[00:30] wow.. so, as it turns out, somehow kde-workspace-bin and a few other packages, including plasma-desktop, were uninstalled by the power outage.. [00:31] easy fix by doing apt-get install kde-workspace-bin and letting it find the deps that were all missing... >_< [00:45] OxDeadC0de: its usually something stupid like that [00:45] glad you found the issue [00:49] I guess the moral of the story is, don't have a power outage while apt-get is upgrading packages, or really bad things may happen.. [00:55] Yep [00:55] That seems to sum it up [00:55] :3 [00:55] Also never do anything with apt aside from updateing on wifi [00:55] bad idea [02:25] quick question about print settings. i have everything set in printer options through admin panels, and also through cups web interface. but each time i go to print the default settings do not match what i have set. even though on checking them they are still set correctly system wide. just not in individual programs, ie. browsers etc [02:31] any ideas [02:34] is there somewhere else print preferences are kept? === mike is now known as Guest97891 [04:45] Is there an easy way to downgrade from ubuntu 14.10 to 14.04? [04:46] looks like I've lost my usb 3.0 in 14.10 [04:48] no, there's no downgrade route [04:52] I guess I'll have to format and re-install [04:52] ;/ [04:53] if you're planning to play with the development version, ideally you should use a chroot/virtual machine/spare device [04:54] it's been a while since I've risked the dev version on my main laptop [04:54] yeah should have did a vm [04:54] but played risky and lost my usb 3.0 [04:54] :( === kubuntu is now known as Guest77098 [07:35] does anyone know how to bind the mouse back button on kickoff? === sano is now known as Guest96871 [08:32] kubuntu embaressed me :( [08:32] my usb jabra works fine on ubuntu [08:33] but not on kubuntu [08:33] nice to know just before a hangout meeting [08:34] you should be able to use pulseaudio to make it work [08:34] quite easily [08:34] idd, it used to work too [08:34] it stopped working for some reason :/ [08:34] jjeronimo: I'm assuming that you've messed around in the sound priority setup stuff? [08:34] I only can use the mic or the speakers [08:34] the Pulseaudio Volume Control widget lets you move input/output from/to any device [08:35] not both at the same time [08:35] it just appears disabled in the sound setup [08:35] did you right-click on the "wrong" source to change it to the right source? [08:35] yeah, the device is partly disabled [08:36] jjeronimo: did you change the device config in the 'Audio Hardware Setup' tab? [08:36] ether the mic is disabled or the speakers are disabled [08:36] jjeronimo: make sure it's duplex or output+input ? [08:36] of the same headset [08:37] jjeronimo: Sound Config -> Audio Harware Setup -> Sound Card (select the headset here) and make sure the profile/configuration is correct? [08:39] the profile is mono output [08:39] no other profile there [08:39] at sound setup [08:39] of the sound icon [08:40] audio setup -> audio hardware setup [08:41] how can I make it duplex? [08:42] jjeronimo: ah. that would be the issue I guess. [08:42] jjeronimo: what about the 'device configuration' ? [08:43] hmm.. that doesn't matter if the profile is wrong :| [08:43] idd [08:43] even tried adding another repo [08:43] with latest sound stuff [08:43] jjeronimo: I wonder if it's a known issue with gstreamer (assuming gstreamer backend?) [08:44] yes [08:44] 12.04 [08:44] kubuntu 12.04 [08:44] fresh install for a few months [08:45] anyways, should get back to work, i'll try again tonight [08:45] back to work =) [08:45] thx anyways guys [08:46] jjeronimo: no problems. possibly close to the right question now, I hope? [08:49] jjeronimo: oooo, please switch to phonon-backend-vlc [08:50] you may have to install it if you have not already [08:50] pgst doesn't work very well, imo [08:50] sorry, i should have asked that right up top [08:56] frogonwheels: idd, closer thx [08:56] valorie: pgst? [08:56] ah the backend [08:57] gstreamer alternative ? [08:58] valorie: ok thx, iĺl try it later [08:59] yes, sorry [08:59] that was slangy of me [08:59] pgst=phonon-backend-gstreamer [08:59] pvlc=phonon-backend-vlc [09:00] sounds good valorie, ill try it later, thx === Haudegen is now known as Guest63102 === mk is now known as Guest89897 [10:22] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TpOLKbta4s [10:31] robotdevil: what's with the link? [10:31] illegal? [10:32] robotdevil: well it's not on topic for here, we have #kubuntu-offtopic for non-support related stuff [10:32] thought it was a neat [10:33] channel is dead bud, relax [10:33] it's still offtopic and so should be in #kubuntu-offtopic [10:33] k den [10:34] actually thought there was only ubuntu-offtopic [10:36] there's usually an offtopic channel for each flavor [10:36] Precisely for these cases ;) [10:44] 'Morning folks [11:00] How do I download and install BabasChess 3.6 Wine? [11:02] install wine then download the chess exe file and install it under wine [11:03] I have never tried downloading software independently from my Muon Software Center or Package Manager [11:05] independently ? [11:06] I mean I have never tried downloading and installing programs outside of my Muon Package Manager and Muon Software Centre [11:07] Well, I think I have used the konsole to do that, but I was following commands from an expert like you [11:08] I have never tried doing it on my own [11:08] SamwiseGamgee, when you use Muon/Package Manager it's not independent it's part of the dpkg system used by kubuntu to install or remove software ...apt-get in the konsole is part of dpkg system as well , it's just a shell [11:09] Thatś why I generally only install software using the Muon Software Center [11:10] is there a tutorial that tells you the steps to follow in order to install Wine, and then download and install the chess exe file you mentioned? [11:11] wine can be installed from the package manager, just download the chess exe file to your downloads file which is usually default. Then the exe file should open in wine when you click on it to install [11:12] I looked on this website, http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=3875, but no such tutorial is found there [11:12] Ok, I can do that without a tutorial [11:12] thanks bluesKaj [11:13] tank me when it works for you , SamwiseGamgee ;0 [11:13] thank [11:13] Yes, that´s what I was thinking. It sounds simple, but things never go as planned === newbie is now known as Guest15234 [11:14] SamwiseGamgee, not all windows exe files will run under wine, but it's worth a try [11:15] most games do afaik [11:15] Oh yeah, Wine is like a Windows emulator [11:16] SamwiseGamgee: actually Wine Is Not an Emulator [11:16] ;) [11:18] afaik, what does that mean? [11:18] as far as i know [11:26] BluesKaj, the exe file you are referring to, is that the BabasChess 3.6 file? And do you mean that once Wine is already installed and running, the BabasChess exe file should automatically open with Wine when I click on the BabasChess exe file to install it? [11:29] SamwiseGamgee, I casn only say that the last time I used wine clicking on the exe file opened it in wine, but that was many yrs ago. It may be different now. [11:30] You meant the Downloads folder, not the Downloads file, right? [11:31] SamwiseGamgee, you can also find advice in the #wine chatroom [11:31] Wow, good idea [11:31] actually it's #winehq [11:32] the downloads folder in /home/user, yes [11:33] aka ~/Downloads, SamwiseGamgee === Guest15234 is now known as AciD`` === oem is now known as ecotechresearch === kyle is now known as m1sf1t === kyle is now known as Guest98895 === mohammed is now known as Guest31705 === soee_ is now known as soee [16:28] Hi , I have added a Bluetooth device at my network, there is no way to remove it now , its been there for long time , If i removed it , it will show on next boot === Haudegen is now known as Guest22093 [17:37] non mi ricordo più come si usa irc, come sono conciato === shadaa is now known as ShalokShalom === LjL is now known as Guest33414 === mir_ is now known as MirTx2500 === SvenOostenbrink is now known as phoenixz [18:05] hi, one question: i got an pendrive, when i maid a lsusb is detected as connected, but when i make a sudo fdisk -l i don't see the partition so i can't mount it. is there any way to make it mount? [18:07] juacom99, run mount to see if it's listed [18:09] BluesKaj: no it is not list [18:09] *listed [18:10] juacom99, ok try, mount -o remount,rw /path/to/drive [18:10] i don't got a path to drive [18:11] it's probly listed in lsusb as /dev/usbsomething [18:11] that's the hole point BluesKaj , if i issu a sudo fdisk -l the partition isn't there [18:11] juacom99: Does udev see the flash drive? [18:12] let me check [18:20] <__dan__> Hi guys, hope you are all well :) I have seen screenshots for KDE 5 - I have to have this [18:20] <__dan__> been using Kubuntu for years, I have a spare hard drive, what's the best way to try it out? [18:22] __dan__: Make a dual boot using one of the project-neon iso's. [18:23] i agree with this... kde 5 screenshots looking bloody amazing [18:23] <__dan__> gorgeous, isn't it :) [18:23] absolutely... this will make me first time donating for linux/kde/kubuntu [18:24] <__dan__> I have a spare hard drive, was going to try installing 14.10 without GUI, add the Kubuntu Next PPA and install from there? [18:25] why not just installing the latest kubuntu 14.04 like i have.. and then add the kubuntu next ppa and then you can chose before login between kde 4 and plasma next [18:25] they can coexist just fine [18:26] <__dan__> yeah I could do, but I'm not bothered about running KDE 4 as well - I just wanted to experience KDE 5 for myself on a separate hard drive [18:26] <__dan__> would be nice to maybe try wayland too but I'm not sure where things are up to with all that [18:27] sure then go ahead... for me kde 5 is not yet stable for my daily tasks but kde 4 is :) and ofc i will eagerly await kde 5 [18:27] on wayland i cant help you [18:27] didnt inform myself either [18:28] __dan__: They got their own iso's, why not use those? [18:28] <__dan__> is it more stable than KDE 4.0 yet? ;) [18:28] no way [18:28] <__dan__> lordievader: the project neon ones? [18:29] <__dan__> would be easier I guess - are the Neon ISOs based on ubuntu 14.10 ? [18:29] __dan__: Not sure, ask around in #projectneon ;) [18:30] <__dan__> thank you I will :) [18:34] <__dan__> or I could just download the ISO while I do other stuff haha will let you guys know :) === LjL is now known as Guest78178 [18:46] hi, BluesKaj are you still here? [18:47] juacom99, yes [18:47] i don't have udev installed, i nstall the package but whene i run the porgram i get nothing [18:48] juacom99: How do you not have udev installed O.O [18:48] juacom99: What version of Kubuntu are you running and how did you install it? [18:49] i'm on a live CD 12.04 [18:49] juacom99: what are you trying to do? if I could stick my beak =) [18:50] bprompt: i got a usb, i see it connected when i issu a lsusb [18:50] but is not show on sudo fdisk -l [18:50] ? [18:50] i'm trying to mount the pendrive [18:51] sorry i ment pendrive [18:51] juacom99: you mean tryiung to mount an iso? [18:51] bpa pendrive [18:51] Hmm, very odd. I could swear that Precise has udev (on the live-cd too). [18:51] -l List the partition tables for the specified devices and then exit. If no devices are given, those mentioned in /proc/partitions (if that exists) are used. [18:52] ^ from man fdisk ^ [18:52] Avihay: as i said i list the partition but only get the HardDrive partitions [18:52] so ask fdisk specifically for the pendrive [18:52] juacom99: ... what do you get from -> sudo fdisk -l | grep Disk; ? [18:53] I'd think it's surely show there [18:53] you may just be looking at the wrong entry [18:53] Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes Disk identifier: 0x16ad7f97 [18:53] juacom99: only 1 Disk entry? [18:53] yep i got i HD only [18:54] juacom99: It is verified that the stick works? [18:54] juacom99: hmm what does lsusb give you? [18:55] yeah... could be a dead stick too =) [18:55] or you may just need to replug it [18:55] bprompt: i try to replugin it many times in many diferetst usb ports [18:56] juacom99: hmm what does lsusb give you? [18:56] juacom99, does sudo fdisk -l show anything like this : /dev/sdc1 * 2048 2000895 999424 b W95 FAT32 [18:56] maybe is just dead, but the light is flashing [18:56] BluesKaj: nop that's the problem it don't detect the partition [18:57] Bus 001 Device 006: ID 1130:0001 Tenx Technology, Inc. [18:57] bprompt: [18:58] then the image isn't correct on the stick [18:58] juacom99: any specific branding on the usb stick... bpa? dunno what that is btw [18:58] Hmm, even without a partition table it should still show up in fdisk/parted. [19:00] lordievader: yep that's extrange is like the usb reconize it but the kernel don't [19:01] juacom99: If it shows up in lsusb the kernel sees it (else it wouldn't be there), however it may be that it is not recognized as a storage device. [19:03] yeap [19:03] juacom99: any specific branding on the usb stick... bpa? dunno what that is btw [19:04] like for example I don't think U3 partitions are loaded when encountered in a stick [19:05] it should be a ntfs or fat partition [19:05] juacom99: another example of that would be an android device... it doesn't show up as a mapped device unless you make it as "usb storage" from android OS [19:05] even though it may well be plugged in [19:05] bprompt: the brand seems to be Tenx Technology, Inc [19:06] is just a regular, old USB stick [19:06] juacom99: Do you know that for sure, or is it a guess? [19:07] a guess, the pendrive don't have any brand stiker or whatever [19:07] Hmm, as I see. Is 'udevadm' available? [19:07] yes i got it [19:08] juacom99: for all we know is some encrypted storage... and many vendors include some type of encryption utility === notzopsi is now known as zopsi [19:08] juacom99: Great, can you unplug the stick. Open a terminal run "sudo udevadm monitor --environment --udev" (keep it running) and plug-in the device? [19:09] If there is output, please pastebin it. [19:10] http://paste.kde.org/pbhopia0x [19:12] Hihi, your pc thinks it is a keyboard ;) [19:13] hmmm [19:13] sounds like a IR usb plug for an IR keyboard then [19:14] as opposed to "an old regular usb stick" [19:15] but is a usb stick, why does kubunbtu thinks is a keybord :| [19:15] *cough*.... well.. you see.. we really dunno.... you "think" it's.... but is all we know [19:15] juacom99: Probably because the identifier tells the kernel it is. [19:15] <__dan__> just for shits and giggles I googled the vid and pid you supplied above [19:16] <__dan__> google thinks its a keyboard too [19:16] if it swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it ain't no cat /me ducks [19:16] <__dan__> eheh [19:16] __dan__: ok this is odd, i got it right here and IS a usb stick [19:17] <__dan__> are you sure it's not a wireless keyboard / mouse transceiver? [19:17] juacom99: Have you verified that it works? It could be that the controller is borked. [19:18] i can't make it load on others O.S either [19:18] sounds like an IR usb plug for a keyboard or who knows, a mouse or whatever IR else [19:18] hint: -> [12:27] i can't make it load on others O.S either [19:18] <__dan__> yeah my money's on wireless keyboard and mouse dongle [19:18] juacom99: Buy a new one ;) [19:19] <__dan__> you can get more details by using sudo lsusb -v [19:19] yeah.. even usb wlan adapters are about the size of a usb stick [19:19] lordievader: is not mine, i work at a helpdesk, and it got important information [19:20] <__dan__> lol i really dont think it does [19:20] juacom99: Then there is a backup. Buy a new one. [19:20] <__dan__> but then i never tried copying any files to a usb wireless dongle hehe [19:22] thanks you all __dan__ , lordievader, bprompt for your help [19:22] np [19:23] <__dan__> you're welcome juacom99 :) maybe the user gave you the wrong USB stick? [19:23] juacom99: No problem. [19:23] and "the user" might be wondering why his wireless keyboard is not working [19:24] <__dan__> eheh [19:24] <__dan__> sorry juacom99 i dont mean to be rude but it is a funny situation :) [19:25] indeed, is not hard to mistake one for the other, as I said, even wlan adapters many look like so [19:25] <__dan__> absolutely [19:25] cya [19:25] <__dan__> cya :) [19:29] <__dan__> i have been in that situation before, but never been unfortunate enough to have to explain it to a user === zopsi is now known as notzopsi [19:31] <__dan__> "look dude, windoze thinks its a wireless keyboard dongle, linux agrees, so does google, and *crunch* you see that? that's an internal aerial" [19:31] <__dan__> heheh [19:32] Still, it could have been a usb storage device with a very cheap controller. [19:33] <__dan__> hardware has been known to get confused, particularly cheap shit :) [19:37] <__dan__> lsusb -v should list each function provided by a device but i'd be more inclined in that situation just to crack it open and look for anything like an aerial on the pcb [19:38] <__dan__> assuming the user could be trusted not to haul me in front of the boss because "he broke my memory stick and i had my files on it, also my keyboard doesn't work anymore" ... [19:39] Udev tells you enough, doesn't it? [19:40] No need to physically do anything, phew :) [19:40] <__dan__> maybe, but breaking hardware is funny [19:40] <__dan__> to be honest i always use lsusb, not really familiar with poking udev for that kind of thing [19:40] hit it with a hammer that should show it whos boss... [19:41] <__dan__> hehe FIXED. [19:42] __dan__: Great thing about udev is that it does all hardware, so if it pluggable and you are unsure that the kernel sees it: udevadm :D [19:45] <__dan__> wow yeah i just tried udevadm monitor [19:45] <__dan__> only seems like it would give the vid's and pid's for pci devices though [19:46] __dan__: You can also write udev rules to automate things, for example when a usb stick with serial X is inserted that it mounts it syncs a folder and unmounts. === |GuS| is now known as [GuS] [19:48] <__dan__> that's a neat trick :) === notzopsi is now known as zopsi [20:02] damn [20:03] i still have no sound in kde [20:04] MirTx2500: not even the "desktop" sounds when it starts? can you play .ogg files? [20:05] nope [20:06] all my soundcard's are greyed out === stan is now known as Guest49077 [20:07] MirTx2500: pavucontrol [20:07] as root or normal user [20:07] why sudo when you can su [20:07] MirTx2500: pavucontrol is a gui [20:08] MirTx2500: Normally you cannot su since the root account is disabled in Ubuntu. [20:08] lordievader: i enabled it [20:08] spending too much time sudo'ng stuff annoyed me [20:09] screw puavcontrol use the new mixer widget veromix. [20:09] MirTx2500: Not really the Ubuntu way, it would be better to use "sudo -s" or something similair to get a root shell. [20:09] MirTx2500: you can always just "sudo su" <--- [20:09] btw [20:09] https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?58778-VeroMix-as-KMix-alternative-(avoids-occasional-segfaults) [20:09] sithlord48: it works well [20:09] I use it and yes,I don't like the "sudo" each time either, depeding on what I'm doing, if it's lengthy... then I just "sudo su" [20:10] https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?58778-VeroMix-as-KMix-alternative-(avoids-occasional-segfaults) <- getting veromix to replace kmix [20:10] hm [20:10] eh [20:10] doesnt matter [20:10] MirTx2500: Anyhow, what kind of soundcard do you have? [20:10] i enabled the ability to just type su [20:10] kmix isn't that bad.... but if the drivers aren't there.... pavucontrol or anything else... may not help [20:10] i have 3 [20:11] veromix is kmix for pulseaudio [20:11] sithlord48, pavucontrol works well with kmix and alsamixer , no need for vermix [20:11] the built in AMD soundcard in this HP TabletPC, a C-Media usb soundcard and a USB soundcard from a company called NOX [20:11] veromix rather [20:11] BluesKaj: +1 [20:12] MirTx2500: With "lspci -k" you can check if there is a driver loaded for the built in one. [20:12] idk i have been using veromix for a while now to throw stuff to diffent cards on teh fly i like it :D [20:13] 00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 30f1 Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel === zopsi is now known as notzopsi [20:13] MirTx2500: did u have sound at some point? [20:13] MirTx2500: Does that one show up in pavucontrol? [20:14] lordievader: it shows up greyed out in the KDE phonon settings [20:14] settings> Multimedia >Audio and Video Settings> [20:15] MirTx2500: That was not what I asked ;) [20:15] cant answer it when that program is not installed :) [20:15] MirTx2500, check your audio settings in system settings>multimedia>audio&video settings>device preference and hardware tab [20:16] BluesKaj: thats what i just mentione [20:16] they are greyed out [20:16] the harware tab should show pulseaudio input and output settings [20:18] MirTx2500,then open a terminal, sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel [20:18] done [20:18] still nothing [20:19] hold on [20:19] got ksnapshot installed [20:19] MirTx2500, was there any output? [20:19] none [20:19] # modprobe snd_hda_intel [20:19] # [20:20] ok then the driver loaded, try a relogin [20:20] ok [20:20] brb [20:20] sudo modprobe [20:20] error missing peramiters [20:21] modprobe: ERROR: missing parameters. See -h. [20:21] pavucontrol, you deserve to have it [20:21] XD [20:21] MirTx2500, sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel [20:21] no need for the sudo [20:21] whatever [20:22] still [20:22] no error from that [20:22] gimme a moment to log out [20:22] brb [20:24] still nothing [20:24] mir_, install pavucontrol [20:24] already installed [20:24] hold on [20:25] mir_, sometimes a reboot is needed, don't ask me why [20:27] http://picpaste.com/snapshot1_1.png [20:27] there [20:27] maybe that will help clear some confusion [20:27] let me knsapshot alsamixer [20:27] which sees my devices finer [20:27] fine [20:29] hmm [20:29] mir_, try a reboot, that should load the driver permanently === Guest78178 is now known as LjL === kubuntu is now known as Guest37333 [20:36] well, gotta go... been a long day === notzopsi is now known as zopsi [21:02] didnt work [21:04] Hello [21:06] I was changing the screen settings and now both my screens are black. How can I restore the settings? [21:07] Taggnostr4: From a tty: "export DISPLAY=:0&& xrandr --output --auto [21:07] Taggnostr4: From a tty: "export DISPLAY=:0&& xrandr --output --auto' [21:07] Ctrl+alt+f1 Ctrl+alt+f7 seems to have worked [21:08] Heh, good to hear ;) [21:08] Why isn't there a timeout that restores the settings after 15 secs? [21:09] I'm in settings -> display configuration [21:09] And if I change something I can only do apply, and that seems permanent [21:11] Taggnostr4: There is actually. [21:12] I don't get it here [21:12] I do apply and it changes [21:14] Hmm, I thought it did... Perhaps kscreen no longer does it... Oh well. Time to go to bed. [21:14] Thanks anyway [21:17] You can also just do ctrl-alt- and then numpad + or - to cycle through available resolutions. [21:22] genii, you mean one I get a black screen? [21:22] At any time. this key combo has been in X for a long time. [21:23] OK, good to know :) === cibreiro is now known as colega3 === zopsi is now known as notzopsi [22:25] is anybody having this issue with the kubuntu OS [22:26] my kubuntu doesn't come out of sleep mode [22:26] each time it goes into sleep mode after typing my password to log back in the screen goes blank [22:27] for some reason kubuntu doesn't save my files to disk before it goes to sleep [22:27] i always have to hard start my PC again === notzopsi is now known as zopsi