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nhainesWell, in the grand tradition of "My computer's working very well lately; I should break it," I'm going to see if I can get Windows XP installed for a triple boot setup.  Probably on a logical partition.01:20
DonkeyHoteiwill it even run from a logical partition?01:21
nhainesOh yeah, it'll run fine.  That's not the main problem.01:21
nhainesI figured out that the system reserved partition that Windows Vista and higher create is simply there in order to ensure an active primary partition for the bootloader.01:22
DonkeyHoteiif i want to break this computer, i can just upgrade it to trusty. instant elimination of usability01:22
RoguehorseJust found out my nephew is turning down a FULL RIDE at MIT for a full ride at NC State...I want to kick his butt!01:22
nhainesIn other words, if I'd just partitioned the drive appropriately beforehand, I could've had a free partition available for XP.01:23
nhainesThe big questions now are: do I want to nuke my boot partition and resize my Win8 partition to make room for XP?  Also, do I know where my Win8 setup disc went to.01:24
akkI assume you're fully backed up before starting any of this. :)01:24
nhainesEh.  :)01:25
nhainesUbuntu is.  But there's not a lot on the Windows size.  It'd be a huge pain to lose it but it's a reinstall, Firefox, Steam, and Catalyst install, and then the Windows upgrade treadmill.  Nothing crazy.01:26
nhainesAll of this is of course only to run X-Wing: Alliance.01:27
nhainesWith hardware acceleration, anyway.01:27
josewho's going to watch GoT?01:38
DonkeyHoteinot me01:40
* ianorlin doesn't watch that01:50
nhainesNope.  Might read the books still.01:53
RoguehorseNo - I've been watching The Walking Dead on Netflix when I can and Gibson Research Company on YouTube01:56
nhainesAnd the WinXP disc locks my system so that's the end of that.  More research to follow.01:57
RoguehorseGRC - Security Now series is pretty cool01:58
DonkeyHoteieps: i plan to see you tomorrow01:58
nhainesOn the bright side, I discovered that my laptop *does* have USB 3.0 ports after all.  On the less bright side, they're not where I want them and I only have one USB 3.0 device anyway.01:58
ianorlinI was planning on having 6 on a desktop I want to build01:59
akkMy fast desktop system doesn't have usb3 but my silly little netbook does.01:59
nhainesOn the more bright side, it's a slimline USB drive, so I've got that going for me, which is nice.01:59
DonkeyHoteiis usb3 just as cpu-bound for i/o as usb2?02:00
jyonhaines: http://www.amazon.com/Apricorn-Notebook-Upgrade-Connection-ASW-USB3-25/dp/B005C983NA/02:01
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jyonhaines: The software is obviously pointless but it does works as expected[C.02:02
nhainesjyo: that's used for file recovery.  I already have a similar one.  :)02:03
nhainesSo are we having a party or what?02:04
nhainesrww, pleia2: ping  :P02:04
ianorlinrww around?02:04
Roguehorse: )02:04
nhainesDon't make me start making phone calls.  :)02:05
DonkeyHoteito jono?02:05
nhainesI can call him too.02:06
nhainesOkay, who all's here for the meeting?02:06
epso/02:06
ianorlino/02:06
DonkeyHotei/o02:07
Roguehorseo/02:07
jyoo/02:08
DonkeyHotei/o02:08
nhainesAwesome.  Okay.  Normally this is where I'd just start running the meeting, but rww want to discuss a specific topic, so it's phone call time.  I'm sure we'll be up by 19:15.  :)02:08
Roguehorsesounds good02:09
nhainesSo we'll probably discuss https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-ca/2014-June/002438.html02:13
darthrobotTitle: [[Ubuntu-US-CA] Event ideas for summer/fall]02:13
nhainesAnd of course, after we use that to stall until rww gets here, we'll chat about https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-ca/2014-June/002437.html02:13
darthrobotTitle: [[Ubuntu-US-CA] Leadership Document amendment: Decisions on non-agendized topics during IRC meetings]02:13
epsIf he doesn't show, we should table it.02:14
nhainesWe can always discuss it again.02:15
nhainesOkay, here we go.02:15
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nhainesOkay, so the agenda ended up empty this time: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/14June1502:15
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nhainesTherefore, we're just going to have some informal discussion.02:16
nhaines#topic Event ideas for summer/fall02:16
nhainesSo as you know, summer and fall are traditionally more quiet periods for the LoCo.02:16
nhainesI've been thinking about Ubuntu App Development School presentations, and I know rww has as well.02:17
DonkeyHoteiRoguehorse: with regard to your msg, he.net already hosts a lug last i knew02:17
nhainesOCLUG wants to do an installfest again in September and I'm going to talk about a bigger venue with them next Saturday.02:17
nhainesDoes anyone else have any thoughts or ideas on events we could put on?02:17
ianorlinubuntu hour somewhere?02:18
nhainesUbuntu Hours are always welcome.  But they're meant to be more informal style events.02:18
RoguehorseDonkeyHotei: They do EBLUG and SILICON Valley Web Builder but I'm sure They wouldn't mind an occasional Ubuntu event02:19
nhainesWe have a lot of members and it'd be nice to work together and do something special and fun.  :)02:19
jyoWouldn't be my first choice for venue though, given the location.02:19
DonkeyHoteijyo: the location being suboptimal for EBLUG is why BerkeleyLUG came into being02:21
RoguehorseDonkeyHotei: Ok, I have not been informed on that history so I am not aware02:22
nhainesRoguehorse, DonkeyHotei: can you please continue this after the meeting?02:22
Roguehorsenhaines: Fair02:22
DonkeyHoteinhaines: this was in response to the summer/fall events msg02:22
nhainesDonkeyHotei: you're discussing https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-ca/2014-June/002440.html ?02:24
darthrobotTitle: [[Ubuntu-US-CA] Event ideas for summer/fall]02:24
RoguehorseAFAIK - HE.net is a venue I have access to for events - Including UbuntuCA02:24
DonkeyHoteinhaines: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-ca/2014-June/002438.html02:25
darthrobotTitle: [[Ubuntu-US-CA] Event ideas for summer/fall]02:25
nhainesRoguehorse: It's definitely good to have friendly venues.02:25
Roguehorsenhaines: TY : )02:25
DonkeyHoteioops02:25
RoguehorseAs for ideas of stuff to do? DK02:26
jyoI wouldn't worry too much about event space; plenty of companies close to public transit that would be happy to have us. (I think the AdRoll release party worked out quite well.) Should focus on ideas first.02:26
DonkeyHoteinhaines: i meant https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-ca/2014-June/002440.html02:26
darthrobotTitle: [[Ubuntu-US-CA] Event ideas for summer/fall]02:26
nhainesDonkeyHotei: that's what I linked to.02:26
nhainesjyo: I tend to agree.02:26
nhainesStill, I'm glad HE was mentioned because sometimes ideas follow from venue, too.02:26
DonkeyHoteinhaines: the last link is Roguehorse suggesting he.net02:27
nhainesDonkeyHotei: yes, that's what I linked.02:27
* ianorlin thinks this is looking for ideas would be good now02:27
DonkeyHoteinhaines: sorry, misclicked, then02:28
nhainesFor any event, we would still need someone to stop up and volunteer to organize the event.  Are there any events that someone's wanted to run or be a part of that we haven't done?02:28
nhainesOr maybe something went well and you want to do it again?  :)02:28
Roguehorsejust throwing it out there, but I just installed Mudlet. Maybe we could do some kind of party around that?02:28
nhainesMUDs are all so different.  It'd be tricky to find something that was beginner-friendly and suited everyone's tastes.  :)02:29
DonkeyHoteiinstallfests can install packages, not just distros02:29
jyoWell, typically, meatspace events are more successful at attracting interested newcomers and bringing out the old guard.02:30
nhainesWe can definitely do a team thing there, but LoCo events should be focused on public Ubuntu advocacy, since that's the purpose of a LoCo Team.02:30
DonkeyHoteijyo: that depends on location, really02:30
Roguehorsenhaines: True02:30
nhainesRoguehorse: maybe we'll talk MUDs after the meeting.  :)02:31
epsThis isn't really a fully-formed idea, but I'd like to see some sort of "how to be an installfest volunteer" -- we're assuming that people come in with skills, and I don't think that's necessarily the case.02:31
Roguehorsenhaines: k02:31
ianorlinthat could help people if they find freinds they want to convert as well02:31
akkEven if they have installing/system skills, it can be confusing to know how to help people at an installfest.02:31
akkHow do you say you're one of the helpers? How do you find out who needs help?02:32
nhaineseps: another important reason to put on events is to get new members at these events to gather experience.02:32
RoguehorseSo like "INstallfest Training Seminar?"02:32
epsRoguehorse: yeah02:32
Roguehorsecould be cool02:32
DonkeyHoteieps: i think there is the beginnings of that somewhere in the Linux Documentation Project02:32
nhainesIt was fully my intention to do some installfest training at the last one, but it didn't work out so well.  Not enough time.02:32
nhainesDonkeyHotei: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/text/Installfest-HOWTO is very helpful.02:32
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Roguehorselike a training class....we could build an outline and everyone follows along02:33
DonkeyHoteieps: what nhaines said02:33
nhainesWould anyone be interested in a Google Hangouts online session, maybe?02:33
* ianorlin would02:33
Roguehorsewe could do something like that02:33
jyoYeah, Installfest Training feels more like a Google Hangouts session going over some common points before an event than an event in itself.02:33
nhainesI have an "Advocacy for Advocates" presentation that I need to push to people.ubuntu.com that's a good start, too.  Better than nothing.02:34
nhainesjyo: I'd *prefer* to do it in person, but we're so small and geographically scattered that online would probably be better.02:34
RoguehorseI think I like where this is going : )02:34
nhainesAnd as long as we're doing that, maybe we can steal #ubuntu-classroom or #ubuntu-meeting and do something bigger than just California.02:35
RoguehorseWe should combine the event as a local "in person" combined as a MOOC02:35
DonkeyHoteiif anyone objects to google hangouts, a guy at noisebridge demonstrated https://sylaps.com/02:35
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jyoThat feels like something someone at Noisebridge would object to.02:36
nhainesDonkeyHotei: Thanks for that.  Alternatives are good.02:36
nhainesOkay, so I like that idea.  Let's discuss it and develop it further.02:36
DonkeyHoteinote: it was demonstrated by its creator02:36
Roguehorsejyo: can't please everyone02:36
nhaineseps: do you feel like bringing it to the mailing list or shall I?02:36
ianorlinalthough timezones come into effect if it is online but that should be disscussed later02:37
epsnhaines: all yours02:37
nhainesWe have a lot of veteran event organizers in this LoCo and the more training we get the better people will feel about volunteering, I hope.  :)02:37
nhaineseps: okay, I'll do that then.02:37
nhaines#action Raise discussion for an "Installfest volunteer training" online class on the Ubuntu California mailing list.02:38
darthrobotACTION: Raise discussion for an "Installfest volunteer training" online class on the Ubuntu California mailing list.02:38
nhainesAll right, any other event ideas?02:38
nhainesAll right, then.  What does everybody think about Ubuntu App Dev schools?02:39
DonkeyHoteii agree that ubuntu phone is a worthwhile agenda for such02:40
* ianorlin is mildly interested personally but thinks other people probably are more interested than I am02:40
RoguehorseI like the phone app idea but I think it's limited02:41
epsWhat are the prerequisites?02:42
nhainesPretty much someone who has some idea of app development and a venue where people can plug in laptops.02:42
RoguehorseI like the Dev School idea though - I'm always big on Dev Ed02:42
epsI mean, if you expect people to be comfortable with Qt you need to teach Qt first.02:43
RoguehorseQt is very cool but I've only dabbled with it. I would definitely be down on getting deeper into it with others though : )02:44
nhainesOh, gotcha.  No prequisites.  The presentations basically run down what an Ubuntu app is and some of the tools, and then presumably you'd lead everyone in a demo building an app.02:44
nhainesUbuntu apps use QML.02:44
ianorlinsort of like Richard Gaskins live code at Ubucon?02:44
DonkeyHoteiQt would be cuter without all the c++02:45
nhainesThey also use Javascript, not C++.  Unless you already know C++.02:45
nhainesianorlin: I literally don't remember anything about Ubucon other than that I harassed Jono during his talk.  :)02:45
nhainesOkay, we'll have to figure out more about the App Development School idea.  I'll probably talk to rww and see where he is about that.02:46
DonkeyHoteior where he is, period02:47
nhainesThat brings us to the next topic.02:47
nhaines#topic Leadership Document amendment: Decisions on non-agendized topics during IRC meetings02:47
nhaineshttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-ca/2014-June/002437.html02:47
darthrobotTitle: [[Ubuntu-US-CA] Leadership Document amendment: Decisions on non-agendized topics during IRC meetings]02:47
nhainesIt's been suggested that the LoCo should formally adopt a time limit before meetings.02:48
DonkeyHoteithere is really no reason to'02:48
nhainesAfter that time limit, no item placed on the meeting agenda will be actionable.  That is, it can be discussed but no action may be voted on that will commit the LoCo for or against a topic.02:48
ianorlinnot sure if it gets put on last second could not be discussed02:49
nhainesDonkeyHotei: the reason is that in the past, topics have been added minutes before the meeting, and then votes have been called.  This makes it very difficult for all stakeholders to be present during the discussion.02:49
DonkeyHoteiah, ok02:49
nhainesianorlin: no one's suggesting that.02:49
ianorlinargh worded that badly02:50
nhainesPlus, sometimes items have been added for discussion and the adders have been accused of trying to push discussion through, too.02:50
nhainesSo this amendment would make it clear that last-minute agenda items wouldn't be actionable.02:50
RoguehorseI like having agendas - and sticking to them - then open discussion after02:51
nhainesAn "action" would mean formal voting, adoption of position statements, disbursement of LoCo funds, and other significant decisions like that.02:51
DonkeyHoteihow about 8pm the preceding friday?02:51
nhainesThe proposed amendement puts the deadline at 7pm the preceeding Friday.02:52
nhainesOr rather to say, 48 hours before the meeting.02:52
DonkeyHoteirush hour ends at 7pm on weekdays02:52
DonkeyHoteii propose adding an extra hour for that reason02:52
nhainesand by 7pm Friday, many already have their weekends planned.02:52
ianorlinis one hour really that big a deal in the time frame?02:53
nhaines#idea Allow agenda topics to be added on Friday evenings.02:54
nhainesDoes anyone have any thoughts on that?02:54
Roguehorse36hr cut-off might be better02:55
jyoIt's a two week timeframe. 48 hours before (i.e. 7p) should be fine.02:55
epsChange 48 hours to 72 hours02:55
nhaines#idea 36-hour cutoff instead of 48-hour cutoff.02:55
nhaines#idea 72-hour cutoff instead of 48-hour cutoff.02:55
DonkeyHoteiRoguehorse: many people will not notice something added on a weekend02:56
DonkeyHoteieps: again, rush hour02:56
epsDonkeyHotei: don't wait until the last minute02:56
ianorlinyou don't have to add it at the deadline02:57
RoguehorseDonkeyHotei: Gives time through Friday night after rush-hour to put in last minute thoughts02:57
DonkeyHoteiRoguehorse: whether thurs or fri, 8pm can accomplish that02:58
jyoMaybe we should predicate all our timing decisions on local traffic conditions.02:58
DonkeyHoteijyo: it's a big state02:59
Roguehorsejyo: Yeah, define "local"?02:59
nhainesjyo: well, I don't think it's unreasonable to think about these things when we discuss events.02:59
nhainesSo it's definitely worth bringing up.03:00
nhainesIs anyone opposed to a restriction such as the one proposed?03:00
ianorlinno not opposed to the restriction03:00
Roguehorseno oppositions03:01
epsWe have a restriction -- all of the proposals are for lengthening it.03:01
DonkeyHoteii am not opposed in general, just have reservations about the exact cutoff03:01
nhainesDo we have a restriction?03:01
eps24 hours03:01
jyoSet one and then walk it forward as necessary.03:01
nhaineseps: That's not in the leadership document.  Do you have a source?03:02
epsIt's been the established convention03:02
DonkeyHoteithe proposal is to codify03:02
nhainesThe leaders are looking to codify this restriction.03:03
ianorlinwhich makes sense03:03
rwwoh, howdy03:03
nhainesOkay.  Everyone seems in favor of having a restriction.  At least, no one's opposed to it.03:03
rwwapparently 7pm happened03:03
nhainesOh hey rww03:03
rwwsorry :[03:03
DonkeyHoteiit happened an hour ago03:04
nhainesrww: it's okay, I remembered how to bot.03:04
epsbot is a verb now?03:04
* ianorlin needs to get his dad dinner03:04
rwwelky distracted me with amazing food03:04
nhaineseps: http://www.languagetrainers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/calvinverbing.jpg03:05
DonkeyHoteieps: it's not a verb how google is not a verb03:05
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nhainesFor the official meeting record.  :P03:05
nhainesrww: I find this an acceptable excuse.03:05
rwwanyways, I just read scrollback for this topic. We're fine with a timing restriction, just not sure what the length should be?03:05
ianorlin yes03:06
nhainesOkay, does anyone think the time limit should be extended back from the meeting from Friday, or pushed forward to Saturday?03:06
* eps thought "xerox" was the only thing you couldn't verb03:06
nhainesrww: pretty much.03:06
Roguehorse'bout03:06
rwwI figure we set it to 48 hours and see how it goes. If you want something on the agenda, you have two weeks to do it. If you are able to show up for a meeting on Sunday but can't read an agenda all of Sunday or Saturday, or Friday evening, your schedule is odd.03:07
Roguehorseso far we have: 24, 36, 48 and 72 hr proposals03:07
rwwAnd anyways, it's not getting decided on today. If the only point of contention is the time period, yay.03:07
elky48 is fairly typical03:07
DonkeyHoteiRoguehorse: add mine of 4703:07
nhainesRoguehorse: also 23-hour proposals.03:07
ianorlin47 hours as well I think03:07
nhainesAlso I meant 47.03:07
Roguehorseah geez!03:08
epsn is n-m with an m grace period ;-)03:08
epsor something like that03:08
nhainesNo grace periods, please.  :)03:08
epsn+m maybe03:08
nhainesIf there's a grace period, just make *that* the time limit.03:08
Roguehorse23, 24, 36, 47, 48 and 72 hr proposals03:08
DonkeyHoteiand i responded to the 72 with 7103:08
nhainesWell I was going to call for a vote on this but now rww's here so he'll catch me.03:09
Roguehorseand to think I'm missing the Gong Show for this!03:09
nhainesBut it's good to know that we're all in general agreement, anyway.03:09
rwwI specified the meeting two weeks from today for voting on the actual amendment.03:09
Roguehorse: P03:09
ianorlinah yeah vote on it then03:10
* ianorlin goes to get his dad dinner03:10
nhainesMight be good to take it back to the mailing list, then.  Any other comments on this before we wrap it up?03:10
rwwThis is because voting on something that I proposed today that would ban voting on something that I proposed today is a bit too funny for me.03:10
nhainesrww: it's the entire reason I wanted to call the vote.  :)03:10
rwwlol03:10
rwwI like you, you should run for u-us-ca council03:10
rwwanyway03:10
DonkeyHoteirww: so two weeks minus 24 hours of more numbers are allowed?03:10
rwwDonkeyHotei: enoparse03:11
nhainesBut right, the discussion topic was intended to be an informal discussion and not actionable at this meeting.03:11
epsCIVS, here we come.03:11
DonkeyHoteirww: don't worry, parsing stuff i say isn't something everyone can do03:12
nhainesrww can actionate it next time.  :P03:12
rwwactionize **03:12
nhainesALL SYSTEMS ACTIONATED03:12
nhainesOkay, so I think that's about it for this topic, then.03:12
* rww nods03:12
nhaines#topic Miscellaneous03:13
nhainesAnything else before we wrap it up?03:13
rwwsensible proposals for alternate time frames (or other amendment improvements) welcome on mailing list03:13
nhainesrww: I'm sorry, we've already moved on.03:13
rwwnhaines: network lag, clearly03:13
RoguehorseLOL - schooled : P03:13
rwwnhaines: blame jyo03:13
nhainesThis whole channel is out of order!03:13
nhaineshaha, we'll call it lag.  :)03:13
rwwI think we should start deciding who's going to do post-meeting stuff at the end of the meeting.03:14
rwwI nominate nhaines.03:14
nhaines#vote Should rww do all the post-meeting stuff at the end of meetings?03:14
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DonkeyHoteispeaking of lag, what's rww's take on summer/fall events as discussed?03:14
nhainesToo bad we don't have that 48-hour rule thing right?  Also I don't think I know how to end the voting.03:14
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rww#endvote03:15
rwwwhich I can't do because not chair03:15
rwwbecause coup or something03:15
rww-503:15
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nhainesOVERRULED!03:15
nhaines#endvote03:15
darthrobotVoting ended on: Should rww do all the post-meeting stuff at the end of meetings?03:15
darthrobotVotes for:1 Votes against:1 Abstentions:103:15
darthrobotDeadlock, casting vote may be used03:15
nhainesYou win this time, rww!03:15
elkythe casting vote by who?03:15
* nhaines shakes fist.03:15
* eps cackles03:16
rwwelky: me, as the only member of the oligarchy currently present03:16
rwwWith my casting vote, I vote for systemd as default Debian init system.03:16
rwwNo wait.03:16
rwwanyway03:16
elkyyou vote systemd for president, we get it03:16
rwwI vote elky does the post-meeting tasks03:16
elkywat03:16
nhainesCasting vote accepted.  Congrats, elky!03:17
rwwelky: there is a checklist and everything, and you love moin so much03:17
elkyi already made you dinner, what is this03:17
nhaineselky: next time he demands medium-rare cook temps.03:17
rwwelky: I'm balancing out the patriarchy.03:17
rwwnhaines: #endmeeting plz :P03:17
epsIt's Fathers' Day.03:17
rwwDonkeyHotei: I'll take a look later; I was in the middle of something before elky noted we failed at alarm.03:18
RoguehorseThat got scary for a while : |03:18
nhainesOkay, so I think we did pretty good for an informal meeting.  Couple of event suggestion ideas, a beginning concensus on the agenda thing.03:18
DonkeyHoteielky didn't even answer as present for the meeting03:18
nhainesSee everyone here in two weeks, and also immediately following the meeting.  Thanks to everyone for their time.  :)03:18
nhaines#endmeeting03:18
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RoguehorseDo we have to start over?03:18
nhainesRoguehorse: yes.  That meeting was just practice.03:18
Roguehorse\o/03:19
rwwelky: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/MeetingChecklist03:19
elkygoddammit i request a deferral until the no-railroading thing is settled03:19
darthrobotTitle: [CaliforniaTeam/MeetingChecklist - Ubuntu Wiki]03:19
rwwoh, /op != /opup03:19
rwwelky: there you go, now you can do all the checklist, glhf03:19
elkynoooo03:19
epsBest. Meeting. Ever.03:20
RoguehorseBeing a new guy you miss out on all the inside jokes - kinda sucks03:21
rwwRoguehorse: there were no inside jokes, we're just a bit silly03:21
rwwnot usually that silly03:21
nhainesBut it is a holiday after all.03:21
RoguehorseI had fun, glad I got to be here and not stuck in History homework03:21
nhainesWell that's definitely a plus.  :)03:22
jyooh what fun you have on the IRC!03:22
nhainesrww: pleia2's going to have kittens when she sees the log.  :P03:22
RoguehorseYes, a lively bunch : P03:22
rwwnhaines: ikr03:22
nhainesRoguehorse: so how do you feel about the Discworld MUD?03:23
Roguehorsenhaines: I haven't had the chance to fire it up yet03:27
RoguehorseBut, I've thought about writing something along the same context as a project so I was excited to see it in the repos03:28
RoguehorseWhen I was in JR High (before GUI times) all our games were text based03:29
nhainesI had plenty of graphical games but Rogue for PC captivated me.03:29
nhainesHalf the reason I run Linux is so I could play nethack.  :P03:30
RoguehorseThese are all text based?03:30
RoguehorseI'm still a table-top D&D guy (started in 1979)03:31
nhainesYou've... never heard of Rogue or nethack?03:31
Roguehorseno - much of this is new to me03:32
nhainesOkay, well, 'sudo apt-get install nethack-console' and you're all set.03:35
nhainesAnd that's the last anyone ever heard of Roguehorse.  RIP in peace.03:35
RoguehorseI've only been on Linux since 2009 and most around me don't even use their computers to the degree I do03:35
nhainesNethack basically looks like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NetHack#mediaviewer/File:Nethack_releasing_a_djinni.png03:36
darthrobotTitle: [NetHack - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia]03:36
nhainesIt's a turn-based dungeon crawler.  Basically anything you can think of to do is in the game.03:36
nhainesIt's a rogue-like game.  Procedurally generated, random seed every game.03:37
Roguehorseinstalling03:37
nhainesFiendishly difficult.03:37
nhainesYou'll probably like it.  :)03:37
RoguehorseLOL : )03:37
nhainesIt's basically a procedural hero death simulator.03:38
RoguehorseRogue-like has no meaning to me (unfrotunately)03:38
Roguehorseok03:38
nhainesRoguehorse: that's why I mentioned it.  Context will soon fill in the rest.03:38
jyoif you want it in space then FTL. :)03:39
Roguehorseuncursed? Really? LOL03:40
nhainesAlso a roguelike hero death simulator.03:40
nhainesRoguehorse: really  :)03:40
Roguehorsejyo: In space??03:40
epsThat03:42
epsThat's your next Ubuntu App: You are eaten by a grue ... in space03:42
nhainesFTL is another roguelike: http://www.ftlgame.com/03:43
darthrobotTitle: [FTL: Faster Than Light]03:43
nhainesYou can buy it from the Ubuntu Software Center or from Steam.03:43
Roguehorsehah. . so find the Amulet of Yendor huh?03:43
nhainesMy favorite part was when they added another 20% of content to FTL and then just released it as an update free.  Also it's clear now I'll never beat the game.03:44
nhainesRoguehorse: Amulet of Yendor.  happy hunting.03:44
RoguehorseHmm : P03:44
epsYou want it, you know you want it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/GameNights03:46
darthrobotTitle: [CaliforniaTeam/Projects/GameNights - Ubuntu Wiki]03:46
Roguehorseeps: I saw that a while back03:48
Roguehorsewhat's up with that?03:48
epsIt was proposed; it's been languishing for years03:49
RoguehorseYay - Roguehorse the Elven Ranger!03:49
RoguehorseLets press it forward ... What's the idea?03:49
Roguehorsebrb - bath time for my son03:50
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Roguehorsek04:03
nhainesThat was quick.  Did you dip him in en route to a towel?04:07
pleia2nhaines: thanks for chairing (I'm in Croatia this week, so the timing wasn't great, it's 6:30am here right now)04:28
nhainespleia2: my pleasure!04:28
DonkeyHoteilikely everyone there watching world cup04:29
nhainespleia2: it *might* have gotten a little silly by the end.04:30
pleia2DonkeyHotei: yeah, it's a big deal over here04:30
DonkeyHoteiyou should ask what's their world cup size04:31

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