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dholbachgood morning06:25
BobJonkman1Hi belkinsa: Just saw your request from *days* ago:20:41
BobJonkman1http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/06/10/%23ubuntu-locoteams.html#t20:5820:41
BobJonkman1belkinsa: There is no Ubuntu-ca team meeting scheduled, neither for IRC nor VideoChat20:42
belkinsaI know and I figured, but when is the next one?20:42
BobJonkman1I'll poll the mailing list, see if there's sufficient interest.20:43
BobJonkman1Last few meetings it's been mostly me talking to myself.20:43
BobJonkman1Not much point in that, I already know what I'm going to say...20:43
belkinsaAlright, thanks.  Ah, I see and I understand.  I almost had that happen to me in the UOS.20:43
belkinsaI guess meetings should be from time to time if you can't hold monthly ones and you have no major projects.20:44
BobJonkman1As long as it's being recorded or logged somewhere, then any information you give out can still be valuable to other who come across it later20:44
belkinsaIndeed.20:45
BobJonkman1That's right. Usually our meetings are just announcements of Ubuntu events, or local events20:45
BobJonkman1So there may be a lull until the nearer the next release. Global Jam, &c.20:45
belkinsaI see.  The UOS was last week, maybe it would be cool to hear stories if people have stories.20:46
BobJonkman1But I'll ask on the list.20:46
belkinsaThanks.20:46
BobJonkman1I only listened to SABDFL's talk. 20:46
BobJonkman1Actually viewed most of it on the live stream20:46
belkinsaI think I did more work than the other's in my track.  (was a track lead)20:47
BobJonkman1Aside from the sad news about Ubuntu Edge there really wasn't that much20:47
* belkinsa still needs to listen to the keynote(s)20:47
BobJonkman1On another topic: I just ran across the renewal session for the Catalan team. 20:48
BobJonkman1The rejection of their renewal is quite upsetting to me20:48
belkinsaI heard about it but I know more, but it stays with me and the other admins of the Ubuntu Ohio Team20:49
BobJonkman1I hope that the LoCo Council reverses that decision.20:49
BobJonkman1From reading the IRC logs, it seems like the destruction of a viable LoCo Team merely to follow some ill-conceived and badly applied bureaucratic rule20:50
BobJonkman1It applies directly to the Canadian Team as well. There is an Ubuntu Quebec Team (provincial) and an Ubuntu Vancouver Team (municipal)>20:51
belkinsaI think not.  But it raises the question about the LoCo's of the States.20:51
BobJonkman1And only last year the LoCo Council was trying to split up Ubuntu-ca into provincial teams.20:51
belkinsaAnd Canada, I guess.20:51
belkinsaI really think those provincal teams should be really ReLoCo's rather than LoCo's.20:52
belkinsaOr chapters or whatever they are called.20:52
BobJonkman1In Canada Quebec is considered a distinct culture, with a separate, federally recognized language.20:52
BobJonkman1Catalan and Catalonia is also a separate, distinct culture with its own language20:53
belkinsaI hate to say this but LoCo's should be country based not language based.  They should be chapters or ReLoCo's of that country.20:53
BobJonkman1It is merely an unfortunate accident of geo-political history that Catalan and Catalonia don't line up with the current international borders20:54
belkinsaI see now.20:54
BobJonkman1Catalan or Catalonia has about as much in common with Spanish and Spain as any other country20:55
BobJonkman1It was pointed out that the Palestine Team was approved earlier. That' not a country.20:55
belkinsaBut still, I hate to say this I think it should the way that I think it should, ReLoCo's based on language within the LoCo based on country.  But it does raise the issue of communication.20:56
belkinsaReally.  I think the LoCo's and the LC (sorry guys) need to be rebooted and rethought about.20:56
belkinsaReally?*20:57
BobJonkman1Already there are cancellations for events that were organized by the Catalan team. 20:57
belkinsaOh dear.  that's a shame.20:58
BobJonkman1Think of what is best for the Ubuntu Community; don't just apply rules without evaluating if they're appropriate20:58
belkinsa+120:58
BobJonkman1Anyway, enough from me.20:59
belkinsaSame, sorry for that!20:59
belkinsa;)20:59
BobJonkman1I would be happy to participate in any forum on this topic to make my views known.20:59
belkinsaRIght, duh20:59
geniibelkinsa: We actually just had an in-person meeting this Saturday with 4 members attending22:15
belkinsaThat's good to hear, genii.22:16
belkinsaIn person is always better than online.22:16
geniiEspecially when there's food :)22:16
belkinsaIndeed.22:16

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