| MooDoo | hello all | 05:40 |
|---|---|---|
| Myrtti | foobarry: for what it's worth, an ex-Ubuntuite did have (don't know if she still does) a Sonata | 08:00 |
| === stryx`_ is now known as stryx` | ||
| === chrisccoulson_ is now known as chrisccoulson | ||
| bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 09:29 |
| popey | yo | 09:31 |
| * popey is enjoying a clean install | 09:31 | |
| bigcalm | Gave up trying to add full disk encryption to a 2nd drive? | 09:32 |
| MooDoo | bigcalm: he sorted it | 09:32 |
| bigcalm | Oh | 09:32 |
| bigcalm | By doing a clean install? ;) | 09:32 |
| MooDoo | I found a url that explained how to do it | 09:32 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 09:34 |
| popey | brobostigon: no, i did it | 09:38 |
| brobostigon | huh? | 09:39 |
| popey | er bigcalm | 09:39 |
| popey | nvm | 09:39 |
| popey | alan@deep-thought:~⟫ df -h | grep map | 09:40 |
| popey | /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root 205G 5.3G 189G 3% / | 09:40 |
| popey | /dev/mapper/data_crypt 235G 87G 136G 40% /home | 09:40 |
| popey | \o/ | 09:40 |
| bigcalm | Well done | 09:40 |
| popey | very happy | 09:41 |
| popey | re-installing everything bit by bit | 09:41 |
| brobostigon | are the stats still working fine?, i havent managed to check on them recently. | 09:44 |
| bigcalm | popey: this will have dire consequences for your uptime ;) | 09:46 |
| Myrtti | I'm still pondering would it be safe to nuke the current install on this laptop and install 14.04 on my own | 09:47 |
| Myrtti | apparently the new kernel might support the touchpad without much problems | 09:47 |
| popey | brobostigon: can you not just click the link? | 09:48 |
| popey | bigcalm: actually I'm hoping it will improve it, as I wont have to reboot all the time | 09:48 |
| popey | hoping this reinstall magically cures things | 09:48 |
| brobostigon | popey: i will, i was just curious also if anybody has used it, within my question. | 09:48 |
| bigcalm | Looking at uprecords, seem that I have my machine on for about 15.5 hours each day | 09:48 |
| popey | %up 100.000 | since Tue Jun 17 10:03:18 2014 | 09:48 |
| bigcalm | popey: ah, magic | 09:48 |
| popey | \o/ | 09:48 |
| bigcalm | Heh | 09:49 |
| bigcalm | Ex-cow-orker has sent me his HP Proliant microserver that is slightly (few years) more recent than my own. Wonder if I can pop the disks out of mine and put them into the new one and have things just work | 09:51 |
| popey | lucky you! | 09:51 |
| popey | I'm still rocking the old N36L | 09:51 |
| directhex | I HAVE A BIG FLUFFY CAT ON MY DESK | 09:51 |
| popey | could do with an update | 09:52 |
| Myrtti | put a bow on it. | 09:52 |
| bigcalm | Update the cat with a bow tie? | 09:52 |
| Myrtti | yup | 09:52 |
| bigcalm | :) | 09:53 |
| bigcalm | popey: I'm thinking of replacing my parents' revo with my now spare proliant | 09:53 |
| Myrtti | http://www.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/guinea-pig-booboo-lieveheersbeestje-23.jpg | 09:53 |
| awilkins | Bah, was hoping that was a great recipe for South African style guinea-pig biltong | 09:56 |
| bashrc | directhex: is that a codephrase? | 10:11 |
| directhex | YES. IT MEANS I HAVE A BIG FLUFFY CAT ON MY DESK | 10:13 |
| directhex | UNBREAKABLE CODE | 10:13 |
| popey | hmm, can't install google talk plugin here | 10:14 |
| popey | this is annoying | 10:14 |
| popey | the deb installs but chrome doesn't see it | 10:14 |
| popey | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 35 Jun 7 23:48 /opt/google/chrome/pepper/libppgoogletalk.so -> ../../talkplugin/libppgoogletalk.so | 10:14 |
| popey | exists though | 10:14 |
| bigcalm | Chrome or chromium? | 10:15 |
| bigcalm | Works for me with chromium | 10:15 |
| popey | i _always_ type chrome when I mean chrome, and chromium when I mean chromium ☻ | 10:16 |
| popey | i dont have chromium installed. | 10:17 |
| bigcalm | Just checking | 10:18 |
| davmor2 | popey: Ohhhhh new shinies have a look at contacts, dialer and messaging | 10:22 |
| popey | ooh! | 10:26 |
| awilkins | Contacts dialler and messaging for Ubuntu Phone? | 10:26 |
| popey | yes | 10:27 |
| popey | ffs, broken in chrome and chrome-beta | 10:29 |
| bashrc | does it have OTR? | 10:30 |
| popey | eh? | 10:30 |
| awilkins | Off The Record | 10:30 |
| awilkins | ? | 10:30 |
| popey | no, "it" | 10:31 |
| bashrc | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Off-the-Record_Messaging | 10:31 |
| Myrtti | which it? | 10:31 |
| bashrc | messaging for ubuntu phone | 10:32 |
| popey | its SMS, not messengering app | 10:32 |
| bashrc | ah | 10:32 |
| popey | \o/ working in chrome-unstable | 10:39 |
| popey | well thats 30 mins of my life I'll never get back. jeez | 10:39 |
| dwatkins | I think it's time I took the plunge and got an SSD for my main machine at home | 10:51 |
| bigcalm | SSD all the things | 10:53 |
| dwatkins | indeed, bigcalm | 10:53 |
| popey | \o/ SSD | 10:54 |
| popey | i was tempted to RAID0 the two SSDs in my laptop, but figured that might be overkill ☻ | 10:54 |
| dwatkins | Crucial drives seem to be on offer on Amazon, is there any reason I should avoid them? | 10:54 |
| funkyHat | Super Silly Disk | 10:54 |
| popey | they have had a bad reputation in the past | 10:55 |
| funkyHat | Seriously Spurious Data | 10:55 |
| dwatkins | A colleague of mine put SSDs in a RAID array when they first came out, the drives lasted 9 months of constant reading and writing. | 10:55 |
| popey | Super Speedy Data-transfer | 10:55 |
| dwatkins | Crucial get good reviews. | 10:55 |
| directhex | the M4 series of crucial drives had a bad firmware | 10:55 |
| dwatkins | M500 is what I'm looking at (960 GB) | 10:56 |
| popey | i have an M4 in my laptop ⍨ | 10:56 |
| dwatkins | http://www.amazon.co.uk/Crucial-CT960M500SSD1-960GB-Internal-Solid/dp/B00BQ8RGL6/ | 10:56 |
| popey | Device Model: OCZ-VERTEX3 | 10:56 |
| popey | Device Model: M4-CT256M4SSD3 | 10:56 |
| Laney | hrm | 10:56 |
| Laney | looks like bigger SSDs are becoming affordable | 10:57 |
| dwatkins | indeed, Laney | 10:57 |
| funkyHat | Somewhat Sarcastic Description | 10:57 |
| popey | heh, never noticed "Rotation Rate: Solid State Device" | 10:57 |
| Laney | that's nice | 10:57 |
| Laney | I had yet another ENOSPC yesterday | 10:57 |
| directhex | M4 is fixed by recent firmware | 10:58 |
| directhex | OCZ never really fixed the firmware on drives before vertex 4 | 10:58 |
| popey | nice, smartmontools tells me where to get it! | 10:58 |
| Laney | "pop down to your local argos" | 10:58 |
| dwatkins | well, we shall see how it performs, SSD ordered | 10:58 |
| popey | http://paste.ubuntu.com/7657848/ | 10:59 |
| popey | cock, needs windows | 10:59 |
| popey | no updates for me then | 11:00 |
| MooDoo | 5184 hours lol | 11:00 |
| mgdm | Rotation rate: ∞ | 11:01 |
| popey | ooh, can be done on a usb stick | 11:01 |
| MooDoo | so as long as you reboot ever 215 days, you'll be ok :) | 11:01 |
| dwatkins | not even a DOS installer... oh cool | 11:01 |
| funkyHat | I should get a Solid Stake Disk for my PC really | 11:04 |
| funkyHat | Still wouldn't be as fast as the laptop though ⢁( | 11:05 |
| popey | fancy that, their firmware thing uses isolinux | 11:05 |
| popey | thanks for the tip directhex, will do that later when i next reboot | 11:07 |
| directhex | the m4 bug is once it hits 5200 hours of uptime (iirc), the drive restarts instead of incrementing to 5201, every time | 11:08 |
| directhex | sorry, google says it's 5184 hours | 11:08 |
| bigcalm | popey: do you remember what that one liner was to generate an epenis measurement? | 11:38 |
| popey | I have no idea what you're talking about ☻ | 11:42 |
| bigcalm | :| | 11:42 |
| bigcalm | Bother. Can't google the irc logs well enough | 11:45 |
| bigcalm | Just wanted to measure the performance between current proliant and the one I'm about to replace it with | 11:46 |
| bigcalm | bogomips: 6784.93 | 11:46 |
| bigcalm | That'll have to do | 11:46 |
| Myrtti | aw | 11:47 |
| Myrtti | just when I found the script he meant | 11:47 |
| Laney | link? | 11:48 |
| Myrtti | http://ham.zmailer.org/oh2mqk/vpenis.pl I think | 11:49 |
| Laney | 36.1cm :( | 11:51 |
| Laney | grrrrifferzzzzzzz | 11:51 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch | ||
| foobarry | got a quote for my extension = £28.5k :( | 12:00 |
| foobarry | how realistic is the first quote from a builder? | 12:00 |
| diplo | foobarry, I'd say you need at least 2, maybe 3 quotes to get a general idea | 12:02 |
| diplo | I know a couple of builders, they rarely rebid if someone comes in cheaper as business is tight they go in at their best first time | 12:02 |
| diplo | To try and win the job | 12:03 |
| diplo | If you get a ovepriced quote ( this is what my builder does ) is because they don't want the work and make it more expensive, if someone still wants it done theyre quids in, if not they didn't want it in the first place :) | 12:03 |
| awilkins | They can probably subcontract it to someone else too if they overprice it and genuinely can't do the work because of load. | 12:10 |
| awilkins | I'm sure they all know each others rates and scratch each others backs | 12:11 |
| diplo | czajkowski, Just saw your tweet, don't you have issues with seeing the screen | 12:11 |
| diplo | I keep debating moving outside | 12:11 |
| awilkins | Just had a lovely repeatable Xorg crash from using rdesktop | 12:11 |
| diplo | Not so sure, my neighbour reckons it's free for all | 12:11 |
| diplo | Fell out with some of his friends over pricing | 12:12 |
| awilkins | But I'm stuck behind a firewall and don't think apport uploaded it | 12:12 |
| awilkins | Have changed to Remmina for the time being since I need to do the thing that provoked the crash again | 12:12 |
| awilkins | But I dislike Remmina since it's not as flexible as rdesktop for my needs (even if rdesktop is now obsolescent because it doesn't do NLA) | 12:13 |
| czajkowski | diplo: nope cna see it just fine | 12:13 |
| diplo | Hmm, may drag my lappy out later and give it a go | 12:14 |
| czajkowski | current work set up :) https://twitter.com/czajkowski/status/478871378935177216/photo/1 | 12:14 |
| czajkowski | nice to get fresh air and some sunshine | 12:14 |
| popey | 633.1cm | 12:17 |
| bigcalm | bogomips: 4392.76 | 12:34 |
| bigcalm | Haha | 12:34 |
| bigcalm | It's gone down | 12:34 |
| bigcalm | More RAM though | 12:34 |
| bigcalm | Might be an on-demand thing | 12:34 |
| * bigcalm goes to lunch | 12:34 | |
| bigcalm | System survived moving the 4 HDDs from one machine to the other | 12:35 |
| awilkins | bogomips are vulnerable to CPU scaling, no? | 12:35 |
| bigcalm | Except that eth0 moved to eth1 | 12:35 |
| bigcalm | That confused me for a while | 12:35 |
| bigcalm | awilkins: indeed | 12:35 |
| dwatkins | I remember having to find out how to tie an ethX number to a specific MAC address many years ago. | 12:36 |
| Myrtti | bigcalm: right when you left I was about to paste this to you: http://ham.zmailer.org/oh2mqk/vpenis.pl | 12:36 |
| === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g | ||
| * awilkins has a mere 316.1cm | 12:48 | |
| dwatkins | Four foot eight and a quarter. | 12:52 |
| bigcalm | Myrtti: that's the one, thanks :) | 13:09 |
| bigcalm | Bit more than a one liner then :) | 13:10 |
| TwistedLucidity | Unfortunate link. | 13:14 |
| foobarry | directhex: still use your touhcpad? | 13:21 |
| directhex | foobarry, sold it a while ago | 13:22 |
| foobarry | :P | 13:23 |
| foobarry | trying to use the tptoolbox that removes webos | 13:23 |
| daftykins | foobarry: ##cyanogenmod-touchpad | 13:28 |
| daftykins | i own one too | 13:28 |
| daftykins | oops, single # | 13:29 |
| foobarry | thanks, i was in the wrong chan | 13:29 |
| daftykins | it's pretty idle but the main guys are around at times | 13:29 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea | ||
| === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g | ||
| NET||abuse | boy oh boy, i'm somewhat upset that sublime text is just not moving anywhere. i said i would give it till june, welll, it's here now | 15:14 |
| NET||abuse | I see more adn more plugins putting "holding development until sublime's abondonware status is resolved" notices on their github pages | 15:14 |
| dwatkins | there's always Brackets | 15:15 |
| NET||abuse | I think i'll still use sublime, until i find something better, but i would also like to identify an alternative | 15:15 |
| NET||abuse | Brackets... hmmm | 15:15 |
| dwatkins | http://brackets.io/ | 15:15 |
| directhex | edlin | 15:16 |
| mgdm | ed | 15:17 |
| directhex | edd the duck | 15:18 |
| mgdm | ed is the standard editor. what more reason do you need? http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed-msg.html | 15:18 |
| mgdm | though linking to anything in 'fun' on gnu.org makes me wonder slightly :-) | 15:18 |
| bigcalm | That's depressing | 15:27 |
| === Laney is now known as mrage | ||
| === mrage is now known as Laney | ||
| foobarry | anyone ever used claycrete? | 15:32 |
| foobarry | instant papier mache | 15:32 |
| foobarry | a bit like smash mash | 15:32 |
| bigcalm | o.O | 15:34 |
| NET||abuse | hmm, Atom and Brackets seems to be the two choices out there. | 15:51 |
| popey | sublime is abandoned? | 15:52 |
| NET||abuse | popey: well,, we dont know for sure, | 15:55 |
| NET||abuse | last beta release for ST3 is Dec 2013, last ST2 is over a year now. | 15:55 |
| NET||abuse | last communication from jon is Dec 2013, last communication from his sales guy is march | 15:55 |
| NET||abuse | they said it isn't over,, but they've not done anything in so long, most plugin dev's are walking away until some kind of update is forthcoming | 15:56 |
| NET||abuse | there is also limetext, | 15:58 |
| MartijnVdS | I have vim with "vim-airline" these days | 15:59 |
| NET||abuse | a straight golang clone of sublime, but not feature complete by the sounds of it. | 15:59 |
| MartijnVdS | https://github.com/bling/vim-airline | 15:59 |
| bigcalm | Security Deposit Charging Incorrectly | 16:17 |
| bigcalm | Humm, bad middle mouse button, bad | 16:17 |
| bigcalm | Actually, I think there's something wrong with pasting into Chromium | 16:17 |
| bigcalm | A tab will freeze up if I try to paste into an input box. But this appears to happen inconsistently | 16:18 |
| NET||abuse | that is mental, i've never managed to get a grip on the vim plugin managers | 16:32 |
| NET||abuse | ^^ refering to vim-airline | 16:32 |
| === map is now known as Guest47688 | ||
| bigcalm | A thing of beauty http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/IMG_1481-Version-2-980x517.jpg | 16:42 |
| DJones | Nice storagae box for your spare parts :) | 16:49 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD | ||
| === PaulW2U is now known as G4MBY | ||
| diddledan | morning | 18:39 |
| diddledan | https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/vocore-a-coin-sized-linux-computer-with-wifi | 18:39 |
| daftykins | ali1234: remember that red Sony laptop motherboard with the blown MOSFET I showed you? | 18:39 |
| ali1234 | sure | 18:39 |
| daftykins | diddledan hey, you may remember it too | 18:39 |
| diddledan | yup | 18:40 |
| daftykins | so i got the board back today, £35 charge to do the solder job | 18:40 |
| daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/s/gewunyzpgintm95/IMG-20140617-WA0001.jpg | 18:40 |
| daftykins | :D | 18:40 |
| daftykins | she lives \o/ | 18:40 |
| diddledan | ooh, windows. awesome! | 18:40 |
| diddledan | :-p | 18:40 |
| daftykins | i even managed to glue the built-in speaker connections as i had accidentally broken them on doing the disassemble | 18:40 |
| daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/s/awbs5f5re7b5nbf/IMG_20140617_180723.jpg | 18:41 |
| daftykins | they are so tiny >_< | 18:41 |
| ali1234 | so did they do a good job for £35? | 18:41 |
| diddledan | nice | 18:41 |
| daftykins | yeah, the new MOSFET was perfectly laid out | 18:41 |
| daftykins | i had a quick glance before i paid for it | 18:42 |
| daftykins | it seems the mouse buttons aren't working on the palmrest right now, but other than that the whole machine is back solid... i even stress tested it | 18:43 |
| daftykins | in fact, i first booted ubuntu 14.04 but i couldn't find the package cpuburn anymore... perhaps the live session just doesn't have universe enabled | 18:43 |
| ali1234 | for £35 not including any shipping or parts you should absolutely expect it to look like new | 18:43 |
| daftykins | yeah it was a pretty steep quote really | 18:43 |
| daftykins | but i didn't have many options | 18:44 |
| ali1234 | £35 is reasonable if they do a proper rework job | 18:44 |
| ali1234 | but they'd better actually do that for that price :) | 18:44 |
| daftykins | they had it easy, as i took the board in already disassembled | 18:45 |
| daftykins | in fact i have a shot of what i took in | 18:45 |
| ali1234 | yeah seen it | 18:45 |
| daftykins | oh this one? https://www.dropbox.com/s/s1cvcal0tjkfpor/IMG_20140609_154414.jpg | 18:45 |
| daftykins | i made it quite obvious which bit was busted ;) | 18:45 |
| ali1234 | this guy does repair videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZlc6tiL1gk | 18:46 |
| ali1234 | given the size of the part i'd expect them to do as good a job as that for the price | 18:47 |
| diddledan | ali1234: that shipping package is evil | 18:48 |
| daftykins | haha | 18:51 |
| shauno | hah, that's pretty bad | 18:51 |
| shauno | and pretty much the opposite of what I'm getting used to - they seem to send me everything in esd bags, whether it needs it or not | 18:51 |
| jussi | sigh.... | 18:51 |
| jussi | it didnt work, and its all my fault :( | 18:52 |
| jussi | serves me right for attempting to repair hardware... | 18:53 |
| daftykins | jussi: what've you been dealing with? | 18:54 |
| daftykins | this video is interesting, i had no idea this kinda gear is used | 18:55 |
| jussi | daftykins: I tried to replace the glass on my note 2. accidentally cut the ribbon cable | 18:55 |
| diddledan | daftykins: that gear is totally OTT for that kind of chip | 18:55 |
| diddledan | daftykins: really that kind of gear is for BGAs | 18:55 |
| ali1234 | daftykins: his amiga repair videos are good too | 18:56 |
| diddledan | it does make removing a chip nice and easy tho | 18:57 |
| daftykins | diddledan: ah reflowing gear | 19:00 |
| daftykins | ? | 19:00 |
| daftykins | i don't even have a clue what flux is | 19:00 |
| daftykins | nor why he applied it prior to removing the old chip | 19:00 |
| jussi | daftykins: so the phone works, everything is perfect, except the bottom 3rd of the screen is non responsive :( | 19:00 |
| diddledan | applying flux before soldering the chip onto the board will cause the solder to not bridge as easily with nearby solder - i.e. it'll only apply to each pin and it's pad | 19:01 |
| ali1234 | yeah cos he's going to drag solder it. without flux it would just solder every pin together into a huge blog | 19:02 |
| daftykins | jussi: :( is it expensive to get another? | 19:03 |
| jussi | daftykins: means I nees to replace whole screen... about 140€ | 19:03 |
| diddledan | wow, he repairing a TV?! | 19:07 |
| diddledan | I missed the viera mentino in the title | 19:07 |
| daftykins | that vid was neat :) glad he showed the result | 19:11 |
| daftykins | jussi: :( | 19:12 |
| daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/s/cxep07nl4dsn6e9/battery.png | 19:16 |
| daftykins | love my laptop :) | 19:17 |
| diddledan | wow | 19:17 |
| popey | "Cool stuff but Unity doesn't look professional or attractive to businesses in my opinion. | 19:29 |
| popey | They could sell it better and shorten the training a bit if they focused on something like XFCE or any other desktop environment that is productivity oriented." | 19:29 |
| popey | lol. | 19:29 |
| daftykins | hehe | 19:33 |
| ali1234 | yeah, very true | 19:33 |
| d3ngar | Hi, I'm experiencing problems with my Amazon EC2 instance. After updating it's no longer booting up. | 19:57 |
| d3ngar | The server log points to this: xc_dom_probe_bzimage_kernel: kernel is not a bzImage | 19:57 |
| d3ngar | Googling this brought up some results, but I do not understand them | 19:57 |
| diddledan | d3ngar: that's more an amazon question than an ubuntu one - but I believe you can specify the kernel to use in the admin console | 20:04 |
| diddledan | WHEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeee | 20:21 |
| diddledan | don't you love when canonical employees do webcasts about ubuntu tech, but they're running OS X? | 20:22 |
| diddledan | I'm watching this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJPdH8xmOWg | 20:22 |
| diddledan | in, out, in, out, shake those users all about | 20:55 |
| popey | diddledan: meh, works both ways. I met a guy from Red Hat who ran Ubuntu on his laptop ☻ | 20:57 |
| diddledan | popey: lol | 20:58 |
| diddledan | popey: luckily I was only trollin' :-p | 20:58 |
| popey | ☻ | 20:58 |
| popey | i know a few canonical people run osx | 20:58 |
| popey | mainly because they like nice hardware and osx works really nicely on apple kit | 20:59 |
| popey | most run ubuntu in vmware or parallels | 20:59 |
| diddledan | popey: obviously canonical is a company with varied users and varied projects besides the os so it makes sense that there's a variety of systems in use | 20:59 |
| popey | well, also, a major factor is people buy their own kit | 20:59 |
| diddledan | aah | 20:59 |
| popey | the company doesn't provide machines, so people buy whatever they want and support themselves | 20:59 |
| diddledan | that makes sense | 21:00 |
| diddledan | I like the concept of BYOD | 21:00 |
| popey | yeah | 21:00 |
| popey | although you look around at a canonical sprint and you see many of the same machines | 21:01 |
| diddledan | I've seen reports that most linuxy events have a large percentage of apple gear represented | 21:01 |
| diddledan | it's well built equipment | 21:02 |
| diddledan | persoanally I run an apple laptop, too | 21:02 |
| diddledan | http://www.imdb.com/rg/s/3/title/tt1109624/?ref_=ext_shr_fb_vi#lb-vi3550981145 <-- paddington | 21:07 |
| psichas | sveiki | 21:36 |
| daftykins | ? | 21:38 |
| psichas | srry | 21:39 |
| diddledan | http://grahamcluley.com/2014/06/truecrypt-hidden-message/ | 21:53 |
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