| bduk1 | Morning everyone | 05:21 |
|---|---|---|
| nuvolari | o/ morning | 05:28 |
| nuvolari | o hi bduk1 | 05:28 |
| bduk1 | Morning nuvolari | 05:39 |
| * Kilos Waves | 05:57 | |
| nuvolari | oh hi oom Kilos :D | 06:03 |
| Kilos | lo nuvolari | 06:03 |
| Kilos | :-) | 06:03 |
| nuvolari | hoe gaan dit oom? | 06:03 |
| nuvolari | het oom 'n lekker vakansiedag gehad? | 06:03 |
| Kilos | goed dankie en jy seun ek sien daar is nuwe goed vir java en html5 | 06:04 |
| Kilos | elke dagf selle vir my | 06:04 |
| Kilos | http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/simd-meets-html5-javascript/ | 06:06 |
| Kilos | jo bushtech_ het jy bed nat gemaak ou ballie? | 06:10 |
| Kilos | hi JabberwockyA19 die_held | 06:11 |
| JabberwockyA19 | more Kilos, o/ everyone | 06:12 |
| Private_User | morning all | 06:20 |
| Private_User | morning bduk1, morning nuvolari, morning Kilos, morning JabberwockyA19 | 06:20 |
| Kilos | hi Private_User | 06:20 |
| Kilos | where are we gonna find you some ram | 06:21 |
| Kilos | ohi Guest93229 wassup graeme | 06:28 |
| === Guest93229 is now known as ThatGraemeGuy_ | ||
| ThatGraemeGuy_ | 'lo | 06:28 |
| Kilos | haha | 06:28 |
| ThatGraemeGuy_ | can't connect to my bouncer for some reason :-/ | 06:29 |
| Kilos | ohi superfly you managed to wake up. sjoe late nights are hard work | 06:29 |
| * Kilos had another idea for the DEEP dam | 06:30 | |
| ThatGraemeGuy_ | i'm afraid to ask | 06:31 |
| Kilos | if it wont flood the below area one could build a nice waterfall near the top and even use that high glow glass stuff to light it up | 06:31 |
| Kilos | hehe | 06:31 |
| Kilos | its a beautiful dam | 06:31 |
| Kilos | same as they do on real time dams the overflow makes a waterfall | 06:32 |
| superfly | hi Kilos, ThatGraemeGuy_ | 06:32 |
| ThatGraemeGuy_ | you can try | 06:36 |
| ThatGraemeGuy_ | if it sucks you just add a block back to stop it | 06:36 |
| Kilos | na i fall over the end and die | 06:36 |
| Kilos | i cant walk on air like some | 06:36 |
| inetpro | good mornings | 06:43 |
| Maaz | inetpro: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell inetpro Wen jy darem met die krag probleme oompie" 13 hours, 5 minutes and 30 seconds ago | 06:43 |
| Kilos | hi inetpro | 06:43 |
| inetpro | ack Kilos | 06:44 |
| Kilos | ack? | 06:45 |
| Kilos | what taal is that | 06:45 |
| inetpro | tcp | 06:46 |
| Kilos | tcp is ontsmetmiddel vloeistof | 06:46 |
| inetpro | ACK is a flag used in the Transmission Control Protocol (TCP) to acknowledge receipt of a packet | 06:47 |
| inetpro | hoe gaan dit oom? | 06:47 |
| nuvolari | dankie oom Kilos , ek gaan bietjie loer | 06:47 |
| Kilos | goed dankie inetpro net koud soos elke winter | 06:47 |
| nuvolari | oh hi Private_User, JabberwockyA19, ThatGraemeGuy_ | 06:47 |
| Kilos | en jy | 06:47 |
| ThatGraemeGuy_ | 'lo :-) | 06:48 |
| inetpro | oh and hi everyone else | 06:48 |
| Private_User | hi ThatGraemeGuy_ and inetpro | 06:48 |
| Kilos | we actually needed you knowledge inetpro to try sort where a bottle neck is with a connection but i think the fly has it planned out | 06:51 |
| Kilos | is there a deeper probe tool than mtr? | 06:51 |
| ThatGraemeGuy_ | what are you trying to do? | 06:51 |
| Kilos | oh didnt you follow our investigation into that lag ThatGraemeGuy | 06:53 |
| Kilos | there is one server thats losing 40% of its packets | 06:53 |
| ThatGraemeGuy_ | i was probably too busy mining obscene amounts of obsidian | 06:53 |
| Kilos | haha | 06:53 |
| Kilos | what you wanna do with it all | 06:53 |
| ThatGraemeGuy_ | "server"? you mean one of the hops along the route between you and the minetest server? | 06:54 |
| Kilos | ya that | 06:54 |
| Kilos | we even got its ip addy | 06:54 |
| ThatGraemeGuy_ | if mtr shows significant loss there and all hops after then it's causing real loss | 06:54 |
| ThatGraemeGuy_ | if its just there it may just be rate-limiting icmp packets at that hop | 06:55 |
| Kilos | and for a while it showed as blahblah.linode.blabla now just ip addy | 06:55 |
| Kilos | i dont understand all that but fly will | 06:55 |
| Kilos | its just th one the others show no loss | 06:56 |
| ThatGraemeGuy_ | send a screenshot | 06:56 |
| Kilos | are you in the game? | 06:56 |
| ThatGraemeGuy_ | no, i mean send a screenshot of the mtr output | 06:56 |
| Kilos | i gotta go get it again | 06:57 |
| Kilos | http://picpaste.com/upload.php | 07:00 |
| Kilos | its a bit better today, went up to 60% at times | 07:01 |
| Kilos | averages around 40% | 07:01 |
| ThatGraemeGuy_ | that's the upload page | 07:02 |
| Kilos | oi sorry | 07:03 |
| Kilos | http://picpaste.com/25-8IIIaalj.png | 07:03 |
| Kilos | hi smil | 07:04 |
| Kilos | smile, too | 07:04 |
| Kilos | kb getting sticky | 07:04 |
| smile | hi! :D | 07:04 |
| Kilos | 8. 195.66.224.82 | 07:05 |
| smile | your IP address, Kilos? :) | 07:05 |
| Kilos | no man a sick place in a link | 07:05 |
| Kilos | or sick link in a route | 07:08 |
| inetpro | ai! | 07:13 |
| Kilos | wat nou? | 07:14 |
| inetpro | why send an image when a copy and paste of text would do? | 07:14 |
| Kilos | he asked for screenshot so i gave one | 07:14 |
| Kilos | coulda used slexy hey? | 07:14 |
| Kilos | ai! | 07:14 |
| inetpro | exactly | 07:15 |
| inetpro | anyway, nothing I can do about that | 07:15 |
| inetpro | but looks clearly like some problem at the ISP level | 07:16 |
| Private_User | lol Kilos, just looked at a pic from that link you pasted here and was wondering if any of the peeps here as there work area looking like this | 07:16 |
| Private_User | http://picpaste.com/tastatur.gif | 07:16 |
| bduk1 | Jig Private_User | 07:17 |
| Kilos | hahaha ja mine | 07:17 |
| inetpro | at the same time it could be like ThatGraemeGuy_ mentioned, rate-limiting of icmp packets | 07:18 |
| Kilos | well inetpro we gotta fix it | 07:18 |
| inetpro | no | 07:18 |
| ThatGraemeGuy_ | Kilos: the 25% loss at the intermediate hop is probably rate-limiting, but the 4.8% at the end is actual loss | 07:18 |
| Kilos | they must all read 0% loss then it will work better | 07:18 |
| ThatGraemeGuy_ | and with the game being udp-based that will be part of your problem | 07:19 |
| Kilos | so how do we fix it | 07:19 |
| ThatGraemeGuy_ | you find another isp | 07:20 |
| Kilos | every illness has a cure if you know where to find it | 07:20 |
| Kilos | ah | 07:20 |
| inetpro | I see no proof of any illness really | 07:21 |
| Kilos | ai! ek sukkel darem | 07:22 |
| Kilos | only way you can see that there is a prob inetpro is to try the game and die because of lag | 07:23 |
| ThatGraemeGuy_ | there is packet loss between him and the minetest server, and it impacts the game's behaviour to varying degrees | 07:23 |
| Kilos | but strangely it hits the monkey 10 times worse than me | 07:24 |
| ThatGraemeGuy_ | Kilos: how's your mtr look to 41.203.11.67? | 07:26 |
| Kilos | lemme try | 07:26 |
| ThatGraemeGuy_ | you can press 'p' on mtr to pause updating and then copy/paste the text instead of do an image screenshot | 07:27 |
| Kilos | 0%all thje way | 07:28 |
| Kilos | it wont let me copy paste | 07:28 |
| Kilos | ai! | 07:28 |
| Kilos | oh ok | 07:28 |
| Kilos | http://slexy.org/view/s2PFtAo5iv | 07:29 |
| ThatGraemeGuy_ | wow that's pretty good for a 3g connection | 07:30 |
| Kilos | i told you i got a good one | 07:30 |
| ThatGraemeGuy_ | it's also because the server's on a very good network :P | 07:30 |
| Kilos | im sure im faster than lotsa adsl connections | 07:30 |
| Kilos | so put the game there | 07:31 |
| ThatGraemeGuy_ | not really sure if i can, i must see if i can make a plan | 07:31 |
| Kilos | lol do it | 07:31 |
| Kilos | haha | 07:31 |
| ThatGraemeGuy_ | lol you're fired! | 07:31 |
| ThatGraemeGuy_ | i'll rather check first thanks ;) | 07:31 |
| Kilos | oi i forgot to let sheep out. wbb | 07:32 |
| Kilos | and if you can find a way to make it use less data youll be my hero for a while | 07:32 |
| ThatGraemeGuy_ | it shouldn't use much data i imagine | 07:33 |
| Kilos | over 100m a day atm | 07:33 |
| Kilos | wbb | 07:33 |
| ThatGraemeGuy_ | heh | 07:33 |
| ThatGraemeGuy_ | i use more than that on my phone | 07:33 |
| ThatGraemeGuy_ | but yeah, quite pricey if you're not using afrihost mobile i guess | 07:34 |
| Kilos | haha the game has doubled my data useage | 07:38 |
| Kilos | usage | 07:38 |
| Kilos | daai ding | 07:38 |
| charl_ | morning all | 07:44 |
| charl_ | Maaz: coffee on | 07:44 |
| * Maaz washes some mugs | 07:44 | |
| Kilos | hi charl_ | 07:44 |
| charl_ | hi Kilos | 07:44 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for charl_! | 07:48 |
| * nuvolari does the split and cracks a bum muscle | 08:57 | |
| nuvolari | :-/ | 08:57 |
| Kilos | hehe | 08:57 |
| Kilos | Maaz, hi | 10:23 |
| Maaz | Howzit Kilos | 10:23 |
| superfly | ohi | 11:13 |
| Vince-0 | o/ | 11:21 |
| Kilos | hi Vince-0 | 11:38 |
| Vince-0 | hai | 11:49 |
| Private_User1 | hmm... not sure whats going on today, I have been disconnected and reconnected on IRC like around 5 times already, anybody else experiencing this issue? | 12:28 |
| Kilos | there are a coupla others as well | 12:29 |
| Kilos | but you the worst, but not as bad as it has been | 12:30 |
| Kilos | maybe if i sleep a while it will be better when i return | 12:34 |
| charl_ | probably freenode under ddos again | 13:11 |
| smile | hi :p | 13:44 |
| charl_ | hi smile | 13:49 |
| smile | hi charl_ :p | 13:49 |
| charl_ | long time no speak to | 13:50 |
| charl_ | how have you been | 13:50 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 15:42 |
| Kilos | inetpro, you home? | 15:46 |
| Kilos | hi psychicist | 17:25 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee on | 17:31 |
| * Maaz washes some mugs | 17:31 | |
| theblazehen | maaz coffee please | 17:31 |
| Maaz | theblazehen: Alrighty | 17:31 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos and theblazehen! | 17:35 |
| Kilos | Maaz, thanks man | 17:35 |
| Maaz | Kilos It gives me great pleasure to serve a bunch of geeks :-) | 17:35 |
| === ThatGraemeGuy_ is now known as Guest78107 | ||
| Kilos | hi ThatGraemeGuy superfly | 18:39 |
| Kilos | i see you ingame but i got bad lag tonight. yesterday avy was wonderful | 18:39 |
| superfly | hi Kilos | 18:41 |
| theblazehen | hi superfly ThatGraemeGuy | 18:44 |
| superfly | hi theblazehen | 18:44 |
| theblazehen | superfly: You have any experience with postfix+dovecot as a mail server? | 18:45 |
| superfly | theblazehen: a tiny bit | 18:45 |
| theblazehen | kk. Having some troubles receiving mail | 18:46 |
| theblazehen | Might be permissions but don't feel like dealing with it now | 18:46 |
| theblazehen | Think its permissions | 18:46 |
| theblazehen | using guide at http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/03/taking-e-mail-back-part-2-arming-your-server-with-postfix-dovecot/2/ got something that says no user $username, where it's supposed to create virtual user | 18:47 |
| theblazehen | I then create real user and it doesn't give error, but gives problem in mail.log about permissions | 18:47 |
| superfly | theblazehen: I took the easy route, I used a setup script called iRedMail | 18:48 |
| superfly | http://www.iredmail.org/ | 18:48 |
| theblazehen | superfly: ah ok.. I don't have enough ram for that | 18:48 |
| superfly | how much ram do you have? | 18:49 |
| theblazehen | Needs 1024 MB IIRC | 18:49 |
| Kilos | idea superfly ThatGraemeGuy can you find which one or more of those mtr ips are in za, yesterday avy while building the wall i had no lag at all. s methinks it might be one of them that was on holiday yesterday | 18:49 |
| theblazehen | 512 MB on VPS | 18:49 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: ip list? | 18:49 |
| superfly | theblazehen: I'll be honest, I'm not convinced you need 1GB, I think that's just if you're going to have major filtering and spam rules | 18:50 |
| Kilos | http://slexy.org/view/s2RfN6X64R | 18:50 |
| Kilos | thats today i dunno what yesterdays one was | 18:50 |
| theblazehen | superfly: yeah, maybe. Prefer DIY anyway though. Doing it mostly to learn how it works | 18:52 |
| Kilos | superfly, did you do a mtr yesterday so we can compare and maybe find the weak link | 18:53 |
| Kilos | hi bushtech have you installed 14.04 server | 18:54 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: /me has it at home | 18:54 |
| theblazehen | 14.04 server | 18:54 |
| Kilos | bushtech, asked yesterday how good it runs he wants to upgrade from 12.04 | 18:55 |
| theblazehen | Not much different from what I could tell | 18:56 |
| Kilos | you dont need to sort the 3g probs that 12.04 had | 18:57 |
| Kilos | imo 14.04 has that sorted | 18:57 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: on mtr from hop 8 and velow it's not is ZA | 18:58 |
| Kilos | oh my so all the prob ones worked lekker yesterday even though they didnt have a holiday | 18:59 |
| Kilos | sigh | 18:59 |
| Kilos | i was hoping it was one of ours | 18:59 |
| Kilos | then we could send the mafia to break some legs | 19:00 |
| theblazehen | http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/28axb6/incorrect_answers_on_lpic_linuxessentials_prep/ lol :/ | 19:04 |
| Kilos | ah he putting kids to bed | 19:10 |
| bushtech | Kilos: Not yet | 19:29 |
| Kilos | no rush. was just wondering | 19:32 |
| bushtech | still checking it out, don't want to trash my raid server, had enough trouble setting that mother up | 19:32 |
| Kilos | aha i see your point | 19:33 |
| Kilos | i forget peeps arent like me with 3 pcs just to play with | 19:33 |
| bushtech | and need to do it after 12 (night owl) just gets bloody cold | 19:34 |
| Kilos | ouch | 19:34 |
| Kilos | ya wait for summer | 19:34 |
| bushtech | lots pc's around here but only one backup server | 19:34 |
| Kilos | lol ya but mine are just toys nothing that needs to work except irc | 19:35 |
| bushtech | would hate any of 3 to go down | 19:36 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 20:28 |
| JabberwockyA19 | amper tyd om op die bed neer te slaan | 20:29 |
| * JabberwockyA19 maak net sy taak klaar | 20:29 | |
| Kilos | haha | 20:29 |
| JabberwockyA19 | good night everyone! | 20:48 |
| Kilos | night JabberwockyA19 | 20:48 |
| Kilos | sleep tight | 20:48 |
| Kilos | night all . sleep tight | 21:32 |
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