[01:34] <JoshStrobl> hey guys, how do I re-install a core app like the File Manager and Calendar? They don't open, icon blank, and just doing an uninstall then click the Install button again doesn't work. Is it a package I can grab via apt-get or a particular click I need to push and install using adb?
[01:54] <nhaines> JoshStrobl: not possible.
[01:54] <JoshStrobl> nhaines: *sigh*
[01:55] <JoshStrobl> nhaines: so I gotta do a fresh install then?
[01:57] <nhaines> JoshStrobl: sounds like it.
[05:28] <Vairam> can anyone send me the download link for ubuntu touch latest build for droid razr xt912
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> !devices | Vairam
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> Vairam: ubuntu-touch works best for nexus devices for now..
[05:29] <Vairam> oh
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> Vairam: its also best you install channel=devel to receive updates
[05:29] <Vairam> i tried old build it has problem with tower
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> Vairam: also check the XDA formums for your device
[05:39] <Vairam> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/
[05:39] <Vairam> files from this link is not working
[06:28] <dholbach> good morning
[08:25] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Monday and happy Fresh Veggies Day! :-D
[08:30] <ybon> It's now three days my girlfriend uses the Nexus 4 on Ubuntu Touch I've installed for her, and she's yet gone to work with *my* phone :D (that they are both totally similar, apart from one being in English and the other in French)
[08:32] <ybon> Is phablet-screenshot working? I need to send her the SMS she receive :p
[08:33] <ybon> I have this error remote object '/tmp/mir_screencast_768x1280.rgba' does not exist
[08:33] <popey> ybon: yes, you need to patch it as the mir socket moved
[08:33] <popey> one moment let me find the bug
[08:33] <ybon> thanks popey :)
[08:35] <popey> ybon: bug 1327139
[08:36] <ybon> thanks!
[08:37] <ybon> davmor2: about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-messages/+bug/1329289 are you sure the message is not sent?
[08:37] <ybon> I was about to file an issue about a similar problem I have with the indicator
[08:37] <oSoMoN> sil2100: hey could you (or someone you trust) comment on this minor packaging change in webbrowser-app? https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/webbrowser-app/fonts-liberation/+merge/223203
[08:37] <ybon> but in my case the message *is* sent, but never appears in the message app as sent
[08:37] <davmor2> ybon: Yes as I never receive it :)
[08:38] <davmor2> ybon: I'm sending messages to myself.  So I know that the text comes through correctly
[08:38] <ybon> davmor2: ok :)
[08:38] <ybon> So I need to file a new one
[08:45] <ybon> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-messages/+bug/1330390
[08:49] <ybon> where I can find the translation for "Unlock your PIN" message in the unlock PIN page? It's far too long in French, I'd like to propone another
[08:54] <ybon> popey: I don't see how to apply the info from the mirscreencast bug to phablet-screenshot, any hint?
[08:55] <ybon> i.e. I don't see any command line option for defining the socket in pablet-screenshot
[08:56] <popey> ybon: you need to ninja edit phablet-screenshot - the line which calls mirscreencast, add a -w /run/mir_socket
[08:56] <popey> i think
[08:57] <ybon> ooookey :)
[08:57] <ogra_> time that sergio returns so we can merge that fix
[08:57]  * ybon ninja mode
[09:04] <ybon> still remote object '/var/run/mir_screencast_768x1280.rgba' does not exist
[09:04] <popey> ybon: you need to update your phablet tools it seems you have very old ones
[09:04] <ybon> I see mir_screencast_768x1280_60Hz.rgba in /tmp
[09:04] <ybon> oh
[09:04] <popey> yeah, the freq was added a while back
[09:04] <ybon> should I need a new ppa?
[09:04] <popey> or ninja that in
[09:04] <popey> what release of ubuntu you using?
[09:04] <ybon> 14.04
[09:05] <ybon> yet time to upgrade? :p
[09:05] <popey>   Installed: 1.0+14.10.20140528.1-0ubuntu1
[09:05] <popey> no, I'm sticking to 14.04 as long as I can
[09:05] <lotuspsychje> till 2019 :p
[09:05] <ybon> 1.0+14.04.20140416-0ubuntu1
[09:05] <ybon> so I'm late, yeah
[09:05] <popey> yeah, yours is olde
[09:06] <ybon> it may be that I'm using a wrong ppa
[09:06] <popey>         500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/phablet-team/tools/ubuntu/ trusty/main amd64 Packages
[09:06] <popey> thats where my phablet-tools came from
[09:06] <ybon> APT-Sources: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/universe amd64 Packages
[09:07] <ybon> this is mine I guess
[09:07] <ybon> let me change that
[09:07] <ybon> thanks :)
[09:07] <popey> np
[09:07] <popey> how are you btw ☻
[09:07] <popey> also "morning"
[09:07] <ybon> :)
[09:07] <ybon> I'm fine :)
[09:08] <ybon> familly time https://twitter.com/informagicien/status/478299349718687745
[09:08] <ybon> and setting up my girlfriend phone :)
[09:09] <ybon> I'm planning a new run on OSMTouch, but don't know exactly when, as I need a bit of time to understand how to override the QT map to allow more control
[09:09] <popey> oh i saw that picture on the weekend, didn't realise you took it!
[09:10] <ybon> I took it... and eat it! ;)
[09:10] <popey> hehe
[09:12] <sil2100> oSoMoN: hey! Sure
[09:12] <oSoMoN> sil2100, thx!
[09:13] <ybon> humm, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/phablet-tools shows mine as latest, so I need something more cowboy I guess
[09:14] <popey> well, the ppa will still fail with the mir_socket issue, but should have the 60Hz added
[09:15] <ybon> adding this one https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+archive/tools atm
[09:16] <ybon> popey: just thinking, what about organizing a OSMTouch sprint at some point?
[09:16] <popey> sounds fun ☻
[09:17] <ybon> :)
[09:17] <popey> i like the idea of community people planning and running sprinting events.
[09:17] <popey> I'm planning on making some core apps hackdays soon. Maybe we could combine this, have core apps days mon-weds, and community app sprinting thurs-fri?
[09:18] <popey> (of course people are welcome to hack on whatever they want on whatever day they like)
[09:18] <popey> but we focus on two apps per day usually.
[09:19] <ybon> that sounds nice
[09:19] <ybon> also I can move somewhere over the world if there is some IRL event where we can have a more IRL sprint :)
[09:20] <popey> thats also something we're thinking of doing
[09:20] <ybon> The next need on OSMTouch is to have our own QtMap, so we can control more think, like double tap for zooming, or more map styles
[09:20] <popey> will bring it up in our team call later today
[09:20] <popey> maybe a sprint in the london office
[09:20] <ybon> cool :)
[09:20] <ybon> I would love that!
[09:21] <ybon> popey: screenshort working, thanks!
[09:22] <popey> \o/
[09:22] <ybon> (oh but phone frozen :p )
[09:22] <popey> ☹
[09:23] <ybon> damn, no way to unfreeze it
[09:23] <ybon> first time I see that
[09:25] <ybon> rebooting :s
[09:31] <ybon> someone able to help debug why I cannot install any app? This is was I get http://i.imgur.com/GD4YJZ8.png
[09:31] <ybon> the download seems ok, but then the install fails
[09:32] <ybon> downloads_db.cpp:147]  out of memory Error opening database <= in the ubuntu-download-manager logs
[09:32] <popey> ybon: what image you running?
[09:32] <popey> oof
[09:32] <ybon> #79
[09:33] <popey> go to accounts, sign out of Ubuntu One, and sign back in
[09:33] <ybon> ok
[09:33] <popey> then try again
[09:33] <popey> also we have some datacentre issues over the weekend which are still happening, if that doesn't fix it, then it *could* be that
[09:33] <ybon> but it works from my other phone
[09:34] <popey> ah okay, so likely is that issue
[09:34] <popey> auth token expired
[09:34] <ybon> (which I don't have with my right now because my gf took it by error this morning :p )
[09:34] <popey> hah
[09:34] <ybon> popey: but it seems that download is ok, only the install fails
[09:34] <popey> out of disk space?
[09:34] <ybon> according to df -h, no
[09:35] <ybon> popey: relogged, should I restart also?
[09:36] <popey> cant hurt
[09:36]  * ybon invoking black wizards at some point
[09:36] <popey> but shouldn't need to
[09:36] <ybon> ok :)
[09:36] <ybon> let's do that just in case
[09:36] <popey> get some chalk and a chicken
[09:37] <ybon> do you think sardinian gnocchis can do the job?
[09:37] <ybon> I can go for raviolis too if needed
[09:37] <popey> the gods of phone aren't fussy
[09:37] <popey> just no apples
[09:37] <ybon> :D
[09:39] <ybon> gasp, same error popey :(
[09:39] <popey> hm
[09:46] <popey> could be DC issue still then, i see no apps on my phone
[09:47] <ybon> ok
[09:47] <ybon> note that I see this problem from some days
[09:47] <ybon> and yet Friday I was able to download from my own phone, but not from the one of my gf, having this error
[09:48] <ybon> So I guess it's more linked to the phone itself than to an external source
[09:51] <meaning> hello all.
[09:51] <popey> hi
[09:51] <meaning> I'm gonna idle here a little bit as I am pretty enthusiastic about the project :)
[09:51] <popey> super!
[09:51] <meaning> especially interrested in the oem / tablet creation possibilities
[09:52] <meaning> I am looking for a device that would be molest proof...
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> meaning: we all run ubuntu-touch without molest here :p
[09:58] <meaning> hahaha yes I dont doubt it :)
[09:59] <lotuspsychje> its already more stable and much safer that bl**dy android
[09:59] <meaning> but I'm working in a very specific field where people tends to be very agressive with the hardware.
[09:59] <lotuspsychje> you wanna hammertest devices :p?
[09:59] <meaning> I'm looking for devices that looks like the ones we could use in the streets
[09:59] <meaning> avoiding vandalism
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> explain that a bit plz :p
[10:00] <meaning> well...I work with mentally insane people...want to make them make use of tablets. but they could easily hit them, break them...etc.
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> meaning: well you need rubber protection, rather then ubuntu touch then>?
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> meaning: or you want the software to be safe too?
[10:02] <meaning> I would like them to onyl be able to make use of very specific features
[10:02] <lotuspsychje> games?
[10:02] <meaning> a closed interface
[10:02] <meaning> yes games would be great
[10:02] <lotuspsychje> we have few games apps already on touch
[10:02] <meaning> lotuspsychje are you working for canonical ?
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> tnx to all the dev guys working on it
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> no, im a happy touch user
[10:03] <meaning> ok :)
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> meaning: installed touch on nexus7 tablet, and working smoothly
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> meaning: you have developing skillz?
[10:04] <meaning> just a little bit :)
[10:04] <meaning> my company has its own dev team
[10:04] <meaning> I am product manager ;)
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> meaning: interesting!
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> meaning: wich company is that
[10:04] <meaning> that's why I like to approach possible partners by connecting directly to the irc chans...in my opinion it is the best way to proceed
[10:05] <meaning> I'dd like not to talk about this atm ;)
[10:05] <meaning> sorry man :)
[10:05] <lotuspsychje> kk
[10:05] <lotuspsychje> no sweat
[10:05] <lotuspsychje> you know 2 oem ubuntu touch phones are up to come this year?
[10:05] <lotuspsychje> you can follow news on omgubuntu if you like
[10:05] <meaning> yes but I definitely will need tablets
[10:05] <meaning> :)
[10:05] <meaning> I already do
[10:05] <meaning> heh
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> well touch works on my tablet
[10:06] <meaning> lotuspsychje it's good to see that enthusiasm of users around here ! :)
[10:06] <meaning> gotta go for now...I'm working in GMT+1...meaning its time to lunch for me ! ;)
[10:06] <meaning> bbl
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> well, the enthousiasm is all about ubuntu
[10:06] <meaning> see you !
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> laterz
[11:10] <Mirv> oSoMoN: any update on the Oxide update? we'd like to land Qt 5.3 this week and the compositing working would be absolutely needed for web
[11:25] <oSoMoN> Mirv, it will be landing this week for sure
[11:44] <Mirv> oSoMoN: ok, keep me posted
[11:44] <oSoMoN> will do
[13:11] <AskUbuntu> E:unable to open debricking | http://askubuntu.com/q/484061
[13:20] <mpt> Wellark, how long does a Wi-Fi hotspot take to start, usually?
[13:20] <mpt> Half a second? Five seconds? Twenty?
[13:21] <ogra_> mpt, on the phone ?
[13:21] <mpt> ogra_, yes
[13:21] <ogra_> a week or two :)
[13:21] <mpt> har har
[13:21] <ogra_> (to implement it first)
[13:22] <ogra_> once implemented its a matter of a few seconds
[13:22] <mpt> Hmm, a few seconds is slow UI-wise
[13:22] <mpt> Okay, so we’ll need some progress feedback
[13:22] <mpt> Thanks ogra_
[13:22] <ogra_> it needs to switch the driver to a different mode and then do all the network-manager magic on top
[13:41] <ogra_> cyphermox, so i tested the BT audio stuff today on flo ... i get a connection but audio doesnt get routed through the BT speaker
[13:41] <cyphermox> ogra_: ok
[13:41] <cyphermox> have you tested on mako too?
[13:41] <cyphermox> I never had my hands on a flo to take a look at bluetooth
[13:43] <ogra_> my mako still runs the last promoted image that doesnt have the cahnges yet
[13:44] <cyphermox> ah, right
[14:03] <tedg> dbarth, alex-abreu, hey guys, I noticed that you're not registering for domains in url-dispatcher with webapps. Is there a reason, or didn't know about it, or TODO?
[14:04] <tedg> We'd put that feature in primarily for webapps. I'll drop it if it's useless :-)
[14:04] <alex-abreu> tedg, mostly that I didn't know about it :)
[14:04] <alex-abreu> tedg, any quick pointer where I can have a look?
[14:05] <alex-abreu> tedg, this is something that I have been waiting for some time (if it is what I think it is) but I missed the MR so didn't know it was in
[14:05] <tedg> alex-abreu, http://developer.ubuntu.com/apps/platform/guides/uri-dispatcher-guide/
[14:05]  * tedg is trying to be good and use the new fancy link mhall119 gave him
[14:06] <mhall119> :)
[14:06] <tedg> alex-abreu, Basically allows facebook webapp to register for http://*.facebook.com
[14:06] <alex-abreu> tedg, precisely what I wanted :) ... awesome!
[14:06] <tedg> alex-abreu, So that way if an app has "Go to my Facebook page" and links, it could go to the webapp.
[14:07] <Saviq> barry, hey, I ended up with multiple versions of (preinstalled, afaict) clicks installed for the same user, anything I can do to debug what's happened?
[14:08] <pmcgowan> Saviq, yeah we all have that since last week, maybe gatox would know
[14:08] <alex-abreu> tedg, I might submit a few MRs or bgs, to enhance the uses cases (after I actually see what kind of patterns it can support)
[14:09] <tedg> alex-abreu, Cool, it's fairly simple right now. Just a domain suffix.
[14:09] <gatox> pmcgowan, Saviq no..... has pkcon changed in any way?
[14:10] <alex-abreu> tedg, right, it might be handy to e.g. support http & https and more precisely a form such as https?, etc.
[14:10] <tedg> alex-abreu, Sitting down with mpt we couldn't come up with use cases that needed more. So if you've got them we're game.
[14:10] <tedg> alex-abreu, You can register multiple in that case.
[14:10] <alex-abreu> tedg, we got them :)
[14:10] <pmcgowan> gatox, my theory was competing updates form the store and image
[14:10] <pmcgowan> since we download both at the same time
[14:10] <alex-abreu> tedg, right, but might be simpler w/ the ?
[14:11] <Saviq> gatox, nothing I know of
[14:13] <barry> Saviq: no idea from me, unfortunately
[14:14]  * Saviq wonders who should be notified of this
[14:14] <ogra_> Saviq, the click scope people ?
[14:14] <ogra_> or cjwatson as click maintainer ?
[14:14] <gatox> Saviq, if it is about click updates
[14:14] <gatox> me
[14:14] <Saviq> gatox, I'm not sure what happened, I just noticed after flashing my device today that I got missing icons
[14:14]  * ogra_ doubts its a UI thing ... 
[14:15] <gatox> Saviq, i'll look into that... but the weird thing is that no changes has been made there this last weeks
[14:15] <ogra_> i have the same on my flo here
[14:15] <ogra_> well, i have them duplicated
[14:15] <Saviq> gatox, I didn't use the settings app to update anything OTA
[14:15] <Saviq> ogra_, yup, and missing icons?
[14:15] <ogra_> music, calculator etc are there twice
[14:15] <ogra_> right
[14:15] <Saviq> yeah, same thing
[14:15] <gatox> Saviq, ahh no system/click updates from system settings?
[14:15] <ogra_> and one is trannslated, the other isnt
[14:15] <Saviq> ogra_, yeah, probably .mo missing
[14:15] <ogra_> i had updates iirc
[14:16] <ogra_> it is like that since a while on my flo ... (a week or so)
[14:16] <Saviq> gatox, not for those apps, no, preinstalled got updated via image flashing
[14:16] <gatox> Saviq, mmm if it wasn't during a system/click update from system settings..... then not me
[14:16] <Saviq> gatox, yeah, I didn't think so
[14:16] <Saviq> ogra_, do you know of a bug#?
[14:16] <ogra_> nope
[14:16]  * Saviq files
[14:16] <ogra_> i dont have it on my mako
[14:17] <ogra_> only on the flo
[14:17] <ogra_> (the mako is running promoted (79) though ... )
[14:17] <cjwatson> Saviq: simply having multiple versions shouldn't be a problem in itself
[14:17] <ogra_> cjwatson, well, the Ui presenting both of them to you is one :)
[14:18] <cjwatson> then people should say what they mean rather than coming up with proxies
[14:20] <cjwatson> Saviq: could you please pastebin: ls -l /opt/click.ubuntu.com/.click/users/phablet/ /home/phablet/.cache/upstart-app-launch/desktop/ /home/phablet/.local/share/applications/
[14:21] <Saviq> cjwatson, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7653266/
[14:22] <cjwatson> Saviq: ok, that's an ubuntu-app-launch bug - its hook should have synchronised ~/.local/share/applications/ with the source directory (~/.cache/upstart-app-launch/desktop/) and has failed to do so
[14:22] <cjwatson> Saviq: there might be something useful in ~/.cache/upstart/click-user-hooks.log (or something like that)
[14:23] <ogra_> is the dir still called upstart-app-launch after the rename ?
[14:23] <Saviq> cjwatson, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7653270/
[14:23] <cjwatson> ogra_: it was for a while, but indeed I just noticed it isn't any more
[14:24] <Saviq> grr ^W
[14:24] <ogra_> well, tedg should have done some transition from a maintainer scritp or so
[14:24] <cjwatson> Saviq: ls -l ~/.cache/ubuntu-app-launch/desktop/
[14:24] <cjwatson> ogra_: shouldn't be necessary
[14:24] <ogra_> k
[14:24] <Saviq> cjwatson, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7653277/
[14:25] <cjwatson> Saviq: right, still an ubuntu-app-launch bug despite my initial mistake :)
[14:26] <cjwatson> click has given it the right data but it isn't dealing with removed files properly
[14:27] <tedg> Sync issue between the cache and local/share/apps?
[14:28] <cjwatson> tedg: apparently; but that's entirely controlled by your hook :)
[14:28] <tedg> Sure, just missing a pastebin I think of the applications directory listing?
[14:28] <cjwatson> tedg: part of http://paste.ubuntu.com/7653266/
[14:29] <cjwatson> (disregard the first block, my u-a-l checkout was out of date)
[14:29]  * ogra_ assumes it will only affect people that updated preinstalled apps during the renaming ... i.e. wont affect promoted images (since they are so far apart in versions)
[14:30] <tedg> Who's machine is this? /me wants to ping the right person :-)
[14:30] <ogra_> tedg, Saviq and I see it
[14:30] <tedg> My guess is that you got one of the interim images that had the click desktop hook run.
[14:30] <ogra_> the pastes are from Saviq
[14:30] <tedg> ogra_, Can you see if they both have the X-Ubuntu-Application-ID field?
[14:31] <ogra_> right, i dont see it on my mako that only runs promoted images ... i do see it on my flo that runs all devel images
[14:31] <tedg> UAL won't delete something it didn't creat.
[14:31] <tedg> create
[14:31] <tedg> And it checks for that field to see if it created it.
[14:31] <ogra_> where is that tag exactly ?
[14:31] <tedg> ogra_, In the desktop file, likely towards the end.
[14:31] <tedg> ogra_, Generated one ~/.local/share/applications
[14:32] <ogra_> looking at gallery app, only the second one has it
[14:33] <tedg> Yeah, so the first one was created by the click desktop hook. Which is why UAL didn't delete it (and won't).
[14:34] <tedg> That was caused by a bug where the click desktop hook wasn't changed for the rename, so it ran before the UAL one.
[14:34] <ogra_> tedg, well, the prob now is that the UI gives me no way to remove the broken one
[14:35] <ogra_> trying the usual way i only get a "open" button ... no "remove" anywhere
[14:36] <ogra_> funnily tapping the icon-less entry properly opens the app
[14:37] <tedg> ogra_, Heh, if you just remove the applications directory and run the UAL hook it'll rebuild it for you.
[14:38] <tedg> Not a GUI solution, but a pretty quick fix.
[14:38] <ogra_> tedg, right, i dont moind doing that ... but we have many people out there running the proposed images ... probably a mail is in order to tell them how to get rid of that
[14:41] <sil2100> dholbach: ping :)
[14:41] <dholbach> sil2100, pong
[14:41] <cjwatson> tedg: ah, yeah, that would make sense
[14:42] <tedg> Sorry, wireless firmware died :-/
[14:42] <davmor2> Mirv: header isn't right in gallery on qt5.3 either
[14:43] <tedg> Sure, I'm surprised that people would be running devel-proposed for things they don't expect to wipe regularly. But don't mind sending the mail.
[14:43] <ogra_> well, some people like to live on the edge
[14:43] <ogra_> (i dont)
[14:43] <ogra_> :)
[14:44] <davmor2> tedg: because someone has to find the faults
[14:45] <tedg> I'll see if I can find the video of the house they just burned down in Dallas because the foundation was falling into the lake :-)
[14:45] <tedg> davmor2, We're good, we have enough faults, we don't need you to find more :-)
[14:47] <davmor2> tedg: Tough :P
[14:57] <Mirv> davmor2: oh, ok... file a bug, ping devs
[15:04] <janimo> barry, hi, I filed two MRs agains system-image-cli last week (one based on our conversation)
[15:08] <barry> janimo: yep, thanks i saw them, and they are on my list to review.  i was working on a few other big branches first, but i think both are sufficiently stalled at the moment that i won't wait for them to finish before looking at your branches.  hopefully in the next day or so, but ping me if they languish any longer than that
[15:08] <janimo> barry, thanks!
[15:09] <janimo> barry, the auth one is useful as some of our OEM builds are served over restricted https connections
[15:09] <oSoMoN> didrocks, hey, I need a core-dev ack on https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/webbrowser-app/fonts-liberation/+merge/223203, do you have a minute to look at it?
[15:11] <didrocks> oSoMoN: sure, doing
[15:12] <didrocks> oSoMoN: approved
[15:12] <oSoMoN> thanks!
[15:13] <didrocks> yw ;)
[15:37] <ogra_> sergiusens, there is a phablet-screenshot fix awaiting your review and ack ...
[16:25] <lotuspsychje> any news on pdf reader yet?
[17:06] <balloons> ping jdstrand
[17:09] <jdstrand> balloons: hey
[17:09] <balloons> jdstrand, just curious about apparmor errors I still see from mknod: Jun 13 20:47:22 ubuntu-phablet kernel: [19523.720367] type=1400 audit(1402692442.412:389): apparmor="DENIED" operation="mknod" parent=1852 profile="com.ubuntu.calendar_calendar_0.4.319" name="/home/phablet/autopilot/fakeenv/tmp99b763f1/.config/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/theme.ini.TJ9415" pid=9415 comm="qmlscene" requested_mask="c" denied_mask="c" fsuid=32011 ouid=32011
[17:10] <balloons> they don't affect anything, but they still exist and are a bit weird..
[17:11] <jdstrand> balloons: that isn't an exception listed in click.rules
[17:12] <jdstrand> this gets back to the problem of fakeenv that we discussed. there are non-app specific readonly paths that are affected by using fakeenv
[17:13] <jdstrand> they either need to be added to the click.rules file and copied in by the test tool or symlinked from the fakeenv to the real location by the test tool
[17:15] <balloons> jdstrand, is this yet another rule we didn't add then?
[17:15] <lotuspsychje> downloading version 83...
[17:15] <balloons> if so, I guess, can we do so?
[17:17] <jdstrand> balloons: well, like I said. there is a choice. 1) have the test tool create the symlink from the fakeenv to the actual file and don't change the policy or 2) copy the file in to place in the fakeenv and update the policy
[17:18] <jdstrand> I think '1' is easier to maintain cause it is only in the test tool, whereas '2' is in the test tool and the clic.rules file in autopilot
[17:19] <jdstrand> '1' isn't totally isolated, but apps won't be allowed to change the contents of those symlinked files, so it shouldn't really be a problem
[17:20] <jdstrand> balloons: this is really going to have to be done for every file that is affected by resetting the XDG variables that isn't in the app-specific directory
[17:25] <jdstrand> balloons: grep HOME /usr/share/apparmor/easyprof/*/ubuntu/*/*|cut -d ':' -f 2- | sed 's/^ *//' | grep -v APP_|sort -u
[17:26]  * jdstrand would ignore the cordova-ubuntu-2.8 ones
[17:42] <balloons> jdstrand, ahh that's what you mean
[17:44] <balloons> so symlinking everything listed here will allow the app to read it under the fake home as usual and nothing more
[17:44] <balloons> and then I shouldn't see the errors
[17:44] <balloons> cool
[17:45] <jdstrand> balloons: right. apparmor will resolve the symlink so the policy doesn't have to be updated, yet, the app is accessing it under the fakeenv
[17:54] <rickspencer3> may I assume that image #83 has the split greeter revert?
[17:55]  * rickspencer3 updates
[17:55] <dobey> rickspencer3: #81 had it
[17:56] <rickspencer3> oh?
[17:56] <rickspencer3> dobey, was #81 promoted?
[17:56] <dobey> according to landing team mail
[17:56] <dobey> no, i don't think so
[17:56] <rickspencer3> right
[17:58] <ogra_> yeah, wplit greeter is out now
[17:58] <ogra_> *split
[18:01] <ogra_> cyphermox, awesome ... music from my speaker in #83 !!
[18:02] <cyphermox> ogra_: rsalveti landed the pulse changes?
[18:02] <ogra_> well, it works on mako (which just got 83 since i promoted it 30min ago)
[18:03] <ogra_> it doent work on flo ... which likely needs some extra pulse love
[18:04] <rsalveti> cyphermox: not yet, hopefully landing this week
[18:05] <cyphermox> hmm
[18:05] <rsalveti> cyphermox: oh, sorry
[18:05] <cyphermox> it should not work on either, or work on both
[18:05] <rsalveti> cyphermox: you mean the config changes
[18:05] <cyphermox> yeah
[18:05] <rsalveti> not pulse-droid
[18:05] <cyphermox> I see what you mean now ;)
[18:06] <rsalveti> not yet, will push in a few, just flashing a clean image to test
[18:06] <lotuspsychje> image gallery still crashing on version 83 on my nexus7
[18:07] <cyphermox> so how does it work on mako then?
[18:07] <cyphermox> unless we're just lucky in this particular case, and it goes to bluetooth anyway
[18:08] <cyphermox> ogra_: on flo, did you start music-app after or before connecting the bluetooth device?
[18:08] <ogra_> after
[18:08] <ogra_> i even killed and restarted it
[18:08] <cyphermox> ugh
[18:08]  * cyphermox will go buy a flo tomorrow
[18:09] <rsalveti> ogra_: cyphermox: wonder how it works on mako but not on flo without the pulse changes
[18:09] <ChickenCutlass> cyphermox, rsalveti oh so the a2dp pulse thing did not land yet
[18:09] <rsalveti> will test and see
[18:09] <rsalveti> nops
[18:09] <ChickenCutlass> lol
[18:09] <ogra_> i'd try again but the BT indicator doesnt start scanning
[18:09] <ChickenCutlass> I wonder why it worked
[18:09] <cyphermox> rsalveti: that's what I was saying
[18:10] <ogra_> in fact i cant enable BT now on my flo
[18:10] <ogra_> :(
[18:10] <rsalveti> I got an a2dp device in hands, will test after it finishes flashing latest image
[18:11]  * ogra_ reboots :(
[18:11] <cyphermox> rsalveti: a2dp only?
[18:11] <rsalveti> yup
[18:11] <cyphermox> ok
[18:11] <cyphermox> what device?
[18:11] <cyphermox> I don't have any that are a2dp only
[18:11] <rsalveti> I guess it's the same speaker ogra_ had in the sprint
[18:11] <cyphermox> oh ok
[18:11] <dobey> ugh. #83 has the black screen of death issue still for me :(
[18:11] <cyphermox> Bose Mini SoundLink
[18:12] <rsalveti> yeah
[18:12] <cyphermox> ack
[18:12] <cyphermox> rsalveti: will you have time to help me with bluez/hsp this week?
[18:12] <cyphermox> like I mentioned before, kind of out of options and ideas on why it doesn't work
[18:12] <rsalveti> cyphermox: yup, planning to spend some time on that tomorrow already
[18:12] <cyphermox> alright
[18:13] <cyphermox> I tried with pulse-droid but didn't manage to switch the port to something that would do hsp
[18:13] <ogra_> ok, no go on my flo ... just confirmed again
[18:13] <cyphermox> all the profiles already appear fine for it
[18:13] <ogra_> its funny, since flo and mako are largely the same devices
[18:13]  * dobey wonders how the heck to even debug this issue
[18:14] <ogra_> dobey, start with /system/bin/logcat -d
[18:14] <ogra_> that should show you any driver issues
[18:16] <dobey> i did an adb shell while the screen was black, and whoopsie was doing something. not sure what crashed though
[18:58] <rsalveti> cyphermox: ogra_: system-settings seems to be quite broken for me on latest
[18:58] <rsalveti> after entering in the bluetooth section, I can't get back
[18:58] <cyphermox> broken how?
[18:59] <rsalveti> and the enable/disable icon is not there
[18:59] <cyphermox> click at the top left
[18:59] <cyphermox> press I mean
[18:59] <rsalveti> there's no top left :-)
[18:59] <rsalveti> let me take a picture
[18:59] <cyphermox> no title?
[18:59] <rsalveti> nops
[18:59] <cyphermox> yuck
[18:59] <cyphermox> why did this make it in the archive then? :D
[19:00] <rsalveti> right :-)
[19:00] <rsalveti> ogra_: how to take a screenshot now?
[19:00] <rsalveti> phablet-screenshot is not working for me
[19:00] <rsalveti> Failed to connect to server. Error was :connect: No such file or directory
[19:00] <rsalveti> remote object '/tmp/mir_screencast_768x1280.rgba' does not exist
[19:00] <rsalveti> guess because of the socket path changes
[19:01] <cyphermox> ah
[19:01] <cyphermox> there's a slight difference in the file name yeah
[19:01] <rsalveti> 115     adb shell mirscreencast -m /tmp/mir_socket -n1 -f $MIRFILENAME
[19:01] <rsalveti> wonder if we already have an MR for that
[19:02] <rsalveti> https://code.launchpad.net/~ogra/phablet-tools/fix-socket-location/+merge/222422
[19:03] <rsalveti> ogra_: we need to land that :-)
[19:03] <rsalveti> let me test/review
[19:04] <rsalveti> cyphermox: http://people.canonical.com/~rsalveti/system-settings.png
[19:05] <cyphermox> cute.
[19:05] <rsalveti> but it seems that every screen is broken
[19:05] <rsalveti> in system-settings
[19:05] <rsalveti> wtf
[19:05] <rsalveti> this is image 84
[19:06] <ChickenCutlass> rsalveti, I am running 84 -- its fine for me
[19:06] <rsalveti> weird, let me reboot
[19:08] <rsalveti> nah, still broken
[19:09] <rsalveti> wonder if that's a bad config or such
[19:12] <rsalveti> ChickenCutlass: cyphermox: yeah, worked fine after erasing ~/.config and such
[19:12] <ChickenCutlass> weird
[19:15] <rsalveti> can't connect, I'm able to see the device but stays on connecting
[19:29] <dobey> W/Adreno-ES20( 2368): <core_glReadPixels:212>: GL_INVALID_OPERATION
[19:29] <dobey> W/Adreno-EGLSUB( 2368): <CacheInvalidateHandle:243>: PMEM_INV_CACHES undefined
[19:29] <dobey> ogra_: ^^ if you're still around, do you think that could maybe be related to unblank failure? i see that on image #50 though which works, so maybe not?
[19:41] <rsalveti> cyphermox: can't connect with mako, for whatever reason
[19:42] <rsalveti> let me test with flo
[19:43] <rsalveti> alright, connected after removing the previous config I had for it, and rebooting
[19:52] <rsalveti> cyphermox: but after connecting with mako the route is still as before, not changed automatically (as expected)
[19:53] <cyphermox> yeah
[20:03] <AskUbuntu> Toughbook CF-C2 touch screen not detected | http://askubuntu.com/q/484226
[20:06] <elrafie> Hello
[20:06] <elrafie> hi all
[20:06] <elrafie> do ubuntu touch works in HTC one MAX
[20:07] <elrafie> do ubuntu touch works in HTC one MAX
[20:09] <elrafie> Hello
[20:09] <elrafie> do ubuntu touch works in HTC one MAX
[20:09] <elrafie> Hello
[20:09] <elrafie> do ubuntu touch works in HTC one MAX
[20:11] <popey> !devices | elrafie
[20:11] <elrafie> i found htc one
[20:11] <elrafie> but not max
[20:12] <elrafie> is one max and  one are same ?
[20:12] <elrafie> popey
[20:12] <elrafie> is one max and  one are same ?
[20:12] <elrafie> i found htc one but not max
[20:13] <popey> i have no idea
[20:13] <dobey> i'm sure he doesn't know
[20:13] <dobey> heh
[20:13] <popey> by the way, asking the same question over and over isn't useful usually
[20:13] <dobey> indeed
[20:14] <elrafie> who can answer this quesion
[20:14] <dobey> you can
[20:42] <noobfish> Hello
[20:42] <noobfish> I think about buying a Nexus 4 or 5 (my current phone broke down these days)
[20:43] <noobfish> I read that sound and bluetoth are making problems in nexus 5
[20:43] <noobfish> is this still up to date ?
[20:45] <noobfish> or in generall... is nexus 5 a bad idea ?
[20:46] <dm1ri> a bad idea in the meaning of using it for ubuntu touch or in general?
[20:47] <dm1ri> i have a question too, i still have a galaxy nexus^^ is there any way to install utopic on it? can i probaly use the armhf image?
[21:03] <noobfish> in generall it's a good phone:P i mean about ubuntu
[21:09] <robotfuel> artmello|afk: can you look at this when you have a chance, https://bugs.launchpad.net/gallery-app/+bug/1330648
[21:12] <robotfuel> artmello|afk: if it's a problem with libQt5Core or with the SDK and not the gallery-app let me know so I can assign it to the right project
[21:41] <AskUbuntu> Use Ubuntu on Tablet with mouse/keyboard? | http://askubuntu.com/q/484266
[23:13] <msvb-lab> Hi folks, got a problem after running 'dualboot.sh' and getting the /system/app/UbuntuInstaller.apk seems correct.
[23:13] <msvb-lab> ...but I see no 'Ubuntu Dualboot' icon in my apps list inside CM 10.2.1.
[23:14] <msvb-lab> Whoops, I meant Cyanogenmod 11 (not 10.2.1.)
[23:15] <msvb-lab> I just upgraded to 11 yesterday so assume this is a problem for UbuntuInstaller.apk?
[23:15] <msvb-lab> No ideas?
[23:34] <GLaDOS_> I need help!
[23:35] <GLaDOS_> I have samsung model:sm-T10R2, how do i install unbuntu????
[23:36] <sarnold> GLaDOS_: some unofficial ports are listed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[23:38] <GLaDOS_> sweet, would the Galaxy tab 2 port work even though my is a 3??
[23:39] <genii> Not sure I'd chance it.
[23:41] <GLaDOS_> oh could I brick my device?
[23:41] <GLaDOS_> I assume so
[23:41] <genii> Conceivably. And since it's not an official port, not much we could do for you here about it.
[23:42] <GLaDOS_> Thank you genii!
[23:43] <genii> GLaDOS_: You may find someone on the XDA forums that's working on it, but not listed on the official page given earlier
[23:44] <GLaDOS_> Thank you genni!! Take care!!!
[23:53] <frecel> GLaDOS_: compare the hardware elements of galaxy 2 and 3
[23:53] <frecel> GLaDOS_: if glaxy tab 3 just uses newer versions of the same hardware than I think you have some chance of making it work
[23:54] <frecel> GLaDOS_: if it doesn't then don't even bother
[23:54] <GLaDOS_> sweet Ill try it out
[23:54] <GLaDOS_> Thanks frecel!
[23:56] <GLaDOS_> http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-3-7.0,Samsung-GALAXY-Tab-2-7.0/phones/7834,6929 seems pretty close, take not where the chip type is located, on the table, there is no listing for tab2, because the field on the \left appys
[23:56] <GLaDOS_> applys
[23:56] <GLaDOS_> Id assume so?