[01:13] <cmaloney> Evening
[01:13] <rick_h_> evening
[01:44] <jrwren> evening
[02:52] <cmaloney> I wish this band were Cc-licensed: http://hothmusic.bandcamp.com/album/oathbreaker
[02:52] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/cTJH0H - Oathbreaker | Hoth
[02:54] <cmaloney> It's essentially a concept album about Anakin Skywalker. :)
[10:58] <cmaloney> Good morning
[10:59] <cmaloney> I think I've convinced myself that I don't need Mac address filtering
[10:59] <cmaloney> baby-steps. :)
[11:05] <rick_h_> lol
[11:05] <rick_h_> big move cmaloney
[11:10] <cmaloney> Yeah, it's a huge step
[11:10] <cmaloney> mostly because I'm not too thrilled if I need to get another Wifi router of hand-copying those addresses.
[11:11] <cmaloney> And partially because it's a "shed lock". It doesn't keep anyone out other than honest folk.
[11:15] <cmaloney> Pretty soon I'll be running an open network and frolicking like greg-g. :)
[11:15] <cmaloney> as you do
[11:17] <rick_h_> lol
[11:17] <rick_h_> well just get comcast and they'll public wifi it for you :P
[11:17] <cmaloney> Man that grinds me
[12:08] <jrwren> would you prefer they do it at their pole?
[12:09] <krondor> cmaloney: dd-wrt (or other nice firmware), guest network and private network is what I do
[12:10] <jrwren> the electric company does the same thing technically with their wireless meter reading system. Difference being only the meter person can connect to that wireless access point :)
[12:10] <krondor> cmaloney:  I've also seen some throw a QR code on their fridge that lets devices that can scan it connect to their wifi
[12:11] <krondor> jrwren:  I think that would be preferable in my mind to using my residence or whatever
[12:11] <cmaloney> krondor: Yeah, I might do the tiered networking at some point
[12:12] <cmaloney> krondor: Finally going to be in a house where I have to think about logstics. :)
[12:13] <jrwren> new house?
[12:13] <krondor> if your home ownership is anythign like mine wifi will soon be the least of your logistical worries
[12:13] <cmaloney> Yeah,we're moving this weekend
[12:13] <jrwren> congrats.
[12:13] <cmaloney> krondor: Bah, a boy can dream. :)
[12:13] <cmaloney> jrwren: Thank you.
[12:15] <cmaloney> krondor: I'm able to serve most of the current house from the back of the house.
[12:15] <cmaloney> So I was thinking of using WDS or something similar.
[12:16] <cmaloney> Though finding that WDS is a 50% hit is not making me happy. :)
[12:19] <krondor> yeah WDS can be a mixed bag and it meshes over wifi so you lose capacity, and it's very dependent on like for like APs.
[12:19] <brousch__> I bought some ubiquity WAPs. They should arrive soon
[12:19] <cmaloney> yeah. The previous owners had a lot of coax throughout the house, so there's already holes in the floor.
[12:21] <krondor> if you run the ethernet you could just do more APs with the same SSIDs. Versus WDS you can have some issues with sticky connections though
[12:21] <krondor> that is a device holding on to a weaker AP signal instead of hopping to the stronger one closer to it
[12:21] <cmaloney> Ah, so similar to "work". ;)
[12:21] <krondor> like such; http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Wireless_Access_Point
[12:21] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/JUDZ - Wireless access point - DD-WRT Wiki
[12:22] <krondor> like minds :)
[12:22] <cmaloney> bookiebot is a bot. :)
[12:22] <cmaloney> .echo Hi krondor
[12:22] <bookiebot> Hi krondor
[12:22] <krondor> ugh it's early where's my coffee
[12:22] <cmaloney> ;)
[12:23] <cmaloney> Ok, off to work and such.
[12:23] <cmaloney> brb.
[13:39] <cmaloney> Good morning again. ;)
[13:54] <mrgoodcat> and to you
[13:54] <mrgoodcat> i missed a lot of conversation this morning it looks like
[15:39] <cmaloney> Yeah, it's a momentous occasion
[15:40] <greg-g> cmaloney: buying a house?
[15:40] <cmaloney> greg-g: Long story, but moving into a bigger house.
[15:40] <greg-g> coolio
[15:40] <cmaloney> yeah
[15:40] <cmaloney> We won't have our Japanese Knotweed collection.
[15:46] <brousch__> A bigger house? with room for children?
[15:46] <cmaloney> And room under the floorboards
[15:46] <cmaloney> hint hint
[15:46] <cmaloney> Actually we'll have room for children. With a padlock.
[15:47] <brousch__> Why would you give a child a padlock?
[15:47] <cmaloney> So they can lock themselves in the room.
[19:33] <greg-g> cmaloney: so, on this esoteric topic again: what is a simple, easy to use, but also useful local Logitech Media player? One I can install on my laptop, point it at an IP, and play my music?
[19:33] <greg-g> I guess I've never been happy with 'em ;)
[19:34] <brousch__> logitech?
[19:34] <cmaloney> squeezelite?
[19:34] <greg-g> yeah
[19:34] <cmaloney> That's what I use.
[19:34] <greg-g> kk
[19:34] <cmaloney> There's Squeezeslave, but it is locked to 44.1khz
[19:35] <cmaloney> Squeezelite has no interface so you'll need to control it via other means.
[19:35] <greg-g> hmm, squeezelite is headless? Have to control it via the LMS itself?
[19:35] <cmaloney> let me share you my script.
[19:35] <cmaloney> Yeah
[19:35] <cmaloney> Which is a "good thing"
[19:35] <greg-g> that's fine, i just setup a home vpn
[19:35] <greg-g> oh?
[19:35] <greg-g> why?
[19:35] <cmaloney> squeezeslave has a curses client
[19:35] <greg-g> I want, basically, the Squeeebox Touch on my laptop
[19:36] <cmaloney> reason I think squeezelite headless with LMS web page is better is because the LMS web page can do everything
[19:36]  * greg-g ponders setting up a craiglist search for another one, just in case
[19:36] <greg-g> gotcha
[19:36] <cmaloney> Yeah, tell me about it
[19:37] <cmaloney> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7660010/
[19:37] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/HURVEi - Ubuntu Pastebin
[19:37] <cmaloney> That's the script that I use for my work Squeezelite.
[19:38] <cmaloney> I run a SSH tunnel so port :9000 and :3483 are pointing at localhost
[19:39] <cmaloney> -z is "daemonize"
[19:40] <greg-g> I don't hear anything
[19:41] <cmaloney> You might want to try running it without -z for now to see if there's any output
[19:41] <greg-g> none
[19:41] <cmaloney> -d all
[19:43] <cmaloney> Bah, later version of Squeezelite needs -s for the server.
[19:44] <greg-g> this is connecting
[19:44] <greg-g> LMS thinks it's controlling it
[19:44] <greg-g> http://paste.debian.net/105524/
[19:45] <cmaloney> Did you select it as a player? :)
[19:45] <greg-g> yeah
[19:46] <greg-g> I just switched to a flac file from mp3 and see:
[19:46] <greg-g> HTTP/1.1 200 OK
[19:46] <greg-g> Server: Logitech Media Server (7.7.3 - 1375965195)
[19:46] <greg-g> Connection: close
[19:46] <greg-g> Content-Type: audio/x-flac
[19:46] <greg-g> in the debug
[19:46] <greg-g> i just don't hear anythig
[19:46] <cmaloney> Vol / mute?
[19:46] <greg-g> gah!
[19:46] <cmaloney> heh
[19:47] <greg-g> my sound output was set to headphones, for some weird reason
[19:47] <cmaloney> I know that sound. :)
[19:47] <cmaloney> But yeah, Squeezelite has active development
[19:47] <cmaloney> and frankly not having to keep another terminal window open == a
[19:47] <cmaloney> a+
[19:48] <cmaloney> Chances are you'll have a browser open anyway.
[19:48] <greg-g> :)
[19:48] <greg-g> true
[19:49] <cmaloney> That's pretty much how I ran Squeezeslave.
[19:49] <cmaloney> unfortunately things like TWIT and WRCJ would sound like drunken chipmunks.
[19:50] <greg-g> twit *isn't* a bunch of drunken chipmunks?
[19:50]  * greg-g just walked by their office this morning, in fact
[19:51] <cmaloney> There's some Java interfaces that mimic the classic Squeezebox interface but they're kind of a pain to use, and don't sound as good
[19:51] <cmaloney> hah
[19:51] <cmaloney> http://sourceforge.net/projects/softsqueeze/files/softsqueeze/
[19:51] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/N8lene - Softsqueeze - Browse /softsqueeze at SourceForge.net
[19:53] <greg-g> :)
[19:53] <greg-g> that's as old as the dark them I used last night that totally broke
[19:56] <cmaloney> Yeah. It was one of the first things that I tried
[19:56] <cmaloney> then I found squeezeslave, and finally squeezelite.
[19:57] <greg-g> and squeezelite is in debian, so, yay
[19:58] <cmaloney> Yeah. If I could figure out how to have it do something sane on @reboot I'd never have to manually run "ru_squeezelite" again
[19:58] <cmaloney> but that's another topic.
[20:03] <greg-g> also, yay gapless playback
[20:03]  * greg-g goes to test a good test of that
[20:04] <greg-g> yeah, perfect gapless there
[20:04] <greg-g> parabol -> parabola on Tool's Lateralus
[20:04] <cmaloney> Yeah, it's my go-to- player for my music library
[20:05] <cmaloney> greg-g: Do you have last.fm set up?
[20:05] <greg-g> that's a tough one if the gapless sucks, it's a crescendo
[20:05] <greg-g> uh...
[20:05] <greg-g> .np Phlegethon
[20:05] <bookiebot> Phlegethon's last track - Strip the Soul (edit) by Porcupine Tree on Futile [17 Jun 2014, 04:30]
[20:05] <greg-g> nope
[20:05] <cmaloney> Yeah, head to settings / player
[20:05] <greg-g> i have to do that per player?
[20:05] <greg-g> kk
[20:05] <cmaloney> Yep
[20:06] <cmaloney> And give it a nice name
[20:06] <greg-g> done
[20:06] <cmaloney> Nice thing is you can also set max bitrate
[20:06] <greg-g> .np Phlegethon
[20:06] <bookiebot> Phlegethon's last track - Strip the Soul (edit) by Porcupine Tree on Futile [17 Jun 2014, 04:30]
[20:06] <cmaloney> so if you are at work and using ssh tunnel, you can cap it at 160kbps
[20:06] <cmaloney> or whatever
[20:06] <greg-g> hmm, might take til the next track
[20:06] <greg-g> gotcha
[20:07] <cmaloney> so I've used it at B&N in their cafe to listen to music
[20:07] <cmaloney> or OCC
[20:07] <greg-g> "(Note: You do not appear to have LAME installed. Logitech Media Server will need the LAME MP3 encoder installed on your system to do conversion to MP3. You can find out more about LAME here.)  "
[20:07] <greg-g> :)
[20:07] <cmaloney> ahh
[20:07] <greg-g> so, that only works for mp3s? not flac then I assume
[20:07] <greg-g> which uh... is the main bandwidth culprit ;)
[20:08] <greg-g> maybe lame works on flac as well? 'tis been forever since I effed with lame
[20:08] <cmaloney> it works for flac
[20:08] <brousch__> greg-g: It's official. You're not lame
[20:08] <cmaloney> it'll down-sample
[20:08] <cmaloney> so if the bitrate is more than 160kpbs it'll resample and ship that file.
[20:09] <greg-g> oh, but I need that on the LMS, which is my synology nas, which.... yeah
[20:09] <cmaloney> Yeah, that might be a little fun
[20:10] <greg-g> no pre-built package.... another day
[20:10] <greg-g> i wish it was easy to flash a real OS on that nice little box
[20:10] <cmaloney> yeah
[20:11] <cmaloney> but yeah, if I could keep an SSH tunnel on my phone without destroying the battery I'd be connected to the squeezebox all the time
[20:11]  * greg-g nods
[20:12] <cmaloney> fuck this clopud shit. :)
[20:12] <cmaloney> ;)
[20:12] <greg-g> .np Phlegethon
[20:12] <bookiebot> Phlegethon's current track - Third Eye (live) by Tool on Salival
[20:12] <greg-g> there we go
[20:34] <cmaloney> NIce net-split.
[20:50] <cmaloney> .np squeekyhoho
[20:50] <bookiebot> squeekyhoho's current track - Despair by Hoth on Oathbreaker
[21:13] <cmaloney> Great. Apparently there's a band from Flint called King 810
[21:13] <cmaloney> apparently they're making a name for themselves by being assholes.
[21:13] <cmaloney> yay
[23:30] <cmaloney> Evening
[23:46] <rick_h_> ugh, /me hates hot weather
[23:47] <rick_h_> portland!!!!! portland!!!
[23:48] <cmaloney> heh