| brainwash | ochosi: regarding bug 1310264, is the workaround solution ok? should I prepare a branch? | 09:59 |
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| ubottu | bug 1310264 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Can't search/find items in the Settings Manager" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1310264 | 09:59 |
| slickymaster | elfy: https://code.launchpad.net/~elfy/ubuntu-manual-tests/bugfixes1306/+merge/223117 <- on it | 16:43 |
| slickymaster | elfy, https://code.launchpad.net/~elfy/ubuntu-manual-tests/bugfixes1306/+merge/223117 <- done | 17:06 |
| elfy | slickymaster: thanks :) | 17:12 |
| slickymaster | np elfy | 17:14 |
| * slickymaster goes back to the Equator - Switzerland match | 17:14 | |
| knome | slickymaster, it's ecuador :P | 17:45 |
| elfy | and they are losing ... | 17:51 |
| slickymaster | your sure knome ? | 17:52 |
| elfy | I am sure too slickymaster :) | 17:52 |
| slickymaster | ok | 17:53 |
| slickymaster | I stand corrected | 17:53 |
| elfy | you can sit down - it's fine :) | 17:53 |
| slickymaster | lol | 17:53 |
| knome | slickymaster, yeap :P | 17:55 |
| ochosi | brainwash: yeah, please prepare a branch if you can! thanks | 19:41 |
| brainwash | ochosi: so, it's ok to bring the settings category back? it will be visible in the whisker and classic app menu | 19:42 |
| ochosi | i don't mind if it's visible in whisker | 19:42 |
| ochosi | the regression in the classic app menu is okayish i think | 19:42 |
| ochosi | if people complain, we can try to supply yet another menu file that those using the classic menu can use then | 19:43 |
| brainwash | right, I don't think that anyone will complain about it | 19:43 |
| ochosi | me neither | 19:43 |
| ochosi | after all, we've had it like that for quite a while actually | 19:43 |
| ochosi | before the settings manager became searchable | 19:43 |
| brainwash | ok | 19:44 |
| Unit193 | Hmm, regression in classic? | 19:50 |
| ochosi | Unit193: well, "regression" | 19:52 |
| ochosi | first of all, ppl have to manually change the setup to get the classic menu | 19:52 |
| Unit193 | Oh, the settings menu, yeah that's just a different default, no big thing. | 19:52 |
| ochosi | second, it's only that the settings category is back, but the settings manager will still be the first menu | 19:52 |
| ochosi | -item | 19:53 |
| elfy | I'll be glad to see gparted back in my menu :p | 20:02 |
| ochosi | yeah, i think making whisker access as many apps as possible is ideal | 20:03 |
| elfy | yep | 20:04 |
| elfy | ochosi: you got any idea yet when's best for meeting next week? | 20:04 |
| brainwash | ochosi: damn this AppData stuff =S | 21:08 |
| brainwash | the Xfce project got bigger problems apparently :/ | 21:08 |
| brainwash | doesn't the ubuntu software center provide screenshots and maybe metadata for some Xfce applications? | 21:10 |
| brainwash | could be reused | 21:10 |
| ochosi | brainwash: what's your problem exactly with appdata and why are you pinging me about it? | 21:11 |
| ochosi | (and why in this channel) | 21:11 |
| Unit193 | They still seem like a pointless/stupid Gnome thing to me.. | 21:15 |
| brainwash | this channel, because we also need to care about the ubuntu software center | 21:16 |
| bluesabre | Does AppData apply to USC? | 21:16 |
| brainwash | maybe reuse the screenshots | 21:16 |
| bluesabre | USC gets its data from the debian package/screenshot database | 21:16 |
| brainwash | screenshot database? | 21:17 |
| brainwash | so, would these existing screenshots be of any help for creating the appdata? | 21:19 |
| bluesabre | https://screenshots.debian.net/ | 21:21 |
| bluesabre | probably not, from what I understand they want a specific aspect ratio for screenshots | 21:21 |
| bluesabre | that's definitely an ochosi question though ;) | 21:21 |
| brainwash | and most likely some consistency too, like same gtk and icon theme | 21:22 |
| brainwash | would at least help | 21:23 |
| ochosi | well it would help | 21:23 |
| ochosi | but the fundamental difference is that appdata is supposed to be distro-unspecific | 21:24 |
| ochosi | which could also be considered a disadvantage or advantage, depending on your viewpoint | 21:24 |
| ochosi | so yeah, consistency and all, but in general appdata is something that xfce has to take care about | 21:25 |
| ochosi | usc is something xubuntu related | 21:25 |
| ochosi | so imo that's quite clear | 21:25 |
| ochosi | even if we decide to replace USC with some gnome app center or another thing that uses appdata in xubuntu, it'll still be up to xfce to supply appdata | 21:25 |
| brainwash | so I was thinking of combining the efforts, simply use the screenshots for appdata (xfce) and usc (debian/ubuntu) | 21:29 |
| ochosi | hm yeah, well you can always submit the screenshots from appdata to usc or debian's database | 21:31 |
| ochosi | but frankly i hope that they will somewhat automate that | 21:31 |
| ochosi | the other way round may suck, because appdata wants 16:10 screenshots and i don't think debian has any restrictions/recommendations (at least i can't remember right now) | 21:31 |
| brainwash | alright | 21:34 |
| ochosi | sometimes i wonder whether we can't use some of mint's tools... http://www.linuxmint.com/pictures/screenshots/qiana/mintlocale.png | 21:37 |
| bluesabre | well, we can always implement them ourselves ;) | 21:44 |
| bluesabre | mint uses xfce for one of their spins, so it would mean less for them to maintain ;) | 21:44 |
| ochosi | that is taken from the xfce spin actually | 21:50 |
| ochosi | they just released it | 21:50 |
| ochosi | i mean they released the RC: http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2649 | 21:51 |
| ochosi | and that language tool looks much nicer than ours | 21:51 |
| ochosi | obviously we'd have to test it and see whether it works fine | 21:51 |
| brainwash | oh, they still use xfce 4.10 | 21:57 |
| brainwash | is this even true? | 21:58 |
| ochosi | no | 22:01 |
| ochosi | they obviously use xfdesktop 4.11 | 22:01 |
| ochosi | unless their screenshots are "too new" :p | 22:01 |
| brainwash | I think so too | 22:03 |
| brainwash | "Good that you resisted the temptation to use Xfce 4.11 development release." | 22:03 |
| brainwash | so this comment is wrong then | 22:03 |
| ochosi | i guess so, frankly, i haven't dealt with mint a lot so far | 22:04 |
| brainwash | I haven't tested it yet, but I will | 22:05 |
| ochosi | great, looking forward to hearing about it | 22:05 |
| ochosi | also wonder what user management tool they use | 22:06 |
| ochosi | maybe there's more we can borrow | 22:06 |
| brainwash | and I'm curious about their display manager mdm + html5 greeter | 22:07 |
| ochosi | yeah | 22:07 |
| brainwash | maybe we could even cooperate with them to fix problems with the current LTS release | 22:08 |
| ochosi | why not, some things will hit them too | 22:08 |
| brainwash | how do they track bugs? :) | 22:08 |
| ochosi | i have no idea | 22:09 |
| Noskcaj | +1 to trying to work with mint | 22:09 |
| Unit193 | Meh, mint. | 22:09 |
| Noskcaj | their bugs are in LP | 22:09 |
| brainwash | I haven't seen many mint reports there | 22:10 |
| Noskcaj | https://bugs.launchpad.net/linuxmint | 22:11 |
| brainwash | almost nothing related to Xfce :P | 22:11 |
| Noskcaj | bug 1271866 | 22:12 |
| ubottu | bug 1271866 in Linux Mint "Xfce edition lacks graphical tool for adding user accounts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1271866 | 22:12 |
| Noskcaj | they've got a few | 22:13 |
| brainwash | oh, this particular one is odd | 22:13 |
| brainwash | they don't ship a gui tool for account management | 22:14 |
| Noskcaj | Most of the issues seem to be default config related like that one | 22:14 |
| brainwash | but it's strange that there is no contact to the mint guys | 22:17 |
| brainwash | or active communication | 22:17 |
| brainwash | because we share a lot of problems and bugs I'd think | 22:18 |
| ochosi | yup | 22:20 |
| ochosi | i'm open to cooperation | 22:20 |
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