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dholbachgood morning06:15
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dpmhi everyone15:04
dpmo/15:05
belkinsao/15:05
Ubuntu-Fanhello every one im just trying to see if this works15:05
rpadovanio/15:05
dpmbear with us, we're starting in a minute15:05
dbtmroHi :-)15:05
Ubuntu-Fan:D sure15:05
belkinsaI see you!15:07
Ubuntu-Fani cant wait :P this is my first time to watch a live stream15:07
mhall119welcome Ubuntu-Fan :)15:07
* balloons waves15:07
dholbachif you have any questions, let us know!15:08
josehey, Ubuntu-Fan! welcome to Ubuntu on Air! :)15:08
dholbachprefix them with QUESTION:15:08
rpadovanii see you too :D15:08
Ubuntu-Fanwooohooo :D15:08
dholbachask whatever question you have about Ubuntu15:08
Spartacursewhat was the topic this time again please?15:08
dholbachor whatever else you want to talk about15:08
belkinsaCommunity Team Q&A.15:08
mhall119Spartacurse: not specific topic, we're just here to answer your questions15:08
Ubuntu-Fanwhat about the ubuntu phone? is it gonna happen?15:09
SpartacurseAww shucks, was just going to ask about that. :)15:09
belkinsaPlease use QUESTION: Ubuntu-Fan15:09
balloonsUbuntu-Fan, remember to prefex with QUESTION: so it it's easier to see15:09
mhall119Ubuntu-Fan: yes! Do you wnt to know about it?15:09
Ubuntu-Fanok15:10
Ubuntu-FanI would love to know about it15:10
belkinsaI like that idea, dholbach.15:10
rpadovaniQUESTION: Lot of LoCo websites are based on Drupal. Canonical is releasing a framework to create themes similar the international one. Do you also plan to release a complete theme for Drupal?15:10
nik90that's a nice idea.15:11
Kaii_hi guys15:12
Kaii_Godd evening from here15:12
balloonshello all!15:12
belkinsao/ Kaii_15:12
ki7yyQUESTION: What is the status of systemd implementation?15:13
Ubuntu-FanThank you for answering my Question :)15:13
balloonshttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu-community-webthemes15:14
rpadovanihttp://design.ubuntu.com/web-style-guide15:14
rpadovanihttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu-web-style-guide15:14
balloonsohh.. interesting rpadovani15:14
dpmhttp://design.canonical.com/2014/06/making-ubuntu-com-responsive-our-sass-architecture/15:15
rpadovaniit's a SASS framework that themes some bases elements, like buttons, footer, links and so on15:15
ninjai am a ninja, i must be invisible :D15:16
SpartacurseQUESTION: I may be misunderstanding who's who here, but the valve/ubuntu thing that kickstarted last year with the Steam for Linux. How is the future looking there? My feeling is that the whole "linux will be the future of gaming" claims are fading out more and more looking at titles released on steam for linux. Are ubuntu still putting effort into gaming or is that on low prio now?15:16
rpadovaniok, thanks guys15:16
dholbachki7yy, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=systemd-boot15:16
ki7yymhall119: Thank you for the answer! dholbach Thank you for the link!15:17
ninjaSpartacurse: I am not an expert in this regard but I feel gaming is not given much priority by the community15:18
maokeispartacurse I don't think caninical has any big drift in gaming it's basically valve pushing the gaming front onto linux15:19
belkinsadholbach and mhall119 , nice room that you are in.15:19
rpadovaniahaha15:19
ki7yyI'm developing some ham radio apps for myself that will depend on systemd15:19
nik90dholbach: ^^15:19
marshallhello all15:19
mhall119hello marshall15:19
belkinsaRemember that there is a delay between video and IRC.15:20
dholbachki7yy, ah ok... good to hear - I was just interested to hear which features people are waiting for :)15:20
ki7yydholbach: our local ham radio club is developing an HSMM mesh network. I'm trying to make mine autostart in systemd with required services. Working well on Archlinux but I want to deploy it on Ubuntu15:20
dholbachawesome15:21
ki7yy:D15:21
dholbachis it going to be hard to get this specific autostarting right? does it work with upstart and old sysvinit already?15:21
dholbachthanks belkinsa - it's a coworking space I'm in15:22
Binary-fuelI am being more advance with the department of networking. Is there any thing thing that could use a networker in the attempt to further development abuntu?15:22
ki7yyI haven't even tried. Seeing systemd is the future I'm just coding for it15:22
dholbachBinary-fuel, networking in which sense? what would you like to do?15:22
ninjabelkinsa: video? which video?15:22
dholbachki7yy, ah I see15:22
dholbachninja, http://ubuntuonair.com15:22
belkinsaQUESTION: Will the Evernote Client for Ubuntu have the full features (such as hand-written notes, voice notes, ect.) as the Windows/Web Client?15:23
ninjathankx dholbach15:23
Binary-fuelWell designing basic protocols is pretty much where I am heading. But in general sense I am a open book. I want to aid in the advance of abuntu so in a networking sense what is abuntu development jobs needing?15:24
Ubuntu-FanQUESTION: i recently started studying software engineering, and i'm still ignorant in all of the developing of ubuntu, but i really love ubuntu and the way its free and open source, and i really want to contribute to it, with my mind but i dont know how can i support ubuntu.. any ideas?15:24
belkinsaBinary-fuel, is this a question for them?  If so, please use QUESTION:15:24
nakanutQUESTION: On the Ubuntu phone/tablet, how readily available is the released memory from closed apps?  And have there been instances in development where the memory has been accessible?15:25
dholbachBinary-fuel, you could ask on ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.c om15:25
mhall119nakanut: what do you mean by "memory"?15:25
mhall119RAM?15:25
nakanutyes, sorry15:25
belkinsaUbuntu-Fan, you don't need to be a developer to get involved!  Look at community.ubuntu.com for help.15:25
mhall119or local files?15:25
belkinsahelp = ideas, Ubuntu-Fan, in this case.15:26
SpartacurseThose are reassuring replies. I want to be able to migrate to linux completely and gaming is the biggest reason for me not to take that leap. Maybe I am expecting too much too soon? :) Thank you for your answers.15:26
Ubuntu-Fan@belkinsa ill do my best :)15:27
Kaii_hello just recently upgrade to version 14.04 and experiencing frequenlty freezing of my gui. how could i trace its cause?15:27
belkinsaI understand Ubuntu-Fan.15:27
* belkinsa is not a developer herself15:27
mhall119Spartacurse: it's the old 80/20 rule, 80% of the work takes 20% of the time, I think Steam is now into the last 20% of the work, which will take the other 80% of the time :)15:27
Zero-x101Question, I have been deciding to go linux for my web server and I just wanted to know how secure is abuntu server, like in sense of a hackers point of view. Will I expect to have security issues when dealing with transactions?15:27
justCarakasQUESTION will the background in the app be customizable again ? it used to be before 14.04 but now that setting doesn't work and the white origami background stays15:28
justCarakason the phone I mean15:28
dholbachUbuntu-Fan, check out http://community.ubuntu.com15:29
belkinsaUbuntu-Fan,: http://loco.ubuntu.com/ For Local COmmunities15:30
ki7yyUbuntu can be made as secure as any other distro15:32
Ubuntu-FanThank you so much guys :D im so excited to start contributing :D, and ill work hard to give my best to ubuntu :D  thank you guys, you rock woohoo15:33
belkinsaNot a problem.15:33
belkinsaMaybe Ubuntu does need the Recruiting team.  :)15:33
belkinsaOr comms or promo if those are better names15:33
ki7yyexcellent popey15:34
popeyki7yy: thanks15:34
dholbachhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Specifications/ApplicationConfinement/ might be interesting as well15:34
justCarakasQUESTION does state saver also work for HTML5 apps ?15:34
nakanut@dholbach thx for the link15:36
Zero-x101I was installing a linux abuntu server a week ago and i'm new to some commands. The document I downloaded from the correct website had giving me the most updated manual out there. With the correct environment created for some code to work, most of the code contain sudo dose not exists or other main commands which stated the same. I have installed alot of packages but still nothing, Is there a place where errors in the docu15:37
* belkinsa really likes the idea of doing a Community Q&A in this style with different guests every week15:38
dholbachhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_adopters15:39
nik90belkinsa: +115:39
* Spartacurse thinks Blizzard should fall in love with linux, and specifially ubuntu. 15:39
dholbach:-)15:40
SpartacurseKinda annoyed with all the workarounds for their games. It works since 13.xx but would love some native versions.15:40
Zero-x101Well yes but I think linux needs a distro that makes developing game easy for them. I have tried to get grand theft over to linux but it became complex within the engine its self due to the delivery system linux uses to communicate with hardware. That the drivers, wish there was supported drivers as well.15:41
alfa_hi there15:41
Na3iLhey alfa_15:41
popeyhi15:41
dholbachany more questions? keep them coming15:41
justCarakaswould be nice if it is posible15:41
mhall119Zero-x101: if you can run your server in a cloud that has juju support it would make it much easier, the charms install services in an optimal way with no intervention needed from you15:42
belkinsaI see the screen!15:42
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belkinsaThanks for the demo dpm.15:43
dholbach:)15:43
mhall119dholbach: troll15:44
SpartacurseQUESTION: What would be the smartest/quickest way to get involved as a dev for ubuntu phone apps? Is learning HTML5 enough or would one need more, if so, what?15:44
dholbachmhall119, SCNR15:44
belkinsadpm do you use x-chat?15:44
popeylooks like it15:44
Sboss /quit15:46
Zero-x101I was thinking of making a cloud bank with beta tests of linux programs but linux and my cloud ability haven't mixed in together yet. I have a little bit of command lines to work through with concepts and how to correctly use it. But I will love some information with linux and network clouding abuntu server together tho15:46
dholbachany more questions?15:47
marshallsupport for hardware seems like a major issue, not just about GPUs but even my printer doesn't work well :(15:47
dholbachmarshall, did you file a bug report for it?15:48
belkinsaEvernote Developer Sandbox Sever, not Evernote.15:48
marshallhow do I do that?15:48
dholbachprinters and GPUs have been working great for me in the last 7-8 years all the time15:48
balloonsif you want to use the emulator, check out dpm's guide: http://developer.ubuntu.com/apps/sdk/tutorials/using-the-ubuntu-emulator/ http://davidplanella.org/ubuntu-emulator-quickstart-guide/15:49
dholbachmarshall, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs15:49
mhall119http://developer.ubuntu.com/apps/15:50
belkinsaQUESTION: The Reminders app uses the Evernote Developer Sandbox not the Evernote sever that Evernote uses, when will it move to the Evernote sever?  When the first release comes?15:50
balloonsapp dev community https://plus.google.com/communities/11135078027092554054915:51
marshallAll right. perhaps why I didn't consider filing a bug earlier is because I saw on the Internet several people having the same problem with same printer15:51
SpartacurseCheers!15:51
marshallmay be its specific to that printer, coz my old printer worked fine15:51
balloonsmarshall, if the printer does things it's own way, and the vendor doesn't support linux in some way it gets hard15:52
balloonsa printer that supports standards generally should just work15:53
belkinsa\o/ because I have two accounts, the sandbox and the normal one that I use more than the sandbox15:53
chris1992hp is the best way to go since they officially support linux15:53
dholbachwhich printer is it?15:53
marshallthats the major problem, I don't understand why vendors don't support Linux15:53
dholbacha question on askubuntu.com should be able to help as well15:53
Zero-x101QUESTION,  what would be a good skill/certificate be to learn so I may contribute my time to the development of ubuntu server?15:53
marshallCanon LBP2900B15:53
Kaii_QUESTION hello just recently upgrade to version 14.04 and experiencing frequenlty freezing of my gui. how could i trace its cause?15:54
dholbachKaii_, try asking on askubuntu.com as well15:55
Zero-x101marshall the main reason why a lot of vendors don't support linux is a lot of reason 1) Being low market level and 2) The cost to code and support their product to work with linux. It is mainly the market they care about tho15:55
balloonsKaii_, if there is a crash; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash15:55
Kaii_thanks15:56
belkinsaMaybe we can get a sever guy next time?15:56
belkinsa(not a question for them, just an idea)15:56
balloonsKaii_, otherwise try different drivers for your graphics card, check things out in a guest session or boot from the live cd and see if the problem still happens. If it doesn't you have something on your account that is causing the issue15:56
dpmKaii_, yes, we don't tend to answer tech support questions here, as the forums and askubuntu are more suited for that15:57
dholbachgrrrrrrrrr, network :-(15:57
marshallthats disappointing. I really like Linux and promote it where ever I can but I am really disappointed to see that people don't use it15:57
dholbachZero-x101, I'd suggest to get started with a package or piece of software you know well15:57
dholbachtake a bug report that looks easy to fix to you and get started with that15:57
dholbacheven if it's just a small typo fix or something15:58
balloonsZero-x101, packages you care about as well :-)15:58
ki7yydholbach: is back!15:58
josecloud.ubuntu.com and juju.ubuntu.com, #juju on irc.freenode.net15:58
dholbachthen get somebody from the server team to help you15:58
belkinsacloud.ubuntu.com and juju.ubuntu.com15:58
Kaii_thanks guys15:59
Zero-x101Thanks for the information and links15:59
belkinsaThanks for this!15:59
dholbachrock on everyone :-)15:59
SpartacurseThank you for your time, answers and hard work.16:00
chris1992saying hello from fedora  :)16:00
AlvaroThanks!16:00
mhall119ignore the children in the background16:00
balloonsthanks guys!16:00
nik90thnx for the session16:01
Zero-x101I will try to gain my knowledge in abuntu server So I may add answers and not just ask questions so next time is good.16:01
marshallthanks to all for their answers16:07
nRgyHello :D16:23
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