[00:58] <xubuntu635> Hi, I've installed 14.04 and think its great but having one piece of trouble, my computer has lost the ability to suspend.  Any fixes?
[00:59] <xubuntu635> My system is a dual core E5800 intel processor with 3 gigs of memory and an Nvidia graphics card.
[01:04] <GridCube> xubuntu635, see Bug #1303736 , there is a fix released but it has not landed yet
[01:09] <xubuntu635> That doesn't describe my problem, mine is when I press suspend it blanks the screen but the power light stays on and the machine won't wake up and must be rebooted.
[01:17] <m1dnight_> xubuntu635: Have you checked your bios settings yet?
[01:17] <m1dnight_> Some machines can limit the suspend states a machine can be in
[01:39] <xubuntu635> What bios settings are you refering to?  Also the machine would suspend until this latest version.
[01:54] <m1dnight_> oh okay
[01:54] <m1dnight_> then it should be okay
[01:54] <m1dnight_> I was referring to this:
[01:54] <m1dnight_> http://gsmblog.com/post/Difference-between-S1-(POS)-and-S3-(STR)-standby-mode-in-BIOS.aspx
[02:08] <priuon> Hello. I am on an ASUS lower pricerange Notebook. The included Touchpad wasn't found by xubuntu 12.04.04 upon installation. I could not find much on the Topic Online. Can someone in here help me on the issue? this is what xinput shows: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7656074/, lspci and lsusb don't seem to show any other pointing device either
[02:13] <priuon> If there is a better channel to ask this question please point out where to go. Of all possibilities I ask here because I can't tell where the problem lies.
[02:15] <xubuntu956> I'm back, I've checked my bios and don't seem to have a suspend setting there as described as S3.  This is in relation to a suspend and not waking up, need to reboot problem.
[02:17] <priuon> The touchpad was somewhat available on a previous MS Windows installation. But it was not quite apparent what the device drivers are (the support page offered more then one driver, including alpos and synaptics as far as i rmember) So I never identified it. It also never worked flawlessly, as it is expected of general hardware.
[02:18] <priuon> s/general hardware/hardware in general/G
[02:36] <priuon> in short: anyways my installation does not show/find the integrated touchpad that is built into my notebook. If possible I would like to have it useable.
[02:42] <priuon> if anyone can give me an answer please PM it. I'll be sleeping for awhile. cya
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[07:08] <elfy> !ru | xubuntu943
[07:10] <xubuntu943> sorry...thx!!!!! =))
[07:10] <elfy> welcome :)
[10:00] <priuon> what pack gives me the 'find process of window' gui-tool in xfce?
[10:28] <BBLLCC> hi
[10:29] <BBLLCC> i need to install the right drivers for en epson stylus dx 4850. I have foomatic installed, but I dont know what to do. Xubuntu 14.04 64 bits, tips please
[10:35] <BBLLCC> "there is a missing print filter"
[11:16] <sveta> i find it weird that adwaita depends on gnome packages on xubuntu, it is a standalone style thing i thought
[11:40] <dami> Help i just install xubuntu 14.04 and the installed a few programs then last night i installed docky and added a splash screen..and now whenever i log into my main account it only show icons i cant even open any programs by the right click menu
[13:31] <mmazing> i want to have window buttons in my window button panel hide the window text if the window is minimized, anyone know how this might be accomplished? xfce4 on xubuntu 14.04
[13:32] <mmazing> (and hopefully reduce the window button width to the width of the icon)
[13:34] <ochosi> you can only always hide the window titles, not based on whether they're minimized or not
[13:34] <ochosi> what you suggest would also result in a lot of items jumping around
[13:36] <mmazing> ochosi: yeah, i know it will make things jump around, i would actually prefer the minimized icons to be on the left
[13:36] <mmazing> ochosi: and i've done "no window titles" but i do like having window titles, just would like some further distinction between minimized windows and visible
[13:38] <ochosi> either way, the answer is it's not possible
[13:39] <mmazing> i figured :)
[13:40] <mmazing> how do i get the source for the window button panel?
[13:40] <mmazing> (curiosity at this point)
[13:44] <xubuntu535> Hi everybody
[13:46] <xubuntu535> I've got a question: can I configure the way the new users are generated in xubuntu? Like shortcuts in the desktop, java configurations, the way the bars display, wallpapers, etc.
[13:48] <mmazing> xubuntu535: how are the users being created? could you call a user creation script instead of just useradd, etc?
[13:48] <xubuntu535> When I log with a domain user, I get a new desktop generated
[13:49] <xubuntu535> For that domain user, and I have to configure everything from the start
[13:50] <xubuntu535> I want to know if I can set the new generated desktop to a fixed one
[13:58] <mmazing> xubuntu535: im not sure how that works exactly, but i would just start digging into how the users are created exactly (with samba I assume), and try and wedge a script in there somewhere that creates the stuff you want
[13:59] <xubuntu535> Ok. Thanks. Do you know where can I start reading? Any link or suggestion about search?
[14:00] <BBLLCC> hi
[14:00] <malohhree> Hello, I need help. Is this where I can find it?
[14:00] <BBLLCC>  i need to install the right drivers for en epson stylus dx 4850. I have foomatic installed, but I dont know what to do. Xubuntu 14.04 64 bits, tips please. "there is a missing print filter for printer Stylus-DX4800" is what i get when I log in
[14:01] <mmazing> xubuntu535: sorry, not entirely sure where to start without having the computer in front of me to just mess with a bit
[14:01] <xubuntu535> Ok, thank you very much. Salu2.
[14:01] <malohhree> I am new to Linux, Bash, and Ubuntu. I have Xubuntu on my computer and cannot figure out how to connect to wifi. The NetworkManager (The two gray arrows) have disappeared and I cannot figure this out. Help! :(
[14:01] <mmazing> xubuntu535: sorry i wasn't more helpful!
[14:02] <mmazing> malohhree: try "sudo service networking restart" without quotes
[14:03] <xubuntu535> @malohhree: I think the app is xfce4-indicator-plugin to see the arrows
[14:03] <mmazing> BBLLCC: have you tried downloading the PPD files for the printer and installing them manually?
[14:03] <malohhree> It said STOP: Job failed while stopping. START: Job is already running: Networking.
[14:03] <mmazing> BBLLCC: as in, through the regular print dialog?
[14:04] <BBLLCC> mmazing, if I try that, will you guide me thrlough? I have no idea about that
[14:04] <mmazing> malohhree: have you tried rebooting? i've had problems recently where my computer gets halfway stuck trying to go to sleep and my network manager fails
[14:04] <BBLLCC> mmazing, I downloaded the only linux drivers for that particular printer I could find
[14:04] <malohhree> Let me try that. Hang on.
[14:05] <mmazing> i'm sure there's another way to do it without rebooting but i don't know what that is :)
[14:05] <malohhree> I'm SOOOO new at this. My boyfriend is very good at it. He owns his own business/website. I am learning, but I don't wanna ask him a thousand questions lol. So, while I'm rebooting, how are you guys today? :)
[14:06] <mmazing> BBLLCC: you basically go to the printers area in the settings window, click add and find the printer either over the network or locally attached
[14:06] <mmazing> and there should be a place to give it the PPD drivers through the process
[14:07] <mmazing> malohhree: i'm at work :) which i must get back to soon
[14:07] <malohhree> Rebooting didn't work. :( I'm at work, too! lol
[14:08] <mmazing> malohhree: and everyone was new at some point too! just keep hammering away and you get better
[14:08] <malohhree> It's like the Network Manager (the two little arrows) has completely disappeared.
[14:08] <mmazing> hmm, does it have a connection to the internet?
[14:08] <mmazing> it might just be missing from the panel
[14:09] <malohhree> It doesn't. This is the first time I'm bringing it to work since I installed Xubuntu, so I was going to connect it to the wi-fi here.
[14:09] <malohhree> It is missing from the panel, but I can't find it anywhere. :(
[14:10] <mmazing> dang, well I have to get back to work :( hopefully someone else can help
[14:10] <malohhree> Thanks! :)
[14:10] <mmazing> sure, good luck
[14:11] <BBLLCC> mmazing, printer settings, localhost, printers show a red exclamation next to the icon
[14:12] <BBLLCC> properties, printer state: Stopped - Backend /usr/lib/cups/backend/usb does not exist!
[14:12] <BBLLCC> but the printer is connected and on
[14:16] <BBLLCC> the printer can scan thoug, xsane recognizes it
[14:29] <BBLLCC> any tips about how to find out if this printer scans in color? https://www.openprinting.org/printer/Epson/Epson-Stylus_DX4800
[14:31] <GridCube> it would have to be a very particular scanner to not scan in colors
[14:34] <holstein> BBLLCC: you can ask the vendor about the hardware
[14:35] <BBLLCC> holstein, printer found in the basement
[14:35] <holstein> BBLLCC: @ http://esupport.epson-europe.com/ProductHome.aspx?lng=en-GB&data=vRaxNXeC8ziwyRAc36Fnlteew3ygivV1VHrAHpr+QeAU003D&tc=6 "you can scan images in color, grayscale, or black and white"
[14:37] <knome> BBLLCC, ask the basement manager :P
[14:37] <BBLLCC> he has no idea
[14:37] <holstein> BBLLCC: regardless of where you found it, the creator of the hardware can definitively state its functions
[14:37] <malohhree> I need help. I am new at all of this and I have Xubuntu installed on my laptop and I cannot find the network manager. Any help?
[14:38] <holstein> malohhree: should be in "the tray" down by the time.. hover over those items and see if you see it..
[14:38] <malohhree> I have tried 'sudo nm-applet' and it makes the icon appear and will let you select a network, but ultimately fails because it never gives you the option to put in the password.
[14:38] <holstein> malohhree: you dont need sudo nm-applet
[14:38] <malohhree> It's disappeared from the tray.
[14:38] <holstein> malohhree: you can just run "nm-applet" if for some reason its not there
[14:39] <BBLLCC> ufff
[14:39] <BBLLCC> invoke-rc.d: initscript courier-imap-ssl, action "start" failed.
[14:39] <BBLLCC> dpkg: error processing package courier-imap-ssl (--configure):
[14:39] <BBLLCC>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[14:39] <BBLLCC> Errors were encountered while processing:
[14:39] <BBLLCC>  courier-imap-ssl
[14:39] <holstein> !paste | BBLLCC
[14:39] <BBLLCC> can youhelp me out?
[14:39] <BBLLCC> and noticed
[14:39] <holstein> BBLLCC: ask a question, and maybe a volunteer can assist
[14:40] <BBLLCC> what is that error exit status 2 and how do I get rid of it?
[14:40] <holstein> BBLLCC: is it an error? or just a message? are you trying to scan? can you scan?
[14:41] <malohhree> Yes, I did run 'nm-applet' and it gives me a list of networks, but when I choose one, it never gives me the opportunity to enter the password, so the connection ultimately fails.
[14:41] <holstein> BBLLCC: keep in mind, epson has not promised you linux support.. so, you may have a bit of a compromised work-flow as linux tries to do its best to supply you with support for the unsupported hardware
[14:41] <knome> holstein, fwiw, courier-imap-ssl has nothing to do with scanning..
[14:42] <holstein> malohhree: i would remove the networks from the list.. could be you have put in a password that is incorrect.. clearing out the list would likely get you back to the point where you can enter the password aain
[14:42] <holstein> again*
[14:44] <malohhree> Tried that, too. Got the same result. Loads forever, never asks for a password, then fails.
[14:45] <BBLLCC> holstein, i can scan, only in grey, but that may be driver related. "I have held broken packages", how do I get rid of them?
[14:45] <holstein> malohhree: so, what is the problem? i would try an open access point. i would try as a different user.. i would try with a live CD or a supported operating system to make sure the hardware is functioning
[14:45] <malohhree> It was working last night. I will try rebooting again and creating another user.
[14:45] <holstein> BBLLCC: you can also use a live CD.. you can test with a live CD and see how the device works with a system that is not broken
[14:46] <holstein> BBLLCC: when i see that message, i usually start by looking at 3rd party unsupported sources.. ppa's and go from there
[14:46] <BBLLCC> holstein, aint there a command to localize broken packages?
[14:47] <holstein> BBLLCC: there are systems in place to prevent broken packages.. but, it really depends on what is actually wrong
[14:47] <holstein> BBLLCC: i have no "magic" command that can just address everything.. you can start with a terminal and run "sudo apt-get update" and share output via !paste
[14:49] <BBLLCC> welll if it says "errors encountered while processing courier-imap-ssl i should get rid of that, right?
[14:49] <holstein> BBLLCC: when you open a terminal, and run "sudo apt-get update" you can share the output at..
[14:50] <holstein> !paste > BBLLCC
[14:51] <BBLLCC> i can read private messages, ill have to look for that option in xchat
[14:51] <holstein> BBLLCC: its not in xchat, or any client
[14:52] <BBLLCC> sorry, i mean I cannot read, i dont receive private messages
[14:52] <holstein> BBLLCC: its a way you can share multiple and large text output.. at the "site" here.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[14:52] <holstein> !paste | BBLLCC
[14:55] <malohhree> Creating a new user profile worked! I'm connected! So does that mean I messed something up on my other profile?
[14:58] <BBLLCC> holstein, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7658815/
[14:59] <holstein> BBLLCC: i would address any/all source failures there.. likely, the other issues you have will be taken care of then
[15:00] <BBLLCC> there goes my afternoon
[15:02] <BBLLCC> we are talking lines 174 to 190, plus the end, right?
[15:03] <holstein> BBLLCC: anything that is giving error there.. .any source that is failing
[15:14] <BBLLCC> holstein, i have no idea about what to do regarding lines 174 to 189
[15:14] <holstein> BBLLCC: what i do is, if they are 3rd party, unsupported ppa's, i purge them..
[15:14] <holstein> !info ppa-purge
[15:14] <BBLLCC> the other errors have been solved
[15:15] <BBLLCC> but those lines dont state the name of the application, just "trusty main sources"
[15:15] <holstein> if they are mirrors that are supported, i either check them and wait on them, or move to other mirrors.. i make sure "sudo apt-get update" can finish with no errors
[15:15] <holstein> BBLLCC: these are sources, not applications
[15:15] <holstein> BBLLCC: i know not of "other errors".. i just konw that i want "sudo apt-get update" to finish with no errors
[15:16] <BBLLCC> so its the internet connection or the server that is down...
[15:16] <holstein> BBLLCC: it could be one of those issues, yes.. but, it could also be the 3rd party sources are no longer supported by the 3rd party
[15:16] <holstein> BBLLCC: could be your internet.. could be the source mirrors..
[15:30] <BBLLCC> holstein, what I have never understood is, when I install a ppa, do I have to install both the main and the source ppa lines?
[15:31] <genii> The source line isn't usually needed unless you want to recompile the package yourself for some reason
[15:44] <BBLLCC> so, no more errors...
[15:44] <BBLLCC> back to the printer drivers
[15:46] <holstein> !ppa | BBLLCC
[15:50] <BBLLCC> not really, i still get> E: courier-imap-ssl: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2, but apparently I need that packages for internet...
[15:52] <holstein> BBLLCC: does "sudo apt-get update" finish without error?
[15:52] <BBLLCC> yes, I got that from synaptic
[15:52] <BBLLCC> command line shows no error
[15:53] <holstein> BBLLCC: please open a terminal, and run "sudo apt-get update" and you can share the output in a pastebin
[15:54] <holstein> BBLLCC: if you are completing without error, you can try "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and also share errors..
[15:55] <BBLLCC> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7659093/
[15:56] <holstein> BBLLCC: ok.. so, as stated above, since there are no errors, how about running "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and share output in paste?
[15:56] <BBLLCC> i already have 14.04
[15:56] <holstein> BBLLCC: ok
[15:57] <BBLLCC> my problem is now only the printer drivers
[15:57] <holstein> BBLLCC: that command is *not* trying to upgrade the distribution. you are free to look up what it does.. otherwise, *please* open a terminal, and run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and share errors
[15:57] <holstein> BBLLCC: your problem is broken packages.. and i am helping you address that..
[15:58] <BBLLCC> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7659110/
[15:59] <BBLLCC> im gonna autoremove...
[16:02] <holstein> BBLLCC: i wouldnt..
[16:03] <holstein> BBLLCC: but, likely that wont hurt anything..
[16:03] <BBLLCC> do you see any packages that is needed for the system to work?
[16:05] <holstein> BBLLCC: i do not know your system, friend
[16:05] <holstein> BBLLCC: i like to keep older known good kernels around..
[16:05] <holstein> BBLLCC: whats the benefit of removing those? hard drive space? im not interested in clearing that out..
[16:06] <holstein> if you are, go for it.. its not going to "fix" your held broken packages..
[16:22] <guyg> Hi.  Since installing the proprietary nvidia drivers, DBUS doesn't seem to work.  I get "Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-ou6Johku99: Connection refused" for several applications.  dbus-daemon is running, but the temporary directory it refers to doesn't exist.
[16:51] <halfbeing> i've set chromium as my preferred browser in the system settings, but many applications still open firefox. how can i force them to call chromium instead?
[16:51] <malohhree> http://askubuntu.com/q/484596/294363
[16:53] <malohhree> Help me. :(
[16:53] <malohhree> http://askubuntu.com/q/484596/294363
[16:53] <holstein> malohhree: you said another user worked fine? corrrect?
[16:54] <malohhree> Yea, but I can't fix my main account. I've been trying and trying. And I don't know anything about Bash. :/
[16:54] <holstein> malohhree: thats fine.. you need not bash
[16:54] <holstein> malohhree: what would i do? you can always literally move the *entire* users /home.. or just the .hidden files out of the way. move/copy to a usb stick or whatever so you have them saved..
[16:55] <holstein> then, you can reboot, test the system with the user account, and put back what configs you want.. likely just the ones for the web browser and the data
[16:56] <malohhree> So basically just move everything I have to the new user account?
[16:58] <holstein> malohhree: no
[16:58] <holstein> malohhree: but, you can do that as well
[16:58] <holstein> malohhree: what im saying is, remove the .hidden config files in the user that is "broken"
[17:00] <malohhree> Hmmmm,..okay
[17:00] <malohhree> Idk how to do that.
[17:00] <holstein> malohhree: you can use a file manager and remove them
[17:01] <holstein> malohhree: the easy way? from a live CD.. but, you can use the new user if you want.. you'll show hidden files with the filemanager pressing control h
[17:01] <malohhree> okay im going to try that. Thanks!
[17:05] <nikolam> wow, thunar went crazy on me, using 1.2G of RAM reserved, while trying to copy some video files from SD reader
[18:35] <snuggyfoo> I recently did update & upgrade and now have two bluetooth indicators in the indicator plugin. Has anyone else experienced this?
[18:35] <snuggyfoo> I can't figure out how to remove it either
[18:35] <baizon_> snuggyfoo: have you tried clean .cache?
[18:36] <snuggyfoo> I haven't, but wouldn't a reboot have done that anyway
[18:39] <snuggyfoo> baizon_ I figured it out. Forgot to kill / restart the panel after hiding 'bluetooth' in the indicator plugin settings
[18:40] <snuggyfoo> I still have no idea why there are two, but at least it's back to the way it was
[18:40] <snuggyfoo> ohhhhh, one is "blueman applet" and the other is part of the indicator plugin.
[19:24] <MisterAcacia> Does anyone know if Ctrl-Alt-Shift-= is used? I'm trying to use it in a program but the program doesn't react. I don't see it in keyboard shortcuts, any tips on where else to look?
[20:11] <xubuntu835> sa
[20:11] <xubuntu835> hello
[20:14] <ranu> hello ^^
[20:30] <meek_geek> how r u
[20:44] <jesse__> tumblerd is keeping me from deleting a file. Is there a way to release its hold on the file, or gracefully restart it? It doesn't have a man page. Google-fu is failing me.
[20:48] <jesse__> I have a file on an external name .fuse_hidden with a string of numbers. I couldn't remove it - it would pop back.
[20:49] <jesse__> Googling I used lsof to see that tumblerd was using it
[20:49] <jesse__> I stopped tumblerd (it was using 25% CPU as well)
[20:50] <jesse__> killall -9 tumblerd is now returning no process. lsof .fuse... is showing nothing. still can't delete file.
[20:52] <freshmint> hey i upgrade from ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04, my main desktop environment was ubuntu though i installed xubuntu for trial parallel. Now after updating from 12.04 to 14.04 only the xubuntu desktop environment is available. How can i manually reinstall the unity ubuntu desktop so that I may choose both on log in?
[20:56] <jesse__> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop  <--don't necessarily listen to me
[20:56] <jesse__> your other problem could be with the login screen not showing it for some reason
[20:57] <crimsondusk> might need to reconfigure some package
[20:57] <jesse__> I've heard bad things about installing xfce and unity together, though.
[20:57] <crimsondusk> no clue what package's configuration is responsible for adjusting the display manager though
[20:57] <freshmint> jesse__, i will give it a shot
[20:58] <freshmint> thx
[20:58] <freshmint> seems that it hasnt been installed cause apt-get fetches some stuff
[20:59] <freshmint> i will try loggin in and out
[20:59] <jesse__> freshmint, settings > session and startup > general: try checking the box under "session chooser" [] display chooser on login
[20:59] <jesse__> maybe also deselect [] automatically save session on logout
[21:00] <jesse__> maybe, it could cause problems trying to run pieces of one in the other
[21:00] <freshmint> jesse__, hmm now its there but some stuff looks messed up....
[21:00] <freshmint> icons and stuff looks shitty but i can manage
[21:01] <jesse__> yeah it probably will. You will likely need to do some configuring. I've read that they both don't work well out of the box when both WMs are installed. Might search for a guide
[21:01] <freshmint> i will do a reboot first and get back to you. thanks anyway
[21:02] <jesse__> np
[21:03] <jesse__> so my lsof .fuse_hidden### returns nothing, but $sudo lsof .fuse_hidden### returns: can't stat() fuse.gvfsd-fuse
[21:04] <jesse__> there is a gvfsd-fuse process running. I've only been able to find that it deals with mounting (makes sense as this is ext hdd)
[21:04] <jesse__> I've kind of hit my limits here. not sure if anyone has advice.
[21:08] <jesse__> weird. tumblerd must have restarted on its own. killed it again and was able to remove. strange that it wasn't showing in lsof.
[21:11] <freshmint> jesse__, okay im back to my old kind of look and feel so im happy ;) thanks some stuff crashes on startup but lets see if i get it fixed or i just ignore it
[21:13] <jesse__> cool. good luck!
[21:13] <freshmint> probably still some crappy old applications creating trouble on startup prorgamms and stuff like that
[21:31] <skribblezatcha> freshmint: what DE did you start with if you dont mind me asking?
[22:10] <Viking667> 'llo all. I've got a strange question. I can't figure out how to switch sound outputs.
[22:11] <Viking667> I've got two sound outputs, and pulseaudio seems to be choosing the on-board sound as opposed to the USB headset. I can't see where to change it.