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JujuLoshki» this web doesn't charge00:01
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orbitaldecayIf anyone is interested in helping me test an IRC pvp bot I wrote in python, jump in #fightbot00:02
JujuLoshki» yes, this information is the same i can read when i try to use the terminal program00:02
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orbitaldecayJuju: My bad, I'm going to set up a different room00:04
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herballyhello all, my system is very freshly installed. today it happened 3 times that when I selected it in grub (I have another OS on device) it went into recovery menu, where I selected normal boot, which then ended up with an altered desktop (what I noticed were bigger launcher icons). at the last time recovery menu appeared I selected 'repair broken'..though during desktop sessions everything ran without any error messages.00:15
herballyso now I first had a screen that says 'Continuing will remount your / filesystem..' and under it a command line with fsck..and for a minute now the screen went blank with backlight00:17
herballyshould I presume all is ok?00:18
jellowherbally, you quit fsck from recovery menu through ctrl-alt backspace00:19
herballyjellow, it didnt work00:19
herballyjellow, but ctrl+alt+del now did.. it is rebooting00:20
herballyit went into recovery menu again00:20
jellowherbally, try fsck again it should report everything is fine.00:21
herballyjellow, you mean this one, right:  fsck :  check all file systems ?00:22
jellowherbally, yes00:23
kenjanybody alive?00:23
Snickerznope00:23
herballyjellow, same screen as a minute ago, so I should wait while it is checking file systems, and then it detects any broken?00:24
kenjInstalled lubuntu on an old Gateway laptop and after a couple days of tinkering, everything is working except for suspend.00:24
kenjThe drive sda disappears and ext4fs freaks out.00:24
jellowherbally, yes give it a little while,  You do not have network shares in fstab do you?00:25
jellowfsck in recovery mode tries to mount everything in fstab if it is unreachable then it will get stuck.00:26
fizy[laptop]is it possible and/or advisable to connect a harddrive via SATA while the system is running?00:26
herballyjellow, no00:27
kenjfizy yes. SATA is hot pluggable.00:27
herballyjellow, I mean, I dont know what you mean, but did nothing with fstab00:27
kenjfizy just not your boot drive00:27
kenjfizy make sure you sync and unmount before unplugging too00:28
fizy[laptop]kenj really? i heard that would cause a kernel panic. im asking because my system wont boot with my primary drive connected (the power surged and now it clicks). i want to boot via cd and hot plug it and see if i can get ANYTHING from like gparted or something00:29
histoAnyone mind testing a bug with dc3dd?00:31
kenjfizy you shouldn't need to hotplug in that case. on bootup, hit the F[something key] to select boot options. Select CD/DVD and boot.00:31
fizy[laptop]kenj i know, but it cant get past POST. it hangs on "auto detecting SATA #1"00:31
amzoltAnyone know how to fix KDE's Kontact when it crashes when trying to configure it?00:32
kenjfizy: Sounds like you're kind of screwed then. You can try hot plug but if doesn't enumerate via BIOS, it is not likely to be detected during hotplu.00:33
fizy[laptop]kenj i know im kind of screwed. i was just hoping that gparted or dd could give me something. i know its a long shot00:35
Joe_knockHello00:39
Joe_knockI ran this command while I am SSH from 1 linux PC to another: sudo mv *.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/ , how do I then upgrade my packages after this?00:40
zykotick9Joe_knock: do you mean ubuntu-version upgrade?  regular upgrade would be, "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrace"00:42
zykotick9s/upgrace/upgrade/00:42
Joe_knockis it: sudo apt-get install update or just sudo apt-get update? I am on 12.04 LTS00:43
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zykotick9Joe_knock: "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" as i said before...00:43
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histoJoe_knock: update just receives a list of packages from the server00:43
histoJoe_knock: ugprade actually upgrades the packages.00:44
knkopl00:44
Joe_knockFrom the last time I was here, it was explained that the above command (sudo mv *.deb) would move cached updated copies from the updated machine to the machine requiring updates.00:44
zykotick9Joe_knock: fyi, dist-upgrade means "full-upgrade" BTW.00:44
Joe_knockhisto: based on the fact that I've moved upgraded .deb files to the older machine, do I need to run update first before upgrade?00:44
histoJoe_knock: Why are you trying to upgrade in this manner?00:45
Joe_knockhisto: upgrades take long, so I am attempting to simply push cached copies from the updated machine to the older machine and letting these updates happen in 2/3 minutes00:46
kenjhe's probably trying to avoid the double download00:46
Joe_knockkenj: Correct!00:46
zykotick9apt-cacher-ng FTW ;)00:46
kenjyou can set up a machine to cache the files and problem solved.00:47
histoJoe_knock: then upgrade or dist-upgrade is what you want00:47
CorvetteWhen I Log into Unity, the screen configuration is correct. But when I log into Gnome, it isn't. Can someone tell me how to fix this00:47
histoCorvette: what do you mean by screen configuration?00:48
Corvettethe arrangement00:48
Corvetteof monitors00:48
Joe_knockhisto, kenj: I've gotten as far as successfully sudo mv *.deb , but when I run sudo apt-get install upgrade from a new terminal, I get: E: Unable to locate package upgrade00:48
histoJoe_knock: sudo apt-get upgrade00:49
Joe_knockaah apart from the google plugin, success!!! :D00:49
zykotick9Joe_knock: that's because it's NOT, "apt-get install upgrade", it's just "sudo apt-get upgrade", but again, i'd use dist-upgrade if you want to upgrade everything (kernel included)00:50
knkopjellow, sorry, I was disconnected..we just talked about fsck running in recovery mode..it is still continuing..should I better leave it running and go to bed? :)00:50
Joe_knockzykotick9: Both machines run 12.04 LTS, so a full upgrade won't help.00:50
zykotick9Joe_knock: well, good luck with whatever-it-is you're doing... i obviously don't understand00:51
kenjzyk: he's not upgrading his distro from X to Y00:52
jellowknkop, how long has it been running and how large is your partition/s ?00:52
zykotick9!dist-upgrade | kenj00:52
ubottukenj: A dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. This will not bring you to a new release of Ubuntu, see !upgrade if that is your intention.00:52
kenjzyk: he wants to upgrade his distro from X.0 to X.100:52
zykotick9!tab | kenj00:52
ubottukenj: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.00:52
knkopjellow, if it's not checking the whole disk, but only the partition, then 100GB, and it's been over 15 min.00:53
knkopI think00:53
Joe_knockI don't understand why it is downloading the stuff :-/00:53
jellowknkop, should not take too long to complete if you can leave it an hour or so , all night is probably excessive hah00:54
daftykinsJoe_knock: i use the exact method you describe to update two VMs, i first scp the .deb's from the source (first downloader) to the target's home, then SSH into there and move them into /var/cache/apt/archives/00:55
Joe_knockdaftykins: I am following your instructions from previously :D00:55
daftykinsJoe_knock: on a run of my favourite "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" i see a download size of 0B/$total00:55
daftykinsoh no! not past daftykins D:00:56
knkopjellow, thank you, I have an idea now :)00:56
Joe_knockdaftykins: I am attempting the sudo mv *.deb command, what type of output should I expect?00:57
daftykinsJoe_knock: so the destination system that has had the .deb's transferred to /home/username/ would run "sudo mv ~/*.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/" which would complete without output, then running the above update and dist-upgrade would function perfectly00:59
Joe_knockdaftykins: So I needed to run update as well!!00:59
daftykinsJoe_knock: yes indeed, because without updated package lists, your destination system doesn't know that the new versions placed in .../archives/ are relevant :)01:01
dv310p3rI'm running Ubuntu in Virtualbox and I'm trying to make it my primary OS. I've got my Mac home directory shared to the ubuntu guest. I'd like to turn that folder into my ubuntu home directory. How can I do that. The shared folder is in /media/sf_myusername/01:01
Joe_knocksudo mv ~/*.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/ is different to your previous command, which was: sudo mv *.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/01:02
cfhowlettdv310p3r primary OS?  you should investigate dual booting01:02
cfhowlett!dualboot01:02
ubottuDual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot01:02
daftykinsJoe_knock: all it does is use an absolutely instead of relative path01:02
daftykinsdv310p3r: macs can run ubuntu. why not install it natively instead of virtualising?01:02
dv310p3rcfhowlett, I've been on that mission for a few days now, dual booting isn't the way to go for me just yet.01:02
Joe_knockso if I say: sudo mv ~/install_files/*.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/, will this work too?01:03
Joe_knockdaftykins: ^^01:03
cfhowlettdv310p3r noted01:03
tomenglandis there any benefit to updating the kernel to 3.1501:03
tomenglandon 14.0401:03
dv310p3rcfhowlett, daftykins so any ideas?01:04
tomenglandonly benefit i could see is to get access to the iwlwifi 7260.901:04
zykotick9tomengland: do you have some brand new hardware that's currently unsupported by the default kerenel?  if so, then possibly - if not, probably not.01:04
Joe_knockdv310p3r: Wubi is your next best option if you dont want a dualboot.01:04
daftykinsJoe_knock: if they're in that folder, yes01:05
zykotick9Joe_knock: wubi isn't a good suggestion...01:05
cfhowlettdv310p3r you're going to find it near impossible to make your VBox OS your PRIMARY os, as vbox always relies on the host OS to boot.  In your case, no OSX = no Vbox.  thus my suggestion to vbox.  and wubi doesn't like OSX, nor is it supported any more01:05
daftykinsJoe_knock: yeah we don't talk of WUBI these days, it's akin to computer suicide01:05
cfhowlettdv310p3r "suggestion to dualboot"01:05
tomenglandzykotick9: true, no not really.01:05
dv310p3rcfhowlett, I appreciate the advise, I really would just like to know if what I asked is possible / how can I do it?01:06
cfhowlettdv310p3r the way you've described it?  VBox ubuntu = primary OS?  nope01:06
Joe_knockdaftykins: wait, I am unclear about the actual command now. The first part of: *.deb is the host part, right? Then /var/cache/apt/archives/ is my destination folder?01:06
dv310p3rReally just need to know how I can make the shared folder in /media/sf_username/ my ubuntu home directory01:07
cfhowlettdv310p3r reasonably sure that's possible, but I've not yet played on a Mac.01:08
Joe_knockdaftykins: I know wubi isn't a great option, but it is convenient for the OP. then again, cfhowlett has indicated that macs dont play nice with wubi01:08
zykotick9!movehome | dv310p3r01:08
ubottudv310p3r: Your home directory is where all of your personal files are usually kept. For moving your home directory to a separate partition, please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving01:08
dv310p3rDoesn't need to be done on the mac, I'd need to do it in Ubuntu.01:08
daftykinsJoe_knock: indeed they do not, but we frown upon WUBI 100% as it's just such a nightmare to assist with when things go wrong... and boy do they go wrong :)01:09
daftykinsJoe_knock: it's a two step process. have you used scp on the command line much before?01:09
jo-erlenddv310p3r, usermod dv310p3r -d /media/sf_username, I think.01:09
cfhowlettdv310p3r see the !home factoid above01:09
jo-erlenddv310p3r, where dv310p3r obviously is your username.01:09
Joe_knockdaftykins: This is my original SCP command on the updated machine: sudo scp /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb client@hostname:. (something tells me that "." after the ":" is where I went wrong)01:10
jo-erlenddv310p3r, test on a new user to make sure.01:10
kenjdv3 edit your fstab and mount it there.01:10
dv310p3rjo-erlend, thanks.01:11
daftykinsJoe_knock: hang on PM me, it's tough to talk about this one with channel movement01:11
kenjdv310p3r: I usually just mount it in a sub under my user home.01:11
cfhowlettdv310p3r personally, I wouldn't let my vbox files touch my host OS, but that's just me   :)01:11
dv310p3rkenj, actually, that's a good idea.01:11
Joe_knockdv310p3r: Another option is "boot from USB", but for that too, it isn't meant for a perpetual linux install01:12
jo-erlenddv310p3r, it is also possible to use a physical disk as backing for a VM if you want something between dualboot and VM. But you have to be really careful if you do that so that you're not using the disk from both the host and guest at the same time.01:14
jo-erlenddv310p3r, for instance, I have a dualboot setup with Windows and Ubuntu and while running Windows, I can boot my Ubuntu install as a VM and then later reboot to the Ubuntu install in order to get the native experience.01:15
jo-erlend... but as I said, you have to be really careful when you do that.01:15
JimJonescould someone help to compile a custom header on gcc?01:16
JimJonesi have the header.h in the same folder01:17
JimJonesProjeto.l:5:25: fatal error: Projeto.tab.h: No such file or directory01:17
JimJones  #include "constantes.h"01:17
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rettophi01:18
mojtabaIs there anyone here who could tell me why should I use screen command when I could create new terminals in different tabs in ubuntu?01:18
rettopI'm on 12.04 LTS. Just opened my computer and my mouse is clicking things automatically just by hovering over them01:18
Joe_knockdv310p3r: As explained previously by some of the folks here. You can make 2 OSes live on 2 different hard-disks, but you need "grub" to be on the main OS, or something complicated like that.01:18
rettopand whatever gets selected , the system will open that up repeatedly. (hundreds, it seems)01:19
rettopI unplugged my mouse, keyboard, and put in a new wired mouse, and it does the same thing01:19
rettopi cant' click anything properly01:19
dwxreapermojtaba: you could use screen so someone remotely could see what you type on the terminal01:20
dwxreaperor tmux01:20
wheatthinmojtaba, screen is used in situations where you need to switch to a different workstation and need to easily bring a background process to the foreground01:20
zykotick9mojtaba: sidenote, personally i'd use tmux over screen, but YMMV01:20
dv310p3rJoe_knock, Thanks, to all those who really want me to dual boot. I spent two days trying. Between, refit, refind, EFI booting, GPT vs MBR, etc... I wanted to blow my head off. After finally getting 14.04 installed (after failing to get 12.04 installed) it was way to buggy on my Mac 9,1. There is little to no specifics about this model.01:21
mojtabawheatthin: You mean I have initiated a terminal in one computer and then I can have it in another computer?01:21
mojtabazykotick9: what is the difference?01:21
zykotick9mojtaba: don't worry about it, screen is fine :)01:22
somsipmojtaba: connect to server, start tmux, start long running process, disconnect. Connect later, reconnect to tmux, make sure process has completed. Rinse and repeat01:22
dv310p3rSo, I finally gave up. Decided my next best solution would be to give 8 gbs and 4 processes of my laptop to the VM and see how that works till I can get rid of my SHITTY mac.01:22
Joe_knockdv310p3r: I feel your pain. Feel free to keep asking, as we'll all chip in to help you.01:22
dv310p3rJoe_knock, thanks.01:22
kenjdv310p3r: What's wrong with your OS X out of curiousity?01:22
somsip!ot | kenj01:23
ubottukenj: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!01:23
Joe_knockdv310p3r: How much RAM are you using? :O01:23
rettopi think it might be hoverclick that turned on, but how can i turn it off without the ability to click anything???01:23
rettopand it doesn't happen at login, only afterwards01:24
rettopso it's something ubuntu-related01:24
daftykinsdv310p3r: silly question, but you were using the ISO with "mac" in the name, yeah?01:25
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dv310p3rdaftykins, yes01:26
dv310p3rkenj, I HATE OSX!01:27
rettopanyone have any idea what's going on?01:27
rettopif i click something, whatever is clicked stays selected and ubuntu keeps trying to open it01:28
ethanhI have accidentally removed a partition with (parted) rm #. can anyone help me to restore my partition table?01:28
dv310p3rkenj, I'm a web dev, and for the last year i've been in management. Need to get back to developing. Anyways, was using a mac, but before that when I was developing I always used linux, just lost my touch this last year and hafl01:28
dv310p3rJoe_knock, got 16 total, giving 8 to the VM.01:28
Joe_knockdv310p3r: How is that a shitty Mac? I live on 1GB :-/ :-/01:28
historettop: the disability menu at the login screen maybe?01:28
dv310p3rJoe_knock, LOL. I guess it's all relative.01:29
rettophisto, what about it?01:29
Joe_knockwith 8GB of RAM, the vbox VM could run smoothly01:29
dv310p3rJoe_knock, I just love the flexibility and ease of a PC. I can run Linux without any issues.01:29
dv310p3rJoe_knock, it is.01:29
kenjweird how Firefox is faster than chromium on Lubuntu.01:30
Joe_knockkenj: Opening up more than 5 tabs on chromium causes havoc on my system.01:30
kenjYeah. It's weird. I prefer chrome on every other platform.01:31
historettop: see if there is something turned on in there regarding mouse01:31
rettophisto, will do01:32
rettophisto, doesn't look like it01:33
rettophisto, i actually can't even use my computer , i'm losing my mind01:33
historettop: what were you doing before this all happened?01:34
rettopnothing, i think01:35
rettophisto, i'm one of those install - and don't change anything for 5 years kind of user01:35
rettophisto, like, until i get a stable system. then i just don't change a bloody thing. this happened on its own01:35
historettop: is the mouse possibly going bad?01:35
rettophisto, i changed it01:35
historettop: what is the behavior it's doing?01:36
jwcalderonhi everybody01:36
jwcalderoni had a question about Ubuntu 14.04 and a web camera logitech C92001:36
rettophisto, right now, i'm at the login screen and the mouse is fine01:36
rettophisto, i'm using the onscreen keyboard to type in my password and it clicks properly01:36
jwcalderonit's possible to get help ?01:37
tomenglandhow do i make an app only open in x workspace?01:37
tomenglandand not the workspace i'm currently in01:37
rettophisto, just changed mice again and it works01:38
rettophisto, i don't even think it's a mouse issue man. could it be a motherboard issue?01:38
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historettop: that's odd.01:39
kenjWhat kind of mouse? USB?01:39
Snickerztomengland: you can use CompizConfig Settings01:39
Snickerzunder window management01:40
rettopkenj, just tried a wireless USB and a wired USB01:40
kenjrettop: If you suspect mb. Plus into a different port like the front vs the back, etc. Doesn't sound like it, though.01:40
kenjplug*01:40
rettopthis is nuts01:40
kenjSounds like a software issue tbh.01:40
tomenglandhmm i don't see that application Snickerz01:41
Snickerzsearch for it in software center01:41
zykotick9!ccsm | tomengland01:41
ubottutomengland: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' (or 'simple-ccsm' for pre-Oneiric). If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz01:41
tomenglandty01:42
rettopfuck me01:44
rettopanyway, thanks guys. this is ridiculous01:45
The_HelpSomeone01:47
knoppixnvidea02:02
texlahi02:22
daftykinshi02:22
texlaTry to add themes to unity- tweak-tool.ask ubuntu only has answers on my unity in 12.0402:24
Snickerzexit02:25
Beldartexla, that app was not in 12.04, try this. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=unity-tweak-tool+14.0402:27
Beldartexla, 14.04 is what you're running?02:28
texlaBeldar, Yes a new full install of 14.04..that article in ask ubuntu I had already seen does not apply02:31
Beldartexla, As of yet you have not given any actual description so all we can do is guess.02:36
Beldarand that was not an article but a page relating to the tool and 14.0402:37
Beldar!unity-tweak-tool02:40
texlaBeldar, I want to add themes to the appearance catagory in settings or to themes in unity-tweaks-tools I have downloaded from synaptic gtk2-engines-cleanice ..nothing happens no changes02:40
zykotick9!info unity-tweak-tool02:41
ubottuunity-tweak-tool (source: unity-tweak-tool): configuration tool for the Unity desktop environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.6ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 325 kB, installed size 2549 kB02:41
trismtexla: and engine is not a theme, themes use engines02:42
texlatrism, Okay that answers the engine use02:43
basketballActionParsnip, can you help me with the printer sharing02:56
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BeldarSo what is the cd to this external HD to rm a .trash /media/bubba/seagate  will not delete normally had a freeze while running a delete on the external03:09
Beldaror just the straight rm I have the HD mirrored03:09
kenn1Man. This suspend problem is kicking my ass.03:10
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asdufMy mom accidentally unplugged my desktop while I was resizing my Windows partition with GParted. Now I can't boot Windows anymore. Is there any way I can recover the data?03:21
psusiasduf, nope03:22
nellim installing kde on ubuntu studio03:23
nellis it kubuntu-desktop i install?03:23
Bashing-omnell: Yepper : kubuntu-desktop - Kubuntu Plasma Desktop/Netbook system .03:25
tomenglanddoes anyone know why my cursor is stuck in the character insert, I can't click anything at all03:26
tomenglandis there a way to "reset" unity, like resetting explorer on windows or finder on mac03:27
tomenglandvia terminal03:27
redGodis there a way to make customized install disk on windows the only stuff I find when I search on google is for doing it on ubuntu itself403:30
Bashing-omtomengland: -> setsid unity <- to reset unity.03:33
Paulus68Goodmorning when I logged on to my system this morning I just get my desktop without any icons and stuff, when I logged on the guest session I got the message that my root is running low on diskspace how do I resolve this?03:36
Bashing-omPaulus68: Go hunting up what is consuming the disk space -> df -h , df -i , cd / , sudo du -sx * | sort -n , dpkg -l | grep linux-image .03:39
Paulus68Bashing-om: how do I get into terminal from logon screen?03:40
The0x539Any way I could switch my lubuntu install from 32 to 64 with a couple conmands?03:40
Bashing-omPaulus68: try @ login screen the key combo ctl+alt+F! .03:40
zykotick9The0x539: reinstall03:41
Paulus68Bashing-om: ctrl alt F1 I presume03:41
Bashing-omThe0x539: Nope, to go to 64 bit, ya got to install as 64 bit.03:41
The0x539zykotick9: I ran out of install media03:41
zykotick9The0x539: then stick to 32bit...03:41
Bashing-omPaulus68: Yeah, hold all three to effect.03:42
The0x539So you can switch distros with some repo tweaking, but not versions?03:42
Paulus68Bashing-om: can it be that dropbox is causing the problem? I uploaded 3 files not more then 100 mb last night before going to bed and this morning I couldn't logon?03:43
zykotick9The0x539: switching distros?  that would be crazyness...03:43
mud_batI have a computer running Ubuntu I think it's version 13.10.  The wifi was disconnecting every minute or so and to get it to reconnect, I would have to uncheck "enable wifi" and recheck it.  I'm trying to gather information but don't know what log files to read.03:43
The0x539zykotick9: perfectly achievable craziness03:43
zykotick9The0x539: from what to what?03:43
Bashing-omPaulus68: Do not guess .. look ! -  with the terminal commands provided.03:44
The0x539zykotick9: arbitrary I'd think03:44
zykotick9The0x539: you can't switch distros, you can't switch architectures...03:44
* zykotick9 suspects you could debootstrap a different distro... but that's hardly "normal" install03:46
jschallon 14.04: indicator-sound spontaneously crashed. rebooting doesn't help. I get these errors: http://pastebin.com/q7G9Fb2703:46
Bashing-omPaulus68: If ya need help reading those outputs !pastebinit .03:46
Paulus68Bashing-om: ok second thing is that I can't even reach that machine over the network is that normal? I'm at work now and can't get a hold of my machine03:46
* PrivateMethod waves03:46
The0x539zykotick9: When you finish, what's abnormal?03:48
PrivateMethodDoes anyone have experience with Chrome in kiosk mode?03:48
Bashing-omPaulus68: No that is not normal. guess ya will have to be there phyically - see if the system has crashed (??).03:48
* The0x539 revulses03:48
remuxahello everyone! (just checking since it seemed no one was on last time)03:48
Paulus68Bashing-om: even rebooting system doesn't solve that problem tried that before going to work03:49
remuxai'm installing ubuntu using the minimal cd (space constraints on my pc)03:49
remuxawhen i hit 'select and install components', a box is supposed to pop up with options03:49
remuxasuch as "Lubuntu desktop", "DNS server", "FTP server", etc.03:50
Bashing-omPaulus68: In that case, we may have to boot to terminal via the grub boot menu, and see about getting an idea of what is not taking place and why.03:50
remuxathis doesn't appear at all when I use it: it just sets up the barebones03:50
Paulus68Bashing-om: or booting through a live cd I presume?03:50
remuxais this a problem with the cd itself? or do i have to select any particular options?03:51
remuxasomeone who has worked with the ubuntu installer, please help!03:51
Bashing-omPaulus68: One can, but Should not be that extreme at this point.03:52
Paulus68Bashing-om: I know I have some large files on my disk so I could delete those through terminal just find it weird that I haven't been notified that I was running out of diskspace03:53
mud_batwhich log file would contain information on wifi failures?03:56
krono23hola03:56
krono23español?03:56
Paulus68!es |lrono2303:56
ubottulrono23: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.03:56
krono23gracias03:57
tom__vI just upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04.. not as smooth as I hoped, and eventually, I just had to do a clean 14.04 install.  But nwo dejabackup is not working to restore my files..03:57
tom__vI get a permission denied errory, but no details.03:57
fernando__hola03:57
Bashing-omremuxa: see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall <-.03:58
tom__vby dejabackup is encrypted... but I don't get any prompt to decrypt.03:58
Bashing-omPaulus68: What I see most often in this case is /boot directory full with old kernels, we need to look with those commands and see what is.03:59
remuxaBashing-om: I have read this page, and it doesn't seem to help me.03:59
Bashing-omremuxa: I Have slept a few times since I did the mini install .. best I recall the optiopn is "none" .04:00
remuxaBashing-om: So the dialog I had read about didn't exist?04:02
Bashing-omremuxa: Gimme a bit to refresh my memory, will read the reference. be back soonest.04:03
tom___vI just failed to update from 12.04 to 14.04, so I did a clean install, and now I can't figure out how to restore my home dir using my dejabackup files.04:04
tom___vI'm getting an error message, "permission denied"04:04
tom___vAny suggestions?  Anyone restored dejabackup to  a new system before?04:04
miguelhi04:05
tomenglandis there a notes text editor that will read google.com notes?04:06
aaeoncan someone one help me with this error: checking for directory with kernel source... Please install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution04:06
aaeonor use --with-kernel=dir option to specify another directory with kernel04:06
aaeonI need to figure out how to get linux-headers for 3.15 in that dir04:07
miguelhello there04:08
aaeonhey04:08
migueldo you have knowledge about clustering?04:10
snardbafulatorsI just need to know if my new business card's logo would be infringing on cannonical's trademark: http://i.imgur.com/eizzhMx.jpg04:10
MoonlightningMy laptop isn't booting, something about a nonexistent initrd.img. The last shutdown was a normal one, with /sbin/shutdown, but before that I remember a notice in the MotD that /boot was nearly full.04:11
MoonlightningAlso, I have unattended-upgrades enabled. I think it might be a failed kernel update.04:11
MoonlightningIt's a PowerBook, though, so finding any alternate boot media is going to be tricky at best…I'm sitting at an Open Firmware prompt right now, anything I can do from here?04:12
holsteinMoonlightning: try booting the older kernel04:12
Moonlightning…duh. *facepalm*04:12
MoonlightningShoulda thought of that. :P04:13
miguel<Moonlightning> what distro are you using?04:13
tom___vI'm researching how to troubleshoot my dejabackup restore, and seeing downright scary reviews about this being a problem (https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/saucy/deja-dup/)04:13
tom___vI thought dejabackup was just a pretty wrapper around rsync..04:13
tom___vbut now I'm worried my inability to restore my files might be a deeper problem.04:13
holsteintom___v: try it and see if it works for you04:14
Moonlightning…oops, that doesn't work either. No such file as initrd.img.old04:14
tom___vholstein, i did it's not recognizing my backed up files.. I get "permission dened"04:14
tom___vand no details.04:14
holsteintom___v: whats not?04:14
Moonlightningmiguel: Ubuntu. XD04:14
holsteintom___v: you can use sudo for permission errors04:14
MoonlightningElse I'd be asking in a different channel, dontcha think? :)04:14
tom___vthe ubuntu backup utility "dejabackup"04:14
tom___vpreinstalled with ubuntu 14.0404:15
miguelyour processor is amd?04:15
MoonlightningPowerPC.04:15
holsteintom___v: for the record, i have used it successfullly.. i also have had issues with it in the past. and had to configure it properly04:15
holstein!ppc | Moonlightning04:15
ubottuMoonlightning: PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ04:15
miguelyou've made an update?04:15
tom___vholstein, excellent to hear.04:15
Moonlightningholstein: yes, I know that.04:15
tom___vholstein,  I don't see a lot of configuration options..04:16
holsteinMoonlightning: ok.. so you know its not officially supported then?04:16
miguelyes i already know.04:16
MoonlightningDoes that mean I can't get help /at all/ here? >.<04:16
Bashing-omremuxa: I am back, my memory is no btter,,, I do know that I did not choose any of the "packages" to install in that pop up. I still feel the option I chose was "none" but it likely  is some other identification.04:16
miguelwait04:16
holsteinMoonlightning: you can try.. but there is only so much that can be done... have you tried a live CD on the hardware? have you tried testing the hard drive?04:17
remuxaBashing-om: The problem is that the pop-up never popped up for me, so I couldn't select anything if I wanted or not.04:17
tom___vholstein, I select, "restore", and point to my external drive, and I get "Restore Failed" => Error creating directory: Permission denied04:17
miguelyou can't boot right?04:17
tom___vmaybe I need to launch with sudo?04:17
holsteintom___v: you can tru sudo to address permission errorys04:17
remuxaBashing-om: And I'm wondering what could be the problem, the CD or my installation options04:18
holsteinerrors*04:18
holstein!sudo04:18
ubottusudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo04:18
nightdemon666Hello everyone... Anyone with experience installing 14.04 on intel mac mini?04:18
miguelor are you getting a kernel panic?04:19
tom___vholstein, gotcha.  I think we are on the same page.04:19
tom___vholstein, I'll try that now.04:19
holstein!mac | nightdemon66604:19
ubottunightdemon666: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a Mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages04:19
holsteinnightdemon666: i used reFIT, though, i understand that has a newer fork..04:19
nightdemon666I wanst intending on keeping os x. Just single boot ubuntu 14.04 on mac mini with intel chips04:20
holsteinnightdemon666: i used reFIT when i booted *only* ubuntu04:21
nightdemon666You didnt delete The EFI partition?04:21
holsteinnightdemon666: you can try what you like.. its all intel hardware, and nothing about ubuntu is preventing the installation of ubuntu on the hardware.. but i found i had issues on the few machine i had access to04:21
tom___vholstein, is "backups" gui the same as deja-dup on the command line?04:22
tom___vI'm wondering if I can use command line to restore04:22
holstein!gksudo04:22
ubottuIf you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)04:22
Bashing-omremuxa: Did you md5sum the .iso ? and what did you choose for an option in that first GUI installation screen ? (CLI installation [best of my poor memory]).04:23
tom___vholstein, thanks, I was not at all aware of that.  Installing gksu now.04:23
nightdemon666I have gotten all kinds of errors when loading the desktop. I deleted all partitions and set up the partition table as msdos. I tried the 64 bit version but it errors prompting me to select option 1 or 2 and then i cant type anything. I had to burn ubuntu 64 amd +mac into a dvd to get it to boot ubuntu :-(04:24
newvirushttp://piratebox.cc/faq04:24
nightdemon666I have it installed, but like i said, many errors... Ive wondered if its because i installed the amd+mac version on an intel based mac mini... Does that matter?04:25
CerratuxExcuse me <nightdemon666> what are you trying to do?04:26
remuxaBashing-om: For extra installation options, I chose the mouse support and lowmem. My locale/keyboard was en-US, I'm using a wireless connection, and I set up sda to have all but 500mb as a single partition.04:26
tom___vholstein, gksudo prompts me for the name of the app, but when I try "which Backups"  I don't find anything.04:27
tom___vWhat is the app I'm launching when I click the Backups icon in ubuntu 14.04?04:27
nightdemon666I installed ubuntu 14.04 amd+mac on an intel mac mini. I get all kinds of system error pop ups upon boot up to login screen, and then more errors when the desktop loads. I remember seeing an error that the installer crashed when i attempted the installation from live dvd.04:28
nightdemon666Cerratux, that reply was directed to you...04:29
tom___vholstein, or more generally, how can I tell what the full path is to any app I am launching from unity's interface?04:29
Cerratuxok04:29
Cerratuxlook several errors can occur04:29
nightdemon666What i want to know is, does it matter that i installed the amd64+mac version on intel hardware?04:30
remuxaBashing-om: Also I can't find the hash of the iso online for comparison with what I got.04:30
Cerratuxforgive my spell, how much ram do you have on your mac?04:30
nightdemon666I tried just the 64 bit (non-mac version) but i get prompted to selecting option 1. Or 2. From CD-ROM drive :-/04:31
remuxaBashing-om: Never mind, I found it on a wiki page, and they're the same.04:31
nightdemon6662 GB Cerratux04:31
tom___vholstein, I think I"m on the right track with this info http://askubuntu.com/questions/130674/how-do-i-open-deja-dup-as-root  I'll let you know how it goes.04:31
Cerratuxwell 64-bit is too much for it04:31
newvirushttp://piratebox.cc/videos04:31
Cerratuxyou should try a 32-bit04:32
Cerratuxubuntu distribution.04:32
Moonlightningholstein: no and no, but I doubt it's a hardware issue. Are there even any Ubuntu livecds for ppc anymore?04:32
nightdemon666Understood, but it gives me the option to upgrade ram further if i choose to go over 4GB in the future with 64 bit OS04:32
nightdemon666I can, and i dont mind doing that... Do you have experience installing ubuntu on mac mini?04:33
Cerratuxhow is your sata configuration?04:34
Cerratuxof course it must be ahci04:34
grilobr?04:35
Cerratuxif your processor is intel, you must be able to run ubuntu04:35
Cerratuxno matter what04:35
nightdemon666Cerratux, i hadnt bothered to look into the sata config. Im very much used to running linux distros with out much problem. I ran an old crunchband distro from cd just fine, but i couldnt seem to boot 64 bit (non-mac) version of 14.0404:36
nightdemon666Its running, but like i said, with errors wanting me to send bug reports on.04:37
Cerratuxso you already run "system testing"?04:39
Cerratuxthat aplication can bring you detailed information04:39
aaeoncan anyone help me with the following error running the command: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)04:39
aaeonPackage linux-headers-3.15.0-031500-generic is not available, but is referred to by another package.04:39
Cerratuxit comes with ubuntu 14.04 by default04:39
Cerratuxdon't worry by the architecture of your cpu04:40
Cerratuxdon't worry about the architecture of your cpu04:40
Cerratuxif you have 2gb ram should be enougth04:41
newvirushttp://piratebox.cc/laptop04:41
Bashing-omremuxa: OK, also what pops to mind, are you sure you have the minimal version rather then the "alternate" ??04:41
tom___vholstein, looks like my restore is now underway.  Thanks for the help!! Karma point to you.04:41
remuxaBashing-om: Yes, I am using the minimal version.04:42
Cerratuxi have tried amd-64 bits on intel and run great04:42
Cerratuxubuntu amd-64 bit04:42
Cerratuxsometimes happens that the graphic driver is not compatible with the video server04:46
Cerratuxxorg04:46
Pimpdamaphttp://trrlewis.blogspot.com/04:48
Pimpdamaptheres good stuff here04:48
newvirusdistrowatch.com04:48
lotuspsychjenewvirus: plz stop spamming04:48
newvirusyes mom04:48
newviruspimp no more spaming04:49
FirefisheHow does one set up mpd for use as a normal user, and not globally?  (This is a generic question, not distro-specific.  I have need of general information.)04:49
newviruslotuspsychje is alertjeck to spam04:50
lotuspsychje!ops | newvirus04:50
ubottunewvirus: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, rww, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, DJones or k1l!04:50
newvirus!ops lotuspsychje04:50
snardbafulatorsguys   is this logo to similar to that of Ubuntu?  http://i.imgur.com/eizzhMx.jpg04:50
snardbafulatorsor is this okay to use on my new program that I will be selling?04:51
snardbafulatorsIt is called newbuntu04:51
xangua!ops | snardbafulators04:52
ubottusnardbafulators: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, rww, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, DJones or k1l!04:52
snardbafulatorsoh go suck on a nigger dick xangua04:52
fuzzywhirlpoolFirefishe: you can read about mpd in the ubuntu wiki04:59
fuzzywhirlpoolhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPD04:59
remuxaBashing-om: Now, out of all the prior times, the dialog box shows up.05:02
remuxaBashing-om: It probably doesn't do with me disabling all of the security schemes (such as shadow passwords and encrypted /home)05:03
Bashing-omremuxa: Looking better,,, Unless you have a dire need DO NOT encrypt ! It adds a layer of complexity that in times of difficulty can not be overcome.05:08
Waykool99 Question about BlueTooth: does Ubuntu have a help page which explains what, who, where NAP, DUN, PAN, Object Push and dhcpd3/dnsmasq means, in kindergarden language?05:11
newvirusfaq file05:12
Waykool99just bought a tablet. i'm very concerned about BT'ing with this pc and BT security. found some questionable 'apps' with (almost) hidden sending private info to 3rd party servers, which sort of angers me.05:16
Waykool99i doubt the carriers customer service will be honest and give me straight answers.  otherwise, i like that it runs on Linux, connects to my wifi-router and bluetooth 1st before connecting to a cell tower. but have serious security concerns.05:20
bazhangWaykool99, this is not really an ubuntu issue, try ##security05:21
lotuspsychjeWaykool99: or if you interested for ubuntu on tablet #ubuntu-touch05:22
user0how to create my own linux05:22
bazhang!remaster | user005:22
ubottuuser0: Interested in remastering the Ubuntu !LiveCD or !Alternate installer? See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization - Or use tools such as http://uck.sourceforge.net/ or http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/DRU_Disc_Remastering_Utility05:22
fuzzywhirlpoolWhy don't you just activate offline mode before using Bluetooth?05:22
bazhangor start with the mini user005:22
bazhang!mini | user005:22
ubottuuser0: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD05:22
Waykool99i'm running on Live ubuntu v14.04 LTS 64 bit with BT, DVD-R. i've never used BT on a pc before.05:23
lotuspsychje!bluetooth | Waykool9905:24
ubottuWaykool99: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup05:24
Waykool99OK. thank you very much everyone. have a great day.  i'll swipe/copy/paste everything to a *.txt file on thumb drive as a reference. thanks again.05:26
SamSolDoes anybody know why updatedb.mlocate takes so much time to run&05:27
SamSol?05:27
histoSamSol: it needs to create a database of every file on your system05:30
SamSolIt is just reading all directories. Why so long?05:32
SamSolIts must be a bug!05:33
histoSamSol: how long is long?05:33
SamSol40 minutes05:33
RustyShackleforddoes anyone else use chrome on ubuntu?05:33
kenn1How many files you got and how fast is the drive?05:34
histoSamSol: yeah that's abnormal05:34
histoSamSol: is it a thumb drive?05:34
RustyShacklefordi've got a wierd issue where if lots of tabs are open, the pages don't render correctly while you scroll05:34
SamSolNo, 3.5'' HDD05:34
SamSol139G used of 457G05:35
histoSamSol: well that could be why. What is the 139gb of?05:35
SamSolChecking...05:36
Poindexter_Can anyone here direct me to any interactive web server daemons for my server either in Ubuntu or Debian? Not experimental but it has to work.05:36
kenn1apache?05:36
Poindexter_IE real time talk or text.05:37
Poindexter_Tech support.05:38
ichatPoindexter_:    if you want good answers ... ask good questions... ie.  tell us about what you seeq what you have and with what puropse05:40
Poindexter_Interactive live tech support for my clients.05:41
ichatPoindexter_:  with what purpose, in what kind of setting... where who  why...05:41
ichatcome one really  make the effort here05:41
user0how to show network tariff in xubuntu05:41
Poindexter_Interactive technical support. I think I made my question very clear.05:42
ichatuser0:  you could use conky05:42
bazhangPoindexter_, for ubuntu?05:42
Poindexter_I will look that up. Thanks ichat.05:42
ichatPoindexter_:  conky wasnt meant for you05:43
ichata never mind05:43
ichatim outa here05:43
Poindexter_Ichat thanks for that heads up.05:43
ouyesI can not go to sleep05:44
Poindexter_I will spell it out much simpler. I want people to come to my web site and click on an icon and then be able to chat with one of my technicians or also in another case to chat with other school mates in my Network Technology Academy. It is just an interactive tool. I have seen them, but, it is like a relay server in which like IRC and VOIP you need an intermediary server to do the work.05:46
kenn1Poindexter_: sounds like you want a chat webapp05:47
Poindexter_The thing is that I don't want to rely on a public web IRC chat. I set up a Debian web server but I am looking for a tool to use my Debian or Ubuntu servers to act as an intermediator between the server and clients.05:49
kenn1Poindexter_: I googled: http://codegeekz.com/10-free-chat-applications-for-your-websites/05:50
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Guest75224hi to all05:53
SamSolhisto, thank you. Looks like my admin put previous system to /home/opensuse. Even du -sh /home/opensuse takes long time05:54
histoSamSol: I would just create a tar gzip of the old stuff incase you ever need it.05:56
SamSolI think it may have overloaded folder. May be old tmp...05:57
SamSolI will find it and wipe/05:58
user___Curt sighed in frustration.  He was miles away from home and conceptually06:05
user___... been his parents and counselors who decided that early college06:05
user___... sighed and turned down the heat06:05
user___... the first time made him lonely.  It didn't matter06:05
lotuspsychje!ot | user___06:05
ubottuuser___: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!06:05
user___... predestined for failure.06:05
user___... degree.  Curt only stood about06:06
nikolamuser___, what??06:06
user___... same way.  The girls had been kind, but06:06
user___... nothing had changed.  Curt06:06
user___... and a half inches long.  His balls were similarly-sized,06:06
nikolamThis is Ubuntu support channel user___06:06
user___... nothing ... so far.  His research would06:06
lotuspsychje!ops | user___06:06
ubottuuser___: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, rww, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, DJones or k1l!06:06
user___...06:06
user___... other compounds.  He turned up the flame06:06
user___... passage of the new compound by visual inspection.06:06
user___... amount from the vial with06:06
user___... be difficult.  There were many06:06
user___... drifted off to sleep, the beaker in the next room continued to simmer...06:07
user___... considering the dreams he'd had the night before) and looked06:07
user___... muttered.  Squeezing out a few drops06:07
nikolamI have some strange trouble with wired networking. It started when I used 13.10 a month or 2 ago and continued with upgraded 14.04.06:09
bazhang!details | nikolam06:09
ubottunikolam: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)06:09
nikolamLAN is on, but no network is shared to other LAN users via it06:09
nikolambazhang, give me a sec06:09
lotuspsychjenikolam: its best to explain all in one line06:10
nikolamI can only click in network GUI in panel on LAN, then it works, but I need to do it on every reboot06:10
nikolamlotuspsychje, yes, I suppose it is, but I can't keep with the speed requested06:11
nikolamLAN hardware is BCM5721 and it is answered as 'p5p1' in ifconfig06:12
lotuspsychje!broadcom | nikolam06:13
ubottunikolam: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx06:13
bazhangthats not really the right broadcom06:13
lotuspsychjenikolam: did you check your additional drivers section for network drivers?06:13
nikolamlotuspsychje, yes, I use Nvidia only06:15
nikolamIt used to work just fine in 13.10 up to 2 months ago. then it started behaving like that, and now in 14.04 . Will see that BCM link.06:16
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adhdheroI can't concentrate. Can you recommend a good concentration camp with nice Jewish kids for me?06:25
weedmicI have a linux machine with NFS server on it with an NFS share of /weekly/migration.  I have a different linux machine with NFS client.  I was never asked for a password on the client machine to access the NFS share.  Where do I input the credentials to access the share?06:26
vahidhi all06:38
vahidhow install nessus in ubuntu06:38
aeon-ltd!nessus06:38
histo!info nessus06:38
ubottuPackage nessus does not exist in trusty06:38
histodid bot die?06:38
nikolamEvery time I use sudo it spits out " no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864, leaking memory "06:38
nikolamIt is upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 . saying how much trouble I have with it, it seems I must reinstall to get working LTS...06:39
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slingamni have a minimal install of Precise and i want to upgrade it via the CLI to Trusty. `do-release-upgrade` tells me: "Checking for a new Ubuntu release" and then "No new release found"06:42
PrivateMethodGoogle Chrome is in my Start-up Applications. If I try and have the computer Autologin, Google Chrome is unresponsive at startup. However, if I have the user do a manual login, Google Chrome works just fine. wtf06:43
nikolamslingamn, it depends on what is set , should it show updates06:43
slingamnnikolam: sorry, i don't understand. is there a setting i should change?06:44
vahidhow to instaal nessus in ububntu06:44
nikolamPrivateMethod, is Google chrome installed from ubuntu repositories (it uses chromium) or downloading from external site?06:44
PrivateMethoddownloading from external site.06:44
PrivateMethodnikolam: I used http://www.google.com/chrome06:44
vahidhhhhaaalllooo06:45
PrivateMethodyou know, let me give this a try... I'm going to try Chromium browser instead.06:45
PrivateMethodIf this fixes it, I'm going to throw this thing through the wall.06:46
nikolamslingamn, I suggest you do fresh LTS install. I had problems with update, but yes, I usually set that in Synaptic in settings, what he should be checking to update to.06:46
nikolamPrivateMethod, then that is google's problem I suppose or try looking it inside ubuntu repositories instead06:46
slingamnnikolam: that's fair. nothing is broken with this system so i might just leave it as it is until 16.0406:47
PrivateMethodnikolam: Yeah, I'm going to try the chromium-browser instead of straight up Ghrome06:47
PrivateMethodChrome*06:47
nikolamchromium it more privacy-minded then google's chrome, it does not have some components, but they are made from same sources06:47
PrivateMethodnikolam: I read in a few sources that Google Chrome has issues with how it utilizes the GPU...06:49
nikolamAt least on Linux, you Can get working Chromium in repositories of distributions. On other platforms, it is not such luck.06:49
PrivateMethodBut I am not 100% sure that it'd be realted to my issue.06:49
nikolamPrivateMethod, I wouldn't know that, I use mostly Firefox and Seamonkey.06:49
nikolamBut checking graphics drivers, won't hurt, too.06:49
PrivateMethodwhen I check the graphcis driver, it just says it's a VGA, Intel Controller Version 2 or something rather.06:50
MrGeneralHello folks. Upon trying to get ElasticSearch to start on boot, I get a fail error, however, no logs are created. How can I change the boot order so it will be the last service to start? Note that I'm able to start, stop and restart it with service elasticsearch start, stop, restart.06:50
PrivateMethodThis motherboard is custom made :\06:50
weedmicwhere does NFS ask you to login or where does one set the credentials?06:50
* PrivateMethod just installed Chromium-Browser... hopes it fixes06:51
nikolamslingamn, I have sort of good experience with LTSes. Just they also can have some bogus updates, but they last one day tops and most of the time it just works06:51
slingamnagreed. this is really low-spec hardware and i don't use it much, i picked ubuntu 12.04 to minimize problems and it's worked well so far06:51
PrivateMethodnikolam: it fixed it... son of a!....06:52
nikolamPrivateMethod, hmm, intel driver come with the system usually. maybe you should get some graphics card in 2014? :P06:52
PrivateMethodnikolam: what's crazy, is that I have been thinking "chromium-browser" all afternoon, but didn't think that they'd be different.06:53
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nikolamPrivateMethod, just bare in mind to report to google your bug with their chrome in ubuntu. And that Chromium does not have some closed components that ship with chrome.06:54
PrivateMethodnikolam: It's all custom hardware. It all works out of the box (ubuntu install), but the manufacturer does not supply *nix drivers.06:54
nikolamPrivateMethod, they are sam sources, just google bundles more stuff in their.06:54
PrivateMethodnikolam: I appreciate the mention of chromium though... sometimes it takes a fresh pair of eyes/thoughts06:54
nikolamPrivateMethod, you need to force manufacturer to support Linux at least. This it 2014.. :P06:55
PrivateMethodIf you saw this system, it might make a little more sense. ;)06:55
nikolamPrivateMethod, report it to google, anyway, it seems like they have problems with Ubuntu then. or something else :P06:56
PrivateMethodnikolam: yeah, it's definitely a Google Chrome issue. I'll report it.06:57
helmut_hi06:57
PrivateMethodhello helmut_06:59
ws2k3do we have mariadb of mysql in buntu 14.04?07:06
MrGeneralws2k3, dunno, im using mariadb mirrors tho07:07
MrGeneralws2k3, https://downloads.mariadb.org/mariadb/repositories/#mirror=fe_up_pt&distro=Ubuntu&distro_release=trusty&version=10.007:07
ws2k3yeah i chose to compile by hand was i was thinking maby someone knows07:07
ws2k3would be nice if thet would add mariadb-server and mariadb-client to the ubuntu repository07:08
MrGeneralyeah ws2k307:13
SwayAnyone here running an amd card with proprietary drivers and have issues such as freezing and unresponsive cursor, etc..? I swear every time i install drivers for my gpu, i have these problems but if i don't then i have to deal with my second monitor not fitting my screen properly ._.07:14
ws2k3lol they went from php 5.3 to php 5.5 ?07:14
ws2k3precise had php 5.3 and trusty had 5.5 ...07:15
nikolamws2k3, does it change something for you?07:16
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ws2k3it would be better if they would have one releash with php 5.407:17
ws2k3moving from php 5.3 to php is harder then moving from 5.3 to 5.4 and then move again to 5.507:17
nikolamSway, depending on model, open or proprietary drivers might work. http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Hardware07:18
allstarsnorks2hi guys. How do I apply a GTK 3.0 theme without using the GNOME Tweak Tool?07:20
nikolamws2k3, like when comics owner from 'The Big bang theory' said (before ceiling fell out where he previously standed): "I can't catsh a break" :P07:20
diphi~ how do one find out what to type for XXX in "apt-get install XXX", from a link like this? http://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nova/1:2014.1-0ubuntu1.107:21
SwayNot sure if i want to bother with drivers. This card works fine without drivers and the only issue i have is; my second monitor doesn't fit the resolution i have set for it even though that's the resolution it should be lol07:21
Beldarallstarsnorks2, This the fallback or gnome shell desktop, just curious?07:21
BeldarAnd what release?07:22
how-art-thoudoes the php5 in trusty 14.04 lts have support for postgresql?07:23
nikolamSway, you need to check what GOU you use. If it is problem with open drivers (that comes shipped with the system), you should file a Bug report (ubuntu-bug and then on launchpad). Or see if your hardware works better with proprietary drivers, if supported.07:23
nikolamGPU07:23
allstarsnorks2_Beldar it's the GNOME 3 Shell (no fallback)07:23
Beldarallstarsnorks2_, Cool what release?07:24
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Swaynikolam, Was just curious if anyone else here was having similar issues. Default drivers actually work better than proprietary. Without them my system is stable :p07:25
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nikolamSway, what hardware07:26
SwayRadeon-HD 785007:26
weedmicI have found that nvidia drivers work much better (actually flawlessly) compared to opensource versions.07:26
Sway@ nikolam07:26
allstarsnorks2__sorry, got disconnected07:26
Beldarallstarsnorks2__, This 14.04?07:26
weedmicI have had no other instances where I wanted proprietary drivers, like I use powerchute for UPS comms without probs.07:27
allstarsnorks2__Beldar. Yep, Ubuntu GNOME 14.04. Came here because no one at the gnome channel or the ubuntu gnome channel is responding.07:27
nikolamSway, there it is saying "2D/3D Acceleration with Catalyst Only for * All RadeonHD 7000-series (aka Southern Islands) and RadeonHD 8000-series (aka Sea Islands) chips"07:27
Swaynikolam, Yeah i was reading that.07:27
nikolamSo you won't get any acceleration without catalyst if thet is right07:28
Beldarallstarsnorks2_, Not being up on this I don't do themes this google search may get you going first hit is Webupd8 is a ppa is all, https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=gnome+shell+14.04+install++GTK+3.0+theme&gbv=1&sei=upueU97mDYbroAT__YGQDQ07:28
SwayTotally okay with that.07:29
nikolamSway, on the other hand, "Some RadeonHD 7000/8000 cards are actually rebadged" so maybe that is why open drivers are working ok07:30
Beldarallstarsnorks2__, Kinda slow here this time of noght where I'm at so thought to at least get you going if I could. ;)07:30
Swayhah yeah..07:30
allstarsnorks2__Beldar I'm trying my best.07:31
ada5Anyone used the Knoppix 7.2 live-disk?   It seems to recognize my Ubuntu boot sector only, but not parts /sda2-/sda507:32
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Beldarallstarsnorks2__, That is all you can do. ;)07:33
allstarsnorks2__Beldar I'm also trying to change my GNOME Shell with a theme. I did it before, but forgot how07:33
Beldarada5, Knoppix is not supported here, this for an install, what is the end goal?07:33
nikolamSway, no i've been reading some review, it's new chip07:33
Bootezls07:33
weedmicremind me how do I do man foo in a browser to see a formated man page?07:35
allstarsnorks2__awkward. Why is GTK 3.0 window different for root and non-root07:38
ada5Beldar, My Ubuntu 12.04 now halts mid boot, thought I'd check it wasn't over-full. Look at its last dmesg.07:38
cjaeyo, palemoon needs to be in repos07:39
Beldarada5, If knoppix does not see it I would use a live that does is all, could be any number of reasons why this is happening including a broken partition table.07:40
ada5Beldar, Knoppix is not supported at #knoppix  haha07:40
leeyaahello07:41
leeyaawhere can i review ubuntu 14.04 bugs07:41
leeyaasomething like a list07:41
leeyaai need to check how stable is xen on 14.0407:41
Beldarada5, Grab a puppy linux for a small download.07:41
franz_https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-14.0407:41
tracyonehow to use markdown to write a blog in wordpress?07:42
leeyaafranz_: is there any xen section or thats all07:42
ada5Beldar, Thanks. Will keep at it.07:42
franz_not sure i just happened to be on the page :p07:43
leeyaarofl ;p07:43
Beldarada5, If you tap the esc keep right after the grub menu you will get a text boot if that might help, or insert text in grub with an edit per boot07:45
ada5Beldar, Thanks, ESC key, great!07:46
m1dnight_hey guys07:51
m1dnight_I'm using tmux lately and I've put in my .bashrc a line that tells my terminal (ctrl-alt-t) to always open up tmux07:51
m1dnight_is there a handy way to make it do the following:07:51
m1dnight_-> tmux attach -d07:51
m1dnight_so that it kills my other terminals and reopens the current terminal?07:52
m1dnight_I tried changing the line as follows:07:53
m1dnight_[[ $TERM != "screen" ]] && exec 'tmux attach -d'07:53
m1dnight_but that doesn't work really07:53
m1dnight_oh wait07:53
m1dnight_it does07:53
m1dnight_hurrah07:54
tomengland3.1.5 works very well on ubuntu 14.0407:55
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gsagieI am running vnc4server on a ubuntu 12.04 desktop machine, i try to connect to it with a VNC client (tried 2 different clients) and i all i see is a grey screen, anyone know what might be the problem,?08:01
TomyWorkwhat's the recommended way to install system updates on ubuntu 12.04? aptitude or apt-get dist-upgrade?08:03
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Ben64TomyWork: apt-get08:04
aeon-ltdTomyWork: more here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto#Maintenance_commands08:04
gsagieI am running vnc4server on a ubuntu 12.04 desktop machine, i try to connect to it with a VNC client (tried 2 different clients) and i all i see is a grey screen, anyone know what might be the problem,?08:08
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Ben64gsagie: you probably created a new display and it's just empty08:13
gsagieBen64 : what do you mean "new display" ?08:13
aeon-ltdgsagie: have you seen this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2038352 also what is your xstartup -double check it and pastebin it if in doubt08:13
Ben64gsagie: a new instance of xorg?08:14
gsagieBen64: i haven't done this before, i just installed and run vnc4server, i guess i was missing some steps08:14
Ben64gsagie: try running this... "DISPLAY=:1 xterm"08:15
gsagierun it where?08:15
Ben64gsagie: on your computer running the vnc server08:16
gsagieBen64: doesn't do anything just stuck08:17
`ajvenhi, how much stable is ubuntu this day?08:18
cfhowlettajven  very08:18
Ben64gsagie: look at the vnc client when thats running08:18
`ajvencfhowlett its not like 2-3 years ago ? every restart = new error ?08:19
Ben64`ajven: it wasn't like that 2-3 years ago08:19
cfhowlettajven    LTS = very08:19
bazhangcheck the notes `ajven08:19
bazhang!notes | `ajven08:19
ubottu`ajven: Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty Thar) release notes can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes08:19
`ajvenwell i was work with 6 machine 3 years a go and every  reboot makes new errors, thats why im asking how it looks now08:20
cfhowlettajven check the calendar.  it's 2014.08:20
bazhang`ajven, do have an actual support issue?08:20
`ajvendidnt install it yet so nope :)08:20
cfhowlettajven install virtual box.  install ubuntu to vbox.  test.08:20
`ajveni agree but using os on virtualization its not same like runing it on computer :) anyway if you say its stable i will give a try08:21
`ajventhanks for answers08:22
cfhowlettajven happy2help08:22
gsagieBen64: when i type it, i see my terminal window (the background is still all grey)08:22
gsagiein the VNC client08:22
Ben64gsagie: see, thats because it created a new display. if you wanted a different behavior, then you need to change things08:23
dipanyone can give me pointers on how to install this package~?08:23
diphttp://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nova/1:2014.1-0ubuntu1.108:23
dipit's on proposed repository, I followed instruction here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed08:24
gsagieBen64: any chance you can direct me to what it is i need to change so i can see the entire screen in VNC? any link will be appreciated08:24
Ben64dip: on that page it shows that it failed to build, there is no package08:24
dipbut can't find the package08:24
cfhowlettdip it's not yet ready for prime time08:24
dipoops...08:24
Ben64gsagie: so you want it to not create a display but show the one you already had running?08:25
gsagieyes08:25
Ben64gsagie: then you should use the built in tools for that, on 12.04 it's called "Desktop Sharing"08:26
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phallixanyone know how i can map channels in alsamixer, sound only coming from subwoofer and doesnt show all speakers in alsa or pulse08:35
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CMStormturn the lights down low08:54
niko/22/whois ramers08:54
kiwicamHi Everyone. Is it possible to have skype go through one sound card and all other sounds go through another? Kubuntu 12.04 LTS08:55
tomenglandhello is there anyway to run sudo modprobe -r psmouse ; sudo modprobe psmouse08:55
CMStormkiwicam are you from nz?08:55
tomenglandas soon as machine comes out of suspend?08:55
tomenglandautomatically*08:55
wuschLORhi there anybody familiar with inkscape sripts ?08:56
Paulus68is it normal that the network is disconnected when the drive is full?08:56
kiwicamCMStorm: If I say yes, do I get a prize? I am.08:56
justanothernoobHello. I'm currently trying to install Ubuntu with the help of Knoppix. Followed all steps from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromKnoppix. Got to the part where I have to copy files from /lib/grub to /boot/grub, but /lib/grub isn't available. Well, whatever. Edited grub.conf to include my HDD. Too bad, that my HDD is not to be found in /dev. Knoppix can see it, but Ubuntu can08:59
justanothernoobnot. Why, and how do I fix it?08:59
ikoniajustanothernoob: why don't you just do a normal install09:00
ikoniajustanothernoob: why are you trying to install via knoppix ?09:01
ikoniathat guide appears massibly dated and now very wrong09:02
justanothernoobbecause Ubuntu doesn't fit on a CD. and my DVD-Drive has problems reading DVDs. It always either crashes the installation or doesn't even start it at all.09:02
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ikoniajustanothernoob use a usb09:02
justanothernoobis there a newer guide avalable?09:03
ikoniano09:03
ikonianot that I'm aware of09:03
ikoniaand it appears to just be a weak process anyway09:03
Beldarjustanothernoob, a mini net install works well09:03
justanothernoobthe one time i managed to start ubuntu from disk there was an installer on it. Can i download it somewhere?09:04
lotuspsychjejustanothernoob: create an ubuntu usb with unetbootin?09:06
justanothernoobThanks Beldar. Haven't thought about it. You are my beacon in the darkness that is Ubuntu installation.09:07
lotuspsychje!cookie | Beldar09:07
ubottuBeldar: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!09:07
lotuspsychjewhats the log name again where you can see unity starting speed?09:11
tomenglandjust wanted to say this was a lifesaver right here.  my machine is now 100% configured.  woohoo. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=218911709:22
Guest69751:-)09:26
ActionParsnipjustanothernoob: could try the minimal iso, then upgrade using the web09:28
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tristanStrangehey chaps... I've just done an upgrade from 13.10 -> 14.04 but a lot of my packages were held back.09:43
tristanStrangehow do I find out what software it is that caused this?09:43
dbuggerIn "software and Updates" there is a possibility to find the "Best server" to get updates from Ubuntu. Is it possible to do that from the terminal?09:44
cfhowlettdbugger probably, but I don't know what commands would launch09:45
ActionParsniptristanStrange: they wil be held back if dependancies cannot be met. Once they are met they will install.09:46
cfhowletttristanStrange relax.  it might take a bit of time, but the "held backs" will self-correct.09:46
ActionParsniptristanStrange: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade ,will show the held back packages09:46
meaninghey there. Are there any official devs of the ubuntu tablet project here ?09:49
cfhowlett!touch > meaning09:49
ubottumeaning, please see my private message09:49
svetatry #ubuntu-touch09:49
ActionParsnipcfhowlett: that's fast shooting, Tex09:49
tristanStrangecheers guys.... forgot to do a dist-upgrade.... a lot less stuff held back now. Cheers!09:49
svetai doubt there's merit in hiding that channel name, unless there is an obnoxiously long factoid about it09:50
cfhowlettActionParsnip yeah, well, you know us bot-abusers ... :)09:50
ActionParsnipcfhowlett: she is useful for abuse ;)09:50
meaningthanks ! ;)09:50
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N4G3B00hello09:57
cfhowlettN4G3B00 ask your ubuntu questions09:58
svetahi! welcome09:58
YamakasYwhat is the localtimezone for The Netherlands ? nl_NL ?10:00
ActionParsnipYamakasY: have you tried 'tzselect' in terminal, should make things easier10:01
YamakasYActionParsnip: I need to use it in preseed... that's why10:02
ActionParsnipYamakasY: isnt the timezone setting just a symlink ?10:02
roby77!ciao10:03
YamakasYActionParsnip: yes, but I need to set it on preseed, that is way before the installation10:03
roby77!list10:03
ubotturoby77: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».10:03
ActionParsnipYamakasY: i belive its nl_nl as you say10:03
ubuntuDoubts_Hello10:03
YamakasYActionParsnip: it doesn't accept it... but my VMscreen is artifacted... so I cannot see what 's happening10:04
ActionParsnipYamakasY: ln -sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Amsterdam /etc/localtime10:05
Paulus68using ubuntu 14.04 tried to logon this morning and just got a blank desktop no icons or taskbars after rebooting I tried the guest session => there was the notification that the root system was low on diskspace how do I resolve this?10:05
roby77!ciao10:05
ActionParsnipYamakasY: http://m.wikihow.com/Change-the-Timezone-in-Linux10:05
roby77!list10:05
ubotturoby77: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».10:05
YamakasYActionParsnip: ah found... it wants to install in dutch... I don't want that!10:05
YamakasYActionParsnip: I know that...10:06
cfhowlettYamakasY bork bork bork???10:06
ActionParsnipPaulus68: press CTRL + ALT + F1 and you can run: sudo apt-get clean ,as a good start10:06
ActionParsnipPaulus68: you could uninstall libreoffice so that you can login and get a GUI then clean up further10:06
Paulus68ActionParsnip: any large files will that be sufficient to?10:08
ActionParsnipYamakasY: do you have files like /usr/share/zoneinfo/Etc/GMT-810:08
ActionParsnipPaulus68: exactly. I only suggest libreoffice as its quite chunky (about 300Mb)10:09
Paulus68well I know I have some files in the download that are 1 GIG so I could start to delete those first10:09
ActionParsnipPaulus68: makes sense. Cleaning apt's cache down will help.10:10
ActionParsnipPaulus68: also uninstall old unused kernels.10:10
Paulus68ActionParsnip: how do I remove these10:10
lotuspsychjePaulus68: and clean out more deeper dirs like firefox cache, or huge logs in /var10:11
ActionParsnipPaulus68: uname -r ,will show the current kernel.10:11
ActionParsnipPaulus68: dpkg -l | grep linux-image | awk {'print $2'}10:11
cfhowlettPaulus68 apt-get autoremove10:11
* lotuspsychje uses ubuntu-tweak to clean out10:12
LordNikon55Paulus68: Make sure you understand commands before running them, you shouldn't implicitly trust people in IRC10:12
ActionParsnipPaulus68: will show the installed kernels. You can remove any extra kernels. Just not the metapackage (the one without numbers) and not the running kernel.10:12
ActionParsniplotuspsychje: user cannot login, so ubuntu tweak isnt going to be usable unless it can be used in CLI10:13
roby77!list10:13
ubotturoby77: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».10:13
Paulus68LordNikon55: I know ActionParsnip and cfhowlett to be trustworthy and they helped me out in the past as well10:13
* cfhowlett blushes furiously10:13
ActionParsnipRoby77: it hasnt changed you know. There will never be files listed10:13
LordNikon55That ubottu message annoys me every single time, !list doesn't suggest warez10:13
lotuspsychje!cookie | cfhowlett  ActionParsnip10:14
ubottucfhowlett  ActionParsnip: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!10:14
ActionParsniplotuspsychje: ty :-)10:14
cfhowlettlotuspsychje thanks m810:14
Paulus68throwing cookies is one :p helping out is for ActionParsnip and cfhowlett :D10:15
Paulus68no offense towards lotuspsyche :D10:15
lotuspsychjePaulus68: we helped a user out yesterday, with cleaning out cli also with this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/36111/whats-a-command-line-way-to-find-large-files-directories-to-remove-and-free-up10:17
loawhat is easy method to lock package in ubuntu?10:17
loai installed google-chrome10:17
LordNikon55Baobab is the easiest way to find large files10:17
lotuspsychje!info baobab10:18
ubottubaobab (source: baobab): GNOME disk usage analyzer. In component main, is optional. Version 3.8.2-1ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 153 kB, installed size 900 kB10:18
loafor example i installed google-chrome-32-0-1700-107-es-en-br-fr-de-it-cn-jp-ar-ru-nl-pl-cz-dk-fi-gr-kr-no-se-tr-ubu.deb10:18
loai want to lock thing from it.10:18
lotuspsychjeLordNikon55: is that the default disk analyzer tool in ubuntu?10:18
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loabecouse update-manager is trying to update10:18
loait10:18
Paulus68lotuspsychje: thanks10:18
LordNikon55lotuspsychje: Not sure, I use Red Hat10:19
loalotuspsychje, there is much better, kdirstat10:19
lotuspsychjebbl10:19
loabut ofcourse it need kde libs...10:19
LordNikon55Yes, KDE is best avoided like the plague10:24
Dinguswhat about mint?10:25
cfhowlett!mint|Dingus ??? mint isn't supported here10:26
ubottuDingus ??? mint isn't supported here: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org10:26
gryDingus: you're welcome to stick around and help others nevertheless.10:26
jdmfI'm currently making a local mirror using "debmirror" of trusty, but I'm not sure if I should also mirror the source? I can not see what I should be using the source for. Anyone here that can enlighten me?10:26
gryjdmf: if you intend to compile it, source would be useful. Otherwise you probably don't need it.10:27
jdmfgry: Thanks, that was my thought also, and saving local space is always nice.10:28
KGM70LordNikon55, I beg to differ, and I know that your sweeping statement is made to cause controversy, but we all gave our likes and dislikes this isn't the forum for that kind pf statement10:29
KGM70oops , anyway the gist is there10:30
jdmfgry: Another thing then - What about the requirement of some kernel-image header or sources. Would this require the source from mirror?10:31
svetajdmf: I believe headers are installed, probably to let others do kernel system calls.10:33
svetaI mean, they're installed for everyone, not only developers.10:33
jdmfsveta: Sounds about right. And also having the kernel-headers in a seperate package as I can not remember the last time I used apt-get source PKG10:34
jdmfThanks all. :)10:35
svetajdmf: I think I didn't use apt-get source myself. I would start doing that, but I suspect that I am more into fixing bugs upstream anyway.10:36
svetapackaging is hard and I appreciate your closer look at all that.10:36
ddtCan I limit ICMP with UFW? I tried add rules for ICMP limit to after.rules or/and before.rules , but it didn't work.. Thanks10:38
ddtrules like -A ufw-after-input -p icmp --icmp-type echo-request -m limit --limit 39.6/min --limit-burst 1 -j ACCEPT10:39
jdmfsveta: Thank your for your input. :)10:43
jdmfgry: Also thank to you.. :)10:44
svetawe're the same person actually, I just have weird internet10:44
svetano worries10:44
jdmfthat explains everything now.. :P10:45
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texlaUbuntu-14.04 Unity..How to add themes to unity-tweak-tool..Downloaded gtk2-engines-cleanice..does not show in tweaks10:58
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hari075hi11:02
hari075i friends need help regarding squid3 conf11:03
hari075if you can plz help me11:04
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hari075need help reg squid conf11:12
cfhowlett!info squid11:14
ubottusquid (source: squid3): dependency package from squid to squid3. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3.8-1ubuntu6 (trusty), package size 5 kB, installed size 138 kB11:14
hari075how to export suid user and pwd in squid311:15
hari075i have installed and working fine11:15
hari075now i need to export users and pwd on my old server11:15
robynata:P11:18
yohanesekoportabhello11:21
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justanothernoobI'm back. managed to install ubuntu but have a new problem. My  Video-Card is a old NVidia GeForce4 440 Go 64m. I know where and how to get legacy drivers for debian, but i cant find them for ubuntu. can i just use the same package?11:42
xfaboxhi, some help with boot-repair?11:44
dh33p4nhi guys I wanna develop ubuntu app, where to get started, can any one point me to the rite information, thanks!11:46
ikoniadh33p4n: from what point are you starting11:46
ikoniaeg: do you know what languages you're going to use and just want the process to submit, or do you need to know how to write an app11:46
asdofindiaare ubuntu apps different from applications that run in ubuntu?11:47
dh33p4nikonia, I wanna use glade and python to develop desktop apps. I dunno how they work together11:47
asdofindiaoh, I for a second, thought ubuntu on phones will have apps like firefox os apps.11:48
ikoniadh33p4n: http://developer.ubuntu.com/11:49
dh33p4nthanks! ikonia11:50
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BlackAngelPRhi all , hola a todos11:57
mary_please help me in mysql connectivity with java11:57
ikoniamary_: what's the problem ?11:58
ikoniais it a connection problem with the infrastrcture or a code problem11:58
masterkorphello12:00
masterkorpwhat happened to systemctl ?12:00
BlackAngelPRhi12:00
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masterkorpI can't install systemd anymore from the official repos on 14.04 ?12:00
ikoniasystemd isn't part of ubuntu12:00
ikoniait uses upstart12:01
masterkorpi know that12:01
masterkorpbut it aint on the repos ? so i can use it as alternative service manager ?12:01
ikoniahow do you expect to use it, if it's not in the repos ?12:02
BlackAngelPRhttp://linuxg.net/how-to-install-and-test-systemd-on-ubuntu-14-04-trusty-tahr-and-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/12:02
ikoniaI certainly wouldn't be using a PPA12:02
IdleOnemasterkorp: I believe it is in the 14.10 development repos. but that is not supported in this channel12:03
ikoniaI certainly wouldn't pull it back from 14.10 either12:03
Guest14413masterkorp intall it by compiling etc!12:03
Guest14413dont wait repos12:03
ikoniaworst advice ever12:04
ikoniaI'd ignore that more than the others12:04
Guest14413-)12:04
masterkorpfuck it i will use runit12:04
ikoniano need for bad langauge12:05
IdleOneikonia: I agree. I was not trying to suggest mixing/pulling from 14.10. sorry if it sounded that way12:05
Adept-Hi, I am trying to install the latest LTS but the installer does not detect my SSD drive. Any advice ?12:06
masterkorpfuck it i will use runit12:08
* Guest14413 slaps masterkorp around a bit with a large trout12:08
ikoniaIdleOne not at all12:09
justanothernoobIs there a graphics driver that just runs? It doesn't have to run all that good, it just has to work. nouveau doesn't work. proprietary driver needs an older Xorg version. Too much hassle. There was one with 4 letters. Can anyone help?12:18
ShardvexzHello Vongjam!12:18
ShardvexzHello danecando!12:18
ikoniajustanothernoob: vesa12:18
ShardvexzHello bazhang!12:19
justanothernoobThat's it, thanks12:19
ShardvexzHello danecando!12:19
bazhangShardvexz, bot?12:19
ikoniaShardvexz: you don't have to greet each person12:19
ShardvexzHello Tjommi!12:19
ikoniaShardvexz: please don't do that12:19
Grefori could use a little help confuguring my keyboard if anyone willing12:19
bazhangseems like a greeter bot/script12:19
ShardvexzHello danecando!12:19
Tjommihahah12:20
will_wielderhi anyone in here12:30
* gas-sho shakes his head ;P12:30
p3rrorhow to remove access to a ssh user to mysql12:32
p3rrorI need that my user will not be able to run mysql command line12:33
Mathisenp3rror edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config  | add line  DenyUsers usename,username,username12:36
p3rrorMathisen: I need that my user will not be able to run mysql12:38
p3rrorMathisen: /etc/ssh/sshd_config will block access to ssh12:38
Mathisenp3rror sorry missunderstood the question12:43
broken-mindhello12:43
gr33n7007hp3rror, give #mysql ago12:45
ddtHello, can I limit ICMP with UFW in Ubuntu? I tried add rules for ICMP limit to after.rules or/and before.rules , but it didn't work.. Thanks12:50
cfhowlett!ufw12:51
ubottuUbuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has built-in firewall capabilities. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | GUI frontends such as Gufw also exist. | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo12:51
hikenboothi does anyone know if the ubuntu live cd is capabable of mounting an install and executing a shell into a ubuntu system built across multiple virtual drives for example / is /dev/sdb1 /boot is /dev/sda1 ...etc.etc12:56
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ikoniahikenboot: that's just mounting the disks12:56
ikoniano problem there at all12:56
hikenbootNo let me make it clear I am trying to repair the system12:57
ikoniayes, and it's not a problem to mount the disks and chroot into it12:57
groszekHi. does anyone know how to set default filters for unity launcher? eg. i want to disable music, but enable calculator12:58
hikenbootbut I would have to manually mount each disk as a directory then chroot into it right?12:58
ikoniahikenboot: correct12:58
hikenbootthe simple chroot directions wont work am I correct...its more than that when its across multiple disks??? yes no?12:58
ikoniahikenboot: it makes no difference how many disks it's under12:59
hikenboot_sorry ikonia got disconnected will happen again bad connection..can you attempt to answer my last question before it happens again?13:00
hikenboot_sorry to be a bother13:00
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ikoniahikenboot: it doesn't matter how many directories/disks your root is made up of, it has no impact or chroot13:01
awestrokeHow do I get icedtea in chromium-browser? I've tried both icedtea-6-plugin and icedtea-7-plugin, by symlinking into chrome's "plugins" folders, nothing works13:01
hikenboot_right but can I prebuild a /etc/fstab to do  it?13:01
ikoniahikenboot: you can mount anything in /etc/fstab13:01
ikoniaalthough why you want to do that, I have no idea13:02
hikenboot_ikonia, simply because I am going to have to do this over and over again.13:02
gebbionehi all13:05
gebbioneis there a good way to log all download request from a machine? for instance something like tcpdump to listen for requests to external resources?13:06
awestrokegebbione: for what purpose?13:07
gebbionei had a machine for which my hosting provider complaints that lots of data is being downloaded13:07
gebbioneso i would like to get an insight in what might do that13:08
gebbionethe machine is shared in the team13:08
gebbioneawestroke,13:08
awestrokegebbione: check crontabs, you might have some infection13:09
gebbioneno likely13:09
gebbionewe have jenkins13:09
awestrokehuh?13:09
gebbionebut i have no clue on how to spot what job/process might download lots of stuff13:09
gebbioneawestroke, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenkins_(software)13:09
Picigebbione: nethogs can provide realtime statistics of what processes are consuming the most bandwidth13:11
arunpyasihi guys13:16
arunpyasiis there any script which can call a keystroke ?13:16
vireshi13:17
vireshi13:17
arunpyasiis there any script which can call a keystroke ?13:18
jellowarunpyasi, What are you trying to do? is this for a gui app?13:19
arunpyasijellow: nope , I m wanting for bash script13:19
arunpyasior python13:19
legrandindoes anyone here know how to set the hostname of an ubuntu apache server13:20
arunpyasijellow: I am wanting to do the work of f5 ie for refresh using a script13:20
ThePhantomPhreakxsendkey13:20
Chaos_ZeroI was trying to install the sun gridengine package and some errors occurred. I think I fixed what was causing the errors, but even if I purge and install again, it will not give me the options screens that It did the first time I tried to install13:20
Chaos_Zerohow can I reconfigure a package?13:20
Grefordpkg-reconfigure?13:21
Chaos_Zeroit gives one of the screens but not the rest... what I really want is to just delete all the options and start from scratch13:22
six86hello. For a few systems we want to have a keylogger recording every keystroke made (research systems where a lot of people are working on, to have a log/diary) but for remote access with teamviewer the keystrokes are not recorded, is there another solution than logkeys that is capable of logging everything?13:22
Chaos_Zeroanything stronger then purge? =D13:22
Greforthat i wouldnt know13:22
Greforsorry13:22
ThePhantomPhreaksix86: That's an infrigment of privacy, I recommend you desist13:23
Grefori was about to say the same13:24
six86ThePhantomPhreak: all people are informed and the keylogger will not be hidden at all. I feared that this would be the first answer I'm getting....13:24
ThePhantomPhreaksix86: People will feel obliged to agree since it's at their workplace. Still a massive privacy violation13:25
ThePhantomPhreaksix86: Please do not use Ubuntu for such a purpose, it's contrary to the philosophy of free software13:25
six86No it's not their workplace. These are isolated research machines.13:25
six86I'm just looking for a solution for the described proplem we have, it's not about a ethic discussion.13:26
ThePhantomPhreaksix86: Please read https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html13:26
cfhowlettsix86 can't help you. sorry.13:27
Greforuhm to be frank wasnt there a thing in ubuntu that would send all searches to amazon or something?13:27
cfhowlett!unity|Grefor13:27
ubottuGrefor: Unity is the default UI since Ubuntu 11.04.  Unity is a shell for GNOME. see http://unity.ubuntu.com. For a GNOME 2-like experience, see !notunity13:27
six86ThePhantomPhreak: I don' get your point...  logkeys is GNU software, if not using for this purpose for what else?!13:28
cfhowlettGrefor still a FAR cry froma  key logger13:28
jellowsix86,  There is xmacro (  apt-cache show xmacro ) , not sure if that would fit your needs.13:29
ThePhantomPhreaksix86: It's intended for personal use, not for surveillance13:29
Greforwell atleast your keyboards work13:30
Grefori cant get my layout right13:30
six86It is personal use, it is simply very helpful to have a diary of the embedded research machine. It's not like theres browsing or mails or something. Just configuration and setting up...13:30
six86but that's not what I want to discuss here.13:30
m1dnight_cant you just use the hist then for each user?13:31
m1dnight_or something like that13:31
ThePhantomPhreakThat's how it starts, with benevolent intentions, until you're wiretapping someones phone13:31
ThePhantomPhreakThe abuse of power is a slippery slope13:31
Grefor"road to hell is paved with good intentions"13:31
jellow!ot | ThePhantomPhreak13:31
ubottuThePhantomPhreak: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!13:31
Greforanyone familiar with keyboard layout?13:33
Greforquestion marks are dashes andquoyes its driving me nuts13:34
m1dnight_perhaps azerty?13:35
m1dnight_I'm working on azerty13:35
m1dnight_what does pressing 8 do?13:35
Grefor(13:36
Greformine qwert13:36
Greforqwerty13:36
m1dnight_oh, okay then I can't help you13:36
m1dnight_I bet there are tools online that can tell you (like the installer for ubuntu)13:36
six86jellow: xmacro terribly slows down the mouse movement13:37
Greforim using dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration but no luck thus far13:37
nethleki need some help with my bluetooth headset (getting only static), am i in the right place?13:39
cfhowlett!bluetooth | nethlek13:40
ubottunethlek: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup13:40
nethlekno i got it set up alright, but for whatever reason im getting no sound out of it, only static noise13:41
teaqhello, can anyone help me out with installing fglrx drivers? something went wrong http://pastebin.com/SLp0xkEn13:42
Laurenceb__hi13:43
Grefor!keyboard | Grefor13:43
ubottuGrefor, please see my private message13:43
Laurenceb__can anyone help me connect to a windows printing system?13:43
Laurenceb__im struggling to work out what my username will be13:44
Laurenceb__ive connected to the print server, but its refusing my username13:44
Laurenceb__i suspect i need to add ad\\<username>13:44
Laurenceb__or something like that, does anyone know13:45
jellowsix86, for what ever reason xmacrorec is buggy did you try xmacrorec2 ?13:47
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six86jellow: Thats much better13:49
jjavaholiclooking for a crocodile clips like program for linux will consider all suggestions13:51
ThePhantomPhreakjjavaholic: What is that?13:52
Picijjavaholic: uh.. what would such a program do?13:52
cfhowlett"crocodile clips" ????13:52
teaqhello, can anyone help me out with installing fglrx drivers? something went wrong http://pastebin.com/SLp0xkEn13:52
jjavaholicit did alot, circuit diagram, PCB diagrams13:53
jjavaholicand testing13:54
nethlekuhm... hello? i still need help13:54
ActionParsnipjjavaholic: tried diag13:55
ActionParsnip!info diag13:55
ubottuPackage diag does not exist in trusty13:55
ActionParsnipHmm13:55
cfhowlett!info dia13:55
ubottudia (source: dia): Diagram editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.97.2-15ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 158 kB, installed size 586 kB13:55
nethleki cant get my bluetooth headset to work, all i get is static. reading the manual on how to set up a bluetooth device didnt help - its already set up, just not working13:55
ActionParsnipThats it13:56
ActionParsnipAlso13:56
ActionParsnip!info pcb13:56
ubottupcb (source: pcb): printed circuit board (pcb) design program - meta-package. In component universe, is optional. Version 20110918-9 (trusty), package size 1 kB, installed size 21 kB13:56
cfhowlettActionParsnip PCB sounds spot on for jjavaholic's request13:56
ActionParsnipWord13:56
Picijjavaholic: geda looks good too, although I haven't used it myself.  It looks a bit like Eagle to me.13:56
Pici!info geda13:57
ubottugeda (source: geda-gaf): GPL EDA -- Electronics design software (metapackage). In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.8.2-4 (trusty), package size 1 kB, installed size 21 kB13:57
jjavaholicI always thought dia was mainly used for UML class diagrams.13:57
Impossiblenethlek: strange, my bluetooth headset works and I just finished installing ubuntu... Only problem is the quality is terrible13:57
nethlekit took me a long time to even get that thing connected and even longer to have any sound come out of it at all, but static isnt what i was going for13:57
ActionParsnipnethlek: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload13:58
ActionParsnipjjavaholic: try it, its free to try13:58
nethlekhang on, ill enter that into the terminal and copy&paste what happens13:59
jellowsix86,  I was playing around with it, works very well. (xmacrorec2 > record)  then play back using (xmacroplay -d 60 "$DISPLAY" < record)13:59
nethlekhttp://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=0f394d86625056fa772e982ca5868f9d75113adf13:59
nethlekgave me this link13:59
six86jellow: It goes in the right direction. I just would have to find a way to have it running in background and the thing with the Stop Key is a problem because it can only be a single key. In my scenario i don't want to get the recording stopped if someone pressed the key14:01
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six86The easiest way would be logkeys, if it would be able to log everything and not just the hardware keyboard14:02
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ActionParsnipnethlek: 13.10 is EOL next month. You may want to consider upgrading, either online or via a clean install14:04
ActionParsnip!away > Ilyes512|Away14:04
ubottuIlyes512|Away, please see my private message14:04
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nethlekwhat does EOL mean? and i've heard 14 is breaking a lot of features and that vlc media isnt working with it, so right now, i rather stay here14:05
ThePhantomPhreakEnd of Life - unsupported, will no longer receive security/bug fixes14:06
nethlekk14:06
jellowsix86, you can define an exit key with the -k parameter ,  xmacrorec2 -k 24 > record ( for the letter q to exit ). Would not be hard to disable re-enable a key although not perfect14:07
nethlekstill, im just trying to get my headset to work. i only have a few more days to decide whether i keep  or return it, but without knowing the sound quality, i cant really make that decision14:08
nethlekdid the file on alsa-project.com yield any answers?14:09
nethlekuhm... hello?14:15
cfhowlettnethlek your question is seen ... patience14:15
nethlekalright, alright, i've never been here before; don't know how you guys handle it. just wanted to make sure i didnt get forgotten14:17
cfhowlett!patience > nethlek14:17
ubottunethlek, please see my private message14:17
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nethlekhow do i see private messages14:19
ThePhantomPhreakThey should just appear in your IRC client, usually in a new tab14:19
cfhowlettnethlek depends on your IRC client14:20
nethlekusing xchat14:20
The0x539though some bad clients show it in-channel14:20
cfhowlettnethlek new tab14:20
nethleki got it14:20
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The0x539but generally it's a tab similar, but not identical, to a channel14:20
The0x539k14:20
nethlekbbl, hopefully i dont get timed out14:25
m1dnight_which music player do you guys recommend for huge libraries? I have my music seperated in folders properly14:31
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m1dnight_and the tags are somehwat in order14:31
m1dnight_if I can ask here :)14:31
m1dnight_I tried clementine but it seems a bit outdated14:31
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awestrokem1dnight_: the clementine version in ubuntu repos is outdated, try the version from the website14:32
m1dnight_oh okay14:32
m1dnight_will do14:32
ThePhantomPhreakWhen aren't the repos outdated? :'(14:33
m1dnight_yes indeed, Eclipse for example14:33
m1dnight_it's antique almost14:33
m1dnight_I wonder why that is14:33
marrioheloo14:34
marrioi have a qestion please help me14:35
cfhowlett!ask|marrio14:35
ubottumarrio: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience14:35
ThePhantomPhreakmarrio: One sec, activating my telepathy device14:35
infinity1!patience14:35
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/14:35
geniimarrio: Best to just ask your question to the channel and then see if someone takes up an answer14:36
marrioi hame call of duty mw3 the prob is not running wery good on my ubuntu14:37
marriothe grafic is wery bad14:37
marriowhay14:37
marriobut on my windows is runing wery good14:37
marrioplease sombody help14:39
Weeperhow can i get UBUNTU printed Tshirt for free?14:40
Weeper:)14:40
geniimarrio: The simplest answer is: It's not written for Ubuntu, but for Windows. So it will never work on Ubuntu the same way it works on Windows14:40
m1dnight_Weeper: you get the fucking software for free. Pay for the shirt. I did as well.14:40
marriomy game is running wery bad whay?14:40
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cfhowlettmarrio exactomundo14:40
geniim1dnight_: Language, please14:41
m1dnight_Weeper: It's a cheap shirt and the quality is awesome14:41
m1dnight_sorry genii14:41
cfhowlett"shirt"?  definitely not an ubuntu issue14:41
ScratchyHello everybody14:41
m1dnight_"ubuntu wear", why not?14:41
Weeperm1dnight :)14:41
cfhowlettWeeper "no free shirt" but you can download the logo's and get it printed yourself.14:42
ScratchyFirst time on Irssi through SSH :) Im a happy camper14:42
geniiWeeper: Why not just save some money and buy one from the Ubuntu Shop, or else have it made locally by a t-shirt printing company.14:42
Scratchykinda cool getting and giving all the support I need through IRC ... happy that it is still alive14:42
marriomy game is running very bad  please help14:43
Weeperdoes have worldwide delivery?14:43
m1dnight_Weeper: I bought it from Belgium, so probably yes14:43
Picimarrio: are you using Wine to play?14:44
marrioyes14:44
m1dnight_Weeper: the site (shop.canonical.com) says it is worlwide14:44
Picimarrio: Look in the Wine appdb, and ask in #winehq14:44
marrioon windows is running no prob and on ubuntu not14:44
cfhowlettmarrio your game is written for windows.  WINE only approximates windows.14:44
robynatasteam is good one14:45
cfhowlett!wine > marrio14:45
ubottumarrio, please see my private message14:45
marriothe grafic card is running wery bad probably because is windows game14:46
cfhowlettmarrio ask in #winehq.  not an ubuntu problem14:47
CREEEPEREXPLOSIVholaaaaaaaaaaaaaa14:48
marriook guys14:48
Weeperm1dnight_  tell me something about quality t-shirt?14:48
cfhowlettCREEEPEREXPLOSIV please stop.  a simple "hello"14:48
CREEEPEREXPLOSIVhello14:48
m1dnight_Weeper: the quality of the t-shirt is excellent. Its soft. So soft I want to cuddle it all day. (Seriously, very soft) and the print is very thick so it'll last a long time14:49
m1dnight_worth its money twice or three times14:49
m1dnight_period.14:49
m1dnight_and you get to support ubuntu \o/14:49
* m1dnight_ is gonna shut up because he doesnt want to be told he's off-topic-ing again14:49
Weeperm1dnight_ how musch cost shipping from shop.canonical.com?14:50
Weeperi'm from Bosnia and Herzegovina14:50
robynata:-S  my ubuntu verry smooth and beutifull14:50
robynatanever get problem from 14.04 alpha:-*14:51
m1dnight_Weeper: Order your shirt and they will tell you on checkout before you pay. But just because I'm so nice I checked it out for you and it's 6 pounds (10 dollars perhaps?)14:51
ThePhantomPhreakWeeper: Sorry you lost the football14:52
atulhey any facebook chat application for ubuntu..plz except empathy14:55
BeldarWeeper, It's ah beautiful tee shirt I'm sure however we are not assoc with canonical, but volunteers on ubuntu support. ;)14:55
bcvery!pidgin | atul14:59
ubottuatul: The Instant Messenger client Pidgin (formerly Gaim) (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Pidgin) supports MSN, XMPP (Jabber, GTalk and variants), AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ, YIM, IRC and others. See also !Kopete14:59
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one23hello! i have a problem here. if you are kind. trying to make vncserver up and runing i followed a tutorial and give some commands in terminal. one of them, maybe this one: sudo apt-get install gnome-core gnome-session-fallback changed the whole interface, stuff like icons. i have 14. do you know how do i get back to default interface? i have the link to the tutorial15:00
atulubottu: thnks will15:00
archonelhello, need some help i have a software in python which is supposed to open sockets but it seems its being limited to 102415:00
archoneli have set ulimit to 65k15:01
archoneli see in "/proc/4695/" no more than 1024  folders15:01
archonelanybody have an idea ?15:01
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archonelulimit -n = 6553515:02
atuldont know15:02
linuxuz3rgparted doesnt support hfs?15:02
atulping www.google.com15:02
The0x539you're doing it wrong15:02
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reddit-sysadmin>.>15:02
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The0x5392001:4860:4860::888815:02
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archonelanyone ?15:04
archonel:)15:04
m1dnight_archonel: not to be rue, but I found a few hits on SO using Google15:05
m1dnight_there seems to be an OS limit imposed15:05
m1dnight_"for linux: cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max"[1~15:05
archonelm1dnight_, i know, i googled this 2 weeks and tried everything15:05
grodtwhats up fellers15:05
archonel/proc/sys/fs/file-max = 245122815:05
m1dnight_strange15:06
m1dnight_and ulimit -a?15:06
archonelulimit -n = 6553515:06
archonelwant me to paste -a ?15:06
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ScratchySo anybody from Cork ?15:06
atulklshdwskd wu15:06
atul sdolsa15:06
atuls15:06
atulds;15:06
atuls15:06
atul;15:06
unopasteatul you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted15:06
bcvery!ot | Scratchy15:06
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archoneli used to use CentOS and switched to Ubuntu since i heard its better (faster) under load15:07
Beldarlinuxuz3r, This a windows or apple computer?15:07
archonelbut i got stuck here and everybody is on my case :(15:07
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MonosolHey everyone. I've been trying to get my Realtek 8723BE wireless card to work with ubuntu. So far, it hasn't happened with any drivers I've tried.15:07
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Beldar!mac | linuxuz3r this should start you15:08
ubottulinuxuz3r this should start you: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a Mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages15:08
archonelbesides limit and file-max what else can limit the nr of open files ?15:08
grodtanyone here work with avionics15:08
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m1dnight_archonel: I'm not sure anymore.15:10
m1dnight_Let me google a bit15:10
Beldargrodt, Can you get to the actual issue?15:10
m1dnight_archonel: so it is Python that gives you an error "too many open files" ?15:10
grodtI wanted to know what would be the best way for a user to load files onto an ubuntu media server15:11
grodtthe easiest way15:11
holsteingrodt: depends..15:11
m1dnight_something like ftp grodt ?15:11
archonelm1dnight_, exactly15:11
holsteingrodt: locally with a filemanager, if possible would be fast.. ssh on a network.. depends on many factors15:11
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m1dnight_archonel: I'm not sure, but perhaps it's due to the user?15:12
m1dnight_Have you tried running it as root?15:12
m1dnight_(Im just guessing here..)15:12
archonelno15:12
archonelthe user has the limit set to "65535"15:12
grodtholstein: m1dnight_  hmm the user would be typically a 50-60 year old who would not be familiar with ssh15:13
m1dnight_hahahaha15:13
m1dnight_I mean user in terms of linux users15:13
grodtits for owners of business jet aircraft15:13
holstein17:00 < archonel> hello, need some help i have a software in python which is supposed to open sockets but it seems its being limited to 1024 .. this is your question?15:13
m1dnight_that's the one15:13
archonelholstein, yes15:13
red45923hi guys - looking for howto use mp3 files i have on my ubuntu box to make an audio cd that would play in a car etc something for a dumbo would be perfect :)15:14
holsteingrodt: the user will have to be "familiar" with whatever method you intend them to communicate with the server15:14
archonelholstein, have any ideas ?15:14
Beldar!brasero | red45923 an app15:14
holsteinarchonel: sure. ask the creator/maintainer of the software15:14
Beldar!info braseo | red4592315:14
ubottured45923: Package braseo does not exist in trusty15:14
red45923ah cool I have brasero already - so that does the trick?15:15
holsteingrodt: why not just let them keep the files locally on the machine? whats the goal of the media server? i argue, introducing a server for that user may be overkill15:15
archonelholstein, its a custom software developed in python, which gives an error "too many open files"15:15
Beldar!info brasero15:15
ubottubrasero (source: brasero): CD/DVD burning application for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 3.10.0-0ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 148 kB, installed size 1063 kB15:15
Beldarred45923, ^^^^^15:15
holsteinarchonel: sure.. ask the creators/maintainers for support for the applications15:15
archonelholstein, they say its an OS limit, that is why i am asking here15:15
Beldarred45923, heh, yeah you can burn cd's there15:16
m1dnight_archonel: have you tried this: https://coderwall.com/p/ptq7rw15:16
archonelholstein, like somehow ubuntu is limiting the user to 1024 files15:16
grodtholstein: they have movies on laptop for exmaple, but want to load files on to media server so it can stream to wifi devices like phones and tablets15:16
red45923thanks Beldar that is cool15:16
holsteinarchonel: ubuntu is not preventing or limiting anything in python15:16
m1dnight_(mind that the script is run as root, so that's what I meant earlier)15:16
holsteinarchonel: are you meeting the requirements the creator has?15:16
holsteingrodt: they can stream them from the laptop as a server.. but, you will need to show them *some* method to put the files on a server, or stream them15:17
Beldarred45923, I hit edit and turn off the md5sum check though, it saves time, at least on images.15:17
archonelholstein, yes i am meeting the requirements,  but i se dint he pid folder for this app15:17
holsteingrodt: ssh is a viable option.. ftp.. or samba15:17
holstein!samba15:17
ubottuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html15:17
archonelholstein, no more than 1024 files15:17
holsteingrodt: all of which have a learning curve15:17
grodtcool beans thanks15:18
archonelholstein, its like somehow ubuntu is limiting the nr of concurrent files to 102415:18
holstein17:17 < archonel> holstein, yes i am meeting the requirements,  but i se dint he pid folder for this app - please try again with this sentence15:18
archonelholstein, sorry, i went into the PID folder "/proc/4695/fd" and using ls -l | wc -l many times, i could not see a number bigger than 102415:19
holsteinarchonel: you can ask in a python community as well.. or a general linux or programming community15:19
archonelholstein, i did and they blamed it on the operating system :) that is limiting the application form opening more than 1024 sockets15:21
BlasterIs there any way to sync music from Ubuntu to iPhone?15:21
ThePhantomPhreakarchonel: They're correct, you need to set the limit higher15:21
Greforis there a tool that can visualise keymaps?15:21
BlasterWhy does it have to be so complicated to do so?  I don't want to jailbreak my phone to do that.15:21
holsteinarchonel: test and confirm that it *is* limiting or not15:21
red45923Beldar, thx for the tip15:21
BeldarBlaster, Like a auto sync?15:21
archonelThePhantomPhreak, where can i increase the lints, i tried "/etc/security/limits.conf " and /proc/sys/fs/file-max15:22
archonelam I missing something ?15:22
Beldarred45923, np15:22
holsteinarchonel: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7997012/python-asyncore-filedescriptor-out-of-range-in-select15:22
VRMac|WorkDoes anyone here use optimus?15:22
ThePhantomPhreakBlaster: Tried Banshee? http://banshee.fm/15:23
holsteinVRMac|Work: i have in the past.. i dont use that hardware anymore though15:23
BeldarVRMac|Work, Address the actual issue for help. ;)15:23
BlasterI just wanna get some new music on there.  Haven't been able to since I switched from Windows to Ubuntu.15:23
BlasterReally missing iTunes.15:23
archonelthe programmers claims the software is using "Twisted."15:23
holsteinBlaster: nothing about ubuntu is preventing apple from making that process easy for you in ubuntu/linux15:23
VRMac|WorkWell, I'm trying to get some help at http://askubuntu.com/questions/484097/no-devices-found-when-trying-to-use-nvidia-gpu but the only guy delivering information is absolutely dense.15:23
BeldarBlaster, you have not said what you have tried so we start here. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone15:24
holsteinBlaster: there are limitations you agreed to when purchasing the device.. i personally suggest trying to address this by sharing and sending information and date bewtween the iphone and your machine on the network15:24
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ThePhantomPhreakBlaster: iPhone compatibility is best with OS X, I suggest purchasing a Mac. Apple products tend to play nicely together15:25
holsteinBlaster: i have used an ftp server on an ipad before to access data from whatever os i choose.. there are other applicaions, such as dropbox, that can do this for you, if you are comfortable using them15:25
archonelholstein, we are using twisted already15:25
BlasterI can access the data on the iPhone, it mounts like a drive, but when I drag music on there, it's not recognized.  You have to use iTunes or something to sync it properly.15:26
holsteinarchonel: sure, friend.. just know that nothing in ubuntu is preventing you from running that application, and configuring your machine to use it, as you please15:26
holsteinBlaster: correct. thats the agreement you have entered with apple. that you will use itunes15:26
holsteinBlaster: they (apple) are free to release itunes for linux or whatever they choose.. but, they (apple) didnt promise you could use the iphone with linux/ubuntu.. you can find workarounds15:27
VRMac|WorkiPhones have never played nice with any GNU+Linux in my experience.15:27
holsteinBlaster: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone15:27
archonelholstein, well technically that is not true, ulimit or /proc/sys/fs/file-max can limit the number of open files, my question was more like are there any other places where a no pen file limit could be enforce in Ubuntu ?15:27
BlasterHalf the time I plug my iPhone in, Ubuntu completely freezes :D15:27
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holsteinarchonel: technically, it *is* true.. you can configure your os as you please15:28
holsteinarchonel: if you are editing the config as the creator intends, and its not working, it seems to me like the os is *not* the issue15:28
archonelholstein, you are right :)15:28
Blasterholstein, thanks for the link15:28
daftykinsBlaster: i would too if someone put an iPhone near me15:29
archonelholstein, so there are just those 2 places where the OS could restrict me from opening more files ?15:29
blizzowDoes anyone else here have an intel 7260 wireless card and run 14.04?15:29
holsteinarchonel: what would i do? ask the creator what os i am intended to use, and grab a live CD for that OS, and try and get to the bottom of what *exactly* the issue is.. from that situation, i feel i would learn to use the app with ubuntu15:29
holsteinarchonel: ubuntu is *not* resctricting anything, friend15:29
daftykinsblizzow: tends to be better to just ask the actual question15:29
Blasterdaftykins, I guess you're allergic to superior hardware, and extremely intuitive software?15:29
holsteinarchonel: it will depend on what the app is doing, and needs, as to how you will need to configure whatever OS you are using15:30
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blizzowI want to claw my eyes out because of the network stability issues I have with 14.04 and the 7260 card.15:30
daftykinsBlaster: oooooh dear. i'm not touching that convo with a bargepole15:30
Beldarblizzow, No comment on what you have tried, peruse here while waiting, http://askubuntu.com/search?q=14.04+intel+7260+15:30
archonelholstein, if i have the "ulimit -n set  to 1000" for user xxx running the app , that app will not opene more than 1000 sockets15:30
ThePhantomPhreakBlaster: If you like Apple devices so much, why do you not just use OS X with your phone? Asking genuinely, as I mostly use it rather than Linux15:30
blizzowdaftykins: I've been pretty thorough with those threads.15:31
holsteinarchonel: i understand that you are reading that from the developer, but you and i do not know that that is the only issue, friend15:31
archonelholstein, the problem is that i have set it to 65k and still i can not get more than 1024 open files ( the app opens sockets to remote servers) and it seems i can not open more than 102415:31
daftykinsblizzow: that wasn't me.15:31
BlasterThePhantomPhreak,  because I'm not really fond of OSX, I like iOS though.15:31
* Beldar chuckles15:31
holsteinarchonel: why do you have it set to 65k?15:31
CREEEPEREXPLOSIVhola15:32
archonelholstein, a random MAX number 6553515:32
Beldar!es | CREEEPEREXPLOSIV15:32
ubottuCREEEPEREXPLOSIV: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.15:32
blizzowHence, I have come here to vent about ubuntu saying the intel 7260 wireless is certified hardware for 14.04 (an LTS no less) yet there are boatloads of people experiencing difficulty staying connected.15:32
holsteinarchonel: dont set anything randomy.. configure *exactly* as the manufacturer intends15:32
CREEEPEREXPLOSIVlla he vueltttttoooooooooooooo¡15:32
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blizzowAs you can see, I just got f&&**** bounced ;)15:33
CREEEPEREXPLOSIVhi15:33
Beldarblizzow, Do not vent here, no emotion please, this is support not your therapist15:33
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holsteinblizzow: could be intel might actually get involved.. have you tried?15:34
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holsteinblizzow: the ubuntu certified setup doesnt mean the manufacturer has promised linux support.. its just that a few volunteers have tried to make sure we konw about the level of support15:35
archonelholstein, in conclusion we want to open more than 1000 connections, and python gives us an error "too many open files" >> the developer said we should increase the Openfile limit in our OS, nothing specific15:35
holsteinarchonel: ask themm for something specific15:36
holsteinarchonel: nothing in ubuntu is preventing, nor, specifically able to arbitrarily facilitate support for that application15:36
holsteinarchonel: ask *specifically* what you are intende to do to run the application they support.. unless they do not provide support for the application15:37
m1dnight_archonel: Have you tried the script I linked you?15:37
Piciholstein: actually Ubuntu Certified means that Canonical has actually tested that hardware and has certified that it works well on Ubuntu.15:37
Piciholstein: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/15:37
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holsteinPici: then who is responsible? becuase there *is* breakage15:38
holsteinPici: where should blizzow go for support?15:38
MonosolDoes anyone in the channel run the latest version with the Realtek8723BE card provided by Clevo/Lenovo?15:39
Piciholstein: I don't know... /me checks15:39
Piciholstein: although the cerfiication pages do say that 12.04 is the reference release they are testing against... I wonder if that has anything to do with the issues15:40
holsteinPici: i'll PM you about it?15:40
BeldarMonosol, https://www.google.com/search?q=Realtek+8723BE+ubuntu&hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&gbv=1&sa=X&as_q=&spell=1&ei=CRCfU8fjOZL5oAT0ioDQAg&ved=0CBEQBSgA  I see a bug and threads here.15:41
Piciholstein: I'm poking some people about it...15:41
Beldarseems to be 14.04 problem per askubuntu15:42
Piciblizzow: Not sure if you saw above, but it looks like Ubuntu Certified hardware has been tested against 12.04, not 14.04.  I'm looking for clarification on how bugs for that should be filed though.15:43
Soapyhi15:43
SoapyIm running Ubuntu on a virtual box installation on findows15:44
Soapyis there a way to tell if my root password is wrong?15:44
ThePhantomPhreakSoapy: Yes, it won't let you login15:44
PiciSoapy: There is no root password by default.15:44
BeldarSoapy, root password or user password?15:44
Soapysoap@Testapta:~$ su root15:44
SoapyPassword:15:44
Soapysu: Authentication failure15:44
Soapyis what i get with any attempted password15:45
Soapyso that means the passsword is wrong?15:45
Pici!root | Soapy15:45
ubottuSoapy: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo15:45
BeldarSoapy, Try to post all in ine line please15:45
Beldarone*15:45
blizzowPici, I did miss some of the above because I was getting disconnected from my wireless.  Strangely, when I google "7260 ubuntu certified" the third entry is a Luanchpad bug saying "no intel wireless 7260 suport on 12.04.03"15:45
holsteinblizzow: you did find a bug report?15:48
Soapyok thanks thats complicated it works though15:49
blizzowholstein: I did tack onto another bug report already.15:49
holsteinblizzow: thats really the "Best" course of action.. if you can find a bug tracker at intel, i would use that as well.. as far upstream as possible.. even with debian if possible15:50
BeldarSoapy, You want to be aware tat ubuntu is not designed to be run in root, it's not debian and others that do easily, you can mess up permissions....etc15:50
Beldarthat*15:50
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blizzowholstein: yeah... well pushing forth to the 3.14 kernel does not seem to have fixed my issue :(15:51
holsteinblizzow: may not.. though, following up with the bug reports would be the "best" way to get a patch, assuming one can be applied or is available..15:52
Soapyok thanks15:52
BeldarGuest66217, you are root and your IP is showing, not a safe use15:52
Nixilusyar15:53
Nixilusquick question, I am using linux heavily for the first time really... when I download and build a program from source, is there a general convention on where programs are stored on linux(ubuntu in particular),... say var, /home/user, /etc/ ? just not sure as im relatively new to this15:55
BeldarNixilus, Not really, and be sure you are not building what may already be in the repos15:55
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Nixilusglibc for valgrind15:56
blizzowholstein: I agree on the procedure, it's just extraordinarily disappointing to see such a busted LTS release with no real solution. :(15:56
Nixilus?15:56
Nixilusfor C debuging15:56
Nixiluswhen you 'update' it should already update the repos right?15:56
BeldarNixilus, THe ones ticked on yes15:57
daftykinsblizzow: i like that a hardware issue leads you to blame the OS15:57
daftykinsnot say, the component maker for their Linux drivers15:57
holsteinblizzow: sure. but, think of it like this.. the entire lts is *not* busted in any way.. its just that specific hardware (and other hardware, of course).. it could be that its just a revision of that hardware.. hardware suupport is challenging, and you were not promised linux support from intel15:58
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Beldarchanging another's opinions when based on some core value is a waste of time15:59
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NixilusOk so I am planning to just have programs installed in my /home/user/ ... thats ok? also when you run apt-get update, that updates repos? repos are consolidated resource to install things via apt-get install right? so If what Im looking for is not in repos. to curl and compile something from source is just as easy as anything else? thanks in advance for the input16:00
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cipher__I added a new entry to sources.list for mongo, and specified version =2.6.1 when installing, yet my mongo shell version displays 2.4.8 every time (which is specified in the Packages file) ?16:02
daftykinsNixilus: the whole point of a package manged OS is to get packages where possible, sometimes you may find PPAs instead for packages you want though, yes16:02
Nixilussorry for the detailed questions... i just dont want to be one of those ppl who just "use" ubuntu, I want to understand it better, especially because im trying to learn C... the hard way16:02
BeldarNixilus, Ubuntu has multiple repos, not one, some may be on or off in your sources.list16:02
cipher__i purged and reinstalled16:02
daftykinscipher__: if "apt-cache showpkg <package>" reports a specific version after "apt-get update", that's the version that'll go on. perhaps the priority order of your repos is wrong, or maybe the repo you added isn't right for your system.16:03
daftykinscipher__: you're aware that edits to sources.list are considered in the order they appear in the file?16:03
Beldarcipher__, ppa's and 3rd party repos and there apps are not supported here technically16:03
Nixilusto your knowledge Is Valgrind and glibc (valgrind dependancy) in a repository? I want to make sure not just missing something >_<16:05
PiciNixilus: valgrind is definitely in the repositories16:05
cipher__daftykins: "Provides: 2.6.2 2.6.1" etc16:05
Nixilusdamn16:05
Nixilussorry16:05
cipher__it doesn't even list 2.4.816:05
blizzowholstein: and daftykins, I'm not blaming the lack of HW support.  I am also not saying the LTS distro is broken.  I am saying there is something busted in the ubuntu methodology of releasing an "LTS" that has such a major regression in it.16:05
Nixilusim doing something wrong then16:05
BeldarNixilus, In your reasoning you have your horse following your cart.16:06
cipher__Beldar: well, i prefer mid engines myself16:06
Beldarcipher__, bicycle here16:07
daftykinsblizzow: right, which is a claim you can't support because you don't know where the issue lies?16:07
holsteinblizzow: but, the lts, and all other aspects of linux/ubuntu are open, and its open for the creators and vendors of the hardware to get involved and provide support.. which is what we are seeing more often.. at the end of the day, the creators didnt promise you linux support, so you must be comfortable providing it yourself16:07
cipher__Actually, when i just installed (again), it showed 2.6.2 and 2.6.1 as installing16:07
cipher__yet the shell is displaying 2.4.816:07
daftykinscipher__: likely it has installed under a slightly different name then16:08
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blizzowdaftykins: I'm pretty sure I know the issue lies in the kernel/firmware choice the ubuntu devs made.16:08
daftykinsblizzow: firmware provided by intel you mean?16:08
blizzowholstein: the certification process is not something that I as the end user hardware purchaser can take part in.16:09
Nixilusso apt-cache showpkg valgrind     will allow me to search the repos for the right package then16:10
holsteinblizzow: when you bought that hardware, a company paid a group of professionals to test and provide support for a certain operating system.. when you decide to use a different, and unsupported operating system, you are taking that responsibility on16:10
invincea_using crontab i want to just "visit" a url, would i do that? i have a script that needs to be run every few minutes16:10
Nixilusgot it16:10
Nixiluscool16:10
invincea_wget?16:11
Nixilusmust have mis-spelled it the first time16:11
Nixilus>_<16:11
daftykinsinvincea_: or curl16:11
iptableinvincea_, "just visit url"?16:11
PiciNixilus: just using apt-get install valgrind will install it, or use apt-cache search valgrind to look for packages that match that.16:11
BeldarNixilus, Open software sources and make sure you have the appropriate repos open.16:11
iptableinvincea_, use wget. wget http://www.google.co.uk/16:11
daftykinsNixilus: you can always use graphical package managers too16:11
blizzowdaftykins: you mean the multiple working versions that exist at wireless.kernel.org?  Yes, the ubuntu dev and release team had the opportunity to test with and choose a functioning version before releasing an "LTS".16:11
holsteinblizzow: it can be a different revision as well.. which could have a different chipset.. the manufacturer would only need to release a different windows driver to support all the different revisions, and be compliant with the agreement they have16:12
daftykinsblizzow: that topic aside, since it seems we can't sway you from your inaccurate opinion on who to blame... it's interesting that that card should give trouble as i believe system76 sell laptops with 14.04 64-bit installed with that card16:13
Beldarexternalizing blame is a core value, it will not be changed here, stop helping them16:14
BlasterAnyone know of a video card that supports 3 video outputs and is well supported by Ubuntu?16:14
iptableblizzow, the features of your buggy card are well supported :P16:16
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Nixilusho man, thanks for all the hlep, Ive used ubuntu ("plebily") in the past but never really took time to understand it or learn command definitions tried to learn C++ on Windows. A friend finally told me "No, Terabad! use linux and dont depend on IDEs.... he pointed me to http://c.learncodethehardway.org/book/ ... lol.. Im finally having to kick it up into a higher gear >_<16:17
philinuxSWAP - is there anything more up to date than this anywhere > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq16:17
Beldarphilinux, what is your end goal?16:18
daftykinsphilinux: things in that regard don't change much16:18
holsteinblizzow: i like the system76 idea above.. i would think, assuming that *is* the exact hardware revision, they (system76) would respond to an email about the device16:18
iptableblizzow, the card works, what is your exact problem? most people who complain about their wireless cards find at the end that the cards did not work well with their AP, changing the access point to another make/model resolves most people's issues (after hours of arguing that "it can't be that, works with my phone")16:19
philinuxBeldar;~  daftykins Most machines have much more ram and larger disks than in the faq. It's well out of date now16:19
blizzowdaftykins: you say I should blame intel, or the linux kernel devs for the LTS kernel and firmware choice when there are versions of the firmware and kernel that work fine?16:19
Beldar<Beldar> philinux, what is your end goal?16:19
daftykinsblizzow: i really don't care who you blame, just as long as we don't have to hear about it in here.16:19
philinuxBeldar;~ to find up to date info16:20
Beldarif you stop answering them they will go away or get quited or banned16:20
Beldarquieted16:20
iptableis ndiswrapper still under development?16:21
Beldarphilinux, Sounds like OCD swap is swap not much to really know to be honest.16:21
holsteiniptable: AFAIK16:21
iptableintel 7260 with ndiswrapper then if problems otherwise16:22
philinuxBeldar;~ peeps ask me about swap. I refer them to the faq's and they say but I have 8 gig ram etc etc16:23
Beldarphilinux, 8 0r 1000 no difference in use16:23
philinuxBeldar;~ there is if its a small ssd and they want to hibernate etc etc16:24
Beldarphilinux, swappiness is probably the key here.16:24
iptablephilinux, do you want to support hibernation on your machine? Then your whole RAM needs to fit in swap + some space for stuff that gets swapped out normally if not used for a while. Rule of thumb would be 1.5xRAM. So for 8GB RAM 12GB SWAP should be fine.16:24
Beldarphilinux, well known equal to ram or slightly larger16:25
iptablephilinux, alternatively, if you want to use SWAP for hibernation only, turn swappiness down to 0 and have swap the size of RAM (+ a few bytes just in case)16:25
Beldariptable, 0 is not exactly correct16:25
blizzowiptable: I'm using multiple cisco aironet 2600 series APs connected to a cisco wireless lan controller.  None of my connection issues happened until I upgraded to the latest version of ubuntu.  After the upgrade, I can't even connect to an airport express access point.16:25
tyrel_hello16:26
iptableBeldar, vm.swappiness = 0 The kernel will swap only to avoid an out of memory condition16:26
lotuspsychjetyrel_: welcome16:26
Beldari'ts not that exacting at that numerical value it will swap still16:26
tyrel_mucking around in ubuntu, not sure what i'm doing16:26
iptableblizzow, try ndiswrapper and report back.16:27
Beldariptable, If you read up on this 0 is never suggested is all.16:27
lotuspsychjetyrel_: this is the right place for an ubuntu question :p16:27
iptableBeldar, well, 0 works on my laptop perfect. 16GB of RAM, I don't care about swap. having said that hibernation takes so long, I don't do that either16:27
Beldariptable, Ah, works for you, cool, but do the research if you help here is all. ;)16:28
lotuspsychjeiptable: ive set swappiness on 10 (for my ssd)16:28
iptableBeldar, researching and any OOM issues with swappiness are onloy quotes for 2.x kernels. none for 3.x where behaviour changed16:29
iptablelotuspsychje, I don't have ssd. It's a laptop with 1 2TB HDD16:29
Beldarmindless ego jousting geez16:29
iptableBeldar, well I'm more than happy to never advise people to put it to 0 if you can give me a link for that.16:30
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lotuspsychjeiptable: http://askubuntu.com/questions/103915/how-do-i-configure-swappiness16:32
iptablelotuspsychje, so swappiness 10 is about 80-90% full RAM. Well, with 4GB of RAM I would probably consider that actually. With 16GB of RAM, if I run out of RAM, I am doing something wrong.16:34
thesebhelp! I woke up this mornin and all my icons are numbered and there is a "t" on my trash can...what gives?16:34
thesebis this preschool mode i just activated? :)16:34
iptabletheseb, uhm, as in the icons have small numbeers on them?16:34
Beldar!details | theseb16:34
ubottutheseb: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)16:34
thesebiptable: YES!16:34
iptabletheseb, nice effect.16:35
lotuspsychjeiptable: i just tweak as much as i possibly can, on recommended settings so swappiness 10 works for me16:36
thesebubottu, Beldar, iptable: see http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2014-06-16_11_34_58-iUrS1Utd.png  ..is this a new "feature" ?16:36
ubottutheseb: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)16:36
ana_Hey, can someone help me to get google chrome to autostart on initial boot?16:36
daftykinslol16:36
daftykinstheseb: press left alt16:36
holsteinana_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/459277/how-do-i-make-a-program-auto-start-everytime-i-log-in-in-ubuntu-14-0416:36
lotuspsychjeiptable: i also use, fstab ssd tweaks, quiet splash off,daily trim and preload16:37
thesebdaftykins: i pressed both....same :(16:37
iptabletheseb, apparently these are the icon numbers your press while holding "Super" to quickly open them16:37
holsteintheseb: have you logged out and back in?16:37
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daftykinsoh it's super? *shrug* :D16:37
iptabletheseb, as to why the numbers actually show, must be a setting somewhere? tried turning it off and on again? ;)16:37
=== Dieltjes is now known as Dieltjens
iptabledaftykins, windows/super/tux button. choose a name ;)16:37
thesebholstein: i *did* clean my keyboard which entails pressing all keys haphhazardly...could that have hosed my desktop?16:37
daftykinsiptable: i meant versus 'alt' which i thought it was, yes i'd always refer to it as super to be platform agnostic16:38
holsteintheseb: yes. you should do that when the keyboard is unplugged16:38
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holsteintheseb: you didnt "hose" anything.. you just asked for the functionality that is present.. have you rebooted? or logged out and back in?16:38
thesebok..i shall restart X win.....sec16:38
iptabletheseb, most likely yes. your "super" and other keys might be stuck. 1. unplug keyboard, 2. press all buttons firmly (but don't bang the keyboard). 3. plug it in, 4. reboot machine16:39
thesebSUCCESS!!!16:39
thesebthanks guys16:39
iptableno probs :D16:39
thesebnew motto..."When in doubt...reboot it out"16:39
holsteintheseb: i think it should be, unplug the keyboard and other devices while cleaning..16:40
thesebholstein: i put it in screen lock but that isn't sufficient16:40
iptableand turn it off16:40
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Beldartheseb, I would shut down honestly16:41
iptabletheseb, one of your keys got stuck in "on" state in the buffer most likely16:41
ana_@holstein I'm using xubuntu, didn't seem to help, I already tried going to session and startup and adding google chrome to the auto start list16:41
thesebk thanks again16:41
holsteinana_: http://xubuntugeek.blogspot.com/2011/12/add-application-to-xfcexubuntu-session.html16:41
thesebBeldar: you mean you shut down the entire PC when cleaning the kb?16:42
iptableana_, in xubuntu "session and startup" does exactly that16:42
holsteintheseb: yes.. or unplug the device you are cleaning..16:42
thesebi didn't realize random key presses could be soo......"dangerous"16:43
Beldartheseb, Yes, and have your air can to make sure no moisture is in any contacts, just a safe use plan.16:43
iptabletheseb, this will be very relevant to you http://xkcd.com/237/16:43
holsteintheseb: or, just dont assume somehow a new feature or change has been pushed to the OS.. when you are doing something like that that you dont typically do on a regular basis16:43
* iptable goes for a dinner16:44
Beldartheseb, We do not know how you are cleaning, for example I have alcohol wipes for glasses, safe to use with computer on, but a sprayed liquid I would shut down.16:44
thesebiptable: that's funny16:44
thesebBeldar: i spray a rag and wipe the wet rag on said kb16:45
holsteintheseb: thats what did it..16:45
Beldartheseb, I would just do it the way it seems safe.16:45
lmatvnc goes very slowly between an host and guest. How can I speed it up ?16:47
BeldarI usually clean the screen and keyboard together and just spray lightly so I shut down16:47
skinuxHow come Archiver GUI always extracts to a directory, but extracting via shell can put a bunch of files mixed up with unrelated files?16:47
lmatIn fact, it goes *much* faster between a remote computer (over internet) than it does between my host and my guest (vbox).16:47
blizzowlmat: use a wired connection on the same LAN?16:48
lmatblizzow: My two computers are in the same ... computer!!16:48
blizzowlmat: oh, well then...16:48
lmatblizzow: I have a vbox guest running Microsoft Windows, and he's the VNC client.16:48
lmatblizzow: I can't imagine getting much faster than that ^_^16:48
ana_iptable_, strange I went through session and startup already before to add chrome, which added the command "/home/ana/Desktop/chrome.desktop" but I restarted a few time and it won't auto start16:49
Beldarana_, use the bin on16:50
ana_what's bin on?16:50
Beldarana_ in computer /user/bin use the browse in start up to navigate there16:51
lmatana_: he probably means "the bin one" ^_16:51
lmatana_: And he means  /usr/bin ^_^16:51
blizzowlmat: Are you using NAT or bridged networking for your VM?16:52
lmatblizzow: NAT probably.16:52
lmatlet's seee16:52
lmatyup, nat, blizzow16:52
Beldarlmat, I meant bin on, it is a brower on so to speak16:52
linuxuz3ros es are so awesome16:52
blizzowlmat: you may want to switch to bridged and let your VM directly on your network.16:53
blizzow(if that's an option)16:53
lmatBeldar: I stand corrected!16:53
lmatblizzow: sure... there's no network though, the only communication is between host and guest (same computer) ^_^16:53
Beldarlmat, Heh, not really an accurate description on my part, just figured it made sense. ;)16:54
holsteinlmat: try setting up the other scenario that you prefer.. emulate it more closely..16:54
lmatholstein: I'm sorry, what do you mean ?16:55
Beldarlinuxuz3r, Do you have a support issue, that is what w do here?16:55
Beldarwe*16:55
holsteinlmat: i mean, if you are using vbox vnc server and some other client and its slow, but when you are on your network with other machines using "realvnc" and whatever else, and its faster.. setup the same servers and client that you seem to prefer and test the speed16:56
blizzowlmat: I thought you just said that communication was faster between your host and a remote computer over the internet?  Which machine doesn't have a network?16:56
lmatI see.16:56
blizzowThe VM or the Host?16:56
lmatI was trying to simplify things, but it just made them more confusing. Here's the *whole* story ^_^16:56
lmatMy colleagues work using Windows (over Lync, etc.)16:56
lmatI need to be able to share my screen (using Lync).16:57
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lmatI use ubuntu right now (14.04), and I have a Vbox Microsoft Windows 7 (running Lync)16:57
lmatWhen they ask me to share my screen, I start up x11vnc on Ubuntu, and realvnc viewer on Microsoft Windows.16:57
lmatI then share the realvnc viewer over Windows.16:58
lmatThere is a huge lag getting the graphical data from Ubuntu to Microsoft Windows even though they're on the same machine.16:58
lmatHowever, once the data shows up properly on the Virtual machine, they see the data almost instantly.16:58
blizzowlmat: like I said before, try bridged networking instead of NAT.16:58
holsteinlmat: i use something like nomachine16:58
lmatblizzow: Why ? You're thinking that latency will reduce with bridged networking ?16:59
holsteinlmat: putting the unit on your network, using the bridged setup that blizzow is suggesting, will facilitate you doing the xame setup though16:59
daftykinslmat: NAT = CPU overhead, bridged = simpler.16:59
daftykinslmat: the problem is, this conversation is a lot more virtualbox support than it is ubuntu support16:59
blizzowlmat: I think the TCP routing might also be getting a little munged.16:59
lmatholstein: I'll take a look at nomachine.17:00
lotuspsychjedaftykins: virtualbox is an official ubuntu package, why not talk here?17:00
lmatholstein: that doesn't look helpful ^_^17:00
daftykinslotuspsychje: since the product has its' own channel that makes more sense, no 0o17:01
lmatblizzow: You know what, Just for you, I'll use bridged.17:01
holsteinlmat: that?17:01
lmatblizzow: I can't fathom more latency using Nat over virtualbox, than the number of NATs that happen between me and Minnesota, etc.!17:01
holsteinlmat: its actually quite a bit "faster" than vnc connections..17:01
reisiovirtualization is not a tool you should choose if you're concerned with performance :p17:01
lmatreisio: aye :(17:02
reisioholstein: what, spice?17:02
holsteinvirtualization, nor vnc17:02
blizzowreisio: tell that to Amazon AWS and any cloud provider.17:02
reisiovirtualization: convenient, but inferior17:02
holsteinreisio: i was suggesting nomachine, since its typically faster and more native feeling than VNC17:02
lmatThere are basically two VNC sessions going on at the same time. One moving data from host to VBOX, and one moving data from VBOX to internet.17:02
skinuxDoes anyone use a small VM of Windows to run few apps that can't be reliably run under WINE?17:03
reisioblizzow: mmm, well they're more focused on abstracted hardware17:03
lotuspsychje!info nomachine17:03
ubottuPackage nomachine does not exist in trusty17:03
reisioblizzow: than virtualized hardware17:03
reisioholstein: ah :)17:03
lmatholstein: I don't want anything native feeling :)  I simply want to play a video of what I'm doing on my machine. No interaction.17:03
holsteinlotuspsychje: freenx would be in the official repos17:03
reisiolmat: I missed the beginning, whatcha want?17:03
lmatskinux: yes.17:03
holsteinlmat: it will be up to you to determine if the suggestion meets your needs17:03
Zentoocould you please test this URL, it's to simulate an audience on a web service: http://match-center.cdn.amisco.eu//Match/Match?guid=3D8DF9396CF429BF31B794826C400F06392852CA8ED8EB00963BDB822D18DA7A4C6D3A1721A90BA0F12AE374F971E2BF&codematch=ALMGN-PORTU-160614&language=en17:03
holsteinlmat: there may be other options that might be "faster" if you need no intereation..17:04
reisioif you want to play a video from a remote machine, then just sshfs -o Ciphers=arcfour -o Compression=no, and play it as usual17:04
lmatreisio: My coworkers use Microsoft Windows (Lync, office, etc.). I need to be able to share my desktop with them over Microsoft Lync.17:04
reisiolync? :/17:04
reisioeither way, don't reinvent the wheel, just use a network share17:04
reisiobe it via ssh(fs), or cifs, or whatever17:04
blizzowreisio: lmat is running a windows VM to connect to a vnc server session on his VM host.  He's having latency issues connecting from his VM to the host.17:04
reisioblizzow: can't imagine why :p17:04
lmatreisio: So, I created a virtual machine running Microsoft Windows 7 running Lync. When they ask me to share my desktop (like video, they want to see me interact with my machine, etc.),17:04
bwaHi17:04
reisiobwa: ohai :)17:05
lotuspsychjebwa: welcome17:05
reisiolmat: ah...17:05
lmatreisio: I start x11vnc on my Ubuntu host and vncviewer on Microsoft Windows. I then share the vnc viewer using Microsoft Lync.17:05
reisioah17:05
reisioyou may as well use rdp17:05
reisiosince it's Windows17:05
lmatholstein: '"faster" if you need no interaction'  Yeah, that might be good ^_^17:05
Beldarreisio, You have risen, Dr. Frankenstein fire yah up. ;)17:05
reisioor citrix17:05
reisioBeldar: fear my neck bolts17:05
Beldarlol17:06
blizzowreisio: then he'd have install xrdp  for linux on his vm host.  I don't know if nomachine or xrdp is more painful.17:06
reisios/f/ph,s/e/3,s/a/417:06
reisiono, you don't need the host at all17:06
bwaexit17:06
reisiothe host is just the host17:06
CREEEPEREXPLOSIVsi muy lol17:06
reisioall you need is rdp on the Windows install17:06
reisiowhich it probably already has17:06
lotuspsychjevnc and rdp are danger to use for safety, but thats offtopic17:06
reisiolotuspsychje: as is Windows :p17:06
daftykinsnothing wrong with RDP.17:06
lotuspsychjereisio: agree :p17:07
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lmatreisio: So I need the Microsoft Windows machine to view the Ubuntu desktop.17:07
reisiothere's lots wrong with rdp, but since he's already doing it wrong (windows, and virtualized), it's no more wrong :p17:07
reisiolmat: you need to share the host as well?17:07
reisiothe host's screen17:07
lmatreisio: Can I create an RDP (mstsc, right ?) server on ubuntu?17:07
holsteinlmat: the suggestions reisio are making are what i would be testing17:07
blizzowreisio: how would you suggest his VM connect back to his x11 session on the host?17:07
lmatreisio: no, no interaction from others.17:07
holstein!rdp17:07
reisiolmat: you can, but I'd need a good reason to, myself :p17:07
lmatreisio: They just want to watch me use my (ubuntu) computer over lync.17:07
lmatreisio: You're suggesting it, right ?17:07
reisioblizzow: I wouldn't ordinarily suggest that be done at all :p17:07
reisiolmat: ooooh17:08
reisiolmat: if you want one-click viewing, then use citrix or teamviewer17:08
reisiolmat: forget this VM guest nonsense17:08
reisiodon't need lync for that17:08
lmatreisio: I can't insist they stop using Microsoft Lync.17:08
reisioyou don't need to17:08
reisiocitrix works with a simple website link17:08
lotuspsychjereisio: i also would go for 1 time teamviewer, then uninstall again if you dont need anymore :p17:08
lmatreisio: I can't insist they use anything else, either ^_^17:08
reisiothey don't need to "install" anything in the traditional sense, which is probably all they're concerned with17:08
reisiolmat: they're already using browsers17:09
reisioteamviewer doesn't even need to be installed in the traditional sense, either17:09
reisionor citrix17:09
lmatreisio: I really think they won't think it's acceptable if they have to use something else...17:09
reisiolmat: why on earth? :p17:09
lmatreisio: team viewer is only gratis for non-business purposes.17:09
lmatreisio: yes. why on earth is right.17:09
holsteinlmat: you can test with it..17:09
reisiolmat: some things are simply not worth doing :)17:09
lmatreisio: These people can't imagine why on earth anyone would not use Microsoft Windows.17:09
lmatreisio: So I should quit? ^_^17:09
blizzowreisio: lmat needs to share his desktop to coworkers via lync.  teamviewer has some stupid time limits on sharing in the gratis version last time I checked.17:10
reisiowell I think citrix is gratis on a general fremium approach17:10
reisioso try that17:10
reisioblizzow: nah17:10
lmatreisio: I'm quite sure they won't use citrix.17:10
reisiolmat: it's the same as going to a website and clicking 'yes'17:10
lmatreisio: They don't want to have to do anything. They want to just sit there, and bam, my screen shows up.17:10
blizzowplus asking all his teammates to switch tools to share desktops with him is kind of a reach.17:10
reisioyes, well, that is not a quality you should cater to :p17:10
reisioanyways17:10
lmatreisio: If I were running things, they would be different. It makes me want to cry.17:10
reisioyou want to share ubuntu host from windows guest, via ms lync17:10
lmatreisio: yup :'(17:11
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reisiodon't frown on the internet, 'cept in #littlegirls :)17:11
lmatI gotta go get a phone charger from home :-/17:11
reisiothat's always going to be laggy, hrmm17:11
lmatreisio: I'll read everything when I get back if you think of anything ^_^17:11
lmatreisio: I wouldn't have thought so!  It takes like 5 seconds (or more!) to update the screen!17:11
reisiolmat: I haven't tested nx, but it'd probably be between that and xrdp17:12
reisiovnc most likely not17:12
blizzowlmat, what network card are you using in virtualbox?17:12
lmatblizzow: NAT. Does that answer the question ?17:12
reisioactually, I think the best way would be, again without any VM17:13
blizzowlmat, no, that does not.  That's the type of networking.  and as I suggested, you should probably try bridged.17:13
reisiojust screencast and stream your desktop17:13
reisiovia a web server17:13
reisioall they need is a browser or media player17:13
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lmatSo I'm looking for the fastest way to get a video feed of my desktop to a Microsoft Windows Virtual machine :(17:14
lmatI would have thought this would be blazing fast since it's not even leaving my machine!!17:14
holsteinlmat: teamviewer has nice "in browser" options17:14
blizzowlmat: There are also options for network card type, EG: intel/amd pcnet/...17:14
reisiolmat: http://www.google.com/search?q=how%20to%20screencast%20live17:14
lmatblizzow: It says "intel PRO/1000 MT Desktop"17:15
reisiothey won't care if you link them to a website with no clicks required17:15
blizzowlmat, try the virtio-net driver.17:15
reisiothey might even be impressed17:15
mirkois it intended that i don't see any wired connection options within the nm-menu anymore?17:15
blizzowlmat: and like I said, try Bridged and get the VM on the same network segment as your HOST and clients!17:16
mirkowired connections are listed in the connection-manager and plugging a cable in triggers an dhcp-client17:16
reisiomirko: you have a wire connected?17:16
reisioah17:16
mirkohowever how do i now manage profiles with static settings?17:16
mirkoi'm in environments where there's no dhcp17:16
mirkoeven my wired connection profiles from the previous ubuntu version are listed in the connection 5~manager17:17
mirkohowever i don't know to to activate/use them17:17
lmatblizzow: okay, changed network card driver17:17
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reisiomirko: might check irc.gnome.org for an nm channel17:18
lmatblizzow: You know... with NAT, I shouldn't be able to communicate client-to-HOST.17:18
mirkoreisio: thanks.. will try my best there17:18
lmatblizzow: I bet I *was* going over the internet with the stupid VNC data!17:19
blizzowlmat, what are the IP addresses of both the VM and the host?17:19
reisiomirko: not that you need to leave here, just FYI :)17:19
mirkoreisio: won't :)17:19
lmatblizzow: I should have two adapters: one NAT, and one host-only for VNC.17:19
reisiolmat: doesn't matter, it's not worth doing :D17:19
lmatokay, gotta go get the phone charger! I'll be back in less than an hour :(17:19
reisioand VNC _will_ be slower than other solutions17:19
reisioit's all images17:19
reisioonly way to make it similarly fast is to reduce quality17:19
reisioor make a huge buffer, defeating the purpose17:20
reisioffmpeg + web server, that's the ticket :)17:21
lotuspsychjewhats the unity log name again to see what lagging on unity start?17:21
reisiolotuspsychje: find /var/log/ -iname '*unity*'17:21
reisiolmat: this looks like a decent jumping off point: http://www.howtoforge.com/streaming-your-desktop-with-audio-and-webcam-overlay-in-a-browser-using-ffmpeg-crtmpserver-and-flowplayer17:22
joaquinx#list17:23
reisiolmat: if you give it a go and have any trouble give a holler, I'm familiar with most of the bits (ffmpeg, flowplayer), just not the combination in this particular manner :)17:23
Dave77r there ever going to be games that run on linux I can buy in the shop?17:24
lotuspsychjereisio: /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log was what i was looking for tnx17:24
reisioDave77: already are17:25
Dave77I want GTA5 etc17:25
lotuspsychje!steam | Dave7717:25
ubottuDave77: Valve have officially announced that they are developing Steam and are working with !ubuntu during their development, see http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/steamd-penguins/ for further details, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve for install instructions, you can also join #ubuntu-steam for discussion.17:25
Dave77thats where it falls down.. a 50GB download17:25
reisioDave77: what platforms is gta5 for?17:27
blizzowlmat, did switching to the virtio driver with bridged networking change performance significantly?17:27
reisioDave77: not wanting to download something doesn't mean it doesn't work :p17:27
Dave77I would happily use linux for desktop if everything worked...17:28
reisioDave77: everything does17:28
reisioso be happy ;)17:28
Dave77I want to blindscan DVB-S2 with GUI on linux17:28
Dave77no app.. etc..17:28
lotuspsychjeDave77: playonlinux, wine, appdb17:28
reisioDave77: was probably invented on Unix17:29
reisiolike most things :p17:29
Dave77I want a decent DVB TV viewer app for linux.. no good app17:29
Dave77Also would be nice if software was in binary for ARM.. instead of expecting user to compile17:30
reisioDave77: it is17:31
reisioan app for tv tuning?17:31
reisioit's the 21st century man :p17:31
reisiostream it from the net17:32
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Dave77not all channels can be streamed from the net17:32
lucas_2014hola buenas17:32
lucas_2014upstart: amd64 conflicts with sysvinit:amd6417:32
lucas_2014que significa eso17:32
lucas_2014tengo que remover upsatart?17:33
Beldar!es | lucas_201417:33
ubottulucas_2014: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.17:33
lucas_2014sorry17:33
reisioDave77: sure they can17:33
lucas_2014what is it ? upstart: amd64 conflicts with sysvinit:amd6417:33
linuxuz3rhow do i turn on swap file in ubuntu17:33
reisiolinuxuz3r: swapon -s17:33
Beldar!pt | ucas_201417:34
ubottuucas_2014: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.17:34
guideXhey question.. "This kernel requires a x86-64 CPU, but only detected an i686 CPU. Unable to boot - please use a kernel appripriate for your CPU."17:34
Amy_Lu_Whois there an application in the software center that allows one to sync and use google play store apps from their desktop?17:35
geniilucas_2014: It means Ubuntu can use Upstart, OR it can use SysVInit, but not both at the same time. You should choose to use Upstart as the default.17:35
guideXI see it wants a 64bit cpu, but then, this is a virtual box vm,and the cpu is 64bit17:35
reisioAmy_Lu_Who: not exactly17:35
reisioAmy_Lu_Who: you want to use google play apps on your desktop computer?17:35
Amy_Lu_WhoI know there used to be one for Apple Iphonesd17:35
reisioguideX: I think it's saying you can have sysvinit or upstart, but not both17:35
Dave77reiso: there are region blocks on some TV channels. just tried now.. says streaming not possible17:35
reisioguideX: which makes sense17:35
reisioAmy_Lu_Who: yes, there are emulators for both Android and iOS17:36
guideXoh hmm17:36
reisioAmy_Lu_Who: but it's not worth it unless you're going to develop something and make cash or glory, IMO :p17:36
guideXin virtual box, how do I fix? I don't seem to have a 64bit cpu option17:36
Amy_Lu_Whoreisio, i want to be able to play a silly game with full screen.17:36
Dave77reisio: seriously there must be like 20 different apps for windows and nothing on linux17:36
reisioguideX: what's the host OS?17:36
guideXwin7 64bit17:36
reisioAmy_Lu_Who: which game? :)17:36
guideXpro17:36
reisioDave77: that usually means there's one obvious mega-superior app for linux17:36
grodttekken 117:36
reisioDave77: nad you simply don't know its name yet :)17:36
lotuspsychjeAmy_Lu_Who: why dont you switch to ubuntu-touch  and play game from there :p17:37
reisioand*17:37
reisiolotuspsychje: won't change anything :p17:37
Amy_Lu_Whoreisio, *emabrassed* Game of War17:37
guideXin the system area, it says 64bit os17:37
reisioguideX: intel?17:37
guideXyeah17:37
guideXi717:37
reisioAmy_Lu_Who: link?17:37
reisioguideX: oh i717:37
guideXwait.. amd phenom x6 1090t cpu 3.20 ghz17:37
reisioguideX: ah...17:37
guideXto be exact17:37
reisioguideX: phenom, that's a fancy one17:38
reisioI bet it has amd-v17:38
reisiobut you could check with cpu-z to be sure17:38
Amy_Lu_Whoreisio, ???17:38
Dave77reisio: only app I saw was kaffine but GUI was very basic.17:38
guideXhmm17:38
reisioAmy_Lu_Who: to the game site, so I'm sure what you're talking about17:38
reisioDave77: what do you want the gui to have?17:38
guideXso basically virtualbox isn't exposing my vt, think this is more of a vbox issue?17:38
Amy_Lu_Wholotuspsychje, what is ubuntu-touch??17:38
reisioguideX: dunno, again the sysvinit vs upstart thing is likely unrelated to arch, host, guest, or otherwise17:38
lotuspsychje!touch | Amy_Lu_Who17:38
ubottuAmy_Lu_Who: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch17:38
reisioAmy_Lu_Who: nothing that will help you17:39
kastanmy wifi connection seems to stop working after long sessions and i have to reboot it to get it to work again any ideas?17:39
guideXhmm weird17:39
reisiokastan: get a better router17:39
Dave77resio: some that resembles progdvb or mytheatre but for linux17:39
guideXwith ubuntu, does 64 bit vs 32 make a big diff?17:39
kastanreisio: the router is fine my other devices are working great just my wifi on my computer seems to get flacky after long sessions17:40
Amy_Lu_Whoreisio, alrighty thank you.17:40
reisiokastan: on your laptop?17:43
kastanreisio yup17:43
reisioand if you connect fewer devices?17:43
kastanit doesn't help i think it might be a driver problem17:44
reisiocould be17:45
kastanreiso ill see what i can figure out thank you :)17:48
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louis__salut17:53
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skinuxAny specific reason why Ubuntu requires Python 2.7 as default and not 3.0?17:57
zmbmartinIf I add an export to /etc/profile do I need to restart for everything to take that into consideration?17:58
reisiozmbmartin: everything being?18:00
reisioskinux: python 3 is not backwards compatible with 2.718:00
reisioskinux: many things have not yet been ported18:00
reisioall in good time18:00
skinuxWell, 2.7 is still pretty supported, so it's understandable why porting hasn't happened yet.18:02
skinuxI simply have a thing about preferring to use latest versions of everything.18:03
zmbmartinreisio: I tried installing a newer version of imagemagick 6.8.9 by building it myself.18:03
ahmedsakrhi18:03
ahmedsakri am here now . it is first time i be here18:03
reisiozmbmartin: gj18:03
gru_is this the correct syntax from local? "scp file name@ipaddy(HOST):path/file18:03
ahmedsakri hope i find a good friend here18:03
zmbmartinreisio: The problem is my server nodejs/gm(graphics-magick) isn't finding the imagemagick libraries18:03
CREEEPEREXPLOSIVhi18:03
ahmedsakrhi18:04
reisiozmbmartin: just 'export'18:04
ahmedsakrmy name is Ahmed18:04
reisiozmbmartin: or put in ~/.bashrc, source ~/.bashrc18:04
reisioahmedsakr: hi18:04
reisioCREEEPEREXPLOSIV: hi18:04
reisiogru_: local to remote, sure18:04
CREEEPEREXPLOSIVhello18:04
ahmedsakrhi18:04
gru_thnx18:04
reisiogru_: or mkdir foo; sshfs user@remote:path foo && rsync -av bar foo/18:04
skinuxOh, if anyone currently in here was here when I was trying to fix my disk space issue, I resolved it. Instead of merging two partitions, I simply installed Ubuntu onto the second partition and copied files over.18:06
reisioskinux: :p18:06
reisioskinux: you can actually copy an entire ubuntu installation without reinstalling it, FFR18:07
reisioespecially simple when using on the very same hardware18:07
zmbmartinreisio: That still doesn't work18:08
skinuxreisio: Yeah, but it would have taken probably several DVDs to make a system image to copy with.18:08
reisiozmbmartin: "doesn't work" is meaningless, got an error message? :)18:08
reisioskinux: no no :)18:08
reisioskinux: boot a live OS, cp/rsync/etc.18:08
reisioyou can even do it from a running system in a pinch18:09
reisioagain, just FFR18:09
arosenHi, i'm hitting this odd issue on ubuntu-12.04 when I login via gnome i get kicked out right way.18:09
arosenI can login fine via the virtual terminal though18:09
arosenany ideas?18:09
zmbmartinreisio: Same error -> identify: error while loading shared libraries: libMagickCore-6.Q16.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory18:09
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GuppyManAs ubuntu-help is invite only, is this the place to ask a question? Or would someone direct me to the correct irc.18:12
MegabyteHi, guys18:12
MegabyteI do have a question18:12
MegabyteBut it's about Creative Commons licensing18:13
starbuckhi, what is the rename command regex pattern to change a file from S01.01.srt to S01E01.srt?18:13
MegabyteWould anyone be able to answer this?18:13
GuppyManWhich version of creative commons?18:13
MegabyteGuppy, 3.018:13
reisioGuppyMan: publici domain18:14
MegabyteGuppy, The question is: can I use a proprietary tool to create content derived based on CC?18:14
reisioif you don't care, don't care all the way18:14
reisiogray areas are for goobers18:14
GuppyManI'm not sure, not up to date, perhaps someone else knows?18:15
linuxuz3rhow do i recover grub installation18:15
reisio!boot-repair18:15
* reisio yawns18:15
MegabyteGuppy, LateX is a really nice tool, but I'm not keen to deal with its overcomplexity18:15
MegabyteGuppy, And libreoffice keeps deleting my page styling18:15
reisiolinuxuz3r: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair18:15
MegabyteGuppy, There's a section that has page number and another that does not18:15
reisioMegabyte: that related to cc somehow? :p18:16
Megabytereisio, yes.18:16
Megabytereisio, Think a little: if I'm free to get CC work and "remix" it and distribute it as my own, AS LONG AS I give the original docs back upon request...18:17
bpromptMegabyte:    how does LaTex factor in again?18:17
Megabytereisio, doesn't that pose a legal issue?18:17
Megabytebprompt, the original document was typeset in LaTeX18:17
Megabytebprompt, Badly typeset, but that's another story...18:17
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Megabytebprompt, I just think, based on what I already used, that LibreOffice is not a serious tool for long publishing. Randomly deleting page number sections is not something very nice.18:18
Megabytebprompt, So the only free tool that would be a choice would be a TeX derivative18:19
Joshunhi18:19
bpromptMegabyte:     so.. you want to use a "creative commons" content... and distribute it with your branding?18:19
reisioMegabyte: it's as serious as other things18:19
reisiobut depending on what you mean by 'publishing'18:19
Joshunanyone know why the chromium/google chrome menus look so ugly?18:19
reisioyou might prefer scribus18:19
Megabytebprompt, It would fall under remixing, because I wouldn't just redistribute it18:19
bpromptMegabyte:     well... you see, dunno what you're doing... works for me well enough18:19
Joshunthe widget set has become very inconsistent18:19
Megabytebprompt, It has entirely new content mixed to it, too18:19
reisioJoshun: chrome or chromium?18:20
Megabytereisio, No ligature support, and it feels a bit akward18:20
Joshunreisiso: both, the changes made in chromium seem to have become merged into the current chrome version18:20
Megabyte*awkward18:20
Joshun^I mean reisio18:20
Megabytereision, to be more precise, it does have ligature support, but you have to hack it into the project file18:20
Megabytereision, you cannot fine-tune the open-type features you want, though18:21
Megabytereision, LibreOffice has graphite, but it stopped working after 4.018:21
reisioJoshun: sounds like your GTK+ or Qt is broken18:22
reisioMegabyte: which features do you want to tune?18:22
Megabytereision, ligatures and choosing between monospaced and old-style numbering would be one example18:22
Megabytereision, another is kerning18:22
bpromptMegabyte:   so.... you want to use edit the Latex document which has a "creative commons" license.... and you want to modify but not redistribute or rebrand it...  I don't see the liability issue.... sounds more like is for personal use?18:22
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Megabytebprompt, No, it is for commercial use18:23
fxnI have a package that I did not install explicitly, is there a way to know which package was a dependency of?18:23
Joshunreisio: unlikely, occurs on two different installs18:23
bpromptMegabyte:     I don't think there's a #ubuntu-legalese channel =)18:24
Megabytebprompt, It's basically Ubuntu's quick-start guide. I'm translating it to Portuguese and updating it to include relevant information pertaining to 14.04 LTS18:24
reisiofxn: https://www.google.com/search?q=debian%20query%20reverse%20deps18:24
Megabytebprompt, Going to #ubuntu-br, I also learned that the lead chanel admin and translator passed away last year18:25
reisioJoshun: if you say so18:25
guideXis there a way to speed up the ubuntu ui/unity?18:25
Megabytebprompt, Cystic fibrosis18:25
guideXmaybe by turning off the animations?18:25
Megabytebprompt, Which is why the Brazilian Portuguese translation is stuck at 12.0418:25
guideXi'm experiencing 30 second delays18:26
Joshunthe weird thing is it seems to act independently of the window manager18:26
fxnreisio: thanks18:26
Megabytebprompt, Since this project takes a bit of time (like updating "Mac OS X" to "OS X," due to naming scheme,) I think it's fair I distribute a paid version of it18:26
reisioJoshun: well, they are horribly authored applications :)18:26
Megabytebprompt, I was thinking of R$ 20 ($10) for a 150 page guide, black and white18:26
reisioMegabyte: it's fair if you require money to survive :p18:27
Megabytereisio, thanks for supporting me, reisio :)18:27
Megabytereisio, Amazon has a self-publishing program, I suppose, so it would be cheap for me to go self-publishing18:28
Megabytereisio, I'd have to calculate the price more precisely, but I want to set it as fair as possible18:28
Megabytereision, it pains me to see the #ubuntu-br (Brazilian) channel is a bit neglected too18:30
reisioneglect is painful18:30
reisioMegabyte: r-e-i-TABkey18:31
Megabytereision, I've disabled it on purpose :)18:31
Megabytereisio, (Sorry)18:31
Megabytereisio, I disabled it because I was miscompleting other people's names18:31
reisiowhy? :/18:31
reisioMegabyte: go into prefs and set it to last-spoke order18:32
reisiohexchat's default is poor18:32
Megabytereisio, ah, thanks :)18:32
mickepHi, I just installed 14.04 on a new machine, and I got "skippings and crackings" when playing sound (music/video). I have tried the tsched=0 option in /etc/pulse/default.pa and also changing speex-float-0 to speex-float-1 (or 10) in /etc/pulse/daemon.conf. Any other ideas? The soundcard seems to be of intel type.18:32
reisioit's set to alphabetical or something18:32
reisiolast-spoke is better18:32
reisiocloser to irssi's, which is probably the best18:32
reisiomickep: you try lowering PCM?18:32
mickepreisio: yes18:32
Megabytereisio, there's not an order there18:33
guideXany idea how to speed up the unity ui? it takes 20-30 seconds to do most things18:33
Megabytereisio, I'm using hexchat, too18:33
reisiomickep: does it manifest when using 'aplay' directly?18:33
Megabytereisio, Which is a nice fork backed up by Google18:33
muoninice community (=18:33
Doxinis there some way to have a script run if a certain service stopped working?18:33
mickepreisio: never tried, hold on.18:33
GuppyManguideX: what are your hardware specs?18:33
bpromptguideX:    get an SSD, that should18:33
Megabytereisio, Is there a text way to set this up?18:33
reisioMegabyte: I know, it should still have last-spoke as an option; the hexchat devs are goobers, but hopefully not that much18:33
reisioMegabyte: yeah.... min18:33
guideXAMD Phenom II X6 1090T 3.20 ghz, nvidia gforce gt610 2gb ram, virtualbox18:34
mickepreisio: aplay sounds even worse (it also continues for some seconds after I close it with ctrl-c)18:34
guideX8 gb ram18:34
kingbeowolfanyone know a good conky script that displays system temps?18:35
mickepreisio: In, for example, spotify I can hear the songs. In aplay I heard only noise.18:35
guideXI also had this problem with 12.1018:35
reisioMegabyte: /set completion_sort18:35
reisioMegabyte: /set completion_sort on18:35
GuppyManguideX: Has it been fine with previous versions then?18:35
reisiosomething like that18:35
guideXnope18:36
reisioMegabyte: #hexchat would know for sure18:36
guideXI usually use xfce, but it's slow18:36
GuppyManguideX: May be virtual box.18:36
reisiomickep: sounds like parts of your system are configured to use pulse and parts aren't18:36
GuppyManguideX: Do you run other OSes in VB?18:36
guideXyeah18:37
GuppyManguideX: And they work fine right?18:37
guideXthey have worked good, it's only with ubuntu 9 and up18:37
GuppyManguideX: Interesting...18:37
guideXthe ui has too many animations18:37
mickepreisio: Hm, it is a clean install, but with the home dir from previous installation. Are there any files in my home directory that I can remove?18:37
guideXis there a way to turn them off18:37
Megabytereisio, strange... completion_sort is always set to 018:37
guideXalso how do I scroll? the scrollbars are missing18:38
GuppyManguideX: Now that is strange..18:39
matrix3000hey guys18:39
guideXI see a scrollbar appear if I move the mouse near the right side, but when I click it disappears18:39
guideXI obviously don't know how to use heh18:39
guideXis there a way to go back to regular scrollbars?18:39
matrix3000need some help here, trying to lock down only a specific user to be able to login from a specific host, but don't care about other users18:39
reisioMegabyte: 1 then18:40
GuppyManguideX: Do you have compiz eneabled?18:40
matrix3000I know I need to edit the sshd_config, but not sure what to use18:40
matrix3000cause I don't want to limit all the other users on the system18:40
guideXGuppyMan: I went with default install, I haven't changed anything18:40
guideXnot sure about compwiz18:40
reisiomatrix3000: #openssh18:40
GuppyManguideX: Go to system settings18:41
guideXok 1 second.. or 3018:41
GuppyManDrat can't remember where compiz is...18:41
GuppyManone sec18:41
guideXok system settings is open18:42
mickepreisio: I'll add another user and try if sounds work for that one.18:43
GuppyManactually, scratch that go to system monitor18:43
GuppyManguideX: lets see what's eating your resources18:43
GuppyManguideX: In system monitor18:43
guideXGuppyMan: another problem is, I can't find anything.. there used to be a menu in gnome with all my stuff, now I can't even find the terminal I'm bhaveing a hard time finding most things18:44
DrGrovHi everyone. Is anyone using modelines in xorg.conf on 14.04 with a nVidia graphics card?18:44
GuppyManguideX: So do you have the unity bar?18:45
guideXwell yeah but it's useless, I have to wait 30 seconds per letrter18:45
guideXthe animations are killing me18:45
mickepreisio: OK, noise is still there with a new user.18:45
guideXis there some alternate way to get to the terminal18:46
GuppyManguideX: Ok, do Ctrl + Alt + T18:46
GuppyManguideX: This will open a terminal18:46
guideXah ok18:46
reisioDrGrov: probably someone is :p18:47
GuppyManguideX: type gnome-system-monitor18:47
GuppyManguideX: And click on Processes18:47
reisiomickep: what's making the skips in ordinary usage, again? (not aplay)18:47
fbdystangHi, my verizon wireless dongle stopped working a few months ago from some update to network manager. Is there a way to revert back to a previous version of ubuntu that did work? I am on 14.04, Thanks!18:48
mickepreisio: spotify, youtube (flash/html5?). That is what I've tried.18:48
guideXhmm most things aren't using the cpu, xorg is using 73 mb of ram18:48
GuppyManguideX: Sort by cpu, and if nothing is using a lot of CPU, sort by memory.18:48
reisiomickep: didn't you say spotify worked?18:48
guideXmax cpu use is <10%18:48
reisioyes you did18:48
reisiomickep: what's making __**the skips**__ in ordinary usage, again? (not aplay)18:49
mickepThat must have been a typo, sorry.18:49
reisio(not spotify)18:49
reisiookay...18:49
reisioso everything is making skips?18:49
mickepno application is working18:49
reisiookay18:49
GuppyManguideX: Try sort by memory.18:49
guideXmax memory use is xorg, 73mb18:49
JuJuBeeHow do I import an m3u playlist into Rhythmbox?18:49
reisioJuJuBee: ctrl+o?18:50
guideXmy system appears to be doing very little atm18:50
mickepreisio: What I meant above, is that in spotify I hear the songs (together with the noise), while in aplay I heard noise only.18:50
Beldarfbdystang, You can pin apps, not sure this is your best option you might address getting it to work as is with the channel.18:50
reisiocp foo.m3u bar.pls && rhythmbox bar.pls ?18:50
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guideXstill EXTREMELY slow, it's like trying to run winvista on a 386 or something18:50
reisiomickep: k18:50
JuJuBeereisio: doesn't do anything18:51
guideXI think it's all these animations, they're just overused, is there a way to disable them?18:51
reisioJuJuBee: pls?18:51
Istalantarhi, today i learned who to get rid of passwords in pdf files with the command 'qpdf'. my question now is, what would i need to do to 'decrypt' several pdfs at once?18:51
fbdystangBeldar, what do you mean by pin apps? link?18:51
reisioguideX: in what?18:51
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JuJuBeereisio: no m3u  exported from Banshee18:51
guideXreisio: unity18:51
CREEEPEREXPLOSIVaadios¡¡18:51
reisioIstalantar: most Unix PDF viewers don't care about encryption at all18:51
Beldar!info pin | fbdystang18:51
CREEEPEREXPLOSIVsigo aquiiiiiiii18:51
ubottufbdystang: Package pin does not exist in trusty18:51
guideXunity animations lock my pc for 30 seconds at a time18:51
Artemis3!es | CREEEPEREXPLOSIV18:51
ubottuCREEEPEREXPLOSIV: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.18:51
reisiothat is, most PDF encryption is merely password protection, which is not encryption :p18:52
Istalantarreisio: i want to use the pds on windows and my tablet too18:52
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reisioIstalantar: probably just use gs to re-convert them to pdf18:52
fbdystangBeldar: yeah doesn't look like it exists :(18:52
reisioIstalantar: likely any Unix util to re-author them will remove any password protection18:52
gas-shodesconocido soy18:52
bpromptguideX:     depending on usage... you could, if you do not use/need 32bit color...you can lower it to 16bit... that'd remove gpu workload18:52
Beldarfbdystang, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto18:52
GuppyManguideX: Looks like Unity 2D was disabled in recent versions.18:52
cheaterhi18:53
guideXhmm ok18:53
Beldarfbdystang, It's not a app18:53
GuppyManguideX: Seems like a switch to Kubuntu is recommended by some.18:53
guideXmaybe I should put xfce or something on here18:53
guideXseems like unity is just too slow still18:53
guideXI had this same problem in 12.1-018:53
The0x539KDE is amazing18:53
GuppyManguideX: Yes, unity didn't play nice with my GTX 560 either.18:53
holsteinguideX: its more likey a lack of 3d support for your device18:53
reisiocheater: ohio18:54
cheateri've been doing do-release-upgrade and it was on the "setting up packages" step and it asked me what to do about a config file. i chose to start an interactive shell, during which i pressed ctrl-c. apparently that killed the whole process and it stopped setting up packages. how do i resume this? i'm afraid if i do anything at all my pc will not even boot up anymore.18:54
guideXholstein: just a gt610, nothing out of the ordinary18:54
holsteinguideX: there are DE's that dont use 3d.. xfce, lxde..18:54
Istalantarreisio: so you are saying, when i open the pdf once with a unix util the password will also be gone when i upen the file on windows?18:54
holsteinguideX: "ordinary" doesnt matter.. either you have support in linux, or not18:54
guideX*shrug, ok18:54
GuppyManguideX: I agree a lightweight interface is a good idea.18:54
reisioIstalantar: no, but if you regenerate it with a Unix util, the password will likely be obliterated18:54
GuppyManguideX: Xubuntu, Lubuntu, etc.18:55
Beldarcheater, get to a tty and run sudo apt-get -f install18:55
fbdystangBeldar: Thanks18:55
holsteinguideX: its just misguided to say unity is the cause. .many use unity and it works as advertised, but, if your hardware cant to 3d in linux, you will run into performance issues with things that require 3d.. unity and gnome both use 3d18:55
Mailme45Trying to install 64 bit Ubuntu or Xubuntu on Vizio laptop, core i3.  Pointer and wifi work from live cd, but not once installed.  32 bit works? any clue as to why?18:55
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reisioIstalantar: gs -o new.pdf -sDEVICE=pdfwrite old.pdf18:56
reisioIstalantar: try it18:56
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holsteinguideX: there are pass through modes for both for use with 2d, but, you take a hit in performance, and would likely enjoy xfce better..18:56
bpromptguideX:    sometimes also fetching resources from spinning HDD   causes delay, sometimes it may not the GPU or CPU processing, so much as they'yre waiting for data to be fetched from scatter spots on the hdd, thus the delay, part of why I suggested an ssd18:56
BeldarMailme45, 32 b it works means, in the live right?18:56
Istalantarreisio: ok, i'll try18:56
guideXholstein: I suppose, but it sure seems like it.. I've had this exact same issue on several pc's, in all cases, unity is just slow and barely moving.. i've to date never seen unity function properly18:56
reisioMailme45: likely unrelated to the arch, just a little bug in QA18:56
guideXI don't know why ubuntu continues to use such an unreliable ui18:57
Mailme45Oh sorry, type-o.  32 bit works if installed.18:57
holsteinguideX: on everal pc's that dont support 3d in linux?its quite common to need to install a proprietary graphics driver for 3d support in linux18:57
reisioguideX: I do :)18:57
Mailme45just 64 bit doesn't work when installed.18:57
reisioholstein: also on any other OS18:57
holsteinguideX: the UI is not the issue.. you could choose to use more well supported hardware18:57
genii@comment 62794 Was referred to the Spanish channel but then remained and began spamming random gibberish18:57
ubottuComment added.18:57
BeldarMailme45, On either install did hit the install updates in install, or 3rd party tick?18:58
guideXlol ok, but i'm seeing this on various hardware, what would you guys recommend as hardware that would work with unity?18:58
holsteinguideX: a machine from a seller such as system76 would be setup with ubuntu from the factory18:58
bpromptguideX:    you're sorta generalizing your issue18:58
* genii makes more coffee18:58
holsteinguideX: i recommend either using hardware that supports 3d with 3d required DE's, or something that doesnt require 3d if you dont have 3d support18:58
reisiogenii: good idea18:58
Mailme45Yes, I select install updates and 3rd party always.18:58
guideXI have 3d support, I"m able to play 3d games without issue18:58
reisio3d is cute, but 99% of the time not actually useful18:58
guideXI've tried with gt610, gt640, gforce gtx 9800+18:59
BeldarMailme45, Okay just checking for differentials, not sure of a why in this.18:59
guideXall of these fail with unity18:59
guideXthese are very common cards18:59
holsteinguideX: maybe you are just having unrealistic expectations of the environment.. its not a goal of unity to support legacy hardware or provide a "light" environment.. it is the goal of lubuntu lxde .. and others18:59
BeldarMailme45, Note I preface your nick when addressing you.19:00
cheaterBeldar: thanks i'll do that19:00
Beldarcool .)19:00
holsteinguideX: again, the "common"-ality is not the issue.. only linux support is the factor19:00
guideXtwo of those cards are far from legacy, and unity is also VERY far from light19:00
Mailme45Elementary OS, 64bit works on same laptop19:00
guideXhoplstein ah ok19:00
holsteinguideX: unity is not meant to be light. and not advertised as such19:00
guideXwell ok, I guess I will try switching to something more functional, like xfce19:00
BeldarMailme45, Very small support with them, and not relevant is all.19:01
holsteinguideX: unity works as advertised here.. i choose to use other DE"s becuase i want other funcitonality19:01
guideXah ok, well at least it works for you guys...19:01
reisioI think with enough effort you can still use unity-2d, but19:01
reisiounity is basically just the same as any DE with a panel on the left...19:01
holsteinguideX: xfce is not "more funcional".. its different.. and you may prefer it.. and are welcome to try it19:01
Istalantarreisio: tried your command, but an error tells me i need a password, do i need to add that to your command?19:01
guideXI can't even get to a terminal in unity, i'd say xfce is way more functional19:02
guideXor probably gnome 2/3 also19:02
holstein!tty | guideX19:02
ubottuguideX: To get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).  To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution19:02
guideXunity is just totally crippled by its own animations19:02
holsteinguideX: both gnome and unity require 3d19:02
guideXah okl19:02
reisioIstalantar: maybe it actually is encrypted then :)19:02
holsteinguideX: its working as advertised here on hardware that supports linux19:03
guideXI've unfortunetly never been able to see that holstein19:03
guideXfor me, it's always basically non functional19:03
reisioIstalantar: try bursting it with pdftk, then cat'ing it back together19:03
guideXbut good you can use it:)19:03
holsteinguideX: then, try another alternative.. there are many. you can try a xubuntu or lubuntu or kubuntu live CD easily. or install those into your installation19:03
guideXyeah that's what i'll have to do19:04
holsteinguideX: i dont use it.. i dont prefer it.. i just use what i prefer.. but its not a problem with unity19:04
reisioXfce is very easily configured to resemble Unity19:04
reisioif you actually want Unity merely non-accelerated19:04
guideXI'm sure it's not, but unity is also not ready for prime time imo19:04
Istalantarreisio: well, 'qpdf --password=PASSWORD --decrypt infile outfile' would do the trick, i already tried that ... i just want to know how to use it for several commands at once19:04
bpromptheheh19:04
guideXwith problems like this, they should yank unity and go with something that works on more hardware19:04
reisiocompiz isn't perfect, but it's more likely that your graphics driver is buggy19:04
holsteinguideX: why not? it works as adviertised here. and you are not forced to use it for your "prime-time" use19:04
reisioor your hardware is simply underpowered19:05
reisioin which case you wouldn't want to use accelerated graphics, indeed19:05
guideXhmm I didn't install any gfx driver, this is right out of installation19:05
bpromptguideX:    A pessimist see the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist see the opportunity in every difficulty. ~~ Winston Churchill ~~19:05
mickepIstalantar: you can use a for loop.19:05
guideXI'm not really sure about drivers19:05
GuppyManbit of a git noob here, how do I go about installing a driver from here? http://git.linuxtv.org/cgit.cgi/media_tree.git/about/19:05
reisioIstalantar: ah :)19:05
guideXI would assume it would finsd the correct driver no?19:05
holsteinguideX: thats why i suggest looking into that, since driver support *can* cause the issues you are reporting.. unity and gnome require 3d19:05
guideXah hmm19:06
holsteinguideX: "it" cant ship the appropriate drivers.. its not allowed19:06
Istalantarmickep: i just dont know how to make a loop, i'm kinda new to linux19:06
mojtabaHi, I have installed byobu, but the problem is that when I press F9, my desktop just become dimmer, and it does not show the menu of the byobu. Do you know what should I do?19:06
reisioIstalantar: what commands did you  have in mind?19:06
guideXit should probably work in a reduced fasion without the animations until a suitable driver is found, I still see it as a bug19:07
The0x539mojtaba: Does your f9 key on your physical keyboard hint at being a "brightness down" key19:07
The0x539well, first, is it a laptop19:07
guideXno os should take 30 seconds to show a menu19:07
reisioguideX: yup19:07
guideXanything like that is broken imo19:07
holsteinguideX: file it, then, friend.. but, it *does* pass thorugh to 2d as stated19:07
reisioguideX: mmhmm19:07
holstein!bug | guideX19:07
ubottuguideX: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.19:07
holsteinguideX: its working as advertised here..19:07
mojtabaThe0x539: It does not matter where I am. In any software, F9 just dim my screen.19:07
The0x539mojtaba: Exactly19:08
mickepIstalantar: I never used it, but maybe something like: for i in *.pdf; do qpdf --password=PASSWORD --decrypt $i $i-new.pdf; done      BUT I'm not sure of syntax...19:08
The0x539mojtaba: Are you using a laptop19:08
guideXholstein: ah ok19:08
Istalantarreisio: i thought of something with: find -name 'NAME' -exec , but that didn't work19:08
mojtabaThe0x539: Yes19:08
GuppyManNvm, think I know what to do.19:08
The0x539mojtaba: Does your F9 key have a small sun on it or anything?19:08
reisiomickep: Istalantar: might want "$i" instead of just $i, but otherwise should work fine19:08
reisiofind would be even better19:08
mojtabaThe0x539: No, it is for changing the sound. if I use Fn key.19:09
The0x539how odd19:09
The0x539Well, I'm out19:09
mickepreisio: I found a tip about adding a grub option, that might fix the sound. Will try when Mathematica and Dropbox file indexing are done :)19:09
mojtabaThe0x539: When I press F9 the screen becomes dimmer and when I repress it again, it come back to the normal mode.19:09
The0x539mojtaba: Even odder19:09
The0x539again, out19:09
The0x539(19:09
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reisiomickep: :)19:10
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mojtabaHi, I have installed byobu, but the problem is that when I press F9, my desktop just become dimmer, and it does not show the menu of the byobu. Do you know what should I do?19:10
mojtabaDoes anybody know how can I change this functionality of F9 key? (it was by default with ubuntu)19:10
reisiomojtaba: fn+f9?19:11
mojtabareisio: fn+f9 = increase sound19:11
holsteinmojtaba: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Byobu19:11
reisiomojtaba: what makes you think f9 should do this thing you want it to do?19:11
mojtabareisio: just f9: dim the screen. I guess the problem is with f9. It is like that in every application19:12
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holsteinmojtaba: i would just try and remap it in byobu19:12
bpromptmojtaba:     do you have a "multimedia keys" on the keyboard?   like " play> pause||  forward >>"  and so on?19:12
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zerguthello, there is some problem with webcam19:13
mojtababprompt: Yes I do, but f9 is by default like that. (without fn key)19:13
zergutin flash applications19:13
bpromptmojtaba:    and you want it like that, right?19:14
mojtabaholstein: I have this behavior in all applications. Do you know how can I fix that?19:14
mojtababprompt: I do not want my f9 make my desktop dimmer.19:14
reisiozergut: yes?19:14
bpromptmojtaba:     that's usually bios-mapping, no app or OS-specific btw19:14
zergutreisio: it's just black19:14
reisiomojtaba: what makes you think f9 should do this thing you want it to do?19:14
holsteinmojtaba: i would personally just try and remap.. if indeed youa re just having overlap19:14
mojtabareisio: What do you mean?19:14
reisiozergut: is it dark where you are?19:15
zergutno ;D19:15
reisiomojtaba: what do you want f9 to do?19:15
mojtabareisio: I do not want it to dim my desktop.19:15
reisiozergut: can you view your webcam not using Flash?19:15
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reisiomojtaba: why not?19:15
bpromptmojtaba:     checked in your BIOS/uefi/setup screen?    it'd have an entry    can't recall exactly the spot, they're called "Action Menu Keys"  I think, and you can disable/enable them19:15
holsteinmojtaba: could be wired up through the bios to do so19:15
zergutreisio: yes19:15
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holsteinmojtaba: i would just remap til i get what i want..19:16
mojtabareisio: In byobu F9 is going to show the menu, but mine just dim the screen.19:16
reisiomojtaba: what says f9 is the menu for byobu?19:16
reisioanyways, you can remap keys from compiz config19:16
mojtabareisio: menu (configuration)19:16
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bpromptmojtaba:    are you on an hp pavillion?19:17
mojtababprompt: I am aware of multifunctionality of the keyboard with fn keys.19:17
mojtababprompt: it is dell studio 155519:17
bpromptmojtaba:     ..ok... check bios/uefi/setup menu yet?19:17
bpromptmojtaba:   they usually go by the name of "action menu keys" I think19:18
mojtababprompt: I don't have uefi. Where is the bios directory?19:18
bpromptmojtaba:     setup, when you boot, where you set "boot sequence" and other configurations, BEFORE any OS19:18
mojtababprompt: You mean I should restart now?19:19
mojtababprompt: And what after that?19:19
reisiolot of computers don't show bios splashes anymore unless you press the magic key :p19:19
mojtabaholstein: How can override that?19:19
holsteinmojtaba: the suggestion is, to remap in the bios.. you can also remap byobu to something that is not in use19:19
bpromptmojtaba:     on a Dell I think it' be F2 to get in setup..... .look for the "action menu key" to disable them19:19
mojtababprompt: I know that, when I disable them, the fn key is not working anymore, right?19:20
bpromptor enable them, either way, they seem to be not what you want right now19:20
holsteinmojtaba: or, just remap to a key that is not in use19:20
mojtabaholstein: How can I do that?19:20
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mojtabaholstein: I am totally new to byobu19:20
holsteinmojtaba: i would refer to the byobu documentation.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Byobu#Key_Bindings is where i would start19:21
bpromptmojtaba:     hmmm well... when disabled, you NEED the [fn]   extra key to say, set the brightness.... so instead of being F9, it'd  require fn-f9 combination19:21
holsteinmojtaba: http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/49933/f9-key-with-byobu for example19:21
mojtababprompt: The problem is different.19:21
bpromptmojtaba:  how so?19:21
holsteinmojtaba: states, you can use byobu-config in place of f919:22
mojtababprompt: I am aware of fn functionality. With fn my F9 decreases sound. without fn F9 dims the screen (everywhere.) Although I can change the brightness with fn+F4&F5.19:22
bprompthmmm19:23
bpromptmojtaba:   in all apps?19:23
mojtababprompt: yes19:23
kane77hi, I just did a fresh installation of 14.04 and I have problem with my eth19:24
kane77I am able to connect to wifi,  but not ethernet19:24
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kane77the interface is there, but it cannot connect, "sudo dhclient eth0" just stalls19:25
bprompt<holstein> mojtaba: http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/49933/f9-key-with-byobu for example19:25
mojtabaDo you know how can I open compiz config manager?19:25
reisiomojtaba: from the dash/menu19:25
mojtabareisio: what should I type?19:26
reisiomojtaba: compiz19:26
bpromptmojtaba:     so... seems the key got mapped but the menu access was removed.... then I gather you can just remap it.....    the app I can think offhand for that might be   xkeycaps19:26
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mojtabareisio: It does not show up19:27
reisiocompiz (the default wm) can remap on its own19:27
mojtababprompt: I think I found a link to solve my problem.19:27
mojtababprompt: https://plus.google.com/107731463416950158458/posts/gXa4sx7Zpmb19:27
reisiomojtaba: which ccsm19:27
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mojtabareisio: what is ccsm?19:27
mojtabareisio: I am using ubuntu 14.04 lts19:31
mickepreisio: Just want to report that it did not work. I'll probably buy another sound card tomorrow and see if that solves it... Thanks for trying to help, though.19:32
reisiomickep: did you say the sound works okay on the live OS?19:32
mickepreisio: I did not try it. I still have the usb stick, so that is something to try...19:33
Nothing_MuchI need help compiling a kernel19:33
Nothing_MuchFor a patch19:33
Nothing_MuchCan I get some help/19:33
Nothing_Much?19:33
reisiomickep: do that before you spend money :p19:34
reisiomickep: if it works in any other Os, it's not likely a hardware issue19:34
reisioNothing_Much: what patch?19:34
Nothing_Muchreisio: this one: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=101179&action=edit19:35
Nothing_MuchIt's a problem with Radeon and DPM on MSI motherboards19:35
Nothing_Muchhttps://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7292119:35
ubottuFreedesktop bug 72921 in DRM/Radeon "DPM Power Cycle with AMD A8-6600K & MSI FM2-A55M-E33" [Blocker,New]19:35
Nothing_Muchbug report ^19:36
reisioNothing_Much: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel19:37
Ben64Nothing_Much: the guy who made the patch doesn't know if it works, i'd suggest not trying that19:37
LeMikeokay. even sh scripts bring me down :P what is it when I do "FOO=*.tar" that the content of $FOO are all files matching the pattern?19:37
Nothing_MuchBen64: Huh? I thought I would test it out though19:37
guideXdoes anyone know of a vhosts file example?19:38
guideXI know there's this one... https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-apache-virtual-hosts-on-ubuntu-12-04-lts19:38
guideXbut it's not a full example, it has [...] at the bottom19:38
reisioLeMike: foo=$(ls *.pdf)19:38
reisioLeMike: or foo=$(find . -type f -iname '*.pdf')19:38
daviatorhello.19:39
reisioLeMike: what're you going to do with the tar files?19:39
reisiodaviator: 'lo19:39
guideXnm found one19:39
daviator:)19:39
reisiogj19:39
daviator?19:39
daviatorhello :)19:39
reisiohi19:39
aJunkThronewhat pdf reader does ubuntu use?19:39
bpromptaJunkThrone:   evince19:40
aJunkThronebprompt, thanks19:40
daviatoryesterday i was talking to DAVID-A about ubuntu do not want to go into sleep mode19:40
bpromptaJunkThrone:   though I prefer okular or qpdfview19:40
ronaldsmazitishello somebody sees what I was writing on #facebook19:40
LeMikenah reisio . my problem is that I get the files. but I don't want the files. I want the string itself: https://gist.github.com/sourcerer-mike/1acf3775408636fd096e19:41
ronaldsmazitis?19:41
aJunkThronebprompt, why is that19:41
daviatori have found a solution19:41
Nothing_Muchreisio: How do I apply a patch to the kernel?19:41
daviatori just updated ubuntu from xubuntu 12.04 to xubuntu 14.0419:41
guideXwhat text editor do you guys recommend19:42
daviatorthis version go asleep in a second :)19:42
guideXsomething very simple, like notepad.exe19:42
daviatorleafpad19:42
bpromptaJunkThrone:     IMO better UI, qpdfview is pretty much okular, only difference is qpdfview is multitab and you can arrange the tabs,    though I'd say the Adobe Reader 9.x has tabs too, qpdfview is just faster19:42
daviatoror mouse pad19:42
daviatorvi19:42
guideXvi is too hard19:42
guideXI know a little vi, and I don't like it19:42
daviatorleafpad19:42
guideXoki cool I'll check that iout19:42
daviator:)19:42
michagogoCan an Ubuntu server be upgraded from precise to trusty?19:43
michagogoIs it just do-release-upgrade?19:43
daviatoris here any one from ukraine?19:43
GuppyManHello, I am trying to install a driver for a TV tuner card.  I followed the directions in the first section of this guide: http://git.linuxtv.org/cgit.cgi/media_tree.git/about/  But wanted to know if I still needed to ./build and install.19:43
guideXyou're right, leafpad is like notepad :D:D:D19:44
guideXso happy19:44
daviatorgood :)19:44
guideXcan use the arrow keys, and type letters/numbers...19:44
Ben64GuppyMan: its likely that the driver already exists19:44
reisioNothing_Much: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patch_%28Unix%2919:44
MoonlightningHow do I mount the usual /boot when I'm booted to an install disc? I'm not sure which of the `/dev/sda`s it is.19:44
GuppyManBen64: It does not show up in tvheadend though.19:44
Nothing_Muchreisio: Thanks19:45
Ben64GuppyMan: does it make a /dev/video019:45
kane77hi, I just did a fresh installation of 14.04 and I have problem with my ethernet interface, I'm able to connect to wifi, but not to eth0, although it is visible under ifconfig19:45
bpromptMoonlightning:     sudo fdisk -l   <-- to see which is it19:45
GuppyManNo, only thing that starts with v in dev is v4l19:45
MoonlightningThanks, bprompt.19:46
LeMikeI am still afraid of making something like Thunar my default file manager or geany my default editor. I always fuck up the system :/19:46
bpromptMoonlightning:    then just -> sudo mount /dev/sd[whatever]    MOUNTPOINT19:46
GuppyManBen64:No, only thing that starts with v in dev is v4l19:46
reisioLeMike: impossible :)19:46
MoonlightningYep, got that part. Thank you. ^^19:46
Nothing_Muchreisio: I'm not sure I understand19:47
Nothing_MuchI know the commands19:47
Nothing_MuchI don't know where the file TO be patched is19:47
aJunkThronebprompt, etracting text from evince can be a little messy. Does ocular do the same?19:47
bpromptaJunkThrone:    you mean you want to grab text as text/plain out of a pdf?19:47
aJunkThronebprompt, yeah something like that19:48
bpromptaJunkThrone:    the "messy" part is true for pretty much any pdf-app really, due to the pdf encoding19:48
solarshey, can anyone tell me how to install xvidcap on 13.10? I don't find the package19:48
GuppyManBen64:I will try a restart.19:49
aJunkThronebprompt, also ocular seems to be a kde app :/ i dont want to install a bunch of dependancies19:49
guideXcan someone help me setting up my apache site? I have my vhost file, and I type a2ensite <vhostfile> and it says "Site <site> does not exist!"19:50
guideXI also have my host file entry19:50
Megabytehello again, everyone19:50
GuppyManBen64: Still not recognized in tvheadend unfortunately.19:51
bpromptaJunkThrone:      I  heard that many times.... I always wonder if it's just a storage concern, or just centrism.... yes, I do use kde.... and not sure by how many libs you may need to install... I use gtk apps too and depending of what they do, some are better than kde's, doesn't matter that much so long they perform19:51
GuppyManBen64: Strangely, TvTime pulls a signal from a VCR through the coaxial.19:51
bpromptaJunkThrone:    okular is pretty well rated, if you wish to look it up, and works well, I could install evince if I wanted too, I find okular better UI wise19:52
Megabyteraido, Still there?19:52
XasinHello! I need some support with GRUB - After starting the PC, all I get is "Invalid arch independent ELF magic".19:57
aJunkThronebprompt, thanks :)19:58
MoonlightningHmmmm. I think I found the problem here. :|19:58
XasinI can start the PC and boot the USB Stick I have - That is where I am on right now.19:59
CharlieSheen[Xasin] do you have a elf?19:59
Moonlightning{initrd.img,vmlinux} and {initrd.img,vmlinux}.old are pointing to the same files/19:59
cipher__Can I check if aptitude is currently installing a package? (ssh connection failed during an install)19:59
XasinA ELF? I am not sure, where would that be indicated?19:59
holsteincipher__: i would do that in screen, so you can keep the session running on the host.. i would just run the commands again, and deal with any errors..19:59
reisiocipher__: ps aux | grep -i apt20:00
cipher__holstein: the install wouldn't have ceased do to my disconnect?20:00
holsteincipher__: in screen, it would not have. you would be running screen, be disconnected and be able to reconect.. but, thats for next time.. im suggesting now that you run the commands again, and deal with errors20:01
holsteincipher__: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and deal with errors. or whatever you did before20:01
cipher__it still appears to be running according to ps20:01
holsteincipher__: i know what i would do.. that can be quite dangerous.. i would kill whatever or reboot and deal with package errors that can be there.. then, i would use screen in the future via ssh, so that disconnection doesnt break things20:03
guideXwhen I type a2ensite <mysite> it says "ERROR: <site> does not exist!" what could I be doing wrong?20:03
cipher__holstein: thanks20:03
cipher__though it appeared to complete successfuly20:04
Nothing_MuchCan I get some step-by-step help with patching and compiling a kernel please??20:04
cipher__successfully*20:04
holsteincipher__: test that it did, or not. and i would run the commands again, since that literally wont hurt anything..20:04
holsteincipher__: dont assume.. just run them again..20:04
airsploitNothing_Much read the forums carefully...20:04
holsteinNothing_Much: you dont really need to.. ubuntu supplies a kernel20:05
holsteinNothing_Much: here are steps.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile20:05
BeldarXasin, This a formerly or still W8 computer?20:05
Nothing_Muchholstein: That page is too outdated20:05
XasinRight now Windows 8, Beldar.20:06
XasinIf you mean that.20:06
MaynardWatersMaynardWaters> hey I'm running ubuntu20:06
MaynardWaters15:03 < MaynardWaters> and I've added a few of the studio extras20:06
MaynardWaters15:03 < MaynardWaters> I have this weird thing happen when I try to play movies20:06
MaynardWaters15:03 < MaynardWaters> it gives me sound, but not the full sound of the movie20:06
MaynardWaters15:04 < MaynardWaters> its as if maybe I'm only getting 2 of 5.1 channels or something similar20:06
MaynardWaters15:04 < MaynardWaters> when i stream the exact same movie file across my20:06
unopasteMaynardWaters you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted20:06
reisioMaynardWaters: so hard to condense into one msg? :p20:07
BeldarXasin, What I want to know is uefi and gpt partition info basically?20:07
holsteinNothing_Much: the process is the same, friend20:07
Beldarand if W8 is still there Xasin20:07
holsteinNothing_Much: you are welcome to update the wiki as you please20:07
Nothing_Muchholstein: I'm confused about it20:07
Nothing_MuchThe fakeroot debian/rules thing doesn't do anything20:07
MaynardWatersreisio: sry20:07
BeldarXasin, Is ell actually efi?20:07
reisioMaynardWaters: when you stream...?20:08
Beldarelf*20:08
XasinRight, uhm ... I am not too experienced with Ubuntu right now, so for some things you might need to explain a little more, Beldar, sorry.20:09
MaynardWatersI'll connect to the main server hosting the files nad play them via vlc over the network20:09
BeldarXasin, Sure, so this has or had a manufactures install of W8, conform if still and in these parameters. Also is Elf Efi?20:10
lolekhi guys, after one of the latest system updates (probably from saturday or maybe yesterday)... my system (12.04 ) has become unusable and it's slow like a snail. There is something wrong with the graphics I can see that right now when I type something .. piding is doing like 80% of cpu, compiz is doing 10% and /usr/bin/X is doing like 30% :/20:10
XasinAlso, if that is ok, I would like to use a private chat for fixing this problem. That way it is a little easier for me to follow.20:10
lolekmy machine is elitebook 2540p (intel graphic card)20:10
Nothing_MuchThe fakeroot debian/rules thing doesn't do anything20:11
lolekany idea what's wrong?20:11
BeldarXasin, I don;t do private, and you want the channel to see this, we all watch and help each other here, this is a complex issue.20:11
lolekoh, btw I've got external screen connected to this laptop20:11
XasinAlright. Well, if W8 means Windows 8, then yes. This PC came preinstalled with windows 8, and I let it update to the windows 8.1 version I think. I already have disabled safe boot, if that is important, and this Laptop has UEFI from my knowledge. How to check if ELF is EFI I do not know. ELF where the exact words on the error report.20:13
RaySdoing a xfs_ repair, tried a couple of times and it seems stuck on Phase 5 - rebuilding AG headers and trees20:15
RaySstrace doesn't show anything, but cpu on the proc is high.20:16
BeldarXasin, You best option is to use this app on the live ubuntu and run the bootinfo summary no repairs and post it at the thread provided in this post. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10871917#post1087191720:16
RaySnot sure whats going on and how to move forward20:16
XasinAlright then.20:16
BeldarXasin, Besides maybe one or two users here that thread is focused on these dual bots and are top notch.20:17
Beldarboots20:17
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XasinRight. One question: Should I just try the reinstallation of grub? After I installed the OS it did start fine. Only problem was that I could not use my Realtek WIFI, and a rather experienced friend told me to update the kernel, and how. After that I wanted to use grub customizer to change the names on the menue, and at that point it gave me an erro20:19
Xasinr.20:19
Moonlightningapt seems to be pointing /boot/{vmlinux,initrd.img}.old at the current versions. That's not intended behavior, is it?20:20
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BeldarXasin, preface responses to others with their nick, and I would not suggest messing with it in any way, I asked a couple of really basic but important questions E.g. UEFI and gpr and you were not familiar20:22
Beldargpt*20:22
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XasinRight, sorry Beldar. Then I will just do that.20:22
BeldarXasin, No biggie, we just want no bricking is all.20:23
cheaterBeldar: regarding my interrupted do-release-upgrade: i tried doing apt-get -f install but it says it couldn't get /var/lib/dpkg/lock20:24
roothorickWhere are the suspend/resume user scripts in 14.04? Apparently /etc/pm is defunct?20:24
cheaterwhat should i do?20:24
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Beldarcheater, And you had rebooted to the tty fresh?20:24
Beldarno other commands?20:25
cheaterno Beldar20:25
cheaterthat's the first command related to this that i ran right after pressint ctrl-c on do-release-upgrade.20:25
cheater*pressing20:25
Beldarcheater, You have tried to reboot right from your post you said it would not boot20:25
SchallaHello folks. I got the issue that I want to route subdomain.domain.ext to folder /var/www/subdomain and *.domain.ext (Excluding subdomain.domain.ext) to /var/www, how can you debug this proper? When enabled, my apache only routes to *.domain.ext20:25
cheaterno, i said i don't want to reboot, because i guess it wouldn't boot20:25
cheateri didn't reboot.20:26
cheateri ran do-release-upgrade, pressed ctrl-c, and didn't do anything else. then i did apt-get -f install and it's complaining about the lock.20:26
Beldarcheater, Ah my missread, how far into the setup was it?20:27
cheateri don't know anymore20:27
cheateri think "configuring packageS"20:27
cheaterif i do ps aux | grep dpkg then i see this:20:27
Beldarcheater, use nicks here please note I preface with yours.20:27
cheaterroot     17280  0.0  0.1  13496  8292 pts/0    Ss   20:45   0:00 /usr/bin/dpkg --force-overwrite --status-fd 56 --configure libdconf1:i386 dconf-service:i386 dconf-gsettings-backend:i386 libgtk-3-common:all libatk1.0-data:all libatk1.0-0:i386 libatspi2.0-0:i386 libatk-bridge2.0-0:i386 libxcb-render0:i386 libxcb-shm0:i386 libxrender1:i386 libcairo2:i386 libcairo-gobject2:i386 liblcms2-2:i386 ...20:27
XasinRight, Beldar, here the file: http://paste2.org/23t0C7np  (Yes, I have made no changes.)20:28
cheater... libcolord1:i386 libavahi-common-data:i386 libavahi-common3:i386 libavahi-client3:i386 libcups2:i386 libwayland-cursor0:i386 libxcomposite1:i386 libxfixes3:i386 libxcursor1:i386 libxdamage1:i386 libxinerama1:i386 (....and so on)20:29
cheaterBeldar: ok20:29
cheateri really need to get this going - i need the laptop for work tomorrow, and it's 10 pm already :(20:29
Beldarcheater, Your just in a situation that, if it were me since I have everything cloned I would just reboot to the tty and finish the upgrade, however some might say to unlock and try from there, not sure to be honest20:29
cheaterBeldar: where can i go to find someone who will know?20:30
cheaterbear in mind the dpkg process out there that's still running20:30
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Beldarcheater, Sure, but this is your issue not ours hurrying may be your worst move. This is an excellent channel, but this is not unusual but a user error, so you are a bit in limbo is all.20:31
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cheaterBeldar: are there other channels related to ubuntu?20:32
cheaterwith more activity perhaps?20:32
Beldarcheater, not on freenode.20:32
cheaterwhat about ones not on freenode?20:33
Beldarcheater, nicks man, I think you only real option is the reboot to a tty and pray.20:35
XasinBeldar, it also told me that EFI was detected, by the way. Would a reinstall with the standart EFI File do the job? Or would that now work out?20:36
cheaterBeldar: i think your advice is not sound.20:36
lolekguys, any idea what's wrong with unity on dual screen? /usr/bin/X is doing over 50% cpu when moving only mouse :(20:37
Beldarcheater, Being fully backed up and or a cloned OS was your best insurance, always be prepared for any contingency. If you think it is not sound don't do it, honestly it means nothing to me. ;)20:37
cheaterBeldar: you showing off and gleeing won't help me in my situation in any way.20:37
tpayneHow do i prevent my ubuntu ssh connection from timing out?20:37
BeldarXasin, Not sure, this UEFI stuff not many of us are familiar with.20:38
crc32I'm using the gnome network manage. How do I raise the timeout during authentication via 802.11x security? It just seems like it failes after 10 seconds or so.20:38
crc32?20:38
cheaterBeldar: if you have nothing constructive to say, spare me.20:38
XasinRight, so should I try the repair tool with standart EFI File option checked? Or is that something not recommended?20:38
Beldarcheater, NO I am a regular helper here have been for years, and have around 12000 post on the ubuntu forums under the nick wilee-nilee, I am being honest with you, and if I was messing with you the others here would say something.20:39
lolekeven unity 2d doesn't help.. only disconnecting secondary screen is working but it's not an option :/20:39
Beldarcheater, I did, but you are clueless so best of luck.20:39
Beldarcheater, and welcome to ignore.20:40
Beldarwhat an ass20:40
cheateri'm not going to comment on Beldar's exit.20:41
IdleOneGood idea. back to support now :)20:42
XasinGreat, there goes my help for grub ... Anybody else who can tell me if I should or should not use the boot repair tool?20:42
cheateri have made some progress actually20:42
coemahhello all, for two days I have the problem that my recently installed system boots without a splash screen, that is, the commands flow across a black background. when it's done, the recovery menu appears, where I select 'resume to normal boot', and when the system boots this time normally, there come graphical oddities, like bigger launcher size with some icons missing, and a short grey screen just before the desktop loads at start. I am writing from this la20:42
coemahtter system now. how can I fix this?20:42
subz3r0Xasin: no idea where the issue is. since i did not read it completely... but i suggest to save the boodloader and the partition table with "dd"20:43
cheaterapparently this dpkg that's in my ps is the one launched by do-release-upgrade, and using strace i can see it's waiting for the interactive bash session to terminate. I seem to remember that the whole thing was inside screen of some sort. the parent process of that dpkg process is called "saucy". So now there is the question of how can I receive a terminal which gets output from that dpkg again?20:43
XasinMy issue is following error at startup: invalid arch independent ELF magic, to inform you, subz3r0.20:44
xavierio07Hi, has anyone had any luck with unattended-updates... It runs fine but pulls down both security updates and package updates.  I only want the security updates and I've configured /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades to only pull down security upgrade.20:45
cobracommandhow do I make a shortcut on the desktop to a .sh file in a folder that has permissions (owner create and delete, group access files, others access files) in ubuntu unity 12.04?20:46
subz3r0Xasin: before you do anything, make backups all the time. just clone the MBR and the partition table20:46
XasinOk, luckily the boot repair can do that too.20:46
subz3r0like: sudo dd if=/dev/sdX of=mbr_save bs=512 count=120:46
subz3r0kk :)20:46
XasinAlright, there we go. Backup if I need to.20:47
infinmedhi20:48
XasinThe option for the separate /boot/efi option is poiting to sda2, which, to my knowledge, comes from Windows ... Is that an option to change?20:48
infinmedhttp://tptp.cc/images/me_first_sanctuary.jpg fan photos! lol this was yesterday20:48
XasinAt subz3r0.20:48
infinmederps what's the off topic channel20:49
infinmedi forget20:49
subz3r0ahhhh EFI...20:49
subz3r0Nevermind then!20:49
subz3r0i did not work with it for now. and nope i dont even want to ;)20:49
infinmedI found it20:49
XasinRight, that can help me a lot, can it ... So, anybody here with knowledge for these things? Or should I just try the repair?20:50
ozbrkxhi guys I want to download and install the leatest ATI drivers from the website but first I need to remove the drivers which I just installed from external drivers feature.20:50
crc32Does any one know how to raise the NetworkManager dhcp and 802.11x timeout value so that I don't lock my self out of the network should authentication take over 15 seconds20:50
crc32?20:50
ozbrkxhow can I delete the old drivers20:50
jhassehi! I'm having wifi problems and noticed that the newest firmware for my wifi card isn't in /lib/firmware. The package linux-firmware contains the file though. Why isn't it there?20:51
MagicSpudhello I have a dual boot system windows7-ubuntu12.04 and I use ubuntu most... the point is that I often use the moon button of my keyboard that it makes the computer totally stop except for a blinking led light. when I press the moon button again the system awakes exactly as I left it, music on or programs and windows I was using exactly as I left them. I find this saving energy state awesome...but I cant get windows 7 perform the20:52
MagicSpudsame any clue here?20:52
histoMagicSpud: perhaps ask in ##windows20:53
MagicSpudhisto I did...waiting20:53
histoMagicSpud: okay well they can help you with the windows suspend stuff20:53
ozbrkxany ideas for removing old graphichs drivers ? or should I format the all system20:54
coemahhello everyone, my system shows command lines at booting, and enters into recovery menu. when I select reboot there, it loads the system with graphical errors. how can I repair this?20:54
histoozbrkx: just apt-get remove packagename20:54
leeyaahello20:54
MagicSpudhisto just in case it wasnt working how would I enable this in ubuntu¿20:54
histocoemah: what errors20:54
leeyaaif i add bash /path/script.sh to rc.local would it run on system boot ?20:54
ozbrkxhisto: thats the problem I don't know the package name all I know is I installed it from20:54
histoMagicSpud: with power management settings20:55
ozbrkxhisto: Addinitonal drivers20:55
MagicSpudconfiguration?20:55
histoleeyaa: yes if it's executable and it exits 020:55
histoozbrkx: driver for what?20:55
leeyaahisto: only if it exits with 0 ?20:55
histoleeyaa: no errors20:55
histoleeyaa: and doesn't just hang open20:55
coemahhisto: big launcher icons, a short grey screen before desktop first appears..but aside from that, as I wrote, it enters into recovery20:55
ozbrkxhisto: Graphichs card (a.k.a. Atı Radeon HD 5830)20:55
coemahalso some icons missing from launcher20:55
leeyaahisto: yeah it does exit 020:56
histocoemah: what video driver are you using20:56
leeyaaso i only need to make it executable20:56
histoozbrkx: dpkg -l | grep fglrx20:56
leeyaathanks20:56
ozbrkxhisto: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7654995/20:57
leeyaahisto: so something like bash /mnt/hostopia_migration/software/xvfb_daemon.sh start should work yes ?20:57
histoozbrkx: you can remove the fglrx-amdcccle-update and fglrx-updates packages20:57
tezlexhello?20:58
histoleeyaa: why is it in /mnt?20:58
HornetI'm having issues with sshfs; a remote server will not let me move files via cut and paste in nautilus, or via some other utilities, with a generic 'operation not permitted' error, but an mv command via ssh, works perfectly20:58
leeyaahisto: doesnt matter, will it work? :)20:58
histoleeyaa: yes it does matter if that mountpoint is up or not when the script runs20:58
Hornetwhich as I understand it should be impossible20:58
leeyaahisto: it is local partition20:58
leeyaait isnt nfs20:58
ozbrkxhisto: E: Unable to locate package fglrx-amdcccle-update20:58
leeyaaor some network storage20:58
cheaterok, apparently it worked to kill that dpkg process, then run apt-get -f install, which aborted and told me to do sudo dpkg --configure -a.20:58
leeyaahisto: does it run before or after local partitions get mounted ?20:59
coemahhisto, it is possibly this:  Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller20:59
histoleeyaa: why don't you copy the script somewhere sane and use it20:59
leeyaahisto: long story20:59
leeyaawill it work or not if partition is local20:59
cheaterdpkg continued configuring packages.20:59
histocoemah: what were you doing when this occured.20:59
histoleeyaa: try and see21:00
leeyaahisto: well i cant reboot21:00
coemahhisto, trying to boot the system?21:00
leeyaaok, then the question is: should ir work ?21:00
leeyaait*21:00
histoleeyaa: why can't your reboot?21:00
histocoemah: was the system working before21:00
leeyaahisto: because i cant, not until the weekend21:00
histo!details | coemah21:00
ubottucoemah: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)21:00
ozbrkxhisto: ok I got it should I do anything after removing those two otherwise I will restart the system21:00
histoleeyaa: it should work but what you are doing makes no sense and I'm sure there is a better way21:01
coemahcoemah, yes, it worked first. after a short time from the system's installation, it began to give this error.21:01
histoozbrkx: What driver do you plan on using?21:01
leeyaahisto: yes, there is. ill add it to init.d scripts next week. for now i just needed to make sure it will autostart in case system gets rebooted for some reason21:01
coemahsorry..histo, yes, it worked first. after a short time from the system's installation, it began to give this error.21:02
histoleeyaa: depends on what your script does and it's exit status21:02
ozbrkxhisto: http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Linux%20x86_64#amd-catalyst-packages21:02
leeyaahisto: it exits with 021:02
histoleeyaa: then yes21:02
leeyaagret21:02
leeyaagreat* thanks21:02
histoozbrkx: okay well install those and reboot21:02
ozbrkxok21:02
HornetI'm having issues with sshfs; a remote server will not let me move files via cut and paste in nautilus, or via some other utilities, with a generic 'operation not permitted' error, but an mv command via ssh, works perfectly.  anyone encoutered this or similar before?21:03
ChiarotQuestion for you guys, I have a ubuntu server that is doing DHCP, I'd like to add a PXE server into my network as well, what would I add into the dhcpd.conf to ensure it points to the correct box for pxe?21:03
histoHornet: are you using the same user in command line as in the gui mode?21:03
Hornethisto: indeed21:04
histoChiarot: try in #ubuntu-server21:04
ChiarotK, thanks I'll try there.21:04
histoHornet: what if you move the files in a terminal from the mountpoint to some other place.21:04
fbdystangBeldar: so I have been trying to get this modem working on the current kernel as you suggested. It does show up in network manager, however it continuously states that it is disabled. Any advice?21:04
histoHornet: does it work that way?21:05
Hornethisto: that's how I'm working around it at the moment21:05
histoHornet: also what is the permissions of the mount point ls -l /sshfs/mount21:05
Hornetissue MAY be that the first place is a different physical drive to the destination21:05
Hornet77721:05
histoHornet: and the permissions of the destination?21:06
Hornetwait, it's changed to 0755 root after the sshfs command21:06
Hornetit was 777 hornet (local user)21:07
Picijust spent /2921:07
linuxuz3rhi21:07
linuxuz3rcan i change the unity dock color?21:07
Hornetwhere do you mean by destination? the entire remote filesystem? or just the place I'm trying to move files to?21:07
histoHornet: wel 755 would work for read but you wouldn't be able to write there21:08
Hornetwhere I'm trying to move the files from & to is all 77721:08
Hornetas I say, mv works perfectly21:08
histoHornet: ls -l file_you_are_trying_to_move   and ls -l /directory/your/moving/to    please pasatebin the results21:08
histoHornet: okay nvm then21:09
histoHornet: try gksu nautilus21:09
ozbrkxhisto: it says a previous installation has been detected21:09
histoozbrkx: ok21:09
histo!ati | ozbrkx21:09
ubottuozbrkx: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto21:09
nnnmmmlinuxuz3r, this may help. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/Theming#Unity_Panel21:09
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Hornethisto: it can't follow the mount21:10
histoHornet: are you writing to the mount or from it?21:11
Hornet'yes'21:11
histoHornet: so both read and write access is needed?21:11
Hornettrying to move/rename files from a dump directory into the proper place, on the NAS server21:12
Hornetindeed21:12
Hornetand mv works perfectly21:12
Hornetweirdly, the right-click nautilus/nemo command to move, also works21:12
Hornetbut not cut & paste21:12
histoHornet: if you are just moving files aroudn ont he nas why are you using sshfs21:12
Hornetbecause the network share doesn't share the entire computer21:13
Hornetand the drive I'm moving from isn't part of the share21:13
Hornetalso if I had them mounted as two shares, it would move files unintelligently21:13
Hornetif they're via ssh, a move is just a rename21:13
Hornetnot a download/upload21:14
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Hornetslightly different situation as the move is across drives21:14
Hornetbut principle applies21:14
histoHornet: probably has something to do with it being a tcp connection vs. udp but some network genius may provide more light on the situation.  If you mounted both places via some other means, not using ssh it would probably work.21:14
histoI have to go though21:15
Hornetk, many thanks for your hep thus far21:15
linuxuz3rcant seem to ping my ubuntu desktop from my ubuntu laptop21:15
linuxuz3rcan someone help21:16
patryk_siema21:16
patryk_kto pl21:16
jewardHi, I have to use AT&T Global Network VPN client.  It stomps on /etc/resolv.conf and spoild DNS for other VPNs.  Any idea how to fix this?21:16
PCPinjecti0nHey guys! is there a safe way to decrypt your home folder, during installation i decided to encrypt it and now i have an account-daemon error every startup...?21:17
WilsonMathewI am trying to install awesomewm in ubuntu 14.04. I did "sudo apt-get install awesome" but when I log out of ubuntu it doesn't let me choose the awesome desktop manager.21:18
fbdystangHi, I ran into an issue a while back. Network Manager automatically disables mobile broadband, and clicking to enable it just goes away after connection attempt. Please advise.21:18
WilsonMathewis there something I should be doing to set this up?21:18
WilsonMathewI got i3 on it and it was easy to get.21:19
linuxuz3rwhats a good temp monitor for ubuntu21:21
PCPinjecti0nHey guys! is there a safe way to decrypt your home folder, during installation i decided to encrypt it and now i have an account-daemon error every startup...?21:22
nnnmmmPCPinjecti0n, Is there anything on there worth saving?21:30
PCPinjecti0nnnnmmm: just a few customization21:31
PCPinjecti0nnnnmmm: would it make more sense to start from scratch?21:32
nnnmmmPCPinjecti0n, of the OS? I just wonder if a fresh install since you have the error would be faster and more solid.21:32
zykotick9PCPinjecti0n: fyi for next time, home folder encryption is "weak" IMO, consider FDE (LUKS) if you want security next time.21:32
PCPinjecti0nnnnmmm: you make a valid point. So i have a chrombook that i wiped and put an ssd onto it. Which os would run the best you think? atm i'm workin with xubuntu.21:33
PCPinjecti0nzykotick9: seeing as the previous gave me an error, i will do that next time. Thanks :)21:34
zykotick9PCPinjecti0n: pretty sure, ubuntu should offer encrypted-LVM as an option at install time21:34
gru_I am trying (to no avail) to find drivers for an drivers HP U160 usb monitor21:35
nnnmmmPCPinjecti0n, Never had a chromebook, not sure.21:35
PCPinjecti0nThank you guys for all the advice. Time to put it all into practice.21:36
ix1y21:37
cheaterhi21:41
cheateris dpkg the only thing that do-release-upgrade does?21:41
Bashing-omcheater: Well, 'dpkg' is the package management tool, 'do-release-upgrade' is the terminal command to upgrade to the next available release .21:45
cheaterBashing-om: right. my issue is that do-release-upgrade crashed.21:45
cheaterso i ran apt-get -f install which told me that i needed to run dpkg --configure -a.21:46
cheateri did that. are there any other steps left?21:46
Bashing-omcheater: Not good ! ..did you "sudo apt-get update/upgrade"before trying the do-release thing ??21:47
cheateryeah i did21:47
cheaterbut that's not relevant because do-release-upgrade does that anyways21:47
davidsongHi guys, does anyone else here have a really bad time with SMB shares and Nautilus?21:48
cheatercurrently this is my issue: http://pastebin.com/4pHhDdUT -- not sure how to resolve, any ideas?21:48
Bashing-omcheater: does "apt-get install -f " return any errors ?21:48
mirtociaoo21:48
Bashing-omcheater: look'n at 4pHhDdUT .21:49
boy_wandershello, I am having mouse issues with 14.04 LTS21:49
davidsongboy_wanders: what type of issues?21:50
cheaterapt-get -f install exits without errors or dong anything.21:50
boy_wandersWhen I first boot into Ubuntu my mouse can only click on the top bar and the side taskbar, but not on windows21:50
boy_wandersto allow me to use the computer I have to log out and back in, then it works fine21:51
dreampwnzorhi, is WoW OpenGL mode still supported?...21:51
Doxinso sendmail keeps sending mail from @localhost, even though hostname -f gives my domain name correctly, what gives?21:52
WilsonMathewls21:52
davidsongcheater: "udev : Depends: libudev1"... and the version appears to be old. Can you force-update that one package?21:52
davidsongcheater: my version here is 204-5ubuntu20.221:52
cheaterdavidsong: what i just did was apt-get update libudev1... waiting for it to finish21:52
cheaterhow do you "force update"?21:52
davidsongah okay cool21:52
davidsongthat ought to do it, but use -f if that doesnt work I guess21:53
cheaternote that apt-get update libudev1 actually didn't mention libudev1 !21:53
Bashing-omcheater: " apache2.2-bin : Breaks: gnome-user-share (< 3.8.0-2~) but 3.0.4-0ubuntu1 is installed." suacy version is 3.0.4 .. where did you install from ( apache !) // "udev : Depends: libudev1 (= 204-0ubuntu19.2) but 204-2~raring+1 is installed." what release are you running ????21:53
cheaterBashing-om: i was doing release upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10.21:54
cheatertechnically now i'm running 13.10.21:54
Bashing-omcheater: Not good ! 13.04 is End-of-life .. did you change your sources to point to "old-releases" ??21:55
cheaterno idea?21:55
cheaterthere might be no way to check right now21:55
cheaterok. apt-get finished.21:56
cheaterrunning aptitude dist-upgrade still shows me a huge conflict.21:56
cheaterapt-get upgrade shows me: The following packages have been kept back: apache2.2-bin libapache2-mod-dnssd php5-dev ubuntu-drivers-common udev winetricks21:57
jakempIs there any way to get ubuntu to not shuffle all of my windows whenever I add a second monitor? It seems totally random, but mostly it moves everything to one desktop21:57
Bashing-omcheater: Houston, we may have a problem. let's look -> cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit <- and we still have to deal with too new versions as well as too old sources (yuk).21:57
cheaterhere you go Bashing-om http://paste.ubuntu.com/7655253/21:59
Bashing-omcheater: look'n21:59
cheaternot sure what you mean by "too old sources", 13.10 is neither EOL nor old..21:59
surelyjakemp, Do you want the second monitor to mirror the first, adding while running can be problematic in this way?21:59
jakempno, I don't want it to mirror it22:00
jakempI just have 3x3 or 4x4 virtual desktop/workspaces or whatever they are called22:01
jakempand adding and removing a monitor reshuffles where I have them22:01
Bashing-omcheater: sources.list looks good .. so where is 'raring' coming from pastebin -> tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* <-.22:02
surelyjakemp, Can you just hook the monitor and set it up, or do you always have to be adding it, not sure why your adding more than once22:02
cheaterBashing-om: that's because i just upgraded from raring to saucy, and the old package is the raring version...22:02
cheaterlibudev is still the raring version..22:02
jakempsurely, it's a laptop. I have to remove the monitor when I move the laptop.22:03
jakemplike when I go to work, or come home22:03
phallixanyone know about alsamixer channel mapping for speakers?22:03
Bashing-omcheater: Be that as so, we still need to insure that there are no existing sources fetches for that no longer in existence repository.22:03
cheaterwhat it says exactly is:22:04
cheater udev : Depends: libudev1 (= 204-0ubuntu19.2) but 204-2~raring+1 is to be installed22:04
surelyjakemp, Not sure, but it would seem logical to plugin the monitor when the computer is off set it up and party.22:04
cheaterhow can i modify what "is to be installed"?22:04
lolekok, I can confirm that the high cpu load with compiz and x.org occurs only when I connect external monitor, no matter when I connect it22:05
jakempsurely, but that would require me shutting down the computer every time I move it, no?22:05
jakempalso, I don't always have a second monitor when I am out.22:05
phallixplease, anyone speaker mapping in Ubuntu?22:05
surelyjakemp, Why yes it would, my guess is your contingencies just makes this harder to fix is all.22:05
lolekso the question is what's wrong with x.org/ubuntu and dual screen?22:05
phallixi only get sound through subwoofer and only shows one speaker in alsamixer22:06
jakempwell, it wouldn22:06
jakemp't be a problem at all if I just shut everything down.22:06
lolekugh x.org 100% :/22:09
lolekhmm I don't think it's normall that I7 can't handle simple unity :/22:09
cheateri edited /var/lib/dpkg/status to point to the right version of libudev1. doing apt-get install libudev1 downloaded and installed the question udev is asking for.22:09
cheaterapt-get dist-upgrade -u installs the new udev.22:10
XasinHello! Can somebody tell me how to activate a menu for GRUB instead of having to input the start command (Which is inconveniently long)?22:11
phallixplease let me know if you can help with Ubuntu sound directing to proper speakers22:12
lolekXasin: take a look at: /etc/default/grub22:12
Bashing-omcheater: Making progress .. nowto deal with "gnome-user-share" . What is going on with "apache2.2-bin" ? -> apt-cache policy apache2.2-bin <-.22:12
skinuxIs there possibly an app for searching repository that could be searched using more than one keyword to narrow down search results?22:12
cheaterafter fixing apache as well, aptitude dist-upgrade doesn't show naything to update.22:13
cheateri removed gnome-user-share since i don't use it.22:13
lolekskinux: apt-cache search keyword1 | grep -i keyword2 ?22:13
XasinRight, lolek, I will. I wanted to use GRUB Custimizer, but it throws an error and doesn't let me set up the menu correctly when I want to save.22:13
cheaterok so i guess i'm now in the green22:13
cheaterthanks for the rubber ducking Bashing-om22:13
XasinSo, you worked your problem out, Cheater? ^-^22:14
lolekXasin: well you can change it manually, but don't forget to run: update-grub after you finish ;)22:14
cheateryes, it took a long time22:14
cheaterand it was an annoying problem, created by people who made ubuntu.22:14
cheater:(22:14
skinuxNot exactly what I'm looking for22:14
Bashing-omcheater: OK, there were 53 updates pending .. what now results -> sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade , sudo apt-get dist-upgrade <- then we see about 14.04 release.22:14
skinuxMaybe something that would narrow it down based on only package name, not description22:15
XasinRight, I will, thanks lolek. I can use the commands which I can read throu GRUB Editor thou, can't I? I successfully started my PC with the commands. (But that is too complicated. That UID? Too long.)22:15
cheaterBashing-om: no new packages to install22:15
cheaterBashing-om: i'm not going to continue upgrading to 14.04 now...22:16
cheateri'll stay with 13.1022:16
cheaterone thing i need to do now is to figure out if i can reboot22:16
Bashing-omcheater: If all runs clean now ,, I see no reason not to do the -> sudo do-release-upgrade <-. See what results.22:17
cheaterno way22:17
Bashing-omcheater: 13.10 is EOL next month.22:17
cheaterthat's fine22:17
cheateri'll do this next month, perhaps.22:17
cheaterit's not like my pc will suddenly stop working..22:17
cheaterright now i need to check if this thing boots up, and if yes, i need to get some sleep!22:18
cheaterwaking up really early tomorrow22:18
cheaterthanks for the help Bashing-om  :)22:18
Bashing-omcheater: OK .. suits me as you are fine as of now .. enjoy .22:18
cheaterreally appreciated22:18
Bashing-omcheater: I did nada, you did all the work .. lol .22:19
cheaterand thanks IdleOne :)22:19
cheaterBashing-om: you did the support!22:19
brentwal1herHi all. Who do I need to talk to/contact about updating a package in the ubuntu-devel repos?22:19
cheaterok, rebooting now :)22:19
indieguy87how to pronounce sudo?22:20
XasinRiiiight, I am in the etc/default/grub file. What exactly do I change to enable the menu, lolek?22:20
lolekGRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=false22:21
lolekGRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=122:21
loleki think this should work22:21
lolekbut I'm unable to cofirm cause my ubuntu is almost not working22:21
XasinOh, ok.22:21
jjavaholiclooking for IM client that supports yahoo video call protocol22:23
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michagogoindieguy87: I think the creator pronounces it soo-doo22:27
michagogoAs in, Su Do22:27
michagogoMany others use soo-dough22:27
skinuxIs pdftohtml package now inside poppler utilities?22:28
zykotick9skinux: try "apt-cache search pdftohtml" to confirm22:31
cheaterhi!22:32
sly33hi22:32
cheatersadly, the thing doesn't boot up :(22:32
cheaterso what happens is that when i start it, there's this purple (?) screen with white dots and the ubuntu logo. it hangs on that.22:33
cheateri cna switch to tty and get on irc that way, but there's no desktop.22:33
cheaterit stops booting before it shows the login screen.22:33
cheaterone issue might be that i have mate desktop installed (version 1.6 iirc)22:33
Bashing-omcheater: mate, could be .. what results with the grub boot parameter 'text" replacing "quiet splash" to boot to TTY1, then see if you can start the GUI ??22:35
ekidohi22:36
cheaterBashing-om: how would i start the gui?22:36
cheateras in, with what command?22:36
skinuxI did try that, poppler utilities came up, but I'm trying to make sure it's inside that package.22:37
Bashing-omcheater: try as "sudo service lightdm start" .22:37
cheaterhmm22:38
ian__I'm trying to install some software, but I want to install the program to another hdd, because I don't have the space on my current one. Is there an easy way to do this?22:39
cheaterBashing-om: did that. it showed me the login screen, after which it went back to the tty. searching the tty's (pressing alt-f1 through f8) does not show me a graphical display.22:40
cheaterHOWEVER, that login screen was different to the one i'm used to seeing.22:40
cheateriirc i replaced lightdm with gdm because that's what MATE wanted.22:40
Bashing-omcheater: Let's make sure you are authorized to start the GUI -> ls -la .Xauthority , ls -la .ICEauthority <- should be "you" as group and owner .22:42
Extensa5630Gcheater: Go on, I'm curious to know the solution with you22:42
Bashing-omcheater: Nothing syas we can not attempt to start GDM .. -> sudo service gdm start <- .22:42
cheaterdoing service gdm start does not help - it dumps me to a black tty with a cursor blinking (tty 7)22:44
cheaterBashing-om: where should those files be?22:45
Extensa5630Gcheater: home directory?22:45
cheaterBashing-om: in my home dir, .ICEauthority is owned by me, .Xauthority doesn't exist.22:45
amzoltAnyone answer a ClamTk question for me?22:45
Bashing-omcheater: In your /home directory .. maybe have to do the explict path -> ls -la ~/.Xauthority .22:46
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cheaterdoesn't exist22:47
cheaterwhich is fine i guess22:47
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Bashing-omcheater: .Xauthority should exist .. and be created when you boot up ... not sure presntly what we will do about .Xauthority !22:48
cheaterBashing-om: i suggest ignoring it for now.22:49
cheaterthe issue is gdm not starting properly.22:49
Bashing-omcheater: No .Xauthority, no authorization to access the GUI .22:49
Extensa5630Gwhy can't he just create the file?22:50
Extensa5630G*doesn't*22:50
cheateralright, let's try to ma an .Xauthority file22:51
donixcip22:51
Bashing-omExtensa5630G: cheater:: it is a thouhgt, though the system should creat that .Xauthority file .. sure will not hurt to try.22:51
donixtrying to convert to Ubuntu from kubuntu.22:51
donixtrying to keep data (video, pics, etc) and a KDE22:51
Extensa5630GBashing-om: what is important is what should he write in the fime22:52
Extensa5630G*file22:52
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Bashing-omcheater: Extensa5630G Got me .. that is "security" and above my head how/what the system writes to the file .. -rw------- 1 sysop sysop 156 Jan 19 08:49 /home/sysop/.Xauthority .. might try a "touch" and see what the system does on a reboot .22:55
cheaterin #mate i was told to have a look at Xorg.0.log22:56
cheateryou can find it here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7655449/22:56
cheaterBashing-om: shouldn't have anything to do with this since it craps out before i can even get the login screen. so the issue is not related to any one user.22:57
Extensa5630GBashing-om: he can google about the file using lynx as well22:57
Bashing-omcheater:  Extensa5630G :: Let me back out of all I have going on and reboot, as I boot to terminal, and see what is prior to starting the GUI .. be back in a bit.22:59
Extensa5630GUm'23:00
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bananapotionHello. When using the intel card (nvidia-prime) transparency doesn't work, on the sidebar for instance23:16
atrioomssh-add refuses to add one of my private keyfiles. What could be the reason for that? ssh-add asks for passphrase and then nothing. Key is not added.23:16
bananapotionWhat could be the problem?23:16
balleyneatrioom, how are you verifying that the key is not added?23:16
atrioomballeyne: ssh-add yields 'The agent has no identities'23:17
Bashing-omcheater: Well, that was an exercise in futility "-rw------- 1 sysop sysop 156 Jan 19 08:49 .Xauthority" as my file has existed from Jan 19 // Ok a bit of poking (quickly) says "auth" has to create that file.23:17
atrioomballeyne: Thank you for answering btw!23:18
atrioomI desperately installed putty on ubuntu (isn't that shameful?) and it works perfectly with said keyfile.23:18
finlstrmputty = ikky. we have a terminal for that23:19
balleyneatrioom, hmm, and it's just that one keypair that it's not working for? (btw, you can use your keypair with OpenSSH without using ssh-add -- though ssh-add adds some convenience)23:19
atrioomJep. I burrow my head in shame.23:19
balleyneatrioom, oh, wait... was the keypair generated with PuTTy or OpenSSH?23:20
atrioomballeyne: When I generate a key on my machine, ssh-add takes it. The private keyfile was not generated on this machine. Could that be the reason?23:20
balleyneatrioom, https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2224066/how-to-convert-ssh-keypairs-generated-using-puttygenwindows-into-key-pairs-use23:21
atrioomuuuhhhh, that looks promising!23:21
balleyneatrioom, that might be it. I don't use PuTTy, but IIRC, PuTTy keyfiles are not in the same format that OpenSSH uses, can't just share them back and forth, need to convert23:21
atrioomballeyne: Well thanks a bunch! I'll try converting and see how it goes!23:22
compnskihey, I'm on Trusty Tahr -- can I go back from procps-ng back to procps? [I'm having trouble with keybindings in top]23:22
balleyneatrioom, np!23:22
cheaterBashing-om: apparently i just need to uninstall gdm and use lightdm.23:25
cheaterbut ill do that tomorrow.23:25
cheateri can get a desktop apparently if i start lightdm by hand.23:26
cheaterthanks for the help and support. highly appreciated.23:26
atrioomballeyne: so successful. I am so incredibly glad I can go to bed now actually understanding what was going on :D23:26
wheatthincheater, if it starts by hand, you can make it autoload rc-update lightdm defaults23:26
wheatthinor enable*23:27
cheatertomorrow... its really late23:27
cheaterthanks though23:27
wheatthinyup23:27
cheaterbye!23:27
wheatthinjust sat down.. sorry it's late23:27
wheatthinlaterz23:27
Bashing-omcheater: We can try that and see, I have chores to do, so will be afkb for a spell .. I will be back -- ya might need to sleep on this.23:27
wheatthinlol too late Bashing-om23:28
Bashing-omtoo late cheater .23:28
mbuvarpURL http://www.reddit.com23:33
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bananapotionHello. When using the intel card (nvidia-prime) transparency doesn't work, on the sidebar for instance23:36
Joelin rhel you can remove a package from the db but leave ALL files in place, can I do that on ubuntu?23:42
sly33?23:42
sly33you mean uninstall a software and leaving conf files for example ?23:43
Joelno.23:45
jribJoel: you could but that's not recommended and why would you want to?  I don't know how offhand23:45
Joeljrib, thanks, I'll google more.23:46
jribJoel: I'd urge you to try to explain the situation you are in that makes you want to do this as there may be a better solution you haven't come across23:46
JoelYou're not in a spot to suggest a better solution if you've never had to do it imho.23:47
jribJoel: you haven't explained the issue.23:47
L0uk3I just watched the ubuntu phone and tablet videos --sweet. They talked about native apps but did not show them. I assume you can launch a terminal and run shell code etc...?23:48
Joeljrib, you didn't read the last thing I typed.23:48
jribJoel: if you want help, my advice is that you explain your actual issue.  I'll leave you with that.  Best of luck.23:48
Joeljrib, you didn't read the last thing I typed.23:49
jribJoel: I believe I've read everything you've typed since joining this channel.  If you stated your actual issue, then I may have missed it.  Can you repeat it?23:49
kg-ircDoes anyone know a good ufw log parser?23:50
Joeljrib, you didn't read the last thing I typed.23:50
jribJoel: I'll take that as a "no"23:50
Joeljrib, you didn't read the last thing I typed.23:51
geniiJoel: Not sure why you'd want to do this. But the way to mark a package as not installed but still have it installed is to edit the stanza for it in the file /var/lib/dpkg/status and change the line reading "Status: install ok installed"   to "Status: deinstall ok config-files"23:51
Joelgenii, thanks!23:52
fizyplanktonis there a good ubuntu raid software that can convert a single existing drive into a raid 1 (mirror) array without too many side effects? i usually do raid through cmos, but my cmos doesnt do it23:55
jrib!raid | fizyplankton23:56
ubottufizyplankton: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto23:56
intokWhat do I need if I want to get the Radeon VCE hardware transcoder working in 10.04?23:56
intok14.04*23:57
geniiJoel: Please note: If this package is a dependency of other packages which are already installed, when you update/upgrade next time you will get the "you have held onto broken packages" messages and update/upgrade will fail23:58
Joelgenii yeah, won't affect me for my use case.23:58

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