[05:21] Morning everyone [05:28] o/ morning [05:28] o hi bduk1 [05:39] Morning nuvolari [05:57] * Kilos Waves [06:03] oh hi oom Kilos :D [06:03] lo nuvolari [06:03] :-) [06:03] hoe gaan dit oom? [06:03] het oom 'n lekker vakansiedag gehad? [06:04] goed dankie en jy seun ek sien daar is nuwe goed vir java en html5 [06:04] elke dagf selle vir my [06:06] http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/simd-meets-html5-javascript/ [06:10] jo bushtech_ het jy bed nat gemaak ou ballie? [06:11] hi JabberwockyA19 die_held [06:12] more Kilos, o/ everyone [06:20] morning all [06:20] morning bduk1, morning nuvolari, morning Kilos, morning JabberwockyA19 [06:20] hi Private_User [06:21] where are we gonna find you some ram [06:28] ohi Guest93229 wassup graeme === Guest93229 is now known as ThatGraemeGuy_ [06:28] 'lo [06:28] haha [06:29] can't connect to my bouncer for some reason :-/ [06:29] ohi superfly you managed to wake up. sjoe late nights are hard work [06:30] * Kilos had another idea for the DEEP dam [06:31] i'm afraid to ask [06:31] if it wont flood the below area one could build a nice waterfall near the top and even use that high glow glass stuff to light it up [06:31] hehe [06:31] its a beautiful dam [06:32] same as they do on real time dams the overflow makes a waterfall [06:32] hi Kilos, ThatGraemeGuy_ [06:36] you can try [06:36] if it sucks you just add a block back to stop it [06:36] na i fall over the end and die [06:36] i cant walk on air like some [06:43] good mornings [06:43] inetpro: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell inetpro Wen jy darem met die krag probleme oompie" 13 hours, 5 minutes and 30 seconds ago [06:43] hi inetpro [06:44] ack Kilos [06:45] ack? [06:45] what taal is that [06:46] tcp [06:46] tcp is ontsmetmiddel vloeistof [06:47] ACK is a flag used in the Transmission Control Protocol (TCP) to acknowledge receipt of a packet [06:47] hoe gaan dit oom? [06:47] dankie oom Kilos , ek gaan bietjie loer [06:47] goed dankie inetpro net koud soos elke winter [06:47] oh hi Private_User, JabberwockyA19, ThatGraemeGuy_ [06:47] en jy [06:48] 'lo :-) [06:48] oh and hi everyone else [06:48] hi ThatGraemeGuy_ and inetpro [06:51] we actually needed you knowledge inetpro to try sort where a bottle neck is with a connection but i think the fly has it planned out [06:51] is there a deeper probe tool than mtr? [06:51] what are you trying to do? [06:53] oh didnt you follow our investigation into that lag ThatGraemeGuy [06:53] there is one server thats losing 40% of its packets [06:53] i was probably too busy mining obscene amounts of obsidian [06:53] haha [06:53] what you wanna do with it all [06:54] "server"? you mean one of the hops along the route between you and the minetest server? [06:54] ya that [06:54] we even got its ip addy [06:54] if mtr shows significant loss there and all hops after then it's causing real loss [06:55] if its just there it may just be rate-limiting icmp packets at that hop [06:55] and for a while it showed as blahblah.linode.blabla now just ip addy [06:55] i dont understand all that but fly will [06:56] its just th one the others show no loss [06:56] send a screenshot [06:56] are you in the game? [06:56] no, i mean send a screenshot of the mtr output [06:57] i gotta go get it again [07:00] http://picpaste.com/upload.php [07:01] its a bit better today, went up to 60% at times [07:01] averages around 40% [07:02] that's the upload page [07:03] oi sorry [07:03] http://picpaste.com/25-8IIIaalj.png [07:04] hi smil [07:04] smile, too [07:04] kb getting sticky [07:04] hi! :D [07:05] 8. 195.66.224.82 [07:05] your IP address, Kilos? :) [07:05] no man a sick place in a link [07:08] or sick link in a route [07:13] ai! [07:14] wat nou? [07:14] why send an image when a copy and paste of text would do? [07:14] he asked for screenshot so i gave one [07:14] coulda used slexy hey? [07:14] ai! [07:15] exactly [07:15] anyway, nothing I can do about that [07:16] but looks clearly like some problem at the ISP level [07:16] lol Kilos, just looked at a pic from that link you pasted here and was wondering if any of the peeps here as there work area looking like this [07:16] http://picpaste.com/tastatur.gif [07:17] Jig Private_User [07:17] hahaha ja mine [07:18] at the same time it could be like ThatGraemeGuy_ mentioned, rate-limiting of icmp packets [07:18] well inetpro we gotta fix it [07:18] no [07:18] Kilos: the 25% loss at the intermediate hop is probably rate-limiting, but the 4.8% at the end is actual loss [07:18] they must all read 0% loss then it will work better [07:19] and with the game being udp-based that will be part of your problem [07:19] so how do we fix it [07:20] you find another isp [07:20] every illness has a cure if you know where to find it [07:20] ah [07:21] I see no proof of any illness really [07:22] ai! ek sukkel darem [07:23] only way you can see that there is a prob inetpro is to try the game and die because of lag [07:23] there is packet loss between him and the minetest server, and it impacts the game's behaviour to varying degrees [07:24] but strangely it hits the monkey 10 times worse than me [07:26] Kilos: how's your mtr look to 41.203.11.67? [07:26] lemme try [07:27] you can press 'p' on mtr to pause updating and then copy/paste the text instead of do an image screenshot [07:28] 0%all thje way [07:28] it wont let me copy paste [07:28] ai! [07:28] oh ok [07:29] http://slexy.org/view/s2PFtAo5iv [07:30] wow that's pretty good for a 3g connection [07:30] i told you i got a good one [07:30] it's also because the server's on a very good network :P [07:30] im sure im faster than lotsa adsl connections [07:31] so put the game there [07:31] not really sure if i can, i must see if i can make a plan [07:31] lol do it [07:31] haha [07:31] lol you're fired! [07:31] i'll rather check first thanks ;) [07:32] oi i forgot to let sheep out. wbb [07:32] and if you can find a way to make it use less data youll be my hero for a while [07:33] it shouldn't use much data i imagine [07:33] over 100m a day atm [07:33] wbb [07:33] heh [07:33] i use more than that on my phone [07:34] but yeah, quite pricey if you're not using afrihost mobile i guess [07:38] haha the game has doubled my data useage [07:38] usage [07:38] daai ding [07:44] morning all [07:44] Maaz: coffee on [07:44] * Maaz washes some mugs [07:44] hi charl_ [07:44] hi Kilos [07:48] Coffee's ready for charl_! [08:57] * nuvolari does the split and cracks a bum muscle [08:57] :-/ [08:57] hehe [10:23] Maaz, hi [10:23] Howzit Kilos [11:13] ohi [11:21] o/ [11:38] hi Vince-0 [11:49] hai [12:28] hmm... not sure whats going on today, I have been disconnected and reconnected on IRC like around 5 times already, anybody else experiencing this issue? [12:29] there are a coupla others as well [12:30] but you the worst, but not as bad as it has been [12:34] maybe if i sleep a while it will be better when i return [13:11] probably freenode under ddos again [13:44] hi :p [13:49] hi smile [13:49] hi charl_ :p [13:50] long time no speak to [13:50] how have you been [15:42] hmm... [15:46] inetpro, you home? [17:25] hi psychicist [17:31] Maaz, coffee on [17:31] * Maaz washes some mugs [17:31] maaz coffee please [17:31] theblazehen: Alrighty [17:35] Coffee's ready for Kilos and theblazehen! [17:35] Maaz, thanks man [17:35] Kilos It gives me great pleasure to serve a bunch of geeks :-) === ThatGraemeGuy_ is now known as Guest78107 [18:39] hi ThatGraemeGuy superfly [18:39] i see you ingame but i got bad lag tonight. yesterday avy was wonderful [18:41] hi Kilos [18:44] hi superfly ThatGraemeGuy [18:44] hi theblazehen [18:45] superfly: You have any experience with postfix+dovecot as a mail server? [18:45] theblazehen: a tiny bit [18:46] kk. Having some troubles receiving mail [18:46] Might be permissions but don't feel like dealing with it now [18:46] Think its permissions [18:47] using guide at http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/03/taking-e-mail-back-part-2-arming-your-server-with-postfix-dovecot/2/ got something that says no user $username, where it's supposed to create virtual user [18:47] I then create real user and it doesn't give error, but gives problem in mail.log about permissions [18:48] theblazehen: I took the easy route, I used a setup script called iRedMail [18:48] http://www.iredmail.org/ [18:48] superfly: ah ok.. I don't have enough ram for that [18:49] how much ram do you have? [18:49] Needs 1024 MB IIRC [18:49] idea superfly ThatGraemeGuy can you find which one or more of those mtr ips are in za, yesterday avy while building the wall i had no lag at all. s methinks it might be one of them that was on holiday yesterday [18:49] 512 MB on VPS [18:49] Kilos: ip list? [18:50] theblazehen: I'll be honest, I'm not convinced you need 1GB, I think that's just if you're going to have major filtering and spam rules [18:50] http://slexy.org/view/s2RfN6X64R [18:50] thats today i dunno what yesterdays one was [18:52] superfly: yeah, maybe. Prefer DIY anyway though. Doing it mostly to learn how it works [18:53] superfly, did you do a mtr yesterday so we can compare and maybe find the weak link [18:54] hi bushtech have you installed 14.04 server [18:54] Kilos: /me has it at home [18:54] 14.04 server [18:55] bushtech, asked yesterday how good it runs he wants to upgrade from 12.04 [18:56] Not much different from what I could tell [18:57] you dont need to sort the 3g probs that 12.04 had [18:57] imo 14.04 has that sorted [18:58] Kilos: on mtr from hop 8 and velow it's not is ZA [18:59] oh my so all the prob ones worked lekker yesterday even though they didnt have a holiday [18:59] sigh [18:59] i was hoping it was one of ours [19:00] then we could send the mafia to break some legs [19:04] http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/28axb6/incorrect_answers_on_lpic_linuxessentials_prep/ lol :/ [19:10] ah he putting kids to bed [19:29] Kilos: Not yet [19:32] no rush. was just wondering [19:32] still checking it out, don't want to trash my raid server, had enough trouble setting that mother up [19:33] aha i see your point [19:33] i forget peeps arent like me with 3 pcs just to play with [19:34] and need to do it after 12 (night owl) just gets bloody cold [19:34] ouch [19:34] ya wait for summer [19:34] lots pc's around here but only one backup server [19:35] lol ya but mine are just toys nothing that needs to work except irc [19:36] would hate any of 3 to go down [20:28] sjoe [20:29] amper tyd om op die bed neer te slaan [20:29] * JabberwockyA19 maak net sy taak klaar [20:29] haha [20:48] good night everyone! [20:48] night JabberwockyA19 [20:48] sleep tight [21:32] night all . sleep tight