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joey_hi02:56
joey_does anyone here work on ubuntu studio ?02:56
joey_help03:07
joey_how do i stop ubuntu from showing errors on startup03:12
joey_its annoying03:12
joey_sooo annoying03:12
joey_is there a log i have to read ?03:12
joey_something ?03:12
holsteinjoey_: why?03:49
holsteinjoey_: you are likely seeing messages.. not errors03:49
holsteinjoey_: there is little way to integrate into the hardware to make it hide all of those03:49
holsteinjoey_: you can try a grub config to quiet them, but i assume you have already tried that..03:50
holstein!grub03:50
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub203:50
holsteinhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/248/how-can-i-show-or-hide-boot-messages-when-ubuntu-starts03:50
joey_no03:52
joey_not grub!03:52
joey_xfce403:52
joey_when I login :)03:52
holsteinjoey_: you would have but to ask a question03:53
holstein!details03:53
ubottuPlease elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)03:53
joey_i get like 4 of them03:53
joey_bugs03:53
holsteini have no idea what you are looking at.. take screenshots..03:53
joey_and it ask03:53
holstein!paste03:53
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joey_for03:53
joey_oh boy ok03:53
joey_hold on03:53
holsteinjoey_: you are assuming bug..03:53
holsteinjoey_: oh boy?03:53
joey_haha03:53
joey_what?03:54
holsteinjoey_: let me help you with what our relationship is.. im a volunteer here.. and im offering volunteer help03:54
joey_you know when it ask for report03:54
joey_k ill restart03:54
holsteinjoey_: please try and use patience and share any details that can help a volunteer assist you03:54
joey_ok brb03:54
holsteinjoey_: "it" doesnt ask me for a report, friend.. this is going to be quite specific to your hardware, and "messages" based on your hardware case03:57
joey_lol03:58
holsteinjoey_: ?03:58
joey_I get these : http://imgur.com/oV3OIFx03:58
joey_Everytime I log in03:58
joey_It's in french03:59
joey_god damnit03:59
joey_oh only one is03:59
joey_it says exactly the same thing03:59
holstein!language | joey_03:59
ubottujoey_: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList03:59
joey_sorry03:59
joey_sigh03:59
joey_My life is bad ok ?03:59
joey_I'm sorry03:59
holsteinjoey_: ?03:59
holsteinjoey_: this is a support channel for an operating system, friend.. has nothing to do with life04:00
joey_I am alone04:00
holsteinok.. you dont need anyone to address your situation..04:00
joey_well it's my life04:00
joey_I don't ?04:00
joey_It says system program problem detected04:00
holsteinjoey_: please feel free and communicate about your life in an offtopic channel. #ubuntu-offtopic or the defocus channel04:00
holsteinjoey_: otherwise.. what i would do about the popup messages is, start by applying upgrades..04:01
joey_Done04:01
joey_I am an upgrade freak04:01
holsteinjoey_: in a terminal.. "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"04:01
holsteinjoey_: you can run the commands i gave above, and report that you are up to date..04:01
holsteinjoey_: then, if you have any PPA's or 3rd party unsupported sources, you'll want to consider removing them04:02
holstein!ppa04:02
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge04:02
joey_I am04:02
holstein!info ppa-purge04:02
ubottuppa-purge (source: ppa-purge): disables a PPA and reverts to official packages. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.8+bzr57 (trusty), package size 5 kB, installed size 44 kB04:02
joey_uh04:02
joey_I don't trust these so no...04:02
joey_the only thing would be infinality but it always worked fine04:02
joey_and I installed that one myself04:02
holsteinjoey_: "it" always worked fine?04:03
joey_Never had an error from using it for months04:03
joey_while...*04:03
holsteinfrom using what?04:03
joey_Infinality04:03
holsteindid installing it cause the messages?04:03
joey_nope04:03
joey_It is the first thing I installed04:03
holsteinok.. then, its likely its no issue then, correct?04:03
joey_always is04:03
joey_Yes, I would assume.04:04
holsteinjoey_: ok.. but, do you feel its not causing the issue?04:04
joey_Especially if I get 4 prompts04:04
holsteinok.. what i would do next is, test as another user..04:04
joey_No because it is working properly04:04
holsteinif i dont see those messages as the guest user, or a different user, then the issue could be in my user config04:05
joey_and what would be the if else of that04:05
holsteinjoey_: the "if else of that" ?04:05
joey_haha04:05
holsteinjoey_: ?04:05
joey_I am bad at programming?04:05
holsteinjoey_: i dont know what you are talking about. or asking me04:05
holsteini dont konw what that means when you ask "whats the if else of that"...04:06
holsteinjoey_: if you want an answer from me, you'll need to elaborate04:06
joey_oh im so tired04:06
joey_sorry04:06
joey_just be cool man04:06
holsteinjoey_: no need to be sorry.. just ask, friend04:06
holsteinjoey_: i am asking that you "be cool"04:07
joey_im not the brightest04:07
holsteinjoey_: i didnt say that.. just ask, friend04:07
joey_What I would like to know04:07
joey_is to find the root of the problem04:07
holsteinjoey_: you dont need to say that..04:07
holsteinjust ask..04:07
joey_Can't I read some log to see what those prompts are about ?04:08
holsteinjoey_: do you see the messages as the guest user? or another user?04:08
joey_hold on04:08
holsteinjoey_: you can read kwhat you like, friend.. if you are reading what im writing, i suggest using the guest account and/or another user to remove your user config from the equation04:08
joey_uh?04:08
joey_"user config" "equation" ?04:09
holsteinjoey_: the guest account.. from the login screen.04:09
joey_ok brb then04:09
holsteinjoey_: each user, your user on the machine and all other user accounts have a config04:09
holsteinthe config for xfce, for the session.. *alll* the user applciations04:09
joey_No I do not get the prompts as Guest04:10
holsteinjoey_: using the guest account removes this users config from the equation.. and can help me better determine where the issue might be..04:10
joey_Guest is fine04:11
holsteinjoey_: so, what would i do? start removing the user config files.. and resetting the ones pertaining to the "Messages" you are seeing04:11
joey_How04:11
holsteinjoey_: ?04:11
holsteinjoey_: as stated above, removing the offending user config files04:12
joey_how..04:12
holsteinjoey_: its not my system, friend.. so i would want to look and see what is "bad"04:12
holsteinjoey_: but, you can start with ~/.config/xfce04:12
holsteinyou dont have to delete or remove.. you can just rename, or move them out of the way for a bit.. and test..04:13
holsteinyou can try removing the saved, or cached sessions..04:13
joey_mmhh04:13
holstein.cache/sessions is likely where those are..04:14
holsteinanyways, you konw where the issue is, at least.. the "root of the problem" so to speak..04:14
joey_  yeah04:14
joey_i though about sessions04:14
holsteinjoey_: you thought about them?04:15
holsteinjoey_: unless you tried to remove them from the equation.. thinking about them wont do anything..04:15
joey_haha04:15
joey_this is funny04:15
holsteinjoey_: this?04:15
joey_O_O04:15
holsteinjoey_: you mean, my trying to volunteer support to you is humorous?04:16
joey_well04:16
holsteinjoey_: its not that funny for me04:16
joey_the fact that we do not understand each other very well04:16
joey_plus the idea that I am tired04:17
joey_I'M SORRY OK ?04:17
holsteinjoey_: the goal of this channel is not that.. our understanding each other is irrelevant04:17
holsteinjoey_: you need not be sorry.. just ask for support if you need it..04:17
joey_ok brb04:19
joey_I still get the exact same thing (4 prompts)04:20
holsteinjoey_: ok04:20
holsteinjoey_: from doing what?04:20
joey_from login in04:21
holsteinjoey_: what did you do?04:21
joey_log in04:21
holsteinjoey_: ok, friend. in order to change the behavior, you'll need to remove some config files04:21
holsteinjoey_: did you remove or rename the ones i suggested?04:21
joey_yes04:21
joey_I moved them in a bak folder04:22
joey_I think I just found something04:22
joey_to fix it04:22
holsteinjoey_: what would i do? i would make another user.. boot in. if i see no messages.. i would go back to my user and move *all* the .config or .hidden config files.. i would test.. if no messages, i would put back the few config files that im interested in keeping..04:23
joey_I am scared04:23
joey_http://www.techdrivein.com/2012/08/how-to-disable-system-program-problem.html04:24
holsteinjoey_: thats to disable the messaging system04:25
holsteinjoey_: i suggest you address the errors as listed above.. do what you like04:25
joey_yeah04:25
holsteinjoey_: feel free and ask in #ubuntu since this is not ubuntustudio related04:26
joey_i get your idea04:26
joey_They were old crashed04:32
joey_crashes*04:32
joey_I fixed it04:32
joey_With this http://askubuntu.com/questions/133385/getting-system-program-problem-detected-pops-up-regularly-after-upgrade04:32
joey_I'm keeping that one as a favorite04:32
joey_:D04:32
joey_Thanks anyway !04:33
joey_" sudo rm /var/crash/* " fixed it04:33
Unit193Wonder if he knows the dumps show up in .cache/upstart/ too. :D04:37
holsteinwell, i have a feeling joey will be back04:38
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koki26hola17:25
holsteino/17:25
koki26español?17:25
holstein!es17:25
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linguitaristneed help troubleshooting - D-Bus: Jack server could not be started18:28
linguitaristSys details18:28
linguitaristUbuntu 14.04, with ubuntu-studio packages installed, low latency kernel18:29
linguitaristalready added my user to the 'audio' group18:29
linguitaristbefore I ran the low latency kernel, I could start jack but without real-time scheduling18:30
linguitaristgoal:  run ardour3 on my dell xps 13 multicore ultrabook18:30
linguitaristsuggestions?18:30
linguitaristalso, it looks like pulseaudio is off.  is that the default with ubuntu studio or with the -lowlatency kernel?18:50
holsteinlinguitarist: without realtime scheduling?19:04
holsteinlinguitarist: all that should "just happen" now.. you shouldnt need to do anything to configure "realtime scheduling"19:05
holsteinlinguitarist: i would relax the jack settings, and undo whatever you did that seems to have broken it from starting..19:05
holsteinyou can use "gksudo qjackctl" to *temporarily* run as root to troubleshoot any permissions issues19:05
holsteinlinguitarist: you can run ardour3 with the generic kernel19:06
holsteinlinguitarist: my suggestion is.. if you have an internal audio device, forget about the term "lowlatency" and "realtime"19:06
holsteinlinguitarist: just use jack, with normal high latency..19:06
holsteinyou dont need lowlatency to use ardour,a nd to record and overdub19:07
holsteinthere are only 2 cases where you require lowlatency, and those are, realtime audio effects.. like wanting to playing a guitar and add software effects while playing the instrument live19:07
holsteinthe other is live software synths.. playing a midi keyboard as a live instrument live in realtime..19:07
holsteinyou will not be able to achieve latency settings to facilitate this likely with *any* internal, onboard, built-in audio device19:08
holsteinbut, thats ok, since you are likely not doing either of those things and just read the term "realtime" somewhere, and assumed it was necessary, and its not19:08
linguitaristok, i found a mirrored version of the jackaudio.org site (currently down) and am getting informed on real time scheduling20:08
linguitaristunderstand now that I don't need the special kernel20:09
linguitaristthx20:09
linguitaristhttps://web.archive.org/web/20140330103313/http://jackaudio.org/linux_rt_config20:10
linguitaristfyi20:10
linguitaristi fixed it all by killing jackdbus from the commandline20:18
linguitaristnow i can run pulse and jack again, but still can't get jack to run with real-time scheduling.  The RT light is flashing in my qjackctl display.20:21
linguitaristI assume this means I need to try different jack latency parameters .. is that right?20:21
linguitaristor it might be a permissions issue, because I'm using plain ubuntu, with the the ubuntu-studio packages added later20:23
linguitaristI don't see a group for 'audio' or 'realtime' in /etc/security/limits.conf20:23
OvenWerkslinguitarist: look in limits.d21:09
OvenWerksthe file will have the word dissabled appended to it for no rt. rename to fix21:12
OvenWerksalso need your user to have audio group21:13
OvenWerksthe linux_lowlatency kernel is much easier to tune with.21:14
linguitaristmy user had the audio group, but the audio group doesn't seem to the right security limits21:29
linguitaristI reconfigured it, now have to logout.  bye21:30

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