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lwizardlhello05:00
lwizardlI was wondering how can I set xubuntu to lock the screen but not hibernate so that applications can stay running05:01
nikolamWhat should I do with this dying indicator plugin. Anyone using some other tray app for xfce06:13
nikolamalso I am puzzled with exitance of 'IBus Preferences' now, when there is Keyboard layouts06:14
bazhang!info alltray | nikolam06:14
ubottunikolam: alltray (source: alltray): Dock any program into the system tray. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.71b-1 (trusty), package size 53 kB, installed size 240 kB06:14
bazhangibus brings up a multi choice character list, such as for Mandarin, Japanese, Korean, where the number of characters are far greater than the keyboard keys06:16
nikolamIt have problem with languages with multiple layouts, and assigning keyboard layout shortcut, I would love to see it gone, when i have keyboard layout working fine06:17
bazhangwhat languages are those nikolam06:18
nikolamBut I need Serbian Latin/Cyrilic and Keyboard layout plugin does that ok06:18
nikolamand ibus does not, it brings only cyrilic06:18
bazhangLatin...06:19
nikolamI also have to wait upd to few minutes for application launcehr to start (Alt+F2)06:38
nikolamand bunch of xfce4 apps survive logout06:38
nikolamlike xfrun4 and xfce4-volumed and pulseaudio06:38
nikolamand there are like 3 inits etc06:38
nikolamprobably for every log in I do06:38
bazhangsounds like an overmatched system06:46
bazhangwhat are the system specs06:46
nikolamxfce4-power-manager also survives logout06:57
nikolam2GB RAM, P4 3Ghz, 8600GT 64bit06:57
bazhangso much lower end06:58
nikolammost of the time a gig is free07:01
bazhangtry lubuntu07:02
bazhangor the mini iso and build up slowly to match system specs07:02
nikolamno man, xubuntu is just fine on this system, that is not the problem. Problem is that upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 get things wrong.07:02
nikolamIt is pretty fast and working just fine.07:03
bazhangwhat exact things got wrong07:03
bazhang<nikolam> I also have to wait upd to few minutes for application launcehr to start (Alt+F2)07:04
nikolam1. LAN network not sharing wireless internet to LAN on startup untill clicked 2. indicator plugin dying and displaying much of GNOME stuff and some small ones07:04
bazhangthat doesnt sound fast07:04
nikolamyes, that too.07:04
nikolamI think I will need to reinstall fresh 14.04 to rule out update problems07:05
nikolambut it is nothing new that in ubuntu in general, updates are not tested right07:05
nikolamso fresh install is always better.07:06
bazhangthats not correct at all07:06
* nikolam wonders if can come up with fresh install on BTRFS that could be done in-place in the future07:06
nikolambazhang, well, with people (me) using PPAs during lifetime of release and other things, not single update for me worked right to the latter actually, for years07:07
nikolamAnd it is always good advice to do fresh install , at least for LTS it is best07:07
bazhanghow many PPAs are we talking and which ones07:07
nikolambazhang, It varies at me for years, like 5 or 6 at average07:08
bazhangno wonder then07:08
nikolamI had times when I uninstalled them before updates and again, updates are not strong side of ubuntu between releases07:09
bazhangupgrades automatically disables PPAs07:09
* nikolam still wanders why many apps were removed from repos in 14.0407:09
bazhangcheck the release notes07:09
nikolambazhang, yes and it its doing by commenting them so user need to edit every one of them to get them back... I know07:10
nikolamIt is also not best behaviour.07:10
bazhangPPAs are a mine field07:10
bazhangand using half a dozen or more, thats likely a huge stability problem07:11
nikolamyes they are, but beside that, update also is, even without ppas. or with ppa packages uninstalled07:11
nikolamI will do reinstall anyway, i am sick of looking in the dark after update.07:11
bazhangso what are these Six PPA07:12
nikolamvirtualbox, zfs-native, libreoffice, and I added fengestad for fs-uae.07:14
nikolamInterestingly, After removing zfs-native, Nvidia graphic was working in vga-only. It get back only after re-installing zfs07:15
STEVE1978Hey Guys10:22
STEVE1978Can anyone help me to install CUPS?10:22
STEVE1978I am TOTALY NEW to Linux, but an advanced Windows User10:22
cfhowlettSTEVE1978 sudo apt-get install cups10:24
poeticrpmisnt cups already installed on Xubuntu?10:32
poeticrpmI just plugged my printer in and it was setup in about 30 seconds10:33
cfhowlettpoeticrpm it's in the main repo - not sure if it's actually in the default install10:34
poeticrpmcfhowlett, hrrmmphh.. I could have swore it was10:35
cfhowlettpoeticrpm if you have it but you didn't install it - it's in the default.10:35
poeticrpmcfhowlett, im on Arch atm, so I dont want to jump to conclusions :)10:36
poeticrpmyoure prolly right10:36
poeticrpmbut i cant remember the last time I had to install cups on any *buntu. Plug in the printer, wait 30 seconds, print. Unless they changed this recently?10:37
cfhowlettpoeticrpm that's the way it was supposed to work ...10:37
poeticrpmcfhowlett, oh im sorry, you mean buntu downloads cups and configures it the first time? That would make sense I guess.10:38
poeticrpmit doesnt work that way on Arch. Jesus. Nothing worse than setting up a damn printer on Arch10:39
poeticrpmand then to have it break due to some change 3 months later and have to do it again. Anyways end off topic10:39
cfhowlettpoeticrpm thus I run ONLY LTS versions ...10:40
poeticrpmcfhowlett, haha, yeah, LTS is cool for sure10:41
STEVE1978@cfhowlett : will try10:43
cfhowlettSTEVE1978 current LTS is 14.04 - go forth and conquer!10:43
STEVE1978any good tutorials on learning the basic linux terminal commands?10:47
STEVE1978I am sooooo done with Windows!10:47
cfhowlettSTEVE1978 http://www.linuxine.com/linuxbooks10:47
STEVE1978anything on youtube?10:48
cfhowlettSTEVE1978 only a few million10:48
poeticrpmSTEVE1978, https://wiki.archlinux.org/  <--- One of the best resources for linux10:48
poeticrpmi should clarify, for making things work/setting things up10:48
poeticrpmcfhowletts link is better for learning straight cli10:49
knomepoeticrpm, except it's for arch, and some of the things aren't in par with what ubuntu has. so it might be suboptimal for new ubuntu users.10:49
STEVE1978LOL, thanks everyone10:52
STEVE1978Linux Roc ks!10:52
poeticrpmknome, yeah, ill give you that :)10:59
STEVE1978what's the fastest browser to use with Linux ( Flash Supported)11:07
cfhowlett!browser|STEVE197811:09
ubottuSTEVE1978: Some of the Web Browsers in Ubuntu's repositories include: Firefox (XUL, Gecko), Rekonq (KDE, WebKit), Konqueror (KDE, KHTML/WebKit), Chromium (GTK+, WebKit), Epiphany(GTK+, WebKit), Arora (Qt/KDE, WebKit), Midori (GTK+, WebKit), w3m (terminal-based), links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !manpage), edbrowse (terminal-based). Along with many others.11:09
poeticrpmSTEVE1978, prolly chromium or chrome as much as I hate to say it11:12
poeticrpmI wish people cared more about ideals than speed, but thats just me.11:12
STEVE1978how do i install chrome?11:14
STEVE1978I am also an android user, so chrome would be good11:14
cfhowlettsudo apt-get install chromium11:14
cfhowlett!chromium11:14
ubottuYou can get testing builds for Chromium at https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa11:14
poeticrpmmakes no difference whether you use android11:14
STEVE1978is chromium the same as chrome?11:15
STEVE1978is chromium the same as chrome?11:17
cro_http://askubuntu.com/questions/6253/whats-the-difference-between-google-chrome-and-or-chromium-what-are-the-advant11:19
STEVE1978thanks cro11:20
cro_so, i guesse the answer is "yes" but ... :P11:20
STEVE1978any way of running coreldraw through wine instead of using virtualbox?11:22
poeticrpmdo a google search for "wine appdb"11:24
cfhowlett!wine|STEVE197811:24
ubottuSTEVE1978: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu11:24
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STEVE1978How do I install Inkscape on Xubuntu?13:16
cfhowlettSTEVE1978 sudo apt-get install inkscape13:16
STEVE1978good alternative to photoshop that can remove backgrounds?13:18
cfhowlettSTEVE1978 gimp13:18
STEVE1978can i install skype on linux?13:20
GridCube!info skype13:20
ubottuPackage skype does not exist in trusty13:20
GridCube!find skype13:20
ubottuFound: empathy-skype, pidgin-skype, pidgin-skype-common, pidgin-skype-dbg13:20
GridCubenot from the usc, probably from their own .deb tho13:20
cfhowlettSTEVE1978 but of course!13:21
cfhowlettSTEVE1978 search out skype for linux, download and install.13:21
STEVE1978You guys are awesome... thanks13:24
STEVE1978especially CFHOWLETT13:24
cfhowlettSTEVE1978 happy2help13:24
STEVE1978how do you unistall a program that was installed through wine?13:24
cfhowlettSTEVE1978 uninstall wine software13:25
STEVE1978Woohoo..loving Linux!13:29
STEVE1978should have made the move from Windows Years Ago!13:29
cfhowlettSTEVE1978 www.fullcirclemagazine.org      for lots of fun ubuntu projects13:31
STEVE1978how do i move the panel to the bottom instead of the top of the screen...lik windows?14:17
cfhowlettSTEVE1978 "move" panel?  just make a new one.14:17
cfhowlettSTEVE1978 settings > settings manager > panel14:18
GridCubeSTEVE1978, go to the setting of the panel and unlock it, when unlocked you can drag it to the bottom of the screen by clicing on any of its corners14:24
GridCubeno need to make a new one, tho you can do that too14:24
STEVE1978where can i see wifi networks on the pc?14:32
STEVE1978i have a usb dongle14:32
STEVE1978where do i find the Network Manager?14:34
GridCubein the panel, its the two arrows thing14:42
GridCubeyou can also launch the nm-connection-editor from a terminal14:42
m1dnight_hey guys, Is there a workaround for the suspend issue? (waking up from suspend goes to login and then to a black screen)14:59
m1dnight_I've tried nvidia drivers but they failed on me15:00
m1dnight_(one driver killed X, and the other didnt make a difference, so I'm on nouveau now)15:00
m1dnight_Turning off lock on wakeup fixes it15:00
m1dnight_but I'd like to maintain the lock15:00
m1dnight_Just hearing if there might be a workaround :) otherwise I'll live15:00
GridCubem1dnight_, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/130373615:04
ubottuUbuntu bug 1303736 in xfce4-power-manager "[SRU] Black screen after wakeup from suspending by closing the laptop lid" [Undecided,New]15:04
m1dnight_I know15:13
m1dnight_I've marked as being affected:)15:13
m1dnight_but perhaps one of the linux senseis knew a workaround15:13
GridCubetheres no need for a workaround, there is a fix released15:27
elfynot released to trusty yet - still SRU15:32
m1dnight_It worked at some point, but then there was a system update and it stopped working again15:33
xubuntu_ITALY???19:05
knomexubuntu_, sorry?19:06
xubuntu_italy language????19:06
knome!it | xubuntu_19:06
ubottuxubuntu_: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)19:06
bgardner... "Why, thank you knome!" ... is what he meant to say.19:31
ronaldsmazitissomebody sees what I written in #facebook19:45
holsteinronaldsmazitis: imporoving screenlocking?19:59
knomeholstein, yes, facebook is the secret gateway to make xubuntu developers work on whatever you say20:05
knomeoops, now i let it slip20:05
holsteinlol20:08
ozbrkxhi guys I know this make you angry but I decided to switvh back to windows. Because of the facebook and the other full of java codes based websited of couse they allways freezes and makes my all coumputer like hell.20:45
ozbrkxthere is no hope to take full performance to my graphichs card (Ati Radeon HD 5800)20:46
ozbrkxbecause there is no such driver fot that the leatest driver which released by Ati is from 2006 or 2005 so it's posibbly six years old driver I suppose20:47
ozbrkxhang on a second it is not :/20:49
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