[05:27] <jacco> hi
[05:45] <Mirv> t1mp: hi. I did hear about the gallery header problem as well, and yes it's a new problem. I asked davmor2 to file a bug about it, but I think one hasn't been filed yet
[07:15] <cm-t> dobey: I didn't (yet) file the bug, about contact, because I can't find ubuntu-phone-contacts in ubuntu-phone-coreapps, tryed in ubuntu-phone-commons but no bugsystem there, any suggestion (bug is about no contact sync from SIM)?
[07:16] <dholbach> good morning
[07:17] <cm-t> good morning dholbach , *
[07:17] <dholbach> cm-t, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/address-book-app/+bugs maybe?
[07:18] <cm-t> oh, sound logic…
[07:18] <cm-t> thanks dholbach
[07:40] <cm-t> dholbach: dobey: I finally added 3 bugs, hopes it was the good thing to do (1 for each type of import: SIM, file, account)
[07:41] <dholbach> good work! :)
[07:41] <cm-t> #1331346 #1331348 and #1331351
[07:42] <cm-t> I added "for human being" in the description since I found on askubuntu some way to sync contact, but using CLI and need a device
[07:44] <kempe> clear_highmon
[07:47] <ogra_> cm-t, contacts sync with google contacts works since a while (together with calendar syncs)
[07:49] <ogra_> (set up a google account in the system-settings, there are checkboxes for both actionas after you created the account)
[08:00] <cm-t> ogra_: yes, maybe, i don't know. I can't find this option anywhere
[08:01] <cm-t> I just remember on May, first boot, something asked me to sync/import on first launch of contact, but never re-opened this
[08:02] <cm-t> yesterday I put my SIM for the first time (i was using the phone for demo purpose only)
[08:02] <cm-t> and now I am not asked for anything, and can't find this option in the interface
[08:03] <cm-t> I found some howto on askubuntu, but there require the use of command line (this is not "human being")
[08:03] <cm-t> ogra_: I go check what you said about online account
[08:08] <cm-t> ogra_: you are right about account sync, I am updating the bug about it thanks for the notice
[08:14] <cm-t> ogra_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/address-book-app/+bug/1331351 do you think it sound logic ?
[08:15] <cm-t> maybe the title need to be updated
[08:16] <ogra_> i would call it something like "contacts syncing is not intuitive"
[08:21] <cm-t> you are right, done
[08:24] <dholbach> can anyone reply to https://twitter.com/hilmi09/status/477031264982020096 please?
[08:24] <yoldovah> hi i have a question regaring porting
[08:25] <yoldovah> i have setup my tree and then i run source build/envsetup.sh  && lunch     but it just complains to me  "build/core/product_config.mk:223: *** Cannot locate config makefile for product "     how do i fix this
[08:26] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy International Panic Day! :-D
[08:31] <davidxn> i failed execute the binary compile by gcc, it says Permission denied
[08:32] <davidxn> but it runs successfully in adb shell
[08:40] <yoldovah> did all the knowledgeable people in here die ?  lol
[08:41] <seb128> mardy, hey, do you think you could commit those to g-c-c-signon trunk?
[08:41] <seb128> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/167546576/gnome-control-center-signon_0.1.7~%2B14.04.20140211.2-0ubuntu2_0.1.7~%2B14.04.20140211.2-0ubuntu3.diff.gz
[08:41] <seb128> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/169660217/gnome-control-center-signon_0.1.7~%2B14.04.20140211.2-0ubuntu3_0.1.7~%2B14.04.20140211.2-0ubuntu4.diff.gz
[08:41] <seb128> mardy, those were direct uploads to the archive, it would put trunk back in sync (I would do it but I don't have commit rights for the project)
[08:45] <mardy> seb128: sure, will do -- I guess I can commit directly, without a MP?
[08:45] <seb128> mardy, yes, you can since it's already in Ubuntu
[08:45] <seb128> mardy, thanks
[08:45] <seb128> mardy, one other question for you ;-)
[08:46] <mardy> seb128: :-)
[08:46] <seb128> mardy, libaccount-plugin-1.0-0 Recommends unity-control-center .... I'm about to do a mr to change that, would you prefer to add a | u-s-s-o-a or to demote the recommends to a suggest?
[08:46] <seb128> mardy, that current brings u-c-c on the unity8-desktop iso and we don't want it there
[08:47] <seb128> currently*
[08:51] <mardy> seb128: that recommends is technically correct; I think that the problem is probably on the plugins
[08:51] <mardy> seb128: because libaccount-plugin-1.0-0 should be installed on unity8
[08:51] <mardy> seb128: it's not needed there
[08:51] <seb128> mardy, should or shouldn't?
[08:51] <mardy> seb128: oops, should *not* be installed
[08:52] <mardy> seb128: it's gtk stuff
[08:53] <mardy> seb128: I guess that the correct solution would be to split all the account plugin packages into account-plugin-<provider>-data (installed in both unity7 and unity8) and account-plugin-<provider>-unity7
[08:54] <seb128> mardy, ok, libaccount-plugin-google and -oauth depends on it  and are both install
[08:54] <seb128> -google seems seeded, -oauth is a depends of account-plugin-evernote
[08:55] <seb128> install->installed
[08:55] <seb128> mardy, are those libaccount-plugin binaries work with the touch stack?
[08:55] <mardy> seb128: yes, actually also facebook, twitter and others need -oauth, not sure why there isn't a dependency there
[08:56] <mardy> seb128: libaccounts-plugin doesn't work with the touch stack, but the plugin packages (such as account-plugin-google) do
[08:56] <mardy> seb128: because they also ship qml files for touch
[08:57] <seb128> mardy, twitter has a depends on "libaccount-plugin ... | u-s-s-o-a"
[08:57] <mardy> seb128: right, this is probably the solution we agreed with kenvandine some time ago
[08:57] <seb128> should the oauth do the same then?
[08:58] <mardy> seb128: it was deemed that splitting the packages would not be worth
[08:58] <seb128> because from a ldd look, that .so depends on gdk
[08:58] <seb128> not sure why it's useful on unity8
[09:00] <mardy> seb128: I think that evernote and google should do the same as twitter
[09:00] <seb128> recommends on | u-s-s-o-a?
[09:00] <seb128> well depends rather
[09:00] <mardy> seb128: yes, with depends
[09:00] <seb128> mardy, ok, I'm going to mp changes for that, thanks!
[09:01] <mardy> seb128: thanks to you!
[09:39] <mamenyaka> is there a "Phablet Ports Administrators" member available to talk to? ogra_, dholbach, rsalveti
[09:40] <popey> mamenyaka: might want to ask a specific question and if someone can help they will
[09:41] <mamenyaka> popey: thank you, there is no specific question, I was just wondering if this "Ubuntu Touch port maintainers" teams are still alive
[09:42] <popey> they are
[09:42] <popey> very much so
[09:43] <mamenyaka> and what purpose do they serve?
[09:44] <mamenyaka> I have 4 teams, they were created to work with phablet-flash
[09:47] <popey> i dont know
[09:47] <popey> https://launchpad.net/~phablet-ports-admins is owned by dholbach
[09:56] <edwardoid> anyone is active?
[10:00] <popey> edwardoid: sure
[10:01] <edwardoid> hi ;) I have a question. How can I use JS libs in developing apps for Ubuntu Touch?
[10:10] <mamenyaka> popey: and what about 4.4.2 images?
[10:13] <yoldovah> im getting lots of errors hen using lunch command   like this one  :   cc: error: unrecognized command line option ‘-mfloat-abi=softfp’    how can this be solved ?
[11:21] <cwayne> mardy: heya, I've been having trouble adding an account on the last promoted image, any ideas?
[11:25] <popey> cwayne: what kind of account?
[11:25] <cwayne> popey: soundcloud.  the only thing i see in the logs is: Jun 18 02:08:03 ubuntu-phablet signond[3129]: ../../../../src/signond/signondaemon.cpp 388 init Failed to SUID root. Secure storage will not be available.
[11:26] <popey> oh, not tried soundcloud, sorry.
[11:37] <mardy> cwayne: that warning is harmless (and even wrong). What is the problem, exactly?
[11:37] <mardy> cwayne: the account creation fails?
[11:38] <cwayne> mardy: yeah, it brings me back to the accounts page, but none was added
[11:43] <mamenyaka> sergiusens: hi, do you have a moment? Are the Ubuntu Touch port maintainers teams still used for something?
[11:43] <mardy> cwayne: try pasting the full log, after setting the logging level to 2 in /etc/signond.conf (and killing signond)
[11:44] <mardy> cwayne: oh, and make sure to edit any sensitive info out of the syslog
[11:44] <ogra_> up to the team members
[11:44] <mamenyaka> ogra_: and what about the phablet-flash?
[11:44] <ogra_> ??
[11:45] <ogra_> not sure what you mean ... phablet-flash is depreecated since months
[11:45] <mamenyaka> ogra_: that's what I was going for
[11:45] <mamenyaka> the teams were created mainly for phablet-flash
[11:46] <ogra_> people should use rootstock-ng or provide a system-image server
[11:46] <mamenyaka> I have a 4.4.2 based port, so do I need a server to redistribute it?
[11:47] <ogra_> in any case we dont control the teams under port maintainers ... all we do is provide them the launchpad infrastructure for mailing lists, bug tracking etc
[11:47] <ogra_> no idea if they actually use it
[11:47] <ogra_> either a system-image server or set up a howto for using rootstock-ng
[11:48] <ogra_> where you can point users to ...
[11:48] <mamenyaka> ogra_: so then I can delete the lp:~pollux-image-dev/phablet-image-info/pollux branches in the maintainers team?
[11:48] <mamenyaka> ogra_: I have a how to on xda, but this system-image server sounds interesting
[11:48] <ogra_> no idea what that is
[11:48] <ogra_> i would ask the owner/last committer
[11:49] <mamenyaka> I am
[11:49] <mamenyaka> with a manifest.json for the phablet-flash
[11:49] <ogra_> ah
[11:49] <mamenyaka> with the device uri
[11:50] <mamenyaka> but since it's deprecated, i assume it's safe to get rid of
[11:50] <ogra_> i think Tassadaar has some experience with system-image ... he runs a community server
[11:50] <ogra_> you shoudl perhaps talk to him
[11:50] <mamenyaka> ok, thanks
[11:53] <popey> as if by magic
[11:54] <sergiusens> ogra_: if he comes back, tell him I intend to add community server support to ubuntu-device-flash as a 'community fallback' install
[11:55] <ogra_> sergiusens, there he is :)
[11:55] <mamenyaka> Tassadar: hi, do you have a moment?
[11:55] <Tassadar> depends on what you need
[11:56] <mamenyaka> Tassadar: just some info on a system-image server :)
[11:56] <Tassadar> okay, ask
[11:56] <mamenyaka> I have a 4.4.2 based port
[11:56] <mamenyaka> what do I need for the server?
[11:57] <Tassadar> https://www.stgraber.org/2014/02/11/your-own-ubuntu-touch-image-server/
[11:58] <Tassadar> I have mine set-up so that it builds the device-specific bits on my server and grabs the rootfs from ubuntu's s-i server
[11:58] <Tassadar> the basics should be described in that blog post
[12:01] <mamenyaka> and then how would you flash your device using the server?
[12:02] <sergiusens> Tassadar: you should be able to link direct (absolute paths) in the channel/device json
[12:02] <ogra_> using the --server arg for ubuntu-device-flash pointing to your server
[12:02] <sergiusens> Tassadar: saying that in case you want to avoid the ubuntu rootfs copying
[12:02] <Tassadar> sergiusens: I need to patch the rootfs
[12:03] <sergiusens> Tassadar: heh, I felt like having a deja vu when mentioning this :-P
[12:03] <Tassadar> yes)
[12:03] <mamenyaka> so ubuntu-device-flash and rootstock-ng do the same flashing?
[12:04] <sergiusens> rootstock is for custom builds
[12:04] <sergiusens> but more of a development focus
[12:04] <sergiusens> device flash and system server for distribution
[12:06] <ogra_> sergiusens, rootstock is for manual installs too
[12:06] <mamenyaka> "you need a valid SSL certificate" is this still valid?
[12:07] <Tassadar> no
[12:07] <Tassadar> it can handle http now
[12:07] <Tassadar> sergiusens: also, the rootfs would be signed by different gpg key
[12:07] <Tassadar> so I don't think that would've work
[12:08] <sergiusens> ah, right, you don't have the keys
[12:09] <Mirv> oSoMoN: new Oxide seems to rock on Qt 5.3 too :) I'd say that blocker is now fixed.
[12:09] <cwayne> mardy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7663375/
[12:10] <oSoMoN> Mirv, I wasn’t worried about it, but thanks for the confirmation :)
[12:10] <Mirv> thanks chrisccoulson also for that
[12:10] <Mirv> oSoMoN: I'm always worried about everything :)
[12:10] <mamenyaka> okay, thank you Tassadar
[12:20] <oSoMoN> Mirv, when do you think you will land the Qt5.3 silo?
[12:21] <Mirv> oSoMoN: today? :)
[12:21] <Mirv> oSoMoN: we have a meeting in 40 minutes, hopefully we'll have a plan after that. there's only 1 certainly known blocker bug, that is that the gallery-app's header is broken
[12:22] <oSoMoN> Mirv, sounds good, I’m asking because of silo 7 that also contains webbrowser-app, hopefully I can land it in the next hour, so we’ll need to sync up on that
[12:23] <Mirv> oSoMoN: ok. webbrowser-app is not a big problem as it's easy and relatively quick to rebuild.
[12:42] <mdeslaur> ogra_: hey, any idea why the lightdm.override file in the touch images no longer starts on runlevel?
[12:42] <mdeslaur> ogra_: I'm trying to put runlevel back in, but it's making it fail for some reason
[12:45] <mardy> cwayne: it seems that the authentication succeeded, but then for some reason the account got deleted
[12:45] <mardy> cwayne: where is the code for the plugin?
[12:46] <cwayne> mardy: lp:~jamesh/unity-scope-soundcloud/go-port
[12:55] <dobey> lol
[12:55] <dobey> youtube webapp clearly says in the description that it's a webapp, and someone rated it 1 star with "this sucks, it's a web app"
[12:56] <mardy> cwayne: did you modify the access-token from the syslog, before pasting it?
[12:56] <cwayne> mardy: nope
[12:57] <mardy> cwayne: if I append that to "https://api.soundcloud.com/me?access_token=" and I try to open it in the browser, it fails
[12:57] <mardy> cwayne: that's why the account creation fails
[12:57] <mardy> cwayne: this code is failing: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~jamesh/unity-scope-soundcloud/go-port/view/head:/accounts/soundcloud/Main.qml
[12:58] <cwayne> blargh
[13:03] <cwayne> mardy: i wonder i i just have a blank Main.qml if it'd create the account but not populate the displayname
[13:06] <mardy> cwayne: not blank, but you can remove the whole completeCreation function
[13:06] <cwayne> mardy: i meant blank as in like what twitter has
[13:10] <dobey> hmm, youtube is weird on image 50. can't play videos on youtube.com in browser or webapp, but they play ok embedded in g+
[13:14] <cyphermox> who can I talk to for suggested changes to the ListItems in the UI toolkit? I'd basically need a Subtitled item where I can put the subText at the right edge rather than under the main text, and where I can add a control property.
[13:15] <Jazzcat> Hi Folks, I'm trying to get ssh working over my wifi and was hoping someone might have an idea. I've run "sudo service ssh start" and used "touch /userdata/.writable_image" to enable a password change in case it was a requirement. I've tested from 2 machines
[13:15] <ogra_> mdeslaur, hmm, on a real device ?
[13:15] <mdeslaur> ogra_: I'm looking at the emulator currently
[13:15] <Jazzcat> I get "Permission denied (publickey)."
[13:15] <mdeslaur> ogra_: is it different on a real device? /me looks
[13:16] <Jazzcat> nexus 5
[13:16] <ogra_> mdeslaur, we dropped it because it caused the emulator to fail (and because it costs 2 second boot time to wait for runlevel for no apparent reason)
[13:17] <ogra_> mdeslaur, why do you want to add it back ?
[13:17] <mardy> cwayne: yes, that would work
[13:17] <mdeslaur> ogra_: because our upstart apparmor job is going to be start on starting runlevel
[13:18] <ogra_> ugh
[13:18] <mdeslaur> yeah
[13:18] <ogra_> that will add several seconds to the boot again
[13:18] <ogra_> why does it need to start on runlevel ?
[13:18] <mdeslaur> we haven't found another place to put it
[13:19] <mdeslaur> yet
[13:19]  * ogra_ wouldnt mind to simply add a "on started apparmor-foo" to our override ... but if that means to wait for runlevel *and* apparmor ...
[13:19] <mdeslaur> ogra_: I tried that, and it didn't work
[13:19] <ogra_> weird
[13:19] <mdeslaur> I can't figure out why lightdm is finicky on the emulator
[13:20] <mdeslaur> like, why is it failing if I add runlevel back?
[13:20] <ogra_> i wish i could tell you :)
[13:20] <ogra_> i think rsalveti took a look, couldnt find any reason and gave up in the end
[13:21] <ogra_> since dropping it gave us good benefit in boot time anyway
[13:21] <mdeslaur> ok
[13:22] <cwayne> mardy: thanks, i was able to at least get the account added
[13:23] <cwayne> still no luck working with the scope though...
[13:24] <mardy> cwayne: maybe they changed their APIs, or for some reason are returning an invalid access token?
[13:25] <cwayne> mardy: nah, i can do account-console login and have it be happy
[13:25] <cwayne> oh i wonder if it's cus there's no app-access thingy for this scope
[13:28] <Jazzcat> I haven't been able to find much online other than this http://askubuntu.com/questions/348714/ubuntu-touch-apt-get-install-openssh-server-error
[13:29] <dholbach> ricmm, have ever seen anything like this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7663604/ (crash of 'ubuntu-sdk' on startup)
[13:30] <dholbach> ricmm, it says this in the console http://paste.ubuntu.com/7663650/ - could it be that it's looking for /etc/ubuntu-platform-api/application.conf for some reason? (it's not there and not installed by the package)
[13:32] <boiko> dednick: https://code.launchpad.net/~boiko/telephony-service/active_call_indicator/+merge/223556
[13:32] <boiko> dednick: sorry it took so long
[13:33] <boiko> dednick: you should check this property only when dialer-app is in focus though, when it is in background or closed, you should still rely on the value of hasCalls
[13:38] <dednick> boiko: ta
[13:39] <boiko> dednick: I will ask tiago to review it, I'll let you know once this is merged
[13:39] <dednick> boiko: about the "touch to open dialer", should I be using app-launch for that?
[13:40] <Jazzcat> brb
[13:40] <boiko> dednick: I think you can launch dialer:///?view=liveCall or something like that
[13:40] <dednick> boiko: ok, i'll take a look into it
[13:41] <boiko> dednick: I just need to check how to register that URI for dialer first :)
[13:41] <dholbach> ricmm, zbenjamin, bzoltan: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtcreator/+bug/1331470
[13:42] <zbenjamin> dholbach: that link is broken
[13:42] <ricmm> the link is broken, but yes, the issue is known
[13:43] <ricmm> I'm currently working on a good solution for it
[13:43] <ricmm> it happens when you have qtcreator and the unity8-desktop-session-mir installed in parallel
[13:43] <ricmm> because it bring in qtubuntu-sensors, and for some reason qtcreator opens that up
[13:43] <ricmm> zbenjamin: does qtcreator load every plugin available on the system?
[13:43] <zbenjamin> ricmm: seems the webview is opening that
[13:44] <zbenjamin> ricmm: this doesn't seem to be triiggered by QtC itself but by the webview used in qtc
[13:45] <ricmm> ah, interesting
[13:45] <zbenjamin> ricmm: http://code.woboq.org/qt5/qtwebkit/Source/WebKit/qt/WidgetApi/qwebframe.cpp.html#_ZN9QWebFrameC1EP8QWebPage
[13:46] <dholbach> zbenjamin, ricmm - the bug is currently private, let me add you to it
[13:46] <zbenjamin> ricmm: seems line 228 is loading the plugin
[13:51] <dednick> boiko: could you add a method on the TelepathyHelper for getting the callIndicatorVisible property?
[13:52] <boiko> dednick: there is: callManager.callIndicatorVisible
[13:52] <dednick> boiko: ah! ok, thanks!
[13:52] <boiko> dednick: callManager is available if you import Ubuntu.Telephony
[13:52] <ricmm> zbenjamin: is this something that can be toggle? or is it too deep in qtwebkit
[13:52] <ricmm> anyways, the underlying problem comes from having qtubuntu-sensors in the system
[13:52] <ricmm> which it will then try to open
[13:54] <mdeslaur> ogra_: ok, I think I'll add an apparmor.override to ubuntu-touch-session that does a start on starting lightdm
[13:54] <ogra_> sounds good
[13:55] <dholbach> ricmm, so if you have ubuntu-sdk and something like unity8-desktop-session-mir installed the problem is going to come up?
[13:55] <ogra_> rsalveti, did you ever research further why starting lightdm on runlevel hung the emulator ?
[13:56] <ricmm> dholbach: yes, I'm trying to work a way to fix it without removing qtubuntu-sensors
[13:56] <ricmm> dholbach: but the quick way to make it work, is have qtubuntu-sensors removed
[13:56] <dholbach> excellent, thanks a lot
[13:56] <ricmm> have you received many reports from the community?
[13:57] <dholbach> ricmm, no... it just happened to me right now
[13:58] <ricmm> ok
[13:59] <mterry> MacSlow, heyo!  when we demoed the boot animation to some design people in Malta, they commented that it was too small on manta and it wasn't vertically centered -- do you have time to fix such issues?
[14:00] <Jazzcat14736251> I'm trying to get ssh working over wifi to my Nexus 5 (running ubuntu touch via multirom) and was hoping someone might have an idea. I've run "sudo service ssh start" and used "touch /userdata/.writable_image" to enable a password change in case it was a requirement. I've tested from 2 machines
[14:00] <zbenjamin> ricmm: i heared it one time from someone else but could not reproduce
[14:01] <zbenjamin> but i cannot remember who it was
[14:02] <Jazzcat14736251> I get permission denied: public key
[14:03] <ogra_> Jazzcat14736251, we dont support password auth, you need to copy yoour ssh key in place via adb
[14:04] <Jazzcat14736251> ok, thank you. I wasn't aware that this had changed. It did work previously. Thank you for your assistance :)
[14:05] <ogra_> yes, it used to work, but made our security team unhappy :)
[14:06] <Jazzcat14736251> ah, that makes sense. Cheers :)
[14:13] <MacSlow> mterry, hm... it's GU-based and using the values we got from Design... on mako and manta. I can look into it on Friday.
[14:14] <mterry> MacSlow, thanks
[14:14] <MacSlow> mterry, did we get any information of how much bigger it's meant to be? I can't recall the logo being not centered.
[14:16] <mterry> MacSlow, I can see it not being vertically centered on mako
[14:16] <mterry> MacSlow, I can't recall seeing it on manta, but it looked like it was mako's size on manta
[14:31] <dholbach> zbenjamin, ricmm: 1331470 was just closed, because the retracer couldn't get a complete backtrace - I don't know... do you need any more info from me on this?
[14:33] <mterry> ogra_, if there is a seed change, does that just ignore CI?
[14:33] <zbenjamin> dholbach:  at least i don't need more infos on that
[14:34] <ogra_> mterry, we usually do direct uploads, but note that -meta is currently blocked by lool adding a framework entry, you will have to wait til he is done
[14:34] <zbenjamin> dholbach: also i had the feeling ricmm knows already about the problem and where its coming from
[14:34] <dholbach> ok excellent, thanks
[14:34] <mterry> ogra_, not in a rush
[14:34] <dholbach> ricmm, shall I reopen the bug or do we have another one already?
[14:35] <ricmm> dholbach: no need
[14:35] <ricmm> dholbach: can you test silo 015 for me please?
[14:36] <ricmm> as soon as its done publishing
[14:36] <Jazzcat14736251_> Apologies if this is too far off topic. It may be my ignorance about ssh keys. I ran: ssh-keygen -t rsa -C "myemailaddress@gmail.com"
[14:37] <Jazzcat14736251_> then adb push ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub /home/phablet/.ssh/known_hosts
[14:37] <ogra_> err
[14:37] <ogra_> why did you rename the key to known_hosts ?
[14:37] <sergiusens> authorized_keys
[14:37] <ogra_> right
[14:37] <dholbach> ricmm, hum... I don't quite know what to do - how do I get stuff from silo 015 for testing? O:-)
[14:38] <sergiusens> using phablet-shell once should probably setup things for you or qtcreator connect to device
[14:38] <ogra_> dholbach, make your image writable, pull the debs and install them :)
[14:38] <Jazzcat14736251_> ah, cool ty.
[14:38] <sergiusens> dholbach: citrain-push --help is your friend :-)
[14:39] <ogra_> if you have the phablet-citools package installed :)
[14:39] <dholbach> sergiusens, I never used that tool and had no idea it existed
[14:40] <ricmm> dholbach: add https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/landing-015/ to the image
[14:40] <ricmm> to the device I mean
[14:40] <dholbach> ogra_, is this in a special ppa?
[14:40] <ricmm> and test that deb from there
[14:40] <ogra_> dholbach, phablet-tools PPA
[14:40] <ricmm> or yea, better ogra's instructions
[14:40] <ricmm> mines are more legacy
[14:40] <sergiusens> ricmm: citrain-push does all that for you
[14:40] <Jazzcat14736251_> so hopefully I've got this right now: adb push ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub /home/phablet/.ssh/authorized_keys
[14:40] <ricmm> right right sorry
[14:40] <sergiusens> ricmm: citrain-push device-upgrade 15
[14:40] <ogra_> dholbach, the package name is actually phablet-tools-citrain, sorry
[14:41] <dholbach> ricmm, I used your old school method - test worked out fine!
[14:41] <dholbach> ubuntu-sdk starts up fine
[14:42] <dholbach> sergiusens, ogra_: it was something to test on my desktop
[14:42] <ogra_> oh, ok
[14:42] <ogra_> weird stuff these desktop things ...
[14:42] <ricmm> but we need to test on device too
[14:42] <ogra_> :P
[14:42] <sergiusens> dholbach: citrain-push device-upgrade 15
[14:43] <ricmm> to make sure things dont break there
[14:43] <ricmm> dholbach: can you test that too perhaps?
[14:43] <sergiusens> dholbach: and after to citrain-push host-purge 15
[14:43] <dholbach> ricmm, I have a meeting coming up in a bit - it could take me a bit longer to get back to you
[14:44] <brendand> is there any guide on how to use mirscreencast to record a video of the phone? it's not exactly self explanatory
[14:44] <ricmm> ok
[14:45] <ogra_> brendand, it is pretty painful  .... i started a phablet-screenrecord tool a while ago but thats still far from being finished ...
[14:47] <brendand> ogra_, like what's that Failed to connect thing about?
[14:47] <ogra_> brendand, you can use multiple frames via the -n option of mirscreencast (note that gets gigantically huge)
[14:47] <ogra_> brendand, and then something like: avconv -f rawvideo -pix_fmt rgba -s 1200x1920 -framerate 24 -i mirscreencast-raw-video.rgba -vcodec h264 myvideo.mp4
[14:48] <ogra_> brendand, failed to connect ?
[14:48] <ogra_> brendand, oh
[14:48] <ogra_> use -m /run/mir_socket
[15:00] <vthompson> balloons, well, I was going through and was going to start seeing what could be done to fix the code you had for backing this up... so I ran a test to see what errors I'd get. I forgot that it was blowing away ~/. Fun times
[15:01] <balloons> vthompson, uh-oh
[15:01] <vthompson> not too big of a deal. I assume reflashing w/o boot strap would be the best way to get /home/phablet back in shape?
[15:05] <vthompson> balloons, this is what was output for the test: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7664112/
[15:06] <balloons> vthompson, ohh on the device..whew, that's much easier then yay
[15:07] <rsalveti> ogra_: that was an upstart bug afaik
[15:07] <rsalveti> ogra_: but don't think that's fixed
[15:07] <ogra_> mdeslaur, ^^^^
[15:07] <balloons> vthompson, you simply straight restored the old code I had>/
[15:07] <ogra_> rsalveti, no, obviously not, else it would have worked for mdeslaur
[15:07] <vthompson> balloons, yep. Going to start debugging now
[15:08] <mdeslaur> rsalveti, ogra_: oh, interesting
[15:08] <mdeslaur> thanks
[15:08] <balloons> vthompson, I do wonder about it.. ok, I'll let you have at it for a bit
[15:08] <rsalveti> mdeslaur: ogra_: bug 1318681
[15:09] <mdeslaur> thanks!
[15:10] <mdeslaur> so, the current image seems broken in the emulator
[15:10] <mdeslaur> is there a known-good one?
[15:11] <ogra_> hmm, it shouldnt be broken
[15:11] <ogra_> i think you can use --revision to go backwards in versions
[15:13] <rsalveti> mdeslaur: hm, let me check
[15:13] <rsalveti> I know people are usually not testing the emulator before promoting the images
[15:13] <rsalveti> which is bad
[15:14] <rsalveti> so it could be broken for a few days without notice
[15:14] <ogra_> davmor2, ^^^^
[15:14] <mdeslaur> it's slow as molasses, and the scopes don't seem to be working
[15:14] <ogra_> davmor2, can we do a quick "it boots" test of the emulator for future promotions ?
[15:14] <rsalveti> mdeslaur: can you check if /dev/kvm is available in your host?
[15:14] <rsalveti> it shouldn't be slow (the x86 one)
[15:15] <rsalveti> unless kvm is not available
[15:15] <mdeslaur> rsalveti: my old image boots fine
[15:15] <rsalveti> oh, ok
[15:15] <rsalveti> downloading latest and will check
[15:15] <ogra_> are you sure you use the x86 variant ? :)
[15:15] <mdeslaur> thanks
[15:15] <davmor2> ogra_: no I can't run the emulator it hates my gfx card :)
[15:15] <mdeslaur> ah, frak
[15:15] <mdeslaur> ogra_: d'oh
[15:16] <ogra_> heh
[15:16] <ogra_> davmor2, expense a new one ;)
[15:16] <mdeslaur> rsalveti: my bad
[15:17] <davmor2> ogra_: this is my machine and I like it the way it is thanks :P   I can try and rebuild it on my laptop but that is on utopic so I don't know how much flux that might cause
[15:18] <ogra_> utopic would be better actually
[15:18] <ogra_> so we see the emulator itself still works as well
[15:25] <davmor2> rsalveti: how do I update the emulator Updates says there aren't any
[15:29] <mdeslaur> ogra_, rsalveti: apps scope still seems broken for me, even with i386 emulator
[15:30] <rsalveti> davmor2: create a new instance
[15:30] <rsalveti> just before promoting something, run emulator create & run and see if it works fine
[15:31] <rsalveti> mdeslaur: does it show up after doing a search?
[15:31] <mdeslaur> rsalveti: yes
[15:31] <mdeslaur> oh, that was a known issue, I remember now
[15:31] <mdeslaur> geez, sorry for all the noise today
[15:39] <oSoMoN> Mirv, is Qt 5.3 close to landing?
[15:39] <cwayne> ogra_: hey, any chance of getting ubuntu-touch-session in today?
[15:39] <ogra_> oSoMoN, there was an email ...
[15:40] <ogra_> cwayne, i'll try to ... i know we are short on silos but i guess this one is small and quick anyway
[15:40] <ogra_> cwayne, will ping yoou once it is ready
[15:40] <oSoMoN> ogra_, I know, I just wanted a finer-grained ETA :)
[15:40] <ogra_> heh
[15:47] <ogra_> stgraber, again ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/7664283/
[15:47] <ogra_> (re-running like last time)
[15:55] <ogra_> stgraber, bah, the re-run also failed http://paste.ubuntu.com/7664307/
[15:55] <sil2100> Wellark: hi! Did you have any time to look at the indicator-network crasher?
[15:59] <stgraber> ogra_: looking
[15:59] <ogra_> stgraber, note, i triggered a third run
[15:59] <ogra_> (running atm)
[16:00] <stgraber> ogra_: ok, killed yours
[16:00] <ogra_> noticed :)
[16:02] <stgraber> ogra_: ok, so the problem appears to be with the locking... I can run two copy-images concurently, same thing with import-images...
[16:02] <stgraber> ogra_: and if import-images runs between the time copy-image starts and ends, orphan files get removed, which causes that error
[16:03] <ogra_> ah, k
[16:03] <stgraber> ogra_: figuring out what's wrong with the lock now because that clearly used to work...
[16:03] <ogra_> right, must have chnaged recently
[16:09] <vthompson> balloons, Ok, I've pushed an update that is no longer destructive
[16:09] <vthompson> the main issue there was that the backing up and restoring was not being done properly
[16:10] <balloons> vthompson, obviously :-)
[16:10] <vthompson> also, I made a change to make ~/Music after we move it over.
[16:10] <vthompson> :)
[16:10] <vthompson> you were using dirname instead of basename for the name of the backed up folder
[16:11] <balloons> awesome.. and it works then?
[16:11] <vthompson> I also changed it so we do attempt to patch mediascanner, but the daemon is running so I might revert that and add a sleep to ensure the database is set up
[16:11] <vthompson> No, sadly there is still something going on that is using my normal music db when it runs
[16:12] <balloons> vthompson, hehe.. I figured as much.
[16:12] <balloons> I'm thinking whatever is causing patching to not work also means backup and restore won't work
[16:13] <vthompson> possible, but that seems very odd
[16:13] <vthompson> but would account for what I'm seeing
[16:13] <vthompson> maybe it takes time for the modified db to be seen by the plugin due to dbus
[16:15] <stgraber> cdimage@nusakan:/srv/system-image.ubuntu.com/bin$ ./import-images -vvv
[16:15] <stgraber> 2014-06-18 16:15:30,243 INFO Something else holds the global lock. exiting.
[16:15] <stgraber> ogra_: fixed ^
[16:15] <stgraber> copy-image running now
[16:15] <ogra_> stgraber, thanks !
[16:22] <dednick> boiko: is there a dialer-app counter-part to that MP which makes use of the new property? or is that still to be done?
[16:22] <boiko> dednick: still to be done
[16:24] <dednick> boiko: i'm wondering if the property should be set through requests? so that other apps can request that it's visible. or actually, that it's reverse logic. It should always be visible unless something requests it to not be.
[16:24] <dednick> ie. hasCalls() && !mCallIndicatorVisible;
[16:25] <dednick> well, not that, but you probably get my meaning.
[16:25] <boiko> dednick: the problem is if the application dies before setting it to be visible again
[16:26] <yoldovah> can someone help me with these errors http://pastebin.com/U1SJRNMd :
[16:27] <vthompson> balloons, I'm at a loss. Adding time to allow things to settle doesn't seem to help
[16:28] <davmor2> rsalveti: the networking seems really slow on i386 emulator
[16:30] <vthompson> balloons, what if we set up the image such that the test songs were in ~/Music by default? We'd also need some manual or automated way to setup our device beforehand apart from running AP
[16:30] <stgraber> ogra_: copy done
[16:30] <davmor2> rsalveti: is there a way to trigger a flick on the emulator.  For example try changing the day in the emulator on the weather app
[16:30] <ogra_> stgraber, since a while :)
[16:31] <ogra_> stgraber, thanks
[16:31] <stgraber> ogra_: yeah, I wasn't looking at that shell too closely
[16:31] <ogra_> :)
[16:31] <stgraber> ogra_: btw, if you can pass -vvv if you want to see what's actually going on when doing those copies
[16:31] <ogra_> stgraber, ok, will do next time
[16:33] <yoldovah> can someone help me with these errors http://pastebin.com/U1SJRNMd :
[16:33] <balloons> vthompson, yea.. technically we could simply copy the songs directly into music as the devices are empty
[16:34] <mterry_> ogra_, your favorite thing!  https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/ubuntu-touch-session/boot-animation/+merge/223609
[16:34] <balloons> vthompson, although it's annoying to hear, I'm not surprised backup/restore doesn't work. Something larger is at play
[16:34] <ogra_> mterry_, yeah ! ... cwayne is before you in my queue for u-t-s though :)
[16:35] <ogra_> though i wonder if i couldnt just land both together ... they are zero risk
[16:35] <rsalveti> davmor2: yeah, it seems this is a regression
[16:35] <rsalveti> davmor2: investigating that
[16:36] <mterry_> ogra_, nothing is zero risk!  :)
[16:36] <rsalveti> davmor2: well, guess you could use autopilot for that
[16:36] <ogra_> close to :)
[16:37] <mterry_> ogra_, you already have a silo for the cwayne thing?
[16:37] <ogra_> mterry_, not yet ...
[16:38] <mterry_> ogra_, your call on together or separate -- both quick landings I hope, so not a big deal regardless
[16:38] <ogra_> right
[16:40] <vthompson> balloons, the tests run as root right? Maybe the answer is as simple as starting and stopping the mediascanner2 service? It's a user upstart job though
[16:42] <balloons> vthompson, the tests run as the phablet user
[16:42] <balloons> vthompson, yes we could completely stop the service right.. replace the db and music should use it or ?
[16:54] <ogra_> popey, davmor2, ugh, whats up with the browser fonts in 87 ?
[16:55] <ogra_> many of my webapps have suddnely a different font
[16:56] <davmor2> ogra_: ah pass then I'm looking at planet.ubuntu.com and it's no different
[16:56] <davmor2> ogra_: did the compositing part of the browser land yet that might explain it
[16:56] <ogra_> i have some that used to use the ubuntu font and now use something like "helvetica/arial" from what i see
[16:57] <ogra_> probably thats right and was wrong before though ... not sure what the page is supposed to use actually
[16:57] <vthompson> balloons, there must be some sort of dbus contention when the tests are running. When I start and stop the service during the test run I see in the ms2 log that it is adding the test files.
[16:58] <vthompson> balloons, so I only see 2 solutions 1) ship with the test songs in ~/Music and make a small script that we'd use before testing to do the backup of ~/Music, or 2) we disable all the tests
[16:59] <vthompson> also, I think we need to assess why Jenkins isn't working. We've only been focusing on the click test changes
[17:00] <Wellark> sil2100: there is a dbus-cpp branch that should fix the crash, but we are basically trying to figure out what to do with that branch as it breaks dbus-cpp ABI
[17:00] <Wellark> I will try tomorrow to split the branch in a way that we can prevent indictor-network from crashing without breaking dbus-cpp ABI
[17:01] <Wellark> or I need to work around the dbus-cpp crash inside indicator-network
[17:02] <dobey> Wellark: just do what gcc does in that case… "abi? what's abi?"
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[17:03] <Wellark> dobey: :))
[17:04] <rsalveti> davmor2: did you test on trusty or utopic?
[17:04] <rsalveti> as your host
[17:05] <davmor2> rsalveti: utopic
[17:05] <rsalveti> davmor2: thanks
[17:06] <davmor2> rsalveti: just rebuilding now to see how 87 does
[17:06] <sil2100> Wellark: thanks! During the meeting we decided to anyway 'whitelist' the issue, but it's good to hear a fix is near ;)
[17:08] <rsalveti> davmor2: also got that with 60
[17:08] <rsalveti> so I wonder if it's something with the host
[17:08] <rsalveti> ogra_: are you using trusty?
[17:09] <ogra_> on my laptop
[17:09] <rsalveti> yes
[17:09] <davmor2> rsalveti: I can't test on trusty it hates my AMD gfx card
[17:10] <davmor2> rsalveti: unless you fixed that :)
[17:10] <rsalveti> ogra_: if so, can you run the emulator (latest image) and see if network is working properly in there
[17:10] <rsalveti> davmor2: not yet
[17:10] <rsalveti> hard to fix broken blobs
[17:11] <davmor2> rsalveti: you're just not trying ;)
[17:13] <ogra_> it is downloading the image ... takes 30min over my line ...
[17:14] <davmor2> ogra_: 30mins ouch
[17:15] <ogra_> 2MBit ... what can i say
[17:16] <davmor2> ogra_: 60MBit here so just a little faster
[17:22] <davmor2> rsalveti: so 87 opens up for me
[17:23] <rsalveti> davmor2: right, it opens up fine here as well, just not sure why network is so slow
[17:24] <yoldovah> can someone help me with these errors http://pastebin.com/U1SJRNMd :
[17:24] <davmor2> rsalveti: man that is slow
[17:27] <davmor2> rsalveti: This must be what it's like to be on ogra_ 's connection
[17:27] <ogra_> heh
[17:27] <rsalveti> davmor2: ogra_: tested 50, 60, 70, 80, all had slow network
[17:27] <rsalveti> so I believe this is host-side
[17:27] <rsalveti> testing on trusty should tell us that
[17:27] <davmor2> rsalveti: could be it would make more sense
[17:32] <yoldovah> i don’t understand why there is a support channel here where questions aren’t even acknowledged   d[O.o]b
[17:34] <ogra_> rsalveti, davmor2, so 87 on trusty runs fine here
[17:35] <ogra_> hmm, but the browser doesnt work
[17:36] <ogra_> yeah, seems like i have no network at all here
[17:37] <ogra_> hmm, and no terminal app
[17:41] <rsalveti> ogra_: right, the lack of network is what I'm trying to understand now
[17:42] <rsalveti> I know it was working before, but can't get any image to work fine here atm
[17:42] <rsalveti> I imagine this could also be host related
[17:42] <yoldovah> i think ubuntu has the very worst support team lol
[17:42] <yoldovah> ignorant
[17:43] <ogra_> rsalveti, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7664802/
[17:43] <ogra_> thats what i have in syslog when the emulator starts (on the host)
[17:43] <rsalveti> hm weird
[17:46] <rsalveti> ogra_: davmor2: hm, it works fine after disabling nm
[17:46] <rsalveti> inside the emulator
[17:47] <ogra_> not here
[17:47] <rsalveti> ogra_: disable the network-manager upstart job inside the emulator and restart it
[17:47] <rsalveti> you'll see just eth0 then
[17:47] <ogra_> ah, k
[17:47] <rsalveti> and not a bunch of extra interfaces
[17:48] <ogra_> i only stopped nm
[17:51] <ogra_> rsalveti, doesnt work here
[17:51] <ogra_> i cant ping the DNS server
[17:51] <rsalveti> ogra_: ping doesn't work
[17:51] <rsalveti> ogra_: try apt-get update
[17:51] <rsalveti> or browser
[17:52] <ogra_> Could not resolve 'archive.ubuntu.com'
[17:52] <ogra_> i tried browser first
[17:52] <ogra_> why would ping not work ? i can definitely ping my own IP
[17:53] <ogra_> rsalveti, i can also ping the gateway
[17:53] <rsalveti> not sure, I just know it's not supposed to work :-)
[17:53] <rsalveti> weird
[17:53] <rsalveti> here it worked fine without nm
[17:54] <rsalveti> run ifconfig
[17:54] <rsalveti> I just had eth0
[17:54] <rsalveti> with nm I have 5 extra interfaces
[17:54] <ogra_> still doesnt work here and i think its the name resolution
[18:12] <rsalveti> hm, weird, will test it a bit more
[18:17] <ogra_> davmor2, the browser is scrolling very very stuttery for me here on 87 :(((
[18:18] <davmor2> ogra_: wonder if it is the same issue as on manta
[18:18] <ogra_> bah and fullscreen veideo worked everywhere but not in yourtube ... thats a shame
[18:20] <ogra_> ah, not everywhere ... but on some sites
[18:26] <dobey> ogra_: any ideas about how to further debug the screen unblank not working? logcat -d didn't show any errors when it failed :(
[18:30] <ogra_> dobey, not really ... check logs ...
[18:30] <ogra_> (syslog and the unity8 log in ~/.cache/upstart/)
[18:31] <dobey> hmm, ok. i'll update again and try that, thanks
[18:41] <AlbertA> Laney: could you review https://code.launchpad.net/~albaguirre/indicator-power/use-new-brightness-dbus-interface/+merge/223339
[18:44] <Aizen> Hello. Can someone elaborate this line mentioned in the porting guide "Make sure you have proper permissions in the ramdisk and /init can start". I'm pretty sure init is not starting in my case :(
[18:47] <Aizen> I checked the /proc/last_kmsg but found nothing useful. Only "Kernel panic- not syncing".
[18:51] <Aizen> Anyone can give me a possible solution ?
[18:58] <ogra_> Aizen, are you sure you even get that far ?
[18:59] <ogra_> (the ubuntu ramdisk has proper permissions by default, not sure what that sentence refers to
[18:59] <ogra_> )
[19:02] <Aizen> ogra_, thanks for the reply. My device just shows boot logo and then restarts. I added some echo statements in the init script to check if it's printed to kmsg. I also tried to light up the led. Nothing worked. So it's possible that kernel fails to start init.
[19:03] <ogra_> well, /init is just a shell script
[19:04] <ogra_> did you try putting some echo at the top somewhere ?
[19:04] <ogra_> right after it mounts /proc
[19:04] <mhall119> jhodapp: is there a way to embed a YouTube video in a QML app, without putting it inside a WebView?
[19:05] <mhall119> or open it in the media-player directly, instead of embedding?
[19:05] <Aizen> ogra_, yes. I tried echo "something" to /dev/kmsg and to /proc/kmsg. Nothing worked :(
[19:05] <ogra_> at the very top of the init script ?
[19:06] <Aizen> right after mounting proc and sysfs
[19:06] <Aizen> and dev
[19:06] <ogra_> (though if it fails it should drop you into adb)
[19:06] <ogra_> right, so then i would suspect your kernel is missing something
[19:06] <jhodapp> mhall119: you could use the MediaPlayer QML object, but that's not playing those videos properly yet from my understanding
[19:06] <ogra_> i,e, not even properly unpacking the ramdisk
[19:07] <ogra_> check your kernel messages
[19:07] <jhodapp> mhall119: check with bfiller's team though, they were working on a generic media playback QML component that could be reused
[19:08] <Aizen> ogra_, I thought kmsg provides the kernel output
[19:08] <Aizen> is there other way?
[19:08] <Aizen> Ohh, kernel is unpacking the ramdisk successfully. I checked
[19:08] <ogra_> Aizen, no, thats what i mean ... check if there are any errors with unpacking the ramdisk etc ... literally read it from the top
[19:09] <ogra_> if it does that it will also execute the /init script
[19:09] <ogra_> there must be something before that breaks it
[19:09] <mhall119> bfiller: ping regarding re-usable media-player component that jhodapp mentioned
[19:10] <bfiller> mhall119: we don't have it yet, probably won't make it for rtm
[19:10] <ogra_> it might be unpacking but your kernel has a size limit set for example ... that way you could end up with a corrupt unpacked ramdisk
[19:10] <bfiller> mhall119: but code to do playback is quite simple
[19:10] <Aizen> ogra_, Strange problem :(. I also use recovery this way (by unpacking). But recovery boots fine.
[19:10] <bfiller> jhodapp: MediaPlayer qml component is working now
[19:11] <bfiller> mhall119: look at gallery code for video playback or any qtmultimedia example
[19:11] <jhodapp> bfiller: with YouTube videos?
[19:11] <ogra_> Aizen, you mean you dont use a boot.img on your phone ?
[19:11] <mhall119> jhodapp: bfiller: is http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-14.10/QtMultimedia.MediaPlayer/ the component you're both talking about?
[19:11] <bfiller> jhodapp: havne't tried that
[19:11] <bfiller> mhall119: yes
[19:12] <mhall119> bfiller: thanks, I'll give it a try
[19:12] <jhodapp> thanks bfiller
[19:12] <bfiller> jhodapp: we're using it for local playback
[19:12] <mhall119> bfiller: and I can just give it a youtube url?
[19:12] <bfiller> mhall119: that I don't know, it works for file urls
[19:12] <jhodapp> bfiller: cool
[19:12] <mhall119> oh, yeah, I'm specifically wanting to use youtube
[19:12] <jhodapp> mhall119: only one way to find out :)
[19:13] <bfiller> mhall119: do you have a url to actual video? didn't know we could get those links easily
[19:13] <Aizen> ogra_, yes. We use a custom init script and two ramdisk in the sbin folder. Init script checks if we press any button during boot. If we did, it unpacks the recovery ramdisk, else the default ramdisk.
[19:13] <mhall119> bfiller: I think so, looking at a youtube channel's RSS feed
[19:14] <Aizen> If I press button, recovery boots fine. But If I don't, it should boot ubuntu ramdisk. That's where the problem occurs
[19:14] <ogra_> hmm, that could perhaps cause issues, not sure ... quite an unusual setup
[19:14] <jhodapp> bfiller: mhall119: there's a trick to getting that URL...I've figured it out prior but forget right now
[19:14] <mhall119> jhodapp: do I have to construct a special URL using the video ID?
[19:15] <jhodapp> don't know
[19:16] <Aizen> ogra_, what's more strange is that I unpacked the boot.img and replace the ubuntu ramdisk with android ones and it boots fine into android :P
[19:16] <ogra_> i suspect you might be missing some kernel option ... but even then you should get to the start of init
[19:17] <ogra_> unless your unpacking mangles the content somehow
[19:20] <Aizen> ogra_, is there any specific changes required in kernel cmdline ?
[19:20] <ogra_> not for the ramdisk, no
[19:21] <ogra_> you need a proper console= option for when you get out of the ramdisk and into the actual rootfs
[19:21] <ogra_> but for entering it there is nothing specific required ...
[19:22] <ogra_> you might need some kkernel options so that udev can start etc ... but thats also only executed later in the ramdisk
[19:22] <Aizen> hmm, don't know how to solve this. last_kmsg gives no indication as to where's the problem :(
[19:24] <ogra_> try pulling it off the device and put it on paste.ubuntu.com
[19:26] <Aizen> ogra_, here it is, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7665226/
[19:31] <ogra_> Aizen, init=init ??
[19:31] <ogra_> where does that come from ?
[19:31] <ogra_> (on your cmdline)
[19:35] <Aizen> ogra_, it's taken from the stock kernel. I think it specifies which file to run first at boot.
[19:35] <ogra_> try dropping it
[19:35] <ogra_> or at least make it init=/init
[19:35] <Aizen> tried the second one. Didn't help.
[19:36] <Aizen> OK, we'll try with dropping
[19:36] <ogra_> the kernel usually iterates over /init /sbin/init and various other places ... i wouldnt specify it at all
[19:36] <Aizen> I'll check back with you after building
[19:41] <Tassadar> "noinitrd" might cause some problems too)
[19:49] <ogra_> Tassadar, oh, right !
[19:49] <ogra_> Aizen, ^^^
[19:49] <dobey> Tassadar: oh, hi!
[19:50] <dobey> Tassadar: are you running the latest builds on a hammerhead?
[19:58] <Aizen> ogra_, Tassadar, tried removing both. Still nothing. BTW, I'm only trying out boot.img first. I don't have ubuntu installed right now. I installed before for testing but same problem occurred then too.
[20:00] <ogra_> thats fine
[20:00] <symin> what is the difference between all the different ubuntu-touch channels? ubuntu-touch/utopic ubuntu-touch/utopic-proposed etc ?
[20:00] <ogra_> it will not find a rootfs and drop you into an adb shell
[20:00] <ogra_> symin, you only want devel or stable ... ignore the others
[20:01] <ogra_> well, you actually only want devel :)
[20:01] <ogra_> stable is old stuff
[20:05] <symin> ogra_, cant find devel, there is utopic, utopic-proposed-customized-de cant see the rest but i assume devel
[20:05] <Tassadar> dobey: not the latest, I don't use utouch very often
[20:05] <Tassadar> why, is there some problem with those?
[20:06] <ogra_> symin, ubuntu-touch/devel is an alias to the current best image
[20:06] <ogra_> ubuntu-device-flash will know what to do with that
[20:06] <dobey> Tassadar: yeah, after pulling off the charger, when the screen blanks, it will more often than not, fail to show anything when you unblank
[20:07] <Tassadar> I think that new split greeter thingy caused that
[20:07] <Tassadar> is it reverted already?
[20:07] <dobey> Tassadar: it is reverted and still happens
[20:07] <ogra_> since 5-6 images
[20:07] <Tassadar> hm
[20:07] <Aizen> ogra_, is there any other ways I should try ?
[20:07] <dobey> no idea what it is, but yes, it is likely related to that
[20:07] <Tassadar> hammerhead's drivers have problems with framebuffer blanking
[20:07] <Tassadar> if it is doing that
[20:08] <symin> ogra_, havent touched ubuntu for few months, I am using dual boot, can I still use ubuntu-device-flash? There is no devel on the list in dual boot app
[20:08] <dobey> hmm
[20:08] <Tassadar> (most devices these days do)
[20:08] <ogra_> symin, thats pretty bad, then use utopic
[20:08] <dobey> Tassadar: i did some GLES errors related to the GPU, but they weren't consistently spewed when the unblanking failed. maybe another log has more info though, no idea
[20:08] <ogra_> they are the same, just that the channel with the release name is a dead end
[20:09] <Tassadar> lemme try it
[20:09] <symin> ogra_, thanks
[20:29] <Tassadar> dobey: it will probably take a while, slow internet connection ;____;
[20:31] <dobey> Tassadar: no worries
[20:31] <dobey> Tassadar: thanks for looking at it. i've been feeling like a loner the past couple of weeks with this issue :-/
[20:38] <Tassadar> hm, the apparmor stuff on first boot are taking quite a long time
[20:39] <jjohansen1> Tassadar: yes, that is known. A fix for that should land soon
[20:39] <Tassadar> good
[20:42] <Tassadar> hm, yeah, the display drivers aren't happy
[20:43] <Tassadar> I think it is probably because of that blanking
[20:43] <Tassadar> I'll try to hack-disable it in kernel
[20:43] <Tassadar> once I'll find where <_<
[20:45] <dobey> Tassadar: ah, thanks for looking!
[20:48] <Tassadar> dobey: don't rejoice yet, it might be something else
[20:49] <Tassadar> in which case I have no idea what to do with it)
[20:54] <Tassadar> anyway, if it indeed is framebuffer blanking, then I would suggest not to do that at all, because it doesn't work on new qualcomm chips
[20:57] <dobey> i have no idea hwo to not do that
[20:59] <Tassadar> the thing which does all the operations around suspend would have to stop doing that
[20:59] <Tassadar> what is that anyway, mir? unity8?
[21:02] <dobey> i have no idea
[21:02] <dobey> upower probably
[21:02] <dobey> but upower hasn't changed lately
[21:17] <Tassadar> hm
[21:17] <Tassadar> would be really nice to know what changed
[21:21] <Tassadar> well, even if I ignore the blank request, it just vomits errors to dmesg
[21:31] <dobey> Tassadar: indeed. i have no idea what to look at for that. :(
[23:20] <Gnar> how come ubuntus sucks so fucking bad?
[23:58] <IdleOne> sarnold: if you feed them they will come :)