[05:00] <lwizardl> hello
[05:01] <lwizardl> I was wondering how can I set xubuntu to lock the screen but not hibernate so that applications can stay running
[06:13] <nikolam> What should I do with this dying indicator plugin. Anyone using some other tray app for xfce
[06:14] <nikolam> also I am puzzled with exitance of 'IBus Preferences' now, when there is Keyboard layouts
[06:14] <bazhang> !info alltray | nikolam
[06:16] <bazhang> ibus brings up a multi choice character list, such as for Mandarin, Japanese, Korean, where the number of characters are far greater than the keyboard keys
[06:17] <nikolam> It have problem with languages with multiple layouts, and assigning keyboard layout shortcut, I would love to see it gone, when i have keyboard layout working fine
[06:18] <bazhang> what languages are those nikolam
[06:18] <nikolam> But I need Serbian Latin/Cyrilic and Keyboard layout plugin does that ok
[06:18] <nikolam> and ibus does not, it brings only cyrilic
[06:19] <bazhang> Latin...
[06:38] <nikolam> I also have to wait upd to few minutes for application launcehr to start (Alt+F2)
[06:38] <nikolam> and bunch of xfce4 apps survive logout
[06:38] <nikolam> like xfrun4 and xfce4-volumed and pulseaudio
[06:38] <nikolam> and there are like 3 inits etc
[06:38] <nikolam> probably for every log in I do
[06:46] <bazhang> sounds like an overmatched system
[06:46] <bazhang> what are the system specs
[06:57] <nikolam> xfce4-power-manager also survives logout
[06:57] <nikolam> 2GB RAM, P4 3Ghz, 8600GT 64bit
[06:58] <bazhang> so much lower end
[07:01] <nikolam> most of the time a gig is free
[07:02] <bazhang> try lubuntu
[07:02] <bazhang> or the mini iso and build up slowly to match system specs
[07:02] <nikolam> no man, xubuntu is just fine on this system, that is not the problem. Problem is that upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 get things wrong.
[07:03] <nikolam> It is pretty fast and working just fine.
[07:03] <bazhang> what exact things got wrong
 I also have to wait upd to few minutes for application launcehr to start (Alt+F2)
[07:04] <nikolam> 1. LAN network not sharing wireless internet to LAN on startup untill clicked 2. indicator plugin dying and displaying much of GNOME stuff and some small ones
[07:04] <bazhang> that doesnt sound fast
[07:04] <nikolam> yes, that too.
[07:05] <nikolam> I think I will need to reinstall fresh 14.04 to rule out update problems
[07:05] <nikolam> but it is nothing new that in ubuntu in general, updates are not tested right
[07:06] <nikolam> so fresh install is always better.
[07:06] <bazhang> thats not correct at all
[07:06]  * nikolam wonders if can come up with fresh install on BTRFS that could be done in-place in the future
[07:07] <nikolam> bazhang, well, with people (me) using PPAs during lifetime of release and other things, not single update for me worked right to the latter actually, for years
[07:07] <nikolam> And it is always good advice to do fresh install , at least for LTS it is best
[07:07] <bazhang> how many PPAs are we talking and which ones
[07:08] <nikolam> bazhang, It varies at me for years, like 5 or 6 at average
[07:08] <bazhang> no wonder then
[07:09] <nikolam> I had times when I uninstalled them before updates and again, updates are not strong side of ubuntu between releases
[07:09] <bazhang> upgrades automatically disables PPAs
[07:09]  * nikolam still wanders why many apps were removed from repos in 14.04
[07:09] <bazhang> check the release notes
[07:10] <nikolam> bazhang, yes and it its doing by commenting them so user need to edit every one of them to get them back... I know
[07:10] <nikolam> It is also not best behaviour.
[07:10] <bazhang> PPAs are a mine field
[07:11] <bazhang> and using half a dozen or more, thats likely a huge stability problem
[07:11] <nikolam> yes they are, but beside that, update also is, even without ppas. or with ppa packages uninstalled
[07:11] <nikolam> I will do reinstall anyway, i am sick of looking in the dark after update.
[07:12] <bazhang> so what are these Six PPA
[07:14] <nikolam> virtualbox, zfs-native, libreoffice, and I added fengestad for fs-uae.
[07:15] <nikolam> Interestingly, After removing zfs-native, Nvidia graphic was working in vga-only. It get back only after re-installing zfs
[10:22] <STEVE1978> Hey Guys
[10:22] <STEVE1978> Can anyone help me to install CUPS?
[10:22] <STEVE1978> I am TOTALY NEW to Linux, but an advanced Windows User
[10:24] <cfhowlett> STEVE1978 sudo apt-get install cups
[10:32] <poeticrpm> isnt cups already installed on Xubuntu?
[10:33] <poeticrpm> I just plugged my printer in and it was setup in about 30 seconds
[10:34] <cfhowlett> poeticrpm it's in the main repo - not sure if it's actually in the default install
[10:35] <poeticrpm> cfhowlett, hrrmmphh.. I could have swore it was
[10:35] <cfhowlett> poeticrpm if you have it but you didn't install it - it's in the default.
[10:36] <poeticrpm> cfhowlett, im on Arch atm, so I dont want to jump to conclusions :)
[10:36] <poeticrpm> youre prolly right
[10:37] <poeticrpm> but i cant remember the last time I had to install cups on any *buntu. Plug in the printer, wait 30 seconds, print. Unless they changed this recently?
[10:37] <cfhowlett> poeticrpm that's the way it was supposed to work ...
[10:38] <poeticrpm> cfhowlett, oh im sorry, you mean buntu downloads cups and configures it the first time? That would make sense I guess.
[10:39] <poeticrpm> it doesnt work that way on Arch. Jesus. Nothing worse than setting up a damn printer on Arch
[10:39] <poeticrpm> and then to have it break due to some change 3 months later and have to do it again. Anyways end off topic
[10:40] <cfhowlett> poeticrpm thus I run ONLY LTS versions ...
[10:41] <poeticrpm> cfhowlett, haha, yeah, LTS is cool for sure
[10:43] <STEVE1978> @cfhowlett : will try
[10:43] <cfhowlett> STEVE1978 current LTS is 14.04 - go forth and conquer!
[10:47] <STEVE1978> any good tutorials on learning the basic linux terminal commands?
[10:47] <STEVE1978> I am sooooo done with Windows!
[10:47] <cfhowlett> STEVE1978 http://www.linuxine.com/linuxbooks
[10:48] <STEVE1978> anything on youtube?
[10:48] <cfhowlett> STEVE1978 only a few million
[10:48] <poeticrpm> STEVE1978, https://wiki.archlinux.org/  <--- One of the best resources for linux
[10:48] <poeticrpm> i should clarify, for making things work/setting things up
[10:49] <poeticrpm> cfhowletts link is better for learning straight cli
[10:49] <knome> poeticrpm, except it's for arch, and some of the things aren't in par with what ubuntu has. so it might be suboptimal for new ubuntu users.
[10:52] <STEVE1978> LOL, thanks everyone
[10:52] <STEVE1978> Linux Roc ks!
[10:59] <poeticrpm> knome, yeah, ill give you that :)
[11:07] <STEVE1978> what's the fastest browser to use with Linux ( Flash Supported)
[11:09] <cfhowlett> !browser|STEVE1978
[11:12] <poeticrpm> STEVE1978, prolly chromium or chrome as much as I hate to say it
[11:12] <poeticrpm> I wish people cared more about ideals than speed, but thats just me.
[11:14] <STEVE1978> how do i install chrome?
[11:14] <STEVE1978> I am also an android user, so chrome would be good
[11:14] <cfhowlett> sudo apt-get install chromium
[11:14] <cfhowlett> !chromium
[11:14] <poeticrpm> makes no difference whether you use android
[11:15] <STEVE1978> is chromium the same as chrome?
[11:17] <STEVE1978> is chromium the same as chrome?
[11:19] <cro_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/6253/whats-the-difference-between-google-chrome-and-or-chromium-what-are-the-advant
[11:20] <STEVE1978> thanks cro
[11:20] <cro_> so, i guesse the answer is "yes" but ... :P
[11:22] <STEVE1978> any way of running coreldraw through wine instead of using virtualbox?
[11:24] <poeticrpm> do a google search for "wine appdb"
[11:24] <cfhowlett> !wine|STEVE1978
[13:16] <STEVE1978> How do I install Inkscape on Xubuntu?
[13:16] <cfhowlett> STEVE1978 sudo apt-get install inkscape
[13:18] <STEVE1978> good alternative to photoshop that can remove backgrounds?
[13:18] <cfhowlett> STEVE1978 gimp
[13:20] <STEVE1978> can i install skype on linux?
[13:20] <GridCube> !info skype
[13:20] <GridCube> !find skype
[13:20] <GridCube> not from the usc, probably from their own .deb tho
[13:21] <cfhowlett> STEVE1978 but of course!
[13:21] <cfhowlett> STEVE1978 search out skype for linux, download and install.
[13:24] <STEVE1978> You guys are awesome... thanks
[13:24] <STEVE1978> especially CFHOWLETT
[13:24] <cfhowlett> STEVE1978 happy2help
[13:24] <STEVE1978> how do you unistall a program that was installed through wine?
[13:25] <cfhowlett> STEVE1978 uninstall wine software
[13:29] <STEVE1978> Woohoo..loving Linux!
[13:29] <STEVE1978> should have made the move from Windows Years Ago!
[13:31] <cfhowlett> STEVE1978 www.fullcirclemagazine.org      for lots of fun ubuntu projects
[14:17] <STEVE1978> how do i move the panel to the bottom instead of the top of the screen...lik windows?
[14:17] <cfhowlett> STEVE1978 "move" panel?  just make a new one.
[14:18] <cfhowlett> STEVE1978 settings > settings manager > panel
[14:24] <GridCube> STEVE1978, go to the setting of the panel and unlock it, when unlocked you can drag it to the bottom of the screen by clicing on any of its corners
[14:24] <GridCube> no need to make a new one, tho you can do that too
[14:32] <STEVE1978> where can i see wifi networks on the pc?
[14:32] <STEVE1978> i have a usb dongle
[14:34] <STEVE1978> where do i find the Network Manager?
[14:42] <GridCube> in the panel, its the two arrows thing
[14:42] <GridCube> you can also launch the nm-connection-editor from a terminal
[14:59] <m1dnight_> hey guys, Is there a workaround for the suspend issue? (waking up from suspend goes to login and then to a black screen)
[15:00] <m1dnight_> I've tried nvidia drivers but they failed on me
[15:00] <m1dnight_> (one driver killed X, and the other didnt make a difference, so I'm on nouveau now)
[15:00] <m1dnight_> Turning off lock on wakeup fixes it
[15:00] <m1dnight_> but I'd like to maintain the lock
[15:00] <m1dnight_> Just hearing if there might be a workaround :) otherwise I'll live
[15:04] <GridCube> m1dnight_, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/1303736
[15:13] <m1dnight_> I know
[15:13] <m1dnight_> I've marked as being affected:)
[15:13] <m1dnight_> but perhaps one of the linux senseis knew a workaround
[15:27] <GridCube> theres no need for a workaround, there is a fix released
[15:32] <elfy> not released to trusty yet - still SRU
[15:33] <m1dnight_> It worked at some point, but then there was a system update and it stopped working again
[19:05] <xubuntu_> ITALY???
[19:06] <knome> xubuntu_, sorry?
[19:06] <xubuntu_> italy language????
[19:06] <knome> !it | xubuntu_
[19:31] <bgardner> ... "Why, thank you knome!" ... is what he meant to say.
[19:45] <ronaldsmazitis> somebody sees what I written in #facebook
[19:59] <holstein> ronaldsmazitis: imporoving screenlocking?
[20:05] <knome> holstein, yes, facebook is the secret gateway to make xubuntu developers work on whatever you say
[20:05] <knome> oops, now i let it slip
[20:08] <holstein> lol
[20:45] <ozbrkx> hi guys I know this make you angry but I decided to switvh back to windows. Because of the facebook and the other full of java codes based websited of couse they allways freezes and makes my all coumputer like hell.
[20:46] <ozbrkx> there is no hope to take full performance to my graphichs card (Ati Radeon HD 5800)
[20:47] <ozbrkx> because there is no such driver fot that the leatest driver which released by Ati is from 2006 or 2005 so it's posibbly six years old driver I suppose
[20:49] <ozbrkx> hang on a second it is not :/