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MooDoohello all05:39
Unit193First link is DOA. ---v08:23
Unit193!sponsor08:23
ubottuYou can find out about the package sponsorship process here http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess - For !UDS sponsorship see http://uds.ubuntu.com/participate/sponsorship/08:23
tsimpsonthe second part can be removed08:27
Unit193s/First/Second/  Right, exactly.08:30
Pricey!no sponsorship is <reply>You can find out about the package sponsorship process here http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess08:39
Pricey@login08:39
lubotu3Error: Your hostmask doesn't match or your password is wrong.08:39
lubotu2Error: Your hostmask doesn't match or your password is wrong.08:39
ubottuThe operation succeeded.08:39
lubotu1Error: Your hostmask doesn't match or your password is wrong.08:39
ubot5Error: Your hostmask doesn't match or your password is wrong.08:39
Pricey!no sponsorship is <reply>You can find out about the package sponsorship process here http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess08:39
Pricey!sponsorship08:40
ubottuYou can find out about the package sponsorship process here http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess - For !UDS sponsorship see http://uds.ubuntu.com/participate/sponsorship/08:40
Pricey!-sponsorship08:40
ubottusponsorship aliases: sponsoring - added by AlanBell on 2012-01-23 14:45:30 - last edited by LjL on 2012-01-23 14:46:0208:40
Pricey!-sponsor08:40
ubottusponsor is <alias> sponsoring - added by LjL on 2012-05-13 17:08:23 - last edited by LjL on 2012-05-13 17:12:0708:40
Pricey!no sponsorship is <reply>You can find out about the package sponsorship process here http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess08:40
ubottuI'll remember that Pricey08:40
Pricey!sponsor08:40
ubottuYou can find out about the package sponsorship process here http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess08:40
* Pricey wonders why it ignored the 2nd attempt08:41
Unit193Pricey: Sorry, forgot to say thank you, so thank you. :)10:03
PriceyUnit193: No probs.10:03
Unit193Well hey, calendar says an IRC meeting today.11:18
MooDooUnit193: really?  missed that one even though I'm not really part of it :D13:29
MooDooUnit193: where is the calendar?13:31
tsimpson!calendar | MooDoo13:39
ubottuMooDoo: calendar is at http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars/13:39
MooDoothank14:05
MooDooI should be ashamed as I did know that :(14:05
PriceyWhere's an nhandler when you need him.15:58
Fuchson either rather long IRC holidays or in heaven15:59
FuchsPricey: given you are already here:   "$j:<chan> – matches users who are or are not banned from a specified channel"   VS   "/mode #here +q $j:#timbuktu   would quiet users within #here that are banned in #timbuktu."16:06
FuchsPricey: is that missing an ~  or is one of the two wrong?  (Compare: not banned   versus  banned)16:07
Pici"are or are not banned"16:07
Fuchsyes, which one of the two, then?  Banned, according to the example, but then  $j  should not match these that aren't, but ~  would16:09
Fuchsor am I missing something?16:09
Fuchsbecause the two subsets   "are" and "are not"  banned  would match 100% of all users16:09
Fuchsunless you are shroedingers user, that is16:10
Pici$[~]j<chan> matches users who are or are not banned16:10
Fuchsthat would be somewhat better, but maybe just leave the  "are not" and provide a second example?16:10
Piciperhaps16:11
Fuchs(for those not seeing the reference: http://blog.freenode.net/2014/06/new-extban-j/)16:11
Fuchsthen perhaps Pricey wants to fix that16:11
PriceyThats a "help extban" quote16:11
Fuchsthen perhaps Pricey wants to fix that and in addition to that: yell at people who initially wrote it, assuming charybdis16:12
PriceySend a patch?16:12
Fuchsthat would probably also work, but I was more talking about your blog post16:12
Fuchssince that is what people are reading right now, to avoid some confusion there16:13
PriceyI'm happy leaving it as a quote. There are other nuances not explained either, such as the modes it is applicable to. No wildcards etc.16:15
Fuchs*shrug*16:15
PriceyI could explain those and remove every possible source of confusion.16:16
Fuchsor just remove the very obvious source of confusion as a start16:16
Priceys/I/we/16:16
Fuchswell, removing the "or are not " would already help a lot, I think.16:17
FuchsAnd that should be trivial to make, given it is the blog and not the website16:18
Fuchsthinking of it, assuming it will end up on http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml at one point, where it is a huge pain in the rear end to change, fixing it first would probably be a good idea indeed :)16:18
PriceyAll other extbans work in the same way and thats how theyre currently documented.16:18
Fuchsnot on http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml16:19
Fuchsthere it is only in the matching sense, with an example for the inverse  (see $a on http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml)16:19
Fuchsand for the sake of consistency: neither in the blog, see http://blog.freenode.net/2013/06/new-tlsssl-channel-modes-and-webirc/16:21
Fuchsso I personally would recommend removing the  "or are not "16:22
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