[07:27] anyone feels like helping sandsmark out on the mailing list? [07:27] Riddell maybe? [07:37] good morning apachelogger [07:37] did you have a good weekend? [07:53] valorie: yeah, it's not like I was well rested though ^^ [07:53] valorie: I trust you had a nice weekend as well? [08:18] apachelogger: what mailing list? (not read e-mail yet) [08:23] apachelogger: nope don't see it === vinay is now known as Guest63249 === soee_ is now known as soee [08:56] Riddell: http://markmail.org/thread/qv47vf3mugnuqn57 [09:14] apachelogger: oh yes, will investigate [09:31] 'Morning folks [10:00] hi BluesKaj [10:00] hey soee [10:48] Riddell: when you find 2 free minnutes, please ping me, i have a question @ installing plasma-next [10:49] ping soee [10:50] Riddell: besides plasma-next ppa i need to add some other (from the dependency list) ? [10:50] sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ci-train-ppa-service/landing-005 [10:50] that one [10:51] ok, let me check :) [10:53] Riddell: I thought that was copied? [10:53] Riddell: can you take a look http://paste.ubuntu.com/7652465/ ? [10:55] apachelogger: not quite successfully last I heard [10:55] soee: looks non-dangerous [10:57] Riddell: what about plasma-desktop that is kept back ? === toscalix is now known as toscalix_ [11:01] soee: yes you'll probably need to install that explicitly [11:01] doing that after a dist-upgrade would be wise === toscalix is now known as toscalix_ [11:07] an error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7652501/ === mgraesslin_ is now known as mgraesslin [11:16] ok fixed that one, by runnign first apt-get -f install (configured packages) [11:16] and than sudo dpkg --install --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/powerdevil_4%3a4.97.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa1_amd64.deb [11:17] still the plasma-desktop is kept back [11:18] Riddell: if i try to install plasma-desktop now i think it wants to isntall old packages: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7652539/ [11:19] looks like new packages [11:20] soee: yep that's all new and shiny [11:20] and the one lmarked to remove are fine ? [11:21] yep all expected [11:21] od installing than :) [11:22] Riddell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1330445 [11:22] Ubuntu bug 1330445 in Kubuntu PPA "KDE 4.13.2 for precise" [Undecided,New] [11:25] one more error http://paste.ubuntu.com/7652571/ [11:25] fil try the same steps as before [11:26] ups this one it is a bit different [11:27] ok can i remove this 2: libqt5positioning5 libqt5sensors5 ? [11:32] hmm I thought I'd fixed that klipper error but maybe not [11:32] soee: dunno, is it wanting to remove them? [11:33] Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7652605/ [11:35] ok ill try to reboot, hope i return :) [11:35] you can trust apt when it says they're not longer required [11:36] usually ^^ [11:37] ;] [11:38] yay! [11:38] it works :D [11:40] yay [11:40] the current version dos not have new lightdm style ? [11:51] nope [11:52] there is no lightdm style [11:53] ok, the shortcuts also dont work ? [11:53] Riddell: ^ missing dep on kglobalaccel? [11:55] plasma-workspace: /usr/bin/kglobalaccel5 [11:56] should be included in the same package [11:56] soee_: but everything else works? [11:57] Riddell: more or less :) im not sure what should work and what not :) I can't load task manager settings, my wallpapers is gone and have only bclack screen [11:57] but the missing wallpaper might be related to compositor settings [11:59] Riddell: random other reason: if qt didn't find xkbcommon during build it will build with an internal copy that is insanely old [11:59] going to guess it's not that [11:59] soee_: is kglobalacceel5 running [12:00] soee_: also what exactly do you mean by shortcuts [12:00] apachelogger: the libglobalaccel should be listed in system monitor ? [12:00] yes, kglobalaccel, no lib :P [12:01] yes it is, i cant use ALT+F2, activity switch shortcut so the common i use :) [12:01] ill check if they are not removed [12:01] krunner has a bug in the beta [12:01] open kickoff [12:02] type something [12:02] the search should appear [12:02] try to copy and paste in the search field there [12:02] if that is working it definitely isn't qt [12:02] (isn't a problem in qt I should say) [12:03] I don't seem to have a right click menu to change wallpaper [12:04] apachelogger: i can type search text etc [12:04] but have not results :) [12:04] soee_: and kglobalaccel is not listed in ksysguard? [12:05] apachelogger: kglobalaccel5 is listed in system monitor' [12:05] probably krunner specific then [12:05] also I am not sure activities switching had shortcuts in the beta [12:06] if i try to run krunner from terminal: "Unexpected reply signature: got "no signature", expected "i" (int)" [12:06] that sounds wrong [12:06] killall -9 krunner [12:06] then try again [12:06] actually [12:06] soee: I think something on your system was not upraded [12:06] that output sounds a lot like incompatibility in the dbus interfaces [12:07] :/ [12:08] ok shorcutts like ALT+SHIFT+F12 work [12:09] is there some cmd to restart plasma ? [12:16] where are stored kde settings now > [12:18] xdg dirs (.e.g ~/.config/... ) [12:21] someone can confirm that context menu when clicking on desktop does not work ? [12:21] I can confirm that it does not work for me either [12:23] also taskmanaer or systry settings windows load only widnow frame without content [12:25] desktop effects was empty yeaah, not all of them though [12:25] can i open desktop settings window from terminal ? [12:28] soee_: missing wallpaper is upstream issue, I fixed upstream but not in packages [12:28] Riddell: this is more related to compositor, for example if i turn off desktop effects i can se the default one [12:29] Riddell: how did you change your wallpaper? :) this one is sooo last year [12:30] new on is here https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/workspace/breeze/repository/revisions/master/changes/wallpapers/Next/contents/images/1920x1080.png [12:30] click download [12:31] ty [12:34] sgclark: can you change wallpeper without access to desktop properties ? [12:38] I seem to have broke mine altogether, will answer when I get it going again. I think this laptop may not be able to handle vm === davmor2__ is now known as davmor2 [12:53] dolphins shows kde version as 4.13.1 its fine ? [12:55] soee_ I will be packaging latest dolphin. was messing about with shiny new kf5, but I broke it, only have black sccreen, not sure what I did [12:55] :) [12:56] sgclark: but im asking about KDE version in unicorn [12:56] its 4.13.1 ? [12:59] soee_: 4.13.X where X is somewhere between 0 and 2 [12:59] yofel: yup it shows 4.13.1 here [13:01] the plasma-next avaialble in ppa is beta2 right ? [13:04] Mamarok: congrats on becoming part of Kubuntu Council :D [13:05] again (IIRC) [13:06] :) [13:13] how can i reste all desktop settings in plasma-next (laso panel etc.) [13:14] soee_: rm ~/.config/plasma* [13:21] oh, I was elected? Thank you :) [13:21] you have the power! [13:21] use it wisely [13:22] didn't expect it, there was a tough panel :) [13:23] and of course congratualtions to Riddell and ScottK for their reelection :) [13:24] congratulations* [13:25] fine, I got the plasma next thing working here too, still the packaging needs a bit of more work [13:42] Thanks [13:44] shadeslayer: KC should have a session soon to approve development plans for Utopic. [13:57] ScottK: was that not what the group call was about last month? [13:59] Historically we've had the developers come up with a plan and later the KC approves. [14:00] I thought the call was the first part of that. [14:01] having the KC review and approve the current trello list would be no bad thing [14:03] shadeslayer: will you blog the result or post it to fridge or something?# [14:05] I go away for 30 minutes and my inbox gets full again [14:05] I hate my life [14:05] Riddell: not today [14:05] volume control is also missing in plasma-next ? [14:06] use kmix [14:12] sgclark: I think you're manually selecting approve on those merge proposals? there's no need to as launchpad will magically set it to merge when it detects the bzr branches have been merged [14:13] how can i run desktop mseetings crom command line ? [14:13] Riddell: ah ok, new at this [14:13] *settings [14:24] Riddell: shouldn't "Has a merge proposal" go away after I merge? also it looks like kwin and plasma-workspace has multiple requests [14:25] sgclark: yes it should get updated within a few minutes [14:26] e.g. https://code.launchpad.net/~panfaust/kubuntu-packaging-next/khotkeys-work/+merge/223179 is now set to merged [14:27] I see only 1 request for each https://code.launchpad.net/~panfaust/+activereviews [14:28] someone named alex has some [14:30] sgclark: URL? [14:32] Riddell: evidently I am losing my mind because now they are gone, carry on, nothing to see here haha [14:36] Riddell: I can't seem to find "dolphin" just plugins https://projects.kde.org/search/index/kde?q=dolphin&scope=all&all_words=1&projects=1&submit=Submit [14:38] sgclark: dolphin is in kde-baseapps [14:38] which I just confirmed by running apt-cache showsrc dolphin [14:39] KDE had a habit of putted a dozen different things in one source tar/svn archive. much of that has been split up as kde moved to git but not all [14:41] ahh ok, thanks === rdieter_work is now known as rdieter [14:53] feed branches had 10 updates, showing the latest 6 [16:07] I'm a leaf on the wind .... [16:07] watch me soar ... [16:49] Riddell: not sure what to do, this stuff wnt kde4 land depends, which is not going to help kf5 [16:53] Good evening. [16:53] sgclark: which stuff? [16:53] feed branches had 8 updates, showing the latest 6 [16:54] Riddell: trying dolphin [16:54] sgclark: oh you probably have the kdelibs 4 branch [16:54] is there a frameworks branch? [16:55] probably, is there another area for kf5? only found the stuff we have in frameworks [17:02] sgclark: there is a frameworks branch [17:02] git clone kde:kde-baseapps; cd kde-baseapps; git checkout frameworks [17:03] oh im back on old plasma :) to many issues and artifacts on plsma-next [17:03] will test again next release === Haudegen_ is now known as Haudegen [17:14] Riddell: and still keep with all these apps or split out dolphin? [17:18] sgclark: package all of them I say [17:19] ok [17:19] since that'll be the form upstream will release it in I should think [17:19] so one kde-baseapps-4,80.0~git20140616.orig.tar.gz [17:19] makes dolphin.deb and kfind.deb and whatever else [17:20] although I've no idea why we have kfind any more since we have baloo [17:39] apachelogger: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yjw595chVgQ === greyback is now known as greyback|eod [17:53] feed branches had 12 updates, showing the latest 6 [18:07] much fun, lintian doesn't warn if you use UNRELEASED in the top changelog entry [18:07] but does if you use utopic [18:08] debianesque behaviour I guess [18:09] sweet, refurbished kubuntu laptops for sale http://www.adverts.ie/search/user-279087/status_active/type_all [18:10] I am so tired of merging [18:10] does someone want to drive the last 20 or so packages === rdieter is now known as rdieter_work === Haudegen_ is now known as haudegen