[08:15] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[09:27] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[12:14] <daftykins> me right now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEmklTvAkbM
[12:47] <penguin42> hmm, hadn't looked up the lyrics for 'Super Trouper before - I wonder how the people of Glasgow feel about the line 'I was sick and tired of everything When I called you last night from Glasgow'
[19:23] <mapps> hi al
[19:26] <diddledan> m00
[19:33] <mapps> sup
[19:47] <daftykins> hello
[19:47] <daftykins> mapps: what's new?
[19:48] <mapps> not much
[19:48] <mapps> in czech now
[19:48] <mapps> :D
[19:48] <daftykins> :O
[19:48] <diddledan> what are you doing in such a random place?
[19:48] <daftykins> mapps: Pilsner Urquell comes highly recommended by a mate, though he's not into the kinda drinks i am. Czech beer, though
[19:49] <diddledan> I think doesn'texististan is near there, right?
[19:49] <mapps> it is nice daftykins
[19:49] <mapps> but i feel too rough to drink atm tbh
[19:49] <diddledan> aah, you've got chequered-belly :-p
[19:50] <diddledan> anyone fancy a game of chess?
[19:50] <mapps> hahaha diddledan  seeing a friend
[19:50] <diddledan> :-p
[19:50] <mapps> i work with
[19:50] <mapps> ;D
[19:50] <diddledan> mapps can be the chess-board
[19:51] <daftykins> i'm at last taking apart my own laptop
[19:51] <popey> moo
[19:51] <daftykins> feels kinda... weird to be working on my own
[19:51] <daftykins> popey: o/
[19:51] <shauno> because you've no-one else to blame if you find fully-grown dust bunnies in there?
[19:52] <diddledan> popey: my sentiments exactly - as evidenced by my own utterance at [20:26:07]
[19:52] <daftykins> shauno: i will definitely be blaming my cat
[19:52] <shauno> I'm not sure I'd trust a cat with cleaning the fan vents
[19:53] <diddledan> cats are likely to forget the anti-static strap
[19:53] <shauno> or make poor contact with it
[19:53] <daftykins> why yes, we all use said straps *whistle*
[19:53] <popey> I think i may re-install ubuntu on my laptop
[19:53] <popey> pondering what disk layout to use
[19:54] <mapps> daftykins,  howcome youre working
[19:54] <diddledan> popey: I'd go for MBR or GPT myself
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[19:54] <shauno> tsk tsk tsk daftykins
[19:54] <popey> pondering raid0
[19:54] <diddledan> ooh, pushing the boat out
[19:54] <daftykins> mapps: given it being sunday?
[19:55] <popey> wondering if it actually will make any difference
[19:55] <shauno> you really should.  almost all esd damage is really, really subtle.
[19:55] <mapps> just doing what
[19:55] <daftykins> popey: across a pair o' SSDs?
[19:55] <popey> yes
[19:56] <daftykins> do recent Linux kernels pass TRIM to members of such a config fine, still?
[19:56] <popey> yes
[19:56] <daftykins> i believe in the Windows world it's been a quirk/challenge with Intel drivers for quite some time
[19:56] <popey> but there's some evidence that its better to not do that
[19:57] <popey> but just run a cron job periodically to trim the drives
[19:57] <daftykins> interesting
[20:08] <daftykins> mapps: SSD upgrade time
[20:09] <mapps> ah
[20:09] <daftykins> ha-har, a perfectly clean cooler
[20:09] <daftykins> not even a cat living with me has tainted this Asus yet :>
[20:37] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xk74zq82f1f5ivc/AAC9bMkfSRTl-DRJo6DZbdKHa
[20:46] <diddledan> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HD5vDs0RBY
[20:56] <daftykins> haha
[20:57] <daftykins> now the Stig stuff is the part of TG that i *can* handle, since there's no talking ;)
[21:00] <diddledan> lol
[21:01] <daftykins> thank you Guernsey health benefit card, you make opening my laptop so easy
[21:01] <diddledan> :-)
[21:14] <daftykins> haha, benchmarking this new SSD now
[21:14] <daftykins> omw
[21:17] <diddledan> that bad?
[21:17] <daftykins> that good!
[21:17] <diddledan> bah
[21:18] <daftykins> 256GB Crucial m4 -> 512GB Crucial MX100
[21:18] <diddledan> ooh, twice as long
[21:20] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/480wh0a1uh1w50z/Crucial%20upgrade.png
[21:21] <diddledan> doubled the top two
[21:21] <diddledan> the bottom two are similar or slightly better
[21:22] <diddledan> I wonder why the write on 4k went down?
[21:23] <daftykins> yeah, not sure
[21:23] <daftykins> it's pretty close though
[21:23] <diddledan> might be because the operating system is different
[21:23] <daftykins> amusingly Crucial's website doesn't even have the MX100 listed on the support pages yet
[21:23] <daftykins> ja
[21:23] <diddledan> so it's more a platform issue
[21:23] <diddledan> at least overall it's a much faster drive
[21:24] <daftykins> will i see it of course, is another thing... but meh, twice the size
[21:24] <daftykins> £133 delivered for 512GB and that performance is just... mind blowing
[21:25] <diddledan> yeah, I tend to be of the opinion with SSD that provided it is "average speed for an ssd" I won't notice much difference between different models - it's the transition from hdd to ssd that I'll notice
[21:25] <daftykins> absolutely
[21:26] <diddledan> and as you say, space has been the problem with SSD until recently
[21:26] <diddledan> finally we're getting decent space for the price
[21:26] <diddledan> it's almost worthwhile now for putting things on besides your OS
[21:27] <diddledan> I've got a 128G in my desktop - it's too small to do anything with really
[21:27] <daftykins> yeah, i could *almost* consider putting my music collection on
[21:28] <diddledan> considering the main benefit is for games which need to load large textures and models it's really been a case that you can only have one decent AAA game installed at a time
[21:28] <diddledan> consider for example the starwarts online thingy is a 20GB download
[21:29] <diddledan> p.s. pew pew
[21:34] <daftykins> lol
[21:34] <daftykins> knew this would happen
[21:34] <daftykins> i accidentally activated my win8.1 upgrade copy once in a VM
[21:35] <diddledan> just phone the number
[21:35] <diddledan> I've done it many times
[21:35] <daftykins> i just had to phone MS and go through the whole system of entering 8 blocks of 6 digits
[21:35] <daftykins> yarr
[21:35] <daftykins> have you heard their new audible CAPTCHA? :)
[21:35] <diddledan> is it meant to be a CAPTCHA?
[21:35] <daftykins> hilariously it's asked me to enter "eleven" on both calls i've recently placed, now
[21:35] <daftykins> i'd expect so
[21:36] <diddledan> or just a way of calibrating?
[21:36] <daftykins> calibrating 0o
[21:36] <diddledan> e.g. press # twice
[21:37] <daftykins> well a guy's voice says "for security purposes please enter the number: <number in word form>"
[21:37] <diddledan> yeah, they route all those calls to the US so I would imagine they have to cope with various different country-specific tones
[21:37] <daftykins> *nod*
[21:37] <daftykins> now for 947MB of updates (round 1)
[21:38] <diddledan> I'm not saying you're wrong, and I'm right, just positing an alternative thought - it could be either really
[21:38] <diddledan> maybe they have had issues with pirates gaming the phoneline?
[21:39] <diddledan> pirates are a pretty inventive lot, so it wouldn't surprise me if they'd found a way of automating activations
[21:40] <daftykins> :) yeah, i figured they may've done something
[21:40] <daftykins> it was a bit odd that i just had to press 1 to say i had it installed only on 1 computer
[21:40] <daftykins> i know that's been true for years, but their records would show two vastly different hardware IDs
[21:40] <diddledan> yeah, I've done that route many times
[21:41] <diddledan> I've even switched between virtual install to physical and back many times
[21:42] <daftykins> :D
[21:42] <daftykins> with much time between each transition?
[21:47] <diddledan> usually the old system had been offline for a while so they may have marked it as idle/dead by the time I installed anew. as to successive switches it's sometimes been as close as a week
[23:07] <daftykins> diddledan: i just decided to benchmark a fair selection of my drives
[23:07] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/p59zslb8e7wy9ms/drives.png
[23:09] <andreas> Hi guys. I have installed ubuntu 14.04 at my Dell Inpiron. However I have huge problem with my wifi. It finds my wifi hotspot
[23:09] <andreas> and connect to that.
[23:09] <daftykins> ok
[23:09] <daftykins> but?
[23:09] <andreas> however, it gets disconnected after a couple of minutes
[23:09] <andreas> and I have no Idea why...
[23:10] <daftykins> were you by any chance asking this very question in #ubuntu just earlier this evening?
[23:10] <andreas> It stays connected only for a few minutes and again disconnected...
[23:10] <andreas> No :)
[23:10] <andreas> I have just opened IRC
[23:10] <daftykins> ok just checking, i thought i saw part of a very similar conversation
[23:11] <daftykins> have you attempted to view logs to see what happens at the point of these disconnections?
[23:12] <andreas> yes, but I am very new to this, and I have no idea what the problem might be...
[23:12] <andreas> Do you want to paste that at pastebin?
[23:13] <andreas> *do you want me to paste this to pastebin?
[23:14] <daftykins> that would definitely be best yeah, probably the kernel log for issues of that kind i think - this is a bit of a grey area for my experience
[23:15] <andreas> ok, thanks, I am doing that now :)
[23:20] <daftykins> andreas: also, do you know what the chipset/card is? a pastebin of "lspci" would be handy, or perhaps just the line from your Dell invoice if it's a new machine
[23:33] <diddledan> o_O I just watched a discovery channel docu which is copyright MCMXV
[23:33] <diddledan> aka 1915
[23:33] <diddledan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV33Q6Nw990
[23:33] <diddledan> it's in colour
[23:34] <diddledan> and it features nuclear submarines
[23:34] <diddledan> methinks someone got the date wrong?
[23:34] <daftykins> lol
[23:34] <daftykins> that would've made for a very different WW1
[23:35] <diddledan> lol
[23:36] <diddledan> ooh, I just noticed boobtube uses ssl by default now?
[23:36] <diddledan> or issit because I'm on a gapps domain user?
[23:37] <daftykins> only one way to confirm, use a nude browser!
[23:38] <diddledan> seems to not use ssl in an icognito window
[23:40] <andreas> hi daftykins. Appologies for the delay, I had some problems. Here's the file https://www.dropbox.com/s/k70crfqdogcuapg/sdf.txt
[23:40] <andreas> and I am uploading the results of the lspci now
[23:42] <daftykins> andreas: no problem, is that an example of the issue right there prior to the frequency table?
[23:42] <daftykins> wlan0: CTRL-EVENT-DISCONNECTED bssid=40:18:b1:74:5d:54 reason=3 locally_generated=1
[23:42] <andreas> daftykins: here is the result of the lspci as well http://tny.cz/40147171
[23:42] <daftykins> ok so we're looking at an intel 2230
[23:43] <diddledan> your dhcp server is set to renew leases every 30 seconds?!
[23:43] <andreas> daftykins, I am sorry, I couldn't understand your question about the frequency table...
[23:43] <daftykins> don't worry
[23:44] <andreas> thanks :)
[23:46] <diddledan> andreas: it might be that your connection is requiring ipv6 but your ipv6 dhcp server isn't responding
[23:46] <daftykins> andreas: and so we're definitely on stock 14.04 64-bit? fully upgraded?
[23:47] <daftykins> andreas: ah, you're stuck on your university's residential wireless service i see? are you in halls? :)
[23:48] <andreas> daftykins: thanks a lot. Yes I use 14.04 fully upgraded
[23:48] <diddledan> oh, did nobody tell the university that .local domain is reserved for avahi/mdns?
[23:49] <andreas> Yes, I use my university's residential wireless service. That's true, I'm staying in halls
[23:49] <diddledan> that might be why avahi is complaining about invalid this and that :-)
[23:49] <daftykins> andreas: ok, that's useful as it means we know we can't reconfigure the other end
[23:49] <diddledan> andreas: hope you do well on your course :-)
[23:50] <daftykins> diddledan: is your IPv6 idea worth a run?
[23:50] <andreas> diddledan: I have no idea about the avahi ...
[23:50] <andreas> diddledan: Yes, thankfully :)
[23:51] <diddledan> andreas: I think avahi is just moaning - I don't think that's the cause of your issue
[23:52] <andreas> diddledan: Thanks. Do you have any clue on what might be the problem?
[23:53] <andreas> diddledan: or what I could try to fix it?
[23:54] <diddledan> I can't actually see it disconnecting alot in the log
[23:54] <diddledan> there's loads of dhcp renews on an already established connection
[23:55] <diddledan> this might be a problem but I don't know why: Jun 15 23:28:33 Oxford NetworkManager[908]: <info> (eth0): DHCPv4 state changed renew -> renew
[23:55] <diddledan> it's going straight from renew state to another renew state instead of accepting the address info
[23:56] <andreas> diddledan: At some point, I had decided to use a wire instead of wireless...So that line maybe the result of this change
[23:57] <diddledan> aah yes, I missed that that line references eth0 not wlan0
[23:57] <andreas> :)
[23:57] <diddledan> wood/trees
[23:57] <daftykins> you know those issues i was having with 14.04's samba the other day?
[23:57] <daftykins> i was missing an = sign in the path definition =|
[23:57] <daftykins> i hadn't run testparm >_<
[23:57] <diddledan> oops
[23:57] <daftykins> my eyes didn't even see it