| waf | isn't portland super rainy? | 00:05 |
|---|---|---|
| rick_h_ | yes why yes it is and I like the rain :) | 00:06 |
| rick_h_ | first thing every says like it's a bad thing. I've got to turn the lawn sprinklers on tomorrow because the sun is nuking my crappy grass | 00:06 |
| waf | hahaha, ok. well then it sounds perfect | 00:06 |
| waf | screw grass, we should all make like san diego-ians (?) and replace grass with green rocks. | 00:07 |
| waf | don't have to water rocks. | 00:07 |
| cmaloney | I want to replace my grass with solar panels | 00:08 |
| jrwren | really? | 00:08 |
| jrwren | grass needs water already? | 00:08 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I live in retiree area where they have their manucured lawns and it's golf course green | 00:09 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: Certain grasses do | 00:09 |
| jrwren | I'm cursing all the rain we've been getting because I have to mow too often. | 00:09 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: ++ | 00:09 |
| jrwren | i can't wait for august :) | 00:09 |
| jrwren | less mowing | 00:09 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: yea, we've got sandy soil here. So all that water runs away down to the wetlands behind the house | 00:09 |
| jrwren | ah, sandy soil. | 00:09 |
| rick_h_ | so for 3' from the edge of my property it's green and tall | 00:09 |
| jrwren | you could build up that soil over a few years | 00:09 |
| rick_h_ | the rest is quickly browning fail | 00:09 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I talked to the retired guy across the street once | 00:10 |
| rick_h_ | they had 18" excavated and filled with topsoil and then had the lawn laid out | 00:10 |
| jrwren | 18"!!! | 00:10 |
| jrwren | that seems excessive | 00:10 |
| rick_h_ | no idea, I heard that and went "yea...that's nice" | 00:12 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, that's a bit much | 00:27 |
| krondor | so last night you guys were saying about rain? looks like it's rain the rest of the week | 12:10 |
| brousch__ | lovely | 12:23 |
| brousch__ | Good light show last night | 12:23 |
| rick_h_ | no sprinklers this week then woot! | 12:23 |
| * krondor curses rain god rick_h_ for killing yet another week of biking fun | 12:33 | |
| brousch__ | You can bike in the rain. Don't be a wuss. | 12:35 |
| rick_h_ | krondor: time for fenders :) | 12:36 |
| krondor | it's mountain biking and scary biker guys will kick your ass if you mess up the trails in the mud | 12:38 |
| brousch__ | How would they know it's you? | 12:40 |
| mrgoodcat | krondor: mud riding is some of the best | 12:41 |
| mrgoodcat | do you have a set of fattys? | 12:41 |
| krondor | absolutely it's ufn. No fattys, but I'm on 2.2" width so they don't sink too bad | 12:42 |
| krondor | these guys (cramba) in our area maintain a lot of the park trails; http://www.cramba.org/2012/11/29/ride-dirt-trails-not-mud-trails/ | 12:42 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/MsmWGj - Ride Dirt Trails, Not Mud Trails. | CRAMBA-IMBA | 12:42 |
| mrgoodcat | I ride my dad's moonlander in the mud sometimes | 12:43 |
| mrgoodcat | since i volunteer to help maintain the trail i don't feel too bad | 12:43 |
| krondor | mrgoodcat: nice, I'm a mooch but always think of helping. | 12:45 |
| krondor | I also think the mud damage probably highly depends on the type of trail and the riding style | 12:45 |
| krondor | I'm probably too slow to cause any real harm lol | 12:46 |
| mrgoodcat | on a moonlander it is pretty difficult to really mess up the trail | 12:46 |
| mrgoodcat | the tire is 4.5" or something in that range | 12:46 |
| mrgoodcat | 4.8 | 12:47 |
| krondor | yeah that's a lot of surface area to spread weight out. Is it hard to peddle that thing? | 12:49 |
| mrgoodcat | nah not too bad | 12:50 |
| mrgoodcat | i don't ride it very often though | 12:50 |
| mrgoodcat | usually i'm just on my diamondback | 12:50 |
| mrgoodcat | really any time you would be riding the moondlander it is actually *easier* because you're in soft terrain that would be a total bitch on a normal tire | 12:51 |
| krondor | yeah that makes sense | 12:53 |
| brousch__ | Why is it so dark outside? | 13:03 |
| cmaloney | Apparently the storms last night scared our alarm clock | 13:23 |
| mrgoodcat | cmaloney: mine too | 13:40 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, I woke up only a few minutes ago | 13:41 |
| jrwren | wow. | 13:50 |
| _stink_ | gah | 13:52 |
| _stink_ | what is the current 'right' way to build .debs? suddenly i have a reason to do it again and those tools and the advice for using them seem to change like every 8 days. | 13:53 |
| _stink_ | google is useless. | 13:53 |
| _stink_ | the current version in 14.04 is broken and the bug is in launchpad and is fixed upstream. i presume i apt-get source the package, apply the fix, but then what? | 13:54 |
| cmaloney | _stink_:Your best bet would be to find a debian developer to do it for you | 13:54 |
| cmaloney | I hear they like whiskey. | 13:54 |
| _stink_ | haha | 13:55 |
| _stink_ | oh how many angry feelings about packaging this dredges up. | 13:56 |
| jrwren | _stink_: there is not "right" way except what works for you. | 13:57 |
| jrwren | _stink_: are you doing it for internal use, or for PPA or for inclusion in universe? | 13:57 |
| _stink_ | jrwren: first for personal use, but if i can make a ppa at least until the official one gets updated i want to. | 13:58 |
| jrwren | _stink_: "then what?" A: run debuild | 13:58 |
| _stink_ | i know i have to do the keys and stuff for a ppa | 13:58 |
| _stink_ | ok cool. | 13:58 |
| _stink_ | what is dpkg-buildpackage, then? | 13:58 |
| _stink_ | they appear to do the same thing | 13:59 |
| _stink_ | but some say to use one, others the other | 13:59 |
| jrwren | not just that, but you have to rev the pkg version in debian/changelog and either update the original tar.gz which apt-get source fetched, or apply the patch in the debian/ dir | 13:59 |
| jrwren | debuild does a bunch of checks and eventually runs dpkg-buildpackage for you | 13:59 |
| _stink_ | *thank you*. | 13:59 |
| _stink_ | that is what i needed | 13:59 |
| jrwren | if you don't care about hte checks, you can use dpkg-buildpackage and skip debuild | 13:59 |
| _stink_ | i like checks | 13:59 |
| jrwren | the checks are stuff you need to get it into a PPA | 14:00 |
| jrwren | heck, I think PPA runs debuild, so that has to at least succeed locally | 14:00 |
| _stink_ | jrwren: thank you for making me less angry | 14:00 |
| jrwren | you are welcome. | 14:00 |
| jrwren | anytime you have dpkg questions, I'll try to help. I've gotten beyond nub status and into dangrous on this topic | 14:00 |
| _stink_ | hah, perfect. | 14:01 |
| cmaloney | _stink_: See, all it takes is a little whiskey. ;) | 14:30 |
| mrgoodcat | mmm whisky | 14:32 |
| mrgoodcat | scotch++ | 14:32 |
| cmaloney | http://musicandriotsmagazine.com/?p=10657 | 14:54 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/vQH22I - Exclusive Stream: Colosso's Foregone Semblances 7" | musicandriotsmagazine.com | 14:54 |
| jrwren | http://blog.ziade.org/2014/05/23/data-decentralization-amp-mozilla/ | 15:25 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/NuW9h6 - Data decentralization & Mozilla | 15:25 |
| jrwren | cool | 15:25 |
| greg-g | jrwren: I may have missed something, but is there anything new/actionable in that post? | 16:07 |
| brousch__ | It's coming for you guys next https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/101667/2014-06-18%2013.02.24.jpg | 17:25 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/l33N3t - image/jpeg | 17:25 |
| jrwren | greg-g: nah, that post was from a month ago. I just now saw it, or was reminded of it. | 17:25 |
| cmaloney | brousch__: Yeah, saw that on G+ | 17:28 |
| cmaloney | yay more storms | 17:28 |
| brousch__ | video is processing | 17:28 |
| greg-g | what is this "weather" thing you all keep talking about? | 17:29 |
| brousch__ | It's like intense fog | 17:30 |
| greg-g | oh, we have that | 17:33 |
| greg-g | :) | 17:33 |
| greg-g | the video: https://www.dropbox.com/s/x370asm044dcyde/2014-06-18%2017.04.28.mp4 | 17:37 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/HyM4ZB - Dropbox - 2014-06-18 17.04.28.mp4 | 17:37 |
| greg-g | I clicked ow.ly links so you don't have to | 17:37 |
| brousch__ | Gee, thanks :P | 17:37 |
| greg-g | :P | 17:38 |
| cmaloney | i wish I could figure out why my fucking machine keeps pausing every few seconds | 17:42 |
| cmaloney | it is driving me insane | 17:42 |
| cmaloney | ls -al | 17:43 |
| cmaloney | heh | 17:44 |
| greg-g | brousch__: OMG THAT BUILDING WAS DEMOLISHED BY THE STORM?!?!!?!?!! | 17:46 |
| brousch__ | You mean the car shredding machine next door? | 17:49 |
| greg-g | wow, codespaces.com | 17:50 |
| greg-g | brousch__: yeah | 17:50 |
| greg-g | brousch__: also, awesome, you have a car shredding machine next door?! | 17:50 |
| greg-g | though, that must suck for concentration | 17:50 |
| brousch__ | It does. It vibrates our entire building all day long and explodes every month when they forget to empty a gas tank | 17:51 |
| greg-g | lol | 17:52 |
| brousch__ | It's always funny the first time that happens after a new employee starts | 17:53 |
| cmaloney | nice | 17:54 |
| brousch__ | They think a bomb went off while the rest of us ignore it as routine | 17:54 |
| greg-g | ....until the real bomb goes off | 17:54 |
| greg-g | shit, hi NSA | 17:54 |
| greg-g | I may have a beard, but I'm not the enemy | 17:55 |
| cmaloney | I'm about 3 seconds from smashing my computer | 18:01 |
| cmaloney | fucking pauses are really pissing me off | 18:01 |
| greg-g | :( | 18:02 |
| cmaloney | and of course because hulk smash, hulk managed to break the stupid little tabs that raise the keyboard | 18:02 |
| greg-g | :( | 18:02 |
| cmaloney | Happens whenever I reboot my computer and I have no clue why it does it | 18:02 |
| cmaloney | eventually it just ges away. | 18:03 |
| cmaloney | Little things are really setting me off today. | 18:03 |
| greg-g | I feel ya | 18:03 |
| brousch__ | pauses? | 18:07 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, it'll just stop, like an SSH connection | 18:07 |
| brousch__ | I had behavior like that on my old computer. I finally figured out it was Akondi indexing all the things on my hard drive | 18:07 |
| cmaloney | That might be helpful if I'd ever touched something KDE-related. :) | 18:08 |
| brousch__ | Is there not a Gnome equivalent? | 18:08 |
| cmaloney | Not that I'm aware of | 18:09 |
| cmaloney | more frustrating: whatever is happening isn't logging anything | 18:09 |
| greg-g | tracker-something | 18:12 |
| greg-g | cmaloney: there is | 18:12 |
| cmaloney | I'm not running it | 18:12 |
| greg-g | check (or uncheck) the boxes in the Search tab in your settings | 18:12 |
| * greg-g nods | 18:12 | |
| jrwren | greg-g: the only thing that terrifies me more than your beard is the US government :p | 18:14 |
| cmaloney | And only a little bit | 18:14 |
| jrwren | cmaloney: iotop show IO per process? | 18:15 |
| greg-g | jrwren: :P | 18:16 |
| jrwren | greg-g: Burgers in bacon grease?!?!?! wtf?!?!?! | 18:18 |
| greg-g | jrwren: well, we just got done making 4 slices of bacon, what'd you want us to do with it? :) | 18:21 |
| jrwren | you know, your hippie status would like double, if you were vegetarian. | 18:23 |
| greg-g | I used to be! then Carrie went paleo | 18:23 |
| jrwren | ugh. | 18:24 |
| jrwren | i'm anti paleo | 18:25 |
| greg-g | :) | 18:25 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, I'm not a fan of paleo | 18:26 |
| cmaloney | I think it's a ridiculous variant of Atkins | 18:27 |
| mrgoodcat | https://shutthebackdoor.net/ | 18:28 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/A1coVb - Shut the NSA's Surveillance Backdoor | 18:28 |
| mrgoodcat | vote today or tomorrow | 18:28 |
| brousch__ | I want to eat like my ancestors did when they lived to be 35! | 18:31 |
| jrwren | my fad diet is beer and salad greens. | 18:32 |
| jrwren | because once I have had enough beer, i odn't care what I eat, I just want more beer. | 18:32 |
| brousch__ | Really? I drink 1, 2 beers at most. Then don't want any more | 18:32 |
| jrwren | i love beer. | 18:32 |
| jrwren | but no, not really. | 18:32 |
| cmaloney | btw: Does anyone have a leopold keyboard that they're not using the flip-out feet on? :) | 19:47 |
| cmaloney | Asking for a friend. | 19:47 |
| jrwren | anyone familiar enought with both cmake and autotools to give me a pros/cons of each? | 19:48 |
| cmaloney | I get angry whenever I have to run cmake. | 19:48 |
| cmaloney | That's about the only pro / con I have. | 19:48 |
| cmaloney | Evening | 23:32 |
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