[01:28] <levjamin> Hello, so I have an issue that may need to be fixed. Whenever I turn on my computer during the boot screen after I unlock my hard drive (it's encrypted) and while it's loading it says "The disk drive for /drv/mapper/xubuntu--vg-swap_1 is not ready or not present. Continue to wait, or press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery." Any advice?
[01:57] <holstein> levjamin: i just wait on that message..
[02:14] <acalbaza> upgraded from 13.10 to 14.04 and now i have an issue with grub... why is this?
[02:14] <holstein> acalbaza: not sure.. is your question, how to fix grub?
[02:14] <holstein> !grub
[02:15] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[02:17] <acalbaza> holstein: not really... i'm just wondering why the error popped up.  i see the reported bug against 14.04 but i don't understand the cause.  just curious.
[02:17] <holstein> acalbaza: why what error "popped up" where? when?
[02:17] <holstein> acalbaza: what bug?
[02:18] <acalbaza> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1289977
[02:19] <holstein> acalbaza: and the question is "why' ?
[02:19] <holstein> !contribut
[02:19] <holstein> !contribute
[02:19] <holstein> acalbaza: feel free and get involved in testing on any level or volunteer developement...
[02:20] <acalbaza> yes, the question is why
[02:20] <holstein> acalbaza: thinkg break, friend
[02:21] <holstein> acalbaza: i mean, is the goal to locate the individual volunteer responsible? are you interested in paying them to give it more attention? or complain?
[02:22] <acalbaza> ehh.  none of the above... i'm curious as to the cause.  nothing more.
[02:22] <holstein> acalbaza: im sure there are details at the bug report
[02:23] <holstein> i mean.. things break.. have you never enountered a bug before?
[02:23] <acalbaza> holstein: yup.  i have.
[02:23] <holstein> acalbaza: why did they happen?
[02:25] <acalbaza> i'm puzzled why you find it odd that i'm asking to find out more detail about something.
[02:26] <holstein> acalbaza: sorry to puzzle you.. i dont mean to make you find it odd.. its not more detail about "something".. its seems specifically that you are wondering why that bug exists...
[02:27] <holstein> acalbaza: im sure im just reading too much into it.. feel free and use the #ubuntu main suppot channel, since this is likely a grub related thing that is not specific to xubuntu
[02:28] <acalbaza> i think you are
[02:28] <holstein> maybe someone in trhe main channel,or grub community will be able to tell you why that bug exists
[02:29] <acalbaza> and you're right, its not really specific to xubuntu.  just a bump on the upgrade path.
[02:29] <acalbaza> ya, maybe someone can.
[02:30] <holstein> just not sure what the goal is..
[02:31] <acalbaza> its okay if you dont understand.
[02:31] <holstein> acalbaza: feel free and elaborate
[02:32] <acalbaza> no.  i've stated my question clearly enough.  no further elaboration is necessary.
[02:33] <holstein> acalbaza: im specifically questioning the clarity, friend. but, we can let it go.. you can look elsewhere for the answer
[02:37] <holstein> acalbaza: in reference to your quesiton in #ubuntu, i have seen those messages when my config file was specifiying something grub didnt support
[02:38] <slitt> Is there a problem with xubuntu.org? It downloads like dialup.
[02:39] <holstein> slitt: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/xubuntu.org states its down
[02:40] <slitt> thanks holstein. Now I don't feel so bad. Interestlingly, ubuntu.com is downt to.
[04:37] <vrkalak> ... hold-on (running Diagnostic)
[09:14] <Aiena> Hi I used the xubuntu minimal install dbvd and selected xfce from the list
[09:14] <Aiena> however when I rebooted it booted into tty
[09:14] <Aiena> it appears xfce was not instaled even though I selected xubuntu
[09:14] <Aiena> is that normal ?
[09:18] <Aiena> hmm problerm solved
[09:18] <Aiena> I needed to install the pattern xubuntu-desktop
[09:42] <Aiena> hmm weird I get 24 kbps for the gnome packages only when pulling
[10:21] <egsome> Sometimes after unlocking the screen I get my Keyboard not working, So I do lock and unlock again it comes back working .. Anybody face the same problem ?
[10:22] <Aiena> hmm not experienced it
[10:29] <egsome> Aiena, I use USB Keyboard, But it doesn't happen to my USB Mouse.
[10:31] <Aiena> oops sorry this is the xubuntu channel
[10:31] <Aiena> hmm egsome not sure about xubuntu
[10:31] <Aiena> brb
[10:31] <egsome> Aiena, OK
[10:43] <nikolam> and indicator plugin in 14.04 dies. (anzone knows another system tray for displaying network manager in xfce?)
[12:38] <alanford> hi guys
[12:38] <alanford> I need some help with xubuntu
[12:38] <alanford> anyone willing to hear me out?
[12:38] <cfhowlett> !ask|alanford
[12:39] <alanford> ok .. I installed ubuntu 14.04 and then I switched to xubuntu
[12:39] <cfhowlett> alanford so you installed xubuntu?
[12:39] <alanford> with the command sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[12:39] <alanford> yeah.. and now I dont get the whisker menu
[12:39] <cfhowlett> alanford got it ...
[12:39] <alanford> and I have the launcher on the bottom
[12:40] <alanford> it seems like its an older version of xubuntu
[12:40] <cfhowlett> alanford logout.  choose xubuntu session.  login
[12:40] <alanford> or am I missing something
[12:40] <alanford> I did
[12:40] <alanford> even restarted
[12:41] <alanford> i uninstalled all the ubuntu packages
[12:41] <alanford> does this mean I have to  do a clean install to get the latest xubuntu goodies?
[12:41] <cfhowlett> alanford shouldn't be necessary but ...
[12:41] <cfhowlett> alanford install xubuntu-desktop again then run dist-upgrade
[12:42] <alanford> ok ... will try .. is it sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:42] <alanford> ?
[12:42] <brainwash> remove ~/.config/xfce4 and relog
[13:18] <zbrkxbr> finally I can stop the jumping one distro to another. Xubuntu beats all of'em.
[13:34] <random99> Hi!
[13:34] <random99> I'm trying to update Xubuntu
[13:34] <random99> but I get an error message saying that /boot is full and that I should run apt-get clean
[13:35] <random99> but this does not change anything
[13:35] <random99> what am I supposed to do?
[13:36] <knome> random99, what does 'df -h /boot' on terminal say?
[13:37] <random99> Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[13:37] <random99>  /dev/sda2       237M  172M   53M  77% /boot
[13:38] <cfhowlett> random99 sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get purge && sudo apt-get autoremove                might help.  beyond that, I'd bet removing some outdated kernels would help
[13:39] <random99> that command didn't make a change
[13:39] <random99> how do I remove old kernels?
[13:39] <random99> (and why does Xubunto keep old kernels around?!)
[13:40] <knome> random99, because if the latest one makes your system unbootable, you are able to boot the older one
[13:40] <cfhowlett> random99 best practice is to keep at least one old kernel on board - just in case
[13:40] <random99> it seems that Xubuntu doesn't delete any kernels
[13:40] <random99> okay
[13:40] <random99> how do  I delete them?
[13:40] <cfhowlett> random99 NO ubuntu deletes kernels
[13:41] <random99> but other distros do?
[13:41] <cfhowlett> !kernel
[13:42] <random99> how do I find out which kernel I run?
[13:44] <cfhowlett> random99 http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/debian-redhat-linux-delete-kernel-command/
[13:46] <random99> if /boot tends to overflow with old kernels, why isn't that partion much larger by default?
[13:46] <random99> this seems to be a huge oversight of ubuntu/xubuntu
[13:47] <knome> random99, the default installation does not create a separate /boot partition
[13:47] <cfhowlett> random99 ^^^ this
[13:48] <random99> why doesn't it?
[13:48] <random99> not to sound ungrateful, but it's pretty damning that I have to waste time on things that should be automated
[13:49] <cfhowlett> random99 "with great power ..."
[13:50] <knome> random99, why doesn't it create a separate /boot partition by default? because there's no reason to, and if it created one, you'd "waste" space?
[13:50] <random99> well,a good reason would be that the user did not have to regularly spend time cleaning out /boot
[13:50] <elfy> who has a /boot partition?
[13:51] <elfy> I don't
[13:51] <random99> nice, and now I ran into a bug that doesn't allowt he software update image to be displayed
[13:51] <random99> i'm off to using a different distro
[13:51] <random99> this is a joke
[13:51] <knome> have fun
[13:51] <elfy> cya
[13:53] <knome> why be so hostile; he was getting help, and to be honest, the problems were caused by something he did
[13:54] <cfhowlett> knome some people just "want it to work" ..
[13:54] <cfhowlett> knome understandable.
[13:55] <knome> so do i, but if i create a non-standard installation, i acknowledge my actions might be the cause for it "not just working", and i won't blame the development team for my choices
[13:57] <cfhowlett> knome yes, but you (and I) are in the minority of potential users.  most turn on, expect it to fly and if it doesn't, they want instant repairs that are wholly unimpeded by the thought process
[13:57] <knome> cfhowlett, that doesn't warrant hostile attitude against people who voluntarily give support.
[13:57] <knome> nothing does.
[13:58] <cfhowlett> knome I don't take it personally - although I do miss the /ignore functionality
[13:59] <knome> i don't take it personally either, but that does still not warrant hostile attitude.
[14:00] <cfhowlett> knome "Forget it knome.  It's internetz."
[15:15] <xubuntu361> wow. FF while installing. Cool.
[15:15] <knome> xubuntu361, enjoy. do you have a support question?
[15:16] <xubuntu361> Not yet. Everithing looks fine
[15:16] <xubuntu361> Thank you
[15:28] <xubuntu641> bonjour
[16:09] <xubuntu531> open jar file
[16:16] <SamSol> Why xubuntu is dying?
[16:16] <SamSol> It is clean new system
[16:17] <SamSol> is it mlocate makes it completelly unusable?
[16:19] <SamSol> Hmmm... turnign off indicator plugin turns off xchat!!!
[16:19] <SamSol> WTF?!
[16:22] <knome> SamSol, please watch the language, and remember we are all volunteers here
[16:23] <SamSol> sorry
[16:30] <SamSol> Where is "Software Updater"?
[16:31] <SamSol> In "Ubuntu Software Center" i see it is installed. But i can't find it in "start menu"
[16:36] <MisterAcacia> SamSol: Look in Settings, under System
[16:38] <SamSol> Thank you. It is not in "Start->System->Settings" (i have no such item in System). It is "Start->[fancy button with 'All Settings' tooltip]"
[16:38] <SamSol> stunning!
[16:41] <madlybad> hy
[16:41] <MisterAcacia> SamSol: I didn't mean to imply the Settings menu, but it sounds like you found it
[16:42] <SamSol> Does anybody know why mlocate ride over my HDD every morning? Why it scratch my HDD half of hour?
[16:42] <SamSol> Yep, MisterAcacia, you pointed me in right direction.
[16:45] <ARM9> software updater glitching out HARD
[16:45] <bekks> that means?
[16:45] <ARM9> constant 25% cpu usage, completely frozen
[16:45] <ARM9> seems to be hogging net trafic as well
[16:46] <bekks> And what did you do before?
[16:46] <ARM9> booted up my system
[16:46] <ARM9> soon as software updater popped up I unchecked some pidgin crap that you can't opt out of apparently (comes up every time I start the system)
[16:46] <ARM9> and then it started freezing
[16:47] <ARM9> unplugging my second monitor seemed to fix it(?)
[16:49] <SamSol> i found that it is 'locate' also available in repository. Trying to remove mlocate and install locate.
[16:55] <fede> ho impostato come schermo principale la tv collegata tramite vga....solo che lo schermo diventa nero e non posso fare più nulla. mi hanno fatto riavviare in modalità di ripristino ma mi sono bloccato lì
[16:56] <bazhang> !it
[17:00] <fede> sorry. I've choose as principal monitor my tv linked by vga cable.but the screen became black!!! how I return to the principal monitor??
[17:09] <WebDawg> I have xubuntu installed on a desktop.  How can I disable power management.
[17:09] <WebDawg> ?
[17:09] <WebDawg> Auto locking the screen.
[17:09] <WebDawg> Etc.
[17:10] <ARM9> main menu -> all settings (it's the icon on the left at the bottom, a bit questionable placement imo)
[17:10] <ARM9> then power manager
[17:13] <WebDawg> That does not work.
[17:13] <WebDawg> At all.  System still blanks every twenty mins.  Still hibernates.
[17:14] <WebDawg> You think a DPMS script would work better?
[17:42] <SamSol> Where is sound icon in tray bar?
[17:43] <SamSol> How to OFF black tooltips?
[17:49] <BBLLCC> hi
[17:49] <BBLLCC> i just created an account with jitsi and xmpp, id like to test it, any volunteer to send me his/her username?
[17:49] <BBLLCC> with this I can also talk to people who only have skype, right?
[17:50] <SamSol> ssoldatenko@jabber.ru
[17:50] <SamSol> oops. I have no skipe. Jabber/XMPP only
[17:50] <bekks> BBLLCC: No, Skype requires the proprietary skype software.
[17:50] <BBLLCC> ok, no biggie
[17:51] <BBLLCC> ok, and how do I talk to ssoldatenko?
[18:04] <BBLLCC> cool
[18:04] <BBLLCC> geil
[18:04] <BBLLCC> it works
[18:47] <BBLLCC> what protocols are jitsi compatible?
[18:47] <bekks> BBLLCC: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jitsi#Supported_protocols
[18:48] <hylian> man xubuntu rocks. as of 14.04 it's been solid as gebraltar.
[18:48] <BBLLCC> is gebraltar really an OS?
[18:49] <BBLLCC> or you mean gibraltar?
[18:49] <bekks> How is that related to Ubuntu?
[18:53] <hylian> BBLLCC: I meant, as in "solid as the rock of gibraltar"
[18:53] <BBLLCC> cool, i didnt know that expression was still in use
[18:53] <BBLLCC> is*
[18:54] <hylian> BBLLCC: I'm an old duck.
[18:55] <BBLLCC> i assume you are british...
[18:56] <hylian> BBLLCC: Actually, I am from the states, wisconsin to be exact.
[18:56] <BBLLCC> reading some history books lately?
[18:57] <deshipu> may I recommend the #xubuntu-offtopic chat for the random chat? :)
[18:57] <hylian> BBLLCC: yes, I love history, but not lately. I read up on calpe some time in the early 90's.
[19:01] <hylian> has anyone else had issue with xchat jumping the gun on sending the password to freenode, causing freenode to ask for said password?
[19:07] <hylian> good bye all
[19:36] <daviator> hello
[19:36] <daviator> i need some help
[19:38] <daviator> i want to look at partions i already have on my disc
[19:38] <daviator> how can i do that?
[19:40] <deshipu> with gparted
[19:43] <daviator> thanks
[19:44] <daviator> but i cannot find it
[19:47] <David-A> daviator: you have to install gparted. use the software center (or synaptic or apt-get or what you like the most)
[19:47] <bazhang> !crosspost | daviator
[19:48] <David-A> daviator: by "look at partitions" do you mean get an overview of the partitions, their size and type, and/or change them, or do you mean open the file system in the partition to look at the files?
[19:49] <David-A> daviator: to open a partition (mount it) you do not need gparted or any special program.
[19:49] <daviator> oh.. i`am sorry
[19:51] <daviator> its a bad habit to write in different chats at ones :) i`am really sorry for that
[19:51] <daviator> so, i have installed gparted
[19:51] <daviator> thanks for help :) it was really useful
[19:53] <daviator> about partions. i want to look how much of memory used for swap, home and other partions
[19:53] <daviator> just for interest
[19:56] <daviator> when i was installing xubuntu, in the install menu i choosed other, then i saw a table with partions, when i tried to place "/" with 10GB, "/swap" - 6GB, "/home" - 89GB
[19:56] <daviator> but i cannot to do that
[19:58] <daviator> because after i set "/swap" with 6GB (5-th in the list), i cannot to set other free memory for other parts
[19:58] <daviator> then i quit from that menu, and choosed "Install xubuntu with windows"
[19:59] <daviator> thats all
[20:00] <David-A> daviator: you can use "sudo fdisk -l" just to see what you have. but gparted is more user friendly.
[20:02] <David-A> daviator: too see the amount of swap space, you can use "swapon -s"
[20:03] <daviator> i have wrote that command but terminal said that this command not found
[20:04] <David-A> daviator: then use gparted (fdisk is in package util-linux, don't know if that is installed by default)
[20:05] <daviator> i`am new in linux
[20:10] <David-A> daviator: are you confused by words like "package", "application", "program", and "app"? (they are all the same thing)
[20:10] <David-A> (well, more or less)
[20:12] <daviator> i understands them :) alittle ...
[20:13] <David-A> daviator: so, I suppose you have gparted up, and can see how the disk is partitioned
[20:14] <daviator> yes
[20:14] <David-A> daviator: next question, I suppose, is, do you like what you see?
[20:16] <daviator> i think yes, but i want to make my swap a bit bigger then 2,69 GB
[20:16] <daviator> maybe 6 GB
[20:16] <daviator> how can i do that?
[20:16] <David-A> daviator: is this a laptop or desktop? how much ram?
[20:16] <daviator> laptop, 3GB RAM
[20:19] <David-A> daviator: for normal use, you would need very little swap, about 1GB. for suspend mode (sleep) you would need swap about the same as ram.
[20:19] <daviator> oh... so 2.69 Gb RAM is enough?
[20:20] <daviator> sorry 2.69 Gb swap is enough?
[20:20] <bekks> daviator: 3.1 is enough.
[20:21] <David-A> daviator: it depends. it is a little smaller than ram. I think it can sleep in a swap smaller than ram if ram was not fully utilized, but to be sure, it may not be enough. for sleep that is.
[20:21] <daviator> how can i release 400 MB for swap through gparted?
[20:23] <David-A> daviator: to increase the size of the swap partition, you may need to decrease the size of the partition before or after it (unless there already is free space there)
[20:24] <David-A> daviator: or if there is free space somewhere else on the disk (not occupied by a used partition), you can add an additional swap area there.
[20:24] <daviator> i have no free space
[20:24] <daviator> i have to paralell working OS`s
[20:25] <daviator> i have to paralell working 2 OS`s
[20:25] <David-A> daviator: dual boot
[20:25] <daviator> no no :)
[20:25] <David-A> ?
[20:26] <daviator> i mean that i have two OS`s installed on one HDD but working on one of them
[20:26] <daviator> and there no free space for swap
[20:27] <David-A> daviator: you have 2 os installed on one hdd, and select which one to boot when you power up?
[20:27] <daviator> yes
[20:27] <David-A> daviator: I know that as "dual boot"
[20:27] <daviator> oh.. sorry i didnt know
[20:29] <David-A> daviator: if you need to increase swap, and therefor decrease size of another partition, we could give better advice if we know how the disk is currently partitioned.
[20:31] <daviator> Windows: pt1:35Gb,pt2:100Gb. Linux: pt3: 95GB, pt4:2.69
[20:31] <David-A> daviator: but first. have you tested if suspend works when running xubuntu on your laptop? (that it can go to sleep and then wake up again)
[20:31] <daviator> ok i`ll try
[20:32] <daviator> give me a minute
[20:39] <David-A> (expecting reestablished contact with daviator within five minutes)
[20:43] <David-A> (still waiting for a signal from daviator. we do not want this ship to be lost)
[20:45] <David-A> \o/  daviator is back!
[20:45] <David-A> what's the verdict?
[20:45] <daviator> it don`t want to go asleep
[20:46] <David-A> :(
[20:46] <daviator> :(
[20:46] <daviator> T_T
[20:47] <daviator> ok
[20:47] <daviator> thanks for a biggest help :)
[20:47] <David-A> daviator: does it say why it doesn't want to?
[20:47] <daviator> no
[20:48] <daviator> just an error with "cannot turn to sleep mode"
[20:48] <daviator> smth like that :)
[20:48] <daviator> i am lucky
[20:49] <David-A> daviator: a-ha, positive thinking :)
[20:49] <daviator> yeap
[20:49] <daviator> :)
[20:50] <daviator> all ukrainians like that
[20:50] <David-A> daviator: you should try find out why it really does not want to. and fix that. it might be something else than the size of swap. but we don't know now.
[20:51] <daviator> it cant leaved without a hand on it :)
[20:52] <daviator> i think that i`ll handle it
[20:52] <daviator> (with your help offcourse) :)
[20:52] <David-A> daviator: anyway, you should find out before trying to change partition sizes.
[20:52] <daviator> ok
[20:52] <daviator> but i so tiered
[20:54] <daviator> can we talk tomorrow at the same time?
[20:54] <David-A> daviator: yea, don't do important system maintenance while tired. watch a film and then go to sleep.
[20:55] <daviator> ok. and a big big thanks for so much help
[20:55] <daviator> :)
[20:55] <David-A> daviator: I am not here every day. but you'll find someone
[20:56] <daviator> ok thanks
[20:57] <daviator> good night
[21:58] <kostex> hi there.. I did something stupid? maybe it's nothing, maybe it is.. I'm new to linux..   I've downloaded an application which stated I need libstdc++.so.6   so I went about and apt-get installed libstdc++  My Ubuntu Studio 14.04 went haywire and left me with a message: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages... I did not do anything afterwards.. Is there a quick fix?
[21:59] <luisja1006> Hello! I am having some problems with wifi in my xubuntu. The system connects to the belking wifi router, but I have to constantly reconnect to get internet connection. Could someone give me a helping hand?
[22:15] <David-A> kostex: (I dont know what the problem is but...) try look in the history logs in /var/log/apt/ if the install did uninstall something because of conflicting dependencies.
[22:21] <luisja1006> David-A lspci shows: http://pastebin.com/N1ThfArf
[22:21] <luisja1006> kubuntu 14.04