[08:15] Good morning peeps :) [09:27] morning boys and girls. [12:14] me right now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEmklTvAkbM [12:47] hmm, hadn't looked up the lyrics for 'Super Trouper before - I wonder how the people of Glasgow feel about the line 'I was sick and tired of everything When I called you last night from Glasgow' === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [19:23] hi al [19:26] m00 [19:33] sup [19:47] hello [19:47] mapps: what's new? [19:48] not much [19:48] in czech now [19:48] :D [19:48] :O [19:48] what are you doing in such a random place? [19:48] mapps: Pilsner Urquell comes highly recommended by a mate, though he's not into the kinda drinks i am. Czech beer, though [19:49] I think doesn'texististan is near there, right? [19:49] it is nice daftykins [19:49] but i feel too rough to drink atm tbh [19:49] aah, you've got chequered-belly :-p [19:50] anyone fancy a game of chess? [19:50] hahaha diddledan seeing a friend [19:50] :-p [19:50] i work with [19:50] ;D [19:50] mapps can be the chess-board [19:51] i'm at last taking apart my own laptop [19:51] moo [19:51] feels kinda... weird to be working on my own [19:51] popey: o/ [19:51] because you've no-one else to blame if you find fully-grown dust bunnies in there? [19:52] popey: my sentiments exactly - as evidenced by my own utterance at [20:26:07] [19:52] shauno: i will definitely be blaming my cat [19:52] I'm not sure I'd trust a cat with cleaning the fan vents [19:53] cats are likely to forget the anti-static strap [19:53] or make poor contact with it [19:53] why yes, we all use said straps *whistle* [19:53] I think i may re-install ubuntu on my laptop [19:53] pondering what disk layout to use [19:54] daftykins, howcome youre working [19:54] popey: I'd go for MBR or GPT myself [19:54] :-p [19:54] tsk tsk tsk daftykins [19:54] pondering raid0 [19:54] ooh, pushing the boat out [19:54] mapps: given it being sunday? [19:55] wondering if it actually will make any difference [19:55] you really should. almost all esd damage is really, really subtle. [19:55] just doing what [19:55] popey: across a pair o' SSDs? [19:55] yes [19:56] do recent Linux kernels pass TRIM to members of such a config fine, still? [19:56] yes [19:56] i believe in the Windows world it's been a quirk/challenge with Intel drivers for quite some time [19:56] but there's some evidence that its better to not do that [19:57] but just run a cron job periodically to trim the drives [19:57] interesting [20:08] mapps: SSD upgrade time [20:09] ah [20:09] ha-har, a perfectly clean cooler [20:09] not even a cat living with me has tainted this Asus yet :> [20:37] https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xk74zq82f1f5ivc/AAC9bMkfSRTl-DRJo6DZbdKHa [20:46] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HD5vDs0RBY [20:56] haha [20:57] now the Stig stuff is the part of TG that i *can* handle, since there's no talking ;) [21:00] lol [21:01] thank you Guernsey health benefit card, you make opening my laptop so easy [21:01] :-) === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [21:14] haha, benchmarking this new SSD now [21:14] omw [21:17] that bad? [21:17] that good! [21:17] bah [21:18] 256GB Crucial m4 -> 512GB Crucial MX100 [21:18] ooh, twice as long [21:20] https://www.dropbox.com/s/480wh0a1uh1w50z/Crucial%20upgrade.png [21:21] doubled the top two [21:21] the bottom two are similar or slightly better [21:22] I wonder why the write on 4k went down? [21:23] yeah, not sure [21:23] it's pretty close though [21:23] might be because the operating system is different [21:23] amusingly Crucial's website doesn't even have the MX100 listed on the support pages yet [21:23] ja [21:23] so it's more a platform issue [21:23] at least overall it's a much faster drive [21:24] will i see it of course, is another thing... but meh, twice the size [21:24] £133 delivered for 512GB and that performance is just... mind blowing [21:25] yeah, I tend to be of the opinion with SSD that provided it is "average speed for an ssd" I won't notice much difference between different models - it's the transition from hdd to ssd that I'll notice [21:25] absolutely [21:26] and as you say, space has been the problem with SSD until recently [21:26] finally we're getting decent space for the price [21:26] it's almost worthwhile now for putting things on besides your OS [21:27] I've got a 128G in my desktop - it's too small to do anything with really [21:27] yeah, i could *almost* consider putting my music collection on [21:28] considering the main benefit is for games which need to load large textures and models it's really been a case that you can only have one decent AAA game installed at a time [21:28] consider for example the starwarts online thingy is a 20GB download [21:29] p.s. pew pew [21:34] lol [21:34] knew this would happen [21:34] i accidentally activated my win8.1 upgrade copy once in a VM [21:35] just phone the number [21:35] I've done it many times [21:35] i just had to phone MS and go through the whole system of entering 8 blocks of 6 digits [21:35] yarr [21:35] have you heard their new audible CAPTCHA? :) [21:35] is it meant to be a CAPTCHA? [21:35] hilariously it's asked me to enter "eleven" on both calls i've recently placed, now [21:35] i'd expect so [21:36] or just a way of calibrating? [21:36] calibrating 0o [21:36] e.g. press # twice [21:37] well a guy's voice says "for security purposes please enter the number: " [21:37] yeah, they route all those calls to the US so I would imagine they have to cope with various different country-specific tones [21:37] *nod* [21:37] now for 947MB of updates (round 1) [21:38] I'm not saying you're wrong, and I'm right, just positing an alternative thought - it could be either really [21:38] maybe they have had issues with pirates gaming the phoneline? [21:39] pirates are a pretty inventive lot, so it wouldn't surprise me if they'd found a way of automating activations [21:40] :) yeah, i figured they may've done something [21:40] it was a bit odd that i just had to press 1 to say i had it installed only on 1 computer [21:40] i know that's been true for years, but their records would show two vastly different hardware IDs [21:40] yeah, I've done that route many times [21:41] I've even switched between virtual install to physical and back many times [21:42] :D [21:42] with much time between each transition? [21:47] usually the old system had been offline for a while so they may have marked it as idle/dead by the time I installed anew. as to successive switches it's sometimes been as close as a week [23:07] diddledan: i just decided to benchmark a fair selection of my drives [23:07] https://www.dropbox.com/s/p59zslb8e7wy9ms/drives.png [23:09] Hi guys. I have installed ubuntu 14.04 at my Dell Inpiron. However I have huge problem with my wifi. It finds my wifi hotspot [23:09] and connect to that. [23:09] ok [23:09] but? [23:09] however, it gets disconnected after a couple of minutes [23:09] and I have no Idea why... [23:10] were you by any chance asking this very question in #ubuntu just earlier this evening? [23:10] It stays connected only for a few minutes and again disconnected... [23:10] No :) [23:10] I have just opened IRC [23:10] ok just checking, i thought i saw part of a very similar conversation [23:11] have you attempted to view logs to see what happens at the point of these disconnections? [23:12] yes, but I am very new to this, and I have no idea what the problem might be... [23:12] Do you want to paste that at pastebin? [23:13] *do you want me to paste this to pastebin? [23:14] that would definitely be best yeah, probably the kernel log for issues of that kind i think - this is a bit of a grey area for my experience [23:15] ok, thanks, I am doing that now :) [23:20] andreas: also, do you know what the chipset/card is? a pastebin of "lspci" would be handy, or perhaps just the line from your Dell invoice if it's a new machine [23:33] o_O I just watched a discovery channel docu which is copyright MCMXV [23:33] aka 1915 [23:33] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV33Q6Nw990 [23:33] it's in colour [23:34] and it features nuclear submarines [23:34] methinks someone got the date wrong? [23:34] lol [23:34] that would've made for a very different WW1 [23:35] lol [23:36] ooh, I just noticed boobtube uses ssl by default now? [23:36] or issit because I'm on a gapps domain user? [23:37] only one way to confirm, use a nude browser! [23:38] seems to not use ssl in an icognito window [23:40] hi daftykins. Appologies for the delay, I had some problems. Here's the file https://www.dropbox.com/s/k70crfqdogcuapg/sdf.txt [23:40] and I am uploading the results of the lspci now [23:42] andreas: no problem, is that an example of the issue right there prior to the frequency table? [23:42] wlan0: CTRL-EVENT-DISCONNECTED bssid=40:18:b1:74:5d:54 reason=3 locally_generated=1 [23:42] daftykins: here is the result of the lspci as well http://tny.cz/40147171 [23:42] ok so we're looking at an intel 2230 [23:43] your dhcp server is set to renew leases every 30 seconds?! [23:43] daftykins, I am sorry, I couldn't understand your question about the frequency table... [23:43] don't worry [23:44] thanks :) [23:46] andreas: it might be that your connection is requiring ipv6 but your ipv6 dhcp server isn't responding [23:46] andreas: and so we're definitely on stock 14.04 64-bit? fully upgraded? [23:47] andreas: ah, you're stuck on your university's residential wireless service i see? are you in halls? :) [23:48] daftykins: thanks a lot. Yes I use 14.04 fully upgraded [23:48] oh, did nobody tell the university that .local domain is reserved for avahi/mdns? [23:49] Yes, I use my university's residential wireless service. That's true, I'm staying in halls [23:49] that might be why avahi is complaining about invalid this and that :-) [23:49] andreas: ok, that's useful as it means we know we can't reconfigure the other end [23:49] andreas: hope you do well on your course :-) [23:50] diddledan: is your IPv6 idea worth a run? [23:50] diddledan: I have no idea about the avahi ... [23:50] diddledan: Yes, thankfully :) [23:51] andreas: I think avahi is just moaning - I don't think that's the cause of your issue [23:52] diddledan: Thanks. Do you have any clue on what might be the problem? [23:53] diddledan: or what I could try to fix it? [23:54] I can't actually see it disconnecting alot in the log [23:54] there's loads of dhcp renews on an already established connection [23:55] this might be a problem but I don't know why: Jun 15 23:28:33 Oxford NetworkManager[908]: (eth0): DHCPv4 state changed renew -> renew [23:55] it's going straight from renew state to another renew state instead of accepting the address info [23:56] diddledan: At some point, I had decided to use a wire instead of wireless...So that line maybe the result of this change [23:57] aah yes, I missed that that line references eth0 not wlan0 [23:57] :) [23:57] wood/trees [23:57] you know those issues i was having with 14.04's samba the other day? [23:57] i was missing an = sign in the path definition =| [23:57] i hadn't run testparm >_< [23:57] oops [23:57] my eyes didn't even see it