[02:56] <joey_> hi
[02:56] <joey_> does anyone here work on ubuntu studio ?
[03:07] <joey_> help
[03:12] <joey_> how do i stop ubuntu from showing errors on startup
[03:12] <joey_> its annoying
[03:12] <joey_> sooo annoying
[03:12] <joey_> is there a log i have to read ?
[03:12] <joey_> something ?
[03:49] <holstein> joey_: why?
[03:49] <holstein> joey_: you are likely seeing messages.. not errors
[03:49] <holstein> joey_: there is little way to integrate into the hardware to make it hide all of those
[03:50] <holstein> joey_: you can try a grub config to quiet them, but i assume you have already tried that..
[03:50] <holstein> !grub
[03:50] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/248/how-can-i-show-or-hide-boot-messages-when-ubuntu-starts
[03:52] <joey_> no
[03:52] <joey_> not grub!
[03:52] <joey_> xfce4
[03:52] <joey_> when I login :)
[03:53] <holstein> joey_: you would have but to ask a question
[03:53] <holstein> !details
[03:53] <joey_> i get like 4 of them
[03:53] <joey_> bugs
[03:53] <holstein> i have no idea what you are looking at.. take screenshots..
[03:53] <joey_> and it ask
[03:53] <holstein> !paste
[03:53] <joey_> for
[03:53] <joey_> oh boy ok
[03:53] <joey_> hold on
[03:53] <holstein> joey_: you are assuming bug..
[03:53] <holstein> joey_: oh boy?
[03:53] <joey_> haha
[03:54] <joey_> what?
[03:54] <holstein> joey_: let me help you with what our relationship is.. im a volunteer here.. and im offering volunteer help
[03:54] <joey_> you know when it ask for report
[03:54] <joey_> k ill restart
[03:54] <holstein> joey_: please try and use patience and share any details that can help a volunteer assist you
[03:54] <joey_> ok brb
[03:57] <holstein> joey_: "it" doesnt ask me for a report, friend.. this is going to be quite specific to your hardware, and "messages" based on your hardware case
[03:58] <joey_> lol
[03:58] <holstein> joey_: ?
[03:58] <joey_> I get these : http://imgur.com/oV3OIFx
[03:58] <joey_> Everytime I log in
[03:59] <joey_> It's in french
[03:59] <joey_> god damnit
[03:59] <joey_> oh only one is
[03:59] <joey_> it says exactly the same thing
[03:59] <holstein> !language | joey_
[03:59] <joey_> sorry
[03:59] <joey_> sigh
[03:59] <joey_> My life is bad ok ?
[03:59] <joey_> I'm sorry
[03:59] <holstein> joey_: ?
[04:00] <holstein> joey_: this is a support channel for an operating system, friend.. has nothing to do with life
[04:00] <joey_> I am alone
[04:00] <holstein> ok.. you dont need anyone to address your situation..
[04:00] <joey_> well it's my life
[04:00] <joey_> I don't ?
[04:00] <joey_> It says system program problem detected
[04:00] <holstein> joey_: please feel free and communicate about your life in an offtopic channel. #ubuntu-offtopic or the defocus channel
[04:01] <holstein> joey_: otherwise.. what i would do about the popup messages is, start by applying upgrades..
[04:01] <joey_> Done
[04:01] <joey_> I am an upgrade freak
[04:01] <holstein> joey_: in a terminal.. "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[04:01] <holstein> joey_: you can run the commands i gave above, and report that you are up to date..
[04:02] <holstein> joey_: then, if you have any PPA's or 3rd party unsupported sources, you'll want to consider removing them
[04:02] <holstein> !ppa
[04:02] <joey_> I am
[04:02] <holstein> !info ppa-purge
[04:02] <joey_> uh
[04:02] <joey_> I don't trust these so no...
[04:02] <joey_> the only thing would be infinality but it always worked fine
[04:02] <joey_> and I installed that one myself
[04:03] <holstein> joey_: "it" always worked fine?
[04:03] <joey_> Never had an error from using it for months
[04:03] <joey_> while...*
[04:03] <holstein> from using what?
[04:03] <joey_> Infinality
[04:03] <holstein> did installing it cause the messages?
[04:03] <joey_> nope
[04:03] <joey_> It is the first thing I installed
[04:03] <holstein> ok.. then, its likely its no issue then, correct?
[04:03] <joey_> always is
[04:04] <joey_> Yes, I would assume.
[04:04] <holstein> joey_: ok.. but, do you feel its not causing the issue?
[04:04] <joey_> Especially if I get 4 prompts
[04:04] <holstein> ok.. what i would do next is, test as another user..
[04:04] <joey_> No because it is working properly
[04:05] <holstein> if i dont see those messages as the guest user, or a different user, then the issue could be in my user config
[04:05] <joey_> and what would be the if else of that
[04:05] <holstein> joey_: the "if else of that" ?
[04:05] <joey_> haha
[04:05] <holstein> joey_: ?
[04:05] <joey_> I am bad at programming?
[04:05] <holstein> joey_: i dont know what you are talking about. or asking me
[04:06] <holstein> i dont konw what that means when you ask "whats the if else of that"...
[04:06] <holstein> joey_: if you want an answer from me, you'll need to elaborate
[04:06] <joey_> oh im so tired
[04:06] <joey_> sorry
[04:06] <joey_> just be cool man
[04:06] <holstein> joey_: no need to be sorry.. just ask, friend
[04:07] <holstein> joey_: i am asking that you "be cool"
[04:07] <joey_> im not the brightest
[04:07] <holstein> joey_: i didnt say that.. just ask, friend
[04:07] <joey_> What I would like to know
[04:07] <joey_> is to find the root of the problem
[04:07] <holstein> joey_: you dont need to say that..
[04:07] <holstein> just ask..
[04:08] <joey_> Can't I read some log to see what those prompts are about ?
[04:08] <holstein> joey_: do you see the messages as the guest user? or another user?
[04:08] <joey_> hold on
[04:08] <holstein> joey_: you can read kwhat you like, friend.. if you are reading what im writing, i suggest using the guest account and/or another user to remove your user config from the equation
[04:08] <joey_> uh?
[04:09] <joey_> "user config" "equation" ?
[04:09] <holstein> joey_: the guest account.. from the login screen.
[04:09] <joey_> ok brb then
[04:09] <holstein> joey_: each user, your user on the machine and all other user accounts have a config
[04:09] <holstein> the config for xfce, for the session.. *alll* the user applciations
[04:10] <joey_> No I do not get the prompts as Guest
[04:10] <holstein> joey_: using the guest account removes this users config from the equation.. and can help me better determine where the issue might be..
[04:11] <joey_> Guest is fine
[04:11] <holstein> joey_: so, what would i do? start removing the user config files.. and resetting the ones pertaining to the "Messages" you are seeing
[04:11] <joey_> How
[04:11] <holstein> joey_: ?
[04:12] <holstein> joey_: as stated above, removing the offending user config files
[04:12] <joey_> how..
[04:12] <holstein> joey_: its not my system, friend.. so i would want to look and see what is "bad"
[04:12] <holstein> joey_: but, you can start with ~/.config/xfce
[04:13] <holstein> you dont have to delete or remove.. you can just rename, or move them out of the way for a bit.. and test..
[04:13] <holstein> you can try removing the saved, or cached sessions..
[04:13] <joey_> mmhh
[04:14] <holstein> .cache/sessions is likely where those are..
[04:14] <holstein> anyways, you konw where the issue is, at least.. the "root of the problem" so to speak..
[04:14] <joey_>   yeah
[04:14] <joey_> i though about sessions
[04:15] <holstein> joey_: you thought about them?
[04:15] <holstein> joey_: unless you tried to remove them from the equation.. thinking about them wont do anything..
[04:15] <joey_> haha
[04:15] <joey_> this is funny
[04:15] <holstein> joey_: this?
[04:15] <joey_> O_O
[04:16] <holstein> joey_: you mean, my trying to volunteer support to you is humorous?
[04:16] <joey_> well
[04:16] <holstein> joey_: its not that funny for me
[04:16] <joey_> the fact that we do not understand each other very well
[04:17] <joey_> plus the idea that I am tired
[04:17] <joey_> I'M SORRY OK ?
[04:17] <holstein> joey_: the goal of this channel is not that.. our understanding each other is irrelevant
[04:17] <holstein> joey_: you need not be sorry.. just ask for support if you need it..
[04:19] <joey_> ok brb
[04:20] <joey_> I still get the exact same thing (4 prompts)
[04:20] <holstein> joey_: ok
[04:20] <holstein> joey_: from doing what?
[04:21] <joey_> from login in
[04:21] <holstein> joey_: what did you do?
[04:21] <joey_> log in
[04:21] <holstein> joey_: ok, friend. in order to change the behavior, you'll need to remove some config files
[04:21] <holstein> joey_: did you remove or rename the ones i suggested?
[04:21] <joey_> yes
[04:22] <joey_> I moved them in a bak folder
[04:22] <joey_> I think I just found something
[04:22] <joey_> to fix it
[04:23] <holstein> joey_: what would i do? i would make another user.. boot in. if i see no messages.. i would go back to my user and move *all* the .config or .hidden config files.. i would test.. if no messages, i would put back the few config files that im interested in keeping..
[04:23] <joey_> I am scared
[04:24] <joey_> http://www.techdrivein.com/2012/08/how-to-disable-system-program-problem.html
[04:25] <holstein> joey_: thats to disable the messaging system
[04:25] <holstein> joey_: i suggest you address the errors as listed above.. do what you like
[04:25] <joey_> yeah
[04:26] <holstein> joey_: feel free and ask in #ubuntu since this is not ubuntustudio related
[04:26] <joey_> i get your idea
[04:32] <joey_> They were old crashed
[04:32] <joey_> crashes*
[04:32] <joey_> I fixed it
[04:32] <joey_> With this http://askubuntu.com/questions/133385/getting-system-program-problem-detected-pops-up-regularly-after-upgrade
[04:32] <joey_> I'm keeping that one as a favorite
[04:32] <joey_> :D
[04:33] <joey_> Thanks anyway !
[04:33] <joey_> " sudo rm /var/crash/* " fixed it
[04:37] <Unit193> Wonder if he knows the dumps show up in .cache/upstart/ too. :D
[04:38] <holstein> well, i have a feeling joey will be back
[17:25] <koki26> hola
[17:25] <holstein> o/
[17:25] <koki26> español?
[17:25] <holstein> !es
[18:28] <linguitarist> need help troubleshooting - D-Bus: Jack server could not be started
[18:28] <linguitarist> Sys details
[18:29] <linguitarist> Ubuntu 14.04, with ubuntu-studio packages installed, low latency kernel
[18:29] <linguitarist> already added my user to the 'audio' group
[18:30] <linguitarist> before I ran the low latency kernel, I could start jack but without real-time scheduling
[18:30] <linguitarist> goal:  run ardour3 on my dell xps 13 multicore ultrabook
[18:30] <linguitarist> suggestions?
[18:50] <linguitarist> also, it looks like pulseaudio is off.  is that the default with ubuntu studio or with the -lowlatency kernel?
[19:04] <holstein> linguitarist: without realtime scheduling?
[19:05] <holstein> linguitarist: all that should "just happen" now.. you shouldnt need to do anything to configure "realtime scheduling"
[19:05] <holstein> linguitarist: i would relax the jack settings, and undo whatever you did that seems to have broken it from starting..
[19:05] <holstein> you can use "gksudo qjackctl" to *temporarily* run as root to troubleshoot any permissions issues
[19:06] <holstein> linguitarist: you can run ardour3 with the generic kernel
[19:06] <holstein> linguitarist: my suggestion is.. if you have an internal audio device, forget about the term "lowlatency" and "realtime"
[19:06] <holstein> linguitarist: just use jack, with normal high latency..
[19:07] <holstein> you dont need lowlatency to use ardour,a nd to record and overdub
[19:07] <holstein> there are only 2 cases where you require lowlatency, and those are, realtime audio effects.. like wanting to playing a guitar and add software effects while playing the instrument live
[19:07] <holstein> the other is live software synths.. playing a midi keyboard as a live instrument live in realtime..
[19:08] <holstein> you will not be able to achieve latency settings to facilitate this likely with *any* internal, onboard, built-in audio device
[19:08] <holstein> but, thats ok, since you are likely not doing either of those things and just read the term "realtime" somewhere, and assumed it was necessary, and its not
[20:08] <linguitarist> ok, i found a mirrored version of the jackaudio.org site (currently down) and am getting informed on real time scheduling
[20:09] <linguitarist> understand now that I don't need the special kernel
[20:09] <linguitarist> thx
[20:10] <linguitarist> https://web.archive.org/web/20140330103313/http://jackaudio.org/linux_rt_config
[20:10] <linguitarist> fyi
[20:18] <linguitarist> i fixed it all by killing jackdbus from the commandline
[20:21] <linguitarist> now i can run pulse and jack again, but still can't get jack to run with real-time scheduling.  The RT light is flashing in my qjackctl display.
[20:21] <linguitarist> I assume this means I need to try different jack latency parameters .. is that right?
[20:23] <linguitarist> or it might be a permissions issue, because I'm using plain ubuntu, with the the ubuntu-studio packages added later
[20:23] <linguitarist> I don't see a group for 'audio' or 'realtime' in /etc/security/limits.conf
[21:09] <OvenWerks> linguitarist: look in limits.d
[21:12] <OvenWerks> the file will have the word dissabled appended to it for no rt. rename to fix
[21:13] <OvenWerks> also need your user to have audio group
[21:14] <OvenWerks> the linux_lowlatency kernel is much easier to tune with.
[21:29] <linguitarist> my user had the audio group, but the audio group doesn't seem to the right security limits
[21:30] <linguitarist> I reconfigured it, now have to logout.  bye