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MooDoohello all05:39
Myrttimoin05:55
* nigelb yawns06:01
* diddledan agrees06:04
diploMorning all07:02
MooDoomorning diplo07:02
diploHow's things MooDoo ?07:03
MooDoodiplo: yeah ok thanks, madness to be up this early, but I'm cracking on with things.07:07
diploEarly?!?07:08
MooDoodiplo: ok not so much now, but was as work for 6:3007:10
Myrttioh man.07:13
Myrttimeh07:13
nigelbI was up at 0550. Not sure what I did after that. Only started work at 0900.07:14
diploAh right, I was awake at 6 but don't start till 807:15
DJones10 days off and I come back to 100 emails, at least looks like 80% of them are spam07:40
awilkinsWorkspam or spamspam?07:45
DJonesmonty python spam07:46
diplo100 emails in 10 days, that's really not that bad07:46
DJonesmostly viagra, other medication & "build your website & online presence" spam07:47
awilkinsI remember the days of a  < 1 ham to spam ratio07:55
awilkinsI thought this was a conquered problem, but clearly not for private email systems07:56
awilkinsI guess it's something easier to solve at a larger scale. Both the email systems I interact with have a large number of users (NHS mail, around 1 million, and GMail, billions, I expect)07:57
DJonesYeah, I use 3 email accounts at work, a gmail one which gets 0 spam, an accounts@work address which gets 2-3 spam per week and and enquiries@work address which gets 5-10 spam a day, the last two are on a small work related domain07:58
awilkinsGMail leverages a vast spam identification engine of terrible power, of course (billions of users clicking "this is spam")07:59
dwatkinsI saw this on slashdot yesterday, it might be quite an interesting read: https://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?doid=2590296.259030208:00
dwatkins"The Harvester, the Botmaster, and the Spammer: On the Relations Between the Different Actors in the Spam Landscape"08:01
dwatkinsIt always baffles me when I get spam without a link in it.08:02
bashrcmorning08:03
diplo I'd love a way to use Gmail spam engine and pay a small fee08:04
dwatkinsdiplo: you can have gmail forward all mail to another account, and thus use it as a spam filter08:05
diploYeah I mean connect postfix/qmail etc from our company email via their spam servers, they do such a good job at it08:05
diploLike BitFolk offer remote spam servers08:05
dwatkinsyeah, I imagine if you use their mail servers for your corporate mail, the spam blocking is quite effective08:06
dwatkinswe use postini, it seems to work reasonably well08:06
DJonesOoh, found a spam for a new voicemail, click this link to listen "http://en8jmq93pm.ljygoyh.com/*********".... Yeah as if that looks like a safe and well known domain08:06
diplodwatkins, is it easy to integrate to mta's ?08:08
dwatkinsno idea, diplo - I didn't do the integration08:08
diplopostini that is, isn't that owned by google now anyway? I may have remember wrong08:08
diploAh ok08:08
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.08:14
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy International Panic Day! :-D08:26
awilkinsWhat are we panicing about?08:26
awilkinsAh well, it will be a great meeting icebreaker08:30
dwatkinsspam?08:36
awilkinsIt being International Panic Day08:37
awilkinsWho decides these things?08:37
awilkinsIs there a committee that gets together and decides that a given day will be devoted to Panic (and picnics).08:41
awilkinsPicnic Day sounds much nicer08:41
awilkinsI may find a scotch egg and go and eat it by the river08:41
bashrcis there an ubuntu day?08:41
dwatkinsthere was in 201208:42
awilkinsOnly reference I can find is a video of Desmond Tutu supporting a National uBuntu Day in SA08:42
dwatkinshttps://www.facebook.com/events/424963100880647/?ref=508:42
dwatkins'Ubuntu: 'I am because we are' in Swahili. A day to celebrate youth leadership with our friends from Maai Mahiu, Kenya.'08:42
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)09:00
popeyyo09:05
bigcalmho ho and a bottle of rum09:06
davmor2bigcalm: oh is it international talk like a pirate day then :P09:10
dwatkinsit's September already?09:11
* Myrtti does a sensible chuckle09:34
Myrttihttp://entertainment.guardianoffers.co.uk/i-dd-rm001699/g-c-h-q-always-listening-to-our-customers/09:34
dwatkinsnice, Myrtti09:45
nigelb2309:49
nigelb(gah)09:49
foobarryed balls09:51
* dwatkins is in beepy hell with really cheap hold music which can only play one note at a time10:21
dwatkinsThe circuit that makes this music is probably less expensive than my lunch10:22
foobarrygreensleeves10:22
dwatkinssurprisingly not, foobarry - I don't recognise the tune10:22
dwatkinsit has 20 notes, though10:22
selinuxiummorning all  o/10:28
selinuxiumHaving an issue with Trusty... ran    sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-header-$(uname -r)     and got    Unable to locate package linux-header-3.13.0-27-generic10:33
selinuxiumDoh...10:37
selinuxiumlinux-headers-$(uname -r)   missed the 's'10:39
selinuxiumQuiet in here today?10:39
bigcalmShhhh10:39
Myrttissssshhhhh10:40
selinuxium*creeps quietly into a corner*10:40
popeyheh10:48
MooDooselinuxium: tumbleweed.popey.com10:54
selinuxium:)     (smiling is quiet - no LOL here)10:55
* foobarry pulls a book off the shelf and peruses quietly11:00
mappshey LL11:06
mappsALL11:06
mappsback in uk.and my sky routers here:D gotta go collect it in a min..so fibre soon yay11:06
MooDooczajkowski: just seen a tweet you're involved with re mongodb meetup :)13:28
czajkowskiI am indeed13:51
mgdmczajkowski: OH13:51
mgdmczajkowski: I owe you an email about that, don't I13:51
czajkowskimgdm: indeed :)13:53
czajkowskibut tis ok I know you're busy13:53
mgdmczajkowski: writing it now ;-)13:53
mgdmczajkowski: (PM your email again?)13:54
czajkowskifirst dot surname at the place I work dot com :)13:54
mgdmnae bother13:54
bigcalmI hope somebody does a talk on mongodb at oggcamp so that I can find out if I should actually use it or not13:57
mgdmThere'll probably be one at PHPNW... :P13:57
* bigcalm tuts13:57
* bigcalm pouts13:58
* bigcalm wants to go to both!13:58
* mgdm got his ticket for PHPNW yesterday \o/13:58
bigcalmI'll miss seeing you in a kilt and Jen in top hat and tails13:58
mgdm:D13:58
bashrcafaik mongodb doesn't run well on ARM14:15
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MyrttiI have now seen it all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwX0mhPfE-g14:33
MyrttiBoris and Paxman on a tandem bicycle14:33
bashrcthe establishment at leisure14:35
bigcalmThat's amazing14:43
Armag3dd0n24I like eggs.14:43
bigcalmI can imagine them being drinking buddies14:43
dwatkinsShouldn't Boris be on a Boris Bike?14:49
bigcalmYou mean a Ken Bike?14:52
dwatkinsthat too14:54
bigcalm;)14:56
bigcalmSorry, just being a pita14:56
daftykinsjust re-done the thermal interface material on that red Sony15:30
daftykinshitting 70 deg C max load with an i5 2410M15:31
daftykinsso the only thing that doesn't work... is the right mouse button15:31
daftykinsi'm sure someone with a multimeter and some patience could isolate that fault, but i'm not going to go that far :>15:31
shaunojust put osx on it and they won't need that button ;)15:38
daftykinsi always use right click on macs ;_:15:38
dogmatic69_How can I make all the home folders move? is it best to just mount something to /home17:02
daftykinswhat are you trying to do?17:04
* daftykins nudges dogmatic69_ 17:04
dogmatic69_daftykins: I got a new shiny raid with 3TB of space, and a SSD (which currently has /home) complaining that its full17:05
daftykinsah right17:05
dogmatic69_so, need to move /home -> /raid/HomeDir17:05
daftykinsthat's an idea, but the best way to handle an SSD is a little different17:06
dogmatic69_my raid is mounted to /raid17:06
dogmatic69_why would ssd be different?17:06
daftykinsinstead of moving the entire /home, be aware that your software configs are in ~/.config and so on as well, so leaving them on the SSD would be best17:06
daftykinsso instead, make /raid/username then move all your folders of data, e.g. music, documents, pictures over17:07
daftykinsthen symlink those folders back to /home/username/17:07
dogmatic69_I see, for speed... well raid 1 should be pretty snappy17:07
daftykinshehe, nowhere near as good as SSD17:07
dogmatic69_ye, I have done that a bit, but now my ~/Downloads is 20gb17:07
dogmatic69_ssd is 60 :/17:07
daftykinsso move that to /raid/username too and then symlink it back so it still looks like it's in /home/username/17:08
dogmatic69_ok17:08
dogmatic69_symlinks are pretty good at staying put?17:08
dogmatic69_dont want to make a bunch and they keep disappearing17:09
daftykinsthey're permanent yes17:12
dogmatic69_daftykins: what about swap?17:14
dogmatic69_i just upgraded to 16gb ram, currently have 8gb swap on the ssd17:15
daftykinsdepends if you ever use sleep or hibernate i guess17:15
dogmatic69_nope, just on or off17:15
daftykinsprobably no reason to change that then17:16
dogmatic69_ok17:17
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dogmatic69_ok, sound on my new mobo is crappy :/22:27
dogmatic69_Realtek ALC115022:27
dogmatic69_bug 133054622:33
lubotu3bug 1321421 in linux (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1330546 8086:8ca0 Sound output distorted/unusable with Intel Z97/H97" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132142122:33

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