[01:37] <nhaines> I remember running some alpha 3 or beta 1 of Ubuntu 10.04.  Xorg and apt needed updating at the same time.  I was like, "What could possibly go wrong?"
[01:46] <nhaines> (spoiler alert: nothing went wrong.)
[02:48] <Roguehorse> Good to know!
[02:49] <Roguehorse> I believe we who use Ubuntu or derivitives thereof are spoiled in that our stuff always works
[02:49] <nhaines> Oh, things have broken before.  Maybe twice in 10 years? :)
[02:50] <Roguehorse> peanuts compared to other distros...I like having freedom to try and experiment - but at my liesure and not by necessity
[02:52] <Roguehorse> sometimes I believe too much "manual labor" gives LInux a bad name to the GP
[02:54] <nhaines> I forced the LUG members at the last installfest to not talk about the command line.  :P
[02:57] <Roguehorse> LOL!
[02:57] <nhaines> Luckily, the president said he completely agreed and that he'd back me up to anyone who complained.  :)
[02:57] <Roguehorse> there has to be balance - much is only capable there while some is more efficient from GUI
[02:58] <Roguehorse> which is your primary LUG?
[02:58] <nhaines> OCLUG
[02:59] <Roguehorse> ah, down south
[03:00] <Roguehorse> Right now I'm just hoping my guest presenter shows up tomorrow night
[03:00] <nhaines> What's the backup plan?  :)
[03:01] <Roguehorse> I have a presentation on ssh -D proxy
[03:02] <Roguehorse> I'm also working on a blog on fdupes which I could probably make into a short presentation as well
[03:04] <Roguehorse> I really should keep about 2 or 3 on hand at all times huh?
[03:04] <Roguehorse> I'm still really new at this and learning as I go
[03:07] <nhaines> Hehe, yeah, I have 3 or 4 presentations I can do at the drop of a hat.  :)
[03:07] <nhaines> That's okay.  It comes with time and practice and experience.
[03:11] <Roguehorse> So far I've gotten lucky and everyone who said they would present has followed through
[03:15] <Roguehorse> although I don't want to take that luck for granted either : )
[03:17] <nhaines> Yeah, I've only had to fill in once or twice.
[03:17] <nhaines> Of course, one time was at Ubucon, which was annoying.  :P  But I did open Q&A, which was so popular that two years after I handed the event over they're still doing it.  :D
[03:19]  * ianorlin should come to oclug but I don't want to go to one at 7pm on Thursday as traffic is bad before that time
[03:20] <nhaines> Every meeting is always at 10am on Saturdays?
[03:20] <ianorlin> no for other lug
[03:20] <nhaines> Oh.  :)
[03:27] <DonkeyHotei> SoCal has too many freeways to keep track of
[04:30] <ianorlin> I know the 405 is evil
[04:34] <nhaines> Also the 5.
[04:35] <ianorlin> sort of unrelated but there is a Hrud peak in California
[04:35] <ianorlin> *Hurd
[05:53] <nhaines> I feel like maybe I should do those things I said on Sunday.
[13:29] <Roguehorse> Good Morning