[00:05] <davidsong> what's a good alternative to Nautilus, it's really pissing me off right now
[00:10] <Erdbeertage> hey
[00:10] <surely> davidsong, All the desktop versions have there own file system take your pick
[00:11] <linuxuz3r> nice http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTcyMTI
[00:11] <mittwally> Hello, I need the Ubuntu 14.014 Trusty Tahr manual, Can someone give me the link?
[00:12] <surely> mittwally, Maybe a ubuntu manual?
[00:12] <mittwally> surely: ok
[00:12] <genii> mittwally: https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/index.html
[00:12] <Arkeus6> thats an easy one
[00:12] <mittwally> genii: thanks
[00:13]  * genii makes more coffee
[00:13] <surely> !manual  | mittwally
[00:13] <mittwally> surely: thanks
[00:14] <surely> mittwally, my pleasure
[00:15] <Bashing-om> mittwally: "Nother one - I like - http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Trusty .
[00:16] <mittwally> Bashing-om: Hehe, I asked one time and gave me three options, more than awesome.
[00:17] <mittwally> Real thanks!
[00:19] <CooLBALL> i love mate with a good theme
[00:19] <CooLBALL> but unity is great
[00:20] <CooLBALL> really imho a better design
[00:21] <CooLBALL> why not put menu bars on the taskbar
[00:22] <CooLBALL> and put window buttons on the left and title next to them... on the taskbar when you mouse over
[00:22] <CooLBALL> but i guess its the other way around
[00:23] <CooLBALL> you dont want the menu bar to disappear when you mouse over it
[00:23] <CooLBALL> truly a great design
[00:24] <CooLBALL> what is going to happen... how is caonical going to get money?
[00:24] <CooLBALL> canonical
[00:28] <Artemis3> not by ranting in the support channel for sure
[00:41] <monty__> hello
[00:43] <ADW>  hi
[00:53] <PCworker> Hello, I would like to know if it is possible to upgrade Ubuntu 12.04 LTS to the new Ubuntu 14.04 LTS??? Or do I need to upgrade to 13.** and then upgrade again to the next release???
[00:54] <genii> !ltsupgrade
[00:55] <genii> PCworker: After July 24, as indicated by the bot
[00:56] <f-recruiters> Can I hate IT recruiters any more?
[00:56] <PCworker> Ok
[00:57] <genii> f-recruiters: You probably want ##headhunters . This is #ubuntu
[00:57] <texla> How to add themes to unity-tweak-tool or to system settings>appearance in ubuntu-14.04
[01:01] <linuxuz3r> anyoone used vino here
[01:01] <f-recruiters> I wana hunt down headhutners and kill thier clan
[01:01] <f-recruiters> anyway 14.04 amd64 kinda nice but cant seem to get nginx to talk to php-fpm
[01:02] <f-recruiters> quite the bugger ofa problem
[01:03] <PCworker> Has anyone been successful in using the Netflix app with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS???
[01:04] <kostkon> PCworker, which one
[01:05] <PCworker> kostkon: I didn't know there was more than one available.
[01:05] <kostkon> PCworker, pipelight; the best option there is.
[01:06] <kostkon> PCworker, http://www.webupd8.org/2014/06/pipelight-027-brings-new-system-check.html
[01:07] <PCworker> kostkon: I will give that a look and see about it tonight.
[01:07] <kostkon> PCworker, ok
[01:08] <kostkon> PCworker, it's a browser plugin so it will work with other sites too
[01:09] <MuffinMedic> is UFW a good firewall to use for a VPS that acts as a web server and for ZNC?
[01:11] <mojtaba> Hi, I have installed recently byobu, but after pressing F8 I can not rename the window, and it just do nothing. Does anybody know what should I do?
[01:16] <PCworker> kostkon: thanks, I am installing it now.
[01:16] <kostkon> PCworker, np
[01:17] <texla> How to add themes to unity-tweak-tool or to system settings>appearance in ubuntu-14.04
[01:18] <f-recruiters> use iceWM
[01:18] <f-recruiters> :)
[01:18] <intok> What do I need if I want to get the Radeon VCE hardware transcoder working in 14.04?
[01:19] <f-recruiters> google
[01:19] <f-recruiters> bing
[01:19] <f-recruiters> duckduckgo.com
[01:20] <intok> f-recruiters checked, all it pulls up is Phoronix posts announcing that it works, not what has to be installed
[01:21] <f-recruiters> doh
[01:22] <f-recruiters> whats it do?
[01:23] <intok> f-recruiters does h.264 encoding on the GPU if you have a recent AMD GPU, which I have
[01:23] <intok> f-recruiters benefit is that it's very fast at it
[01:23] <f-recruiters> what that encoding do? make videos?
[01:24] <f-recruiters> make dvd?
[01:24] <ScottyK> greetings! How can I activate the "pause" button on my USB keyboard, so Ubuntu will stop playing music in Clementine when I press the pause button? thanks!
[01:24] <intok> f-recruiters takke any video source I want and transcode it into .h.264 with the quality parameters I set and do it stupid fast, much faster then the CPU can do
[01:26] <intok> f-recruiters like take the 20Gb of mpeg2 video from my DV camcorder and make it a 1-2Gb Youtube upload out of it in a not obscene amount of time
[01:26] <f-recruiters> whats best way to see megs /s going to each disk? iostat seems crappy
[01:27] <f-recruiters> woa
[01:27] <f-recruiters> covert to what mp4?
[01:27] <I_Do_Believe> ScottyK, With a little search I see a problem in this scenario with others.
[01:27] <f-recruiters> er convert
[01:27] <MuffinMedic> Any preferences or comments about what firewall to use? I currently have ufw
[01:28] <f-recruiters> handbook shows howto use firewall, and I hear pf is nice
[01:28] <f-recruiters> dotn know ufw
[01:28] <f-recruiters> I do know there are gui for some firewalls that rock
[01:29] <supergl> ufw is very simple, yet very effective
[01:32] <MuffinMedic> f-recruiters: VPS, i don't have a UI. it's all command line
[01:32] <f-recruiters> is ufw one of the 3 firewall freebsd uses?
[01:32] <f-recruiters> ah
[01:32] <f-recruiters> cool cool
[01:32] <MuffinMedic> f-recruiters: no it's a simple command line forntend for iptables
[01:32] <f-recruiters> oh cool
[01:33] <intok> f-recruiters .mp4 would be the most common output, but you can put h.264 video into any container file you like, I prefer .mkv
[01:33] <f-recruiters> it is a ubuntu thing?  check this out  http://www.fwbuilder.org/  you can use fwbuilder then it will move the config to a REMOTE BOX!!! AWESOME
[01:33] <f-recruiters> why is .mkv used if .mp4 is there?
[01:34] <f-recruiters> I notice a lot of my torrent movies are mkv and my player sees it
[01:34] <intok> f-recruiters multi audio/subtitle features
[01:34] <f-recruiters> just curious why avi or mp4 arent used instead..
[01:34] <f-recruiters> in mkv? oh interesting
[01:34] <vakna> I have a wireless usb trackball mouse, and all the buttons work, but the trackball sends no signal to x.
[01:34] <f-recruiters> I think I have a gpu but not sure its being used......how do I check?
[01:35] <vakna> xev has 0 output (input?) from it.
[01:35] <vakna> No drivers seem to exist, but I know there are trackball drivers for ubuntu...
[01:35] <vakna> Wouldn't they be similar enough to modify something and make it work?
[01:35] <f-recruiters> ] [drm] GART: num cpu pages 131072, num gpu pages 131072 (from dmesg)
[01:36] <holstein> vakna: i would test the hardware in that scnario, on a supported operating sytem with supported drivers.. sounds more like the optics are bad
[01:36] <vakna> It works on windows.
[01:36] <intok> f-recruiters I take it you don't watch much outside of your native tung, this is where the open source video tools absolutely kill the closed source stuff, just check any anime site, even if they are using h.264 video, they are still using oss containers and oss tools to do the conversion
[01:37] <holstein> vakna: then, the device should be fine.. ask them for linux support
[01:37] <vakna> They don't seem to have an official webpage.
[01:37] <vakna> yumouse y-10
[01:37] <vakna> lsusb id 7545:109a
[01:38] <f-recruiters> link to good anime site? I loved one called cutry hony I saw one time
[01:38] <f-recruiters> great art
[01:38] <f-recruiters> :)
[01:38] <f-recruiters> I really need to get more international
[01:39] <vakna> I'm alright with the idea of using the windows driver, but I don't see anything that is close to that idea except ndiswrapper, and though it's wireless, I don't think it's quite the same.
[01:40] <vakna> But afaik it uses 802.11g
[01:40] <holstein> vakna: why would you be able to use the windows driver?
[01:40] <holstein> ndiswrapper is only for wifi drivers..
[01:40] <vakna> Not directly, but I thought there might be something similar to ndiswrapper for it.
[01:40] <vakna> Right, but it does use 802.11 signals.
[01:41] <holstein> vakna: not that im aware of, but nothing is preventing the manufacturer from supporting linux
[01:41] <vakna> Is it not reasonable to try to modify the source for another trackball?
[01:42] <holstein> vakna: sure.. but its not for the device
[01:42] <vakna> I don't understand.
[01:43] <holstein> vakna: why would it support your device?
[01:43] <darkxploit> helo..
[01:43] <vakna> Why wouldn't it? Everything is a signal, right?
[01:43] <darkxploit> hey guys an idea how to add a user by giving it permission to perform root on same command
[01:44] <genii> darkxploit: That question is confusing. Can you explain in a better manner?
[01:45] <holstein> vakna: i mean, its a device, and the device manufacturer would be responsible for the support.. modifying some other devices code would alsa take some hacking and work and may not provide support for the device
[01:45] <darkxploit> i want to add a user and give the user access to perform root action
[01:45] <holstein> darkbasic: you shoudnt. you should use sudo
[01:45] <holstein> !sudo
[01:46] <vakna> holstein, I get that they should develop support for it, but I don't expect them to, and I definitely don't feel like waiting for that to happen.
[01:46] <holstein> darkbasic: you can add a user from the command line or in the GUI https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto and give it sudo privs
[01:46] <intok> f-recruiters well I don't have any recent reviews of the GPU's dedicated transcoding chip compared to CPU encoding, as it's been years since I looked into it, but back when I did it showed that the $120 at the time HD4670 was about 4x as fast as intel's fastest $1200 CPUs using multicore rendering of the same video file and settings, the only thing was that the GPU decoder was limited in settings range and the video wasn't as 
[01:46] <holstein> vakna: you'll have to expect them to, though.. they are the ones responsible for it
[01:46] <darkxploit> holstein, how do to that in the command line
[01:47] <holstein> darkxploit: sudo adduser
[01:47] <vakna> They don't even have a website.
[01:47] <holstein> vakna: ok.. then, the device may not support linux
[01:47] <xXx> darkexploit
[01:47] <xXx> u have a funny nick
[01:47] <darkxploit> holstein, how to give it rights to perform root actions?
[01:47] <vakna> That appears to be the case, but someone would have to write it. That means there's a method that could be used to accept the input.
[01:47] <holstein> vakna: i know i usually just try live CDs and see what works out of the box and go from there.. otherwise, there is nothing ubuntu is doing to prevent it from working
[01:47] <xXx> sudo
[01:48] <xXx> before the cmd
[01:48] <vakna> I don't blame ubuntu.
[01:48] <xXx> do : man sudo
[01:48] <vakna> I guess I should have clarified that, but I'm asking in ubuntu because there isn't a "misc linux drivers" channel.
[01:48] <holstein> darkxploit: the link i gave https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto has how to add users to groups. such as sudo
[01:49] <holstein> vakna: ok.. ubuntu is ready to support your device. there is nothing it is doing to prevent support.. but, there is little it can do to facilitate support
[01:54] <tracyone> can Lubuntu install the gtk3 theme?
[02:00] <linuxuz3r> what is the development meta package?
[02:02] <linuxuz3r> nvm
[02:05] <f-recruiters> I don't reccomend devops.
[02:05] <f-recruiters> buy fewer machines and learn to use name based vhosts and raid 10 sas or zfs mirrors
[02:08] <f-recruiters> how get ia32-libs on ubuntu?
[02:10] <supergl> f-recruiters: add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring main restricted universe multiverse" to your etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[02:11] <supergl> And then you can just install it via "sudo apt-get install ia32-libs"
[02:11] <supergl> Ah, don't forget to "apt-get update" before that ;)
[02:11] <f-recruiters> does the name of the file containing that string matter? in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ?
[02:12] <f-recruiters> also I am on trusty do i change raring to trusty?
[02:13] <supergl> yes, sorry
[02:13] <supergl> I actually copypasted that, so it's outdated
[02:14] <SierraAR> supergl: Hasnt the name for the ia32-libs thing changed to something else?
[02:14] <f-recruiters> has it?
[02:15] <supergl> SierraAR: really?
[02:15] <SierraAR> Or is ia32-libs what it changed to.. Idk, there was something about 32 bit library package names being changed somewhere between 10.04 and 12.04 that threw me off when I was looking things up a couple years ago
[02:15] <somsip> !find ia32
[02:15] <m1dnight_> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23182765/how-to-install-ia32-libs-in-ubuntu-14-04-lts
[02:15] <m1dnight_> this answer worked for me yesterday :)
[02:16] <m1dnight_> my x86 asm code compiles fine
[02:16] <supergl> Regardless, @f-recruiters: The file should have the .list extension
[02:17] <f-recruiters> http://askubuntu.com/questions/107230/what-happened-to-the-ia32-libs-package  stabs self
[02:17] <f-recruiters> ah yes I just fixed it to x.list
[02:17] <f-recruiters> and it stays raring apprently
[02:17] <f-recruiters> heh woo wee
[02:18] <supergl> Sometimes aptitude is just so confusing about its packages
[02:18] <supergl> still better than pacman ;)
[02:19] <f-recruiters> bah!!
[02:19] <f-recruiters> pacman is the goodnss
[02:19] <f-recruiters> pkgng not bad either
[02:19] <f-recruiters> I can't believe www.aidaweb.si is 32bit, it is very advanced appserver and uses lovely smalltalk
[02:20] <m1dnight_> Site is not loading for me :(
[02:21] <SierraAR> Being that im on a train's wifi... XD
[02:22] <supergl> f-recruiters: in my opinion, pacman sucks, but well... opinions differ
[02:23] <f-recruiters> rpms suck to be, pacman has never bent me over
[02:23] <f-recruiters> er
[02:23] <f-recruiters> rpms suck to me
[02:23] <f-recruiters> www.prevayler.org this project to me is still exciting
[02:24] <somsip> f-recruiters: can you take the off topic chat to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[02:26] <samuelkadolph> I'm trying to configure wifi from the command line in 14.04. sudo iwlist scan shows the networks but sudo nmcli dev wifi list is empty. Anyone know why nmcli wouldn't see any of the networks?
[02:26] <xXx> http://bit.ly/1iCCW1t
[02:27] <jtraktor> angga
[02:28] <OerHeks> is there a bit.ly checker ?
[02:28] <supergl> OerHeks: Its a youtube link
[02:29] <OerHeks> supergl, thanks
[02:30] <mojtaba> Hi, Do I need to create keys if I want to ssh from Mac to Ubuntu? Or can I just enter command ssh user@ubuntu-ip from mac?
[02:31] <mojtaba> I tried the last one but nothing happens. Do you know what should I do?
[02:31] <xXx> sudo service sshd start
[02:31] <xXx> set NAT on router
[02:31] <somsip> mojtaba: depends if ubuntu allows password auth via ssh or not, but I believe it does by default
[02:31] <xXx> and then u can connect
[02:32] <mojtaba> somsip: how can I check that? xXx: They are on both LAN, should I set NAT?
[02:32] <somsip> mojtaba: look at /etc/ssh/sshd_config (from memory) on the ubuntu server.
[02:33] <xXx> yes mojtaba
[02:33] <xXx> set nat for LAN
[02:40] <daftykins> mojtaba: you may need to use "ssh ubuntu-IP -u username" depending on the way macs work
[02:43] <f-recruiters> people still use macs?
[02:44] <f-recruiters> iceWM and linux desktop baby!!
[02:44] <f-recruiters> aw yeah
[02:44] <f-recruiters> laptops are so 70s
[02:44] <SierraAR> f-recruiters: I'm on a laptop right now :(
[02:44] <f-recruiters> no one with  a laptop ge tmuch work done
[02:44] <f-recruiters> desktop is where real work gets done
[02:45] <SierraAR> I honestly get more work done on my laptop than my desktop. Mostly because my laptopcant run games. XD
[02:48] <daftykins> f-recruiters: again, please drop the off topic chatter.
[02:50] <ouyes> after succesfully installed LUBUNTU 14.04, I can't boot into my system, the boot process stop at the login screen, the login screen is flashing, I can't see anything but just two flashing white windows. so Anybody can help me about this?
[02:54] <Arkeus6> Is there a spotify ad blocker on linux?
[02:55] <I_Do_Believe> ouyes, Have you logged in since the install yet?
[02:55] <The0x539> Arkeus6: Is spotify anything but a website?
[02:55] <Arkeus6> I think the client came before the web version
[02:59] <ouyes> I_Do_Believe, no sire
[02:59] <ouyes> I_Do_Believe, no sir
[02:59] <The0x539> I didn't know spotify HAD a client
[02:59] <The0x539> I never use it :(
[02:59] <The0x539> sorry, no clue
[02:59] <I_Do_Believe> !nomodeset | ouyes try this
[02:59] <ouyes> I_Do_Believe, that is the most frastrating part
[03:00] <ouyes> I_Do_Believe, I already tried that, made no difference
[03:00] <lulz> Hello there can anyone maybe help me out?
[03:01] <The0x539> Just state your question/problem
[03:01] <lulz> I am having difficulties with the WINE windows program loader
[03:01] <I_Do_Believe> ouyes, Did the install go with no problems? What is the chip speed and ram amount?
[03:01]  * The0x539 headdesks
[03:01] <The0x539> lulz: continue
[03:01] <lulz> Everytime I try to open an .exe program it shows it loading for about 3 seconds
[03:01] <lulz> then nothing happens
[03:02] <ouyes> I_Do_Believe, when I tried to install with the desktop edition, the install stopped at the user password setup, the screen flashed. so I tried alternative edition, the installation was fine
[03:03] <ouyes> but I couldn't boot in
[03:03] <ouyes> I_Do_Believe, the chip is ati rage pro
[03:04] <I_Do_Believe> ouyes, Are you sure the computer is up for hardware wise for this install, the minimal needed and do you know the graphic hardware?
[03:05] <ouyes> I_Do_Believe, yes sir, I think so,  Rage LT Pro is a good VGA card, Lubuntu is light weighted
[03:06] <I_Do_Believe> ouyes, Are you sure you ran the nomodeset option correctly?
[03:06] <ouyes> I_Do_Believe, it ran windows xp without any problem
[03:06] <I_Do_Believe> how did you do it?
[03:06] <ouyes> I_Do_Believe, press shit, press e, type in nomodeset and hit ctrl+x
[03:06] <lulz> Everytime i try to open a .exe program on windows with Wine windows program loader it shows it loading then stops and nothing happens...... Can anyone help me?
[03:06] <ouyes> I_Do_Believe, sorry, shift
[03:07] <lulz> on kali linux my bad
[03:07] <I_Do_Believe> ouyes, I am not sure beyond these questions.
[03:07] <ouyes> I_Do_Believe, was that correct
[03:07] <BlackBird_> i think i should go to learn english
[03:08] <ouyes> I_Do_Believe, press shift, grub menu, press 'e', then edit, add nomodeset and ctrl + x, boot
[03:08] <I_Do_Believe> ouyes, If typed in the correct place yes, the link shows how, there is a safe x boot in recovery you might try it.
[03:08] <ouyes> I_Do_Believe, no difference was made
[03:08] <ouyes> I_Do_Believe, recovery mode I tried
[03:09] <ouyes> I_Do_Believe, I did boot into recovery mode, and I chose normal boot, then screen flashes
[03:10] <ouyes> I_Do_Believe, I delete quite splash, and replace it with nomodeset
[03:11] <I_Do_Believe> ouyes, That is all I know, maybe others can help.
[03:12] <ouyes> I_Do_Believe, OK, thanks a lot
[03:19] <zipc> I'm trying to replace nouveau by following these instructions http://www.binarytides.com/install-nvidia-drivers-ubuntu-14-04  but for some reasons, it still uses nouveau instead of nvidia driver.  maybe im missing something?
[03:26] <Bashing-om> zivester: Witch are you trying ( 3 methods given) .. supported is "Additional Drivers", what does Additional drivers relate for available drivers ?
[03:27] <Bashing-om> zipc: ^^ .. zivester sorry bout hightlighting you.
[03:28] <Semor> I have ported my 32 bit programe tp 64bits OS ,it usually corrupted and dump a core file
[03:28] <Semor> how do I find the reason for that ?
[03:29] <zipc> i'm using the sudo apt-get install nvidia-340
[03:31] <Bashing-om> zipc: did you verify wiht the Nvidia web site that the 340 driver is the correct driver for your card ? -- what does 'Additional Driver's relate for available drivers ?
[03:36] <ouyes> Is there anybody know how to get ati 3d rage lt pro VGA card working?
[03:40] <zipc> Bashing-om:  i installed the wrong driver, should be nvidia-331
[03:43] <Megabyte> Hello again, guys
[03:44] <Bashing-om> zipc: I would suggest purging what ever Nvidia driver or portion that is installed at this time -> sudo apt-get purge nvidia* <- .
[03:44] <zipc> Bashing-om:  then install the right driver?
[03:45] <SierraAR> Is there a way to get a list of all installed packages that did not come with my ubuntu install? I.e. everything I've installed since I installed ubuntu
[03:45] <Megabyte> zipc, proprietary Nvidia drivers?
[03:45] <Megabyte> Get lost
[03:45] <Megabyte> Noveau is so much better!
[03:46] <Megabyte> It's Newvaeu!
[03:46] <SierraAR> Isnt that new in another language?
[03:46] <somsip> !clone | SierraAR (part of this answer applies)
[03:46] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[03:47] <somsip> !automate
[03:47] <somsip> SierraAR: ignore that last one. Wrong factoid
[03:47] <SierraAR> !software package "apt-clone"
[03:47] <SierraAR> Lol, I figured that was an information command too. Oh well
[03:47] <Megabyte> SierraAR, I'm sure it is :D
[03:48] <lotuspsychje> !info apt-clone | SierraAR
[03:48] <somsip> SierraAR: you need http://serverfault.com/questions/133681/generating-a-list-of-installed-packages-in-ubuntu
[03:48] <Bashing-om> zipc: Then make sure there is nothing residual -> dpkg -l  | grep nvidia <- .. Then highly reommended to use the driver reomended by 'Additional Drivers' utility// then if there are problems, go to outside menad ( there will then be overhead to be concerned with).
[03:48] <somsip> SierraAR: a factoid used to have similar information on it, but I can't find it now
[03:49] <jtraktor> ls
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> somsip: wich one are you looking for?
[03:49] <Bashing-om> menad/means*
[03:49] <zipc> Bashing-om: i purged nvidia*
[03:50] <SierraAR> somsip: Thanks, bookmarked for later use
[03:51] <Bashing-om> zipc: Purge is good, now the 'dpkg -l' result ?
[03:51] <zipc> dpkg -l | grep nvidia  results nothing
[03:52] <Bashing-om> zipc: Outstanding .. I say again //best to see what is in Additional Drivers - if ya want to try a proprietary driver.
[03:53] <zipc> Bashing-om: lspci -vnn | grep -i VGA -A 12  ...  Kernel driver in use: nouveau
[03:54] <Bashing-om> zipc: "additional Drivers" will take care of all the details to install the proprietary driver.
[03:55] <zipc> Bashing-om: additional drivers now pointing to Nouveau
[03:57] <Bashing-om> zipc: Sheesshh // Ok maybe there is no proprietary driver for that card (legacy ??).. what card is it .. and have you verified the driver/card with the Nvidia site ?
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> for those who are interested, indicator-multiload updated to 0.4: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/06/system-monitor-indicator-ubuntu-ppa
[04:01] <zipc> Bashing-om: nvidia-340, nvidia-304, nvidia-334, nvidia-173, nvidia-304-updates, nvidia-337
[04:02] <zipc> those are the additional drivers
[04:03] <Bosi> Hello Everyone! I'm trying to install Xubuntu 14.04 in my sister's pc, and I'm facing this problem. The bootable USB (created 1st with Unetbootin and then UniversalUSBInstaller/Win) didn't boot. It was showing this message: No DEFAULT or UI configuration directive found... I did some research and saw that I should rename the folder and files isolinux to syslinux. Didn't work...
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> !usb | Bosi
[04:04] <Bosi> Then I saw that I should use an USB formated to FAT16. I tried: sudo mkdosfs -F16 -n XUBUNTU /dev/sdb1 and this appeared: WARNING: Not enough clusters for a 16 bit FAT! The filesystem will be misinterpreted as having a 12 bit FAT without mount option "fat=16". mkdosfs: Attempting to create a too large filesystem
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> Bosi: you have another ubuntu box to create the usb from?
[04:04] <Bosi> Now I'm stuck.
[04:05] <Bashing-om> zipc: That is what "additional drivers" is showing ? // then install one of them from the AD utility . OK ??
[04:05] <Bosi> lotuspsychje, sorry?
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> Bosi: do you have another ubuntu computer, to create your xubuntu usb stick?
[04:06] <Bashing-om> zipc: The great thing about instaling from the AD utility, one can easily switch drivers, no sweat.
[04:06] <zipc> Bashing-om: i tried but it's showing 'Nouveau' in terminal.  or do i still need to reboot the machine
[04:07] <jtraktor> hey, how to join another chat room ? *newbie here
[04:07] <Bashing-om> zipc: Yeah .. that is easiest .. or restart the xserver.
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> jtraktor: type /join #chatroom
[04:07] <jtraktor> thanks /lotuspsychje
[04:07] <Bosi> lotuspsychje, well I used Unetbootin from my netbook to create the USB... it boots fine in my netbook. Then I created from another software, this time for Windows... same thing.
[04:08] <lotuspsychje> Bosi: does your windows pc have uefi?
[04:10] <Bosi> lotuspsychje, I have no idea. but I saw that some people solved this issue formating their flashdrive to FAT16... which I tried and an error occurred. Did I do anything wrong?
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> Bosi: but you say, you tested your usb stick on your netbook and boots fine?
[04:11] <jtraktor> lotuspsychje, thanks again
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> jtraktor: np
[04:11] <Bosi> lotuspsychje, yes.
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> Bosi: so it must be some issue with the other pc's bios maybe
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> Bosi: check if its set to boot usb first, and secureboot off
[04:12] <Bosi> It starts to boot from USB, but this message appears: No DEFAULT or UI configuration directive found
[04:13] <linuxuz3r> anyone used wireshark before
[04:14] <Bosi> lotuspsychje, this is the problem: http://www.geekzground.com/index/?p=27
[04:14] <linuxuz3r> can you capture traffic from compA to compB using wireshark
[04:14] <linuxuz3r> they are both connected to the same wireless router
[04:14] <DrakkenWarr> I use wireshark all the time
[04:15] <linuxuz3r> DrakkenWarr, how do i capture the traffic of a router
[04:15] <Bosi> lotuspsychje, some people said here that using the USB formated as FAT16 instead of FAT32 might work when the computer is old: http://askubuntu.com/questions/329704/syslinux-no-default-or-ui-configuration-directive-found
[04:15] <daftykins> linuxuz3r: why's the *actual* task?
[04:15] <daftykins> *what's
[04:15] <linuxuz3r> spy on my brother
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> Bosi: what line did you change your bios to? USB/ZIP?
[04:15] <Bosi> lotuspsychje, but I had an error when I tried to format for fat16. (WARNING: Not enough clusters for a 16 bit FAT! The filesystem will be misinterpreted as having a 12 bit FAT without mount option "fat=16". mkdosfs: Attempting to create a too large filesystem)
[04:15] <linuxuz3r> DrakkenWarr, ?
[04:16] <linuxuz3r> daftykins, do you know how to?
[04:16] <daftykins> linuxuz3r: the scope of this channel is support, nefarious activity with siblings is not part of that. :)
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> linuxuz3r: try #wireshark
[04:17] <Bosi> lotuspsychje, it reads the USB, I didn't have to change anything... just this error appears.
[04:18] <linuxuz3r> ok
[04:18] <zipc> Bashing-om: thanks!
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> Bosi: how do you know if usb boots correctly, if xubuntu doesnt load?
[04:19] <Cerratux> hello everyone.
[04:20] <Bashing-om> zipc: Good deal .. we can rest in peace then ?
[04:20] <Bosi> lotuspsychje, it says, booting from USB... then it gets stuck with that error. Also, dozens of people that I found on internet had the exact same problem.
[04:20] <holstein> Bosi: it needs to do more that just reaad the usb. you can dd copy the iso's to the stick.. i have no issuse with fat32 and unetbootin.. have you confirmed the stick booting on other hardware?
[04:21] <Cerratux> can someone recommend me a website to download .deb packages with all it dependences.
[04:21] <Cerratux> please
[04:21] <Bosi> holstein, yup. In my netbook it works fine.
[04:21] <BloodSkin> doing "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" on a vps and i timed out at "Adding 'diversion of /usr/share/gnome-mahjongg/themes/postmodern.svg to /usr/share/gnome-mahjongg/themes/postmodern.svg.unbranded by branding-ubuntu'". should i try installing again or should i just redo the image and try again
[04:21] <daftykins> Cerratux: what's the scenario?
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> Bosi: can you choose FAT also beside FAT16 and FAT32?
[04:22] <holstein> Bosi: so, its not the stick then.. friend.. you should look inthe bios.. try other USB ports. look into the hardware.. of the stick is good, its good..
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> Bosi: maybe the old pc doesnt like FAT16 either
[04:22] <Cerratux> well i have a few computers with no access to the internet
[04:22] <Bosi> holstein, as I searched on internet, the common causes of this problem are: isolinux/syslinux rename; corrupted ISO file; softwares to create the USB; and FAT16/32. I only wasn't able to try the last one.
[04:22] <Cerratux> i would like to install the packages manually
[04:22] <zipc> Bashing-om: yes, : )
[04:23] <Cerratux> but without the problem of dependences
[04:23] <daftykins> Cerratux: run the update on one connected, then keep all the packages in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[04:23] <Bashing-om> zipc: :D
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> Bosi: can you burn cd's?
[04:24] <holstein> Bosi: sure.. but its not corrupted if it works .. the stick works, you say.. so its not corrupted.. thus, not fitting the scenario you are finding online
[04:24] <Cerratux> thank you
[04:24] <Bosi> lotuspsychje holstein, is there any way for me to make a 8GB become fat16? I tried sudo mkdosfs -F16 -n XUBUNTU /dev/sdb1 and it didn't work
[04:24] <Cerratux> is the best way.
[04:24] <Cerratux> hey Bosi
[04:24] <holstein> Bosi: fat32 works for me and unetbootin.. have you tried dd copy?
[04:25] <Cerratux> unetbootin have a bug
[04:25] <Bosi> holstein, apparently the fat32 thing is only an issue for old computers.My netbook works fine with 32 as well.
[04:26] <Bosi> lotuspsychje, the DVD drive isn't working very well...
[04:26] <holstein> Bosi: on my old computers, i use what they "like" to boot.. cd's
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> Bosi: can you create a cd with 'plop boot manager' and then load your xubuntu usb stick from there
[04:26] <holstein> !Mini
[04:26] <lagbox> where can i get my hands on chromium 35 ?
[04:26] <holstein> Bosi: if the machine cant boot the stick, then it cant boot it.. the stick is good and the machine is not booting it.. its not an issue with the stick
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> !info chromium-browser
[04:27] <ouyes> I_Do_Believe, hi
[04:27] <I_Do_Believe> ouyes, yes
[04:27] <Bosi> holstein, according to several people that had the same exact problem, it can be.
[04:27] <ouyes> I_Do_Believe, Finally I boot into the system
[04:27] <ouyes> I_Do_Believe, it's great
[04:27] <I_Do_Believe> ouyes, Good, what was the issue?
[04:28] <ouyes> I_Do_Believe, only 70MiB was used
[04:28] <holstein> Bosi: ok.. according to me, i disagree, and i suggest its a waste of time to try and "fix" the stick when its booting fine on other hardware
[04:28] <calcmandan> i'm looking for something that'll move my mouse pointer to 2-3 designated locations on my screen and done so within specific periods of time. anyone have a good cl tool that'll do this?
[04:28] <holstein> Bosi: i say, save some time and burn a CD
[04:28] <I_Do_Believe> ouyes, 70MiB of what?
[04:28] <lagbox> and how about a newer version
[04:29] <holstein> lagbox: newer versions will just come in as available.. you can use ppa's
[04:29] <holstein> !ppa
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> calcmandan: you want mousepointer move automatic few times a day?
[04:29] <holstein> lagbox: for example.. http://www.webupd8.org/2014/02/how-to-install-chromium-beta-or-dev.html
[04:29] <Bosi> holstein, haha I did burn a DVD from that old pc, I didn't work well... I'll burn from another pc and see if it works. But check this out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1583344 there are people saying that the fat16 thing worked for them.
[04:29] <ouyes> I_Do_Believe, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg#Getting_started
[04:29] <holstein> !mini | Bosi
[04:30] <ouyes> I_Do_Believe, I added a file
[04:30] <lagbox> thank you
[04:30] <ouyes> I_Do_Believe, the system only use 70Mib RAM
[04:30] <holstein> Bosi: thats what i would use on older hardware.. a cd. the mini cd
[04:30] <calcmandan> lotuspsychje: few times a second
[04:30] <I_Do_Believe> ouyes, sounds about right
[04:30] <calcmandan> lotuspsychje: about 10 minute increments.
[04:30] <holstein> Bosi: is the "Fat 16 thing" working for you? i say, the stick eithier boots or not..
[04:31] <holstein> Bosi: regardless, if you are seeking a smaller iso, the mini is quite small you can try that from the fat16 partition
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> !info xdotool | calcmandan maybe this?
[04:31] <calcmandan> lotuspsychje: been using xdotool to control the mouse button, but i also need the mouse to go back & forth between 2-3 locations. ifigure i'd have to input xy coords.
[04:31] <Bosi> holstein, I don't know if the fat16 works or not. I don't have a small flashdrive here... when I tried to format a 8GB flashdrive to fat16 and error ocurred: "WARNING: Not enough clusters for a 16 bit FAT! The filesystem will be misinterpreted as having a 12 bit FAT without mount option "fat=16". mkdosfs: Attempting to create a too large filesystem"
[04:32] <holstein> Bosi: they reference a smaller partition, friend
[04:32] <Bosi> holstein, but I'll definitely try the mini CD
[04:32] <daftykins> Bosi: 2GB was the old max for FAT16
[04:32] <holstein> Bosi: you should be able to make smaller partitons on that larger stick.. though, i would rather put a fork in my eye.. if my machine boots cd's, i already have one burned and booting..
[04:33] <ouyes> I_Do_Believe, thanks again
[04:34]  * lotuspsychje reccomends plop boot manager for older pc's to boot usb sticks normally
[04:34] <holstein> yup.. i like plop as well
[04:34] <Bosi> holstein, ha that's where I got stuck in the fat16 thing. I don't know how to make those partitions... anyway... I'll go give it a try on the mini CD. The DVD didn't work when I tried though.
[04:34] <holstein> Bosi: try plop ^
[04:34] <jtraktor> #opensrp
[04:34] <holstein> Bosi: i literally havent used anything else in years.. when i have an issue, i get plop. if that doesnt work, i give the hardware away
[04:34] <Bosi> holstein, plop?
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> jtraktor: you forgot /join
[04:35] <holstein> Bosi: http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/index.html
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> calcmandan: what about this one: http://www.murguu.com/
[04:37] <calcmandan> lotuspsychje: looking now.
[04:37] <Bosi> lotuspsychje holstein, oh, that looks great. I'll definitely give it a try
[04:39] <Bosi> lotuspsychje holstein, thanks for your help! I'll try it tomorrow morning and let you know if it worked! Have a good night!
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> Bosi: cheers
[04:42] <jtraktor> hehe, thanks lotuspsychje
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> holstein: do you know howto debug lightdm.log to see whats lagging from login ==> desktop boot?
[05:08] <hunt> Hi #ubuntu! Im trying to update my catalyst drivers because some apps are crashing without the latest drivers, but im having a tough time. The wiki guide says to remove them first (http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Oneiric_Installation_Guide#Removing_Catalyst.2Ffglrx)
[05:08] <hunt> but when i follow their guide for removing, then run the install script, it says it hasnt been removed
[05:08] <hunt> please help! no one else seems to have this problem
[05:10] <hunt> is anyone familiar with this stuff?
[05:12] <calcmandan> lotuspsychje: thank you. this is EXACTLY what i'm looking for. props
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> !yay | calcmandan
[05:14] <hunt> i literally hate this so much
[05:14] <hunt> why is it so difficult to install drivers?
[05:15] <hunt> why is it so difficult to *uninstall* drivers
[05:25] <AlecTaylor> hi
[05:26] <SierraAR> Hi
[05:26] <AlecTaylor> My new Ubuntu laptop just shutdown in the middle of my work. Nothing in syslog. Where else do I look?
[05:28] <wheatthin> AlecTaylor, you can try looking into dmesg and
[05:28] <wheatthin> checking your sensors
[05:28] <wheatthin> by install lm-sensors and checking the temps
[05:28] <wheatthin> More than likely, if it just randomly shut off, (and it was the only thing to do so) then you were overheating
[05:28] <AlecTaylor> wheatthin: It's a brand-new Kudu-17
[05:29] <AlecTaylor> Well, maybe 3 months old
[05:29] <wheatthin> AlecTaylor, doesn't stop it from overheating..
[05:29] <AlecTaylor> Well I expected better quality
[05:29] <AlecTaylor> Trying lm-sensors
[05:29] <wheatthin> check lm-sensors and see if the heatsync was seated right by checking temperatures of each core
[05:30] <wheatthin> they should be the same across the board
[05:30] <AlecTaylor> $ lm-sensors lm-sensors: command not found$ lm-sensors lm-sensors: command not found$ lm-sensors
[05:30] <AlecTaylor> lm-sensors: command not found
[05:31] <wheatthin> .sudo apt-get install lm-sensors
[05:31] <AlecTaylor> What's the command once it's installed?
[05:31] <wheatthin> then afterwards type "sensors"
[05:31] <AlecTaylor> It's all in the 43°C-46°C range
[05:32] <mahmoud1> Hello, I just bought a MacBook Air and I installed ubuntu on it. but I have a problem with the wifi. It freezes often, however, it doesnt disconnect. Any one can help me? by the way I am new to IRC, so execuse me if I don't know the way of asking questions :)
[05:33] <wheatthin> a 3 degree range on the same processor is shifty
[05:35] <wheatthin> mahmoud1, don't fret, someone will help with your wifi question if they get some more info.. how often does it cut out? and might if it might be related to power/suspend/sleep
[05:36] <wheatthin> sorry buzzed, and still trying to help
[05:36] <mahmoud1> hey, thanks for replying. Actually it just freezes every 5 mins or so for about 30-60 secs and then internet is good again. I checked the power management and it was off
[05:37] <ztane> anyone familiar with flash crashes, I had 2 yrs ago, now with firefox can't play any video on youtube anymore - crash in 2 seconds...
[05:37] <ztane> back in days it had soemthing to do with video acceleration I guess (nvidia here)
[05:38] <wheatthin> mahmoud1, hmm have you checked any current outages in your neighborhood? I've noticed some in mine recently, and I'm hardwired
[05:39] <wheatthin> ztane, which graphics drivers do you have installed.. most of the flash will be buggy until decent graphics acceleration is applied
[05:39] <mahmoud1> I have a dual boot on my MBA .. on MaxOSX the wireless works perfectly, so I suppose this has something to do with ubuntu. Maybe the driver or something
[05:40] <wheatthin> Hmmm mahmoud1 did you check dmesg to see if there was any problems with kernel related driver?
[05:40] <mahmoud1> yeah I have some errors when I run dmesg: [Mon Jun 16 23:56:57 2014] ERROR @wl_dev_intvar_get : error (-1)
[05:40] <mahmoud1> [Mon Jun 16 23:56:57 2014] ERROR @wl_cfg80211_get_tx_power : error (-1)
[05:41] <wheatthin> mahmoud1, if you can use pastebin so we can see the whole output without accidently flooding
[05:41] <Aaraigathor> ztane: Firefox for Linux (Ubuntu included) doesn't support the latest flash (version 12 I think is the latest you can get) and adobe has stated they are no longer supporting Flash for Firefox on Linux. The only option is to get Chrome or Chromium to have the latest Flash on Linux using the pepperflash plugin
[05:42] <wheatthin> but regular flash play 12 does work on ubuntu 14.04 and chrome/chromium
[05:42] <wheatthin> player*
[05:42] <amrita22> join ##qstp-noop
[05:42] <Aaraigathor> ztane: However, unless someone else knows a way, Chrome no longer supports Java for Linux. So it presents a problem on both ends
[05:43] <Aaraigathor> Latest flash works on chrome/chromium, but only version 12 for Firefox, which can cause crashing in some programs that require newer flash
[05:45] <wheatthin> Aaraigathor, http://askubuntu.com/questions/155852/installing-chrome-java-plugin
[05:45] <Aaraigathor> Having an ongoing issue with my computer running Ubuntu 14.04. Really need some help here. My cursor periodically goes invisible, usually while using the terminal or while watching videos with VLC, althought it has happened in the browser too. Most often happens from using terminal, almost every time. It is not possible to recover cursor without reboot or restarting lightdm. Cursor is still usable, however invisible. Tried changi
[05:45] <loa> i forgot what package pulseaudio settings?
[05:46] <loa> something like pulseaudiocfg
[05:46] <loa> or something.
[05:46] <Aaraigathor> wheatthin : Icedtea no longer works on latest Chrome, that's an old post. I tried just last week
[05:46] <mahmoud1> wheatthin: Here is the link of dmesg http://pastebin.com/9F9pqXYf
[05:47] <ztane> wheatthin: nvidia.ko, 304.88
[05:48] <ztane> Aaraigathor: dunno, it is just this machine with nvidia+kubuntu that seems to be crashing, and on playing videos
[05:49] <ztane> so looks like it is an accelerated video decoding bug again...
[05:51] <ztane> plugin-container: ../../src/xcb_io.c:274: poll_for_event: Assertion `!xcb_xlib_threads_sequence_lost' failed.
[05:51] <ztane> hmm
[05:51] <Aaraigathor> Really need some help here, running Ubuntu 14.04 My cursor periodically goes invisible, usually while using the terminal or while watching videos with VLC, althought it has happened in the browser too. Most often happens from using terminal, almost every time. It is not possible to recover cursor without reboot or restarting lightdm. Cursor is still usable, however invisible. Tried changing mice and usb ports, no luck
[05:52] <wheatthin> mahmoud1, is this a broadcom device?
[05:53] <wheatthin> Aaraigathor, it shouldn't be disappearing if you have proprietary drivers installed
[05:54] <ztane> Aaraigathor, wheatthin: yeap, /etc/adobe/mms.cfg <- OverrideGPUValidation=false EnableLinuxHWVideoDecode=0 and videos work again...
[05:54] <mahmoud1> wheatthin: yes
[05:54] <Aaraigathor> wheatthin Graphics drivers you're talking? Or USB drivers?
[05:57] <safi> tariq
[05:57] <mahmoud1> wheatthin: 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4360 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter (rev 03)
[06:05] <Aaraigathor> Really need some help here, running Ubuntu 14.04 My cursor periodically goes invisible, usually while using the terminal or while watching videos with VLC, althought it has happened in the browser too. Most often happens from using terminal, almost every time. It is not possible to recover cursor without reboot or restarting lightdm. Cursor is still usable, however invisible. Tried changing mice and usb ports, no luck
[06:08] <tenstormavi__> hello, anyone here can help me with apache?
[06:21] <makara> tenstormavi__: ask your question
[06:43] <GuppyMan> Can anyone help walk me through how to install a driver through this git repo? http://git.linuxtv.org/cgit.cgi/media_tree.git/about/
[06:44] <SierraAR> GuppyMan: What OS is this for?
[06:44] <GuppyMan> SierraAR: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS is what I am running
[06:45] <SierraAR> Disregard that, for some reason thought this was #freenode and was going to direct you to an OS specific channel xD
[06:45] <SierraAR> Sadly I don't know enough to help with this :(
[06:45] <GuppyMan> oh lol
[06:45] <GuppyMan> Thank you anyway. :)
[06:45] <Ben64> GuppyMan: what card is this for
[06:46] <GuppyMan> Ben64: Pinnacle 800i http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Pinnacle_PCTV_HD_Card_%28800i%29
[06:48] <Ben64> GuppyMan: can you pastebin "dmesg" and "lspci"
[06:49] <GuppyMan> Ben64: Sure one sec.
[06:51] <GuppyMan> Ben64: dmesg: http://pastebin.com/EWALqWdb
[06:52] <GuppyMan> Ben64: lspci http://pastebin.com/Uq91sDye
[06:52] <GuppyMan> Ben64: Oh, I think it might have cut the first part off of dmesg, at the top I don't see the line where the command was run.
[06:52] <Ben64> GuppyMan: check line 98 in your dmesg pastebin, looks like it's working fine
[06:53] <GuppyMan> Ben64: Still not showing up in tvheadend strangely...
[06:54] <Ben64> dunno what that is
[06:55] <GuppyMan> Ben64: It's a linux tv streaming server
[06:55] <GuppyMan> Ben64: https://tvheadend.org/
[06:56] <GuppyMan> Ben64: Perhaps I should try seeing if it is recognized in Kaffiene?
[07:00] <GuppyMan> Ben64: Not showing up in Kaffeine media player either... Strange.
[07:01] <GuppyMan> Ben64: I found the video0 file in dev
[07:02] <Ben64> GuppyMan: you said it wasnt there before :)
[07:02] <GuppyMan> Ben64: Is there any way to open this or something O_o
[07:03] <Ben64> find a program that can use an atsc tuner? i use mythtv
[07:03] <GuppyMan> Ben64: Downloading...
[07:03] <AlHafoudh> hi
[07:08] <GuppyMan> Ben64: Restarting to finish install.
[07:12] <GuppyMan> Ben64: So, I installed MythTV.  Says it can't connect to database.
[07:12] <GuppyMan> Ben64: Where would I find a setup guide?
[07:14] <Ben64> well theres google, #mythtv-users for starters
[07:19] <tasslehoff> After running Ubuntu 14.04 for a while my sound disappeared. Can't see anything odd in alsamixer, and tried reinstalling pulseaudio
[07:20] <tenstormavi__> makara, hello i have installed lamp in ubuntu but it is not working. I am not able to see the ubuntu default page.
[07:21] <tenstormavi> makara, sorry for late reply.
[07:23] <nir0> hi guys, my after update my sound doesn't work any more
[07:24] <nir0> firefox becomes grey after trying to play sound through flash
[07:26] <Scarlett21>  Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://j.mp/1lApOhD
[07:44] <ovidius2> hi. i am using a hp laptop with amd processor and graphics card. i use the radeon driver since the integrated chip is not supproted in 14.04 anymore by amd. i turned off the dedicated gfx card via vgaswitcheroo, but still my laptop gets very hot. can someone help me?
[07:54] <Ppknam> Hi
[07:54] <Ppknam> Can any one speak english here?
[07:54] <otis> ppknam I can, what do you need?
[07:54] <Ben64> this is the english language support channel, so i'd assume so
[07:55] <Ppknam> I'm a newbaby here
[07:56] <Ppknam> I'm looking for tech help
[07:56] <bcvery> !ask | ppknam
[07:59] <GuppyMan> Ben64:  It actually is recognizing it now, at least the analog portion.
[08:05] <AncientPC> I compiled / installed ncdu from tarball but lost Unicode support. How do I copmile with Unicode support?
[08:07] <AncientPC> or for that matter does anybody know where I can find Debian / Ubuntu maintainer's patches / build scripts for ncdu?
[08:17] <plop> hi! I have a question about ubuntu and udev (I havn't problem, it's just to undersant :) )
[08:18] <I_Do_Believe> AncientPC, I assume you aware of http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=sourcenames&keywords=ncdu
[08:19] <gm10_> siema
[08:19] <plop> When the ubuntu kernel start, udev isn't yet started, so how it can catch uevent to add some device like about usb stick (for example) to add /dev/sda node ?
[08:26] <TIBS02> 0_p
[08:26] <iptable> priuon, actually, most likely broken. even if not supported, it should still come up in lspci or lsusb
[08:26] <cfhowlett> priuon I THINKK that's it, costs nothing to try/test
[08:26] <iptable> priuon, oh, so you want to know if you can look at freenode topology and node status?
[08:26] <gm10_> siemas
[08:26] <iptable> priuon, that explains a lot about your question. otherwise we are guessing 1. which network, 2. nodes of what
[08:26] <gm10_> mam problem z ubuntu
[08:27] <priuon> iptable: yeah that was the question :)
[08:27] <iptable> gm10_, this channel is English. Let me find you the Polish one
[08:27] <gm10_> nie działa mi komputer!!!!
[08:27] <cfhowlett> !indononesian|gm10_
[08:27] <iptable> cfhowlett, that's Polish actually...
[08:27] <cfhowlett> !indonesian|gm10_
[08:27] <AncientPC> I_Do_Believe: nope, thx. Looking at the diff it looks like they just call `make -f`. :/
[08:28] <cfhowlett> iptable DOH!
[08:28] <cfhowlett> !polish|gm10
[08:28] <iptable> oh, he left
[08:28]  * cfhowlett happy to see ubottu wake up
[08:28] <iptable> damn, joins/parts and renames can be useful...
[08:28] <priuon> iptable: well the touchpad was available in the mswindows installation i was using beforehand. I am refraining from installing any ms atm for not knowing what will happen and or how to repair to my current GRUB setup, as xubuntu is what i currently depend on.
[08:30] <iptable> priuon, have you tried booting into ubuntu (not xubuntu), or kubuntu or linux mint and checking if the pointer auto-magically works there? also, did you remember to apt-get update && apt-get upgrade your system? Furthermore, what is the ubuntu version?
[08:30] <iptable> priuon, has the touchpad EVER worked in ubuntu for you?
[08:31] <priuon> "xserv-xorg-input-multitouch" might help as well. the notebook advertises multitouch capabilities. These seemingly lacked proper implementation though as of what i found out on mswindows.
[08:32] <iptable> priuon, please answer the questions asked
[08:32] <priuon> iptable I am on 12.04.04 xubuntu, i have a bootable linuxmint available on another partition. No i have not tried ubuntu or kubuntu yet. but i tried linuxmint 12.04 ubuntu derived and latest linuxmint 16 both not having the touchpad visible.
[08:33] <priuon> I am going to install the multitouch pack. But it does not seem to do much of a change
[08:42] <Guest55875> hello
[08:43] <didrik> Stryker, just checked the documentation. No I don't. How do I check?
[08:43] <iptable> priuon, you cannot unless you are comfortable with partitioning tools and partition resizing. The tools are gparted/parted,reseize2fs
[08:44] <iptable> priuon, but since you want to fix it, you need to test it
[08:44] <didrik> Sorry I'm used to windows but new to ubuntu
[08:44] <iptable> didrik, has it ever worked in any OS?
[08:44] <didrik> googling.. just a sec
[08:44] <Stryker> didrik, probably going into the terminal and typing without quotes "lspci|grep -i network"
[08:44] <priuon> as i have a more or less solid internet connection (rather slow for the modern standard but enough for what we are talking about), and a lot of hdd space for making a backup i might as well format the whole drive. But i'd prefer to learn of to do it inplace.
[08:44] <Stryker> if nothing comes up, try lspci|grep -i ethernet
[08:44] <cfhowlett> priuon best practice is to install windows FIRST.
[08:45] <iptable> didrik, or better, dmesg |grep -i eth
[08:45] <priuon> iptable: i downloaded the ubuntu repository dvds and want to use them inplace of the online reppos. is it compilcated to set this up with a xubuntu installation?
[08:45] <iptable> priuon, no idea, sorry
[08:45]  * iptable goes to dentist
[08:45] <priuon> cfhowlett: i know. But this would mean i have to delete my current setup.
[08:46] <didrik> Intel Corperation 82579V Gigabit Network Connection (rev 06)
[08:46] <cfhowlett> priuon assume that installing windows *will* break your current setup and proceed accordingly.  backup ^ 3
[08:46] <didrik> using |grep eth
[08:46] <didrik> using |grep -i eth
[08:46] <priuon> iptable: installing xfce on a ubuntu won't get me the same setup a xubuntu installtion does will it?
[08:47] <Stryker> didrik, you and I have the same card, but mine's rev 05
[08:47] <cfhowlett> priuon you can get "xubuntu" with apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[08:47] <priuon> cfhowlett, oh thats nice
[08:47] <sveta> cfhowlett, I think he already has xubuntu though, I was thinking.
[08:48] <iptable> priuon, no, but doing apt-get install xubuntu-desktop will
[08:48] <priuon> i guess i will do that then. linuxmint isn't available as such is it?
[08:48] <sveta> It is a separate distro.
[08:48] <cfhowlett> priuon not supported or accessible from ubuntu
[08:48] <iptable> priuon, it is available, it's another distro closely relying on ubuntu. linuxmint 17 LTS atm
[08:48] <sveta> bah, it is accessible. by downloading it. :s
[08:48] <sveta> ubuntu doesn't block you from downloading stuff.
[08:48] <louigi> hey fellas, can you advice - in the command line if I want to open a most recent file in a folder with, say, vim, how do I picke the last file without tabbing through a long name of using a mouse?
[08:49] <priuon> is "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" available as well?
[08:49] <didrik> ok. but it should work then? I have checked the connection socket on another computer and there is nothing wrong with the connection
[08:49] <louigi> Id there a way to just pick the last file?
[08:49] <Stryker> didrik, mine was also custom built. I had no problems with it. This is as far as I can help you at my level. Anybody else able to help didrik? didrik knows the name of the network card now
[08:49] <didrik> so its my new rig which has a problem
[08:49] <cfhowlett> priuon of course!
[08:49] <sveta> louigi, hi. "ls -latr" sorts by time.  looking.
[08:49] <cfhowlett> priuon hat trick: sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop      ...
[08:50] <louigi> sveta: but how do I actually feed this into vim? I mean, I have a list of files and usually you type "vim" and then use your mouse to copy the filename and middle-click it.
[08:50] <louigi> I'd like to just feed the most recent file
[08:50] <louigi> into vim
[08:50] <louigi> with a command
[08:50] <Stryker> thanks, iptable
[08:51] <priuon> I have some rather unpleasant experience with installing multiple desktops on one linux. as in having all the bundled apps etc show up in other DE's. will this happen with xubuntu-desktop/kubuntu-desktop?
[08:51] <Stryker> priuon, my advice is that I remember that windows must always be on a primary partition
[08:51] <cfhowlett> priuon it will happen.  if you want to quarantine your OS (recommended), install vbox, download the 32 bits distros and install to vbox
[08:51] <sveta> louigi, ``ls -Art | tail -n 1'', or ``ls -t | head -n1''
[08:52] <louigi> sveta: super thanks, will try this
[08:52] <dunbuggy> hey all im having some discrepancies between a entering a command in a terminal vs entering it from php's exec() function
[08:52] <priuon> well I'd like to have ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu on one linux without them mixing up. But i guess this is not possible as such
[08:52] <dunbuggy> its an encoding problem, so i think it may belong here
[08:53] <didrik> anyone else than Stryker who can help me with my Ethernet issues?
[08:53] <Stryker> priuon, try not to go to far in depth with extended and logical partitions unless you are close to your limit of primary partitions. Using Gparted, the only thing you would be doing is shrinking the linux partition and using the resulting free space as NTFS
[08:53] <cfhowlett> priuon different packages ... you could always just get the desktop environments ...
[08:53] <dunbuggy> php cant seem to recognize utf8 characters in the exec() response
[08:53] <stone_> hello,everyone!
[08:54] <Stryker> priuon, this is not enough advice to go out and do it safely. Back up everything that is dear to you and work this thing out - all of us dual booters have done this
[08:55] <priuon> Stryker I am running on 4 primary partitions atm. and I have some unusable free space intedned for another os installation. So i kind of have to deal with the issue
[08:57] <didrik> iptable, yesterday after first install it worked. I then tured off the computer and this morning it did not work anymore. I keep seeing the Wifi connection animation in the top corner but noting connects
[08:58] <priuon> Stryker: I will damn sure back things up before doing anything parition related. But i still would need to know how to change some partitions into logical ones. and or how to install mswindows without reinstalling my linux installations.
[08:59] <sveta> priuon, I did have all the desktops a couple years ago. it is okay, but in retrospect, I think I need to have different users on each desktop - otherwise their startup settings interfere.
[08:59] <cfhowlett> priuon properly done, install the *nixs but then you'll need to repair the windows install and THEN reinstall grub
[09:00] <priuon> I might also want to shift my partitions around. And i'd like to know where my grub is installed ( i made a primary partition for /boot/ but don't know whether it got used due to setting the installer to the sda not to the partition for safety reasons)
[09:02] <didrik> dmesg gives: eth0: 10/100 speed: disabling TSO \n eth0 NIC link is down \n eth0 NIC link is up 100 Mbps Full duplex, Flow control: None
[09:02] <didrik> \n are line breaks
[09:02] <Stryker> priuon, Windows doesn't work well, if at all, on a logical partition, but a logical partition can hold many smaller logical partitions to infinity. Linux can run from any of these logical partitions. Perhaps you have to plan ahead next time and make sure your linux installs are always logical, but you have to move all of that linux fun over to a logical partition (not fun to do)
[09:02] <didrik> the three statements keep repeting
[09:02] <priuon> i guess it's adviseable to only use one DE isn't it.
[09:02] <Stryker> didrik are you trying to use it with wifi?
[09:03] <didrik> @Stryker no. Ethernet My desktop diesnt have Wifi as far as I know
[09:03] <priuon> what other buntus are there. I know of kde,xfce,lxde now :)
[09:03] <Stryker> priuon, I use 3 different DEs and it's fun to experiment. They just take up a lot of space. Openbox is my preferred WM/DE
[09:03] <didrik> btw how to I write red PMs to ppl?
[09:03] <Stryker> didrik, just checking if you were using it correctly
[09:03] <didrik> so I dont flood the chat
[09:03] <Jeroen_Mathon> Use /msg
[09:03] <Stryker> didrik, you just type their names
[09:04] <thecha> what about gnome?
[09:04] <thecha> you cannot use gnome as DE?
[09:04] <Jeroen_Mathon> Whats wrong? perhaps i can hel as well
[09:04] <Jeroen_Mathon> help*
[09:04] <cfhowlett> !gnome|thecha
[09:04] <priuon> Stryker: I kind of liked openbox. But couldn't find much depth of repos and the sorts in the short time i had with it.
[09:04] <thecha> !gnome3
[09:05] <thecha> !unity
[09:05] <Stryker> priuon, LXDE and Openbox have won my heart
[09:05] <priuon> stryker, there are some other wms i'd like to learn more about but i am not so sure if i will ever have time to do it
[09:05] <thecha> stryker i like gnome 3 best
[09:06] <thecha> clean cut and lean
[09:06] <Jeroen_Mathon> thechas Did you try e17 Enlightment 17?
[09:06] <thecha> no gimmicks no gadgets not dangerous features that will have you accidently erase partitions
[09:06] <Jeroen_Mathon> !e17
[09:06] <Stryker> Gnome 3 isn't too lean, but it looks nice.
[09:06] <thecha> yes i did
[09:06] <priuon> Stryker: i am on xfce as of now, for it beeing well supported and me beeing a noob :)
[09:06] <Stryker> !openbox
[09:06] <thecha> beautiful
[09:06] <thecha> it just werks
[09:06] <Jeroen_Mathon> Try arch if you want to learn how to use mix window managers
[09:07] <Jeroen_Mathon> Like Gnome with KDE Windows
[09:07] <Stryker> priuon, LXDE is like a light version of XFCE - same features, but much more lightweight.
[09:07] <thecha> are you alowed to talk about arch and other distors in this channel?
[09:07] <tomengland> how do i control when the screen dims off on my laptop
[09:07] <priuon> I hated the open apps with a search inquirey approach of gnome3. I also couldn't find out how to get rid of it...
[09:07] <tomengland> in ubuntu 14.04
[09:07] <pkovie> hello everyone, I've just discovered 'grub customizer' to change the order of or remove grub entries, but the changes I made didnt apply to grub. I'd saved them.
[09:07] <Jeroen_Mathon> It's only advice to learn how to use advanced linux,
[09:07] <Jeroen_Mathon> Its educational
[09:08] <sveta> Jeroen_Mathon, hi.
[09:08] <Jeroen_Mathon> I s switched back to ubuntu afterworths
[09:08] <Jkup_> Hi
[09:08] <Jeroen_Mathon> Hi
[09:08] <thecha> pkovie you can directly access the files in gruband edit directly
[09:08] <didrik> iptable did you get my messages?
[09:08] <priuon> Stryker: I got the picture of it beeing exzessively restrictive. But it might just have been the installation i got.
[09:08] <thecha> no need for a manager pkovie :)
[09:08] <Jkup_> I have a question
[09:08] <sveta> Jeroen_Mathon, I believe distros are all equally educational; they have the relevant window managers in the repos anyway.
[09:08] <Jkup_> a newb question
[09:08] <Stryker> Jeroen_Mathon, but arch has its downsides, as it handicaps people for building sources with their pacman approach
[09:08] <Jeroen_Mathon> Yeah i really liked the intall from text version.
[09:08] <cfhowlett> !asj|Jkup_
[09:08] <sveta> Jkup_, hi, what's the question?
[09:09] <cfhowlett> !ask|Jkup_
[09:09] <stone_> ubuntu use SELinux?
[09:09] <sveta> cfhowlett, thanks for the typo, I wanted to say. He was already asked what's up.
[09:09] <sveta> wow. that's a wordy message.
[09:09] <pkovie> thecha, yes, I also saw on the same page the posts about editing the file..gui seemed safer, just not to mess anything up..
[09:09] <Stryker> sveta, right?
[09:09] <priuon> Stryker, has lxde all the libs removed?
[09:10] <cfhowlett> sveta I did propose a Samuel L. Jackson edit but --- denied.
[09:10] <Stryker> priuon, I am not sure what you mean by that.
[09:10] <Jkup_> I want to get into info sec, i have been using ubuntu for about 3 months, I was just curious on some steps and things i should do to get there. any friendly recommendations ? :)
[09:10] <Jeroen_Mathon> I recommend using backintime if you'r costumising for the first time
[09:10] <Jeroen_Mathon> !backintime
[09:10] <sveta> stone_, I think it's available, but not by default. and it's not even maintained properly. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SELinux
[09:11] <priuon> i found and loved icewm and fmwm on university systems. But don't know how to set those up the way they are set up on mentioned systems
[09:11] <thecha> pkovie→ the directly eediting is what i think is best so you know exactly what can be taken safely
[09:11] <priuon> Stryker, my assumption is, that xfce is not lightweight for using gtk+
[09:11] <Jeroen_Mathon> Edit your xinitrc file
[09:12] <thecha> pkovie→ i am on a dual boot
[09:12] <thecha> ubuntu and windows7
[09:12] <Jeroen_Mathon> I got my mom to do that
[09:12] <Jeroen_Mathon> She likes linux more now.
[09:12] <arunpyasi> hi all
[09:13] <Jeroen_Mathon> arunpsyasi Hello
[09:13] <thecha> why is ubunu the best rod top distro? i mean why are most linux users ubuntu users?
[09:13] <thecha> is it because of unity?
[09:13] <stone_> sveta but it already in use in 14.10! i test the 14.10 and i  found it installed by default!
[09:13] <cfhowlett> thecha you'd have to ask the millions of users --- not here
[09:13] <Jeroen_Mathon> Its easy and it works "Finally after the hell i've been trough on version 12"
[09:13] <Stryker> priuon, I remember back in the days when GNOME 2 was Ubuntu's main deal. XFCE used to be more lightweight that it, but now it is not. LXDE is almost a throwback to GNOME 2 like XFCE is, but is, by itself, more lightweight
[09:14] <thecha> cfhowlett→ it owuld be quite time consuming to aks millions of users, i doubt i have the resources to even find them
[09:14] <thecha> ;)
[09:14] <Stryker> thecha, that is an illusion
[09:14] <sveta> stone_, the wiki is out of date then. my apologies.
[09:14] <Jeroen_Mathon> Got to go bye :)
[09:14] <thecha> bye
[09:14] <priuon> to get back to topic. how do i move my setup towards extended/logical partitions. will i have to delete one of my 4 primarys beforehand or will i be able to do the transition without it?
[09:15] <Jkup_> I want to get into info sec, i have been using ubuntu for about 3 months, I was just curious on some steps and things i should do to get there. any friendly recommendations ? :)
[09:15] <thecha> priuon use gparted
[09:15] <priuon> Stryker, well if the thing is robust i will be inclined to use it. But i guess i will end up with either fmwm or icewm
[09:16] <cfhowlett> Jkup_ ask the ##linux channel
[09:16] <stone_> sveta thank you ,it's ok!
[09:16] <priuon> also, will i (maybe with gparted) be able to keep the partition labels as they are now?
[09:16] <Jkup_> ok
[09:17] <Stryker> thecha, here is a comprehensive article on why we can't be sure which distro is the most popular http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/78416.html
[09:17] <cfhowlett> Jkup_ also https://www.dropbox.com/s/vdrj7k0degpzxer/Debian-Ubuntu_hardening_guide.pdf
[09:17] <thecha> gparted allows you do to all that
[09:17] <thecha> basically if you wanna inst6all a new distro you have to create all 3 parts for yolur system
[09:17] <Stryker> priuon, you can't exceed max primary partitions, though
[09:18] <thecha> first / or root then the swap and then the general data storage type
[09:18] <Jkup_> Thank you sir
[09:18] <cfhowlett> Jkup_ pretty sure ibm.com and opensource.com have some free resources
[09:19] <Jkup_> I will check it out, cheers
[09:19] <pkovie> thecha, thank you! I will do it by editing the file
[09:19] <Jkup_> Ii dont get why it wont let me send to ##linux
[09:20] <thecha> priuon→ pleae consider this information
[09:20] <thecha> http://askubuntu.com/questions/170607/dual-boot-ubuntu-and-windows-7?lq=1
[09:20] <andreas_> Hi guys. Im connected to a wifi network on my notebook. when im connected over ethernet to my embedded linux board, the internet connection is lost. ethernet interface has static ip. any ideas?
[09:20] <thecha> it mighthelp clear up some of the confuse
[09:21] <Stryker> andreas_, make that ip dynamic, man
[09:22] <priuon> Stryker, read about it. That's basically what my issue is. I have 4 primarys unused free sapce and some more os including mswin to install. So as far as i am now, i will have to remove to convert two primarys to logicals. to get one extended and a free primary. For that sense I might want to or have to move the other two primarys on the disc. furthermore I want to have grup on a separate partition as it is availble atm. As i don't have
[09:22] <priuon>  much experience with such I am kind of stuck with that set of tasks now.
[09:24] <didrik> Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 40:16:7e:78:35:3b
[09:24] <didrik>           inet6 addr: fe80::4216:7eff:fe78:353b/64 Scope:Link
[09:24] <didrik>           UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[09:24] <didrik>           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[09:24] <didrik>           TX packets:1086 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[09:24] <didrik>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[09:24] <unopaste> didrik you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[09:25] <Stryker> priuon, here's how it should look like: eliminate one of the primary partitions and make a new extended partition in its place. The extended partition will hold your logical partitions for other OSes. You will have to get rid of another primary partition for windows and format that space to NTFS. Make sure that grub is not installed on either of these partitions.
[09:25] <Stryker> then install windows
[09:26] <Stryker> then sudo update-grub
[09:26] <didrik> stryker my ifconfig shows http://paste.ubuntu.com/7657509/
[09:26] <didrik> does that give any info?
[09:27] <Stryker> didrik, I only know how to troubleshoot broadcom driver issues. I was hoping you had a broadcom interface.
[09:27] <alveraan> Hi. I'm playing with kvm/libvirtd. Sice I'm used to vmware, and one has to install the vmware tools on each guest machine, my question is are some kind of "tools" required on a libvirt guest?
[09:28] <didrik> stryker. Ok thanks anyway
[09:28] <priuon> Stryker. that sudo from a livecd boot kinda thing then?
[09:28] <Stryker> didrik, also, none of that info was very useful. It looks like it was able to upload some packets, but not receive any, as I see it.
[09:28] <didrik> If anyone else out there wants to help me with an ethernet connection issue. Please let me know.
[09:28] <didrik> ok
[09:28] <Stryker> priuon, you have to do it from an active install of a linux
[09:29] <Stryker> priuon, if you have a swap partition that's primary, that can easily go.
[09:30] <priuon> stryker, i'd like to refrain from simply deleting a partition. Is it not possible to define a new setup incorporating a move of current paritions into the new ones? Specifying arrangement on HDD and maybe also labeling (etc.) and have it be done afterwards!?
[09:31] <priuon> Stryker I have.
[09:31] <priuon> But then the partition is rather small
[09:31] <stone_> i thought  X86 's future is UNIX like,Windows 's future is on ARM,am i correct?   sorry for my stupid!!!!
[09:32] <Question> so i am trying to set up privoxy by following these instructions    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Privoxy       but i am confused on where it says: So lets jump to line 661, and see what the option here is - our listening IP address. well we know what we want, and in my case its this:  listen-address  192.168.0.1:8118     what does this mean?
[09:32] <cfhowlett> stone_ no fortune tellers on duty.  what is your ubuntu question?
[09:33] <Question> would the listening ip address be my ip address?
[09:33] <Stryker> priuon, there is a way, if you have enough free space, to move your stuff from primary to logical, but then deleting the primary
[09:33] <priuon> thats the thing i am looking for.
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[09:35] <andreas_> Stryker, this could be a problem. the board connected to the ethernet port has to be a static ip too. there is no dhcp server on it.
[09:37] <Stryker> andreas_, that's a given, but it needs to be explicitly assigned (which increases chance of collision)
[09:39] <Stryker> andreas_ try to make sure the router or modem has a number for your netbook and it alone if you are going the static route (which I don't recommend)
[09:43] <Nothing_Much> I need some help with this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[09:44] <Nothing_Much> I need some help with this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[09:45] <Question>  so i am trying to set up privoxy by following these instructions    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Privoxy       but i am confused on where it says: So lets jump to line 661, and see what the option here is - our listening IP address. well we know what we want, and in my case its this:  listen-address  192.168.0.1:8118     what does this mean?
[09:47] <Nothing_Much> Can somebody PLEASE tell me how the heck to patch a kernel??????
[09:47] <cfhowlett> Nothing_Much never done it.  if no answer, ask ##linux
[09:47] <Pricey> Nothing_Much: What is the real aim? Why do you think you need to?
[09:47] <dp_wiz> Nothing_Much: why do you want this?
[09:48] <Nothing_Much> dp_wiz: I'm trying to see if a patch for this: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=72921 can be fixed!!
[09:48] <Question> does anyone have an answer for me?
[09:48] <Nothing_Much> I need two different kernels!
[09:48] <Nothing_Much> I don't know how to separate two of the same kernels or anything I just want to fix this!
[09:49] <cfhowlett> Nothing_Much why do you need 2 kernels!  explain!
[09:49] <Nothing_Much> I'm sorry I'm just EXTREMELY frustrated at this and nobody can tell me HOW to do it, I just get people linking me to a website that tells me to "ask the patcher" or whatever!
[09:49] <Nothing_Much> cfhowlett: Because there's two different patches!
[09:50] <Pricey> Nothing_Much: You'll probably need to use http://linux.die.net/man/1/patch to apply the diff you've been given. The instructions int he page you linked are probably appropriate.
[09:50] <dp_wiz> Nothing_Much: so, what step on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile doesn't work out for you?
[09:51] <Nothing_Much> Pricey: I KNOW HOW TO PATCH, I just don't know where the kernel sources are! I did the apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r) thing but I don't know where to go from there!!
[09:52] <Nothing_Much> dp_wiz: NO it doesn't!
[09:52] <dp_wiz> Nothing_Much: which one?
[09:52] <dp_wiz> there are many steps. which one  you've tried and failed?
[09:52] <Nothing_Much> B) download the source archive, apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)
[09:52] <Nothing_Much> I got 3 files in my home directory
[09:53] <Nothing_Much> Okay
[09:53] <Nothing_Much> I put the 3 files in a new file
[09:53] <Nothing_Much> They're linux_3.13.0.orig.tar.gz
[09:53] <Question> are you trying to compile a new kernal?
[09:53] <Nothing_Much> linux_3.13.0-29.53.diff.gz
[09:53] <js1123> hello, is there a way to change/alter the popup 'shortcutlist'-image after pressing the Super key? ( or maybe to disable this pop-up and use the keubord setting to trigger an other custom popup screen?)
[09:54] <Nothing_Much> Question: Yes! I NEED to test these patches!
[09:54] <Question> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/amd64/kernel-baking.html
[09:54] <Pricey> Nothing_Much: A folder wasn't also created?
[09:54] <Nothing_Much> Pricey: No, I had to make a folder because those 3 files were in the home directory
[09:55] <Nothing_Much> After I did the apt-get source
[09:55] <sutetcipe> hi, i have two wireless cards on my pc and i want one to connect to one AP but only allow local traffic through it (i.e. within the network). and the other to connect to an AP but only allow external traffic, ive done some digging and assume i can get this done with iptables, but i have been trying for a day now and no luck, can anyone assist
[09:56] <ztane> Nothing_Much: the apt-get downloads the source in CWD
[09:56] <ztane> Nothing_Much: so you might want to cd /usr/src, then download there.
[09:56] <ztane> Nothing_Much: then follow Question's instrucitons
[09:57] <Question> so i am following the instructions on how to set up privoxy but i don't under stand this part   So lets jump to line 661, and see what the option here is - our listening IP address. well we know what we want, and in my case its this:  listen-address  192.168.0.1:8118
[09:57] <Nothing_Much> Wait hold on
[09:57] <Question> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Privoxy
[09:57] <Nothing_Much> There's a linux-source-3.13.0.tar.bz2 file in there
[09:58] <Nothing_Much> Because I did apt-get install linux-source
[09:59] <Question> would the listening ip address be my ip address?
[09:59] <Pricey> Nothing_Much: Hmm I've only got access to debian here but 'apt-get source' unpacks the sources and applies all patches etc... didn't think it'd be different on ubuntu.
[09:59] <Pricey> Nothing_Much: Absolutely sure that a directory, in addition to the other 3 files isn't crated? Did apt-get source give an error?
[10:00] <Nothing_Much> Pricey: Should I do it again in the home directory again?
[10:00] <Question> grrr
[10:00] <Nothing_Much> Pricey:
[10:01] <Pricey> Question: 'yes'. You probably don't want to make this an external address. Listenning on loopback (i assume the default) will probably be fine.
[10:01] <Pricey> Nothing_Much: It's your bandwidth.
[10:01] <Nothing_Much> Pricey: What?
[10:02] <Question> thanks just didn't want to mess anything up
[10:02] <Nothing_Much> Dude, just tell me, yes or no? Is it supposed to make another directory??
[10:02] <Nothing_Much> Ugh, fine
[10:03] <Nothing_Much> There's 3 files being downloaded
[10:03] <Nothing_Much> One of them is 116MB
[10:04] <Nothing_Much> Pricey: There are 3 files in my home directory by the name of linux_3.13.0.orig.tar.gz linux_3.13.0-29.53.diff.gz linux_3.13.0-29.53.dsc
[10:05] <Nothing_Much> That was using apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)
[10:05] <niko> /11/11
[10:06] <Pricey> Nothing_Much: And a folder wasn't also created? Was an error given?
[10:06] <Nothing_Much> Oh old on
[10:06] <Nothing_Much> linux-3.13.0 is here
[10:07] <Nothing_Much> That's a directory
[10:07] <Pricey> Yes :)
[10:07] <Pricey> Try looking inside that for the unpacked & patched sources.
[10:07] <asad2005> lately i have noticed that my rss reader Lifera feed items becoming read by itself, IS this a known bug? Can someone recommend a better RSS reader on ubuntu
[10:07] <Nothing_Much> Hold up
[10:09] <Nothing_Much> Hang on, I gotta redownload that patch
[10:10] <Nothing_Much> Alright got it
[10:10] <Scratchy> :)
[10:10] <priuon> what is the syntax for quoting a message of another channel?
[10:10] <Nothing_Much> Now
[10:10] <priuon> '[%H:%M] #channel nick:"message"' ?
[10:11] <wrongplace> hi
[10:11] <Nothing_Much> Pricey: Where do I patch this .diff file?
[10:11] <Pricey> priuon: Whatever you fancy. Be nice though and don't copy private things if you think they're private. For multiline, use a !pastebin
[10:11] <wrongplace> i need to find the right drivers for my epson printer using foomatic
[10:11] <wrongplace> and I have no idea
[10:11] <Nothing_Much> Pricey: There's those 3 files and linux-3.13.0 folder
[10:11] <Nothing_Much> Where what and how?
[10:11] <Pricey> Nothing_Much: Those 3 files have been extracted into the folder.
[10:11] <Pricey> Nothing_Much: The folder will be the source for your currently running kernel.
[10:11] <Nothing_Much> Okay
[10:12] <priuon> "[12:00] #xubuntu/priuon: what pack gives me the 'find process of window' gui-tool in xfce?" is maybe better asked in here? (didn't get any answers in xubuntu so far)
[10:13] <Nothing_Much> Now I patch using patch < file.diff in that specific folder?
[10:14] <ObrienDave> priuon, you need to wait a few minutes before crossposting
[10:15] <ObrienDave> ok, you did wait 14 minutes. my apologies
[10:16] <priuon> ObrienDave, no offens. I had waiting times in hours before ;)
[10:16] <ObrienDave> yes, me too :)
[10:17] <larrypg> priuon, not sure this is exactly what you are asking for but would not Task Manager work?
[10:18] <priuon> task manager doesn't have the tool I am looking for as far as i can tell. linuxmint 12 mate came with that tool in the taskmanager if i remember correctly
[10:18] <gebbione> ping
[10:19] <priuon> 12.04 ubuntu derived linuxmint that is
[10:20] <JenniferB2> hi folks! How can I make ubuntu 14 switch to the active window when I switch to the application? For instance in my editor, Intellij, I can run two windows, and I have them on different virtual desktops. When I switch between functionality, sometimes intellij will switch to the other editor on the other virtual desktop, but I am remain stuck on the inactive window in Ubutnu ... is this possible to fix?
[10:21] <priuon> it's that tool with the crosshair that identifyies gui elements with the associated PID.
[10:22] <priuon> the xubuntu 12.04.04 bundled taskmanager doesn't have it (as far as i can see)
[10:22] <NGC982> Have some of you used Tellprox in Ubuntu?
[10:29] <jdmf> I'm looking for some input about creating a "Rescue System" just like the Hetzner Rescue System, where they have the ability to to unmanaged installations of multiple Linux Dists directly from network. (all within local network) - We are using Ubuntu 12.04, Ubuntu 14.04 and RHEL which should be installable from this install-system.
[10:35] <defconn> Hello. When booting from a DVD drive, I have options to boot: { AHCI, EFI } <my drive name>. Which one should I choose for most benefits?
[10:39] <arcsky> if i added my friend with "useradd -m friend" and i dont want him to list files in my homedir how can i fix that?
[10:40] <jrib> arcsky: remove world read and execute permissions on your home directory
[10:40] <jrib> !permissions > arcsky
[10:42] <arcsky> thanks
[10:42] <iptable> ooh, what does that do!
[10:42] <ubuntu-studio> hoi
[10:43] <iptable> !permissions > iptable
[10:43] <ubuntu-studio> hello
[10:43] <ubuntu-studio> hi
[10:43] <ubuntu-studio> hello
[10:43] <ubuntu-studio> welcome
[10:43] <iptable> ok, we got the message ubuntu-studio. 4 times.
[10:43] <iptable> 5
[10:43] <arcsky> jrib: "world" means other right?
[10:44] <ubuntu-studio> ya its correct
[10:44] <iptable> arcsky, yes. owner, group, world
[10:44] <ubuntu-studio> owner
[10:44] <ubuntu-studio> hoe
[10:44] <jrib> arcsky: yes
[10:44] <defconn> !permissions > ubottu
[10:44] <defconn> !permissions > defconn
[10:45] <jrib> priuon: are you looking for "xprop"?
[10:48] <jrib> jdmf: not really sure, but are you just looking for info on setting up a pxe install server?  Is that enough to get you started?  Some links on the wiki come up when I search for "pxe network install ubuntu"
[10:49] <lkthomas> anyone have good luck with partition on preseed ?
[10:49] <lkthomas> I can't get it working anyhow
[10:51] <alexi5> hello
[10:51] <priuon> jrib: i guess i am. is x11-utils bunled by default?
[10:51] <jrib> priuon: bundled where?
[10:52] <priuon> ubuntu to start with
[10:53] <jrib> priuon: on a standard desktop install, I'm pretty sure that is installed, yes.  Do note xprop is a terminal app
[10:54] <priuon> jrib. i am trying to find out how to do what i intend with it atm.
[10:54] <priuon> the manpage examples don't seem to cover it.
[10:54] <priuon> the description points out that xproc might be used for what i am looking for
[10:56] <priuon> now i was going to look if xproc takes pixel coordinates. As i don't think the gui elemnt with the crosshair is supposed to do the identification ;)
[10:56] <jrib> priuon: what do you want to do?
[10:56] <priuon> find the PID of a window on the current workspace i see
[10:57] <arun_> anyone there having ubuntu server or VPS and can provide me a chroot environment ???
[10:59] <rahul_> hii all i am try to install ffmpeg over ubuntu 14.041 on beagle bone
[10:59] <rahul_> *14.04
[10:59] <rahul_> but getting error Package 'ffmpeg' has no installation candidate
[10:59] <rahul_> what it means
[10:59] <omi_1> Hi.., I have a wireless usb adapter tp link wn723n.., but it seem it won't work on my ubuntu, I wonder how to solved this issue :)
[11:00] <rahul_> omi_1, what errors you are getting?
[11:01] <Ben64> rahul_: its "avconv" now
[11:01] <rahul_> Ben64, same error with it also
[11:01] <rahul_> i tried libav-tools
[11:01] <omi_1> yes it find my wireless connection and I can connected to it,, but still no internet acces rahul_
[11:02] <cfhowlett> !info avconv | rahul_
[11:02] <rahul_> libav-tools : Depends: ffmpeg (>= 7:0.10~) but it is not installable
[11:03] <rahul_> it is saying this
[11:03] <Ben64> wait, on beaglebone? isn't that arm? #ubuntu-arm may have more experience
[11:03] <rahul_> Ys
[11:04] <iptable> rahul_, ffmpeg is not in repos
[11:04] <iptable> rahul_, it's been replaced
[11:04] <omi_1> I 've tried this but still no internet acces http://askubuntu.com/questions/296994/how-to-get-the-tp-link-tl-wn723n-working-on-ubuntu
[11:04] <rahul_> then how to do it
[11:04] <iptable> rahul_, use the replacement.
[11:04] <arun_> anyone there having ubuntu server or VPS and can provide me a chroot environment ???
[11:05] <jack> W: GPG-Fehler: http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates Release: Die folgenden Signaturen waren ungültig: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[11:05] <arun_> rahul_: dude, try winff
[11:05] <iptable> rahul_, http://askubuntu.com/questions/432542/is-ffmpeg-missing-from-the-official-repositories-in-14-04
[11:05] <jack> how do i fix that?
[11:05] <iptable> rahul_, in other words install libav-tools and use avconv instead of ffmpeg. the actual command line parameters are the same
[11:06] <rahul_> iptable, I tried that also]
[11:06] <rahul_> libav-tools : Depends: ffmpeg (>= 7:0.10~) but it is not installable  iptable
[11:06] <Ben64> libav-tools does not say that
[11:07] <Ben64> if it does, then you're either not on 14.04, or you've got some weird repo stuff going on
[11:07] <rahul_> http://bpaste.net/show/LzOfJsRPw1fOwHFMONnR/
[11:08] <cfhowlett> rahul_ what is the output of cat /etc/issue
[11:08] <rahul_> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[11:08] <iptable> rahul_, libav-tools does NOT depend on ffmpeg.
[11:08] <rahul_> cfhowlett, ^
[11:08] <cfhowlett> rahul_ what iptable said
[11:09] <iptable> rahul_, please execute: apt-get install libav-tools AND pastebin us the full result
[11:10] <rahul_> iptable, http://bpaste.net/show/PHQe2fzvhn98z3lEhRNo/
[11:11] <cfhowlett> rahul_ weird.  WEIRD.  suggest you purge ffmpeg and try again
[11:12] <rahul_> cfhowlett, it is not installed
[11:12] <Ben64> its gotta be weird sources or a weird install or just weird arm stuff
[11:12] <rahul_> so how it will be removed
[11:12] <cfhowlett> rahul_ yep.  t'is probably a sources issue
[11:12] <rahul_> I think installing opencv may help me..
[11:15] <jrib> priuon: what do you want to do with the pid once you get it?
[11:16] <iptable> rahul_, add the ffmpeg repo if you find it for arm and install ffmpeg.
[11:16] <Ben64> iptable: why? avconv is already in ubuntu
[11:17] <iptable> Ben64, well yes, though he can't install it on arm for some reason or another (dodgy repos or install)
[11:17] <iptable> Ben64, just throwing an alternative here
[11:17] <Scratchy> How do I send a private message without opening a new chat window in irssi
[11:18] <Ben64> iptable: so adding more dodgy repos is the answer?
[11:19] <iptable> Ben64, well, if you put it that way...
[11:19] <sveta> Scratchy, http://www.irssi.org/documentation/startup#c5 -- /SET use_msgs_window ON, /SET autocreate_query_level DCCMSGS , /WINDOW NEW HIDE, /WINDOW NAME (msgs)  /WINDOW LEVEL MSGS   /window move 1
[11:19] <priuon> jrib: I don't really know. It has some developers background and also some sysadmin background. But I want to start using it anyways.
[11:20] <sveta> Scratchy, or if you dont want query windows for dcc chat either,  /SET autocreate_query_level none, instead of what mentioned for this pref in these steps
[11:31] <abc_> fg
[11:32] <abc_> :(|)
[11:33] <Guest32914> my system is not loading after ubuntu installation.......only two beep sounds are there...even bios is not loading..Can any one help me?
[11:35] <terraformer> hey guys, anybody has experience with cyberghost vpn on ubuntu? im having some issues with it and the network drivers used... Can anyone help :)
[11:35] <cfhowlett> Guest32914 bios not loading suggests SERIOUS issues of a non-ubuntu nature
[11:36] <iptable> Guest32914, what is the laptop name, also did it have EFI?
[11:36] <Guest32914> not laptop,it's desktop
[11:36] <jackbrown> hello there I'm trying to make it works on linux a thermal printer that is recognized as IEEE-1284 usb controller   lsusb = Bus 003 Device 004: ID 067b:2305 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2305 Parallel Port can anyone help me to make it works ?
[11:37] <Guest32914> iptable,  not laptop,it's desktop
[11:37] <iptable> cfhowlett, user may have fallen victim of either 1. bios configuration was on a sepcial partition on the HDD and he erased it installing ubuntu, or 2. it was the buggy EFI which fills with dmesg logs from ubuntu and kills itself.
[11:37] <iptable> Guest32914, still, my questions remain valid
[11:37] <Guest32914> iptable, how to know have EFI?
[11:38]  * cfhowlett waits, watches, hopes to learn something
[11:38] <Ben64> Guest32914: what brand/model desktop? and what happens when you turn it on
[11:38] <abc_> typing faster is a big deal on irc ?
[11:39] <iptable> abc_, uhm, typing faster is a big deal. that's it.
[11:39] <Guest32914> Ben64, It is an assembled system.processor intel i3.....
[11:40] <Guest32914> Ben64, When switch on two beep sounds only
[11:40] <cfhowlett> Guest32914 assembled = custom build??
[11:40] <Guest32914> cfhowlett, ys
[11:41] <Ben64> Guest32914: two beeps only? no video? that's an indication of a much bigger problem, as cfhowlett suggested
[11:41] <cfhowlett> Guest32914 you'll need to consult your mobo documentation.  2 beeps means ... something.
[11:41] <iptable> Guest32914, have you considered checking with your hardware manual on what "2 short beeps" means?
[11:42] <iptable> Guest32914, the beeps are actually error codes. find out, THEN fix.
[11:42]  * cfhowlett realizes that great minds think alike
[11:42] <jackbrown> ?
[11:42] <iptable> Guest32914, I'm assuming you DID apply thermal compound on to the CPU before putting hitsink on it? :P
[11:42] <abc_> Guest13433 RAM problem.
[11:42] <iptable> cfhowlett, oh, damn. you were faster than me :D
[11:42] <iptable> abc_, no, depends on manufacturer
[11:42] <Ben64> Guest32914: you should head on over to ##hardware
[11:44] <Guest32914> Ben64, Is it problem in Bios?I don't know any change happened in configuration menu bios in mistake
[11:44]  * cfhowlett "Heatsink?  We don't need no steenking heatsink!"
[11:44] <asad2005> Can someone sugegst an RSS reader better than Liferea
[11:45] <ikonia> thunderbird actually works quite well
[11:45] <iptable> asad2005, firefox
[11:45] <iptable> Guest32914, DID you read what we wrote?
[11:45] <ichat> calibre  combined with your default ebook-device :P
[11:45] <iptable> Guest32914, 1. did you apply thermal compound (the silvery stuff) between CPU and heatsink?
[11:46] <iptable> Guest32914, 2. did you check your motherboard manual to see what 2 beeps mean on your motherboard?
[11:46] <cfhowlett> Guest32914 if no recent bios changes, more likely is that you have developed some kind of hardware issue
[11:46] <iptable> Guest32914, 3. did you try to reset BIOS by changing the jumper to BIOS reset? (if you assemble your system, you should know how to do that)
[11:46] <iptable> Guest32914, 4. did you visit ##hardware for further help?
[11:47] <abc_> Guest32914 : HP beepcodes http://h10010.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en&docname=c02222922  you might consult this.
[11:47] <Guest32914> iptable, let me try all
[11:47] <alexi5> is a ssd a worth while invest ment for a linux development system ? does it offer signifficant IO performance over a performance hard drive like western digital black ?
[11:48] <iptable> Guest32914, well, if you did not use thermal compound (point 1) during assembly, you have just overheated and burnt your CPU. Even with heatsink and fan, without thermal compound, it will NOT cool down fast enough.
[11:48] <cfhowlett> alexi5 "worthwhile" is subjective and depends on you/your use proflle ...
[11:48] <iptable> alexi5, SSD is a lot faster in reads and writes and predictable when it will fail. CONS: more expensive, less storage
[11:48] <roventa> yesterday i tryed this site www.SoccerTips4Sure.com and i won nice money
[11:48] <cfhowlett> roventa get out of here and take your spam with you
[11:48] <iptable> roventa, thank you for the advert. no one here will use it.
[11:49] <alexi5> cfhowlett: worthwhile as in offer significant performance increase
[11:49] <Ben64> alexi5: random performance will be greatly improved. sequential not so much
[11:49] <cfhowlett> alexi5 see iptable's response
[11:49] <alexi5> i am thinking of getting two of them one for OS and other for running VMs for testing
[11:50] <alexi5> ok
[11:51] <mokush> I have an older pc which used to run ubuntu 12.04. I've upgraded to 14.04 and every once in a while it completly hangs, and I have to restart it. after restarting I'm always stuck in grub rescue. the only way I can bring grub back is with boot-repair. but at the next freeze, it's all over again. any idea what the issue might be?
[11:52] <cfhowlett> mokush "old PC" might prefer lubuntu or xubuntu.  the former is optimized for older hardware.  no need to reinstall.  sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop will get it
[11:52] <iptable> mokush, size of hard drives please and your partition layout#
[11:52] <ichat> alexi5:  - running 2 ssd's in a setup is hardly  worth the extensive added value.     instead if you would  would use a coppy-on-write filesystem  adding the ssd as write-cash is mutch  cheaper
[11:53] <jackbrown> hello there I'm trying to make it works on linux a thermal printer that is recognized as IEEE-1284 usb controller   lsusb = Bus 003 Device 004: ID 067b:2305 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2305 Parallel Port can anyone help me to make it works ?
[11:56] <mokush> iptable: I got a 70gb drive, with 2 equal size partitions - one ext4 and one ntfs, and a 2gb swap.
[11:57] <ichat> jackbrown:  - meaing your printer is not reconised...  what you discribe is a  usb-to-paralel (printer port) convertor...  a paralet port doesn't show any information about if or what is connected to the pc.  ergo you need to tell the pc (CUPS) what printer you have
[11:57] <iptable> mokush, in that case try lubuntu/xubuntu/linuxMint(mate edition) and see if ptoblem persists
[11:57] <tarelerulz> Have any of you used Netflix on Ubuntu?
[11:57] <mokush> iptable: it doesn't seem to be a de issue. I'm running a minimalist kde and it works fine
[11:58] <jackbrown> ichat: can you help me ?  I'm not using a usb-to-parallel adapter this printer is recognized as it was so I think that it has an embedded USB-to-Parallel adapter
[11:58] <jackbrown> ichat: thanks
[11:58] <cfhowlett> mokush I'd say 2 gigs is the pretty close to the floor for running ubuntu.
[11:58] <iptable> mokush, so if it works fine with KDE, then it seems to be the DE issue
[11:58] <ichat> tarelerulz: ...  your best chance is runnin  wine+windows firefox + netflix
[11:58] <mokush> cfhowlett: 2gigs only for the swap
[11:59] <cfhowlett> mokush so ... ram?
[11:59] <tarelerulz> Do  any of you used paid video streaming services on Ubunut?
[11:59] <mokush> cfhowlett: 4gigs
[11:59] <ichat> jackbrown:  - youl have to tell cups what the type and make of the printer is...    use the add printer wizzard...   your printer will probably be connected to   lpt0 or lpt1
[11:59] <cfhowlett> mokush more than adequate ...
[12:00] <jackbrown> ichat: it's asking me for the uri, the wizard didn't worked
[12:00] <mokush> cfhowlett: yeah, it should be. I'm guessing it has something to do with either the hdd or some drivers. that's why I was asking, maybe somebody else had this issue and manged to solve it somehow.
[12:01] <ichat> jackbrown:  did you google the   name and make of this printer
[12:01] <mokush> it's just weird how a freeze can completly mess up the mbr (or in some other way grub)
[12:01] <cfhowlett> mokush that is abnormal ...
[12:01] <jackbrown> ichat: yes sure but it's quite hard to find   it's "GWP-80 thermal printer"
[12:02] <didrik> Hi, I have problems connecting to an wired Ethernet netwoek using a brand new desktop with a clean install of Ubuntu 14.04.  Any takers?
[12:03] <iptable> didrik, or so you said but went away
[12:03] <iptable> didrik, so dmesg shows "link is down; link is up" and flaps like that?
[12:03] <didrik> iptabe yes, you never answered when I replied this morning
[12:03] <iptable> didrik, in case you don't read people's notes, I did say I was popping out to a dentist.
[12:03] <iptable> didrik, a few possible issues. either 1. no DHCP, or 2. the cable is faulty
[12:04] <didrik> iptable, ah I didnt see that sorry
[12:04] <didrik> iptable, I tried connecting the cable to another computer where it works. So that should mean that the cable and DHCP works right?
[12:05] <ichat> jackbrown:  i see, -  gonne be a hard google indead,  sorry i cant really help as dont have the device to play and see...
[12:06] <iptable> didrik, no. could be not.
[12:06] <iptable> didrik, different network cards, cables, speeds, crossover support enabled on card or disabled. too many factors. check another cable and another port on the router/switch.
[12:06] <didrik> iptable, alright just a sec
[12:07] <iptable> didrik, once checked, if same issue persists, check if DHCP works for that MAC address (maybe you got mac address filtering or other insane settings?)
[12:09] <kingverma12> can any one help me i want to install ubutu in my laptop single boot but while installation after few sec the screen turns blank nothing comes i tried evn nomodest option but same
[12:11]  * iptable goes to eat something
[12:17] <didrik> ipuser, ut works in  a different DHCP socket
[12:17] <didrik> iptable, it works in a different DHCP socket. Strange. Is there any way to make it work in the old one?
[12:20] <iptable> didrik, fix the old socket (or configuration for that socket). Anyways, not ubuntu issues, hardware/configuration issue with switch and/or router.
[12:21] <didrik> iptable. Ok thanks.
[12:21] <tarelerulz> Have any of you used Netflix with  wine+firefox windows version?
[12:22] <Nothing_Much> Now I patch using patch < file.diff in that specific folder?
[12:22] <Nothing_Much> Pricey: Hi again
[12:25] <ObrienDave> tarelerulz, there is a semi-dedicated version of netflix that works very well. let me try to find it
[12:28] <ObrienDave> oh well
[12:29] <Pricey> Nothing_Much: Perhaps, depends on the patch.
[12:29] <iptable> ObrienDave, I was about to say it's called netflix-ubuntu but ...
[12:30] <Nothing_Much> Pricey: Here's the patch: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=72921#c16
[12:30] <Nothing_Much> I just cd to the linux-3.13.0 folder and patch it, right?
[12:31] <ObrienDave> this one works very well for netflix http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/ehoover_compholio_netflix
[12:31] <tmick> Quoexl
[12:31] <tmick> Still here
[12:32] <Pricey> Nothing_Much: Probably, it doesn't look hard to apply it manually if patch doesn't work.
[12:33] <Nothing_Much> Pricey: Hang on a second
[12:33] <Nothing_Much> I tried patch < file.diff and it didn't work
[12:34] <Pricey> Nothing_Much: Just make the change manually then, it's a 2 line addition and very easy.
[12:34] <Nothing_Much> Pricey: Where?
[12:34] <Pricey> Nothing_Much: cat file.diff
[12:34] <Pricey> Nothing_Much: It's a human readable format.
[12:35] <Pricey> Nothing_Much: This may all be a bad idea. I'm not familiar with the kernel, that system or your hardware. For all I know this patch has already been applied in Ubuntu etc. etc. etc. and will eat your kittens.
[12:35] <Nothing_Much> Pricey: I can always just revert to the standard kernel
[12:35] <Nothing_Much> But no
[12:35] <Nothing_Much> I NEED these patches to work
[12:36] <iptable> not the kittens!
[12:36] <Pricey> Nothing_Much: Hopefully... as long as you don't break it ;)
[12:36] <Nothing_Much> Yeah
[12:36] <ObrienDave> anything but the kittens ;P
[12:36] <Nothing_Much> So how and where the hell am I supposed to patch this thing?
[12:36] <Pricey> Nothing_Much: did you cat the patch?
[12:37] <Nothing_Much> Yes
[12:37] <Pricey> Nothing_Much: Did you read it?
[12:37] <Nothing_Much> Yes..
[12:37] <Pricey> Nothing_Much: I would hope that it's pretty self explanatory as to what it is.
[12:37] <Nothing_Much> There's 2 directories
[12:37] <Pricey> Nothing_Much: +s are additions, -s (there aren't any) are deletions.
[12:37] <Nothing_Much> a/ and b/
[12:37] <Pricey> Nothing_Much: a is before, b is after.
[12:37] <Pricey> Nothing_Much: That's the difference between the two.
[12:37] <Nothing_Much> Wait hang on
[12:37] <Pricey> Nothing_Much: No. I will not hang on.
[12:37] <Nothing_Much> Nevermind
[12:38] <Nothing_Much> I read it
[12:38] <Nothing_Much> But where do I patch it?
[12:38] <Nothing_Much> To the kernel source????
[12:38] <Pricey> Nothing_Much: line numbers are at the top.
[12:38] <Nothing_Much> Huh?
[12:38] <Nothing_Much> After index?
[12:39] <Joel> how can I get a list of all current/sub directories not containing a word? find . -not -name "*node_modules*" -exec echo {} \; doesn't work for me, it's matching things with node_modules in the path
[12:39] <f3st> how can I get a list of all current/sub directories not containing a word? find . -not -name "*node_modules*" -exec echo {} \; doesn't work for me, it's matching things with node_modules in the path
[12:40] <Pricey> f3st: Hi?
[12:40] <ObrienDave> better question, how do you post the EXACT same thing using 2 different user names at EXACTLY the same time? ;P
[12:41] <Pricey> Joel: find whatever | grep -v somethingtomatchagainst
[12:41] <Pricey> (Probably not safe for a variety of reasons...)
[12:41] <Joel> Pricey, yuck
[12:41] <iptable> f3st, |grep -v "node_modules"
[12:41] <Pricey> Joel: You want a proper solution then... :)
[12:42] <Nothing_Much> UGH
[12:43] <iptable> Joel, grep -v is proper and works. what's yuck about a working solution?
[12:43] <Nothing_Much> Can I get some help with patching a friggin' DIFF FILE?
[12:43] <Pricey> Joel: replace your "s with '"
[12:43] <iptable> Nothing_Much, cat the file. read the contents, apply patch manually as specified in the file
[12:43] <Pricey> Joel: bah, replace your "s with 's
[12:43] <Pricey> Joel: I'm pretty sure your solution will work, your shell is just mangling it.
[12:43] <Nothing_Much> iptable: WHERE???????
[12:44] <iptable> Nothing_Much, what does it say when you cat file.diff
[12:44] <Joel> Pricey, nope :\
[12:44] <iptable> read it
[12:44] <Pricey> Joel: Are you sure? Works for me...
[12:44] <Pricey> Joel: Do you also want to not match files within a directory that matches your pattern?
[12:44] <Nothing_Much> iptable: It doesn't say anything anymore...
[12:45] <Nothing_Much> There is no output anymore
[12:45] <Nothing_Much> What the hell?
[12:45] <iptable> Nothing_Much, you have erased the contents of that patch file
[12:45] <Nothing_Much> oh man
[12:45] <iptable> Nothing_Much, you probably used > file.diff as opposed to < file.diff
[12:45] <Pricey> Joel: Here's an example of it working: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7658222/
[12:46] <Joel> Pricey, what? that's not working, you're still match mosh
[12:46] <Joel> O.o
[12:46] <Nothing_Much> iptable: Okay I got the patch again
[12:47] <Nothing_Much> or diff
[12:47] <iptable> Joel, it is working as expected. You want it to work against the design, that's the problem
[12:47] <Pricey> Joel: ./mosh-1.2.3/debian/mosh & ./mosh-1.2.3 don't appear in the second command's output.
[12:47] <iptable> Pricey, he wants it not to work basically. hence pipe-grep-minus-v is his only solution
[12:47] <iptable> Joel, ^
[12:47] <Nothing_Much> Now where the HELL do I patch this thing?
[12:47] <Pricey> Joel: So you want to match against the entire directory path? '-name' only matches against the file/directory name.
[12:47] <iptable> Nothing_Much, cat the file!!!
[12:47] <Nothing_Much> I DID
[12:47] <iptable> Nothing_Much, and read what it says
[12:47] <Nothing_Much> Okay
[12:48] <Pricey> Joel: See this is going to get really ambiguous, really quickly... absolute or relative paths for example?
[12:48] <iptable> :/
[12:48] <Pricey> iptable: Are you familiar with the issue or just repeating my advice?
[12:48] <Nothing_Much> iptable: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7658235/ Here's what it says
[12:49] <Joel> Pricey, full path
[12:49] <iptable> Pricey, I did advice grep -v ages ago, but he wouldn't listen
[12:49] <iptable> Pricey, and he is spamming other channels with the same thing
[12:49] <iptable> Nothing_Much, so what's the problem?
[12:49] <Pricey> Joel: Note that your starting point of 'find .' doesn't provide full paths in the output.
[12:49] <iptable> Nothing_Much, as per the output, the file you are patching is b/drivers/gpu/drm/radeon/trinity_dpm.c
[12:50] <Nothing_Much> iptable: .... I'm not understanding where I'm supposed to put it
[12:50] <Pricey> iptable: Nope.
[12:50] <Pricey> Nothing_Much: That file describes a change to an existing file.
[12:50] <Nothing_Much> I don't see it in the kernel source in that linux-3.13.0 folder!
[12:50] <Joel> Pricey, that's fine
[12:50] <iptable> Nothing_Much, look at lines 6 to 15. The stuff that doesn't have a (+) at the start is what is alrady there. you have to insert the 3 lines with the (+) at th start (+ mwans insert these) in between what's already there
[12:50] <Pricey> Nothing_Much: It isn't meant to be placed anywhere. Instead it tells something ('patch', you) how to make some changes to a file. It lists where the file is, what lines and the context of the change as well as the change to make.
[12:50] <Joel> Pricey, find . -not -wholename './node_modules' -exec echo {} \; still doesn't work for me
[12:51] <iptable> Pricey, nope what?
[12:51] <Pricey> Joel: What about -path ?
[12:51] <iptable> Nothing_Much, if that file doesn't exist, then maybe the patch is not for your kernel?
[12:52] <Joel> Pricey, got it find . -not -wholename '*node_modules*' -exec echo {} \;
[12:52] <iptable> Nothing_Much, find ./ -name "trinity_dpm.c"
[12:52] <Pricey> Joel: Also, why -exec echo {} \; and not -print ?
[12:52] <iptable> does that find it
[12:52] <Joel> Pricey, because I'm testing, and I'm about to add some real commands to exec.
[12:52] <iptable> Pricey, why echo or print at all?
[12:53] <Pricey> Joel: Awesome.
[12:54] <Nothing_Much> iptable: I figured out where the folder is
[12:54] <Nothing_Much> But now I'm getting permission denied
[12:54] <Nothing_Much> Even with sudo
[12:54] <iptable> Nothing_Much, right, now apply the patch.
[12:55] <iptable> Nothing_Much, uhm, waht's your sudo command EXACTLY?
[12:55] <Nothing_Much> sudo diff -uNr > trinity_dpm.c /home/nothing_much/Documents/fdo72921.diff iptable
[12:56] <iptable> Nothing_Much, you are running diff as sudo
[12:56] <iptable> Nothing_Much, your > and your file writing is NOT sudo
[12:56] <iptable> Nothing_Much, easiest option: sudo -i (that will make you root) and execute that command then.
[12:57]  * iptable goes away for a while
[12:57] <Pricey> Nothing_Much: Why are you using diff? That's overwriting the source file with nothing.
[12:57] <Pricey> Nothing_Much: diff is used to generate patches, not to apply them.
[12:58] <jackbrown> hello there I'm trying to make it works on linux a thermal printer that is recognized as IEEE-1284 usb controller   lsusb = Bus 003 Device 004: ID 067b:2305 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2305 Parallel Port printer model GWP-80 thermal printer"
[12:58] <iptable> Nothing_Much, and use patch, not diff. or manually edit the lines and insert them. I told you already how, now read the man pages, google for howtos and figure it out. we got you 99% of the way already
[12:58] <iptable> jackbrown, we covered that already
[12:58] <iptable> jackbrown, on another channel as well as this one
[12:59] <iptable> jackbrown, repeating every hour or so won't get you any further
[12:59] <jackbrown> iptable: thanks I was asking if someone ele maybe knows how to do that
[13:01] <Pricey> jackbrown: Repeat all you like! Maybe someone'll appear. You might want to explain what you've tried, what is and isn't working. pastebin things etc.
[13:02] <Nothing_Much> iptable: I'll just add it manually then
[13:02] <jackbrown> Pricey: thanks
[13:02] <jackbrown>  thermal printer that is recognized as IEEE-1284 usb controller   lsusb = Bus 003 Device 004: ID 067b:2305 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2305 Parallel Port printer model GWP-80 thermal printer"
[13:03] <Nothing_Much> iptable: I only add the lines with +'s in them right?
[13:04] <iptable> Nothing_Much, yes. don't add the + though
[13:05] <Nothing_Much> iptable: Alright, does it matter where it goes or can it just go at the bottom of the file?
[13:06] <iptable> Nothing_Much, as previouslyt stated twice by myself, the lines go BETWEEN the ones that don't have the +
[13:06] <Nothing_Much> Ah okay, sorry
[13:06] <iptable> Nothing_Much, hence you have more lines there. so you can identify where to put the lines with the +
[13:08] <vooze> Hi, I'm trying to setup a static ip on my ubuntu-server (14.04) and I cant figure out whats wrong.. It just keeps going to dhcp. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7658323/ can you help me?
[13:08] <phunyguy> vooze: did you restart the networking service?
[13:08] <jellow> can anyone recommend an easy way for to ubuntu machines to share sound ?
[13:08] <phunyguy> `sudo service networking restart`
[13:08] <vooze> phunyguy i just rebooted to make sure
[13:08] <Pricey> jellow: pulseaudio can send sound around.
[13:08] <phunyguy> OH you have dhcp specified in that file
[13:09] <phunyguy> vooze: line 27, change dhcp to manual
[13:09] <phunyguy> (I think)
[13:09] <jellow> Pricey, I'v been trying that not had any success
[13:09] <vooze> phunyguy oh lol, i see :P 2 secs
[13:09] <phunyguy> let me make sure manual is the right thing...
[13:09] <Pricey> jellow: What've you tried and what hasn't worked?
[13:09] <vooze> phunyguy i changed it to static
[13:09] <iptable> vooze, iface em1 inet dhcp
[13:10] <phunyguy> vooze: s/manual/static/
[13:10] <iptable> vooze, that line, change to: iface em1 inet static
[13:11] <kahootbird> Hi guys, I have a question about restoring a backup from a bz2 file. I'd rather not repartition my drive if I don't have to and just mount it. I followed this ubuntu backup tutorial a few years back: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087 is there anyway i can extract the contents or mount?
[13:11] <vooze> iptable and phunyguy that did the trick. Thank you :)
[13:12] <vooze> feeling quite stupid for missing that :(
[13:12] <phunyguy> it happens :)
[13:12] <phunyguy> I missed it too the first time around
[13:13] <jellow> Pricey, I want to share sound from a laptop on my network , A tutorial said on the server edit /etc/default/pulseaudio and load-modules , the latter command does not exist ( link to tutorial http://manurevah.com/blah/en/p/PulseAudio-Sound-over-the-network )
[13:13] <FilipNortic> does anyone know what this message in mail.warn means?:   opendkim[1026]: 0BD39C2D50: no signature data
[13:14] <jellow> Pricey, on the client I've installed paprefs and restarted pulseaudio I still do not hear sound from the server.
[13:14] <Pricey> jellow: Which command doesn't exist?
[13:15] <Pricey> jellow: Do you have a desktop manager installed? If so you needn't edit any files... paprefs will do it all.
[13:15] <iptable> jellow, pactl load-module or pacmd load-module should do that
[13:15] <iptable> jellow, btw, it says you should add the load-module as lines to a config file, not run them
[13:16] <Pricey> http://askubuntu.com/questions/28039/how-to-stream-music-over-the-network-to-multiple-computers suggests that isn't necessary if you're running a dm..
[13:23] <vooze> Okay, after setting it up iptable and phunyguy i can SSH to it fine, with 192.168.0.99 but now the inet is not working on it. So i can't sudo apt-get update etc. - Is there anything else i might be missing? :/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/7658380/
[13:24] <hsnopi> Good Morning all. If I install libxml2 because of USN-2214-3, do I need to restart the machine? This is a production server.
[13:24] <iptable> vooze, DNS settings
[13:24] <iptable> vooze, in your interfaces file add: dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8
[13:25] <vooze> iptable do I have to that? The DNS is setup in the router
[13:25] <iptable> vooze, if you don't have resolvconf installed, then instead edit /etc/resolv.conf and add this to it: nameserver 8.8.8.8
[13:25] <iptable> vooze, yes, but your linux box doesn't know that
[13:25] <ddaysword> what do I need for 32 bit cross compiliation on x86_64 12.04?
[13:25] <iptable> vooze, if your router does DNS, you can point the nameserver to the router IP instead of 8.8.8.8
[13:26] <iptable> vooze, but you do need to tell it that...
[13:26] <vooze> So i just write dns-nameserver 192.168.0.1?
[13:26] <vooze> dns-nameservers *
[13:29] <iptable> vooze, in interfaces file, yes
[13:29] <iptable> vooze, and rstart the interface. that' assuming you have resolvconf package installed
[13:29] <iptable> vooze, if you don't then instead edit /etc/resolv.conf and add this line: nameserver 192.168.0.1
[13:30] <iptable> vooze, to find out if you have resolvconf, cat /etc/resolv.conf and if you see it say "DO NOT EDIT MANUALLY", you have resolvconf
[13:32] <bbb_dog> excuse me,anybody know how to update the mpd db?
[13:33] <vooze> iptable and now its working. Thank you again :)
[13:33] <iptable> vooze, no probs
[13:34] <skfax> Is it possible to use "apt-get install <package>" in some way such that I can specify a package name, then download that package + dependencies as deb files such that they easily can be transferred and installed on another (almost identical) machine?
[13:34] <arcimboldo> hi all, is there a way to ask libvirt to save the status of a vm during shutdown of the physical node? (and restart the vm after startup)
[13:34] <Nach0z> skfax: you could apt-get install <package> then note the package name and the dependent package names that it installs, and download the .deb files manually
[13:35] <Nach0z> apart from that I don't think so
[13:35] <hsnopi> Good Morning all. If I install libxml2 because of USN-2214-3, do I need to restart the machine? This is a production server.
[13:35] <iptable> skfax, apt-get install, note package names, get the packages after the install from your package cache on that machine
[13:35] <iptable> skfax, it's in /var/cache/apt I think
[13:36] <skfax> Nach0z: iptable: cheers
[13:36] <iptable> skfax, no probs
[13:37] <fransi> hi there, any one can help please ..i have ubuntu with sftp enabled, users are able to sftp and ssh to the server, but unable to scp files ... [14:13] <fransi> error message : The services allows SFTP connection only
[13:37] <jrib> hsnopi: you'd probably need to at least restart any services that use it.  Safe bet is to reboot
[13:37] <hsnopi> jrib: thanks, That's what I figured, I just wanted to be sure before recommending a Maint Window. I got set up as the sysadmin somehow so I'm learning a lot ont he fly.
[13:38] <iptable> fransi, check your sshd_config
[13:38] <fransi> which part should I check?
[13:39] <iptable> fransi, uhm, the whole thing
[13:39] <iptable> fransi, read it
[13:39] <iptable> fransi, it's more-or-less English
[13:40] <fransi> thanks for the great hint
[13:41] <Nothing_Much> Why do I keep getting permission denied????
[13:41] <Nothing_Much> make menuconfig for compiling a Linux kernel
[13:41] <hsnopi> sudo
[13:41] <Nothing_Much> oh NOW it works
[13:42] <sha1sum> If an init script is failing to start a service, is there any way to look at some kind of log to tell why? The init script in question is for tomcat but There's nothing hitting the catalina log file (and I checked its permissions)
[13:43] <iptable> sha1sum, for tomcat no. it's a hit and miss thing :/ typically try to execute startup lines manually that arei n the startup script
[13:43] <garheade> 6
[13:43]  * iptable goes away now
[13:47] <sha1sum> iptable: thanks :)
[13:57] <Hix> Hi, been trying to upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 but it fails. tail of terminal shows "SystemError: E:Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkgdpk returned an error code (2)" anyone got any ideas?
[13:58] <Hix> sorry typo there SystemError: E:Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[13:58] <iptable> Hix, a few lines above you have actually error. look at the last 20 lines of that output very carefully.
[13:59] <rootpt> i've got problems with wireless in my laptop
[13:59] <rootpt> can some one help me please.
[13:59] <Hix> iptable Cannot get debconf verion...
[13:59] <rootpt> ifconfig only shows "lo"
[14:00] <iptable> Hix, and other lines
[14:00] <rootpt> i've got problems with wireless in my laptop, can some one help me please? ifconfig only shows "lo"
[14:00] <iptable> Hix, if you copy the last (as manny as possible) and stick them in pastebin for us, it will helpe people here help you
[14:00] <Hix> iptable I can only scrollback so far, on a headless server
[14:01] <iptable> rootpt, use the GUI tool. ifconfig will show more once you get wireless established
[14:01] <iptable> rootpt, ifconfig -a <= shows all
[14:01] <Hix> will see if I can ssh from work machine and post results
[14:01] <iptable> Hix ssh to it?
[14:01] <iptable> oh
[14:01] <iptable> yes,
[14:02] <Guest52367> hello! i am using an hp mini 110 and i only just tried xubuntu for the first time. my wifi is not working? should i install xubuntu first?
[14:04] <rootpt> iptable i write ifconfig -a and shows all
[14:04] <rootpt> but i think its turned off, i don't know..
[14:04] <rootpt> what can i do?
[14:05] <Hix> not hardware wsitch on laptop is it? I've seen that a lot before rootpt [just checking]
[14:05] <rootpt> the network settings disapear from menu next to clock
[14:05] <Hix> k
[14:05] <rootpt> Hix im sure not..
[14:06] <rootpt> i uninstall aplications and i think i uninstall to much
[14:07] <rootpt> :X
[14:07] <rootpt> now, the wireless disapear
[14:09] <Hix> iptable seems to be pointing towards /var/lib/dpkg/status "E: Unable to parse package file /var/lib/dpkg/status (1)
[14:09] <Hix> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[14:09] <Hix> "
[14:10] <helmut_> i
[14:10] <helmut_> hi
[14:10] <dbugger> Hey guys. When I install phpmyadmin, i can locate it on "http://123.123.123.123/phpmyadmin", but how could I configure it so that it can also be found under a subdomain of my bought doman (i.e. phpmyadmin.dbugger.com) ?
[14:10] <rootpt> i try to do lspci | grep -i wireless and shows me nothing :X
[14:11] <niufox_> just lspci
[14:11] <rootpt> lshw -C network output: shows network disabled
[14:11] <rootpt> ok niufox_
[14:12] <rootpt> lspci show a bunch of things
[14:12] <rootpt> it shows wifi
[14:12] <rootpt> network controller : realteak
[14:13] <rootpt> wifi adapter
[14:14] <niufox_> ifconfig
[14:15] <guest-QOrst5> hi. cannot log onto my account. The message is: AH00558: could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name 127.0.1.1.. Set the server name directive globally to surpress this . Redhead messageSTARTING ADAPTIVE DEMON PRELOAD
[14:15] <guest-QOrst5> any suggestion?
[14:16] <rootpt> niufox_ ifconfig only shows "lo" options
[14:20] <qingxp9> hello everyone
[14:20] <brettc> hi all
[14:21] <brettc> I'm trying to run ubuntu instances in AWS and am getting HTTP 403's when I try install packages
[14:21] <airliquide> gest-QOrst5 : where do you get this error message ? In the login screen ?
[14:21] <brettc> i've found similar issues: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/987182
[14:22] <brettc> and I'm using the "apt" chef cookbook to install packages...
[14:22] <Morgawr> hello, I would like to know, is the "zenity" utility installed by default on a default ubuntu installation?
[14:23] <Morgawr> actually, a more productive question, where can I find the list of installed packages by default on ubuntu? is there a list somewhere (Website or whatnot)?
[14:23] <guest-QOrst5> airliquide immidiately after the password, the display goes black with this message for a second, and I am back on the login
[14:24] <guest-QOrst5> to the guest accoung I can login, and when want to switch the user, , after the password, the same
[14:24] <Fuchs> Morgawr: http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/trusty/ubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.manifest  <<
[14:24] <Morgawr> Fuchs: awesome, thanks!
[14:25] <Fuchs> Morgawr: also available for older releases or kubuntu/lubuntu/xubuntu etc. pp.
[14:25] <Fuchs> you're welcome
[14:25] <guest-QOrst5> only then the message is static (doesn't drop me back to the login)
[14:26] <airliquide> guest-QOrst5 can you connect you from the terminial to this user ?
[14:27] <guest-QOrst5> don't know how
[14:27] <guest-QOrst5> what is the command line airliquide?
[14:28] <airliquide> su - usename
[14:28] <airliquide> after put you pass word
[14:29] <guest-QOrst5> airliquide "operation not allowed"
[14:29] <airliquide> switch to mp ?
[14:29] <guest-QOrst5> mp?
[14:30] <airliquide> private message I've send you one
[14:33] <legriffon> hi people i'm root
[14:34] <legriffon> Meerkat hw r u ?
[14:35] <legriffon> _Jae___ hey mann
[14:35] <legriffon> techa slt
[14:39] <brettc> fixed it. was using an old apt cookbook,.
[14:41] <one23> hello! trying to make vncserver up and runing i followed a tutorial and give some commands in terminal. one of them changed the interface, the look, login screen, icons. does anybody know how do i get back to default interface in ubuntu 14.04?
[14:43] <Grefor> i have a ralink2571w wifi card how to install driver
[14:43] <holstein> !wifi
[14:44] <holstein> Grefor: first, determine if there is a driver.. most devices have driver support built in to the modular kernel
[14:45] <Grefor> it says firmware missing so i assume the driver isnt built in
[14:46] <holstein> Grefor: it? it "is" offering to install 3rd party firmware?
[14:47] <Grefor> not sure im very new to linux
[14:47] <holstein> !wifi | Grefor
[14:48] <holstein> ^ thats where i usually start, if i dont have suppported hardware i can just plug in and use
[14:49] <airliquide> guest-QOrst5 still have a connection issue I've try to help him in PM but does not work ! Could someone help him ?
[14:49] <Grefor> yes its listed in supported cards asus wl167g with a ralink 2571w chip
[14:49] <sydney> How do i fix the bad animation when i click on the bottom bar without disabling all effects? https://s3.amazonaws.com/tranouput/140301638253a054c9e3c6c
[14:50] <holstein> Grefor: seems to me like it should just work... where are you seeing what message?
[14:52] <Grefor> buttom right
[14:52] <Grefor> bottom right
[14:53] <holstein> Grefor: the bottom right of what, friend? you mean, in the nm-applet? the one running as root?
[14:53] <intok> What do I need if I want to get the Radeon VCE hardware transcoder working in 14.04?
[14:53] <holstein> Grefor: sorry, that was another user running as root.. but, it is in the nm-applet?
[14:53] <Grefor> i dont know the terminolgy for things
[14:54] <Grefor> it could menu bar i guess
[14:54] <holstein> intok: ideally, support from the manufacturer.. i usually start by just plugging it in.. and i'll use live CD's to test, so i can really set settings and not "break" anything.. assuming i dont need to load a kernel module
[14:54] <Grefor> besides a cpu load graph
[14:55] <intok> holstein what?
[14:55] <holstein> Grefor: what would i do? wire up .. open a terminal and apply any/all system upgrades using "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" command
[14:55] <Grefor> its really old i dont have the cd anymore lol
[14:56] <holstein> intok: im saying, when i have hardware that is not promised to support linux, i usually just plug it in.. is it plugged it? if so, if it doesnt just work, i usually start by loading live cd's so i can see how other kernels react with the hardware
[14:56] <intok> holstein It's supposed to work with the OSS Radeon drivers, I've got the proper hardware, I just need to know what packages are needed and how to get it running, theres nothing on it via Google but the Phoronix articles announcing that it works
[14:56] <holstein> Grefor: you dont need any cd anymore.. the cd likely has windows drivers on it..
[14:56] <Grefor> i just dit update no luck there iv got the driver source i think
[14:57] <holstein> intok: sure.. but, unless ati says "we support the open source radeon drivers" you really never know
[14:57] <newtolinuxubuntu> hi. how do i transfer music from ubuntu to my nexus 5 ?
[14:57] <intok> holstein Which they have, they released the docs, hired the devs and released most of the code
[14:58] <holstein> intok: ok.. then, they provide official support? if so, they would be who i would ask.. otherwise, if its just a typical community port, it'll be up to us..
[14:59] <atrioom> <3
[14:59] <newtolinuxubuntu> hi. how do i transfer music from ubuntu to my nexus 5 ? pls help. try many suggestions available from the internet but none is working, also try Amarok but it is not detecting the device
[15:00] <intok> holstein At which point it's up to the Canonical team to package the work and release it
[15:01] <holstein> newtolinuxubuntu: i either just plug the thing in, if its supports that, or use a sharing client.. i always liked airdroid http://www.pcworld.com/article/2087891/how-to-easily-swap-files-between-your-pc-and-android-device-with-airdroid.html
[15:02] <holstein> intok: sure. you say you are using it, correct? you have the device plugged in? and the driver is loaded? are you meeting the official requirements?
[15:02] <ardan_> anyone use Skype on Linux and not the debian package from skype.com (which blows)
[15:03] <holstein> !skype
[15:03] <jack> ardan_, might well be alternative-less
[15:04] <jack> skype is proprietary
[15:04] <ardan_> i figured. damn microsoft product. skype used to have an open API ( i remember logging in with web clients)
[15:04] <newtolinuxubuntu> holstein: airdroid is not free, any other solutions please?
[15:04] <ardan_> Skype is probably the worst application i've used on ubuntuo.
[15:05] <jack> :P
[15:05] <Etherus_> Hello everyone, I have a question about networking. I have a server with two network cards one network card is connected to the internet with a static ip and the second network card I want to use for cloudstack with a 10.x range. How can I make it so my 10.x range can connect to the internet over my eth1 card that has a static ip?
[15:05] <Joy21>  Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://bit.ly/SQqhAX
[15:05] <holstein> newtolinuxubuntu: anything android would suggest.. or another "free" alternative.. though, i didnt pay for airdroid...
[15:07] <SchrodingersScat> newtolinuxubuntu: it's not free, but there's no charge to install
[15:08] <guest-lQTbC8> .
[15:08] <brunojcm> hey everyone!
[15:08] <newtolinuxubuntu> holstein scrodingerscar open source way pls, trying to keep it free
[15:08] <intok> holstein It's part of the Radeon GPUs, it's a dedicated transcoding chip built right into it. They got it working with the OSS drivers back in February. The Canonical team for 14.04 has already released the VDPAU video decode work as a backport for these GPUs I can't find anything on the transcoder chip having been packaged up yet. Even if it isn't put out by Canonical is there anyone outside of the experimental stuff in the O
[15:08] <brunojcm> i am using ubuntu 12.04
[15:08] <brunojcm> and i want to compile eglibc-2.15 using 32 bits i386
[15:09] <SchrodingersScat> newtolinuxubuntu: I don't think there's a phone for that yet.
[15:09] <brunojcm> can anyone give any help on how to do this?
[15:09] <holstein> newtolinuxubuntu: there are many options in the android store.. search for open ones.. and use one..
[15:09] <guest-lQTbC8> hi again. need help as cannot log onto my ubuntu account: AH00558: apache 2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1. Set the server name directive globally to surpress this message. Starting adaptive redhead demon preload 2689. 683921 mei_me 0000:00:16.0: suspended
[15:09] <guest-lQTbC8> any help appreciated
[15:10] <holstein> newtolinuxubuntu: a casual search found https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.MarcosDiez.shareviahttp
[15:10] <Pici> guest-lQTbC8: Those aren't errors.  I suspect that you are seeing those becuase your display driver is failing somehow and you are seeing one of the virtuall ttys.
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> guest-lQTbC8: how is apache linked to the user account not being able to log in?
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> guest-lQTbC8: they are 2 totally seperate things......
[15:10] <Cuy> Hello!
[15:11] <guest-lQTbC8> Pici how can i than be loged on as guest?
[15:11] <guest-lQTbC8> if it's about the display
[15:11] <guest-lQTbC8> driver
[15:11] <Pici> guest-lQTbC8: When did this start happening?
[15:12] <guest-lQTbC8> just today
[15:12] <newtolinuxubuntu> holstein ok
[15:12] <newtolinuxubuntu> schrodinger what
[15:12] <sydney>  How do i fix the bad animation when i click on the bottom bar without disabling all effects? https://s3.amazonaws.com/tranouput/140301638253a054c9e3c6c Thanks!!
[15:12] <Pici> guest-lQTbC8: Did you do something before this started happening?
[15:12] <Etherus> Is it a bridge i need to setup o something else?
[15:12] <zetheroo1> is there a command to queue up a few rsync jobs?
[15:13] <guest-lQTbC8> noup
[15:13] <guest-lQTbC8> did not change the pass
[15:14] <guest-lQTbC8> tried su -(username)
[15:14] <guest-lQTbC8> from the terminal
[15:14] <Cuy> maybe someone here can help me - I have installed BackupPC, server and client connect, there are literally thousands of megabytes sent between them, but nothing is written to the backup server. I run the program as the user "backuppc" (as was suggested by the program's documentation) but I don't seem to get the right permissions for this user, even after adding it to the sudoers file with root privileges. What else can I do?
[15:14] <guest-lQTbC8> is there a way to cahange the password from within the terminal?
[15:15] <Fuchs> guest-lQTbC8: yes, with the passwd   command
[15:15] <Fuchs> guest-lQTbC8: takes the username as an argument
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> guest-lQTbC8: su -     will not work as there is no root password and the account is loced down
[15:17] <jack> sudo su -
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> jack: sudo -s
[15:17] <Pici> jack: also won't work from a guest account.
[15:17] <Phlogistique> Hi
[15:17] <jack> ...or that, sure
[15:17] <Phlogistique> I would like to use Upstart within a chroot to start services
[15:18] <Phlogistique> however, when running "init 5", I get this error: init: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused
[15:18] <Phlogistique> I can not figure how to do it.
[15:18] <Phlogistique> The host system is not Ubuntu
[15:19] <Cuy> :q
[15:19] <fernando__> hi helo
[15:20] <citrix> Hii all
[15:21] <fernando__> hi citrix
[15:21] <citrix> Till 5 hrs before my audio was working fine but now no audio here
[15:21] <guest-lQTbC8> ActionParsnip Fuchs Pici jack so is there a way or not?
[15:22] <citrix> i checked all alsa mixers volume and ever stuff i know
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> guest-lQTbC8: to what?
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> guest-lQTbC8: is there a way to do what?
[15:23] <guest-lQTbC8> to change the password of the user from the guest account from within the terminal
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> guest-lQTbC8: no as the guest account does not have admin access.
[15:23] <jack> passwd? :P
[15:23] <guest-lQTbC8> did not change it
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> guest-lQTbC8: you could su to another user from the guest account, to one which has suo access and reset your user password there
[15:24] <guest-lQTbC8> the machine is mine
[15:24] <citrix> any suggestions for how to make my speakers work
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> guest-lQTbC8: so?
[15:24] <citrix> ?
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> guest-lQTbC8: your system can hold literally billions of accounts.....how is ownership a factor?
[15:24] <holstein> guest will not have permission to change passwords.. i would use the recovery console, guest-lQTbC8
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> guest-lQTbC8: if you only have one account, you can use this guide and reset your password in a root console: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[15:25] <guest-lQTbC8> i mean, is weird as i didn't change the password
[15:25] <lastarms> citrix: no offense but, care to try restarting your computer?
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> guest-lQTbC8: well someone with access in whatever ways you have enable / configured, has set it
[15:26] <citrix> lastarms, I did tht also but still same problem, no volume in vlc and nor in youtube videos
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> guest-lQTbC8: why is ownership a factor? I have many machines, all with a smattering of users who could possibly use the passwd command on my account. Doesn't mean anything that you own the hardware
[15:27] <lastarms> citrix: try checking if you updated something
[15:27] <arcimboldo> is there a way to tell libvirt-bin to save the status of a VM at shutdown?
[15:27] <citrix> I didn't .. :(
[15:28] <guest-lQTbC8> ActionParsnip i mentioned that cause this could have been a stolen machine and I wanted to break in
[15:28] <holstein> guest-lQTbC8: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword will reset the password.. not the guest account
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> citrix: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[15:28] <lastarms> citrix: the only think I can think of that changes audio settings are something that meddles with the libraries
[15:29] <lastarms> citrix: which means that something must have been changed...
[15:29] <emmanuel_> hi
[15:29] <lastarms> hi emmanuel_
[15:29] <boy_wanders> anyone here know how to solve a mouse not clicking on windows until I log out and log back in?
[15:29] <citrix> ActionParsnip, is that the link to install some thing?
[15:30] <emmanuel_> trying to install hostapd
[15:30] <boy_wanders> Madcatz R.A.T 3 for reference
[15:30] <lastarms> boy_wanders: ermm... how does that have anything to do with Ubuntu?
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> citrix: the link is part of the command I gave
[15:30] <guest-lQTbC8> ActionParsnip cracked minecraft couldn't have cause it?
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> citrix: it will give a tonne of sound system infrmation, we can then advise better
[15:30] <boy_wanders> lastarms well it works in windows and it can only click on the side bar and top bar in ubuntu so yes
[15:31] <lastarms> boy_wanders: try doing a full shutdown before you start back to Ubuntu
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> guest-lQTbC8: doubt it, the psychocats link I gave will show you how to reset your user pass
[15:31] <lastarms> boy_wanders: if needed, ensure that the power is completely off
[15:31] <Na3iL> hello all :D
[15:31] <lastarms> Hi Na3iL
[15:31] <citrix> yes it is showing informtion ActionParsnip
[15:31] <boy_wanders> I have tried disconnecting my computer from the mains, it still doesn't solve anything
[15:31] <guest-lQTbC8> ActionPArsnip and holstein thanks a million (if it'll work)
[15:32] <Na3iL> hiya lastarms hows u
[15:32] <emmanuel_> my lspci -k | grep -A 3 -i "network" is  Kernel driver in use: bcma-pci-bridge. will hostapd work
[15:32] <lastarms> your mouse works on Windows but not in Ubuntu?
[15:32] <lastarms> boy_wanders: what mouse is it?
[15:32] <citrix> ActionParsnip,  http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=72c0f18f087a2200571735d32f62028fe54aa1e7
[15:32] <Na3iL> it's a nice day for opening ubuntu and get a cup of coffee xD & of course some hacking tips
[15:32] <lastarms> Na3iL: not so good... using 3G to chat here is a little horrible
[15:32] <boy_wanders> when I first sign in I can click applications on the taskbar to start them but when the program runs I can't click anything in it
[15:32] <boy_wanders> to solve I have to log out and back in
[15:32] <lastarms> Na3iL: bad 3G too... MOSh is helping though
[15:32] <emmanuel_> tried many times but didnt work wondr why
[15:33] <boy_wanders> at which point it works
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> citrix: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[15:33] <Na3iL> not olny u lastarms, here too in TUNISIA 3G is tottaly horrible
[15:33] <lastarms> boy_wanders: what mouse are you using?
[15:33] <boy_wanders> lastarms, Madcats rat 3
[15:33] <lastarms> Na3iL: I'm in Indonesia.... 3G here is 2G in America...
[15:33] <citrix> Bodhi 2.0.0 \n \l ActionParsnip
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> citrix: not supported here
[15:34] <emmanuel_> im using ubuntu 14.04 alTS
[15:34] <lastarms> boy_wanders: lolz sorry I have no clue what that is, and no way to use google... is that usb mouse? ps2? smart mouse? or built-in?
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> !bodhi
[15:34] <Na3iL> lol xD in tunisia 3G is like edge xD lastarms
[15:34] <citrix> ActionParsnip, but using ubuntu repos
[15:34] <boy_wanders> USB gaming mouse with a variable DPI
[15:34] <lastarms> Na3iL: hehe you feel my pain then
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> citrix: doesnt matter, this is ubuntu support
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> citrix: you arent using ubuntu
[15:34] <lastarms> boy_wanders: connected via cable?
[15:34] <boy_wanders> yes
[15:35] <Na3iL> lastarms,  yup bro same feeling absuletly
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> citrix: there in #bodhilinux where your distribution is supported
[15:35] <lastarms> boy_wanders: might be the drivers then... try looking online for a driver that is compatible with it
[15:35] <priuon> what good alternatives to python can 'you recommend' / 'ubuntu offer' ?
[15:35] <citrix> ActionParsnip, can you still give me any suggestion
[15:35] <m__> 0
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> citrix: yes, join #bodhilinux
[15:35] <boy_wanders> lastarms, I'll go look and I will return with an update :)
[15:35] <lastarms> boy_wanders: I hope you find it
[15:36] <boy_wanders> thank you :)
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> !derivatives | citrix
[15:36] <citrix> Ok
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> citrix: none of the 'ubuntu based' distributions are supported by the Ubuntu community, it has its own community. Just as Ubuntu is based on Debian, the Debain community will not support Ubuntu
[15:38] <lastarms> citrix: might sound harsh, but the truth is they will be able to help you more than us here
[15:38] <Na3iL> who knows here how to work with GDB GNU DeBugger ? any advices or tips for it ?
[15:38] <lastarms> citrix: some derivatives actually change a lot of core libraries and kernels...
[15:38] <citrix> Okk
[15:39] <lastarms> citrix: makes it hard for people to help because it doesn't affect other distros
[15:39] <citrix> but all the ubuntu fashion is followed on bodhi
[15:39] <lastarms> citrix: kinda a reason why many people hates Unity but still uses Ubuntu
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> citrix: still not supported here, Bodhi has its own community and support network which is seperate to Ubuntu's
[15:39] <hotsatellite> !ppa
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> lastarms: you dont have to use Unity in Ubuntu
[15:40] <lastarms> ActionParsnip: yep. It comes preinstalled with it though. The Desktop anyway
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> lastarms: install minimal then install what you want.....
[15:40] <lastarms> ActionParsnip: There are many Linux users who are not experts and have no idea that they can uninstall Unity and install gnome etc
[15:41] <lastarms> ActionParsnip: regardless they'll use Ubuntu just for the support
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> lastarms: when you use Unity, you are using Gnome
[15:41] <citrix> ActionParsnip, I installed bodhi as it is suitable i read over some where for netbooks
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> lastarms: Unity is a plugin for Compiz, you are still  using the Gnome DE
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> citrix: thats fine
[15:42] <lastarms> Na3iL: try googling for a guide. will be much better than asking here
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> citrix: Lubuntu is great for low end PCs, and is supported here
[15:42] <lastarms> ActionParsnip: oh! I didn't know that.
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> lastarms: I believe they are working on Unity being a DE but its still as it was
[15:43] <citrix> I will try it.
[15:43] <Na3iL> lastarms, I did it already but nothing interssted , I didn't find any tuto for it which how u can crack a program or get the password  for this program using assembly
[15:43] <lastarms> Na3iL: huh? you're trying to use GDB for what?
[15:44] <lastarms> ActionParsnip: I see... it's been a while since I have a computer that can run the Desktop version of Ubuntu... I guess it's still a skin then?
[15:44] <lastarms> ActionParsnip: although, how come it's "heavier" than gnome?
[15:44] <lastarms> ActionParsnip: or is that false information too?
[15:45] <Na3iL> lastarms, I'm an ethical hacker I use it only for some education pruposes
[15:46] <lastarms> Using GDB to crack a program? I didn't know that that's possible...
[15:47] <lastarms> You have to have the source code to compile the program to be debuggable to be readable to GDB
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> lastarms: yes its just a shell. You can diable Unity and install gnome-panel if you like.
[15:47] <brunojcm> hey everyone! i am using ubuntu 12.04 and i want to compile eglibc-2.15 using 32 bits i386. can anyone give any help on how to do this?
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> lastarms: its heavier because (as far as I know) the default WM in Gnome is mutter, rather than fat, slow Compiz
[15:47] <lastarms> ActionParsnip: I'll tell that to the next people that tels me they hate unity
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> lastarms: I just hate compiz.
[15:48] <Na3iL> well lastarms u can get the code source of any program using gdb on linux distros and u can use OllyDbg on winbug
[15:48] <lastarms> ActionParsnip: that make sense, compiz is really heavy even on an i7 computer...
[15:48] <lastarms> brunojcm: I don't get your question
[15:49] <lastarms> brunojcm: you are using 12.04 32-bit? and you want to compile 32 bit
[15:49] <lastarms> if not then you have to install the 32-bit libraries
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> lastarms: I just find it unstable. I'm an OpenBox guy :)
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> !away > dkn64738_afk
[15:50] <lastarms> ActionParsnip: I like openbox. except that I keep deleting my system without backing up the configuration
[15:50] <emmanuel_> trying to install hostapd, my lspci -k | grep -A 3 -i "network" is  Kernel driver in use: bcma-pci-bridge. will hostapd work? tried many times but didnt work wonder why
[15:50] <lastarms> ActionParsnip: and reconfiguring your preferences from scratch is a hassle
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> lastarms: i guess, backups are handy though :)
[15:51] <lastarms> ActionParsnip: true... unless your hdd dies... *sigh*
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> lastarms: thats why we have backups....USB drives are super cheap, as is dropbox storage
[15:53] <lastarms> ActionParsnip: unless you live where I live. Then USB is expensive and dropbox is unusable do to our awesome internet speed... *sigh*
[15:53] <lastarms> I hate my country...
[15:55] <brunojcm> lastarms: no, i am using a 64-bit version
[15:55] <rymate1234> Any tips for speeding up ubuntu when its bring run off a USB stick?
[15:55] <lastarms> brunojcm: you need the ia32 or something like that
[15:55] <rymate1234> Ubuntu is actually installed on the stick,  not as a live cd
[15:56] <lastarms> rymate1234: not really... although, you can try using USB 3
[15:56] <brunojcm> lastarms i was using dpkg-architecture -ai386 -c dpkg-buildpackage
[15:56] <rymate1234> I don't have USB 3.0
[15:56] <lastarms> have you installed the 32-bit library?
[15:56] <rymate1234> I dunno why it's so slow a live usb ran fine
[15:57] <lastarms> rymate1234: The reason you feel slow is mostly because it's paging I would think
[15:57] <lastarms> rymate1234: you have your "home"folder there
[15:57] <rymate1234> Is there a way to reduce paging then?
[15:57] <brunojcm> lastarms: ia32-libs is installed, yes
[15:57] <brunojcm> is that what you meant?
[15:57] <lastarms> rymate1234: when you were running the live cd, it's running on RAM
[15:57] <lastarms> brunojcm: yeah
[15:57] <rymate1234> Ah that'll be why
[15:58] <rymate1234> Damn
[15:58] <lastarms> brunojcm: I'm not sure why then...
[16:01] <brunojcm> lastarms: thank you anyway! i think i will try this idea i saw on the debian wiki
[16:01] <brunojcm> with dchroot
[16:02] <emmanuel_> trying to install hostapd, my lspci -k | grep -A 3 -i "network" is  Kernel driver in use: bcma-pci-bridge. will hostapd work? tried many times but didnt work wonder why
[16:04] <lastarms> brunojcm: bests of luck!
[16:10] <sj99> Hey. I have a 2560x1440 monitor, but that resolution isn't listed in the system settings. Any help on how to fix this would be much appreciated.
[16:11] <XaT> sj99, try sudo init 0 in a terminal
[16:12] <AaronCampbell> I recently set up 14.04 on a new Asus S400C laptop. Everything seemed to work great, then today I plugged in a headset and while the sound went through the headphones, it didn't seem to recognize the Mic. It uses a single plug like modern cell phones. Anyone know what I can do to get it working with a Mic?
[16:12] <guest-Ct3tJ5> ActionParsnip was following the link
[16:12] <buratino> Was it working with previous versions of ubuntu?
[16:13] <guest-Ct3tJ5> after the command mount -0 rw, remount /, had the "manipulation error of the authentification token"
[16:13] <guest-Ct3tJ5> did ls /home anyway
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> guest-Ct3tJ5: its -o not -0
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> guest-Ct3tJ5: lowercase o for oscar
[16:13] <Pici> XaT: don't do that.
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> guest-Ct3tJ5: no space afer the comma either
[16:14] <guest-Ct3tJ5> anywas
[16:14] <guest-Ct3tJ5> after ls home
[16:14] <guest-Ct3tJ5> did passw
[16:14] <guest-Ct3tJ5> and offered me to cahnge it
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> guest-Ct3tJ5: you didnt do it right, so what did you expect
[16:15] <sj99_> Hey. Whoever suggested sudo init 0 - thanks, that led to immediate shutdown. Here's my problem again: I have a 2560x1440 resolution, but it's not listed in the system settings. Any help would be much appreciated.
[16:15] <guest-Ct3tJ5> yet, in the end the message was special device passw does not exist
[16:16] <buratino> AaronCampbell:  Did your mic work with previous versions of Ubuntu?
[16:16] <guest-Ct3tJ5> did in lowercase
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> guest-Ct3tJ5: the command is 'passwd'
[16:16] <guest-Ct3tJ5> yes
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> guest-Ct3tJ5: 'passwd foo'   if your username is 'foo'
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> guest-Ct3tJ5: but you didnt mount the file system writable, so it won't work
[16:17] <AaronCampbell> buratino: Never had previous versions on this new laptop
[16:17] <AaronCampbell> And the built-in mic works, but plugging in a headset doesn't allow you to use the mic on the headset
[16:18] <guest-Ct3tJ5> will retry it, but think I did it as in the manual
[16:18] <buratino> AaronCampbell:  What kind of headset?
[16:18] <guest-Ct3tJ5> upon the boot, it offers me a few versions of ubuntu 13
[16:18] <guest-Ct3tJ5> chosen the last one
[16:18] <AaronCampbell> Just Samsung earbuds/mic...single 1/8" jack
[16:18] <krsto> hi
[16:19] <holstein> AaronCampbell: the input either works with that input or not. could be, and typically is, the laptop has headphone *then mic input.. if joined in one jack for a phone the hardware cant use it
[16:19] <holstein> AaronCampbell: dont assume its a limitation of any software or operating system..
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> guest-Ct3tJ5: there isnt an 'ubuntu 13'
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> guest-Ct3tJ5: there is Ubuntu 13.04 and Ubuntu 13.10
[16:20] <sj99_> I have a 2560x1440 resolution, but it's not listed in the system settings. Any help would be much appreciated.
[16:20] <AaronCampbell> holstein: Well, when Windows was on the laptop the same headset worked as headphones/mic
[16:20] <krsto> i have problem with wlan interface on ubuntu server 14.04
[16:21] <holstein> AaronCampbell: ok.. then i use pavucontrol to route inputs and outputs.. try getting applications started, and route
[16:21] <krsto> there are 2 wlan cards one is realtek 8185l second is atheros 5213
[16:21] <krsto> when i did sudo ip link set wlan0 up
[16:21] <krsto> computer freezee
[16:21] <krsto> but on wlan 1 work nomal
[16:21] <buratino> AaronCampbell:  Have you installed the newest driver for your mic on ubuntu?
[16:21] <genii> krsto: Which one is the wlan0?
[16:21] <krsto> both card works fine on win xp
[16:22] <krsto> or via live lubuntu
[16:22] <holstein> krsto: xp support will be irrelevant. and only tell you the hardware is functional
[16:22] <krsto> i know that hardware is duncional
[16:22] <krsto> but i cant use it in ubuntu servrer
[16:22] <AaronCampbell> buratino: Not that I'm aware of, I've applied all updates, but not installed anythign specific for my mic
[16:23] <krsto> still it works with live lubuntu
[16:23] <krsto> i dont have a clue
[16:23] <buratino> AaronCampbell:  Do you happen to know the exact model for the headset?
[16:23] <AaronCampbell> buratino: There won't be any drivers for that...
[16:24] <buratino> AaronCampbell:  That's fine, I just want to look something up.
[16:24] <AaronCampbell> I think they're these ones: http://www.a4c.com/product/samsung-ehs44assbe-3-5mm-hands-free-stereo-headset-black.html?gclid=CPfsvJepgb8CFQODaQodxLMAng
[16:25] <buratino> AaronCampbell:  Oh, I suppose I missed where you said there was a single jack.
[16:25] <sj99_> I have a 2560x1440 resolution, but it's not listed in the system settings. Any help would be much appreciated.
[16:25] <AaronCampbell> buratino: Yeah, that's what I'm thinking the issue likely is
[16:26] <krsto> guys?
[16:26] <buratino> AaronCampbell:  That's what I'd bet.  Did the mic magically work on Windows (or any other OS)?
[16:27] <AaronCampbell> buratino: Yes, worked on Windows 8 that came on the machine
[16:28] <guy> Hi.  Since installing the proprietary nvidia drivers, DBUS doesn't seem to work.  I get "Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-ou6Johku99: Connection refused" for several applications.  dbus-daemon is running, but the temporary directory it refers to doesn't exist.
[16:29] <buratino> AaronCampbell:  What soundcard and driver are you using?
[16:29] <sj99_> Hey. I have a 2560x1440 resolution, but it's not listed in the system settings. Any help would be much appreciated.
[16:30] <varun_> krsto, show us what cards+drivers you have, the output of - "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net"
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> sj99_: how can you have it, if it's not listed?
[16:30] <Guest86260> \nick guyg
[16:30] <krsto> Ok
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> Guest86260: other way '_
[16:30] <sj99_> ActionParsnip: That's the resolution of my monitor
[16:30] <krsto> wait a second
[16:30] <buratino> AaronCampbell:  `lspci | grep -i audio` ought to find it
[16:31] <AaronCampbell> buratino: Are you asking...Thanks
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> sj99_: what is the output of:   sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a; uname -a; sudo dmidecode -t 1
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> sj99_: use a pastebin to host
[16:31] <AaronCampbell> buratino: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
[16:32] <sj99_> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/XjSBdP0P
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> sj99_: the rsolution of the monitor is whateverit is at now. the fact that your monitor can do 2560x1440 is another matter
[16:32] <krsto> varum_
[16:32] <krsto> varun_
[16:33] <krsto> where i can copy output?
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> sj99_: 13.10 is EOL in about 4 weeks time. You may want to consider an upgrade to 14.04 either by online update, or via a clean install
[16:33] <varun_> !pastebin | krsto
[16:34] <sj99_> ActionParsnip: sure, but i've had this issue in several versions. i'm not sure upgrading will solve it.
[16:34] <buratino> AaronCampbell:  I believe there's a config option you can change and test, but I don't remember what it is.  I'm looking for it now.
[16:34] <krsto> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7659242/
[16:35] <krsto> hope that i did right
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> sj99_: newer kernel....newer driver with support for newer hardware..........
[16:35] <Guest85758> I want a site to "see" me as if I am in the USA, though I am not there.  Would it be possible to use a proxy server for that?
[16:36] <sj99_> ActionParsnip: ok, i'll try. thanks.
[16:37] <varun_> krsto, is the atheros one "wlan0"?
[16:37] <krsto> yes
[16:38] <buratino> AaronCampbell:  I can't find it.  For now, can you use your internal microphone and take the issue to the forums?
[16:39] <pangaea_>  having a hard time w/ ubuntu studio 14.04 getting connected to yahoo chat, any ideas??
[16:39] <Guest85758> Am I on the right channel?
[16:39] <Guest85758> pangaea_: hard time?  Problems?  What kind of hard time?
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> pangaea_: what are you using to connect to the service?
[16:40] <pangaea_> trid pingiun, ...well all of them really from software center
[16:40] <holstein> pangaea_: is yahoo chat up? if they are down, or offline, or having server issues, you wont be able to connect.. confirm your credentials.. try the yahoo service online to confirm
[16:40] <pangaea_> just says invalid cannot connect i set my firewall and forwards up
[16:40] <holstein> pangaea_: you shouldnt need to set any firewall rules..
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> pangaea_: do you mean pidgin?
[16:41] <holstein> pangaea_: try the yahoo site..
[16:41] <pangaea_> yeah
[16:41] <MuffinMedic> I'm trying to change my hostname and i have this in /etc/hosts: 127.0.1.1       WebServices WebServices
[16:41] <pangaea_> works on firefox
[16:41] <MuffinMedic> Why is WebServices there twice and what does it represent each time?
[16:41] <holstein> pangaea_: ok.. do yahoo say you can use pidgin?
[16:41] <varun_> krsto, I know the current version of ath5k is buggy, but can't think of a reason for system freeze. Maybe a detailed report could give some hint. Try this script to generate the report : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=13024222
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> pangaea_: have you contacted Yahoo to see if their settings have changed?
[16:42] <pangaea_> pidgin won't work either
[16:42] <Pici> MuffinMedic: First is the fqdn (not really needed for internal servers) and the second is an alias.
[16:42] <krsto> varun_ Ok
[16:42] <pangaea_> i had to set up fprward on my modem, no choice w/ timewarner
[16:43] <Pici> MuffinMedic: make sure you change /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname though.
[16:43] <holstein> pangaea_: pidgin may not *ever* work.. did yahoo say it would?
[16:43] <pangaea_> pt/forward sorry
[16:43] <pangaea_> well i had ububtu 14.04 lts and it workd fine
[16:44] <pangaea_> but switched to studio cause i write music...now dead on chats
[16:44] <pangaea_> no unity scopes
[16:45] <holstein> pangaea_: ubuntustudio *is* ubuntu.. its not breaking yahoo chat
[16:45] <varunendra> krsto, I may not hang around for long here. If you can't get help, try posting a thread at ubuntuforums.org , and post the script output there. You may PM me on the forum if you wish (my user id is varunendra there)
[16:45] <pangaea_> hey holstien you helped me with jack!...thanks man got it all figured out was a pulse issue btw
[16:45] <holstein> pangaea_: whatever you used for yahoo chat in ubuntu will work with ubuntustuduio
[16:45] <pangaea_> yeah but did it through scope
[16:46] <pangaea_> unity
[16:46] <holstein> pangaea_: you can add unity and a scope if you like
[16:46] <holstein> pangaea_: but, you *can* get yahoo working with something that supports yahoo and yahoo supports
[16:46] <pangaea_> in cross platform?
[16:46] <causative> so... I have downloaded the ubuntu 14.04 iso for my system (1 G in size), I have used fdisk to partition a USB stick so it has two partitions, the second of which is marked executable and is 5G in size.  I have then done dd if=/path/to/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb2.  There is now a filesystem at /dev/sdb2 but my computer won't boot from it (yes I set it to boot from USB in BIOS)
[16:47] <causative> am I missing a step? did I do something wrong?
[16:47] <pangaea_> causitive sounds like he needs boot repair
[16:47] <causative> oh I think I see something, I had the partition marked "linux" but the image is iso9660
[16:48] <MuffinMedic> ok Pici , i will change both, thanks. can the alias be any nickname i give the server?
[16:48] <pangaea_> what do you suggest ??
[16:49] <pangaea_> only chat that works is this one...lol
[16:49] <causative> or should it be marked linux, maybe that's not wrong?
[16:49] <Pici> MuffinMedic: anything you want, although typically one is the fqdn and the other is the same without the fully qualified part. i.e. (google.com and google)
[16:49] <pangaea_> and skype
[16:49] <MuffinMedic> ok thanks Pici
[16:50] <MuffinMedic> and /etc/hostname is the FQDN or the alias?
[16:51] <causative> is it a problem that /dev/sdb2 and /path/to/ubuntu.iso have different md5sums?
[16:51] <causative> or is that just expected
[16:51] <holstein> !info empathy
[16:52] <pangaea_> @holstein one more thing the default LMMS that comes with studio is buggy and crashes a lot, is there something wrong?
[16:52] <holstein> pangaea_: i would just try whatever yahoo says they support.. or whatever is stated to have yahoo supprot
[16:52] <holstein> !bug | pangaea_
[16:52] <pangaea_> i'm surfing for it now,
[16:52] <holstein> pangaea_: i dont use lmms.. but, when i have tested, it worked better without jack
[16:52] <causative> or is the problem that I wrote the image to /dev/sdb2 instead of to /dev/sdb?
[16:52] <pangaea_> yeah it keeeps crashing, none of the others do
[16:52] <holstein> causative: i write to the entire disk.. dd copying the image to the location
[16:53] <holstein> causative: if i wanted to try a partition like that, i would try unetbootin
[16:53] <causative> yes but I wanted to preserve some of the USB stick for later use
[16:54] <pangaea_> thanks holstein ....no jack w/lmms....will try, and surfing for answers for yahoo compliant w/studio
[16:55] <pangaea_> oops
[16:56] <holstein> pangaea_: dont
[16:56] <leeyaa> hello
[16:56] <pangaea_> i'm trying to log out
[16:56] <holstein> pangaea_: you dont need "compliant with studio".. ubuntustudio *is* ubuntu.. so, you need compliant with yahoo and ubuntu.. not studio
[16:57] <causative> when using dd to write an ubuntu ISO should I write directly to the device /dev/sdb or should I write to a partition such as /dev/sdb2?
[16:57] <holstein> pangaea_: to search "yahoo with ubuntustudio" is to uncessarily narrow your search
[16:57] <leeyaa> i am trying to create ubuntu server startup disk from another ubuntu box. for some reason make startup disk is grayed out
[16:57] <leeyaa> any idea what could be the reason ?\
[16:57] <leeyaa> im using external usb drive
[16:57] <holstein> causative: thats what im stating i do, and the directions i find state.. i do not try dd copy do a partition, but the image to the entire device
[16:57] <leeyaa> ubuntu 12.04
[16:58] <holstein> leeyaa: you can also dd copy the iso.. or use unetbootin
[16:58] <pangaea_> unity was so much easier
[16:58] <leeyaa> holstein: unetbootin doesnt see my usb drive
[16:58] <holstein> leeyaa: then, i would say, yo uhave a bad stick
[16:59] <pangaea_> ok i'll take advice off search, you got your hands full, peace
[16:59] <guest-dZEyWS> ActionParsnip hi again
[16:59] <holstein> leeyaa: or, no permission..
[16:59] <leeyaa> it isnt a stick holstein it is external drive and it is working fine on other oses. im doing everything as root or sudo
[16:59] <pangaea_> i had to use scandisk for mine
[16:59] <pangaea_> just saying
[16:59] <guest-dZEyWS> mounted it as read write, as did the first time too
[17:00] <LukeS> Stupid Question, Is there a way to install GNOME so that I can select between GNOME and Unity 8 on login?
[17:00] <guest-dZEyWS> but again, after passwd username, it allows me to type the new password, and retype it, yet reports with the same messafe
[17:00] <holstein> leeyaa: could be, as a protection, unet is not allowing you to access the drive.. i remember a checkbox that allows selecting drives there, with a warning.. a valid warning
[17:00] <guest-dZEyWS> ...message
[17:00] <leeyaa> wou;ld something like this work ? sudo dd if=ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso of=/dev/sdb
[17:00] <leeyaa> holstein: what checkbox
[17:01] <guest-dZEyWS> manipulation error of the authentification token
[17:02] <holstein> leeyaa: in unetbootin.. beside where you choose the drive.. a checkbox that states "i want to use the drives, not just usb sticks"
[17:02] <causative> leeyaa, it might work, as it happens I just issued the exact same command
[17:02] <causative> to the letter, except I added bs=1M
[17:02] <causative> oh also it was 14.04
[17:02] <holstein> leeyaa: "show all drives (use with care)"
[17:02] <leeyaa> holstein: i don thve it
[17:02] <leeyaa> hm
[17:03] <holstein> leeyaa: then, get the version that does.. its a safety.. or use a usb stick
[17:03] <causative> alright well thanks holstein I'll see if this works
[17:04] <guest-dZEyWS> holstein on the issue to change the password, the link to psychocats.net
[17:04] <leeyaa> holstein: i downloaded latest version from their website same thing
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> guest-dZEyWS: wassup
[17:04] <guest-dZEyWS> ActionParsnip
[17:05] <guest-dZEyWS> so, remounted it as read-write, again
[17:05] <AaronCampbell> buratino: Thanks for your help...I just opened http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2230136&p=13052177 so if you have any additional info to drop there, it would be appreciated
[17:05] <holstein> leeyaa: then, you see the option to allow you to choose the drives you want to use?
[17:05] <leeyaa> holstein: nope
[17:05] <holstein> leeyaa: you are not intended to be able to break the system by choosing normal drivs
[17:05] <guest-dZEyWS> but again, after passwd username, it allows me to type the new password, and retype it, yet reports with the same message
[17:05] <holstein> drives*
[17:05] <leeyaa> i mena i see usb and hdd drives
[17:06] <leeyaa> but i can choose just hdd /
[17:06] <guest-dZEyWS> ActionParsnip, when i shift and reboot
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> guest-dZEyWS: you could try a chroot from liveCD
[17:06] <holstein> leeyaa: you see http://www.pendrivelinux.com/wp-content/uploads/Using-UNetbootin-Net.png "show all drives"
[17:07] <guest-dZEyWS> it offers me Advanced option for Ubuntu
[17:07] <leeyaa> i dont have it :D
[17:07] <holstein> leeyaa: ok.. dd copy the iso then
[17:07] <leeyaa> is it sudo dd if=ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso of=/dev/sdb1 ? or sdb ?
[17:08] <guest-dZEyWS> and within it: http://oi62.tinypic.com/2d0ma76.jpg
[17:08] <guest-dZEyWS> ...where from i choose the second
[17:08] <holstein> leeyaa: you need to be sure what those are.. and i dont and cant knoe
[17:08] <holstein> know*
[17:08] <leeyaa> well does it have to be a partition (sdb1) or drive (sdb)
[17:08] <guest-dZEyWS> ActionParsnip, should I maybe choose some previous
[17:09] <holstein> leeyaa: look and see.. if i were unsure, i would go buy a usb stick and use unetbootin
[17:10] <pangaea_> holstein this is what i found out
[17:10] <pangaea_> Available versions
[17:10] <pangaea_>     Ubuntu 13.10
[17:10] <pangaea_>     Ubuntu 13.04
[17:10] <pangaea_>     Ubuntu 12.10
[17:10] <pangaea_>     Ubuntu 12.04
[17:10] <unopaste> pangaea_ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[17:10] <holstein> pangaea_: you stated you were using it in main ubuntu 14.04
[17:10] <mitzie> msg NickServ identify virus314
[17:11] <holstein> mitzie: you need to change that password *now*
[17:11] <SchrodingersScat> oh my
[17:11] <pangaea_> yeah no pigin for 14.04 or so it says, i just tried to use it again and it's what yahoo suggested
[17:11] <OerHeks> https://freenode.net/faq.shtml#changepass
[17:11] <holstein> pangaea_: ok.. then, stop trying pidgin, if yahoo doesnt support pidgin in 14.04
[17:12] <holstein> pangaea_: if they do support it then ask them for support. otherwise, i would just keep trying things til something works
[17:12] <genii> !info pidgin
[17:12] <pangaea_> sorry bout the paste thing man, didn't know
[17:12] <simpleuser> My php5-cli crashes on Lubuntu 14.04, but no error in /var/log/apache2/error.log. What can I do? :'(
[17:12] <genii> I suspect a typo. eg: pigin versus pidgin
[17:12] <simpleuser> Segmentation Fault (core dumped)
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> pangaea_: https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090617171643AA8LFyw
[17:13] <holstein> pangaea_: are you able to launch the application? pidgin ?
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> pangaea_: try one of those servers
[17:14] <pangaea_> yeah it launches then says unable to verify
[17:14] <Daniela21>  Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://bitly.com/1lvQiSM
[17:14] <OerHeks> uh oh, Daniela21, wrong channel to spam
[17:14] <pangaea_> why is copy and paste so buggy in studio man...argg
[17:15] <holstein> pangaea_: its not here.. could be you are used to unity and not xfce.. what do i suggest? just use main ubuntu with unity and add whatever audio packages you like to it
[17:16] <pangaea_> tried that, need the low latency kernels
[17:16] <holstein> pangaea_: sure.. add that as well
[17:16] <pangaea_> btw i went to that page and figured out whats wrong, man your good
[17:16] <WilsonMathew> I got this dublicate message: http://codepad.org/Li4i9yCa, when I do "sudo apt-get update", what can I do to solve it?
[17:16] <holstein> pangaea_: its in the main repos, and you can add it to main ubuntu
[17:16] <pangaea_> what low latency???
[17:17] <holstein> pangaea_: ubuntustudio *is* ubuntu.. thus, having access to the same kernel. you add it.. thats what i was referring to above..*whatever* audio packages you want
[17:18] <pangaea_> ok so they are the same just using cross platform with inherent low latency then??
[17:18] <holstein> pangaea_: im not sure what you are asking with the term "cross platform".. ubuntustudio *is* ubuntu.. not a different platform in any way
[17:19] <holstein> pangaea_: if you want main ubuntu with the lowlatency kernel, add it. if you want unity in ubuntustudio, add it..
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> guest-dZEyWS: previous what? that isnt a full sentence.....
[17:19] <simpleuser> No one for my PHP-CLI crash? :'(
[17:19] <OerHeks> if you *really* need lowlatency kernel, i would stick with Xfce Xubuntu desktop on ubuntu-studio
[17:19] <genii> WilsonMathew: Looks like you have two entries with duplicates in the /etc/apt/sources.list file. Probably want to edit it with admin rights and remove the duplicates.
[17:20] <pangaea_> i can do as i wish as long as i stay deb based then
[17:20] <holstein> OerHeks: why? the desktop has *nothing* to do with latency or the kernel..
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> WilsonMathew: what is the output of:  sudo apt-get install pastebinit; clear; grep -v ^$ /etc/apt/sources.list | grep -v ^# | sort | pastebinit
[17:21] <holstein> pangaea_: no.. ubuntustudio *is* ubuntu.. this is not a deb based thing.. they have the same sources, friend.. they are the same.. just different default setups and packages installed
[17:23] <pangaea_> ok i'm clear on that issue, right now i'm on xfce with gnome built in
[17:23] <holstein> pangaea_: not likely
[17:23] <causative> drom
[17:23] <holstein> pangaea_: gnome is not "built in" to xfce
[17:23] <guygr> Hi.  After switching to proprietary nvidia drivers, dbus doesn't work properly.  dbus-daemon is running, but anything that uses it gets "Connection refused".  If I kill it, unset the DBUS_... environment variable and restart it it works again.  I can also switch back to using nouveau and everything's fine again (but without any 3D acceleration, obviously).  Any thoughts?
[17:24] <pangaea_> wow guygr i did the same thing and went back to xorg
[17:24] <holstein> guygr: i would use the open drivers if they are "better" for your needs
[17:25] <pangaea_> the new drivers for my radeon work great guygr
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> guygr: do you intend to run 3D games?
[17:25] <guygr> not really.  I'm developing 3d stuff, and with nouveau I just get a blank screen.  speed's not important, but some 3d is
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> guygr: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[17:26] <pangaea_> i have 3d with xorg on my ati 4670
[17:26] <holstein> guygr: you may not get 3d in linux with that hardware..
[17:26] <WilsonMathew> ActionParsnip, I dont have "pastebinit "installed, but when I did "sudo apt-get install pastebinit", I got: http://codepad.org/TOZavT1z
[17:27] <pangaea_> true i had to buy a pci-e card with 1gb to get it right
[17:27] <guygr> ActionParsnip:  I'm not at that machine at the moment.  This one just says the ubuntu version, which in my case is Xubuntu 14.04 (with i3 WM)
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> WilsonMathew: ok, remove the pipe to pastebinit and make a pastebin of the output manually
[17:28] <jiffe98> so we picked up a couple supermicros which have 10G ethernet ports on them and some that don't, the ones that don't work fine but the ones that do have a problem booting
[17:29] <jiffe98> get a cpu soft lockup
[17:29] <holstein> i might try disabling in the bios..
[17:30] <guygr> holstein: what hardware?  any nvidia card?
[17:31] <holstein> guygr: not "any" card, but they dont promise you linux support, so you may have to make compromises.. if 3d support were missiong critical, i would try and go with something with official linux support
[17:31] <holstein> guygr: you can try the xorg edgers ppa..
[17:32] <ScottyGun> I'm using sirc on 10.04.4 LTS.  Would someone please tell me how to set environment variables like IRCSERVER, IRCNAME, and IRCNICK?
[17:32] <WilsonMathew> ActionParsnip sorry, could you send me the command again, I think I just delete it. I looked it on history but couldn't find it
[17:32] <dmavroid> Hello everyone. I would like to ask you if I can have steam on my ubuntu 14.04! Also do I have to pay in order to install it? thank you
[17:32] <holstein> !10.04
[17:33] <Artemis3> dmavroid, yes; no.
[17:33] <holstein> ScottyGun: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/karmic/man1/sirc.1.html seems to list those
[17:33] <guygr> holstein: the nvidia stuff works nicely until I do a reboot, when it messes up dbus.  My current workaround is to enable the proprietary nvidia when I need it and then go back to nouveau before shutting down
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> WilsonMathew: clear; grep -v ^$ /etc/apt/sources.list | grep -v ^# | sort > ~/parsnipoutput.txt; gedit ~/parsnipoutput.txt
[17:34] <holstein> guygr: sounds like a nice work around.. have you tried the newer packages in the unsupported ppa?
[17:34] <netameta> how can i uninstall something that i used make install to install ?
[17:34] <causative> I have booted to ubuntu on a USB stick so I can investigate problems with my main ubuntu installation, however when I try fsck /dev/sda3 (my main installation's root filesystem, where I've been having problems) it finishes almost instantly and says it's clean, even though it's 150 GB in size
[17:34] <holstein> netameta: the software might have an uninstaller..
[17:34] <holstein> !info checkinstall
[17:34] <causative> so something must be wrong if it's finishing so quickly
[17:34] <dmavroid> Artemis3, where I can find steam then? Cause I am going to software centre and its not there
[17:34] <netameta> how do i check for that holstein
[17:34] <holstein> netameta: for the future, i think checkinstall will help you make that easier
[17:35] <guygr> holstein: no, that's the xorg-edgers one?  can I just install the nouveau drivers, or do I need a full xorg update at the same time?
[17:35] <holstein> netameta: i ask them.. i look at the software and see if an uninstaller is present.. and ask them for one, or look and see what was installed and how
[17:35] <holstein> guygr: you'd add the ppa and all the newer packages in the source would come in..
[17:36] <rotorgeek> Later all
[17:36] <holstein> guygr: you can pin, but i wouldnt.. i would just be familier with ppa-purge and try them, if you think newer packages may address the issues
[17:37] <WilsonMathew> ActionParsnip, output: http://codepad.org/9LHhvO8h
[17:38] <jhpy1024> Hey guys, my launcher has disappeared :/
[17:38] <dmavroid> found it. thanks anyway
[17:38] <jhpy1024> All i see is the desktop icons
[17:38] <jhpy1024> I'm running 14.04 64bit
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> WilsonMathew: run:  sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list    and comment out line 2. It should then be clear
[17:38] <ScottyGun> Can anyone help me set IRC environment variables like IRCSERVER, IRCNAME, and IRCNICK?
[17:39] <holstein> jhpy1024: you are running unity? you can try http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[17:39] <holstein> ScottyGun: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/karmic/man1/sirc.1.html addresses those specifically
[17:40] <guygr> holstein: thanks, I'll give that a shot.  The proprietary nvidia drivers mess up a whole load of other stuff too (DPI, display output names) so I'd rather avoid them if I can get something 3d working without them
[17:40] <jhpy1024> holstein: I can't open a terminal though. I've tried CTRL+ALT+T and CTRL+ALT+1
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> ScottyGun: export IRCSERVER=address
[17:40] <pangaea_> ok got it thanks holstein i had to set my ip address thanks for the link
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> WilsonMathew: if you look at the lines, you already have restricted set on line 3, so line 2 is a duplicate
[17:41] <pangaea_> ang guy i would stick with xorg
[17:41] <pangaea_> and*
[17:41] <holstein> pangaea_: you mean, "stick with xorg", stick with the open driver?
[17:41] <pangaea_> yup
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> pangaea_: xorg is not the open driver...xorg is xorg, the open driver is the open driver
[17:42] <holstein> pangaea_: nouveau the open driver in this scenario..
[17:42] <pangaea_> the new drivers are great, checked my card in terminal everything is working full 1gb mem and all
[17:42] <ScottyGun> Okay, I used export IRCSERVER=...will those settings stick through a restart?
[17:42] <holstein> ScottyGun: try it and see.. if not, you can edit a config
[17:42] <WilsonMathew> ActionParsnip, Thanks you very much. It worked.
[17:43]  * ScottyGun logging off for reboot...
[17:44] <jhpy1024> unity seems to have disappeared. I've got unity-reset installed but cant run it because I can't open a terminal
[17:44] <jiffe98> anyone running Intel X540 Dual Port 10GBase-T NICs on ubuntu?
[17:44] <jhpy1024> any help?
[17:45] <pangaea_> jhpy1024 did you install something new, like a desktop tweaker
[17:46] <jhpy1024> eugh, unity-reset fails
[17:47] <pangaea_> i reset my unity with synaptics
[17:48] <pangaea_> after boot repair
[17:49] <jhpy1024> this is why i hate linux somtimes -_-
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> WilsonMathew: simple logic dude
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> jhpy1024: why, because one (optional) part of it isnt fantastic.....
[17:51] <jhpy1024> ActionParsnip: I don't really mean it, I'm just pissed. I installed this last night and BAM, unity breaks
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> jhpy1024: you dont have to use Unity
[17:52] <jhpy1024> ActionParsnip: of course
[17:52] <jhpy1024> but that doesn't mean it should just break
[17:53] <WilsonMathew> ActionParsnip, well I am a newbie so I was kind of lost.. but I am trying to figure out your first command now. anyways thanks.
[17:54] <jhpy1024> fuck me, i'll just go and reinstall
[17:54] <holstein> jmad980: the problem is, its not broken here
[17:54] <Guest63316>  I was thinking about switching over from a desktop environment to just console mode. I know my way around the console fairly well and have developed a liking for the simplicity of console mode and how many less distractions there are when using it compared to a desktop environment. I had a few questions that I have already turned to Google for and didn't get really any helpful answers. I am using Kali-linux so there is a bunch of tools
[17:54] <Guest63316>  installed on it the questions I am hoping to find the answers to are the following:
[17:54] <Guest63316> 1.) How light weight is console mode, compared to a desktop environment?
[17:54] <Guest63316> 2.) How would I list all the tools that I currently have installed or that come on Kali I have already done the apt-cache search + the meta-packages names to read their contents but I know there has to be an easier way then doing this.
[17:55] <Guest63316> 3.) What benefits come with using console mode? Why would it be better to use than a desktop environment? besides learning how to operate a computer with commands instead of just point and click.
[17:55] <holstein> !language | jmad980
[17:55] <holstein> jmad980: you just need to elaborate to help a volunteer assist you
[17:55] <holstein> !kali | Guest63316
[17:55] <jhpy1024> so the whole unity launcher has disappeared. rebooting does nothing. unity-reset does nothing. manual reset with dconf does nothing
[17:55] <holstein> Guest63316: you would ask kali about what apps come with it.. but, you can use tty right now, or from a live CD, to see about command line mode
[17:56] <holstein> !tty | Guest63316
[17:56] <jhpy1024> sorry about the swearing btw :X
[17:56] <holstein> jmad980: sorry..
[17:56] <holstein> jhpy1024: ^^
[17:56] <holstein> jhpy1024: what are the errors with trying to reset unity?
[17:57] <Guest63316> Thank you holstein! And console mode would be another channel to?
[17:58] <jhpy1024> holstein: unity-reset says "OSError no such file or directory"
[17:58] <holstein> Guest63316: no.. console mode is just that.. just a console
[17:58] <jhpy1024> manually with dconf says nothing but doesn't work
[17:59] <Guest63316> okay thank you! sorry I am still figuring out linux some appreciate your help! *Gives a virtual high five*
[18:00] <jeroen___> Hello im back
[18:00] <jhpy1024> wtf, unity uninstalled :/
[18:00] <jhpy1024> got it working now
[18:01] <jhpy1024> thanks for putting up with my rage holstein :P
[18:01] <Jeroen_Mathon> Wait you uninstalled Unity?
[18:01] <jhpy1024> i didn't, it just uninstalled somehow
[18:01] <holstein> jhpy1024: i suggest, if you want to really mess around with the config, use a live CD.. you can do so without breaking the installed system
[18:01] <Guest63316> Live CD's are great!
[18:01] <Jeroen_Mathon> jhpy1024:Or use backintime to backup your hard drive
[18:02] <jhpy1024> holstein: the weird thing is i wasnt doing anything with the config or whatever, my pc just froze and then unity uninstalled :/
[18:02] <Jeroen_Mathon> jhpy1024: Impossible
[18:02] <holstein> jhpy1024: not likely.. but, if you are back to normal, enjoy
[18:02] <Jeroen_Mathon> Youl need Superuser access to do that
[18:02] <Jeroen_Mathon> Unless you run Xorg as Superuser
[18:03] <jhpy1024> well i wasn't in the software center and I wasn't doing anything with apt-get so if it was somehow me, i have no idea how i did it
[18:03] <Jeroen_Mathon> Lemme think
[18:03] <Guest63316> Would running just console mode be more light weight? I know linux is already light but I want to see how light weight I can get before having issues haha
[18:04] <dw1> yes
[18:04] <daviator> hey guys :)
[18:04] <holstein> Guest63316: running any software will not make the hardware any "better" or "faster".. its just doing what it does.. if you want command line, use it.. it will be using less resources if you dont need a GUI.. if you need/want a GUI, you'll have to use those resources running one
[18:05] <holstein> Guest63316: the only issues you would have would be, needing more or different software or services running
[18:05] <Jeroen_Mathon> Hello daviator
[18:05] <daviator> i have some questions
[18:05] <dw1> Guest63316: you can also use lighter weight desktops. i use "gnome-session-flashback".  install the package and choose it at login screen
[18:05] <ScottyGun> holstein, I wrote those export commands into .bashrc.  Variables are retained after reboot.  Thanks!
[18:05] <Jeroen_Mathon> Sure as kaway daviator
[18:05] <Jeroen_Mathon> ask away*
[18:05] <dw1> Guest63316: list of desktops at http://tinyurl.com/ubdesk
[18:06] <dw1> whats the proper way to specify the screen session with -X?  screen -dmS test; screen -X "echo test" test; doesnt seem to work
[18:06] <Guest63316> Okay I understand thank you again holestein! and yea I have started to realize the amount of extra stuff needed to get all I want in console mode is a pain! and dw1 what is flashback? I thnk I kinda understand from the name of it but could use some clarification
[18:07] <daviator> some where i rad that upgrading linux through update manager is not a good choice
[18:07] <daviator> right?
[18:07] <holstein> Guest63316: lxde is a nice simple light desktop in the repos
[18:07] <dw1> Guest63316: its gnome classic.  gnome 3 disguised as gnome 2, with low to no effects
[18:07] <Jeroen_Mathon> daviator: use apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade
[18:08] <Guest63316> I like LXDE its got a nice does of KDE to it and dw1 worth a shot I'll try it out and tell you what I think thanks again guys you have both been huge helps in my linux journey!
[18:08] <daviator> what the difference between upgrading through upgmng and command line?
[18:08] <Jeroen_Mathon> Command line uses aptitude
[18:08] <Jeroen_Mathon> Its safer then a gui fornt end
[18:08] <Jeroen_Mathon> And more reliable
[18:10] <Guest63316> Okay so I have read many rants about apt VS aptitude and why one is better than the other is one really better than the other to use? Like Jeroen_Mathon makes a good point security is crucial!
[18:10] <daviator> what about packages?
[18:10] <Jonyijoe> Anyone have experience controlling CPU fan speed?
[18:10] <daviator> is there any dofference?
[18:10] <Jeroen_Mathon> Guest63316 apt uses aptitude
[18:10] <Jeroen_Mathon> daviator updatemgr uses aptitude
[18:10] <Jeroen_Mathon> apt-get > aptitude < updatemgr
[18:11] <Jeroen_Mathon> They both are based of debians package manager
[18:11] <Pici> Jeroen_Mathon: apt does not use aptitude.
[18:11] <Jonyijoe> Anyone have experience controlling CPU fan speed? I need to turn mine down as its far too loud
[18:11] <Jonyijoe> driving me nuts haha
[18:11] <Pici> apt-get and aptitude are two different front ends for the apt system.
[18:11] <Jeroen_Mathon> Thanks Pici your right and Johnyijoe
[18:11] <Jeroen_Mathon> You don't want to slow it down
[18:11] <Pewdiepie> Hello bros
[18:11] <Jeroen_Mathon> If its spinning that hard
[18:11] <Jeroen_Mathon> It got a reason for spinning so hard.
[18:12] <Pici> daviator: There really is no difference between what the command line utilities and the update-manager does.  They access the same packages, just with different client-facing interfaces.
[18:12] <Pewdiepie> oooo
[18:12] <daviator> thanks
[18:12] <daviator> :)
[18:12] <Pewdiepie> nothing
[18:12] <Guest63316> You guys are awesome! thanks so much everyone is there a way to like donate to you guys for your help and stuff?
[18:13] <Jeroen_Mathon> Pewdiepie is not from grace
[18:13] <Jeroen_Mathon> I tracked your ip back to greece
[18:13] <Jeroen_Mathon> Stop trolling mate this channel is for support
[18:13] <Jonyijoe> Jeoren I have theromal outputs its at 25deg it can operate up to 100deg I just need to turn it down by about 20% till i get a new cpu fan. one of the fins broke off so its loud as hell
[18:13] <Pewdiepie> e?
[18:13] <Jonyijoe> Please help im going insane haha
[18:13] <Jeroen_Mathon> Johnyijoe the more reason ofr it to spin faster
[18:14] <Jeroen_Mathon> Your cpu isnt the only thing being cooled
[18:14] <Guest63316> Jeroen how did you do that? Netstat or is it because of your rank in this irc?
[18:14] <Jeroen_Mathon> I used a website
[18:14] <Jeroen_Mathon> and the whois command on linux
[18:14] <Pewdiepie> i'm just a fun
[18:14] <Pewdiepie> fan*
[18:14] <Jeroen_Mathon> Still this channel is for support
[18:15] <Jonyijoe> I have 5 other fans Jeroen poviding solid airflow. Im not a n00b at this I know my system well. What I dont know is how to controll cpu fan speed in ubuntu
[18:15] <Guest63316> whois is awesome! and you're right I should go if I am done with needing support thanks again you guys!
[18:15] <Jeroen_Mathon> Jonyijoe Lemme take a look at the interwebs
[18:15] <Jeroen_Mathon> Jonyijoe here https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fan_Speed_Control
[18:16] <Jonyijoe> Ive been looking for ages, Cant find anything at all accept ways to monitor temps etc
[18:16] <Jonyijoe> ok thanks hold on
[18:29] <luckyboy> en?
[18:29] <Jeroen_Mathon> Hello
[18:30] <luckyboy> hello
[18:30] <Jeroen_Mathon> Something i can help you with?
[18:30] <Guest37130> i am trying to set up a pptp vpn connection and for some reason it will not let me connect to any of the ones that i have tried so far...
[18:30] <asturel> is it a common issue that after a month uptime xorg becomes laggy?
[18:30] <asturel> i mean switching between desktops tooks seconds
[18:31] <Jeroen_Mathon> asturel what desktop enviroment are you currently using?
[18:31] <asturel> the default
[18:31] <asturel> ldm or something like that..
[18:31] <Jeroen_Mathon> Unity?
[18:31] <asturel> yeah
[18:31] <asturel> what comes with default install
[18:31] <Jeroen_Mathon> What is the output of the command df -h
[18:31] <asturel> i have enought space
[18:31] <asturel> maybe the nvidia binary driver is buggy?
[18:31] <Jeroen_Mathon> asturel try the default driver
[18:32] <asturel> but thats slow
[18:32] <Jeroen_Mathon> Or use an source based one those can be tweaked
[18:32] <Jeroen_Mathon> I also use the default one
[18:32] <Jeroen_Mathon> It's reccomended right?
[18:32] <asturel> also the applicaations becomes 'invisible' when i switch to 'grind view' or whatever that
[18:33] <asturel> when i hover it selects the borders but still invisible
[18:33] <Jeroen_Mathon> Did you try reinstalling unity?
[18:33] <Jeroen_Mathon> Or tried using the guest session
[18:33] <asturel> it happens on an another pc too
[18:33] <Jeroen_Mathon> To see if the issues also there.
[18:33] <asturel> to be exact on 3
[18:33] <asturel> all of them installed the same ubuntu
[18:34] <asturel> in 12.x it wasnt like that, but in 13.x
[18:34] <Guest37130> i have tried connection too 5 different pptp vpns and for some reason it will not let me connect to any of them ?
[18:35] <Jeroen_Mathon> What VPN software are you using?
[18:35] <Guest37130> jeroen none
[18:36] <Jeroen_Mathon> Thats the problem
[18:36] <Jeroen_Mathon> Try openvpn
[18:36] <Guest37130> openvpn is a vpn client
[18:36] <Guest37130> i am connecting directly to a server
[18:36] <Guest37130> http://vpnonline.org/
[18:36] <Jeroen_Mathon> Yeah youl need a client ofr that
[18:36] <Jeroen_Mathon> Client <[18:37] <asturel> Jeroen_Mathon which nvidia driver do u use?
[18:37] <Jeroen_Mathon> I have Intel
[18:37] <Guest37130> damm that shit worked in windows...
[18:37] <asturel> because i saw like 5 from binary drivers
[18:37] <asturel> ah :D
[18:37] <asturel> i have dvga so i would prefer that rather than hd400
[18:37] <asturel> 0
[18:37] <Guest37130> can i connect to a vpn with open vpn with out having my own server?
[18:39] <WilsonMathew> I am trying to install awesomewm but the I got a problem with apt-get that it just shows me an error: http://codepad.org/0LdOguL5
[18:39] <asturel> so it must be the nvidia driver?
[18:39] <Jeroen_Mathon> Closed source drivers aren't being supported by ubuntu
[18:40] <Jeroen_Mathon> They are supported by their vendors
[18:40] <asturel> well i installed from additional drivers or whatever :D
[18:40] <asturel> i guess its the vendor drivers
[18:40] <Guest37130> ubuntu 12.04 is ubuntu 14 right?
[18:40] <Jeroen_Mathon> No
[18:40] <Jeroen_Mathon> 14.1
[18:41] <Guest37130> openvpn only goes in whole numbers
[18:41] <mxvxrts> Guest37130, Both are long term 5 years support
[18:41] <Guest37130> http://openvpn.net/index.php/access-server/download-openvpn-as-sw/113.html?osfamily=Ubuntu
[18:41] <asturel> whats the chance that dist upgrade go wrong?
[18:42] <OerHeks> Guest37130, as of 10.04 you can config your VPN in networkmanager
[18:42] <asturel> last time when i tried i ended without xorg and many packages 'corrupted' (they didnt recognized as installed but they were on the system)
[18:43] <Pici> asturel: Are you asking about an apt-get dist-upgrade or a release upgrade?
[18:43] <asturel> release upgrade
[18:43] <asturel> i think
[18:44] <Pici> asturel: Are you asking about upgrading to a new release of Ubuntu?
[18:44] <asturel> yeah.
[18:45] <asturel> i have currently 13.(10?) i want to upgrade to 14
[18:45] <Pici> asturel: There is a chance of failure, which is why we always suggest that you have a backup, or at least a way to recover your needed items if there is indeed a problem.
[18:45] <asturel> u mean backup by cp ?:D
[18:46] <asturel> im rly not into ubuntu
[18:46] <Pici> asturel: backup by whatever means you want.
[18:46] <asturel> ah, i thought there's something like ubuntu backup :D
[18:47] <jcalve34> what is a good replacement for rhythmbox?
[18:47] <Jeroen_Mathon> vlc
[18:47] <jcalve34> and if I want to listen to music instead of watch a movie?
[18:48] <Jeroen_Mathon> vlc is for music and video
[18:48] <Jeroen_Mathon> Tnat or xmms
[18:48] <Guest37130> jeroen do i have to run a vpn client on a different computer from the one that i want to connect to the vpn with ?
[18:49] <Jeroen_Mathon> Yeah
[18:49] <Jeroen_Mathon> Again Client > Connection > Server
[18:50] <Jeroen_Mathon> All Servers must have a client
[18:50] <Jeroen_Mathon> Thats how their programmed
[18:50] <Guest37130> that's the problem i want a vpn that i don't have to have the client on a computer
[18:50] <Jeroen_Mathon> No client no VPN
[18:50] <Jeroen_Mathon> Some distros have clients buildin
[18:52] <Guest37130> so basically i have to create a server with something like hamachi put the client on the server then run the vpn.
[18:52] <Jeroen_Mathon> No hamachi
[18:52] <Jeroen_Mathon> Whats your plan
[18:53] <Guest37130> basically to have create a vpn so that i can rotate my ip adress
[18:53] <Guest37130> or switch between different vpns
[18:54] <Jeroen_Mathon> Why not use a SSh tunnel.
[18:54] <Pici> Guest37130: What is the problem that you are having exactly?
[18:54] <Guest37130> don't i have to have another computer for that as well ?
[18:55] <Jeroen_Mathon> You ssh into the other pc and use that to rotate your ip
[18:55] <Jeroen_Mathon> Youl route your network trough that computer
[18:55] <Guest37130> that's the problem i don't have another computer
[18:56] <PierrePaul> hi everyone, Im trying to make an upstart daemon that's using environment vars specified in /etc/environment
[18:56] <megazorg123> Hi
[18:56] <PierrePaul> I know that in my upstart script, I can do env supervar='supervalue'
[18:56] <PierrePaul> supervar=$SUPERVAR, right ?
[18:57] <Guest37130> basically i need a way to change my ip address as i wish only using one computer
[18:57] <PierrePaul> so I tried exec SUPERVAR='supervalue' /usr/sbin/php5-fpm blabla bla
[18:57] <PierrePaul> but exec() doesnt like this at all
[18:57] <PierrePaul> and I really dont want to wrap it in sudo
[18:57] <Jeroen_Mathon> Why do you want to change your ip
[18:57] <murlidhar> does anyone know if there is any native linux client for tunein radio
[18:57] <Jeroen_Mathon> Not doing anything iligal right? XD ;)
[18:58] <Guest37130> just to bypass bans :P
[18:58] <Pici> Guest37130: We cannot provide support for that here.
[18:58] <Jeroen_Mathon> Indeed
[18:58] <Jeroen_Mathon> Sorry i can't help you on that one
[18:58] <Jeroen_Mathon> people are banned for a reason
[18:59] <Guest37130> for expressing my right of freedom of speech
[18:59] <Jeroen_Mathon> Thats their problem their rules
[18:59] <Jeroen_Mathon> Not ours we can not help you with that
[19:00] <Anarhist> somebody please help. today my mouse has reversed X and Y (when i move up and down the cursor goes left and right, and the other way around), the touch pad still works correctly. i have tried unplugging and pluggin back it and rebooting nothing has helped
[19:01] <Jeroen_Mathon> Are you holding your mouse the right way? is it upside down.
[19:01] <Anarhist> Jeroen_Mathon, yes and no
[19:01] <Jeroen_Mathon> Anarhist did you try a different mouse?
[19:02] <Anarhist> Jeroen_Mathon, i don't have another one, so no i didn't
[19:02] <Jeroen_Mathon> Do you have another pc to try that mouse on?
[19:03] <trism> PierrePaul: if you are defining the var in the job you can use the env stanza: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#environment-variables
[19:03] <PierrePaul> trism: yeah that's what I'd like to use
[19:03] <jjavaholic> !deja-dup-monitor
[19:04] <PierrePaul> but the value that I need to set comes from /etc/environment
[19:04] <PierrePaul> and I cant seem to do env myvar=$VAR
[19:04] <Anarhist> bummer, that must be it, the mouse is busted
[19:04] <jjavaholic> !udisksd
[19:04] <Jeroen_Mathon> Good trouble shooting prevents you from busting your system for something that is ahrdware related :)
[19:04] <trism> PierrePaul: I found this http://serverfault.com/questions/128605/have-upstart-read-environment-from-etc-environment-for-a-service kind of old, don't know if things have changed
[19:05] <Jeroen_Mathon> PLeasure to have helped you ^^
[19:05] <Pici> !msgthebot | jjavaholic
[19:05] <PierrePaul> trism: I will try it, I know it works by wrapping it in sudo, but didnt try su
[19:06] <PierrePaul> thanks!
[19:06] <Jeroen_Mathon> Brb
[19:08] <PierrePaul> trism: you're awesome, it works
[19:08] <PierrePaul> thanks again
[19:08] <trism> PierrePaul: excellent
[19:11] <jjavaholic> what does hud-service do?
[19:12] <trism> jjavaholic: tap the alt key
[19:13] <jjavaholic> so without it you don't get the hud overlay?
[19:13] <jjavaholic> any of it?
[19:13] <trism> jjavaholic: you might get the overlay but it queries the hud-service for the information, so it wouldn't be useful
[19:14] <jjavaholic> no app search?
[19:15] <holstein> there are many ways to search apps..
[19:17] <jjavaholic> what does the accounts-daemon do?
[19:18] <seldie> .anonnet.org
[19:18] <trism> jjavaholic: install d-feet and you can explore all those services as much as you want
[19:18] <Pici> jjavaholic: Based on the package it is from, I'd guess provides a set of dbus interfaces for querying and manipulating user account information.
[19:19] <jjavaholic> so it is kinda like the gnome-keyring-daemon?
[19:20] <holstein> jjavaholic: check it out, and see.. they are different..
[19:20] <Pici> jjavaholic: I don't know. I'm just reading the package description for accountsservice, which that binary is in.
[19:20] <holstein> jjavaholic: you can always use a live CD to experiement and poke around a bit more, so you dont break your installed system.. or, just run a full install in virtualbox or virtualization
[19:21] <Carlinhos> i'm having xorg crashes whenever i start a game using the radeon card on a px system; here is my xorg conf: http://pastie.org/9300015 this only happens when using drivers from the oibaf ppa, it works if i revert to ubuntu's repo.
[19:21] <tango__> Hello could anyone help me out with installing drupal7 on an ubuntu server
[19:21] <Kamp> if live cd used, can I repair ubuntu and reset my user password upon boot for sure?
[19:21] <holstein> Carlinhos: the repoones may be the one s you want to use, then.. the ppa is not officially supported
[19:22] <holstein> Kamp: you can reset a password from the recovery console.. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[19:22] <holstein> Carlinhos: the repo one*
[19:23] <Carlinhos> holstein, i would like to figure this one though as the oibaf one gives me better performance. i only have issues after recent updates.
[19:23] <Kamp> holstein, i was under user guest, and you already sent this link, and managed to change it, yet, upon the restart, didn't accept it, and now i cannot even login as guest!
[19:23] <holstein> Carlinhos: sure. but its not officially suppport.. and id say its not "better" if its not running the game you want to use
[19:24] <holstein> Kamp: not likely, friend.. though, you could have any number of larger system issues.. bad/failing hard drive for example
[19:25] <Kamp> holstein will i be able to repair ubuntu with live cd, and reset password ?
[19:26] <holstein> Kamp: i have no idea, friend.. it depends on what is broken and how.. and how bad.
[19:26] <holstein> Kamp: i can reset passwords with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Drupal
[19:26] <holstein> Kamp: sorry.. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[19:26] <OerHeks> Kamp, you need to boot in recovery mode, not guest account, to change password
[19:26] <holstein> Kamp: how did that fail for you specifically?
[19:27] <PierrePaul> trism: so I got it wrong :(
[19:27] <marlinc> For some reason http://localhost/phpmyadmin isn't working when installing phpMyAdmin using the phpmyadmin package
[19:27] <PierrePaul> it's not loading the /etc/environment
[19:27] <Aaraigathor> Anyone know how I can get java to work with the latest Google Chrome on Ubuntu 14.04 ?
[19:28] <holstein> !java
[19:28] <Kamp> holstein so holstein, already did all that, and managed to reset it (although after chmod 640 /etc/shadow), yet after "password successfully changed", wasn't able to login. now not even as a guest
[19:28] <Aaraigathor> Thanks! Will try and report back
[19:29] <holstein> Kamp: login how.. in tty? whats happening? where? and how?
[19:29] <trism> PierrePaul: really? it worked for my test script
[19:29] <holstein> Kamp: i gave no chmoed 640 to /etc/shadow command or suggestion
[19:29] <holstein> chmod*
[19:29] <Kamp> holstein i browsed it
[19:30] <holstein> Kamp: you should have been able to use the link i gave.. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword what happens when you do *only* that?
[19:30] <holstein> Kamp: are you able to login in tty? or no?
[19:30] <Kamp> holstein i am at the standard ubuntu login window (i reset the password via boot/recovery mode) where i can choose between the users
[19:31] <Kamp> and cannot even login as guest
[19:31] <Kamp> holstein i followed that link
[19:31] <holstein> Kamp: can you login in tty? i think you could be experiencing a UI crash and assuming a credential error.. will you please try logging in in tty?
[19:31] <holstein> !tty
[19:32] <gru_> iwhy is it that I can view my home website from another location but can not ping it OR ssh into it?
[19:32] <holstein> Kamp: if you ran "chmod 640 /etc/shadow".. thats not from the link i gave..
[19:32] <gru_> I am trying to do this from my laptop so it is a Known host
[19:32] <holstein> gru_: your router can block all of that. your isp can as well..
[19:33] <Kamp> holstein as i said i browsed it
[19:33] <holstein> gru_: setting up a webserver doesnt mean you have ssh.. you'd have to set up ssh server and open a port.. forward a port
[19:33] <Kamp> holstein is tty terminal?
[19:33] <holstein> Kamp: its not in the directions, is all.. friend. so you did  *not* follow the link i gave
[19:34] <PierrePaul> trism: will try again with a brand new lxc container
[19:34] <gru_> but im NOT at home... im at another loction all together.. i know that I cant view from the public ip from behind the NAT at home... but im not at home
[19:34] <holstein> Kamp: im just clarifying, if you have issues, and its due to a command i didnt suggest you run
[19:34] <holstein> Kamp: please access a tty terminal and try and login using your user and password
[19:34] <gru_> i have configed ssh
[19:34] <Kamp> holstholstein I canot even access to the ubuntu ui, neither as a guest!
[19:34] <holstein> gru_: you'l have to do that at home.. forward the port
[19:35] <Stevie24> Hello. I'm trying to extract the columns no 2 & 3 (Area Code & prefix) from http://www.area-codes.com/ . If I choose state CA, provider verizon, I get for example about 58 pages ( http://www.area-codes.com/search.asp?SN=acNPA&SO=ASC&pg=1&frmNPA=&frmNXX=&frmCity=&frmState=CA&frmZip=&frmCounty=&frmCompany=cellco&frmLATA=&frmRateCenter=&frmCLLI=&frmNXXUseType=W )
[19:35] <Stevie24>  Is there any way I can extract them or I have to manually copy/paste each of the 58 pages, and then use awk print $2, $3? Thanks in advance.
[19:35] <holstein> Kamp: can you login in tty?
[19:35] <Kamp> wherefrom i would be able to start the terminal.
[19:35] <holstein> !tty | Kamp
[19:35] <holstein> ^ thats where im suggesting you access a terminal, friend
[19:35] <Kamp> tty=terminal?
[19:35] <holstein> Kamp: try logining from tty
[19:35] <gru_> have setup portforward and all that.... i was able to do this yesterday, with the diff being that I was on an ATT network, but now on an comfast 2 miles away
[19:36] <holstein> gru_: if you have a server running, and the port forwarded correctly, and the isp doesnt block it at either location, you'll be able to connect
[19:36] <Kamp> holstein, for the third time, i cannot even access the ubuntu interface
[19:37] <gru_> holstein: i set all of this up from home so i could work on it remotley, im a little rusty but a complete n00b
[19:37] <eightyeight> i need some help building a .deb. i'm using 'python-stdeb' to help me. the output of the script is here: http://ae7.st/p/9an
[19:37] <holstein> Kamp: ok.. you dont need the ubuntu interface to try logging in from tty, friend
[19:37] <Kamp> i am at the login, and cannot even access as a guest!
[19:37] <eightyeight> line 240 shows "dpkg-buildpackage: error: dpkg-source -b xm-cookie-1.31 gave error exit status 1". curious why.
[19:37] <Kamp> tell me the keyboard shortcut than
[19:37] <holstein> Kamp: i understand.. and, from the login screen, please access a tty screen and try and login
[19:37] <holstein> !tty | Kamp
[19:38] <holstein> Kamp: those above *are* the keys
[19:38] <holstein> Kamp: To get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back
[19:39] <Kamp> holstein did
[19:39] <Aaraigathor> Need help getting Java to work with Google Chrome. Apparently Icedtea doesn't work?
[19:39] <holstein> Kamp: ok.. can you login in tty?
[19:40] <Kamp> holstein, should in tty just try to type the password?
[19:40] <gru_> let me change the firewall settings here.... andsee if that does it
[19:40] <holstein> Kamp: you should tell me if you can login in tty or not
[19:40] <eightyeight> my 'debian/rules' file looks like this: http://ae7.st/p/38u
[19:41] <holstein> Kamp: if you can, then, there is nothing wrong with your credentials.. you are having issues where the UI is crashing, and sending you back to the login screen.. making it seem as though your password is not working.. but, that is not the issue
[19:41] <holstein> Kamp: can you convey the information to me? are you able to login in tty? with your username and password? this will help me determine more about your situation..
[19:41] <Kamp> holstein i was able to login in tty with a password i set following the link you gave me
[19:42] <holstein> Kamp: so, as stated above, the password is *not* the issue
[19:42] <Kamp> holstein guess so
[19:42] <holstein> Kamp: no,. that *is* true.. you *are* logging in
[19:43] <holstein> Kamp: so, you likely had a simple session error.. but, im not sure what all you have done, since now the guest sesssion is failing to load for you..
[19:43] <Kamp> holstein after the password input, the next line is (myusername)@(computername), so that means i am logged in
[19:43] <Kamp> holstein what should i do next
[19:43] <Kamp> ?
[19:44] <holstein> Kamp: correct.. your are in.. your password works.. you are *not* having a problem with the password.. so first thing is *stop* trying to address a password issue
[19:44] <Kamp> holstein so is it the hardware issue?
[19:44] <holstein> Kamp: i didnt say that..
[19:45] <holstein> Kamp: let me say what i said earlier again..
[19:45] <gru_> ok, changed the firewall rules locally and can now get in
[19:45] <holstein> Kamp: so, you likely had a simple session error.. but, im not sure what all you have done, since now the guest sesssion is failing to load for you..
[19:45] <OerHeks> Aaraigathor, Java (IcedTea) doesn't have a PPAPI plugin available, and so it's not usable in Chrome, since it has switched to the Aura rendering framework and no longer allows NPAPI plugins.
[19:46] <Aaraigathor> Anyone know how to get java to work with chrome?
[19:46] <holstein> Kamp: im not sure what all you have broken trying to fix an issue that was not the problem
[19:46] <Kamp> holstein thanks for diagnostics.
[19:46] <holstein> Aaraigathor: i literally go in and enable it, on a case by case basis, since java in the browser *is* a security risk
[19:46] <Kamp> holstein what should i do next?
[19:46] <Aaraigathor> Oh okay, so are there any options for someone wanting to run java in Chrome or are we SoL?
[19:46] <BaconHiddles> ._. Hi
[19:47] <holstein> Aaraigathor: http://www.java.com/en/download/help/enable_browser_ubuntu.xml
[19:47] <holstein> Aaraigathor: i run it, friend.. when i need.. i turn it on, and run it..
[19:47] <Aaraigathor> holstein: That doesn't work anymore, tried
[19:48] <Kamp> holstein should i somehow try to repair it via live cd?
[19:49] <Aaraigathor> holstein : Can't even get icedtea to load in Chrome
[19:49] <holstein> Kamp: i wouldnt think so.. i would try and determine what is broken..
[19:49] <holstein> Aaraigathor: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1308783
[19:50] <holstein> Kamp: i would test after removing any session files and any desktop ui related config files from my home.. but, i dont know what you have done to break the guest account.. you could have broken the system in a larger way
[19:51] <holstein> Aaraigathor: i would follow whatever versioning is listed at that bug.. this could be broken and i wouldnt personally know.. i use it very seldom
[19:52] <Kamp> holstein so there is no way to somehow repair it the "easy" way, like from cd/usb?
[19:55] <Kamp> ...
[19:55] <histo> Kamp: What is the issue?
[19:56] <Kamp> histo  i had a simple session error.. but not sure what  have i  done, since now the guest sesssion is failing to load for me.
[19:57] <Kamp> histo " i would test after removing any session files and any desktop ui related config files from my home.. but, i dont know what you have done to break the guest account.. you could have broken the system in a larger way"
[19:57] <holstein> Kamp: "easy" will be a matter of opinion, and what you have broken
[19:57] <histo> Kamp: why are you using the guest session?
[19:58] <holstein> Kamp: just try removing the .hidden config files for your desktop session and see if you can login
[19:58] <holstein> Kamp: are you using unity? or xfce?
[19:58] <Aaraigathor> holstein : This link cannot be used because its target “/usr/local/java/jre1.7.0_55/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so” doesn't exist.
[19:59] <Kamp> histo as i am unable to login to my user account (with the password I managed to change from within boot/recovery mode, according to tty)
[19:59] <holstein> Aaraigathor: i would follow whatever is in that link.. that bug report.. seems quite up to date, and refers to specific versions of chrome you can step back to
[19:59] <Kamp> holstein removing the .hidden config files from within the tty?
[19:59] <holstein> Kamp: no. you *are* and *were* able to login..
[20:00] <holstein> Kamp: you can use a tty, or a live CD.. make another user... whatevrer you find easiest
[20:00] <histo> Kamp: What happens when you try and login to your user account?
[20:00] <PierrePaul> trism: you're on ubuntu 14.04 right?
[20:00] <holstein> crash back to login screen..
[20:01] <Aaraigathor> holstein : looks like the only way is to go back to old versions of chrome, what a shame
[20:01] <Kamp> black screen for a second with something written and drops me back to the login
[20:01] <holstein> Aaraigathor: let the creators of chrome and java know you think its a shame..
[20:01] <Aaraigathor> how do I delete a folder in terminal? trying rm but keeps telling me that it's a directory?
[20:01] <Kamp> was able to read it when i was able to go to guest account and tried to switch the user
[20:02] <holstein> Aaraigathor: its pretty common to need to follow requirements
[20:02] <histo> Aaraigathor: rm -rf directoryname
[20:02] <Aaraigathor> Thanks everyone
[20:02] <histo> Kamp: So no login to X works?
[20:03] <Kamp> than after typing the password, there was the errorah00558: apache2: could not reliably determine the servers fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1
[20:04] <Kamp> set the sertvername directive globally to surpass this message. starting adaptive redhead demon preload
[20:04] <trism> PierrePaul: I am
[20:04] <Aaraigathor> Looks like I need to find which version of chrome was the latest to support java then install it
[20:05] <Kamp> histo from tty when prompted username and password, the next line says(myusername)@(computername)
[20:05] <Kamp> ...with the password i set from whithin boot/recovery mode
[20:05] <PierrePaul> trism: can you paste me your upstart test conf ? :)
[20:06] <Symphonym> PlayOnLinux doesn't show a "System" wine version in 64bit virtual drives. If I install a 64bit Wine version using POL then only that version will be selected for all 64bit drives (if no other 64bit POL wine versions are installed). 32bit virtual drives shows the "System" wine version. The issue occurred after some experimenting and back and forth testing between wine 1.6 and 1.7 (repeatedly in/uninstalling wine packages). 64bi
[20:06] <Symphonym> t virtual drives will however use the "System" wine version if no other version is installed, any ideas what might be the problem?
[20:08] <PierrePaul> trism: I think I got it, I was trying to do : su root -c SUPERVAR=$FROMETCENVIRONMENT /bin/superBin
[20:08] <PierrePaul> and I was expecting SUPERVAR to be set, it's not, but in superBin, $FROMETCENVIRONMENT *is* set
[20:08] <PierrePaul> so I will just use this one
[20:08] <PierrePaul> thanks again trism
[20:09] <rio_zenta> Hello. Is there anybody that works at canonical on this channel?
[20:09] <JamesMc_> Question for anyone who read this. Is there anyway to trick Ubuntu into install Windows printer drivers? I have a old Lexmark x9575 multifunction usb printer. I really would like to be able to print from my Ubuntu laptop with the hassle of load VirtualBox - the XP and then the drivers!!
[20:09] <tgm4883> rio_zenta: that doesn't seem like a support question
[20:09] <JamesMc_> Lexmark does not support Linux - already check the website.
[20:09] <tgm4883> rio_zenta: but I'd guess yes some
[20:10] <trism> PierrePaul: ahh okay, sorry I would have pasted them faster but I have to recreate them
[20:10] <JamesMc_> Even some generic drivers for Lexmark would be better than nothing.
[20:10] <rio_zenta> JamesMc_: The issue is that linux doesn't run .dll files. Perhaps trying through Wine might work.
[20:10] <rio_zenta> tgm4883: Do you work at Canonical?
[20:11] <tgm4883> rio_zenta: No. do you have a support question?
[20:11] <rio_zenta> tgm4883: No
[20:11] <tgm4883> rio_zenta: what are you looking for then?
[20:11] <JamesMc_> Rio_zenta - I wish it was as easy as loading it in wine.
[20:12] <Aaraigathor> They should just make java PPAPI instead of NPAPI. Zzz alright I'm done complaining. Thank you everyone for all the help! Off to cousin's graduation
[20:12] <rio_zenta> tgm4883: I am trying to get in touch with HR at Canonical, but there aren't any contact links on their site.
[20:13] <rio_zenta> JamesMc_: Have you tried plugging the printer in and seeing if ubuntu detects it? Perhaps older peripherals are more supported than newer ones.
[20:14] <tgm4883> rio_zenta: can you join #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:14] <JamesMc_> No dice on auto-detect. I tried using CUPS and failed.
[20:15] <Aaraigathor> rio_zenta: is it to partner with them? I found this link, don't know if it helps.. http://www.ubuntu.com/partners/contact-us
[20:15] <JamesMc_> The OpenPrinting website could not help either.
[20:15] <OerHeks> JamesMc_, that lexmark does not show up in openprinting, so it is a paperweight.
[20:15] <rio_zenta> Aaraigathor: I saw that link too, but no it isn't for partnering. thanks for checking though +1
[20:15] <Kamp> holstein how from within the tty determine which version and is it 32 or 64 bit version of ubuntu to determine?
[20:16] <Kamp> ...how to
[20:16] <bgardner> rio_zenta: Are you wanting a job with them?  Their job search page works fine.
[20:16] <Aaraigathor> rio_zenta: Main switchboard number: +44 20 7630 2400
[20:17] <Aaraigathor> rio_zenta: http://www.ubuntu.com/about/contact-us
[20:17] <JamesMc_> I wonder how hard is it to reverse-engineer printer driver?
[20:17] <guntbert> Aaraigathor: let it go - he succeeded already it seems
[20:18] <rio_zenta> Aaraigathor: Thanks for the suggestions.
[20:18] <Aaraigathor> Anytime
[20:20] <subz3r0> PARTY!
[20:25] <OerHeks> :-)
[20:25] <Kamp> can one access browser bookmarks from within the terminal?
[20:27] <maxime___> hello
[20:27] <maxime___> I just wanted to congratulate you for your system !
[20:27] <maxime___> burn the iso on the usb key, and it worked straight away, with wifi and so on
[20:27] <maxime___> well done
[20:28] <guntbert> maxime___: it's the system we use - do you have a support questionß
[20:28] <guntbert> ?
[20:28] <maxime___> no, not really
[20:28] <Sparro> Okay I have two totally unrelated issues - the first one is about network settings, the second about the GUI
[20:29] <Sparro> Network issue is probably going to be simple.
[20:29] <Sparro> I'm trying to set up OpenVPN so people outside my network can access the fileserver on the same network.  But when I look at my etc/network/interfaces it's almost completely empty - only loopback.
[20:30] <guntbert> Sparro: ask the one after the other
[20:30] <Sparro> But it's getting my static IP setting from -somewhere-.
[20:30] <maxime___> what can I do on the live usb to check if I have some 3D working please ?
[20:31] <Sparro> Are there any clues where the configuration is set if it's not in /etc/network/interfaces?
[20:32] <guntbert> Sparro: /etc/Networkmanager/...
[20:32] <Sparro> Ah, that might be it.  One moment...
[20:33] <Sparro> Oh ho, there it is.
[20:36] <gru_> i am trying to sudo scp files directly into www but keep getting 'permission denied' , what can i do to fix this?
[20:36] <gru_> wtf
[20:36] <gru_> i am trying to sudo scp files directly into www but keep getting 'permission denied' , what can i do to fix this?
[20:37] <gru_> mass join?
[20:37] <jpds> sudo scp?
[20:37] <jpds> That'd do things as root on your LOCAL machine.
[20:37] <gru_> cscp is secure copy
[20:37] <jpds> Not on the other end.
[20:37] <gru_> ok
[20:37] <gru_> thnx
[20:38] <gru_> so i should just scp them to a non root dir then mv them?
[20:38] <netameta> what does ./configure --prefix=/usr do ?
[20:38] <jpds> gru_: Yep.
[20:38] <gru_> kool
[20:38] <jpds> !compiling | netameta
[20:39] <genii> Alternately, set up keybased authentication for www-data
[20:39] <Korny123> I'm having issues with my system time basically going double speed on a fresh install of ubuntu(mythbuntu).  WOuld a bad CMOS battery contribute to this (not sure if the battery is even bad).  I set the time of both the hardware clock and system clock, but the system clock continues to run at double time, anyone have any ideas?
[20:41] <genii> You probably have some cpu race condition. Maybe set the time from ntp instead
[20:42] <Korny123> genial I did.... I set it 15 minutes ago
[20:42] <Korny123> its not 15 minutes fast...
[20:42] <Korny123> errr *now
[20:42] <JamesMc_> I have a different question for Support. I am using Ubuntu 13.10 with Gnome "Flashback" desktop. I heard that the LDXE desktop uses less resources. Could there be problems if I install and load the Lubuntu desktop and the delete the old desktop?
[20:43] <lnb> how does one get either 14.04 or 13.10 working on an asus notebook with geforce m425
[20:43] <lnb> nouveau just keeps kicking me off
[20:43] <lnb> this is worse than windows 3.1
[20:44] <Istalantar> find ./ -name 'FILENAME' -exec qpdf --password=PASSWORD --decrypt {} new'{}\; anyone knows why this doesn't work?
[20:44] <OerHeks> !nvidia
[20:46] <Sparro> Alright, my second question...  When I use RDP to connect to the server I get no taskbar and no way to run anything.  Can that be fixed?
[20:46] <trism> Istalantar: unterminated ' at the end, and you need a space between the last argument and \;
[20:47] <lnb> spend hours installing reinstalling rsync /home/ back and forth. Only to find both 13.10 and 14.04 will not function properly
[20:47] <lnb> unbuntu
[20:50] <Istalantar> trism: the first {} is input file and new'{} was supposed to be the name of the output file ... don't really know how else to rename the output file
[20:51] <trism> Istalantar: I didn't say anything about the {}, new'{} has an unterminated '
[20:52] <captain_hook> Hey all. I installed ubuntu on a vaio duo 11 and I am having some performance issues. Slow animations when window collapses, vidoes that lag. The computer has 8gb of ram and is 64bit.
[20:52] <captain_hook> Is there anything i can do to improve performance? It ran windows 8.1 just fine.
[20:52] <trism> Istalantar: if you want an ' in the name, then: new\'{}
[20:53] <freshmint>  hey i upgrade from ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04, my main desktop environment was ubuntu though i installed xubuntu for trial parallel. Now after updating from 12.04 to 14.04 only the xubuntu desktop environment is available. How can i manually reinstall the unity ubuntu desktop so that I may choose both on log in?
[20:53] <Istalantar> trism: but {} replaces the name of the file, i thought i could add the part new with '
[20:54] <bekks> freshmint: Are you using mint, currently?
[20:54] <captain_hook> I just think that it's weird that my computer could run windows 8.1 fine and then have ubuntu lag
[20:54] <trism> Istalantar: I don't understand what you are asking, if find finds /path/to/file then new\'{} will be expanded to: new'/path/to/file
[20:54] <freshmint> bekks nope ubuntu, well ubuntu however with xubuntu
[20:55] <trism> Istalantar: but if you just use ', bash tries to parse a string of the form 'sometexthere', but never finds the second ', so waits for input with >
[20:57] <Istalantar> trism: i am trying to remove a password from some pdf files with qpdf --password=PASSWORD --decrypt INFILE OUTFILE ... i thought in combination with find i could change several pdf files at once
[20:57] <js1123__> hello; does anyone know why i can't log on to /server irc.snoonet.org ? (I was able to connect and chat on it a couple of minutes ago....)
[20:57] <MrJohnnZ> did someone earlier on want to get in contact with canonical?
[20:57] <bekks> MrJohnnZ: Why?
[20:58] <MrJohnnZ> there's an contact us section on ubuntus site
[20:59] <bekks> MrJohnnZ: And?
[20:59] <MrJohnnZ> I was just curious
[20:59] <Pici> MrJohnnZ: We got them in contact with a Canonical employee who we think was able to help them.
[20:59] <MrJohnnZ> that's all
[20:59] <MrJohnnZ> ok
[20:59] <Pici> MrJohnnZ: thanks though
[21:01] <trism> Istalantar: yes it can, maybe you should be more specific about what is working, I thought the problem was just with your find command because as you typed it, it won't execute correctly
[21:01] <trism> Istalantar: not working that is
[21:07] <natas_> can anyone help me fix these broken packages so i can update to 14.04? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7660409/
[21:10] <lnb> i can't believe how bad this unbuntu is 13.10/14.04  it really SUCKS bad
[21:10] <MrJohnnZ> you can always use an older version
[21:10] <willwh> lnb: if you don't like it, change it
[21:10] <lnb> i am
[21:10] <conall> Could someone tell me what the f*ck LITP (pronounced lit-pee) is? Thanks. PS Ive googled the sh1t out of it bit havent gotten anything
[21:10] <willwh> lnb: you don't like unity? install a different wm
[21:11] <MrJohnnZ> its also open soruce so... feel free to modify the code
[21:11] <lnb> i dont like installing/reinstalling only to get get kicked off, or add another user account login, locks up
[21:11] <MrJohnnZ> report the bugs
[21:11] <natas_> that sounds quite odd
[21:11] <lnb> use gnome
[21:12] <natas_> conall, can you elaborate even slightly?
[21:12] <lnb> 14.04 just locks with black screen eith a bunch of messages about nouveau stuff
[21:12] <natas_> lnb, sounds like the typical videocard issues
[21:13] <conall> hi natas_  Im not sure if its spelled right. Its an application that allows for easy package management or something like that
[21:13] <lnb> tried using propriatary drivers too and that made it worse
[21:13] <lnb> geforce m425
[21:13] <natas_> litp? i am asking more or less, how do you know you need it, can you show me some error message or something?
[21:13] <natas_> lnb, that's a common issue to all ubuntus
[21:14] <conall> No I dont need it. Its just We use it at work (Im new) and Im trying to find out more about it
[21:14] <lnb> then reinstalled after using FreeBSD to get rid of all partitions first, to 13.10.. login, create a second user, login, asks if 14.04 upgrade is OK, decline, can't do a thing. just sits there
[21:14] <roberta_> hello guys, what should I do so Ubuntu doesn't ask me for user authentication on startup? I'm going to be the only user in this computer, so I'd like it to login on my  user without asking me for my password.
[21:14] <lnb> i will put back 12.04 for now
[21:14] <GuppyMan> Hello, I'm trying to reinstall 14.04 LTS from a Unetbootin USB stick, as I was messing around with tuner card drivers and wanted a fresh install with just the drivers that work.  But, every time I run Try Ubuntu, Install Ubuntu, Install Ubuntu as OEM, or just try booting to my install, shortly after logging in it reboots.  This created an endless boot loop.
[21:15] <natas_> lnb, are you new to ubuntu? do you mean apt-get?
[21:15] <natas_> you said package manager, but what kind for what?
[21:15] <lnb> yea, about 5 or so years
[21:15] <lnb> with ubuntu, FreeBSD for many years before that
[21:16] <conall> natas_ : All I know is that we were trying to install an rmp, and instead of using the rpm command someone used litp, however it needed a plugin so it didnt work in the end
[21:16] <lnb> i looked at many web sites regarding the video issues and could not get this 14.04 work stable
[21:17] <natas_> conall, an rpm on ubuntu? you don't mean a .deb and apt-get?
[21:17] <lnb> this time with 12.04 i hope i dont have to overwrite /home
[21:18] <conall> oh no, sorry. this was on a linux machine
[21:18] <lnb> so tired of rsync back and forth and reinstalling
[21:18] <IKOGJ> waddup
[21:18] <mhoney> nuttin
[21:18] <IKOGJ> anybody know how to install wine on Kali Linux
[21:18] <bekks> IKOGJ: Ask the kali support.
[21:18] <IKOGJ> They slow...
[21:18] <mhoney> apt-get install wine?
[21:18] <natas_> lnb, on aredhat server?
[21:19] <IKOGJ> so i was walking by the block... and a hawk swoops on me, and tries to steal my ear..
[21:19] <bekks> !kali | IKOGJ
[21:19] <mhoney> pacman -S wine
[21:19] <IKOGJ> ^
[21:19] <IKOGJ> ill try
[21:19] <natas_> IKOGJ, https://2c2bn.wordpress.com/2014/02/28/how-to-install-wine-on-kali-linux/
[21:19] <natas_> might help
[21:19] <lnb> natas_: ?
[21:19] <IKOGJ> apt-get install wine only leaves me with "not familiar blah blah not a candidate"
[21:19] <IKOGJ> so i was walking by the block... and a hawk swoops on me, and tries to steal my ear..
[21:20] <IKOGJ> hey Xchat is pretty cool
[21:20] <natas_> IKOGJ, try with :i386?
[21:20] <GuppyMan> How would I go about setting nomodeset with a unetbootin 14.04 LTS stick?
[21:20] <IKOGJ> hey natas. dont worry about it
[21:20] <IKOGJ> i tried all options
[21:20] <ObrienDave> IKOGJ, Hexchat is even cooler ;)
[21:20] <GuppyMan> It starts with a grub menu.
[21:20] <IKOGJ> but i always recieve the message "not a candidate"
[21:20] <IKOGJ> receive*
[21:20] <natas_> sorry to hear, i guess back to google
[21:20] <bekks> IKOGJ: We cant help you, since kali is unsupported in here.
[21:20] <IKOGJ> WAIT
[21:20] <IKOGJ> moffucckas
[21:21] <IKOGJ> who gonna light the blunt with me
[21:21] <bekks> !language | IKOGJ
[21:21] <IKOGJ> my bad
[21:21] <IKOGJ> ...
[21:21] <natas_> lol
[21:21] <mxvxrts> GuppyMan, If you have a grub menu you would hit E and insert nomodeset,
[21:21] <IKOGJ> Anyways, I'm on musescore
[21:21] <IKOGJ> a hawk attacked me
[21:22] <IKOGJ> I need wine for kali linux / fl studio
[21:22] <IKOGJ> i am a penetration tester
[21:22] <IKOGJ> all the girls ask me to check their firewalls
[21:22] <OerHeks> IKOGJ, we don't care. ask in the other channel.
[21:22] <natas_> IKOGJ, doesn't sound like you need kali
[21:22] <roberta_> hello guys, what should I do so Ubuntu doesn't ask me for user authentication on startup? I'm going to be the only user in this computer, so I'd like it to login on my  user without asking me for my password.
[21:23] <SierraAR> I'm having an issue booting into ubuntu off of the 14.04 64-bit ISO. I see the purple screen that lets me choose to boot into ubuntu, but after that, it sits for a while before bringing up a screen that says 'Gave up waiting for root device'
[21:23] <module000> sounds like he needs to 1) find a fire 2) die in it.  just my opinion
[21:23] <mxvxrts> roberta_, the users app has a autoligin
[21:23] <natas_> roberta_, in this day and age, i'd rather live with the fact i must login than have no login, imo
[21:23] <mxvxrts> auto login*
[21:23] <IKOGJ> Roberta_ you're gonna have to either reinstall with your partition not encrypted
[21:23] <OerHeks> SierraAR, system setting > user accounts, there you can set in autologin
[21:23] <IKOGJ> or go to settings and ect
[21:23] <SierraAR> OerHeks: I think you meant to highlight Robert_Zenz ;P
[21:23] <SierraAR> OerHeks: Errr, roberta_
[21:23] <GuppyMan> mxvxrts: Do I put it before or after the other text? Or after boot casper?
[21:24] <GuppyMan> mxvxrts: On the first line.
[21:24] <OerHeks>  SierraAR err sorry
[21:24] <mxvxrts> GuppyMan, I have never seen an actual grub menu on a iso loaded usb, so not sure what you see.
[21:24] <natas_> can anyone help me fix these broken packages so i can update to 14.04? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7660409/
[21:24] <GuppyMan> mxvxrts: I'll see if I can find a pic or something.
[21:25] <mxvxrts> natas_, Heh not in ythis day and age sorry. ;)
[21:25] <IKOGJ> You probably installed a partition with an encrypted boot system
[21:25] <IKOGJ> If not, then basically, you have to go to settings.
[21:26] <mxvxrts> natas_, However looks like ppa stuff xswat drivers?
[21:27] <IKOGJ> HELLO, where may I find a channels list of all servers.
[21:27] <module000> IKOGJ: for freenode? use the alis service
[21:27] <mxvxrts> natas_, As a guess is this all ppa related that is a lot of errors?
[21:30] <SierraAR> Any ideas why this is coming up when booting a virtual machine off an ubuntu iso? Never had this issue before: http://i.imgur.com/flAuv22.png
[21:31] <natas_> mxvxrts, i don't think i've used x-swat for a while, but there does seem to be driver issues and then some
[21:35] <natas_> SierraAR, it appears to be a grub problem with lvm, no?
[21:35] <FourFire> Hello, is there something wrong with Firefox 30?
[21:35] <okatoma> can someone help me on using xchat to get on freenode? I have been through the registration process a few times and have not gotten an email. I've tried differant ports etc. Surely I am missing something.
[21:35] <natas_> FourFire, what do you mean, elaborate?
[21:35] <SierraAR> natas_: Not sure.. Ubuntu isnt even installed; I get this when booting off a disk
[21:36] <FourFire> It's utilizing 100% of one of my cores and is very slow, this is odd because I'm not doing anything particularly intensive: browsing about 15 tabs on reddit
[21:36] <natas_> SierraAR, usb?
[21:36] <poedd> hi
[21:36] <FourFire> this has never been an issue before
[21:36] <mxvxrts> natas_, Look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d and see what is there as far as ppa's
[21:36] <natas_> FourFire, addons?
[21:36] <SierraAR> natas_: ISO file, running through a virtual drive connected to the virtual machine
[21:36] <FourFire> it's as if there's a memory leak, but with CPU cycles
[21:36] <FourFire> addons unchanged since version 28
[21:36] <natas_> FourFire, what addons though
[21:36] <SierraAR> First time I've ever had an issue with this
[21:37] <FourFire> I have noscript, adblockedge a youtube downloader,
[21:37] <natas_> SierraAR, sounds very strange, i'd check your grub and lvm
[21:37] <natas_> er
[21:37] <natas_> you said iso...
[21:37] <SierraAR> natas_: I'd have no idea how I'd do that when booting off a disk/iso
[21:37] <lnb> ubuntu-gnome-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso was the last failure
[21:37] <daftykins> FourFire: try a clean profile.
[21:37] <lnb> installing 12.04 on that notebook now
[21:37] <lnb> at least it will work
[21:37] <mxvxrts> natas_, These will also show in the software source gui
[21:37] <FourFire> Ghostery, Righttoclick, MAFF and Multitabhandler
[21:37] <natas_> SierraAR, what iso is it?
[21:38] <SierraAR> natas_: ubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso, acquired through the torrents listed on ubuntu's alternative downloads section
[21:38] <natas_> mxvxrts, so just delete these non-official files in here?
[21:39] <natas_> SierraAR, virtualbox?
[21:39] <SierraAR> natas_: VMWare Workstation 10
[21:39] <natas_> oh, i can't run that to duplicate :[
[21:39] <natas_> you tried the 32bit iso?
[21:39] <SierraAR> :<
[21:40] <mxvxrts> natas_ No, youwill have to if the ppa's are the issue run a purge to reset all they have provided to the ubuntu repos packages, as of right now only you can confirm this.
[21:40] <mxvxrts> !ppa-purge | natas_
[21:40] <SierraAR> natas_: Hm.. Nope, but the VM should be configured for 64 bit ubuntu
[21:40] <suse> Hey, I'm getting "No operating system found." However, if I put in a live CD and choose "boot hard drive" the OS boots perfectly fine. What are youre thoughts? (Disclosure: I'm running openSUSE, but haven't gotten a reply elsewhere) Also, my laptop is L502x. Help would be great :)
[21:41] <SierraAR> natas_: Looking like the 32-bit iso is just giving me a blank screen with no error messages
[21:41] <natas_> sounds very very odd
[21:41] <SierraAR> natas_: Oh, wait, there it is. Exact same issue as the 64-bit one
[21:41] <Sparro> Okay, lightdm doesn't seem to work remotely
[21:42] <Sparro> Live and learn, I guess
[21:42] <natas_> SierraAR, wish i had a windows box to duplicate with, sorry
[21:42] <Bashing-om> suse: Seems like you should try and (re-)install the bootloader to the hard disks.
[21:43] <mxvxrts> suse, Look at gparted from a live cd, you may have a broken partition table. Has this set up ever been a uefi/gpt computer?
[21:44] <natas_> mxvxrts, is there a way to list them as the ppas, so i can tell what the repository-name/subdirectory is?
[21:44] <natas_> SierraAR, do you have another vm to test in?
[21:44] <okatoma> It is most likely that at boot up grub or lilo...whatever you are using is not being found
[21:45] <SierraAR> natas_: Not on this machine; I just recently reinstalled windows after a hardware update (New CPU and motherboard) and forgot to backup my virtual machines
[21:45] <mxvxrts> natas_, Software sources list all repos, so does sources.list which is the standard ubuntu repos, and sources.list.d which woud be 3rd parties like ppa's if you used the standard installation of ppa's and did not just add them to the soureces.list
[21:46] <natas_> mxvxrts, i am just saying i can't tell how to format those to purge some sources.list.d
[21:47] <natas_> nevermind, i have an idea
[21:47] <mxvxrts> natas_ Basically you will have to dig through your error list and ppa's shown to remove and or go to the ppa's webpage and look at packages you have from them.
[21:47] <natas_> yea
[21:47] <suse> mxvxrts, http://pastebin.com/TeuSpYJm
[21:48] <mxvxrts> natas_ The ppa-purge bot link has all the info on how to purge.
[21:48] <suse> I think it's set up correctly?
[21:51] <mxvxrts> suse, Okay I see gpt and legacy boot, was this a W8 computer or a custom made computer with a UEFI bios?
[21:51] <mxvxrts> is this *
[21:53] <mxvxrts> suse, Are you familiar with UEFI or gpt partitions? If you do not understand anything we ask here always say so. ;)
[21:56] <suse> mxvxrts, I fon't fully understand EUFI, but it was a win7 when I bought it
[21:56] <JamesMc_> Question. Are there any major problems switching desktop environments in Ubuntu?
[21:57] <mxvxrts> natas_, Technically we do not support PPA's here and using them is at your own risk, and at this point we are assuming the PPA's which you have not confirmed you have have "may" be part of the issue. We have confirmed nothing here as a cause and effect.
[21:57] <ogohzi> hello everyone, I'd like to ask if you'd recommend any of the virtual machines more than the others.
[21:58] <natas_> mxvxrts, yea i basically get that, i am just trying to remove them all
[21:58] <e^> ogohzi: virtualbox is ok
[21:58] <mxvxrts> suse, You have a gpt partition table that can be removed though and probably fix this, do you have suse backed up?
[21:59] <suse> mxvxrts, yes
[22:00] <mxvxrts> suse, cool try this to remove the gpt table, http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/wipegpt.html
[22:00] <mxvxrts> suse, I'm assuming you do not want gpt.
[22:00] <ogohzi> e^ , thank you :)
[22:01] <Bashing-om> mxvxrts: suse :: consider GPT partitioning requires a EFI /boot partiton .. non existent at this time.
[22:01] <mxvxrts> natas_, Cool, hope you get it resolved. ;)
[22:01] <natas_> thanks :]
[22:02] <mxvxrts> Bashing-om, Has a gpt table probably remnants and rfeguar partitons, this is not uncommon when they disc is not wiped correctly for msdos
[22:02] <mxvxrts> regular
[22:03] <Bashing-om> mxvxrts: Thanks, noted for future reference.
[22:04] <SymfonyMexico> #ubuntu
[22:04] <mxvxrts> Bashing-om, It is weird stuff, heh. ;(
[22:04] <mxvxrts> ;)
[22:04] <natas_> ok purge ppas, here we go again
[22:04] <natas_> purged*
[22:05] <fiaodilz> what is the most funny freenode channel? :o
[22:05] <SymfonyMexico> segun yo estoy en #ubuntu
[22:05] <natas_> fiaodilz, funny? #defocus?
[22:05] <SymfonyMexico> xD
[22:05] <mxvxrts> !es | SymfonyMexico
[22:06] <WilsonMathew> I got this problem when I try to install something, http://codepad.org/OOZ3EOPP or remove something. I know it has to do with the file /var/lib/dpkg/status because I did: mv /var/lib/dpkg/status-old /var/lib/dpkg/status. I was trying to install awesomewm. Any hints on how to fix this? thanks
[22:06] <Bashing-om> mxvxrts: Yeah .. with the advent of UeFI, secure boo,t SSRT .. GPT partitioning .>>>.. OH for the days af a 57 chevy !
[22:06] <fiaodilz> well... let's test x)
[22:08] <suse> mxvxrts, thanks, I'll give a swing and I might be back later
[22:08] <mxvxrts> Bashing-om, Yeah, I used to ride street 2 strokes motorcycles used to be the fastest lightest machines, gp racing and all, those were the daze. ;)
[22:10] <suse> mxvxrts, do you think my MBR set up as http://pastebin.com/E5eV6rLq should boot if I blow away the GPT
[22:11] <mxvxrts> suse, Should that is the point with rods info, the gpt remnants just get removed.
[22:12] <Elrafie> plz where is the ubuntu touch channel ?
[22:13] <mxvxrts> suse, I did ask if you were backed up though, you want to always be prepared for any contingency is all.
[22:13] <mxvxrts> Elrafie, #ubuntu-touch
[22:15] <suse> mxvxrts, yeah, I'm backed up. I havent successfully gotten a reload on this laptop yet... I tried installing arch and it wouldn't even let me get a ping to 8.8.8.8. I'm just going to run with it and see hows it goes :)
[22:26] <roberta_> hello everyone, My webcam (C3 Tech OMS 19) works its video on Cheese, but it is not receiving any audio. Also its video is not working on Skype. Could anyone assist me in this problem? Thanks!
[22:32] <mxvxrts> roberta_, Are you using the skype from the ubuntu repos rather than their website?
[22:33] <roberta_> mxvxrts, yes
[22:34] <mxvxrts> roberta_, Ah that is all I would know, the skyoe wiki says to use the repos, and I have seen issue that were just based on using skypes downloaded version.
[22:34] <natas_> mxvxrts, i fixed it finally by purging the packages with dpkg
[22:35] <mxvxrts> natas_, Excellent, so you are good for an upgrade?
[22:35] <natas_> yup, it's fetching finally
[22:35] <roberta_> mxvxrts, is there any place where I should be able to find a drive for it? Because this webcam has a mic on it, and it is all through USB... not sure what to do if Ubuntu recognize its model and all.
[22:35] <mxvxrts> natas_, Woohoo. ;)
[22:36] <natas_> thanks for the help, much appreciated
[22:37] <mxvxrts> roberta_, I would run that webcam info at askubuntu in the search, and your release as well, and just a web search.
[22:38] <mxvxrts> roberta_, I would check the manufacturer for any linux stuff too.
[22:38] <roberta_> mxvxrts, I might do that, thanks!
[22:38] <mxvxrts> np
[22:38] <puff> Good afternoon.  I have a t520 thinkpad running ubuntu 13.10.  I have a minidock with an external monitor.  If I boot up my laptop while docked, the monitor works fine.  If I boot up without the dock, then dock it, the external monitor gets no video signal. Any idea how I turn on the external video signal?
[22:39] <skinux> I need some help solving problem of my TouchPad pointer being shaky, it's been this way since installation. I used gpointer-device-settings to increase pointer speed just a bit and shaky-ness became worse. It seems to switch between being precise and being shaky as it sees fit.
[22:40] <Sparro> puff: You could try restarting the display manager and see if that works.  sudo service lightdm restart
[22:40] <Sparro> It'll probably kill all your windows though, so be aware of that.
[22:42] <DadFoundMy> hey im about to install Xubuntu. Last time i tried 14.04 nm-applet didnt work correctly. is tht issue still going on?
[22:44] <mxvxrts> DadFoundMy, Not a known issue unless you find a bug.
[22:50] <17SAAEGIO> j
[22:50] <ce> hola
[22:50] <ce> alguien tiene servers ubuntu ahi
[22:51] <ce> hello did someone has ubuntu servers over there
[22:52] <jrib> ce: do you have a support question related to ubuntu?
[22:56] <ce> questions yes, i got a server running ubuntu 12 and i need to know if i upgrade to 14 what are the related issues htat i have to solve
[22:58] <comster404>  I'm trying to replace a failed drive in my mdadm array, but having trouble adding an entire disk (like I created the array) instead of a partition with the raid flag.  Any suggestions?
[23:03] <Sparro> comster404: From what I can see, you might need to use 'build' to set it back up.
[23:04] <comster404> Sparro, basically rebuild?
[23:04] <Sparro> comster404: Sorta.  This is a RAID setup where you don't have a per-device superblock?
[23:04] <comster404> raid 10
[23:05] <FmRUF> does any one know what version of libreoffice will be in 14.04.1
[23:05] <Ben64> FmRUF: very likely the same version that is currently in 14.04
[23:06] <Sparro> comster404: hmmmmm Did you use build mode to make it in the first place?
[23:06] <FmRUF> Ben64: Thank you I will look that up, I have not updated to 14.04 yest waiting for 14.04.1
[23:06] <Ben64> !info libreoffice
[23:06] <jackbrown> hello there I'm trying to make it works on linux a thermal printer that is recognized as IEEE-1284 usb controller   lsusb = Bus 003 Device 004: ID 067b:2305 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2305 Parallel Port printer model GWP-80 thermal printer thanks for reading
[23:07] <comster404> I used create on 4 disks, /dev/sda to /dev/sdd ... but having trouble adding a disk, instead of a partition with raid flag like sdd1 which is 1MB too small from what I can tell
[23:09] <mxvxrts> jackbrown, So what have you done so far besides the lsusb check?
[23:09] <therealfakemoot> Hi. I'm looking to completely and utterly remove all hotkeys related to Unity and its launcher, its shortcuts, and all of its ilk.
[23:09] <therealfakemoot> Like Alt, the Meta key, etc
[23:09] <Sparro> comster404: Okay, not what I was thinking then.
[23:09] <therealfakemoot> I can't find the bindings in the "keyboard" settings dialog
[23:10] <fernando__> spy here
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[23:10] <jackbrown> mxvxrts: i tried to install generic driver only text and didn't worked
[23:11] <jackbrown> mxvxrts: then I tried othe generic drivers and the just move thepaper inside the printer when I send the print command
[23:11] <mxvxrts> jackbrown, Have you checked the printers gui?
[23:11] <jackbrown> mxvxrts:  printer gui ?
[23:11] <mxvxrts> jackbrown, There is an app called printers for loading drivers if any are there.
[23:12] <jackbrown> mxvxrts: yes is where I installed generic driver in ubuntu
[23:12] <jackbrown> mxvxrts: the wizard
[23:12] <jjavaholic> !dbus
[23:13] <jackbrown> mxvxrts: the strange thing about this printer is that it's recognized as Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2305 usb -to parallel adapter
[23:13] <mxvxrts> jackbrown, When you say generic I'm not sure what you mean, I have in my experience seen drivers specific to printers.
[23:14] <jackbrown> mxvxrts: since the wizard doesn't find any specific driver for my printer suggests me to install a generic driver and give me a list
[23:15] <qwertyomen> jackbrown: your probably gonna have to hunt down the .ppd file and install it manually
[23:15] <mxvxrts> jackbrown, Ah, never been in that predicament, good to know though. Have you gone to the manufacturer and or relevant site per the lsusb info for linux drivers?
[23:15] <jackbrown> qwertyomen: the question is : " Does exist the ppd file for my printer?   Where can I should hunt it ?"
[23:16] <jackbrown> mxvxrts: yes I wrote to the manufactured, until now no  reply but they just provide windows driver when you buy the printer
[23:16]  * Refresh has any girl here
[23:16] <user123321> Help, Ubuntu latest LTS hanged twice consecutively during boot. Nothing is displayed on screen. Caps lock key is frozen. Should I try recovery mode and repair broken packages? PLeaee help. Thanks.
[23:16] <jackbrown> mxvxrts: here is the manufacturer website www.mwccdz.com
[23:17] <comster404> Sparro, thx, think I fixed it! whew... forced it to assemble first 3 disks, then was able to add the 4th... recovering now!
[23:17] <Sparro> comster404: What happens when you run 'repair' with the ... oh, excellent!
[23:17] <mxvxrts> jackbrown, good, probably as suggested a hunt for a linux driver is your quest, wear rubber boots, who knows where you will end up. ;)
[23:17] <qwertyomen> jackbrown: I guess I missed the model number of the printer...
[23:18] <comster404> Time to add a hot spare into the mix to save me some time next failure :)
[23:18] <Sparro> Hah, no kidding!  That makes it a lot faster, that's for sure.  :]
[23:18] <jackbrown> qwertyomen: GWP 80 portable thermal printer here is the manufacturer website www.mwccdz.com
[23:19] <Refresh> /join #shqiperia
[23:19] <jackbrown> mxvxrts: with the printer I got some .gpd files
[23:19]  * Refresh /join #shqiperia
[23:19] <Refresh> /ame /join #shqiperia
[23:19]  * Refresh d
[23:20] <user123321> hmm, Ubuntu now boots.
[23:20] <Sparro> Anyone know if it's possible to run the NetworkManager config from a window manager besides Unity?
[23:21] <user123321> I went to recovery and did normal boot, and then restarted again. Ubuntu booted successfully.
[23:21] <mxvxrts> Sparro, Not sure I understand that, maybe the actual issue m ight help.
[23:21] <qwertyomen> jackbrown: looks cool... and like it's gonna be a pain to find drivers... :D I think there's a way to translate windows drivers to a .ppd...
[23:22] <jackbrown> qwertyomen: really ? how??????????'
[23:22] <Sparro> mxvxrts: I'm using VNC remotely to get to my server, and I was having trouble with Unity so I installed Fluxbox.
[23:23] <Sparro> But that means I can't access the Network Manager configuration tool as one normally would.
[23:24] <mxvxrts> Sparro, Ah, that is more helpful, not familiar with vnc's or fluxbox, however and of the main canonical de should have nm working out of the box, if I understand your issue.
[23:24] <qwertyomen> jackbrown: ... looking into it... I hate printers lol.
[23:24] <mxvxrts> and=any Sparro
[23:24] <jackbrown> qwertyomen: yeah I hate too but I need :)
[23:25] <Sparro> mxvxrts: Hm.  I might try something besides fluxbox then.  Thanks!
[23:25] <mxvxrts> Sparro, lxde would be my suggestion
[23:26] <Sparro> I'll give it a look!
[23:29] <qwertyomen> jackbrown: I'm having a hard time tracking down Windows drivers...
[23:30] <jackbrown> qwertyomen: are you trying to find windows driver for my printer ?
[23:30] <qwertyomen> jackbrown: any drivers...
[23:30] <qwertyomen> for your printer
[23:31] <jackbrown> qwertyomen: i think you'll lose a lot of time if you want i can upload them for you
[23:31] <jackbrown> qwertyomen: I didn't find any download link even if they say there should be on manufacturer wesite
[23:31] <Sudo> does anyone one know how much ram ubuntu requires?
[23:31] <qwertyomen> jackbrown: ha found it! had to translate from chinese...
[23:31] <jackbrown> qwertyomen: where ?
[23:31] <Guest42442> i can't find the specs page for ubuntu
[23:31] <daftykins> Guest42442: for the very latest Ubuntu 14.04 with unity, desktop edition, you'd likely want 2GB+
[23:32] <qwertyomen> jackbrown: the website you provided, it's on the lower left hand corner. I bet it's just MS drivers... fighting super slow chinanet download speeds :D
[23:32] <jackbrown> qwertyomen: lo
[23:33] <jackbrown> lol
[23:34] <qwertyomen> 6.9 KB/s
[23:34] <jackbrown> qwertyomen: for me it's 22KB/s
[23:34] <qwertyomen> Nice!
[23:36] <jackbrown> qwertyomen: luckyly it's a small file
[23:43] <qwertyomen> jackbrown: might be able to get it to work with WINE
[23:43] <jackbrown> qwertyomen: I was thinking about that too but someon told me that CUPS need to recognize it
[23:43] <jackbrown> do you know how to set it with wine ? qwertyomen
[23:44] <seinthebear> question: how do I remove the BCD from a drive? I've been trying to get the Windows 8 bootloader to work w/ ubuntu 14.04 via easyBCD, i gave up and went with grub, but how it shows TWO windows 8 loaders
[23:45] <ObrienDave> seinthebear, easy enough to get rid of with grub-customizer
[23:45] <seinthebear> /dev/sda1 is the "system reserved" (where the bcd should be) and /dev/sda2 is the actual windows part. that shouldnt have a bcd
[23:45] <seinthebear> ah
[23:45] <seinthebear> thank
[23:45] <seinthebear> *thank you
[23:47] <qwertyomen> jackbrown: no clue! lol kinda learning as I go with this, It doesn't look like there's a "simple" way to do any of it...
[23:48] <Refresh> Banditi Po Ktu
[23:48] <jackbrown> qwertyomen: you are at the same point
[23:48] <Banditi> sd\as\
[23:48] <qwertyomen> jackbrown: balls...
[23:48] <Vo1d> how change number port of nfs service ?
[23:48] <Banditi> o Refresh
[23:49]  * Refresh  :P
[23:49] <Refresh> Ome
[23:49] <seinthebear> ObrienDave, I was hoping to actually *remove* the bcd from the partition, not just cover it up
[23:50] <Banditi> ca je tu
[23:50] <Banditi> bo re
[23:50] <Refresh> HIC
[23:50]  * Refresh Good Night PeoPle
[23:50] <witheld> When a boot is interupted for whatever reason, on the next reboot GRUB waits for a human to select an option
[23:50] <witheld> how can I disable this?
[23:52] <ObrienDave> seinthebear, why do you want to get rid of BCD?
[23:52] <seinthebear> Obiwantje, i was messing with easybcd and installed a windows 8 bootloader to the windows 8 partition instead of the system reserved one
[23:53] <seinthebear> erm
[23:53] <seinthebear> ObrienDave, ^
[23:53] <qwertyomen> jackbrown: this seems to be the most in depth on installing printers with WINE http://www.witch.westfalen.de/Wine-HOWTO/wineprintconfig.html
[23:54] <mxvxrts> witheld, never see this can you elaborate?
[23:55] <mxvxrts> seems like an assumption is all
[23:57] <phillyj> hi, I'm trying to install TORCS but I get a make error; http://paste.ubuntu.com/7660998/
[23:57] <phillyj> any ideas what's wrong?
[23:59] <phillyj> hmm, the error didn't show up on pastebin