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apacheloggeranyone feels like helping sandsmark out on the mailing list?07:27
apacheloggerRiddell maybe?07:27
valoriegood morning apachelogger07:37
valoriedid you have a good weekend?07:37
apacheloggervalorie: yeah, it's not like I was well rested though ^^07:53
apacheloggervalorie: I trust you had a nice weekend as well?07:53
Riddellapachelogger: what mailing list? (not read e-mail yet)08:18
Riddellapachelogger: nope don't see it08:23
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apacheloggerRiddell: http://markmail.org/thread/qv47vf3mugnuqn5708:56
Riddellapachelogger: oh yes, will investigate09:14
BluesKaj'Morning folks09:31
soeehi BluesKaj10:00
BluesKajhey soee10:00
soeeRiddell: when you find 2 free minnutes, please ping me, i have a question @ installing plasma-next10:48
Riddellping soee 10:49
soeeRiddell: besides plasma-next ppa i need to add some other (from the dependency list) ?10:50
Riddellsudo apt-add-repository ppa:ci-train-ppa-service/landing-00510:50
Riddellthat one10:50
soeeok, let me check :)10:51
apacheloggerRiddell: I thought that was copied?10:53
soeeRiddell: can you take a look http://paste.ubuntu.com/7652465/ ?10:53
Riddellapachelogger: not quite successfully last I heard10:55
Riddellsoee: looks non-dangerous10:55
soeeRiddell: what about plasma-desktop that is kept back ?10:57
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Riddellsoee: yes you'll probably need to install that explicitly11:01
Riddelldoing that after a dist-upgrade would be wise11:01
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soeean error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7652501/11:07
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soeeok fixed that one, by runnign first  apt-get -f install (configured packages)11:16
soeeand than sudo dpkg --install --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/powerdevil_4%3a4.97.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa1_amd64.deb11:16
soeestill the plasma-desktop is kept back11:17
soeeRiddell: if i try to install plasma-desktop now i think it wants to isntall old packages: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7652539/11:18
yofellooks like new packages11:19
Riddellsoee: yep that's all new and shiny11:20
soeeand the one lmarked to remove are fine ?11:20
Riddellyep all expected11:21
soeeod installing than :)11:21
apacheloggerRiddell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/133044511:22
ubottuUbuntu bug 1330445 in Kubuntu PPA "KDE 4.13.2 for precise" [Undecided,New]11:22
soeeone more error http://paste.ubuntu.com/7652571/11:25
soeefil try the same steps as before11:25
soeeups this one it is a bit different11:26
soeeok can i remove this 2: libqt5positioning5 libqt5sensors5 ?11:27
Riddellhmm I thought I'd fixed that klipper error but maybe not11:32
Riddellsoee: dunno, is it wanting to remove them?11:32
soeeRiddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7652605/11:33
soeeok ill try to reboot, hope i return :)11:35
yofelyou can trust apt when it says they're not longer required11:35
yofelusually ^^11:36
soee_;]11:37
soee_yay!11:38
soee_it works :D11:38
sgclarkyay11:40
soee_the current version dos not have new lightdm style ?11:40
Riddellnope11:51
apacheloggerthere is no lightdm style11:52
soee_ok, the shortcuts also dont work ?11:53
apacheloggerRiddell: ^ missing dep on kglobalaccel?11:53
Riddellplasma-workspace: /usr/bin/kglobalaccel511:55
Riddellshould be included in the same package11:56
Riddellsoee_: but everything else works?11:56
soee_Riddell: more or less :) im not sure what should work and what not :) I can't load task manager settings, my wallpapers is gone and have only bclack screen 11:57
soee_but the missing wallpaper might be related to compositor settings11:57
apacheloggerRiddell: random other reason: if qt didn't find xkbcommon during build it will build with an internal copy that is insanely old11:59
apacheloggergoing to guess it's not that11:59
apacheloggersoee_: is kglobalacceel5 running11:59
apacheloggersoee_: also what exactly do you mean by shortcuts12:00
soee_apachelogger: the libglobalaccel should be listed in system monitor ?12:00
apacheloggeryes, kglobalaccel, no lib :P12:00
soee_yes it is, i cant use ALT+F2, activity switch shortcut so the common i use :) 12:01
soee_ill check if they are not removed12:01
apacheloggerkrunner has a bug in the beta12:01
apacheloggeropen kickoff12:01
apacheloggertype something12:02
apacheloggerthe search should appear 12:02
apacheloggertry to copy and paste in the search field there12:02
apacheloggerif that is working it definitely isn't qt12:02
apachelogger(isn't a problem in qt I should say)12:02
sgclarkI don't seem to have a right click menu to change wallpaper12:03
soee_apachelogger: i can type search text etc12:04
soee_but have not results :)12:04
apacheloggersoee_: and kglobalaccel is not listed in ksysguard?12:04
soee_apachelogger: kglobalaccel5 is listed in system monitor'12:05
apacheloggerprobably krunner specific then12:05
apacheloggeralso I am not sure activities switching had shortcuts in the beta12:05
soeeif i try to run krunner from terminal: "Unexpected reply signature: got "no signature", expected "i" (int)"12:06
apacheloggerthat sounds wrong12:06
apacheloggerkillall -9 krunner12:06
apacheloggerthen try again12:06
apacheloggeractually12:06
apacheloggersoee: I think something on your system was not upraded12:06
apacheloggerthat output sounds a lot like incompatibility in the dbus interfaces12:06
soee:/12:07
soeeok shorcutts like ALT+SHIFT+F12 work12:08
soeeis there some cmd to restart plasma ?12:09
soee_where are stored kde settings now >12:16
yofelxdg dirs (.e.g ~/.config/... )12:18
soee_someone can confirm that context menu when clicking on desktop does not work ?12:21
sgclarkI can confirm that it does not work for me either12:21
soee_also taskmanaer or systry settings windows load only widnow frame without content12:23
sgclarkdesktop effects was empty yeaah, not all of them though12:25
soee_can i open desktop settings window from terminal ?12:25
Riddellsoee_: missing wallpaper is upstream issue, I fixed upstream but not in packages12:28
soee_Riddell: this is more related to compositor, for example if i turn off desktop effects i can se the default one12:28
sgclarkRiddell: how did you change your wallpaper? :) this one is sooo last year12:29
Riddellnew on is here https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/workspace/breeze/repository/revisions/master/changes/wallpapers/Next/contents/images/1920x1080.png12:30
Riddellclick download12:30
sgclarkty12:31
soee_sgclark: can you change wallpeper without access to desktop properties ?12:34
sgclarkI seem to have broke mine altogether, will answer when I get it going again. I think this laptop may not be able to handle vm12:38
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soee_dolphins shows kde version as 4.13.1 its fine ?12:53
sgclarksoee_ I will be packaging latest dolphin. was messing about with shiny new kf5, but I broke it, only have black sccreen, not sure what I did12:55
soee_:)12:55
soee_sgclark: but im asking about KDE version in unicorn12:56
soee_its 4.13.1 ?12:56
yofelsoee_: 4.13.X where X is somewhere between 0 and 212:59
soee_yofel: yup it shows 4.13.1 here12:59
soee_the plasma-next avaialble in ppa is beta2 right ?13:01
shadeslayerMamarok: congrats on becoming part of Kubuntu Council :D13:04
ScottKagain (IIRC)13:05
shadeslayer:)13:06
soee_how can i reste all desktop settings in plasma-next (laso panel etc.)13:13
Riddellsoee_: rm ~/.config/plasma*13:14
Mamarokoh, I was elected? Thank you :)13:21
Riddellyou have the power!13:21
Riddelluse it wisely13:21
Mamarokdidn't expect it, there was a tough panel :)13:22
Mamarokand of course congratualtions to Riddell and ScottK for their reelection :)13:23
Mamarokcongratulations*13:24
santa_fine, I got the plasma next thing working here too, still the packaging needs a bit of more work13:25
ScottKThanks13:42
ScottKshadeslayer: KC should have a session soon to approve development plans for Utopic. 13:44
RiddellScottK: was that not what the group call was about last month?13:57
ScottKHistorically we've had the developers come up with a plan and later the KC approves.13:59
ScottKI thought the call was the first part of that. 14:00
Riddellhaving the KC review and approve the current trello list would be no bad thing14:01
Riddellshadeslayer: will you blog the result or post it to fridge or something?#14:03
shadeslayerI go away for 30 minutes and my inbox gets full again14:05
shadeslayerI hate my life14:05
shadeslayerRiddell: not today14:05
soeevolume control is also missing in plasma-next ?14:05
shadeslayeruse kmix14:06
Riddellsgclark: I think you're manually selecting approve on those merge proposals?  there's no need to as launchpad will magically set it to merge when it detects the bzr branches have been merged14:12
soeehow can i run desktop mseetings crom command line ?14:13
sgclarkRiddell: ah ok, new at this14:13
soee*settings14:13
sgclarkRiddell: shouldn't "Has a merge proposal"  go away after I merge? also it looks like kwin and plasma-workspace has multiple requests14:24
Riddellsgclark: yes it should get updated within a few minutes14:25
Riddelle.g. https://code.launchpad.net/~panfaust/kubuntu-packaging-next/khotkeys-work/+merge/223179 is now set to merged14:26
RiddellI see only 1 request for each https://code.launchpad.net/~panfaust/+activereviews14:27
sgclarksomeone named alex has some14:28
Riddellsgclark: URL?14:30
sgclarkRiddell: evidently I am losing my mind because now they are gone, carry on, nothing to see here haha14:32
sgclarkRiddell: I can't seem to find "dolphin" just plugins https://projects.kde.org/search/index/kde?q=dolphin&scope=all&all_words=1&projects=1&submit=Submit14:36
Riddellsgclark: dolphin is in kde-baseapps14:38
Riddellwhich I just confirmed by running  apt-cache showsrc dolphin14:38
RiddellKDE had a habit of putted a dozen different things in one source tar/svn archive.  much of that has been split up as kde moved to git but not all14:39
sgclarkahh ok, thanks14:41
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shadeslayerI'm a leaf on the wind ....16:07
shadeslayerwatch me soar ...16:07
sgclarkRiddell: not sure what to do, this stuff wnt kde4 land depends, which is not going to help kf516:49
lordievaderGood evening.16:53
Riddellsgclark: which stuff?16:53
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sgclarkRiddell: trying dolphin16:54
Riddellsgclark: oh you probably have the kdelibs 4 branch16:54
Riddellis there a frameworks branch?16:54
sgclarkprobably, is there another area for kf5? only found the stuff we have in frameworks16:55
Riddellsgclark: there is a frameworks branch17:02
Riddellgit clone kde:kde-baseapps; cd kde-baseapps; git checkout frameworks17:02
soeeoh im back on old plasma :) to many issues and artifacts on plsma-next17:03
soeewill test again next release17:03
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sgclarkRiddell: and still keep with all these apps or split out dolphin?17:14
Riddellsgclark: package all of them I say17:18
sgclarkok17:19
Riddellsince that'll be the form upstream will release it in I should think17:19
Riddellso one kde-baseapps-4,80.0~git20140616.orig.tar.gz17:19
Riddellmakes dolphin.deb and kfind.deb and whatever else17:19
Riddellalthough I've no idea why we have kfind any more since we have baloo17:20
shadeslayerapachelogger: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yjw595chVgQ17:39
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shadeslayermuch fun, lintian doesn't warn if you use UNRELEASED in the top changelog entry18:07
shadeslayerbut does if you use utopic18:07
santa_debianesque behaviour I guess18:08
Riddellsweet, refurbished kubuntu laptops for sale http://www.adverts.ie/search/user-279087/status_active/type_all18:09
shadeslayerI am so tired of merging18:10
shadeslayerdoes someone want to drive the last 20 or so packages18:10
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