few minutes and again disconnected...23:10
andreasNo :)23:10
andreasI have just opened IRC23:10
daftykinsok just checking, i thought i saw part of a very similar conversation23:10
daftykinshave you attempted to view logs to see what happens at the point of these disconnections?23:11
andreasyes, but I am very new to this, and I have no idea what the problem might be...23:12
andreasDo you want to paste that at pastebin?23:12
andreas*do you want me to paste this to pastebin?23:13
daftykinsthat would definitely be best yeah, probably the kernel log for issues of that kind i think - this is a bit of a grey area for my experience23:14
andreasok, thanks, I am doing that now :)23:15
daftykinsandreas: also, do you know what the chipset/card is? a pastebin of "lspci" would be handy, or perhaps just the line from your Dell invoice if it's a new machine23:20
diddledano_O I just watched a discovery channel docu which is copyright MCMXV23:33
diddledanaka 191523:33
diddledanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV33Q6Nw99023:33
diddledanit's in colour23:33
diddledanand it features nuclear submarines23:34
diddledanmethinks someone got the date wrong?23:34
daftykinslol23:34
daftykinsthat would've made for a very different WW123:34
diddledanlol23:35
diddledanooh, I just noticed boobtube uses ssl by default now?23:36
diddledanor issit because I'm on a gapps domain user?23:36
daftykinsonly one way to confirm, use a nude browser!23:37
diddledanseems to not use ssl in an icognito window23:38
andreashi daftykins. Appologies for the delay, I had some problems. Here's the file https://www.dropbox.com/s/k70crfqdogcuapg/sdf.txt23:40
andreasand I am uploading the results of the lspci now23:40
daftykinsandreas: no problem, is that an example of the issue right there prior to the frequency table?23:42
daftykinswlan0: CTRL-EVENT-DISCONNECTED bssid=40:18:b1:74:5d:54 reason=3 locally_generated=123:42
andreasdaftykins: here is the result of the lspci as well http://tny.cz/4014717123:42
daftykinsok so we're looking at an intel 223023:42
diddledanyour dhcp server is set to renew leases every 30 seconds?!23:43
andreasdaftykins, I am sorry, I couldn't understand your question about the frequency table...23:43
daftykinsdon't worry23:43
andreasthanks :)23:44
diddledanandreas: it might be that your connection is requiring ipv6 but your ipv6 dhcp server isn't responding23:46
daftykinsandreas: and so we're definitely on stock 14.04 64-bit? fully upgraded?23:46
daftykinsandreas: ah, you're stuck on your university's residential wireless service i see? are you in halls? :)23:47
andreasdaftykins: thanks a lot. Yes I use 14.04 fully upgraded23:48
diddledanoh, did nobody tell the university that .local domain is reserved for avahi/mdns?23:48
andreasYes, I use my university's residential wireless service. That's true, I'm staying in halls23:49
diddledanthat might be why avahi is complaining about invalid this and that :-)23:49
daftykinsandreas: ok, that's useful as it means we know we can't reconfigure the other end23:49
diddledanandreas: hope you do well on your course :-)23:49
daftykinsdiddledan: is your IPv6 idea worth a run?23:50
andreasdiddledan: I have no idea about the avahi ...23:50
andreasdiddledan: Yes, thankfully :)23:50
diddledanandreas: I think avahi is just moaning - I don't think that's the cause of your issue23:51
andreasdiddledan: Thanks. Do you have any clue on what might be the problem?23:52
andreasdiddledan: or what I could try to fix it?23:53
diddledanI can't actually see it disconnecting alot in the log23:54
diddledanthere's loads of dhcp renews on an already established connection23:54
diddledanthis might be a problem but I don't know why: Jun 15 23:28:33 Oxford NetworkManager[908]: <info> (eth0): DHCPv4 state changed renew -> renew23:55
diddledanit's going straight from renew state to another renew state instead of accepting the address info23:55
andreasdiddledan: At some point, I had decided to use a wire instead of wireless...So that line maybe the result of this change23:56
diddledanaah yes, I missed that that line references eth0 not wlan023:57
andreas:)23:57
diddledanwood/trees23:57
daftykinsyou know those issues i was having with 14.04's samba the other day?23:57
daftykinsi was missing an = sign in the path definition =|23:57
daftykinsi hadn't run testparm >_<23:57
diddledanoops23:57
daftykinsmy eyes didn't even see it23:57

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