[05:40] hello all [08:00] foobarry: for what it's worth, an ex-Ubuntuite did have (don't know if she still does) a Sonata === stryx`_ is now known as stryx` === chrisccoulson_ is now known as chrisccoulson [09:29] Good morning peeps :) [09:31] yo [09:31] * popey is enjoying a clean install [09:32] Gave up trying to add full disk encryption to a 2nd drive? [09:32] bigcalm: he sorted it [09:32] Oh [09:32] By doing a clean install? ;) [09:32] I found a url that explained how to do it [09:34] morning boys and girls. [09:38] brobostigon: no, i did it [09:39] huh? [09:39] er bigcalm [09:39] nvm [09:40] alan@deep-thought:~⟫ df -h | grep map [09:40] /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root 205G 5.3G 189G 3% / [09:40] /dev/mapper/data_crypt 235G 87G 136G 40% /home [09:40] \o/ [09:40] Well done [09:41] very happy [09:41] re-installing everything bit by bit [09:44] are the stats still working fine?, i havent managed to check on them recently. [09:46] popey: this will have dire consequences for your uptime ;) [09:47] I'm still pondering would it be safe to nuke the current install on this laptop and install 14.04 on my own [09:47] apparently the new kernel might support the touchpad without much problems [09:48] brobostigon: can you not just click the link? [09:48] bigcalm: actually I'm hoping it will improve it, as I wont have to reboot all the time [09:48] hoping this reinstall magically cures things [09:48] popey: i will, i was just curious also if anybody has used it, within my question. [09:48] Looking at uprecords, seem that I have my machine on for about 15.5 hours each day [09:48] %up 100.000 | since Tue Jun 17 10:03:18 2014 [09:48] popey: ah, magic [09:48] \o/ [09:49] Heh [09:51] Ex-cow-orker has sent me his HP Proliant microserver that is slightly (few years) more recent than my own. Wonder if I can pop the disks out of mine and put them into the new one and have things just work [09:51] lucky you! [09:51] I'm still rocking the old N36L [09:51] I HAVE A BIG FLUFFY CAT ON MY DESK [09:52] could do with an update [09:52] put a bow on it. [09:52] Update the cat with a bow tie? [09:52] yup [09:53] :) [09:53] popey: I'm thinking of replacing my parents' revo with my now spare proliant [09:53] http://www.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/guinea-pig-booboo-lieveheersbeestje-23.jpg [09:56] Bah, was hoping that was a great recipe for South African style guinea-pig biltong [10:11] directhex: is that a codephrase? [10:13] YES. IT MEANS I HAVE A BIG FLUFFY CAT ON MY DESK [10:13] UNBREAKABLE CODE [10:14] hmm, can't install google talk plugin here [10:14] this is annoying [10:14] the deb installs but chrome doesn't see it [10:14] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 35 Jun 7 23:48 /opt/google/chrome/pepper/libppgoogletalk.so -> ../../talkplugin/libppgoogletalk.so [10:14] exists though [10:15] Chrome or chromium? [10:15] Works for me with chromium [10:16] i _always_ type chrome when I mean chrome, and chromium when I mean chromium ☻ [10:17] i dont have chromium installed. [10:18] Just checking [10:22] popey: Ohhhhh new shinies have a look at contacts, dialer and messaging [10:26] ooh! [10:26] Contacts dialler and messaging for Ubuntu Phone? [10:27] yes [10:29] ffs, broken in chrome and chrome-beta [10:30] does it have OTR? [10:30] eh? [10:30] Off The Record [10:30] ? [10:31] no, "it" [10:31] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Off-the-Record_Messaging [10:31] which it? [10:32] messaging for ubuntu phone [10:32] its SMS, not messengering app [10:32] ah [10:39] \o/ working in chrome-unstable [10:39] well thats 30 mins of my life I'll never get back. jeez [10:51] I think it's time I took the plunge and got an SSD for my main machine at home [10:53] SSD all the things [10:53] indeed, bigcalm [10:54] \o/ SSD [10:54] i was tempted to RAID0 the two SSDs in my laptop, but figured that might be overkill ☻ [10:54] Crucial drives seem to be on offer on Amazon, is there any reason I should avoid them? [10:54] Super Silly Disk [10:55] they have had a bad reputation in the past [10:55] Seriously Spurious Data [10:55] A colleague of mine put SSDs in a RAID array when they first came out, the drives lasted 9 months of constant reading and writing. [10:55] Super Speedy Data-transfer [10:55] Crucial get good reviews. [10:55] the M4 series of crucial drives had a bad firmware [10:56] M500 is what I'm looking at (960 GB) [10:56] i have an M4 in my laptop ⍨ [10:56] http://www.amazon.co.uk/Crucial-CT960M500SSD1-960GB-Internal-Solid/dp/B00BQ8RGL6/ [10:56] Device Model: OCZ-VERTEX3 [10:56] Device Model: M4-CT256M4SSD3 [10:56] hrm [10:57] looks like bigger SSDs are becoming affordable [10:57] indeed, Laney [10:57] Somewhat Sarcastic Description [10:57] heh, never noticed "Rotation Rate: Solid State Device" [10:57] that's nice [10:57] I had yet another ENOSPC yesterday [10:58] M4 is fixed by recent firmware [10:58] OCZ never really fixed the firmware on drives before vertex 4 [10:58] nice, smartmontools tells me where to get it! [10:58] "pop down to your local argos" [10:58] well, we shall see how it performs, SSD ordered [10:59] http://paste.ubuntu.com/7657848/ [10:59] cock, needs windows [11:00] no updates for me then [11:00] 5184 hours lol [11:01] Rotation rate: ∞ [11:01] ooh, can be done on a usb stick [11:01] so as long as you reboot ever 215 days, you'll be ok :) [11:01] not even a DOS installer... oh cool [11:04] I should get a Solid Stake Disk for my PC really [11:05] Still wouldn't be as fast as the laptop though ⢁( [11:05] fancy that, their firmware thing uses isolinux [11:07] thanks for the tip directhex, will do that later when i next reboot [11:08] the m4 bug is once it hits 5200 hours of uptime (iirc), the drive restarts instead of incrementing to 5201, every time [11:08] sorry, google says it's 5184 hours [11:38] popey: do you remember what that one liner was to generate an epenis measurement? [11:42] I have no idea what you're talking about ☻ [11:42] :| [11:45] Bother. Can't google the irc logs well enough [11:46] Just wanted to measure the performance between current proliant and the one I'm about to replace it with [11:46] bogomips : 6784.93 [11:46] That'll have to do [11:47] aw [11:47] just when I found the script he meant [11:48] link? [11:49] http://ham.zmailer.org/oh2mqk/vpenis.pl I think [11:51] 36.1cm :( [11:51] grrrrifferzzzzzzz === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [12:00] got a quote for my extension = £28.5k :( [12:00] how realistic is the first quote from a builder? [12:02] foobarry, I'd say you need at least 2, maybe 3 quotes to get a general idea [12:02] I know a couple of builders, they rarely rebid if someone comes in cheaper as business is tight they go in at their best first time [12:03] To try and win the job [12:03] If you get a ovepriced quote ( this is what my builder does ) is because they don't want the work and make it more expensive, if someone still wants it done theyre quids in, if not they didn't want it in the first place :) [12:10] They can probably subcontract it to someone else too if they overprice it and genuinely can't do the work because of load. [12:11] I'm sure they all know each others rates and scratch each others backs [12:11] czajkowski, Just saw your tweet, don't you have issues with seeing the screen [12:11] I keep debating moving outside [12:11] Just had a lovely repeatable Xorg crash from using rdesktop [12:11] Not so sure, my neighbour reckons it's free for all [12:12] Fell out with some of his friends over pricing [12:12] But I'm stuck behind a firewall and don't think apport uploaded it [12:12] Have changed to Remmina for the time being since I need to do the thing that provoked the crash again [12:13] But I dislike Remmina since it's not as flexible as rdesktop for my needs (even if rdesktop is now obsolescent because it doesn't do NLA) [12:13] diplo: nope cna see it just fine [12:14] Hmm, may drag my lappy out later and give it a go [12:14] current work set up :) https://twitter.com/czajkowski/status/478871378935177216/photo/1 [12:14] nice to get fresh air and some sunshine [12:17] 633.1cm [12:34] bogomips : 4392.76 [12:34] Haha [12:34] It's gone down [12:34] More RAM though [12:34] Might be an on-demand thing [12:34] * bigcalm goes to lunch [12:35] System survived moving the 4 HDDs from one machine to the other [12:35] bogomips are vulnerable to CPU scaling, no? [12:35] Except that eth0 moved to eth1 [12:35] That confused me for a while [12:35] awilkins: indeed [12:36] I remember having to find out how to tie an ethX number to a specific MAC address many years ago. [12:36] bigcalm: right when you left I was about to paste this to you: http://ham.zmailer.org/oh2mqk/vpenis.pl === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [12:48] * awilkins has a mere 316.1cm [12:52] Four foot eight and a quarter. [13:09] Myrtti: that's the one, thanks :) [13:10] Bit more than a one liner then :) [13:14] Unfortunate link. [13:21] directhex: still use your touhcpad? [13:22] foobarry, sold it a while ago [13:23] :P [13:23] trying to use the tptoolbox that removes webos [13:28] foobarry: ##cyanogenmod-touchpad [13:28] i own one too [13:29] oops, single # [13:29] thanks, i was in the wrong chan [13:29] it's pretty idle but the main guys are around at times === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g [15:14] boy oh boy, i'm somewhat upset that sublime text is just not moving anywhere. i said i would give it till june, welll, it's here now [15:14] I see more adn more plugins putting "holding development until sublime's abondonware status is resolved" notices on their github pages [15:15] there's always Brackets [15:15] I think i'll still use sublime, until i find something better, but i would also like to identify an alternative [15:15] Brackets... hmmm [15:15] http://brackets.io/ [15:16] edlin [15:17] ed [15:18] edd the duck [15:18] ed is the standard editor. what more reason do you need? http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed-msg.html [15:18] though linking to anything in 'fun' on gnu.org makes me wonder slightly :-) [15:27] That's depressing === Laney is now known as mrage === mrage is now known as Laney [15:32] anyone ever used claycrete? [15:32] instant papier mache [15:32] a bit like smash mash [15:34] o.O [15:51] hmm, Atom and Brackets seems to be the two choices out there. [15:52] sublime is abandoned? [15:55] popey: well,, we dont know for sure, [15:55] last beta release for ST3 is Dec 2013, last ST2 is over a year now. [15:55] last communication from jon is Dec 2013, last communication from his sales guy is march [15:56] they said it isn't over,, but they've not done anything in so long, most plugin dev's are walking away until some kind of update is forthcoming [15:58] there is also limetext, [15:59] I have vim with "vim-airline" these days [15:59] a straight golang clone of sublime, but not feature complete by the sounds of it. [15:59] https://github.com/bling/vim-airline [16:17] Security Deposit Charging Incorrectly [16:17] Humm, bad middle mouse button, bad [16:17] Actually, I think there's something wrong with pasting into Chromium [16:18] A tab will freeze up if I try to paste into an input box. But this appears to happen inconsistently [16:32] that is mental, i've never managed to get a grip on the vim plugin managers [16:32] ^^ refering to vim-airline === map is now known as Guest47688 [16:42] A thing of beauty http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/IMG_1481-Version-2-980x517.jpg [16:49] Nice storagae box for your spare parts :) === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD === PaulW2U is now known as G4MBY [18:39] morning [18:39] https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/vocore-a-coin-sized-linux-computer-with-wifi [18:39] ali1234: remember that red Sony laptop motherboard with the blown MOSFET I showed you? [18:39] sure [18:39] diddledan hey, you may remember it too [18:40] yup [18:40] so i got the board back today, £35 charge to do the solder job [18:40] https://www.dropbox.com/s/gewunyzpgintm95/IMG-20140617-WA0001.jpg [18:40] :D [18:40] she lives \o/ [18:40] ooh, windows. awesome! [18:40] :-p [18:40] i even managed to glue the built-in speaker connections as i had accidentally broken them on doing the disassemble [18:41] https://www.dropbox.com/s/awbs5f5re7b5nbf/IMG_20140617_180723.jpg [18:41] they are so tiny >_< [18:41] so did they do a good job for £35? [18:41] nice [18:41] yeah, the new MOSFET was perfectly laid out [18:42] i had a quick glance before i paid for it [18:43] it seems the mouse buttons aren't working on the palmrest right now, but other than that the whole machine is back solid... i even stress tested it [18:43] in fact, i first booted ubuntu 14.04 but i couldn't find the package cpuburn anymore... perhaps the live session just doesn't have universe enabled [18:43] for £35 not including any shipping or parts you should absolutely expect it to look like new [18:43] yeah it was a pretty steep quote really [18:44] but i didn't have many options [18:44] £35 is reasonable if they do a proper rework job [18:44] but they'd better actually do that for that price :) [18:45] they had it easy, as i took the board in already disassembled [18:45] in fact i have a shot of what i took in [18:45] yeah seen it [18:45] oh this one? https://www.dropbox.com/s/s1cvcal0tjkfpor/IMG_20140609_154414.jpg [18:45] i made it quite obvious which bit was busted ;) [18:46] this guy does repair videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZlc6tiL1gk [18:47] given the size of the part i'd expect them to do as good a job as that for the price [18:48] ali1234: that shipping package is evil [18:51] haha [18:51] hah, that's pretty bad [18:51] and pretty much the opposite of what I'm getting used to - they seem to send me everything in esd bags, whether it needs it or not [18:51] sigh.... [18:52] it didnt work, and its all my fault :( [18:53] serves me right for attempting to repair hardware... [18:54] jussi: what've you been dealing with? [18:55] this video is interesting, i had no idea this kinda gear is used [18:55] daftykins: I tried to replace the glass on my note 2. accidentally cut the ribbon cable [18:55] daftykins: that gear is totally OTT for that kind of chip [18:55] daftykins: really that kind of gear is for BGAs [18:56] daftykins: his amiga repair videos are good too [18:57] it does make removing a chip nice and easy tho [19:00] diddledan: ah reflowing gear [19:00] ? [19:00] i don't even have a clue what flux is [19:00] nor why he applied it prior to removing the old chip [19:00] daftykins: so the phone works, everything is perfect, except the bottom 3rd of the screen is non responsive :( [19:01] applying flux before soldering the chip onto the board will cause the solder to not bridge as easily with nearby solder - i.e. it'll only apply to each pin and it's pad [19:02] yeah cos he's going to drag solder it. without flux it would just solder every pin together into a huge blog [19:03] jussi: :( is it expensive to get another? [19:03] daftykins: means I nees to replace whole screen... about 140€ [19:07] wow, he repairing a TV?! [19:07] I missed the viera mentino in the title [19:11] that vid was neat :) glad he showed the result [19:12] jussi: :( [19:16] https://www.dropbox.com/s/cxep07nl4dsn6e9/battery.png [19:17] love my laptop :) [19:17] wow [19:29] "Cool stuff but Unity doesn't look professional or attractive to businesses in my opinion. [19:29] They could sell it better and shorten the training a bit if they focused on something like XFCE or any other desktop environment that is productivity oriented." [19:29] lol. [19:33] hehe [19:33] yeah, very true [19:57] Hi, I'm experiencing problems with my Amazon EC2 instance. After updating it's no longer booting up. [19:57] The server log points to this: xc_dom_probe_bzimage_kernel: kernel is not a bzImage [19:57] Googling this brought up some results, but I do not understand them [20:04] d3ngar: that's more an amazon question than an ubuntu one - but I believe you can specify the kernel to use in the admin console [20:21] WHEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeee [20:22] don't you love when canonical employees do webcasts about ubuntu tech, but they're running OS X? [20:22] I'm watching this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJPdH8xmOWg [20:55] in, out, in, out, shake those users all about [20:57] diddledan: meh, works both ways. I met a guy from Red Hat who ran Ubuntu on his laptop ☻ [20:58] popey: lol [20:58] popey: luckily I was only trollin' :-p [20:58] ☻ [20:58] i know a few canonical people run osx [20:59] mainly because they like nice hardware and osx works really nicely on apple kit [20:59] most run ubuntu in vmware or parallels [20:59] popey: obviously canonical is a company with varied users and varied projects besides the os so it makes sense that there's a variety of systems in use [20:59] well, also, a major factor is people buy their own kit [20:59] aah [20:59] the company doesn't provide machines, so people buy whatever they want and support themselves [21:00] that makes sense [21:00] I like the concept of BYOD [21:00] yeah [21:01] although you look around at a canonical sprint and you see many of the same machines [21:01] I've seen reports that most linuxy events have a large percentage of apple gear represented [21:02] it's well built equipment [21:02] persoanally I run an apple laptop, too [21:07] http://www.imdb.com/rg/s/3/title/tt1109624/?ref_=ext_shr_fb_vi#lb-vi3550981145 <-- paddington [21:36] sveiki [21:38] ? [21:39] srry [21:53] http://grahamcluley.com/2014/06/truecrypt-hidden-message/