[05:39] hello all [05:55] moin [06:01] * nigelb yawns [06:04] * diddledan agrees [07:02] Morning all [07:02] morning diplo [07:03] How's things MooDoo ? [07:07] diplo: yeah ok thanks, madness to be up this early, but I'm cracking on with things. [07:08] Early?!? [07:10] diplo: ok not so much now, but was as work for 6:30 [07:13] oh man. [07:13] meh [07:14] I was up at 0550. Not sure what I did after that. Only started work at 0900. [07:15] Ah right, I was awake at 6 but don't start till 8 [07:40] 10 days off and I come back to 100 emails, at least looks like 80% of them are spam [07:45] Workspam or spamspam? [07:46] monty python spam [07:46] 100 emails in 10 days, that's really not that bad [07:47] mostly viagra, other medication & "build your website & online presence" spam [07:55] I remember the days of a < 1 ham to spam ratio [07:56] I thought this was a conquered problem, but clearly not for private email systems [07:57] I guess it's something easier to solve at a larger scale. Both the email systems I interact with have a large number of users (NHS mail, around 1 million, and GMail, billions, I expect) [07:58] Yeah, I use 3 email accounts at work, a gmail one which gets 0 spam, an accounts@work address which gets 2-3 spam per week and and enquiries@work address which gets 5-10 spam a day, the last two are on a small work related domain [07:59] GMail leverages a vast spam identification engine of terrible power, of course (billions of users clicking "this is spam") [08:00] I saw this on slashdot yesterday, it might be quite an interesting read: https://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?doid=2590296.2590302 [08:01] "The Harvester, the Botmaster, and the Spammer: On the Relations Between the Different Actors in the Spam Landscape" [08:02] It always baffles me when I get spam without a link in it. [08:03] morning [08:04] I'd love a way to use Gmail spam engine and pay a small fee [08:05] diplo: you can have gmail forward all mail to another account, and thus use it as a spam filter [08:05] Yeah I mean connect postfix/qmail etc from our company email via their spam servers, they do such a good job at it [08:05] Like BitFolk offer remote spam servers [08:06] yeah, I imagine if you use their mail servers for your corporate mail, the spam blocking is quite effective [08:06] we use postini, it seems to work reasonably well [08:06] Ooh, found a spam for a new voicemail, click this link to listen "http://en8jmq93pm.ljygoyh.com/*********".... Yeah as if that looks like a safe and well known domain [08:08] dwatkins, is it easy to integrate to mta's ? [08:08] no idea, diplo - I didn't do the integration [08:08] postini that is, isn't that owned by google now anyway? I may have remember wrong [08:08] Ah ok [08:14] morning boys and girls. [08:26] Good morning all; happy International Panic Day! :-D [08:26] What are we panicing about? [08:30] Ah well, it will be a great meeting icebreaker [08:36] spam? [08:37] It being International Panic Day [08:37] Who decides these things? [08:41] Is there a committee that gets together and decides that a given day will be devoted to Panic (and picnics). [08:41] Picnic Day sounds much nicer [08:41] I may find a scotch egg and go and eat it by the river [08:41] is there an ubuntu day? [08:42] there was in 2012 [08:42] Only reference I can find is a video of Desmond Tutu supporting a National uBuntu Day in SA [08:42] https://www.facebook.com/events/424963100880647/?ref=5 [08:42] 'Ubuntu: 'I am because we are' in Swahili. A day to celebrate youth leadership with our friends from Maai Mahiu, Kenya.' [09:00] Good morning peeps :) [09:05] yo [09:06] ho ho and a bottle of rum [09:10] bigcalm: oh is it international talk like a pirate day then :P [09:11] it's September already? [09:34] * Myrtti does a sensible chuckle [09:34] http://entertainment.guardianoffers.co.uk/i-dd-rm001699/g-c-h-q-always-listening-to-our-customers/ [09:45] nice, Myrtti [09:49] 23 [09:49] (gah) [09:51] ed balls [10:21] * dwatkins is in beepy hell with really cheap hold music which can only play one note at a time [10:22] The circuit that makes this music is probably less expensive than my lunch [10:22] greensleeves [10:22] surprisingly not, foobarry - I don't recognise the tune [10:22] it has 20 notes, though [10:28] morning all o/ [10:33] Having an issue with Trusty... ran sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-header-$(uname -r) and got Unable to locate package linux-header-3.13.0-27-generic [10:37] Doh... [10:39] linux-headers-$(uname -r) missed the 's' [10:39] Quiet in here today? [10:39] Shhhh [10:40] ssssshhhhh [10:40] *creeps quietly into a corner* [10:48] heh [10:54] selinuxium: tumbleweed.popey.com [10:55] :) (smiling is quiet - no LOL here) [11:00] * foobarry pulls a book off the shelf and peruses quietly [11:06] hey LL [11:06] ALL [11:06] back in uk.and my sky routers here:D gotta go collect it in a min..so fibre soon yay [13:28] czajkowski: just seen a tweet you're involved with re mongodb meetup :) [13:51] I am indeed [13:51] czajkowski: OH [13:51] czajkowski: I owe you an email about that, don't I [13:53] mgdm: indeed :) [13:53] but tis ok I know you're busy [13:53] czajkowski: writing it now ;-) [13:54] czajkowski: (PM your email again?) [13:54] first dot surname at the place I work dot com :) [13:54] nae bother [13:57] I hope somebody does a talk on mongodb at oggcamp so that I can find out if I should actually use it or not [13:57] There'll probably be one at PHPNW... :P [13:57] * bigcalm tuts [13:58] * bigcalm pouts [13:58] * bigcalm wants to go to both! [13:58] * mgdm got his ticket for PHPNW yesterday \o/ [13:58] I'll miss seeing you in a kilt and Jen in top hat and tails [13:58] :D [14:15] afaik mongodb doesn't run well on ARM === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g [14:33] I have now seen it all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwX0mhPfE-g [14:33] Boris and Paxman on a tandem bicycle [14:35] the establishment at leisure [14:43] That's amazing [14:43] I like eggs. [14:43] I can imagine them being drinking buddies [14:49] Shouldn't Boris be on a Boris Bike? [14:52] You mean a Ken Bike? [14:54] that too [14:56] ;) [14:56] Sorry, just being a pita [15:30] just re-done the thermal interface material on that red Sony [15:31] hitting 70 deg C max load with an i5 2410M [15:31] so the only thing that doesn't work... is the right mouse button [15:31] i'm sure someone with a multimeter and some patience could isolate that fault, but i'm not going to go that far :> [15:38] just put osx on it and they won't need that button ;) [15:38] i always use right click on macs ;_: [17:02] How can I make all the home folders move? is it best to just mount something to /home [17:04] what are you trying to do? [17:04] * daftykins nudges dogmatic69_ [17:05] daftykins: I got a new shiny raid with 3TB of space, and a SSD (which currently has /home) complaining that its full [17:05] ah right [17:05] so, need to move /home -> /raid/HomeDir [17:06] that's an idea, but the best way to handle an SSD is a little different [17:06] my raid is mounted to /raid [17:06] why would ssd be different? [17:06] instead of moving the entire /home, be aware that your software configs are in ~/.config and so on as well, so leaving them on the SSD would be best [17:07] so instead, make /raid/username then move all your folders of data, e.g. music, documents, pictures over [17:07] then symlink those folders back to /home/username/ [17:07] I see, for speed... well raid 1 should be pretty snappy [17:07] hehe, nowhere near as good as SSD [17:07] ye, I have done that a bit, but now my ~/Downloads is 20gb [17:07] ssd is 60 :/ [17:08] so move that to /raid/username too and then symlink it back so it still looks like it's in /home/username/ [17:08] ok [17:08] symlinks are pretty good at staying put? [17:09] dont want to make a bunch and they keep disappearing [17:12] they're permanent yes [17:14] daftykins: what about swap? [17:15] i just upgraded to 16gb ram, currently have 8gb swap on the ssd [17:15] depends if you ever use sleep or hibernate i guess [17:15] nope, just on or off [17:16] probably no reason to change that then [17:17] ok === deegee__ is now known as drussell [22:27] ok, sound on my new mobo is crappy :/ [22:27] Realtek ALC1150 [22:33] bug 1330546 [22:33] bug 1321421 in linux (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1330546 8086:8ca0 Sound output distorted/unusable with Intel Z97/H97" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1321421