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xubuntu635Hi, I've installed 14.04 and think its great but having one piece of trouble, my computer has lost the ability to suspend.  Any fixes?00:58
xubuntu635My system is a dual core E5800 intel processor with 3 gigs of memory and an Nvidia graphics card.00:59
GridCubexubuntu635, see Bug #1303736 , there is a fix released but it has not landed yet01:04
ubottubug 1303736 in xfce4-power-manager "[SRU] Black screen after wakeup from suspending by closing the laptop lid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130373601:04
xubuntu635That doesn't describe my problem, mine is when I press suspend it blanks the screen but the power light stays on and the machine won't wake up and must be rebooted.01:09
m1dnight_xubuntu635: Have you checked your bios settings yet?01:17
m1dnight_Some machines can limit the suspend states a machine can be in01:17
xubuntu635What bios settings are you refering to?  Also the machine would suspend until this latest version.01:39
m1dnight_oh okay01:54
m1dnight_then it should be okay01:54
m1dnight_I was referring to this:01:54
m1dnight_http://gsmblog.com/post/Difference-between-S1-(POS)-and-S3-(STR)-standby-mode-in-BIOS.aspx01:54
priuonHello. I am on an ASUS lower pricerange Notebook. The included Touchpad wasn't found by xubuntu 12.04.04 upon installation. I could not find much on the Topic Online. Can someone in here help me on the issue? this is what xinput shows: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7656074/, lspci and lsusb don't seem to show any other pointing device either02:08
priuonIf there is a better channel to ask this question please point out where to go. Of all possibilities I ask here because I can't tell where the problem lies.02:13
xubuntu956I'm back, I've checked my bios and don't seem to have a suspend setting there as described as S3.  This is in relation to a suspend and not waking up, need to reboot problem.02:15
priuonThe touchpad was somewhat available on a previous MS Windows installation. But it was not quite apparent what the device drivers are (the support page offered more then one driver, including alpos and synaptics as far as i rmember) So I never identified it. It also never worked flawlessly, as it is expected of general hardware.02:17
priuons/general hardware/hardware in general/G02:18
priuonin short: anyways my installation does not show/find the integrated touchpad that is built into my notebook. If possible I would like to have it useable.02:36
priuonif anyone can give me an answer please PM it. I'll be sleeping for awhile. cya02:42
xubuntu943Привет! Помогите пожалуйста, второй день мучаюсь с простым вопросом, как записать загрузочный iso на флэшку? пробовал и unibootin и через консоль, но с флэшки не загужается...если через unibootin то просто идет отчет от 10 сек, потом опять 10 сек, и та в07:07
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xubuntu943sorry...thx!!!!! =))07:10
elfywelcome :)07:10
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priuonwhat pack gives me the 'find process of window' gui-tool in xfce?10:00
BBLLCChi10:28
BBLLCCi need to install the right drivers for en epson stylus dx 4850. I have foomatic installed, but I dont know what to do. Xubuntu 14.04 64 bits, tips please10:29
BBLLCC"there is a missing print filter"10:35
svetai find it weird that adwaita depends on gnome packages on xubuntu, it is a standalone style thing i thought11:16
damiHelp i just install xubuntu 14.04 and the installed a few programs then last night i installed docky and added a splash screen..and now whenever i log into my main account it only show icons i cant even open any programs by the right click menu11:40
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mmazingi want to have window buttons in my window button panel hide the window text if the window is minimized, anyone know how this might be accomplished? xfce4 on xubuntu 14.0413:31
mmazing(and hopefully reduce the window button width to the width of the icon)13:32
ochosiyou can only always hide the window titles, not based on whether they're minimized or not13:34
ochosiwhat you suggest would also result in a lot of items jumping around13:34
mmazingochosi: yeah, i know it will make things jump around, i would actually prefer the minimized icons to be on the left13:36
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mmazingochosi: and i've done "no window titles" but i do like having window titles, just would like some further distinction between minimized windows and visible13:36
ochosieither way, the answer is it's not possible13:38
mmazingi figured :)13:39
mmazinghow do i get the source for the window button panel?13:40
mmazing(curiosity at this point)13:40
xubuntu535Hi everybody13:44
xubuntu535I've got a question: can I configure the way the new users are generated in xubuntu? Like shortcuts in the desktop, java configurations, the way the bars display, wallpapers, etc.13:46
mmazingxubuntu535: how are the users being created? could you call a user creation script instead of just useradd, etc?13:48
xubuntu535When I log with a domain user, I get a new desktop generated13:48
xubuntu535For that domain user, and I have to configure everything from the start13:49
xubuntu535I want to know if I can set the new generated desktop to a fixed one13:50
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mmazingxubuntu535: im not sure how that works exactly, but i would just start digging into how the users are created exactly (with samba I assume), and try and wedge a script in there somewhere that creates the stuff you want13:58
xubuntu535Ok. Thanks. Do you know where can I start reading? Any link or suggestion about search?13:59
BBLLCChi14:00
malohhreeHello, I need help. Is this where I can find it?14:00
BBLLCC i need to install the right drivers for en epson stylus dx 4850. I have foomatic installed, but I dont know what to do. Xubuntu 14.04 64 bits, tips please. "there is a missing print filter for printer Stylus-DX4800" is what i get when I log in14:00
mmazingxubuntu535: sorry, not entirely sure where to start without having the computer in front of me to just mess with a bit14:01
xubuntu535Ok, thank you very much. Salu2.14:01
malohhreeI am new to Linux, Bash, and Ubuntu. I have Xubuntu on my computer and cannot figure out how to connect to wifi. The NetworkManager (The two gray arrows) have disappeared and I cannot figure this out. Help! :(14:01
mmazingxubuntu535: sorry i wasn't more helpful!14:01
mmazingmalohhree: try "sudo service networking restart" without quotes14:02
xubuntu535@malohhree: I think the app is xfce4-indicator-plugin to see the arrows14:03
mmazingBBLLCC: have you tried downloading the PPD files for the printer and installing them manually?14:03
malohhreeIt said STOP: Job failed while stopping. START: Job is already running: Networking.14:03
mmazingBBLLCC: as in, through the regular print dialog?14:03
BBLLCCmmazing, if I try that, will you guide me thrlough? I have no idea about that14:04
mmazingmalohhree: have you tried rebooting? i've had problems recently where my computer gets halfway stuck trying to go to sleep and my network manager fails14:04
BBLLCCmmazing, I downloaded the only linux drivers for that particular printer I could find14:04
malohhreeLet me try that. Hang on.14:04
mmazingi'm sure there's another way to do it without rebooting but i don't know what that is :)14:05
malohhreeI'm SOOOO new at this. My boyfriend is very good at it. He owns his own business/website. I am learning, but I don't wanna ask him a thousand questions lol. So, while I'm rebooting, how are you guys today? :)14:05
mmazingBBLLCC: you basically go to the printers area in the settings window, click add and find the printer either over the network or locally attached14:06
mmazingand there should be a place to give it the PPD drivers through the process14:06
mmazingmalohhree: i'm at work :) which i must get back to soon14:07
malohhreeRebooting didn't work. :( I'm at work, too! lol14:07
mmazingmalohhree: and everyone was new at some point too! just keep hammering away and you get better14:08
malohhreeIt's like the Network Manager (the two little arrows) has completely disappeared.14:08
mmazinghmm, does it have a connection to the internet?14:08
mmazingit might just be missing from the panel14:08
malohhreeIt doesn't. This is the first time I'm bringing it to work since I installed Xubuntu, so I was going to connect it to the wi-fi here.14:09
malohhreeIt is missing from the panel, but I can't find it anywhere. :(14:09
mmazingdang, well I have to get back to work :( hopefully someone else can help14:10
malohhreeThanks! :)14:10
mmazingsure, good luck14:10
BBLLCCmmazing, printer settings, localhost, printers show a red exclamation next to the icon14:11
BBLLCCproperties, printer state: Stopped - Backend /usr/lib/cups/backend/usb does not exist!14:12
BBLLCCbut the printer is connected and on14:12
BBLLCCthe printer can scan thoug, xsane recognizes it14:16
BBLLCCany tips about how to find out if this printer scans in color? https://www.openprinting.org/printer/Epson/Epson-Stylus_DX480014:29
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GridCubeit would have to be a very particular scanner to not scan in colors14:31
holsteinBBLLCC: you can ask the vendor about the hardware14:34
BBLLCCholstein, printer found in the basement14:35
holsteinBBLLCC: @ http://esupport.epson-europe.com/ProductHome.aspx?lng=en-GB&data=vRaxNXeC8ziwyRAc36Fnlteew3ygivV1VHrAHpr+QeAU003D&tc=6 "you can scan images in color, grayscale, or black and white"14:35
knomeBBLLCC, ask the basement manager :P14:37
BBLLCChe has no idea14:37
holsteinBBLLCC: regardless of where you found it, the creator of the hardware can definitively state its functions14:37
malohhreeI need help. I am new at all of this and I have Xubuntu installed on my laptop and I cannot find the network manager. Any help?14:37
holsteinmalohhree: should be in "the tray" down by the time.. hover over those items and see if you see it..14:38
malohhreeI have tried 'sudo nm-applet' and it makes the icon appear and will let you select a network, but ultimately fails because it never gives you the option to put in the password.14:38
holsteinmalohhree: you dont need sudo nm-applet14:38
malohhreeIt's disappeared from the tray.14:38
holsteinmalohhree: you can just run "nm-applet" if for some reason its not there14:38
BBLLCCufff14:39
BBLLCCinvoke-rc.d: initscript courier-imap-ssl, action "start" failed.14:39
BBLLCCdpkg: error processing package courier-imap-ssl (--configure):14:39
BBLLCC subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 214:39
BBLLCCErrors were encountered while processing:14:39
BBLLCC courier-imap-ssl14:39
holstein!paste | BBLLCC14:39
ubottuBBLLCC: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.14:39
BBLLCCcan youhelp me out?14:39
BBLLCCand noticed14:39
holsteinBBLLCC: ask a question, and maybe a volunteer can assist14:39
BBLLCCwhat is that error exit status 2 and how do I get rid of it?14:40
holsteinBBLLCC: is it an error? or just a message? are you trying to scan? can you scan?14:40
malohhreeYes, I did run 'nm-applet' and it gives me a list of networks, but when I choose one, it never gives me the opportunity to enter the password, so the connection ultimately fails.14:41
holsteinBBLLCC: keep in mind, epson has not promised you linux support.. so, you may have a bit of a compromised work-flow as linux tries to do its best to supply you with support for the unsupported hardware14:41
knomeholstein, fwiw, courier-imap-ssl has nothing to do with scanning..14:41
holsteinmalohhree: i would remove the networks from the list.. could be you have put in a password that is incorrect.. clearing out the list would likely get you back to the point where you can enter the password aain14:42
holsteinagain*14:42
malohhreeTried that, too. Got the same result. Loads forever, never asks for a password, then fails.14:44
BBLLCCholstein, i can scan, only in grey, but that may be driver related. "I have held broken packages", how do I get rid of them?14:45
holsteinmalohhree: so, what is the problem? i would try an open access point. i would try as a different user.. i would try with a live CD or a supported operating system to make sure the hardware is functioning14:45
malohhreeIt was working last night. I will try rebooting again and creating another user.14:45
holsteinBBLLCC: you can also use a live CD.. you can test with a live CD and see how the device works with a system that is not broken14:45
holsteinBBLLCC: when i see that message, i usually start by looking at 3rd party unsupported sources.. ppa's and go from there14:46
BBLLCCholstein, aint there a command to localize broken packages?14:46
holsteinBBLLCC: there are systems in place to prevent broken packages.. but, it really depends on what is actually wrong14:47
holsteinBBLLCC: i have no "magic" command that can just address everything.. you can start with a terminal and run "sudo apt-get update" and share output via !paste14:47
BBLLCCwelll if it says "errors encountered while processing courier-imap-ssl i should get rid of that, right?14:49
holsteinBBLLCC: when you open a terminal, and run "sudo apt-get update" you can share the output at..14:49
holstein!paste > BBLLCC14:50
ubottuBBLLCC, please see my private message14:50
BBLLCCi can read private messages, ill have to look for that option in xchat14:51
holsteinBBLLCC: its not in xchat, or any client14:51
BBLLCCsorry, i mean I cannot read, i dont receive private messages14:52
holsteinBBLLCC: its a way you can share multiple and large text output.. at the "site" here.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/14:52
holstein!paste | BBLLCC14:52
ubottuBBLLCC: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.14:52
malohhreeCreating a new user profile worked! I'm connected! So does that mean I messed something up on my other profile?14:55
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BBLLCCholstein, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7658815/14:58
holsteinBBLLCC: i would address any/all source failures there.. likely, the other issues you have will be taken care of then14:59
BBLLCCthere goes my afternoon15:00
BBLLCCwe are talking lines 174 to 190, plus the end, right?15:02
holsteinBBLLCC: anything that is giving error there.. .any source that is failing15:03
BBLLCCholstein, i have no idea about what to do regarding lines 174 to 18915:14
holsteinBBLLCC: what i do is, if they are 3rd party, unsupported ppa's, i purge them..15:14
holstein!info ppa-purge15:14
ubottuppa-purge (source: ppa-purge): disables a PPA and reverts to official packages. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.8+bzr57 (trusty), package size 5 kB, installed size 44 kB15:14
BBLLCCthe other errors have been solved15:14
BBLLCCbut those lines dont state the name of the application, just "trusty main sources"15:15
holsteinif they are mirrors that are supported, i either check them and wait on them, or move to other mirrors.. i make sure "sudo apt-get update" can finish with no errors15:15
holsteinBBLLCC: these are sources, not applications15:15
holsteinBBLLCC: i know not of "other errors".. i just konw that i want "sudo apt-get update" to finish with no errors15:15
BBLLCCso its the internet connection or the server that is down...15:16
holsteinBBLLCC: it could be one of those issues, yes.. but, it could also be the 3rd party sources are no longer supported by the 3rd party15:16
holsteinBBLLCC: could be your internet.. could be the source mirrors..15:16
BBLLCCholstein, what I have never understood is, when I install a ppa, do I have to install both the main and the source ppa lines?15:30
geniiThe source line isn't usually needed unless you want to recompile the package yourself for some reason15:31
BBLLCCso, no more errors...15:44
BBLLCCback to the printer drivers15:44
holstein!ppa | BBLLCC15:46
ubottuBBLLCC: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge15:46
BBLLCCnot really, i still get> E: courier-imap-ssl: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2, but apparently I need that packages for internet...15:50
holsteinBBLLCC: does "sudo apt-get update" finish without error?15:52
BBLLCCyes, I got that from synaptic15:52
BBLLCCcommand line shows no error15:52
holsteinBBLLCC: please open a terminal, and run "sudo apt-get update" and you can share the output in a pastebin15:53
holsteinBBLLCC: if you are completing without error, you can try "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and also share errors..15:54
BBLLCChttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7659093/15:55
holsteinBBLLCC: ok.. so, as stated above, since there are no errors, how about running "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and share output in paste?15:56
BBLLCCi already have 14.0415:56
holsteinBBLLCC: ok15:56
BBLLCCmy problem is now only the printer drivers15:57
holsteinBBLLCC: that command is *not* trying to upgrade the distribution. you are free to look up what it does.. otherwise, *please* open a terminal, and run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and share errors15:57
holsteinBBLLCC: your problem is broken packages.. and i am helping you address that..15:57
BBLLCChttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7659110/15:58
BBLLCCim gonna autoremove...15:59
holsteinBBLLCC: i wouldnt..16:02
holsteinBBLLCC: but, likely that wont hurt anything..16:03
BBLLCCdo you see any packages that is needed for the system to work?16:03
holsteinBBLLCC: i do not know your system, friend16:05
holsteinBBLLCC: i like to keep older known good kernels around..16:05
holsteinBBLLCC: whats the benefit of removing those? hard drive space? im not interested in clearing that out..16:05
holsteinif you are, go for it.. its not going to "fix" your held broken packages..16:06
guygHi.  Since installing the proprietary nvidia drivers, DBUS doesn't seem to work.  I get "Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-ou6Johku99: Connection refused" for several applications.  dbus-daemon is running, but the temporary directory it refers to doesn't exist.16:22
halfbeingi've set chromium as my preferred browser in the system settings, but many applications still open firefox. how can i force them to call chromium instead?16:51
malohhreehttp://askubuntu.com/q/484596/29436316:51
malohhreeHelp me. :(16:53
malohhreehttp://askubuntu.com/q/484596/29436316:53
holsteinmalohhree: you said another user worked fine? corrrect?16:53
malohhreeYea, but I can't fix my main account. I've been trying and trying. And I don't know anything about Bash. :/16:54
holsteinmalohhree: thats fine.. you need not bash16:54
holsteinmalohhree: what would i do? you can always literally move the *entire* users /home.. or just the .hidden files out of the way. move/copy to a usb stick or whatever so you have them saved..16:54
holsteinthen, you can reboot, test the system with the user account, and put back what configs you want.. likely just the ones for the web browser and the data16:55
malohhreeSo basically just move everything I have to the new user account?16:56
holsteinmalohhree: no16:58
holsteinmalohhree: but, you can do that as well16:58
holsteinmalohhree: what im saying is, remove the .hidden config files in the user that is "broken"16:58
malohhreeHmmmm,..okay17:00
malohhreeIdk how to do that.17:00
holsteinmalohhree: you can use a file manager and remove them17:00
holsteinmalohhree: the easy way? from a live CD.. but, you can use the new user if you want.. you'll show hidden files with the filemanager pressing control h17:01
malohhreeokay im going to try that. Thanks!17:01
nikolamwow, thunar went crazy on me, using 1.2G of RAM reserved, while trying to copy some video files from SD reader17:05
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snuggyfooI recently did update & upgrade and now have two bluetooth indicators in the indicator plugin. Has anyone else experienced this?18:35
snuggyfooI can't figure out how to remove it either18:35
baizon_snuggyfoo: have you tried clean .cache?18:35
snuggyfooI haven't, but wouldn't a reboot have done that anyway18:36
snuggyfoobaizon_ I figured it out. Forgot to kill / restart the panel after hiding 'bluetooth' in the indicator plugin settings18:39
snuggyfooI still have no idea why there are two, but at least it's back to the way it was18:40
snuggyfooohhhhh, one is "blueman applet" and the other is part of the indicator plugin.18:40
MisterAcaciaDoes anyone know if Ctrl-Alt-Shift-= is used? I'm trying to use it in a program but the program doesn't react. I don't see it in keyboard shortcuts, any tips on where else to look?19:24
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xubuntu835sa20:11
xubuntu835hello20:11
ranuhello ^^20:14
meek_geekhow r u20:30
jesse__tumblerd is keeping me from deleting a file. Is there a way to release its hold on the file, or gracefully restart it? It doesn't have a man page. Google-fu is failing me.20:44
jesse__I have a file on an external name .fuse_hidden with a string of numbers. I couldn't remove it - it would pop back.20:48
jesse__Googling I used lsof to see that tumblerd was using it20:49
jesse__I stopped tumblerd (it was using 25% CPU as well)20:49
jesse__killall -9 tumblerd is now returning no process. lsof .fuse... is showing nothing. still can't delete file.20:50
freshminthey i upgrade from ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04, my main desktop environment was ubuntu though i installed xubuntu for trial parallel. Now after updating from 12.04 to 14.04 only the xubuntu desktop environment is available. How can i manually reinstall the unity ubuntu desktop so that I may choose both on log in?20:52
jesse__sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop  <--don't necessarily listen to me20:56
jesse__your other problem could be with the login screen not showing it for some reason20:56
crimsonduskmight need to reconfigure some package20:57
jesse__I've heard bad things about installing xfce and unity together, though.20:57
crimsonduskno clue what package's configuration is responsible for adjusting the display manager though20:57
freshmintjesse__, i will give it a shot20:57
freshmintthx20:58
freshmintseems that it hasnt been installed cause apt-get fetches some stuff20:58
freshminti will try loggin in and out20:59
jesse__freshmint, settings > session and startup > general: try checking the box under "session chooser" [] display chooser on login20:59
jesse__maybe also deselect [] automatically save session on logout20:59
jesse__maybe, it could cause problems trying to run pieces of one in the other21:00
freshmintjesse__, hmm now its there but some stuff looks messed up....21:00
freshminticons and stuff looks shitty but i can manage21:00
jesse__yeah it probably will. You will likely need to do some configuring. I've read that they both don't work well out of the box when both WMs are installed. Might search for a guide21:01
freshminti will do a reboot first and get back to you. thanks anyway21:01
jesse__np21:02
jesse__so my lsof .fuse_hidden### returns nothing, but $sudo lsof .fuse_hidden### returns: can't stat() fuse.gvfsd-fuse21:03
jesse__there is a gvfsd-fuse process running. I've only been able to find that it deals with mounting (makes sense as this is ext hdd)21:04
jesse__I've kind of hit my limits here. not sure if anyone has advice.21:04
jesse__weird. tumblerd must have restarted on its own. killed it again and was able to remove. strange that it wasn't showing in lsof.21:08
freshmintjesse__, okay im back to my old kind of look and feel so im happy ;) thanks some stuff crashes on startup but lets see if i get it fixed or i just ignore it21:11
jesse__cool. good luck!21:13
freshmintprobably still some crappy old applications creating trouble on startup prorgamms and stuff like that21:13
skribblezatchafreshmint: what DE did you start with if you dont mind me asking?21:31
Viking667'llo all. I've got a strange question. I can't figure out how to switch sound outputs.22:10
Viking667I've got two sound outputs, and pulseaudio seems to be choosing the on-board sound as opposed to the USB headset. I can't see where to change it.22:11

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