[06:25] <dholbach> good morning
[20:41] <BobJonkman1> Hi belkinsa: Just saw your request from *days* ago:
[20:41] <BobJonkman1> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/06/10/%23ubuntu-locoteams.html#t20:58
[20:42] <BobJonkman1> belkinsa: There is no Ubuntu-ca team meeting scheduled, neither for IRC nor VideoChat
[20:42] <belkinsa> I know and I figured, but when is the next one?
[20:43] <BobJonkman1> I'll poll the mailing list, see if there's sufficient interest.
[20:43] <BobJonkman1> Last few meetings it's been mostly me talking to myself.
[20:43] <BobJonkman1> Not much point in that, I already know what I'm going to say...
[20:43] <belkinsa> Alright, thanks.  Ah, I see and I understand.  I almost had that happen to me in the UOS.
[20:44] <belkinsa> I guess meetings should be from time to time if you can't hold monthly ones and you have no major projects.
[20:44] <BobJonkman1> As long as it's being recorded or logged somewhere, then any information you give out can still be valuable to other who come across it later
[20:45] <belkinsa> Indeed.
[20:45] <BobJonkman1> That's right. Usually our meetings are just announcements of Ubuntu events, or local events
[20:45] <BobJonkman1> So there may be a lull until the nearer the next release. Global Jam, &c.
[20:46] <belkinsa> I see.  The UOS was last week, maybe it would be cool to hear stories if people have stories.
[20:46] <BobJonkman1> But I'll ask on the list.
[20:46] <belkinsa> Thanks.
[20:46] <BobJonkman1> I only listened to SABDFL's talk. 
[20:46] <BobJonkman1> Actually viewed most of it on the live stream
[20:47] <belkinsa> I think I did more work than the other's in my track.  (was a track lead)
[20:47] <BobJonkman1> Aside from the sad news about Ubuntu Edge there really wasn't that much
[20:47]  * belkinsa still needs to listen to the keynote(s)
[20:48] <BobJonkman1> On another topic: I just ran across the renewal session for the Catalan team. 
[20:48] <BobJonkman1> The rejection of their renewal is quite upsetting to me
[20:49] <belkinsa> I heard about it but I know more, but it stays with me and the other admins of the Ubuntu Ohio Team
[20:49] <BobJonkman1> I hope that the LoCo Council reverses that decision.
[20:50] <BobJonkman1> From reading the IRC logs, it seems like the destruction of a viable LoCo Team merely to follow some ill-conceived and badly applied bureaucratic rule
[20:51] <BobJonkman1> It applies directly to the Canadian Team as well. There is an Ubuntu Quebec Team (provincial) and an Ubuntu Vancouver Team (municipal)>
[20:51] <belkinsa> I think not.  But it raises the question about the LoCo's of the States.
[20:51] <BobJonkman1> And only last year the LoCo Council was trying to split up Ubuntu-ca into provincial teams.
[20:51] <belkinsa> And Canada, I guess.
[20:52] <belkinsa> I really think those provincal teams should be really ReLoCo's rather than LoCo's.
[20:52] <belkinsa> Or chapters or whatever they are called.
[20:52] <BobJonkman1> In Canada Quebec is considered a distinct culture, with a separate, federally recognized language.
[20:53] <BobJonkman1> Catalan and Catalonia is also a separate, distinct culture with its own language
[20:53] <belkinsa> I hate to say this but LoCo's should be country based not language based.  They should be chapters or ReLoCo's of that country.
[20:54] <BobJonkman1> It is merely an unfortunate accident of geo-political history that Catalan and Catalonia don't line up with the current international borders
[20:54] <belkinsa> I see now.
[20:55] <BobJonkman1> Catalan or Catalonia has about as much in common with Spanish and Spain as any other country
[20:55] <BobJonkman1> It was pointed out that the Palestine Team was approved earlier. That' not a country.
[20:56] <belkinsa> But still, I hate to say this I think it should the way that I think it should, ReLoCo's based on language within the LoCo based on country.  But it does raise the issue of communication.
[20:56] <belkinsa> Really.  I think the LoCo's and the LC (sorry guys) need to be rebooted and rethought about.
[20:57] <belkinsa> Really?*
[20:57] <BobJonkman1> Already there are cancellations for events that were organized by the Catalan team. 
[20:58] <belkinsa> Oh dear.  that's a shame.
[20:58] <BobJonkman1> Think of what is best for the Ubuntu Community; don't just apply rules without evaluating if they're appropriate
[20:58] <belkinsa> +1
[20:59] <BobJonkman1> Anyway, enough from me.
[20:59] <belkinsa> Same, sorry for that!
[20:59] <belkinsa> ;)
[20:59] <BobJonkman1> I would be happy to participate in any forum on this topic to make my views known.
[20:59] <belkinsa> RIght, duh
[22:15] <genii> belkinsa: We actually just had an in-person meeting this Saturday with 4 members attending
[22:16] <belkinsa> That's good to hear, genii.
[22:16] <belkinsa> In person is always better than online.
[22:16] <genii> Especially when there's food :)
[22:16] <belkinsa> Indeed.