[00:00] <Aphophecy> Can anyone here help me?
[00:00] <witheld> mxvxrts: what else could I possibly elaborate one?
[00:00] <witheld> It doesn't automatically boot anything
[00:00] <phillyj> this is the error that showed up http://paste.ubuntu.com/7661003/
[00:00] <witheld> sits on grub and waits
[00:00] <witheld> on*
[00:01] <Aphophecy> I want to get Ubuntu but I'm scared.
[00:01] <mxvxrts> witheld, Your hypothesis seems to be a guess is all, is this the case?
[00:01] <ObrienDave> Aphophecy, what are your concerns?
[00:01] <genii> !info torcs
[00:01] <Aphophecy> I primarily play games, league and guild wars 2 and nothing else. But I don't want to find out i'll have bad fps.
[00:01] <witheld> mxvxrts: yes this is a thing that happens
[00:01] <mxvxrts> Aphophecy, Support here if your afraid what is it you need?
[00:01] <witheld> it's kind of a problem
[00:01] <genii> phillyj: Why are you compiling it from source when there's a package for it?
[00:01] <witheld> headless servers randomly not coming back online
[00:02] <qwertyomen> witheld: your gonna have to go in and edit /etc/default/grub and modify the timeout, then update-grub when your done
[00:02] <phillyj> genii: cause I have a faster connection at work, takes so long at home
[00:02] <phillyj> to download,i mean
[00:02] <mxvxrts> witheld, check the /etc/default/grub for any anomalies, and if you change anything run a update-grub
[00:02] <OerHeks> phillyj, missing dependencie libogg/vorbis  >>>  http://torcs.sourceforge.net/index.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=3#linux-vendor
[00:02] <ObrienDave> witheld, have you looked into grub-customizer to adjust grub settings?
[00:03] <genii> That explanation makes no sense.
[00:03] <phillyj> it passed the ./configure
[00:04] <Aphophecy> I'm an aspiring coder/programmer even though i've not taken the steps to teach myself. I find that Ubuntu is a faster OS than my Windows 8.1. I'm looking to primarily play League Of Legends and Guild Wars 2 through wine, crossover, or playonlinux. But I'm afraid to do so. I don't want to install the distro to find my FPS is not how I want it. I'm running on an intel i5 with 6gb ram.
[00:04] <Aphophecy> I use intel HD 4000 and Nvidia GeForce 610M
[00:04] <phillyj> oh, nvr mind, it didn't pass configure
[00:04] <phillyj> i will check the dependencies again
[00:05] <qwertyomen> Aphophecy: you could always dual boot, or if you have another hard drive laying around you could install Ubuntu on that.
[00:05] <Aphophecy> I don't see the point in dual booting if I could do my surfing on the windows
[00:05] <Aphophecy> I primarily thought of ubuntu for faster computer speeds.
[00:06] <Aphophecy> Probably not an active reason to move to Linux.
[00:06] <mxvxrts> Aphophecy, This is support for broken stuff so be aware, your decision to do anything is yours alone.
[00:07] <qwertyomen> Aphophecy: have you heard of a wubi install? If your system came preinstalled with 8.1, you won't be able to (EUFI bullcrap)
[00:08] <mxvxrts> qwertyomen, wubi is not supported bad advice
[00:09] <ObrienDave> wubi, NO!!!!
[00:09] <qwertyomen> mxvxrts: psh... it kinda works... besides a solution to try linux without damaging an existing installation is solid.
[00:09] <genii> ObrienDave: I agree wholeheartedly.
[00:10] <mxvxrts> qwertyomen, An opinion, not solid help, try to keep these and the emotions involved off the channel please.
[00:11] <Aphophecy> I wish I couldload dualboot Ubuntu and GW2.
[00:12] <mxvxrts> Aphophecy, Use a virtual machine, as of now you are just spamming the channel.
[00:16] <qwertyomen> Holy cow we've got a channel nazi mxvxrts: wtf man it's an option. I didn't know that a hack based OS doesn't have any place for 'sperimental stuff anymore.
[00:16] <mxvxrts> Aphophecy, For offtopic your place might be #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:17] <daftykins> qwertyomen: calm down and use family appropriate language please
[00:18] <phillyj> alright, OerHeks, thanks for pointing me in the direction. I guess I missed the error in the ./configure
[00:19] <qwertyomen> I could spell it out... what the fart... geeze Yeah wubi sucks. Had that style install on my laptop for too long, just too lazy to install proper :D
[00:19] <Guest32823> wubi does suck especially on uefi sets
[00:20] <daftykins> qwertyomen: this channel is not for general chat, please take off topic conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:20] <mxvxrts> Guest32823, The designer themselves stated it is for trying out ubuntu lieu of a full install, nothing else.
[00:20] <qwertyomen> EXACTLY
[00:21] <mxvxrts> and one person was support and it is not supported anymore
[00:23] <zumba_addict> hey guys, if I run apt-get update then upgrade, will it affect my existing installed applications?
[00:23] <zumba_addict> i'm installing node.js and npm
[00:23] <zumba_addict> i've already installed node
[00:24] <daftykins> well, it upgrades package-based application yes
[00:24] <zumba_addict> my teammate installed cassandra and he configured it. I don't that to get affected
[00:25] <alumno_> hi
[00:25] <qwertyomen> if you run apt-get update, then do apt-get upgrade it will just update the packages, not the config files
[00:25] <daftykins> zumba_addict: don't worry, you'll always have your backups
[00:25] <zumba_addict> ok, I will do it now
[00:25] <zumba_addict> it won't restart the server right?
[00:25] <daftykins> no
[00:25] <zumba_addict> k
[00:25] <zumba_addict> i'll run sudo apt-get update now
[00:26] <qwertyomen> shouldn't... unless there's a critical kernel update
[00:26] <zumba_addict> should I uninstall node.js first?
[00:26] <daftykins> it still won't restart auto.
[00:26] <zumba_addict> k
[00:27] <qwertyomen> yeah it'll ask before it reboots.
[00:27] <daftykins> no...
[00:27] <zumba_addict> update is done
[00:27] <daftykins> qwertyomen: please don't offer advice when you're unfamiliar with the product.
[00:27] <qwertyomen> when you log in next time it will
[00:28] <zumba_addict> now, upgrade will upgrade applications that requires upgrading. Correct?
[00:28] <qwertyomen> yes
[00:28] <daftykins> the clue is in the name.
[00:29] <zumba_addict> this is the result -http://pastebin.com/1ZdbkxcL
[00:29] <daftykins> so it's an amazon cloud instance
[00:29] <zumba_addict> do you think it includes update for Cassandra?
[00:29] <bitcoinassassin> hello. running server 13.x 64 bit; want to run command line check an external hard drive /dev/sdf .... it's listed in $sudo fdisk -l 2x as /dev/sdf and /dev/sdf1 = fs listed as 'unknown'
[00:29] <zumba_addict> yes, it is daftykins
[00:29] <zumba_addict> how did you figure out?
[00:30] <daftykins> zumba_addict: ok, it's clear that you have no experience using server - you'd be better off studying the server documentation to learn how to do anything. however, if your colleague set it up, perhaps you shouldn't be updating it?
[00:30] <daftykins> !documentation
[00:30] <zumba_addict> ok
[00:30] <zumba_addict> I'm ok on other distro but not on Ubuntu
[00:31] <daftykins> "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" which is my choice over 'upgrade', will show what packages it's going to update prior to doing it.
[00:31] <zumba_addict> will it asks first?
[00:32] <zumba_addict> oh you said prior :)
[00:32] <zumba_addict> trying it now
[00:32] <qwertyomen> zumba_addict: Whoah, you should probably ask your buddy who installed the OS before you go upgrading the distro...
[00:32] <zumba_addict> http://pastebin.com/VvFN0KZA
[00:33] <zumba_addict> i'm not upgrading the distro, just the packages
[00:33] <daftykins> dist-upgrade doesn't upgrade version
[00:33] <zumba_addict> looks like it will reboot it, i see linux-header
[00:34] <daftykins> like i said, you need to read up on this stuff
[00:34] <zumba_addict> i see cassandra too
[00:34] <zumba_addict> i won't upgrade it
[00:34] <zumba_addict> i'll just install npm and upgrade node.js
[00:34] <daftykins> upgrade what?
[00:34] <zumba_addict> i should be fine
[00:34] <zumba_addict> dist-upgrade will update cassandra which i don't want
[00:34] <zumba_addict> based from the last pastebin I posted
[00:34] <qwertyomen> and with the linux headers it'll want a reboot
[00:35] <ObrienDave> dist-upgrade will update the kernel also
[00:35] <zumba_addict> and looks like the library still has the heartbleed bug
[00:35] <zumba_addict> qwertyomen: that's what I mentioned above
[00:35] <daftykins> ObrienDave: lol. that's not what it means
[00:36] <qwertyomen> yeah... sorry ;) This isn't on a production server is it?
[00:36] <zumba_addict> it's a dev
[00:36] <zumba_addict> but i still won't upgrade it because we have a demo tomorrow
[00:36] <zumba_addict> i'm just installing npm and node
[00:37] <daftykins> why did this conversation start with a question about upgrading when you're only installing, not upgrading? :)
[00:37] <mxvxrts> and is not ubuntu
[00:38] <belkinsa> Does anyone know what is this mailing-list, Ubuntu-directory, is for?
[00:38] <delfick> hi, I'm trying to install oracle-java6-installer from the webupd8team ppa. I've installed the ppa and done an apt-get update but there is no oracle-java6-installer package (or any other oracle java packages). Does anyone know why that may be?
 "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" which is my choice over 'upgrade', will show what packages it's going to update prior to doing it.
[00:38] <belkinsa> Or how I'm subscribed to it?  It wasn't me who did it.
[00:38] <mxvxrts> zumba_addict> I'm ok on other distro but not on Ubuntu  sorry daftykins
[00:42] <zumba_addict> mxvxrts: ?
[00:43] <ObrienDave> delfick, which PPA did you install?
[00:43] <daftykins> ObrienDave: it's mentioned in the message.... webupd8
[00:43] <DadFoundMy> im really new to linux and need to run this script, how would i go about doing so? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/1246683/comments/40
[00:44] <ObrienDave> delf try this one ppa:webupd8team/java
[00:44] <ObrienDave> delfick,  try this one ppa:webupd8team/java
[00:44] <daftykins> !java | delfick
[00:46] <delfick> yeah, that's the ppa I'm using
[00:46] <delfick> ObrienDave: but when I do apt-get install oracle-java6-installer or apt-cache search oracle-java6-installer it can't find it
[00:47] <OerHeks> As of Feb 2013, oracle java 6 is EOL
[00:47] <ObrienDave> strange, the packages are there https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/java
[00:47] <daftykins> don't be so specific with "apt-cache search"
[00:47] <delfick> yeah, even search for oracle
[00:47] <daftykins> do "apt-cache search oracle-java"
[00:48] <delfick> the only thing I can think is that because it's in a docker container, maybe that's breaking something
[00:48] <delfick> but I'm not sure why it doesn't just work....
[00:49] <ObrienDave> i see the packages using search
[00:50] <delfick> hmmmm
[00:50] <delfick> well, for now I think I'll just download the deb file at put it next to my dockerfile and revisit using the ppa itself another day.......
[00:51] <delfick> maybe time will magically fix the issue :p
[00:51] <daftykins> can you run the apt-cache search i mentioned?
[00:51] <daftykins> what does it find...
[00:51] <daftykins> also, what ubuntu version is this?
[00:52] <delfick> raring, though I get the same problem with the latest ubuntu as well
[00:52] <daftykins> 13.04 is EOL.
[00:52] <daftykins> you shouldn't be using that
[00:52] <ObrienDave> this is what I get http://pastebin.com/KPJ8H8TM
[00:53] <daftykins> !eol
[00:53] <delfick> https://gist.github.com/delfick/21d662b5a6f97d7fde94
[00:54] <daftykins> so yeah, regardless you need to be running a supported version of ubuntu
[00:54] <delfick> yeah
[00:54] <delfick> still have the same problem in the latest ubuntu
[00:55] <daftykins> i find that hard to believe, but can't spin up a VM of 14.04 right now
[00:55] <delfick> fair enough
[00:56] <Bosi> Hello everyone. I have a netbook with an ATOM N450 1.6ghz on it. I only have 2Gb of RAM in it though. Would you install Xubuntu 32 or 64 bit?  Why?
[00:56] <daftykins> 32-bit
[00:56] <daftykins> because netbooks are bad enough already
[00:58] <DadFoundMy> im attempting to run this script https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/1246683/comments/40, but everytime i run it i get htis output http://pastebin.com/bmtF6Ej7. any help?
[00:58] <qwertyomen> that and x64 [takes more space]=bad
[01:02] <delfick> hmm, ok, I was mistaken, I'm not sure why, but it does work fine in the latest ubuntu.... fancy that.....
[01:02] <delfick> fortunately the old ubuntu docker base isn't used in too much stuff, so won't take me long to update all the things
[01:03] <Julien-Helix> hi
[01:05] <Julien-Helix> i got a question for you folks, on the lastest ubuntu, is there any chances that I can switch the buttons from left to right (thoses one on the title bar) ?
[01:05] <mxvxrts> Bosi, You sure it will even run 64 bit?
[01:08] <Bosi> mxvxrts, yup, it supports 64bits
[01:10] <mxvxrts> Bosi, Can you increase the memory if so 64 bit might be okay, with atom and 2 gigs I would run 32 bit
[01:11] <TuxThePenguin> Hello
[01:11] <TuxThePenguin> Just got Ubuntu, so I decided to check this place out
[01:11] <Bosi> mxvxrts, thanks!
[01:11] <mxvxrts> TuxThePenguin, Cool this is support chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:12] <TuxThePenguin> Ok, thanks
[01:13] <daftykins> Atoms were limited to 2GB by design
[01:14] <ObrienDave> TuxThePenguin, welcome to the Ubuntu family, enjoy your stay
[01:15] <TuxThePenguin> Thanks ObrienDave
[01:16] <Corvette> Installing a deb tells me I have missing dependencies what's the command to fill them
[01:17] <daftykins> couldn't you find it via repos?
[01:17] <ObrienDave> Corvette, i would use Gdebi to install. it will find missing dependencies
[01:18] <Corvette> how do I do that?
[01:18] <ObrienDave> sudo apt-get install gdebi
[01:18] <Corvette> and will gdebi open debs
[01:19] <ObrienDave> yes
[01:19] <Corvette> gdebi tells me the same thing
[01:20] <Corvette> I'm missing libavcodec53 and libavcodec-extra-53
[01:21] <ObrienDave> you need ubuntu-restricted-extras, i believe
[01:21] <Corvette> will apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras work
[01:21] <genii> Usually
[01:23] <CountryfiedLinux> How do you add unity desktop to .xinitrc? I know how to use .xinitrc I just don't know the exact syntax. Is it unity-desktop just like gnome-desktop for gnome?
[01:27] <Corvette> the restricted extras do not contain those packages
[01:28] <ObrienDave> http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/libavcodec-extra-53
[01:31] <psyrus> my mbr got removed i have no cd drive and all i have my md connected to a dock i'm on a xp system i gotta get the mbr fixed ... someone please help me
[01:31] <psyrus> *md (hd) sorry it's late for me
[01:31] <Julien-Helix> download rufus
[01:32] <Julien-Helix> psyrus: http://rufus.akeo.ie/ it should do the job
[01:32] <psyrus> k ty Julien-Helix
[01:32] <psyrus> ty ty
[01:33] <hannasanarion> My Ubuntu desktop machine crashes several times a day while I'm just browsing the internet. Anyone have tips for problem solving?
[01:34] <CountryfiedLinux> hannasanarion, Does it do that gray window freezing thingy?
[01:34] <CountryfiedLinux> hannasanarion, seems to happen a lot with Firefox, here anyways.
[01:34] <hannasanarion> No, everything just stops, I can often hear my hard drive spinning
[01:34] <hannasanarion> I use chrome
[01:35] <CountryfiedLinux> hannasanarion, Just a thought, perhaps your hard drive might be loose? Happens to me sometimes, I just unplug, plug back in, and reboot.
[01:35] <hannasanarion> no mouse movement, no keyboard. I have a shortcut for xkill, it doesn't work cntrl-alt-backspace doesn't work, cntrl-alt-f2 ususally doesn't work
[01:35] <hannasanarion> You know, I haven't opened up this machine for a while. I'll check the hard drive, and blow out some dust while I'm at it.
[01:36] <qwertyomen> hannasanarion: it sounds like the hdd, next time it's up check the SMART on the disk
[01:37] <Corvette> Okay so this .deb is looking for libavcodec-extra-53 but on Ubuntu 14.04 I have libavcodec-extra-54
[01:37] <Corvette> what do
[01:39] <psyrus> i just wanna fix the mbr on my hd/ restore grub i got the hd plugged into a dock i'm on an xp system i don't wanna format the drive
[01:39] <psyrus> rufus want's to format the hd
[01:40] <qwertyomen> psyrus: it's easier to repair grub on the original system it came from
[01:41] <psyrus> maybe not i'm trying to figure out how to use it
[01:41] <qwertyomen> psyrus: I'm pretty sure you can't fix it from XP. This happens enough in the lab I had to write this
[01:42] <qwertyomen> psyrus: cst.speedypetey.com/grub.html
[01:42] <psyrus> k
[01:44] <psyrus> is there any iso tools i can transfer onto a 32 mg flash drive i don't have anything bigger atm
[01:45] <qwertyomen> psyrus: do you have CD's?
[01:46] <psyrus> it broke ...
[01:46] <psyrus> dvd broke
[01:46] <Julien-Helix> psyrus: you need to boot into linux somehow to fix grub
[01:46] <hannasanarion> Qwertynomen, still here?
[01:46] <qwertyomen> hannasanarion: yup
[01:47] <psyrus> my computer boots up into grub rescue
[01:47] <hannasanarion> The hard drive is solid, it was a little dusty inside, but not terrible
[01:47] <psyrus> i tryed to fix the mbr
[01:47] <psyrus> *tried to fix the mbr from rescue using set it didn't work
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 and the cups printer name is HP Officejet 100 Mobile Printer
 how do i get windows 8 to connect to this printer
[01:48] <qwertyomen> hannaasanarion: I guess that's good! but I guess that doesn't solve the problem...
[01:48] <psyrus> qwertyomen: pm please
[01:48] <psyrus> qwertyomen: brb
[01:49] <qwertyomen> psyrus: My shift just ended and I'm off for the night... sorry man
[01:50] <qwertyomen> Stinkin students leaving early... lol lame.
[01:50] <psyrus> qwertyomen: you don't know of any bootable iso's i can stick on a 32 mg flash disk to boot my computer and restore grub ?
[01:50] <jmadero> my system keeps freezing up on shutdowns - where can I dig for a log that would tell me why
[01:50] <psyrus> omfg ..
[01:50] <psyrus> k
[01:51] <hannasanarion> wtf? now it won't boot
[01:54] <basketball> action
[01:54] <mxvxrts> psyrus, If you used the bootrepair app to fix did you save the bootinfo summary?
[01:54] <mxvxrts> hannasanarion, No swearing or acronyms of please.
[01:55] <hannasanarion> my bad, sorry
[01:55] <ObrienDave> Corvette, http://askubuntu.com/questions/153884/why-does-ubuntu-restricted-extras-want-to-remove-some-libav-packages
[01:55] <hannasanarion> Alright, so now my computer starts up, and there's no output to the screen, no bios, nothing
[01:56] <Bashing-om> psyrus: If you know how the hard drive is partitioed, might be possible to boot the OS from grub and then fix grub ?? Maybe.
[01:56] <Corvette> obriendave is it a bad idea to remove libavcodec54 and replace it with libavcodec53
[01:57] <ObrienDave> Corvette, sorry, i don't know about that one.
[01:59] <ObrienDave> Corvette, seems like 54 is just a version number. might be backwards compatible. not sure on that
[02:00] <TuxThePenguin> What's the use of VLC?
[02:00] <mhoney> playing videos and music
[02:01] <TuxThePenguin> okay thanks
[02:02] <psyrus> mxvxrts: no ....
[02:02] <psyrus> ib btw
[02:02] <mxvxrts> !bootinfo | psyrus this will help us diagnose
[02:03] <psyrus> the hd is partitioned
[02:04] <mxvxrts> !who | psyrus
[02:04] <hannasanarion> Okay, this is serious now, I can't get my desktop to start. after I opened the case.
[02:04] <ObrienDave> hannasanarion, check for loose cards, cables, connections, etc...
[02:05] <hannasanarion> I didn't move any parts, just tried to wiggle the hard drive a bit to see if it was loose, and blew out some dust.
[02:05] <psyrus> !mxvxrts: the hd is partitioned
[02:06] <mxvxrts> psyrus, And that means what in relation to my communications to you?
[02:06] <arog> hi
[02:07] <arog> I am interested in replacing Windows on my desktop with Ubuntu Server since I only use it as a media box. I was wondering what the benefits of samba vs NFS were
[02:07] <Bashing-om> psyrus: If we can figure out where in the hard disk is the '/' partition, we can try and boot the operating system from that grub prompt.
[02:07] <arog> All other machines in my network at Apple Devices (Macs, AppleTV) so which would be the better alternative?
[02:07] <psyrus> mxvxrts: sorry i meant to tell that to bashing-om
[02:08] <psyrus> Bashing-om: how ? from grub rescue>
[02:09] <mxvxrts> psyrus, Cool, well the bootscript would be a great way of diagnosing this, takes out guessing and answers many questions. ;)
[02:09] <Bashing-om> psyrus: Id this grub rescue you are at, or 'grub >' ??
[02:10] <hannasanarion> all the connections feel good. still nothing
[02:10] <Bashing-om> od/is*
[02:10] <psyrus> Bashing-om: my hd is in a docking station now i removed it from my computer
[02:10] <mxvxrts> I would use supergrub to boot it much easier
[02:10] <psyrus> mxvxrts: k i
[02:11] <hannasanarion> OlbrienDave, all the connections feel good, still nothing
[02:11] <psyrus> mxvxrts:
[02:11] <psyrus> mxvxrts: sry i
[02:11] <hannasanarion> ObrienDave *
[02:11] <ObrienDave> hannasanarion, hmm, out of ideas at the moment
[02:12] <hannasanarion> alright
[02:12] <hannasanarion> anyone else have an idea? I opened the computer to check if the HDD was loose (it wasn't) and now it won't boot
[02:12] <mxvxrts> psyrus, Take a deep breath, not the end of the world. ;)
[02:12] <psyrus> mxvxrts: yeah this will fit on my flash it's only 12 mb i'll give it a try
[02:13] <ObrienDave> hannasanarion, how old is the CMOS battery?
[02:13] <psyrus> mxvxrts: i
[02:13] <hannasanarion> ObrienDave, it's about 3 years old
[02:14] <psyrus> mxvxrts: thankyou
[02:14] <TuxThePenguin> What's the best desktop environment to use?
[02:14] <ObrienDave> hannasanarion, k, shouldn't be an issue then
[02:14] <mxvxrts> TuxThePenguin, best is subjective, probably th one you like
[02:15] <ObrienDave> TuxThePenguin, that is a decision only you can make
[02:15] <TuxThePenguin> Ok, better question. What desktop environments are there for ubuntu
[02:15] <ObrienDave> I run Xubuntu, hence, i like XFCE
[02:15] <hannasanarion> TuxThePenguin, Unity, Xfce, KDE, Gnome are most popular
[02:16] <hannasanarion> unity is default, KDE and Gnome are most popular
[02:16] <TuxThePenguin> Ok, and whats the diff. between a shell and a desktop environment
[02:16] <hannasanarion> Try each, and see what you like
[02:16] <hannasanarion> ObrienDave: any other ideas?
[02:16] <TuxThePenguin> Easy to install/use, I assume?
[02:16] <hannasanarion> yeah, you just install it, and then select the one you want at login
[02:16] <mxvxrts> TuxThePenguin, Please do some research, this is support, new users need to do this, not ask every question that comes to your mind here.
[02:17] <TuxThePenguin> Okay, will do
[02:18] <ObrienDave> hannasanarion, thinking.... (smell the wood burning?) ;P
[02:19] <basketball> http://askubuntu.com/questions/484825/printing-with-cups-in-windows-8
[02:19] <hannasanarion> Alright, so I have a computer that won't boot. All the normal sounds are there, but nothing is displayed on the screen. It was working fine (aside from occasional crashes) until I opened it up, checked that the HDD wasn't moving, and then blew out some dust. I'm guessing that means it's a hardware issue. but I don't know where to start.
[02:20] <pnunn> expand on the "sounds" hannasanarion
[02:20] <TuxThePenguin> Based on what you said, it might be video-card related
[02:20] <hannasanarion> fans work properly, I can hear the hard drive spin for a few seconds, exactly what I expect
[02:21] <pnunn> Do you get a beep from post?
[02:21] <hannasanarion> TuxThePenguin, would plugging directly into the motherboard rather than my graphics card troubleshoot that?
[02:21] <pnunn> Certainly worth trying hannasanarion
[02:22] <pnunn> Could be selecting the wrong graphics output
[02:22] <TuxThePenguin> So, its a black screen or does it look like a terminal
[02:22] <pnunn> I'd take the card out all together infact first and then try the MB graphics. If that works, put it back in again.
[02:22] <hannasanarion> pnunn, no, but I don't remember if there's normally a beep. Before I updated to 14.04 I had it set to beep when it gets to GRUB, but I don't think that carried over
[02:23] <hannasanarion> it's a black screen, no bios, no grub
[02:23] <hannasanarion> pnunn, okay, I'll try that next
[02:23] <TuxThePenguin> That could be your video card, but it could also be what the card is plugged into
[02:24] <ObrienDave> yea, try changing slots
[02:24] <TuxThePenguin> Search your exact problem on Google. Google is your best friend sometimes
[02:24] <hannasanarion> If it was the video card, would I still be able to control it using the keyboard?
[02:24] <TuxThePenguin> Yeah
[02:24] <ObrienDave> probably
[02:24] <hannasanarion> alright, well that doesn't seem to be happening
[02:24] <TuxThePenguin> I mean...I guess it could (least likely) be the monitor too
[02:24] <hannasanarion> I've tried typing in my password, and then using the magic sysrq, and nothing happened
[02:25] <pnunn> I'd still take out the graphics card if you suspect it, could be pulling down the bus.
[02:25] <pnunn> Do the keyboard indicators work?
[02:26] <hannasanarion> pnunn, no they don't
[02:26] <TuxThePenguin> pnunn, what did you want her to do with the video card again?
[02:26] <zelot> hi, where can i get some help in regards to issues with mount?
[02:26] <TuxThePenguin> After taking it out
[02:26] <hannasanarion> TuxThePenguin, try booting with monitors connected to motherboard, I think
[02:26] <pnunn> TuxThePonguin, sounds like there is on board graphics as well, so try that without the card, but sounds pretty low level.
[02:26] <pnunn> Yeh, just one monitor though, keep it simple.
[02:27] <hannasanarion> pnunn, right
[02:27] <TuxThePenguin> Makes sense to me :)
[02:27] <pnunn> process of elimination.
[02:27] <TuxThePenguin> Along with Occam's Razor
[02:27] <Bashing-om> zelot: If you are on a supported release of 'buntu, this is a good place to ask.
[02:27] <TuxThePenguin> Any solution is most likely the simplest one
[02:28] <wllrt> I'm a emacs newb and looking to prevent rsi. I'm using a thinkpad keyboard. Any emacs users here please recommend a good keybinding strategy? Thanks.
[02:29] <zelot> I am having difficulties mounting an external network drive on ubuntu. It was working fine a couple of days ago and now its not working. I can access the file via smbclient just fine
[02:30] <zelot> this is the file from fstab: 10.2.0.77:wmware /media/beefcake nfs rw,hard,intr 0 0
[02:30] <hannasanarion> pnunn, TuxThePenguin, alright, so pulling the graphics card did not help
[02:30] <TuxThePenguin> So, it could be the motherboard or the monitor
[02:31] <ObrienDave> sounds like we just witnessed a MB going south
[02:31] <TuxThePenguin> What is MB?
[02:31] <ObrienDave> Mother Board
[02:31] <pnunn> How many monitors do you have there? Just to be sure, try all the video connectors, but it doesn't sound good.
[02:31] <robjloranger> quick question about print settings. i have everything set in printer options through admin panels, and also through cups web interface. but each time i go to print the default settings do not match what i have set. even though on checking them they are still set correctly system wide. just not in individual programs, ie. browsers, ocular etc
[02:31] <TuxThePenguin> Then yes, I agree
[02:32] <pnunn> The other thing you can try is just wiggle (technical term) all of the connectors, including the power one, just to be sure there all seated. properly.
[02:32] <TuxThePenguin> hannasanarion, did you restart your computer? Get a BSOD?
[02:32] <hannasanarion> alright, i'll wiggle all the connectors, and then try my vga monitor
[02:32] <TuxThePenguin> Before the problem I mean
[02:33] <robjloranger> is there a second location these preferences are kept? a file somewhere that is for whatever reason not being overwritten
[02:33] <zelot> anyone? :/
[02:33] <hannasanarion> TuxThePenguin, no, It had just been crashing every once in a while (mostly when running several youtube videos at once, or viewing an imgur album), so I turned it off to check the hard drive
[02:33] <ObrienDave> try different monitors, different video ports, check ALL connections, etc...
[02:33] <hannasanarion> I'm t wiggling all the connections, and plugging in the other monitor now
[02:33] <TuxThePenguin> Okay, well I think the crashing is a RAM issue
[02:34] <Bashing-om> zelot: While awaiting the network gurus, does the mount point "/media/beefcake" still exist, and can yoy ping 10.2.0.77 ??
[02:34] <zelot> yes to both
[02:35] <pnunn> Good thought TuxThePenguin pop the ram out and re-seat it too hannasanarion.
[02:35] <TuxThePenguin> The crashing-while-watching-YouTube thing usually means RAM, and since you seem to possibly be having a video problem...maybe they are linked?
[02:36] <robjloranger> sorry i missed everything cause i just joined, is it not booting?
[02:36] <TuxThePenguin> No, she doesnt get video
[02:36] <TuxThePenguin> And it seems peripherals are failing too
[02:37] <robjloranger> so how are we sure it isn't booting? with no video.
[02:37] <TuxThePenguin> Yeah, you're right...sorry XD
[02:37] <Bashing-om> Zethrok: Sorry, I do not know else.. others will have to advise.
[02:37] <robjloranger> more so, how are we sure it is not that the machine will not boot
[02:37] <ObrienDave> no beeps, no keyboard lights
[02:38] <robjloranger> ya that's not booting
[02:38] <TuxThePenguin> Also, she mentioned it crashing after having too many youtube videos open. That's a RAM issue most likely... I dont know if that can be linked or not
[02:38] <hannasanarion> hey, I've never done RAM before, any tricks on getting it back in?
[02:38] <robjloranger> the ram is a good place to start. try removing all sticks of ram and booting, if it works: add one at a time until you find the dead one.
[02:39] <pnunn> Just make sure it's the right way around (will only go one way) then just push hard, it takes a bit of force to get the latches back down.
[02:39] <ObrienDave> yes, you GENTLY hold the side tabs open
[02:39] <pnunn> One end at a time.
[02:39] <robjloranger> hannasanarion, yes. some are inserted at an angle, then rocked into the straight position.. one sec
[02:39] <ObrienDave> latches, side tabs, same diff
[02:39] <hannasanarion> robjloranger: it won't boot without the ram in
[02:40] <pnunn> No, but it should beep like crazy.
[02:40] <hannasanarion> no beeping
[02:40] <robjloranger> hannasanarion, did you get any beeps?
[02:40] <benwright> With Windows 8.1 dual booting with Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, the partition manager in the installer doesn't recognised the free space not allocated to the NTFS partition.
[02:40] <pnunn> Doesn't sound good.
[02:40] <TuxThePenguin> Could the BIOS be failing?
[02:40] <pnunn> Don't suppose you have a multi meter handy.
[02:40] <benwright> Wondering what the issues is with this, someone said this could be to do with Windows new dynamic disks, however the disk type on the free space partition is basic.
[02:40] <hannasanarion> no I don't, and I'm jobless atm, so I would really rather not go get one
[02:40] <TuxThePenguin> By failing, I mean could it not be loading
[02:41]  * ObrienDave votes for MB fail or CMOS battery died
[02:41] <robjloranger> sounds like some sort of motherboard issue, weather bios or full blown dead mother board it's hard to say
[02:41] <pnunn> OK, could just eliminate the power supply with one. Doesn't sound too promising though.
[02:41] <TuxThePenguin> It might be BIOS i think...but power supply is a good idea too
[02:41] <ObrienDave> ^^
[02:41] <benwright> Any ideas?
[02:41] <hannasanarion> if it's a power problem, would the fan and hard drive be spinning?
[02:41] <robjloranger> hannasanarion, are you getting any fans or anything? no light on the case?
[02:42] <hannasanarion> all the lights are working properly
[02:42] <hannasanarion> fans and hard drives are spinning
[02:42] <pnunn> Yeh hanna, they can, could have 12V but not 5V. Seen that before.
[02:42] <TuxThePenguin> Then its BIOS i think
[02:42] <robjloranger> ok so PS (powersupply) sounds fine
[02:43] <robjloranger> is it very old?
[02:43] <benwright> What is hannasanarion issue? I might have had something similar before.
[02:43] <pnunn> Not so fast on that one robjloranger, seen one rail of a supply go down and keep things like fans happy. Could be as simple as no power good line.
[02:43] <hannasanarion> No, got it winter 2010
[02:43] <TuxThePenguin> benwright, she cant boot up it seems
[02:43] <ObrienDave> no beeps, no keyboard lights
[02:43] <benwright> Alright, where does it fail in the boot process?
[02:43] <benwright> So you see the BIOS screen?
[02:43] <robjloranger> from the get go
[02:43] <pnunn> There is no boot process.
[02:43] <hannasanarion> I don't know. No display, no bios
[02:43] <ObrienDave> no video either
[02:43] <TuxThePenguin> She sees nothing at all
[02:43] <benwright> Yeah, hardware failure.
[02:43] <TuxThePenguin> Well, maybe
[02:43] <TuxThePenguin> It could be BIOS
[02:43] <robjloranger> we made it that far :)
[02:44] <hannasanarion> it's not the gpu, and it's not the RAM
[02:44] <benwright> If you don't see the bios screen at all, you motherboard may be fried.
[02:44] <pnunn> Pretty unlikely Tux, if no sign of life at all. More likely MB
[02:44] <benwright> What is your motherboard model?
[02:44] <robjloranger> that's where i'm headed
[02:44] <TuxThePenguin> Okay, good point
[02:44] <benwright> I have had the same thing before.
[02:44] <hannasanarion> how could that have happened though? it was working fine before I opened it
[02:44] <robjloranger> me too
[02:44] <benwright> Luckily motherboards are not too expensive.
[02:44] <TuxThePenguin> Been a while since I've had a hardware failure of this magnitude
[02:45] <robjloranger> you opened it? what did you do once inside?
[02:45] <hannasanarion> it's a HP p6610f, all stock except graphics
[02:45] <benwright> hannasanarion Lots of reasons, possibly a fault in the product. How old is the motherboard?
[02:45] <hannasanarion> I wiggled the hard drive to see if it was loose, (it's not), then i blew out some dust
[02:45] <TuxThePenguin> Since it's stock, how old is the machine itself
[02:45] <hannasanarion> 2010
[02:45] <robjloranger> 6706f here :) canada?
[02:45] <hannasanarion> no, Arizona
[02:45] <TuxThePenguin> Got a warranty to cover it?
[02:45] <benwright> Generally a motherboard will have a set of LEDs on it
[02:46] <benwright> That flash to indicate error codes.
[02:46] <robjloranger> :( i thought the f was for french/english like here in canada.. anyway, sorry off topic
[02:46] <hannasanarion> here's the mb
[02:46] <benwright> You can always start the boot, look at the leds and decode them to the respective error.
[02:46] <hannasanarion> Manufacturer: FoxconnMotherboard Name: H-ALVORIX_HF-RS880-uATXHP/Compaq motherboard name: Alvorix-GL8E
[02:46] <dino82> Not sure if this is ubuntu/debian centric or what, but why is it that when I run php code in the CLI (php file.php) I get a ton of SNMP OID messages?  There's no snmp code in the php
[02:46] <TuxThePenguin> Foxconn, isnt that the Japanese manufacturer for apple? (off-topic I know)
[02:46] <benwright> What I did when this happened was I got the motherboard manual, and I looked at the led error codes and then found out my motherboard was fucked :P
[02:46] <somsip> dino82: paste examples using paste.ubuntu.com
[02:47] <somsip> !language | benwright
[02:47] <robjloranger> lol
[02:47] <benwright> Sorry I was on #ubuntu before !language existed :/
[02:47] <hannasanarion> foxxconn is chinese I think
[02:47] <benwright> in 2007
[02:47] <somsip> benwright: then you know to avoid swearing...
[02:47] <TuxThePenguin> well, anyways could your hard drive's data be affected from a MB failure
[02:48] <hannasanarion> well, i assume not, and I have the important stuff backed up
[02:48] <benwright> somsip Yep, best ban words not the context they are used in.
[02:48] <TuxThePenguin> Okay, that's good at least.
[02:48] <benwright> somsip You can have horrific opinions that don't use "curse" words.
[02:48] <dino82> somsip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7661497/
[02:48] <benwright> Yep, so if you aren't seeing the BIOS screen the HD isn't the issue.
[02:48] <benwright> At least it is failing before that point.
[02:49] <hannasanarion> yeah, thre's 5 leds, labelled cr1-5, and cr5 is lit green
[02:49] <TuxThePenguin> Green is usually a positive color
[02:49] <benwright> Alright, so in the motherboard manual that probably means something, green usually indicates good.
[02:49] <ObrienDave> only if it's a dual color led
[02:49] <benwright> Do you hear the disk spinning?
[02:49] <robjloranger> yes
[02:50] <TuxThePenguin> So, hypothetically if the motherboard isnt failing or dead, what could it be?
[02:50] <benwright> So alternatively you may not be seeing the BIOS screen because you aren't rendering the framebuffer to a monitor...
[02:50] <benwright> And it is booting.
[02:50] <hannasanarion> I heard the disk spinning when it first booted,but not afterwards
[02:50] <somsip> dino82: try this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21257589/ubuntu-typing-php-in-terminal-shows-a-lot-of-errors
[02:50] <benwright> Oh, hmm
[02:50] <benwright> Still sounds like a motherboard failure.
[02:50] <robjloranger> when you try to cold boot, from fully off, does one of the led's blink in a pattern?
[02:51] <benwright> What component on the board did you change when it started failing
[02:51] <TuxThePenguin> Could it be a virus? I agree with MB failure but is a virus a possibility?
[02:51] <benwright> Or did it randomly fail this morning?
[02:51] <dino82> thanks, I'll try it again
[02:51] <hannasanarion> no
[02:51] <dino82> worked, thanks
[02:51] <pnunn> TuxThePenguin little or no chance its a virus.
[02:51] <benwright> A virus would want your PC to boot so it could steal your credit card info.
[02:51] <somsip> dino82: np
[02:52] <benwright> And no, wouldn't be that.
[02:52] <hannasanarion> robjloranger: the light is always on, nothing changes when I boot
[02:52] <benwright> Either your GPU or motherboard has failed.
[02:52] <benwright> Sounds like the motherboard.
[02:52] <benwright> If you have another board you can test the GPU in isolation
[02:52] <robjloranger> so there is no error code via led
[02:52] <TuxThePenguin> DO you have a spare?
[02:52] <pnunn> or psu
[02:52] <hannasanarion> benwright: the failure didn't randomly happen, it happened after I took it apart to do a little cleaning
[02:52] <benwright> :/ Static damage?
[02:52] <TuxThePenguin> Oh you could have shorted out the board
[02:52] <hannasanarion> I took the gpu out to see if the computer would boot without it, and no dice
[02:52] <mxvxrts> benwright, robjloranger, use nicks to preface answers to others here please
[02:53] <robjloranger> mxcxrts, sure no problem
[02:53] <hannasanarion> if it's static damage or a short, can it be fixed, or am I out of luck
[02:53] <benwright> I actually had a question of my own, but I thought I would earn some credit before asking it :P I don't know if I have been that much help.
[02:53] <mxvxrts> cool thanks
[02:53] <TuxThePenguin> hannasanarion when you say take apart can you expand on the extent of what you did
[02:53] <benwright> hannasanarion Integrated circuits make that almost impossible.
[02:53] <somsip> benwright: go for it. The hardware support issue is well off topic anyway
[02:54] <robjloranger> benwright, what's your question?
[02:54] <TuxThePenguin> We can take this over to the offtopic channel
[02:54] <TuxThePenguin> If that helps somsip
[02:54] <somsip> TuxThePenguin: that would be helpful, thanks
[02:54] <benwright> Well I noticed in Windows 8.1 that when making a free partition space this isn't detected by Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[02:54] <TuxThePenguin> Well, I'll be over there.
[02:54] <hannasanarion> Okay, what's the name of the offtopic channel?
[02:54] <benwright> Which is a bit annoying, I am guessing this is windows not being compatible from my understanding of how gparted works I don't see how it couldn't be detected.
[02:54] <mxvxrts> !uefi | benwright
[02:54] <hannasanarion> is it just #offtopic
[02:54] <TuxThePenguin> #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:54] <somsip> !ot | hannasanarion
[02:55] <TuxThePenguin> Ubottu, she's heading over now :)
[02:55] <benwright> UEFI could be an issue, except this PC had funtoo linux on it for 2 years :/
[02:55] <TuxThePenguin> Oh well then D
[02:55] <TuxThePenguin> XD
[02:55] <litropy> I'm on 13.10. Is there any way to make it so that when I have multiple windows of an application open, and I click the icon to show all the windows, it DOESN'T do the zoom out animation?
[02:55] <benwright> But not sure how UEFI interacts with partitions... I will check this out.
[02:55] <mxvxrts> benwright, more basic info might be helpful. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[02:56] <robjloranger> oh geeze, UEFI is a bit beyond me benwright. but the whole partition mapping is different as far as i know. ubuntu can be compatible, it's just a bit more work.. i have a link somewhere
[02:57] <robjloranger> benwright, check here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/UEFI-and-BIOS
[02:57] <benwright> Oh yeah this makes sense, windows messed with boot support on the GPT table -_-
[02:57] <robjloranger> benwright, it's not the computers UEFI functionality, but win 8 creating a UEFI partition map/table whichever it's called
[02:58] <benwright> Yep, this isn't supported by ubuntu which is why it cannot see the disk.
[02:58] <benwright> the partition***
[02:58] <benwright> This is going to make it uber painful to install.
[02:58] <robjloranger> benwright, if you prefer the old way, you can apparently get win 8 to install without UEFI, i think it's in that link i put up
[02:59] <mxvxrts> benwright, This is an OEM correct?
[03:00] <robjloranger> benwright, sorry not that one. but in this link there is info on getting win 8 to disable uefi  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[03:00] <mxvxrts> manufacturers install of W8=OEM  benwright
[03:00] <benwright> I might just install ubuntu in efi mode
[03:00] <benwright> I reinstalled windows on my PC after using linux for 12 years, for the first time the other week.
[03:01] <benwright> But going to work out this bloody UEFI nonsense.
[03:02] <benwright> Thanks for the help
[03:09] <luis_> good night to you all, i like to ask if there is any way to install xubuntu on a blackberry curve 8520 phone? any tutorial or step by step guide to do it?
[03:17] <gain> hi
[03:17] <gain> I recently installed ubuntu server -- how do I figure out what my IP is?
[03:17] <luis_> hi
[03:17] <gain> and #2 is it possible to connect to the server with a hostname, I tried ssh the hostname and i am getting cannot be found
[03:18] <mxvxrts> luis_, Not really, there is ubuntu touch a #ubuntu-touch
[03:18] <luis_> Gain: click on your network manager and then on information and it will let you know your IP
[03:18] <gain> i dont have a GUI
[03:19] <gain> only command line
[03:19] <luis_> thank you very much Mxvxrts
[03:19] <gain> i didnt want to waste resources, is it possible to do that via command line?
[03:19] <luis_> lets see
[03:20] <gain> to be honest i think I am more itnerested in part 2 of my question: SSH into a name like mediaserver instead of 192.168.X.X
[03:21] <gain> oh i need to install some daemon
[03:21] <luis_> sudo apt-get install curl
[03:21] <gain> ill do that
[03:21] <luis_> thats the command to install that
[03:22] <luis_> then do this: curl ifconfig.me
[03:22] <luis_> and it will give the ip info you need
[03:27] <BlackWeb> After I updated my system with a Fresh install of Ubuntu 14.04, I'm finding that NO video player can play MP4 files without freezing every minute, or so - I've tried 14.04 - 64Bit & 14.04 - 32Bit and still same problem
[03:27] <BlackWeb> does anyone else experience this problem
[03:27] <mnaser> i'm trying to disable apparmor, i ran "service apparmor stop" "service apparmor teardown" and "update-rc.d -f apparmor remove" .. and i'm still seeing apparmor DENIED in my syslog
[03:27] <lotuspsychje> BlackWeb: even vlc player?
[03:27] <holstein> BlackWeb: after you updated your sysetm with a fresh install? so was it a fresh install?
[03:27] <holstein> !restricted
[03:28] <holstein> make sure its not a codec issue..
[03:28] <mnaser> apparmor_status says "0 profiles are loaded." as well
[03:28] <BlackWeb> yeah I've tried (VLC, Mplayer, Kaffeine) Every player freezes but they vary when they freeze
[03:28] <BlackWeb> But every 2 minutes MP4 files freeze which almost all my HD 1080p movies are in mp4
[03:29] <lotuspsychje> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras | BlackWeb try what holstein suggested
[03:29] <kidpool> Hey all. I am trying to combine multiple hard drives on my ubuntu tower via ssh. Can someone how I might go about this? I know I need to use LVM
[03:31] <kidpool> Anyone know?
[03:31] <lotuspsychje> kidpool: what you mean by 'combine'
[03:31] <BlackWeb> Alright I just did those 2 Commands in the terminal which the First command where it installs restricted packaged pretty much came back with it saying all packages are already install only did the second command  (sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh) Do something I'll try playing a movie now
[03:32] <holstein> BlackWeb: why? thats for dvd playback, friend
[03:32] <kidpool> lotuspychje: concatenate
[03:32] <holstein> BlackWeb: is it a dvd? is it a fresh install? or an upgrade?
[03:32] <kidpool> lotuspsychje: concatenate
[03:32] <BlackWeb> Yea its a fresh install of 14.04 ,  & Movie is a mp4 file on Hard Drive
[03:32] <lotuspsychje> kidpool: not sure if i follow you mate, whats your end goal?
[03:33] <BlackWeb> Went to that website above, and it mention 2 commands to do
[03:33] <holstein> BlackWeb: so, you'll want to make sure you have the proper codecs in place.. no need to enable dvd playback
[03:33] <BlackWeb> Dvd Playback - What is that exactly
[03:33] <kidpool> lotuspsychje: 3 seperate hard drives that plug in via usb. I want them to be represented by a single volume. when i send data to it,  i want data to be spread across the several hard drives
[03:33] <holstein> BlackWeb: you need the specific codec support for the files you have.. you wont be able to causally skim a wiki page and copy paste a command
[03:34] <BlackWeb> I'll search Synaptics Package manager for mp4 codecs
[03:35] <holstein> BlackWeb: you can try reading through these and see what applies to you
[03:35] <lotuspsychje> !lvm | kidpool maybe here
[03:35] <lotuspsychje> BlackWeb: you also sure you installed correct graphics driver? youtube play hd 1080p?
[03:36] <BlackWeb> Yea, Which right now I'm using 14.04 - 32Bit   - Which seems to be running alot better then the 64Bit
[03:36] <holstein> BlackWeb: 64bit 14.04?
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> BlackWeb: i use 64bit fine
[03:37] <holstein> i use 64 or 32.. they both run fine
[03:37] <robjloranger> hi, i hate printing. ok really i just want to know where else, other than system/admin settings panels, printer default settings are stored... they are being cheeky
[03:37] <BlackWeb> Yeah right now currently using 32Bit of 14.04   - I first installed the 64bit one and it seemed alot worse
[03:37] <Neo31> Hello folks, anyone familiar with web2py+apache installation please ?
[03:37] <holstein> BlackWeb: if you had 64bit 13.10 and you are comparing it to 32bit 14.04, there can be more going on there..
[03:38] <lotuspsychje> !lamp | Neo31
[03:38] <lotuspsychje> kidpool: maybe the ##hardware guys might also know?
[03:38] <BlackWeb> No I tried 64Bit 14.04 ,   Havent tried 13.10   - Upgraded from 12.04  32Bit,  Did fresh install of 14.04 64Bit first
[03:39] <lotuspsychje> robjloranger: what printer brand do you have?
[03:39] <Neo31> lotuspsychje, I know how to setup lamp, but I am having issues with apache configuration to work with web2py
[03:40] <holstein> BlackWeb: so, its not a fresh install then?
[03:40] <lotuspsychje> Neo31: maybe the #httpd guys might know it?
[03:40] <BlackWeb> It is a fresh install
[03:40] <Deihmos> why would you need ro disable uefi
[03:40] <Neo31> thanks lotuspsychje
[03:40] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | Deihmos
[03:40] <BlackWeb> Which I have a movie playing now and seems like since I enable dvd playback its not freezing for the time being
[03:40] <Deihmos> I know what it is
[03:40] <BlackWeb> I'll watch it
[03:41] <robjloranger> lotuspsychje, sorry. epson. it was fine previously.. then i was printing photos, from a second paper tray, now it won't forget the settings from photo pronting
[03:41] <robjloranger> printing
[03:41] <BlackWeb> Thanks :) Everyone
[03:41] <holstein> BlackWeb: since you have added codec support
[03:41] <BlackWeb> yea
[03:42] <lotuspsychje> Deihmos: what is your specific issue then?
[03:42] <Deihmos> I have no issue. I guess I was looking at an old message
[03:43] <lotuspsychje> robjloranger: try apt-cache search epson, i think there are some tools for epson around
[03:43] <mxvxrts> robjloranger, On occasion with printer problems I just remove the driver and reinstall in the printer app, mine has no specific configs.
[03:44] <robjloranger> the thing is that the printer works fine, i can manually set the print options when printing via the dialog but nothing will use the defaults i have set
[03:46] <holstein> robjloranger: what settings? you mean, quality settings? are you sure the settings are not changing?
[03:47] <robjloranger> holstein, i mean the paper size and source settings, also quality too
[03:47] <mxvxrts> Deihmos, If you do not answer others by using their nick you will likely get lost in the shuffle.
[03:49] <psyrus> i got nano linux running off a 32 mg pendrive i can see my hd's how can i restore the mbr ?
[03:49] <psyrus> (grub 2)
[03:49] <holstein> psyrus: the text editor nano?
[03:49] <psyrus> gui
[03:50] <holstein> psyrus: regardless, you'll need a windows cd to restore an mbr from windwos
[03:50] <psyrus> i want grub back
[03:50] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[03:50] <psyrus> k
[03:51] <mxvxrts> psyrus, If you use supergrub you can boot to the install and do it from there, much easier, if this is the grub bootloader http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[03:51] <psyrus> ya'll are awesome ty
[03:54] <mxvxrts> psyrus, In the future have a live ubuntu dvd/usb and boot it on the broken computer and than come here, much easier to work in that environment.
[04:03] <psyrus> wow!
[04:03] <psyrus> so cool
[04:07] <psyrus> computer is sick fast on nano
[04:07] <psyrus> i5
[04:07] <psyrus> WOW!!!
[04:08] <holstein> psyrus: on nano?
[04:08] <psyrus> y
[04:08] <holstein> psyrus: the text editor nano?
[04:08] <psyrus> hs!!
[04:08] <psyrus> dual
[04:08] <psyrus> gui
[04:08] <psyrus> and term
[04:09] <psyrus> i got my hd back ty ya'll
[04:10] <holstein> psyrus: ? you got the boot sector back.. the rest was always there..
[04:10] <psyrus> not yet i got access to my hd though
[04:10] <psyrus> i don't cae
[04:10] <psyrus> *care
[04:11] <holstein> you could have always accessed it from a live CD..
[04:11] <psyrus> it
[04:11] <psyrus> broke
[04:11] <psyrus> dirty
[04:12] <holstein> psyrus: if it broke, it would be broken.. regardless.. glad you are back on your machine
[04:12] <psyrus> ty
[04:13] <psyrus> i owe ya
[04:13] <psyrus> ya
[04:13] <psyrus> big help
[04:13] <psyrus> it
[04:14] <psyrus> dark i cant see keyboard . blind
[04:14] <linz> asdf
[04:14] <linz> aaa
[04:14] <linz> fuck
[04:14] <psyrus> :) lol
[04:14] <mxvxrts> !language | linz
[04:15] <khaitanya> good meta-font packages ?
[04:15] <ubuntuuser> ello guys. I use Ubuntu 14.04 Trusty Tahr. I am unable to compile .cpp programs using gcc. May I know whats the reason. Is g++ not installed by default?
[04:16] <ubuntuuser> sorry *its Hello
[04:16] <SlimShady> sorry
[04:17] <mxvxrts> khaitanya, good is subjective look in the ubuntu software center for what is available.
[04:17] <SlimShady> is subjective
[04:17] <khaitanya> mxvxrts: synaptic gives way too much single fonts. trying usc..
[04:17] <SlimShady> i have a single handedly fix the line
[04:18] <mxvxrts> khaitanya, both have the same info
[04:18] <SlimShady> khaitanya, good is subjective look amazing above my hands full with my foodstamp card
[04:19] <khaitanya> slimshady: a "known" and "tested" monospace terminal font is in search
[04:19] <SlimShady> i tested the server
[04:24] <khaitanya> problem: installed fonts are not shown in gnome-termninal's font selection. gnome-terminal's problem ?
[04:28] <Stanley00> khaitanya: first, check fonts' permission, make sure you can read it. Then, you need to update font cache, aka "fc-cache", Last, maybe you need to restart gnome-terminal
[04:29] <kidpool> I am trying to mount a volume group (LVM) via ssh. However when I use lvdisplay nothing happens. Suggestions?
[04:29] <khaitanya> stanley00: ok. working now. thanks. :)
[04:29] <Stanley00> khaitanya: you're welcome
[04:34] <kidpool> Anyone? :(
[04:36] <mxvxrts> kidpool, https://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc
[04:40] <kidpool_> I set up a volume group in terminal and I am trying to mount it so ubuntu shows the group as a single volume. Can anyone help me?
[04:43] <khaitanya> kidpool_: i'm no help but paste.ubuntu.com would be good to start so that some one sees ur problem
[04:49] <kidpool> khaitanya: thanks
[04:52] <kidpool> I am having issues with LVM. Details on what I am trying to do and where I stand as of now are located here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7661871/
[04:55] <ram_> Hi, I am ram How To Reset Windows 8 Password Using Ubuntu 12.04
[04:57] <ram_> how to clear windows 8 password by using ubuntu 1211.04
[04:59] <litropy> I'm on 13.10. Is there any way to make it so that when I have multiple windows of an application open, and I click the icon to show all the windows, it DOESN'T do the zoom out animation?
[05:01] <dyu> i'm getting a "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host". i have no physical access to the machine. should i email my provider?
[05:02] <ram_> how to remove windows8 login password by using ununtu 12.04
[05:02] <litropy> ram_ you can't
[05:03] <ram_> what are possible suggestions
[05:04] <litropy> ram_, you can wipe the drive and install ubuntu
[05:04] <litropy> ram_, but you lose all your data
[05:04] <khaitanya> i got picasa on android but as it seems there no longer support for linux. so what should i use to see my photo-albums ?
[05:06] <ram_> how to remove windows 8 adm pwd  by using chntpw
[05:08] <khaitanya> ram_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1527985
[05:13] <babinlonston> Insatlled Ubuntu 14.04 then now i have installed Windows 7 in separate partition now only Windows 7 boots, there was not OS Choosing menu while System Starts, how to add the ubuntu in os choice
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> babinlonston: did you try sudo update-grub?
[05:14] <ram_> how to remove windows password using ununtu
[05:15] <babinlonston> lotuspsychje: no its not now entering into ubuntu, while i on the pC its straightly enter into Windows there was no OS choosing menu Displayed
[05:15] <ram_> m
[05:16] <ram_> how to remove windows8 login password by using ununtu 12.04
[05:16] <ram_> how to remove windows8 login password by using ununtu 12.04
[05:16] <ram_> how to remove windows8 login password by using ununtu 12.04
[05:16] <Ben64> !fixgrub | babinlonston
[05:16] <xangua> ram_: /join ##windows for windows issues
[05:16] <Ben64> ram_: yep, thats the way to get absolutely no help here
[05:16] <babinlonston> ok
[05:17] <Hakim1bal> any hacker here
[05:20] <pragmatism> I've used fuse to mount an s3 drive to /mnt/s3/, but even though I `sudo chown -R www-data:www-data /mnt/s3`, apache still can't write to it.  What permissions do I need to give /mnt/s3/?
[05:26] <Ben64> pragmatism: s3 drive?
[05:29] <Fall> afternoon folk, what can I do to supress having to enter my ssh passphrase every time i wish to communicate with remote servers? ssh-add ... but then save it to my user profile?
[05:30] <volkan> Can you suggest a text editor which is be able to show two files in the same windows like Notepad++ in Windows?
[05:30] <angch> volkan, gedit,
[05:31] <angch> use Ctrl+Alt+N
[05:31] <angch> volkan, oh wait, *same* file. wait.
[05:32] <volkan> angch, No, this is what I want
[05:32] <volkan> Thank you I didn't know gedit has this feature
[05:32] <angch> volkan, oh good. it can't do the same file, multiple view though.
[05:33] <bu5hm4n> morning, I have to setup a mailserver with a ldap backend, I tryed to set up a mailserver by my own, but thats just toooo much, does anybody know a good mailserver "bundle", which is not that hard to configure ? :)
[05:37] <volkan> angch, Do you know where to put gEdit themes?
[05:37] <angch> volkan, no idea, sorry.
[05:38] <PrivateMethod> good evening, folks
[05:40] <bluezone> wonder how hard it would be to develop a chess titan clone for ubuntu hehe
[05:41] <bluezone> would be a nice project i would be interested in
[05:49] <dubey> Hello
[05:50] <bluefrog> Fall, not sure I understand, you set up a passphrase but don't wan't to enter it when sshing. Remove the passphrase?
[05:50] <bluefrog> and secure your computer
[05:52] <dubey> i want to deal with latest openssl vuln. CVE-2014-0224.  As per suggestion i did apt-get update and upgrade on my system (ubuntu 10.01 LTS) and openssl version upgraded to 0.9.8k-7ubuntu8.18 from 0.9.8k-7ubuntu8.15. but my external tool says that it is still vulnerable. I am not sure what to do. as per other suggestion i should upgrade to .za but not sure how to do this ?
[05:52] <ezhik`_> Hello.
[05:53] <ezhik`_> Could you somebody answer a tick question related to static ip and dhcp.
[05:53] <dubey> can some one direct to right path
[05:53] <ezhik`_> when assigning a static ip, getting some packets dropped
[05:53] <ezhik`_> when getting an automatic ip, no packets dropped.
[05:55] <Streusel> So tac reverses the output of the content of a file, however how do I print up to say line 12, and that in reverse order of a file? tac -b12 <file> doesn't seem to do it for me.
[05:57] <Fall> bluefrog: I could do that I guess... I thought there was a method for it to persist between sessions
[05:57] <bluefrog> ah ok during a session, sry don't know
[05:58] <Fall> that's cool, thanks
[05:59] <Loshki> ezhik`_: odd. Which address gets assigned in each case?
[05:59] <Fall> Ah, a quick SO search answered my question: pasting for future reference:
[05:59] <Fall> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3466626/add-private-key-permanently-with-ssh-add-on-ubuntu
[06:00] <ezhik`_> Loshki: so I am using /16 network
[06:00] <bluefrog> Streusel, tac file | head -n 12
[06:00] <Streusel> thanks
[06:00] <ezhik`_> staticly defining 172.16.0.6
[06:01] <ezhik`_> dhcp assigns 172.16.32.123
[06:01] <ezhik`_> I have my dhcp setup on a different subnet.
[06:01] <Xano> I just reinstalled php5-cli after the 14.04 ugprade borked it, but I keep getting the following error output: http://pastebin.com/9rRggrQu
[06:01] <ezhik`_> so when I set it staticly, it complaints
[06:02] <ezhik`_> not complaints
[06:02] <ezhik`_> getting packet drops
[06:02] <Xano> This is after I uninstalled php5-cli and did apt-get clean and autoclean
[06:03] <bluefrog> Fall, but if I understand well the page, once you have added it, it will stay forever, even after a reboot?
[06:03] <ezhik`_> RX packets:9612202 errors:0 dropped:1422061703
[06:03] <Xano> For some reason php5-cli's php.ini belongs to Apache now. What would be the default owner and permission to reset it to to make this work?
[06:03] <ezhik`_> similar to this
[06:03] <ezhik`_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/890475
[06:04] <Fall> bluefrog: that's the idea
[06:04] <bluefrog> fall, well in that case what's the use to put a passphrase to begin with?
[06:05] <Fall> I guess none, the key won't be used for any external servers to our own network
[06:05] <Fall> but I didn't set it up, it was provided fo rme
[06:05] <Loshki> ezhik`_: sigh, sorry, at this stage you know more about this than I do. Keep asking...
[06:06] <bluefrog> fall, ok got the picture now
[06:06] <ezhik`_> it's a big problem.
[06:06] <ezhik`_> all over the web, but no resolution...
[06:06] <ezhik`_> oh well... going to bed.
[06:06] <ezhik`_> thanks anyways.
[06:06] <Loshki> ezhik`_: run a traceroute, see where the traffic is being dropped...
[06:07] <Loshki> ezhik`_: ok, try again tomorrow...
[06:07] <Kuroshita> Not exactly Ubuntu specific, but if I was to run a socks proxy through an ssh connect not on the default 22 port would the command be like so: ssh -p 8888 -D 1234 user@127.0.0.1 ?
[06:12] <Streusel> What am I doing wrong in vim that s/foo/bar/g is not changing all foo's to bar's
[06:14] <Stanley00> Streusel: I think you need change it to %s/foo/bar/g
[06:14] <Streusel> tried that, didn't seem to make a difference
[06:14] <Streusel> but I shall try it again
[06:18] <Speiros> Hi all.  I have a problem.  I used to be able to open multiple pages, but now it either freezes or closes many times when I open two or more.  Is there a way to fix this?
[06:19] <Speiros> Someone suggested it is my video driver maybe for ubuntu.
[06:21] <Speiros> And what was that *.net *.split thing where about 50 people "quit?
[06:22] <Ben64> Speiros: irc server problems, nothing to worry about
[06:22] <Speiros> 73 all at the same time?
[06:22] <Speiros> Ok, thanks Ben64.
[06:23] <Ben64> Speiros: everyone on a particular server that got disconnected from the rest of the servers
[06:23] <Speiros> Ben64 No probs.  Do you know any way I can prevent this opening pages issue?
[06:24] <Ben64> Speiros: i really have no idea what you mean by opening pages
[06:24] <Speiros> Ben64 What used to happen, I could open say 5 web pages, and edit, according to reading info off each of them.
[06:24] <Speiros> Ben64 Now I go to open a second page most times (not always) and the computer freezes, or drops the page altogether.
[06:27] <babinlonston> Hi Every one , Please go through my issue i have explained here http://paste.ubuntu.com/7662154/
[06:27] <babinlonston> Not Showing Dual boot menu after Grub install
[06:27] <mxvxrts> Speiros, Have you checked the memory/ram with a test, have you tried this in the guest account and a live environment?
[06:28] <Speiros> mxvxrts How do I do that mate?
[06:29] <mxvxrts> babinlonston, Windows is not in the extended is it?
[06:29] <mxvxrts> Speiros, The live has a memory test on the gui you see that has a try or install and memory test.
[06:30] <babinlonston> mxvxrts: While installing Ubuntu i left 26GB Unpartition space in that i have installed windows 7
[06:30] <Speiros> mxvxrts if it is to test if my ram is getting full, I have nearly a blank memory...nothing on it much at all, except ubuntu itself...almost I mean of course.
[06:31] <Speiros> mxvxrts so I go to "ubuntu live" ?
[06:31] <heyD> There's a high pitch sound when i connect my laptop to my hdmi tv. help?
[06:31] <mxvxrts> babinlonston, Is that windows in a logical ntfs in side the extended?
[06:31] <mxvxrts> Speiros, the memory/ram only gets full if you are booted.
[06:31] <babinlonston> mxvxrts: yes its
[06:32] <mxvxrts> babinlonston, Wont show or boot unless you have a windows boot partition in a primary.
[06:32] <Speiros> mxvxrts Ok, thanks.  So where do I go to test this?
[06:32] <robotdevil> whats wrong with vbox kernel module?
[06:32] <mxvxrts> mxvxrts> Speiros, The live has a memory test on the gui you see that has a try or install and memory test.
[06:32] <CMStorm> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing
[06:33] <Speiros> mxvxrts What is the live?
[06:33] <mxvxrts> babinlonston, You really want that windows at the beginning of the disc as well.
[06:33] <babinlonston> mxvxrts: then how can i fix it now is it possible or only a fresh re-installation will help
[06:33] <mxvxrts> Speiros, the live disc you use to install ubuntu with.
[06:34] <Guest77098> Is it possible to do a GUI encrypted installation of ()buntu using multiple disks and custom partition sizes with Trusty?  I did a LVM RAID 5 encrypted install with the 12.04 alternate install iso, but gathered that was no longer necessary to do it the Debian way anymore.
[06:34] <babinlonston> mxvxrts: oh , then will dd command help me to move the partitions ?
[06:34] <Speiros> mxvxrts Ok, thanks.  I'll test it and come back later.  Thanks for helping mxvxrts and Ben64:)
[06:34] <larrypg> babinlonston, if you do not have anything important I would install windows first and leave enough space for ubuntu and then install ubuntu
[06:35] <mxvxrts> babinlonston, Probably a clone would work, but you have to have room for it to be in a primary partition not a logical inside an extended, or at least the windows boot partition in a primary.
[06:35] <babinlonston> larrypg: already installed and a Developer working in it, so is it possible to fix the issue pls guide
[06:36] <babinlonston> mxvxrts: got it, then every windows installation must be in Primary right for dual boot
[06:37] <mxvxrts> babinlonston, basically yes, however if you have the windows boot partition in a primary the OS can be in an extended, I'm not sure I have seen anyone with that set up though, but it will work.
[06:38] <babinlonston> mxvxrts: ok ill try it in other machine first thank you
[06:38] <mxvxrts> windows commonly has two partitons one of which is a boot
[06:39] <prashant> hello
[06:39] <babinlonston> yea you right
[06:39] <prashant> is anyone there?
[06:40] <Ben64> prashant: about 1600 people
[06:40] <prashant> ok
[06:53] <arog> hi
[06:53] <arog> i just ran df -h and I noticed:: /dev/sda1       909G   15G  848G   2% /
[06:53] <arog> why is my size so large (909gb) but my available is only 848gb
[06:53] <arog> I find it difficult to believe ubuntu takes up almost 60gb
[06:54] <arog> this is without a GUI as well
[06:54] <arog> anyone around?
[06:54] <mxvxrts> arog, partition sizes are counted in two ways that is about right.
[06:55] <dunbuggy> hey
[06:55] <arog> mxvxrts: so from 900gb almost 50gb gets used up?!
[06:55] <arog> that's crazy!
[06:55] <mxvxrts> arog, THat is to full anyway
[06:55] <Ben64> arog: it probably is reserved space
[06:55] <arog> what do you mean
[06:55] <mxvxrts> arog, It is not crazy it is the way it is look it up.
[06:56] <arog> got a link?
[06:56] <arog> im not sure what to search for
[06:57] <mxvxrts> arog, The difference is 1000MB for a gig and 1024 for a gig if I have the numbers correct.
[06:57] <Ben64> arog: by default 5% of a filesystem is reserved for root, 5% of 909G is 45.45G, 45.45+15+848=908.45
[06:57] <Ben64> mxvxrts: thats not the issue here
[06:58] <mxvxrts> Ben64, May not be, however this is true.
[06:58] <Ben64> right, but irrelevant to the current topic
[06:58] <mxvxrts> Ben64, You have not confirmed that well enough to talk that way to me to be honest or at any time. ;)
[06:58] <arog> oh i see Ben64
[06:59] <fralle__> somebody knows what to do when autotools configure hangs on "checking for tputs in -lncurses"? (ubuntu 13.10)
[06:59] <arog> 5% for root wow wonder why it's using that much
[06:59] <Ben64> mxvxrts: to talk what way? you're giving information that isn't relevant to the issue
[06:59] <Ben64> arog: it isn't being used, it's just reserved for root. you can change the percentage if you wish
[06:59] <arog> I was going to guess 3gb (thats what google says ubuntu installation is) + maybe 1.5x RAM (I only have 4GB) so total is ~9gb
[07:00] <arog> Ben64: do you know why the reserve is set so high? Is there a performance hit if I lower it?
[07:01] <larrypg> arog, probably so that if you do hit the limit the system still has enough in reserve to fix things (get rid of things)
[07:03] <dunbuggy> hey yall im a bit confused
[07:03] <dunbuggy> ive been using a python program from the comman line, and when i call it from php, i cant get the results the same way
[07:03] <dunbuggy> i tried changing the locale charset but it didnt seem to work
[07:04] <dunbuggy> the encoding is effed up
[07:04] <dunbuggy> any troublshooting ideas would be rad
[07:05] <arog> okay ill leave it then, thank you
[07:06] <qknight_> i've got a standard ubuntu here and i wonder if i can move widgets from one 'workspace' to another using a hotkey...?
[07:07] <qknight_> http://help.ubuntu-it.org/12.04/desktop/shell-workspaces-movewindow.html <- oh found it!
[07:07] <qknight_> yay
[07:07] <mxvxrts> arog, Not knowing whether your full disc size was off the HD box or web and what ubuntu shows, sorry for any wrong help. ;)
[07:12] <Quintopia> would anyone here like to recommend a netbook/convertible which is easy and full-featured to run kubuntu on, and which is a quality device in its own right?
[07:13] <mxvxrts> Quintopia, A lot to choose from, check the minimal hardware needed and the price range you need, we don't really do that here. ;)
[07:18] <tomengland> how do i chane my keymap, I changed it in xkb in X11, but the changes did not happen
[07:18] <tomengland> does ubuntu house keypress and their corresponding code outside of /usr/share/X11/xkb/keycodes/evdev
[07:21] <Stanley00> tomengland: did you test xmodmap?
[07:23] <mohab> hello
[07:24] <tomengland> i haven't
[07:25] <tomengland> what does that do
[07:25] <mohab> Hello all of you
[07:25] <mohab> I want the program to the proxy system 12.04
[07:26] <mohab> Is a program to break the blocked sites
[07:27] <tomengland> keycode 115 = End NoSymbol End
[07:27] <tomengland> ok xmodmap is showing the previous change
[07:27] <tomengland> however /usr/share/X11/xkb/keycodes/evdev is showing the my change
[07:31] <Cuy> Hi, I have a problem with a user account (and probably its permissions) - anyone feel helpful?
[07:31] <leeyaa> hello. i have a fresh 14.04 LTS server install. for some reason restart networking or /etc/init.d/networking restart isnt working
[07:31] <leeyaa> what could be the reason ?
[07:32] <FreewheelinFrank> how can i install flash player for firefox?
[07:35] <FreewheelinFrank> how can i install flash player for firefox?
[07:37] <leeyaa> Stopping or restarting the networking job is not supported.
[07:37] <leeyaa> srsly -.-
[07:38] <mxvxrts> FreewheelinFrank, flashplugin-installer
which version
[07:39] <mxvxrts> FreewheelinFrank, I believe there is only one that is the name of it.
there is a YUM, RPM and tar.gz
[07:40] <mxvxrts> FreewheelinFrank, Linux does not have the latest flash, if that is the refrence
[07:40] <tomengland> there is no .deb?
[07:40] <helmut_> hi
[07:40] <mxvxrts> FreewheelinFrank, Not from adobe, but from the ubuntu repos
there are a few options downloading from the adobe site. It used to work but then I upgraded to ubuntu version 14
well I did install from that but it still does not work. am sure there were instructions to install manually and some settings to change
[07:42] <mxvxrts> FreewheelinFrank, We only support what comes from the ubuntu repos, there is nothing at adobe fir linux that is above what you get in the repos.
[07:43] <mxvxrts> adobe does not really support linux flash anymore, have not far awhile
By repos i assume you mean the ubuntu software centre. it says use lightspark as an alternative so I will ry that
[07:45] <mxvxrts> FreewheelinFrank, your choice but all you have to do is open a terminal and run sudp apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[07:45] <mxvxrts> sudo*
[07:45] <goldalex> Hello
[07:45] <mxvxrts> FreewheelinFrank, There is a peppermint flash from chrome that you can install.
well maybe i can start using chrome then
[07:47] <mxvxrts> FreewheelinFrank, here is their flash for other browsers, http://www.webupd8.org/2014/05/install-fresh-player-plugin-in-ubuntu.html
[07:47] <mxvxrts> FreewheelinFrank, Is a ppa technically not supported here is all.
[07:49] <sahim> #/linux
am downloading
works on chrome! thanks now i can watch the daily show and colbert ;)
[07:57] <goldalex> I have limited allowance for total data transfer over internet, can you tell me program name for ubuntu that can monitor my internet usage ?
[07:58] <knoppix> try conky
[07:58] <pdo_fn14> For long time Linux file system program don't support dynamic destination copying from trash.
[07:59] <stevenm> Hi, in 14.04 - where are all the other alert sounds / sound effects?   there is only 'Default'
[07:59] <makara> hi. is there a channel on project management / methdologies, like Agile?
[07:59] <pdo_fn14> However it's very frustrating when you found that your trash files has been restored in same old directionary.
[08:02] <pdo_fn14> I Using ext4 fs.
[08:12] <Nucleus1618> Hi
[08:14] <pdo_fn14> But I don't know how to face that this bug.
[08:22] <robotdevil> how in the hell does firefox get hijacked by baidu?
[08:23] <robotdevil> unreal
[08:23] <Jeroen_Mathon> Hello i am back
[08:30] <kaitanya> problem with locales http://paste.ubuntu.com/7662598/
[08:34] <Jeroen_Mathon> Hmm
[08:34] <Jeroen_Mathon> kaitanya when did this problem occour?
[08:35] <kaitanya> jeroen_mathon: today, my first logins
[08:37] <Jeroen_Mathon> kaitanya Did you change your locales?
[08:37] <kaitanya> jeroen_mathon: yeah, from en_GB to fi_FI, LC_ALL was set to C
[08:38] <Jeroen_Mathon> kaitanya Do you run a server or a desktop version of Ubuntu>
[08:39] <kaitanya> jeroen_mathon: server, and export LC_ALL=en_GB.UTF-8 works but LC_ALL=fi_FI.UTF-8 doesnt
[08:39] <Jeroen_Mathon> kaitanya Let me do some quick research
[08:40] <Jeroen_Mathon> kaitanya can you paste the output of locale -a in ubuntu pastebin
[08:40] <kaitanya> jeroen_mathon: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7662636/
[08:41] <kaitanya> darn
[08:42] <tapasweni_pathak> Trying for the first time.
[08:42] <Jeroen_Mathon> kaitanya and the output of locale
[08:44] <kaitanya> jeroen_mathon: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7662641/
[08:44] <Jeroen_Mathon> kaitanya did you try modifying this file?  /etc/default/locale
[08:44] <kaitanya> jeroen_mathon: wait
[08:45] <kaitanya> jeroen_mathon: i set it to fi_FI
[08:45] <Jeroen_Mathon> kaitanya Ok try now does it work?
[08:46] <Jeroen_Mathon> kaitanya If taht didn't work take a look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale
[08:47] <kaitanya> jeroen_mathon: now its en_GB and everything is working but cant just change LC_ALL to anything... going to the park with kids now so gonna check this later
[08:48] <Jeroen_Mathon> Nice to have helped ^_^ Good luck
[08:48] <kaitanya> jeroen_mathon: thanks. later :)
[08:52] <mregg> Hi - in a bash script, how can I create a folder, the name of which is to be based on a file's date?
[09:01] <Scratchy> Morning everybody !
[09:03] <jayesh> good afternoon
[09:03] <MayurYa> afternoon mi8y :D
[09:05] <Jeroen_Mathon> mregg You want to create a Bash script that makes a folder with the files date?
[09:06] <mregg> Jeroen_Mathon: I want to copy my files into different folders which I would name based on dates. Eg : a file created on 2014-01-23 goes to folder 2014-01, a file created on 2014-03-12 goes to 2014-03, etc.
[09:07] <Jeroen_Mathon> mregg Did you do some research before you started Writing the bash code?
[09:07] <mregg> Jeroen_Mathon: so far I'm trying to experiment with ls -l | awk '{print $5} but I'm not successful
[09:09] <Jeroen_Mathon> mregg What i thing is that you need these methods: catagorize array(File names) by date,Create folder for Catagories,Put corosponding subitems in their catagorized folders
[09:09] <Jeroen_Mathon> Those are the methods or functions your program would need.
[09:10] <Jeroen_Mathon> Youl need to store these variables Array(Catagories),Array(Filenames),string(Date)
[09:10] <Jeroen_Mathon> You could replace the string with an array. for convinience
[09:10] <lkthomas> guys, how could I execute a program to console when ubuntu first time boot up?
[09:11] <Jeroen_Mathon> lkthomas put them in /etc/init.d
[09:12] <lkthomas> Jeroen_Mathon: I also want to hold up all starting program
[09:12] <InFierno> put in a delay then...
[09:12] <InFlames> anyone having problems with 14.04? cuz man, i have never had such a rough time with ubuntu
[09:13] <dwatkins> what problems in particular are you seeing, InFlames?
[09:13] <Jeroen_Mathon> InFlames I only had trouble with the ubuntu 13
[09:13] <robbr> so i just install ubuntu-desktop metapackage with the --without-recommends flag... and now unity is pretty much broken. wtf?
[09:13] <mregg> Jeroen_Mathon: if I do a : "for file in *;  do", how do I get $file's timestamp?
[09:13] <robbr> for example, no installed applications show up under "applications"
[09:13] <robbr> installed*
[09:14] <stevenm> Hey if I haven't chosen automatic login on install - how do I turn that on later?
[09:14] <dwatkins> mregg: have a look at the "find" command, you can do stuff based on the timestamp with it
[09:14] <jblake> hi
[09:14] <ahigginbottom> wazzzupp niggy
[09:14] <jblake> oh ma gawd
[09:14] <InFlames> dwatkins, i was running the upgrades after it completely the distribution upgrade and now when i try to upgrade it says something is wrong, then says it can only do a partial upgrade, then i try the partial and it logs me out and kills my whole session
[09:15] <stevenm> nvm found it
[09:15] <cshaw> lol
[09:15] <Jeroen_Mathon> Try cntrl+alt+F1 Login as root and then try
[09:15] <mregg> dwatkins: find will tell me files that are older than x number of days, what I'm looking for is for each file, what is their timestamp
[09:15] <ahigginbottom> lolololololololloollololololl
[09:15] <InFlames> dwatkins, so then i was trying to make a startup disk and i notice now my dash has no application results
[09:15] <gsimpson> itties
[09:15] <bcvery> !ot | ahigginbottom, please keep this chat clear for support
[09:15] <jblake> hold print screen
[09:15] <cshaw> no pls
[09:16] <gsimpson> Tig ol biddies
[09:16] <cshaw> i can clap with out using my handfs
[09:16] <dwatkins> InFlames: I suggest doing an "apt-get upgrade" from the text console to see if it produces errors as implied by Jeroen_Mathon
[09:16] <stevenm> or not... in "User Account" the Unlock button is greyed out - why!?
[09:16] <InFlames> ah, both sound ideas, thanks
[09:17] <gsimpson> who are you?
[09:17] <Jeroen_Mathon> stevenm Did you chown the .Xauthority in your home directory
[09:17] <stevenm> umm no ...
[09:17] <gsimpson> bello
[09:17] <stevenm> fresh ubuntu 14.04 install
[09:18] <gsimpson> stop spaming
[09:18] <gsimpson> hi jimmy
[09:18] <ahigginbottom> hey jim
[09:19] <cshaw> l
[09:19] <jblake> nyess
[09:19] <cshaw> jkjkjkjkjkjkjkjkjjkjkjkjkjkjkjkjkjk
[09:19] <DJones> gsimpson: jblake ahigginbottom cshaw This is an Ubuntu support channel, its not for general chat
[09:19] <gsimpson> 8-------D
[09:20] <cshaw> -_-Q_________|._________q-_-
[09:20] <Jeroen_Mathon> gsimpson Please lease if you don't need help or are support people
[09:20] <mikodo> When mtab opens partitions in an external Hard-drive, is it normal for the permissions for the partitions to be owned by root?
[09:20] <Jeroen_Mathon> Youl need to run partitioning software as root
[09:21] <Jeroen_Mathon> So yes it is normal mikodo :)
[09:21] <Jeroen_Mathon> At least i hope
[09:21] <dwatkins> mikodo: what format is the partition?
[09:21] <robbr> clear
[09:21] <mikodo> dwa
[09:22] <dwatkins> mikodo: I mean is it FAT32, ext3 etc.?
[09:22] <mikodo> dwatkins, EXT 4
[09:22] <dwatkins> mikodo: in that case, the mounted partition should have ownership as defined within the partition; you may have to re-chown directories if it's taken from a different system, as the user IDs might not match
[09:23] <dwatkins> but if the files were owned by root originally, that should still be the case now
[09:24] <mikodo> dwatkins, So, will it be ok to change them to be owned by my user, to not have to use root to use Back in Time?
[09:25] <Jeroen_Mathon> Backintime uses rsync
[09:25] <Jeroen_Mathon> It coppies permissions
[09:25] <dwatkins> I'd suggest running any backup script as root anyway.
[09:25] <Bobmarley__> Can someone help fully remove apache2? When I try to it says this error
[09:25] <Bobmarley__> http://pastie.org/9301394
[09:26] <mikodo> dwatkins,  and et al, Thanks!
[09:27] <Bobmarley__> Can someone help fully remove apache2? When I try to it says this error http://pastie.org/9301394
[09:28] <Jeroen_Mathon> Bobmarley sure
[09:28] <Jeroen_Mathon> Give me a moment
[09:29] <Jeroen_Mathon> Bobmarley whats the output of which apache2
[09:29] <Jeroen_Mathon> the command (which apache2)
[09:30] <Bobmarley__> erm
[09:30] <Jeroen_Mathon> Brb goign to get some tea
[09:30] <Bobmarley__> Ok
[09:33] <Jeroen_Mathon> back and Bobmarley wahts the ouput of the which apache2 command
[09:33] <Jeroen_Mathon> Output*
[09:34] <Bobmarley__> What do you mean, like sudo apt-get instll apache2?
[09:34] <Bobmarley__> install*
[09:34] <Jeroen_Mathon> Bobmarley take a look at this http://askubuntu.com/a/176966
[09:35] <Bobmarley__> Ok
[09:35] <Jeroen_Mathon> Tea break i hope this helped Bobmarley
[09:39] <Bobmarley__> http://pastie.org/9301434
[09:45] <Bobmarley__> Jeroen_Mathon: http://pastie.org/9301434
[09:46] <Jeroen_Mathon> I see
[09:46] <Jeroen_Mathon> And this one Bobmarley http://askubuntu.com/a/387793
[09:47] <Jeroen_Mathon> But first Bobmarley run this E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[09:47] <Jeroen_Mathon> the apt-get update with -f
[09:47] <Jeroen_Mathon> or with --fix-missing
[09:48] <Bobmarley__> ok
[09:51] <JOTAUVE> hellou!
[09:51] <Bobmarley__> Hi
[09:52] <JOTAUVE> I've one server in my office with ubuntu, if I connect it to the switch, the ping and speed of my connection decreases a lot. How can I discover what is causing that?? I don't have downloads in the server obviously
[09:54] <Bobmarley__> Is it alright to delete files in /etc/ to delete some packages instead of doing apt-get remove/
[09:56] <Bobmarley__> Jeroen_Mathon It still has apache2.2-common left
[09:57] <Jeroen_Mathon> Then try to do apt-get remove apache2.2-common -f
[10:01] <robotdevil> how aggressive is ubuntu logs? maybe I should make a separate partition for /var instead of on my ssd
[10:02] <robotdevil> firefox cache already does a number on it
[10:04] <makara> JOTAUVE: network troubleshooting is not easy to do over IRC
[10:04] <Jeroen_Mathon> surfsue otherwhise use Bleachbit to clean the,
[10:04] <Jeroen_Mathon> them*
[10:05] <n1n0> what is the better way to repair ubuntu 13.10, via the live CD or with boot repair disk?
[10:05] <cfhowlett> n1n0 depends what you're "repairing"
[10:06] <n1n0> cfhowlett typed a lot yesterday, it is an uncommon problem I guess
[10:06] <n1n0> cannot log onto my account, even though the password is correct (via tty)
[10:07] <MayurYa> ^ check keyboard layout.. if password contains special chars.. that might* be the reason.
[10:07] <n1n0> it's not that
[10:07] <n1n0> or also read that it can be reinstalled in a way that all the apps, docs and bookmarks to remain
[10:08] <n1n0> can it?
[10:09] <MayurYa> how about resetting root or user's password, tried?
[10:10] <cfhowlett> n1n0 can you get into guest account
[10:11] <n1n0> not even that
[10:12] <n1n0> could, and after changing the account password from within the recovery mode, couldn't
[10:13] <cfhowlett> n1n0 complete reinstall.
[10:13] <xubuntu438> What is the point of downloading the isos via p2p (besides hashing), if one can download from the http mirrors at full speed?
[10:14] <cfhowlett> xubuntu438 actually the recommended method is to torrent
[10:14] <n1n0> cfhowlett can I somehow fetch the bookmarks prior to that?
[10:14] <xubuntu438> cfhowlett, my question is: why? no method is going to be faster than direct download
[10:15] <cfhowlett> n13z firefox?  back it up.  or export/save/email the bookmars
[10:15] <cfhowlett> *boookmarks*
[10:15] <cfhowlett> xubuntu438 false.  I've seen torrent fly faster than DL many times.
[10:15] <n1n0> cfhowlett didn't back it up and now cannot access into the sys. can i somehow do it from tty?
[10:15] <n1n0> and what should the command line be
[10:16] <cfhowlett> n1n0 log in to single user mode via command line
[10:16] <Jeroen_Mathon> xubuntu438 Incorrect Torrenting is faster if there are more seeders
[10:21] <Bobmarley__> Jeroen_Mathon: http://pastie.org/9301561
[10:22] <ringarin> how can i set static ip without rebooting in 14.04 ?
[10:22] <sveta> by setting it in network manager, disconnecting from network, and reconnecting
[10:23] <ringarin> sveta, i updated my /etc/network/interfaces then tried : service networking restart
[10:23] <sveta> yes?
[10:23] <MayurYa> ..and same steps sveta suggested can be done via CLI (in case one is working on server)
[10:25] <ringarin> i get : Job failed while stopping  and "ip a" still returns the same ip
[10:26] <MayurYa> are you a privilege-user/root (does user have sufficient permission to perform such actions)?
[10:27] <ObrienDave> disconnect first?
[10:28] <ringarin> im root, service networking stop : returns  Job failed while stopping  ; only reboot actualy changes the ip
[10:37] <rahul__> Hii all
[10:38] <rahul__> I am on ubuntu 12.04 lts i am connected to internet via router i wan to access my home pc which is connected to dsl connection how can i
[10:38] <rahul__> i tried ssh it with here.. i can't do and no ping is coming
[10:38] <MayurYa> you may need to configure port-forwarding, if not.
[10:39] <rahul__> MayurYa, how to do that
[10:39] <rahul__> ?
[10:39] <ringarin> MayurYa, thanks i successfully changed the ip using : sudo ifdown --exclude=lo -a && sudo ifup --exclude=lo -a
[10:39] <Mathisen> type in 192.168.1.1 in browser
[10:40] <Mathisen> usaly works to get acces to your router
[10:40] <cfhowlett> !who
[10:40] <MayurYa> yey! u nailed it :) so, that bug still exists.. use that workaround ;)
[10:41] <MayurYa> @rahul__ try what Mathisen suggested and do some web search for configuring port-forwarding in your router/modem.
[10:41] <b> hi
[10:41] <rahul__> ok MayurYa
[10:41] <sveta> hello b
[10:41] <b> i'm drunk lol
[10:42] <cfhowlett> b ask your ubuntu questions
[10:42] <Mathisen> rahul__ if you want to make it simple for you, just find " DMZ host " under nat configuration on the router and type in the ip to your home pc there... This will open ALL ports to that ip... so better to just forward specific ports
[10:45] <MayurYa> @rahul__ DMZ would open your computer to rest of the world, so be wise while using it :wink
[10:47] <s> my balls itch
[10:47] <s> scratch them for me
[10:48] <cfhowlett> !ops|s idiocy
[10:48] <p3rror> hello
[10:49] <cfhowlett> p3rror greetings.  ask ubuntu questions
[10:49] <p3rror> How can I denied access to mysql cli command for a user
[10:49] <p3rror> I think that there are not many solutions
[10:49] <p3rror> we can chroot that user
[10:50] <skrrp> don't give them the passwords for the database root user or any databases?
[10:51] <p3rror> Or use selinux or maybe apparmor
[10:52] <p3rror> skrrp I say it to my boss
[10:52] <p3rror> he does not accept
[10:52] <p3rror> he need only to denied mysql cli for user aptus
[10:52] <p3rror> so I thought to chroot aptus
[10:52] <p3rror> using selinux is very complicated
[10:53] <skrrp> can you not chmod u-x the executable and then add people you want to run it to a group?
[10:53] <skrrp> sorry
[10:53] <skrrp> a-x
[10:56] <p3rror> skrrp please explain
[10:58] <skrrp> chmod is the command to change file permissions. permissions are read, write, execute (rwx) for user, group, all (uga). if you chmod a-x (all minus execute) then only the owner of the file and groups (ug) will be able to run the file
[10:58] <p3rror> but in general
[10:58] <p3rror> the owner of `which mysql`
[10:59] <p3rror> is root ?
[10:59] <p3rror> msyql ?
[10:59] <p3rror> what the deal wth group
[10:59] <skrrp> i don't know. if you ls -l the file it will tell you user and group owners
[10:59] <skrrp> groups are the middle stage of file permissions. it allows users to be added to a custom group to access shared files
[11:09] <stone_> hello
[11:14] <rahul__> citrix,
[11:15] <benprestwood> hello
[11:15] <benprestwood> my i ask a question
[11:16] <cfhowlett> !ask|benprestwood
[11:17] <benprestwood> i am installing stuff on my linux server (no gui) and i used "cd ~" and now it has an > before each command and the commands dont do anything but just go to a new line ?
[11:17] <benprestwood> how do i get them to run
[11:17] <cfhowlett> benprestwood exit the terminal and try again
[11:18] <benprestwood> its on digitalocean and will i have to write the 10 commands i did again ?
[11:19] <cfhowlett> benprestwood digitalocean?  I'd guess yes.
[11:20] <benprestwood> digitalocean is a server host and ill try restart the terminal
[11:20] <benprestwood> i mihgt have to restart the server
[11:20] <benprestwood> *might
[11:22] <tongjingcheng> how to set auto change voice device  when i connect blue tooth?
[11:24] <skrrp> apologies in advance for the wall-o'text. i've got an insidious problem on my hands - my sales team and i (techie) are all running 14.04 with KDE, Thunderbird and Firefox. main application is SugarCRM (web-based). i don't have this problem but my sales team do - every now and again their keyboard stops working. they can't type into emails or Firefox. the only difference is that sales are...
[11:24] <skrrp> ...running the Opacus plugin for Thunderbird and also have JavaScript alert(); s popping up from Sugar for call reminders. a workaround is for them is to click the K menu and type something into the search box, then the keyboard starts to work  again for Thunderbird and Firefox. anyone have any ideas as to a cause or a cure?
[11:24] <benprestwood> its working now thanks for your help cfhowlett
[11:24] <cfhowlett> benprestwood happy2help
[11:25] <tongjingcheng> How to set automatic switching sound when I plug in the Bluetooth device, adjust the volume control is integrated sound card
[11:46] <ronin> how do I "pipe" a program output to sendmail
[11:47] <sydney> Ok,im thinking of installing Ubuntu gnome 14.04 along side of my 12.04 install.Is there anything i need to do before the install?
[11:52] <sydney> Anyone?Or do i just install?
[11:53] <sydney> Or should i wait for 14.04.1?
[11:53] <histo> ronin: I don't believe sendmail accepts input from the command itself. You'd probably have to output to a file then use the file as input when constructing your message.
[11:54] <Grant_P> Hi all, Have a Meridian Explorer DAC. I no longer have any sound. Any known issues with recent updates?
[11:55] <Deepfriedice> sydney: I'd just go for it. There isn't much point waiting for .1 if you're just going to upgrade to it anyway.
[11:55] <Deepfriedice> Personally, I'd do the partitioning first though.
[11:55] <histo> ronin: I stand corrected. you could mail -s "subject" email address < output of other command
[11:58] <ronin> histo, I also have mail
[11:58] <ben_g> Hi
[11:58] <ronin> histo, just trying to put a command to cron and then email the output :)
[11:59] <ben_g> Does anyone here know how to fix random GPU freezes? (nvidia geforce 710M with the official nvidia drivers)
[11:59] <histo> ronin: cron will email the output unless you have it set not to.
[11:59] <ronin> hmm wehre is this configured
[11:59] <histo> ronin: it's part of crontab it will email any output and errors
[12:00] <ben_g> Or if those GPU freezes can't be fixed, is there a way to make it recover automatically when the GPU is unresponsive?
[12:00] <histo> ronin: set the MAILTO=youremail@test.com  in your crontab
[12:01] <ben_g> (currently, to recover, I have to press CTRL+AL+F1-F6, then CTRL+ALT+F7, and then everything works again)
[12:02] <histo> ben_g: try not using the nvidia drivers
[12:03] <ben_g> histo: it was the only way that made my computer use the nvidia graphics card, while not messing up everything
[12:03] <histo> ben_g: what was messed up with the open source drivers?
[12:04] <ben_g> the open-source drivers only work for my on-board GPU (which is a lot slower than my nvidia card)
[12:04] <ben_g> And I tried bumblebee once too, but with it, i had no graphics at all
[12:06] <histo> ben_g: ahh you have a dual video card setup... Perhaps try a different version of the driver from nvidia then.
[12:06] <ben_g> I tried the latest linux one, what version should I use then?
[12:07] <sj99> Hey. I'm running 14.05, and I have a monitor with a 2560x1440 resolution, however that resolution isn't available in system settings (the max is 1920x1080). Any help would be much appreciated.
[12:07] <max87> hi, am able to login to ubuntu but it shows 4 options including to run with low graphics mode
[12:07] <xvzf> hi there where can I download an iso image to install trusty tahr onto a macbook?
[12:07] <max87> but when i choose low graphics mode, it shows only commandline
[12:07] <ben_g> I use driver version 331.38-Linux-x86-64bit
[12:08] <robotdevil> how the heck is the nouveau driver configured? is there not an .rc file or something?
[12:08] <max87> i experimented, and changed to init 1. Then after , I were able to run to init 5 and graphics shown up correctly.
[12:08] <max87> but when the system is rebooted again the error shows up.
[12:08] <max87> how can i verify if this is related to graphics driver.
[12:08] <pavlos> sj99, the resolution depends on your video card, not the monitor
[12:10] <ben_g> Is there a way to just update the graphics drivers, instead of going trough the installation procedure again?
[12:10] <histo> ben_g: I don't know perhaps you'd have to ask nvidia for support with 'their' driver.
[12:10] <sj99> pavlos: samsung advertises it as 2560x1440 pixel resolution
[12:11] <histo> robotdevil: What do you mean by configured?
[12:11] <ben_g> Is there a way to write a script to reset it automatically when it's frozen? Maybe that's easier.
[12:11] <histo> ben_g: not quite sure how you'd detect that it's frozen.
[12:11] <pavlos> sj99, are you running 14.04? what video card do you have? again, the resolution depends on the video card, not the monitor.
[12:11] <histo> ben_g: What desktop environment are you running?
[12:12] <ben_g> Ubuntu 14.04
[12:12] <ben_g> LTS
[12:13] <histo> ben_g: it's possible something with X or unity is locking up. You could try a different DE for awhile like xfce, kde, lxde, etc.... and test
[12:13] <ben_g> Well, I do know that everything I do while it's frozen still has effect, the screen just doesn't show it
[12:14] <ben_g> Doesn't that mean it's only the GPU that causes problems?
[12:14] <robotdevil> ben_g: how does it know what options to run with if there is no xorg
[12:15] <ben_g> robotdevil: How do you mean? (sorry, I'm quite bad with linux)
[12:15] <robotdevil> nm
[12:15] <Grant_P> Hi, I've noticed that my machine is not running the latest kernel installed (even after reboot). Any reason why?
[12:16] <sj99> pavlos: yep - 14.04. I have intel hd 4000 integrated graphics
[12:17] <Ben64> Grant_P: well what is installed, what is running, and what did you choose during grub?
[12:17] <ben_g> How can I set up a different DE (whatever that is) to see if it's causing the problem?
[12:17] <notas_> fake
[12:20] <ben_g> It seems that windows autorecovers from the GPU freezes I described by using TDR (Timeout Detection and Recovery).
[12:20] <ben_g> Is there a linux-alternative for this?
[12:21] <pavlos> sj99, so you need to go to the Intel site and d/l the driver ... https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads
[12:24] <sj99> pavlos: thanks, i've installed it and will reboot now
[12:24] <voidwalkr> is ubuntu better than xubuntu?
[12:25] <augur_> no its the same but with another DE
[12:26] <augur_> 00 bollullera
[12:34] <zergut> how to execute file or script in ubuntu?
[12:35] <Ben64> zergut: ./file_or_script
[12:35] <zergut> what about gui execution?
[12:36] <Ben64> zergut: ALT+F2 ?
[12:36] <zergut> no, no i meant like from Nautilus
[12:38] <Ben64> zergut: then double click it?
[12:39] <davidds_> I wonder if this is working
[12:39] <davidds_> Flamereaper, do you see my message?
[12:40] <Ben64> davidds_: your messages are coming though
[12:40] <davidds_> oh thanks, I like!
[12:40] <jack> through
[12:40] <davidds_> this is the first of many attempts that seems to succesful
[12:40] <davidds_> thanks jack
[12:41] <zergut> Ben64: it opens as a text file
[12:41] <jack> was addressed to Ben64 and his typo
[12:41] <Ben64> well if you just want to chat, please do so in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:41] <Ben64> zergut: then you didn't make the file properly or something
[12:41] <davidds_> I have some questions as well, but I'll ask them in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:42] <zergut> Ben64: It executes properly from command prompt
[12:43] <alpy_> #diagrams
[12:43] <Ben64> zergut: well i don't know what to tell you, a properly made script gives an option to run when double clicked in nautilus
[12:44] <zergut> Ben64: okay, i got it how to make it properly?
[12:44] <Ben64> zergut: pastebin what you have?
[12:45] <Ben64> zergut: you may be missing the #!/bin/bash for a bash script, or executable bit set or something
[12:46] <zergut> Ben64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7663545/
[12:48] <Ben64> zergut: ok, and now check for the executable bit
[12:48] <zergut> how to?
[12:49] <Ben64> right click, properties, permissions; or... ls -l
[12:50] <zergut> already did
[12:50] <zergut> it's marked to allow execution
[12:51] <Ben64> ok try "ls -l" instead
[12:52] <zergut> -rwx--x--x
[12:53] <Guest7100> How do you improve security on Ubuntu 14.04
[12:59] <zergut> Ben64: is it looks like executable, right?
[13:12] <Stevie24> Hello
[13:12] <Stevie24> Can anyone tell me how can I extract & delete from file1, the lines containing specific strings, and move them to a new file named file2 ? the string is dynamic; example : I'm interested to extract all lines containing DOG, 192168, IL. All 3 are separate patterns. Thanks in advance.
[13:13] <skrrp> Guest7100: install BSD. joking aside there are many small and big things you can do to secure your system. start with sshd_config. move the ssh port to a high number in the user range, disable root login. use nmap to scan your system for open ports (services). disable any you don't need. kill inetd if it's running. kill any insecure ftp programs. you might consider a firewall (shorewall) or...
[13:13] <skrrp> ...selinux. you could opt for just not having ports open rather than firewalls. read up on port knocking if you are truly paranoid
[13:17] <KarameL-> salut les blaireaux :)
[13:17] <pavlos> !fr| KarameL-
[13:18] <KarameL-> ok thanks :)
[13:18] <KarameL-> its nice to have french room :)
[13:20] <jack> qc? ubuntu-quebec?
[13:20] <jack> wow
[13:20] <NGC982> ubuntu-quake.
[13:22] <histo> Stevie24: with sed
[13:22] <krypto> how can we know the package which provides top command ,is there any similar command for yum provides?
[13:22] <histo> Stevie24: well grep  and sed
[13:23] <cfhowlett> !info top
[13:23] <histo> !apt-file | krypto
[13:27] <histo> Stevie24: you still around?
[13:32] <leeyaa> hello
[13:32] <leeyaa> does anyone know why after i installed xen on 14.04 LTS i have no xenconsole ?
[13:32] <leeyaa> what could be the reason
[13:33] <cfhowlett> !info xenconsole
[13:33] <cfhowlett> !info xen
[13:36] <Stevie24> histo, sorry. I was on the phone.
[13:37] <Stevie24> That means I will need a script, is that correct?
[13:37] <Stevie24> Just a sed command woudn't do it?
[13:37] <histo> Stevie24: you could one liner it with a ;
[13:38] <Stevie24> ah, ok
[13:38] <histo> Stevie24: grep searchterm somefile > newfile ; sed -ie 's/searchterm//g' somefile
[13:39] <Stevie24> But isn't that impossible, since I have 24 separate strings ?
[13:39] <Stevie24> That would mean 24 x grep + 24 x sed. Am I wrong?
[13:42] <SpecialEd> Hello, I am looking for a real time cpu/ram/bandwidth monitor for 6 remote servers that will display on a single web page. Currently I have SSH sessions into my servers with htop and bwm-ng running. Does anyone know a good way to do this via the web? I have tried munin and nagios and I don't believe they really show real time (their real time is 1 min refresh)
[13:43] <histo> Stevie24: you can do multiple patterns
[13:43] <holstein> nagios is an industry standard
[13:43] <SpecialEd> holstein: I agree, but is there a way to make it work so it shows like 1 second refresh ?
[13:43] <SpecialEd> for 6 servers?
[13:43] <SpecialEd> If so then Ill head over to #nagios
[13:44] <holstein> Stevie24: im just saying, if nagios didnt do what i wanted, id rethink what i want.. probably not necessary to have a 1 second refresh
[13:45] <SpecialEd> holstein: servers run development operations and i'd like to be able to spot spikes
[13:45] <SpecialEd> holstein: therefore 1 minute refresh won't likely show spikes...
[13:46] <histo>  Stevie24 both grep and sed can use the -e for_pattern  so grep -i -e pattern1 -e pattern2 > somefile  sed -i -e 's/pattern1//g' -e 's/pattern2//g'
[13:46] <Stevie24> Great histo, thank you so much !!
[13:47] <n1n0> hi. couldn't log into my user account on 13.10. changed it in the recovery mode, didn't help(couldn't even login as guest). reinstlled from live stick with the "automatic login" settings, and apps and docs are supposedly saved. couldn't login again (left the same username). changed the password again from within the recovery mode (the command line said it was successfully changed), yet...
[13:47] <n1n0> ...nothing again. can login as guest thoug
[13:47] <histo> Stevie24: np just becarefull and backup the original data first
[13:47] <n1n0> h
[13:47] <Stevie24> yes, I will histo, thanks:)
[13:47] <cfhowlett> n1n0 did you reinstall???
[13:47] <n1n0> yes
[13:47] <histo> n1n0: what happens when you try to login as your user?
[13:47] <n1n0> the instalation that says to leave the old data on
[13:47] <cfhowlett> n1n0 boot into single user mode ...
[13:48] <holstein> !info cacti
[13:48] <SpecialEd> holstein: I'll just try #nagios i guess
[13:48] <n1n0> cfhowlet how
[13:48] <n1n0> with or without live cd
[13:48] <n1n0> ?
[13:48] <cfhowlett> !singleuser
[13:49] <cfhowlett> n1n0 http://askubuntu.com/questions/132965/how-do-i-boot-into-single-user-mode-from-grub
[13:50] <holstein> n1n0: looks like, the desktop session could have been crashing , and making you think the password was bad.. could you login via tty?
[13:50] <n1n0> holstein yes
[13:50] <holstein> n1n0: then, its not a password problem
[13:50] <n1n0> holstein than what to do?
[13:51] <n1n0> will retry the tty now when reinstalled
[13:51] <holstein> n1n0: what i would do is, remove the offending config from the users /home.. you can literally move *all* the .hidden .config files out of the way
[13:51] <n1n0> holstein would if i knew how
[13:51] <holstein> n1n0: new fresh default config files will be generated, then you can test login, and put back what you want/need
[13:52] <holstein> n1n0: if you knew what, friend? what to move? im saying, literally *anything* in the users /home that is a .config.. hidden with a dot
[13:53] <holstein> n1n0: you can elaborate as to what destkop you are using, and i could give more direct suggestions for specific hidden directories
[13:54] <holstein> n1n0: you can make a new user to move/delete these.. you can use a live CD.. regardless, you should backup your important data.. then, you know that you can do a fresh install and *not* keep the user data in place with the errors, and be ok.. you konw that its not a password problem
[13:55] <marscher> is there a way to let rsync only show those files, which will be transfered in a dry run?
[13:56] <jogger> helo
[13:56] <marscher> have checked the manual, but didnt find something
[13:56] <histo> marscher: -n
[13:56] <marscher> histo, -n is dry-run yes. But it shows all files from source (which is super large)
[13:57] <marscher> I want only those files to be printed, which will be transfered (after application of exclude patterns)
[13:57] <n1n0> holstein thanx for the long info. some kind of link on how to do it would be very much appreciated
[13:57] <holstein> n1n0: with *any* filemanager, friend
[13:57] <histo> marscher: why do you want to do that?
[13:58] <marscher> histo, I have a backup, and want only to partially restore it. So I need a "diff" of files first
[13:58] <holstein> n1n0: what desktop environment are you using? with more informaiton, i can help you pinpoint what might be more specifically causing the issues.. otherwise, literally anything with a dot in front of it in your users home.. which you can access from any filemanager
[13:58] <marscher> a diff of the file list ideally
[13:58] <histo> marscher: diff /directory1 /directory2
[13:59] <marscher> histo, does this work recursively and for binary files?!
[13:59] <n1n0> holstein what is the command line in tty to tell you the desktop environment
[13:59] <n1n0> ?
[13:59] <holstein> n1n0: what do you have installed, friend? main ubuntu? xubuntu? lubuntu? kubuntu?
[13:59] <marscher> histo, a line by line comparision for 200k files would be total overkill, despite I only need to find out, which files has been deleted
[14:00] <prepangolin> Hello guys.
[14:01] <n1n0> ubuntu 13.10 holstein
[14:01] <n1n0> 32 bit
[14:02] <holstein> n1n0: maybe you would find it easier to just fresh install 14.04 at this point.. you should back up your personal data regardless, since all hard drives fail.. then you would be up to date
[14:02] <histo> marscher: I'm thinking about it. But i'm extremely tired, give me a few
[14:02] <n1n0> holstein i usually do it, yet, didn't bookmarks, and it is the only thing i need from there
[14:02] <holstein> n1n0: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html is what i suggest using to reset the unity configs in 13.10
[14:03] <holstein> n1n0: *all* drives fail.. so, work out backing up what you need, regardless
[14:03] <holstein> n1n0: you can try the commands at the link above to help reset unity configs in your users /home
[14:04] <marscher> histo, np, take your time ;)
[14:04] <n1n0> holstein thank you a lot for the help
[14:04] <holstein> !13.10
[14:04] <histo> marscher: try diff -qr /dir1 /dir2
[14:05] <holstein> n1n0: you can see that support for 13.10 is soon to end.. 14.04 is a long term support release,which you can use with support for 5 years..
[14:06] <n1n0> but holstein, how to reset it from terminal, when cannot even access the terminal (except from the guest acc). you mean from the tty? (for the link you sent)?
[14:06] <n1n0> 13.10 was around for very short, right?
[14:06] <holstein> n1n0: the link i gave has only terminal commands listed, friend.. have you opened it? and referenced it?
[14:06] <histo> marscher: using that if a only in results in a directory then it won't recurse further because there is no point. e.g. only in /dir1: somedir   then it won't go into somedir
[14:06] <holstein> n1n0: 13.10 *is* still supported, but you can reference the link i gave and see that the EOL is in july.. just next month
[14:07] <n1n0> holstein cannot access the terminal except from the guest
[14:07] <holstein> n1n0: you can login to your user account from tty
[14:07] <holstein> n1n0: there are recovery modes in the kernel as well..
[14:07] <holstein> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[14:08] <delac> any way to hide applications from Dash? Using Alacarte doesn't seem to have effect.
[14:08] <n1n0> did in tty, now it says n1n0(myusername which i cannot access)@lap (computer name
[14:08] <histo> marscher: also try with rsync -rnu dir1 dir2  should only show files that will be overwritten
[14:08] <n1n0> so that means the password is ok?
[14:08] <histo> marscher: -u is the key
[14:08] <holstein> n1n0: sure.. so run the commands *as* that user
[14:08] <n1n0> ok
[14:09] <holstein> n1n0: though, i personally think your time will be well spent backing up your data with a live CD, and doing a fresh install of 14.04 where you *dont* keep the offending user data in place during install
[14:10] <marscher> histo, thanks for all this information, but I currently noticed, that I cant perform any of them in my current environment, since I've mounted an btrfs image, which shares the same uuid like an already mounted volume....
[14:10] <marscher> and it seems, there is no way around this.
[14:11] <marscher> so I guess I first have to transfer all files from the backup image to another filesystem (which is superstupid... :()
[14:12] <histo> marscher: can't you mount by label?
[14:12] <marscher> histo, my research so far results, that the uuid is stored inherently in the filesystem(image)
[14:13] <marscher> and is not changeable
[14:13] <histo> marscher: how do you have matching uuid's what are you trying to do?
[14:13] <marscher> so how would a label change that?
[14:13] <marscher> trying to mount an image of my currently running system on a loopback device
[14:14] <histo> marscher: ahh
[14:14] <marscher> but because those uuids are the same (image and source), the mounted image shows exactly the same contents like current
[14:14] <marscher> funy :D
[14:14] <marscher> histo, https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/104067/modifying-a-btrfs-filesystem-uuid
[14:15] <CREEEPEREXPLOSIV> hello
[14:18] <histo> marscher: you can set the uuid with tune2fs
[14:19] <marscher> tune2fs for btrfs???
[14:19] <histo> marscher: nope just caught that you were using btrfs
[14:20] <k0nceast> marscher: tune2fs does not work on brtfs afaik
[14:20] <CREEEPEREXPLOSIV> hi
[14:21] <marscher> k0nceast, yes that is what one would expect
[14:23] <k0nceast> marscher: i think everything should go through the btrfs or btrfsctl commands
[14:25]  * histo thinks no one should be using btrfs
[14:26] <k0nceast> the 'man btrfs' page might give you a better explanation (probability of man vs me being correct is far higher than 'might') and otherwise look into the btrfs-utils package
[14:26] <Guest19759> Hey, I have an Ubuntu live USB booted. I've installed some things and am wondering if I can make a persistant overlay with what I currently have? I googled around, but all I can find is stuff on creating the overlay, not saving current stuff to it. I know there must be some way, but I'm kinda stuck.
[14:27] <marscher> k0nceast, histo, there is no way documentated to perform this. So I will dump my files on another filesystem. Thank you both for your help/time!
[14:27] <histo> marscher: np
[14:28] <yyx> ?
[14:28] <k0nceast> Guest19759: not while you're booted
[14:28] <yyx> hello buddy
[14:29] <Solution-X> anyone here do much with MAAS? I have a fresh install of 14.04 installed as MAAS controller that is being cranky and refuses to load the images. Installed OS, booted up, apt-upgrade, reboot, create MAAS user, login, click download images. Also tried "sudo maas-import-pxe-files" after as a backup and that completes but does not result in the webpage recognizing the images' existence
[14:30] <dknezev_> can't seem to find an answer on the net and hoping someone here knows. using 12.04 google chrome, where are the flash files stored?
[14:31] <k0nceast> Guest19759: it's a boot-time kernel option iirc
[14:31] <Guest19759> k0nceast: Yeah, but is there some way to just dump the changes to a file and then reboot from it?
[14:32] <k0nceast> depends on what you've changed
[14:32] <k0nceast> you could make a folder on your windrive and save all changed config files there
[14:33] <Pici> Solution-X: You may want to try asking in #ubuntu-server too
[14:33] <Solution-X> Pici- good call, thanks
[14:33] <k0nceast> (eg. the files and folders in your home folder that start with a . (dot), hidden by default
[14:34] <delac> any way to hide applications from Dash? Using Alacarte doesn't seem to have effect.
[14:34] <pavlos> dknezev_, /opt/google/chrome/PepperFlash/libpepflashplayer.so
[14:34] <k0nceast> Guest19759: but that doesn't count for everything
[14:34] <k0nceast> eg. added apps
[14:35] <Guest19759> k0nceast: Yeah, the apps are mainly what I want to save. I know I could just re-add Universe and reinstall the stuff I've gotten, but I wonder if there's a way to create the persistant file and dump everything that's changed since boot or something
[14:36] <k0nceast> Guest19759: if you've added repo's for apps, then add the /etc/sources.list file and /etc/sources.d/ dir to the folder
[14:36] <k0nceast> w8
[14:36] <k0nceast> /etc/dpkg/sources.list and .d respectively
[14:37] <dknezev_> pavlos - not really sure what you mean by that. aren't .so library files
[14:37] <k0nceast> and in the dpkg folder might also be a list with names of installed packages, which you could copy there as well
[14:37] <chicaros_> hi fo all
[14:37] <chicaros_> i need help
[14:38] <histo> !clone | Guest19759
[14:38] <k0nceast> Guest19759: and when installed, you could replace the content of the file in the install with the content of the files on your winpartition
[14:38] <k0nceast> histo: No way!!!
[14:38] <chicaros_> same one know redmine?
[14:39] <pavlos> dknezev_, I run 12.04, have chrome, gave you the path of the flash lib. I dont know what you're looking for
[14:39] <k0nceast> that'd saved me hours if i'd known that some years earlier
[14:40] <sovereignentity> how do I get to ~/.local/share/applications/
[14:40] <chicaros_> i need help
[14:40] <chicaros_> redmine
[14:40] <Guest19759> Ah ok. Would be a neet feature at some point though to be able to create a persistant file from what currently is. Thanks all for your help and suggestions, though.
[14:40] <histo> k0nceast: you could easily dpkg --get-selections > somefile
[14:41] <histo> k0nceast: nad --set-selections on the other side
[14:42] <umonkey> Hello. Is there a way to contact paste.ubuntu.com admins? There was a patch that added replaygain to mocp, but it's now gone, perhaps expired. Apparently that was the only location of that patch. Maybe there's a way to extract it from backups, or something.
[14:42] <histo> k0nceast: and then you can install them.
[14:42] <k0nceast> im on arch nowadays
[14:42] <histo> k0nceast: same here
[14:43] <dfgas> anyone know how to enable remote logins on 13.10?
[14:43] <k0nceast> i have Ubuntu for my SO and a few of my friends (I switched them)
[14:44] <k0nceast> people are a lot easier to switch nowadays, since android and iPhones
[14:44] <dknezev_> pavlos, i'm looking for the cached files that must be stored locally which I'm hoping to copy for later viewing, thanks.
[14:45] <histo> dfgas: remote logins for what?
[14:45] <dfgas> to login to X remotely
[14:45] <dfgas> not vnc or teamviewer
[14:45] <k0nceast> maybe b/c people are known to the idea of finding alternative apps/workflows than Windows
[14:45] <histo> dfgas: Okay what client do you intend on using then?
[14:46] <dfgas> histo: xdmcp?
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> k0nceast: you'll probably find its because its lighter and fater and more works out of the box
[14:47] <histo> dfgas: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/xdmcp
[14:47] <histo> ActionParsnip: what's lighter and faster?
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> histo: ubuntu uses a lot fewer resources than windows in most cases
[14:49] <n1n0> holstein tried the link you posted (the second step), without success
[14:49] <Jeroen_Mathon> histo: Mainly becouse ti does not have as much bloatware as windows
[14:49]  * histo **cough **cough Amazon **cough **cough
[14:49] <Jeroen_Mathon> histo: Well we all disable that after a while right
[14:49] <holstein> !details > n1n0
[14:50] <Phlogistique> Hi
[14:51] <Phlogistique> did anyone use upstart successfully in a chroot, when the host machine is _not_ using upstart?
[14:51] <Phlogistique> I cannot figure how to do it
[14:52] <n1n0> can the bookmarks from te default user account can be accessed from within the guest account on the same machine?
[14:52] <n1n0> ...be accessed
[14:52] <Jeroen_Mathon> n1n0: Depends on your browser
[14:52] <n1n0> firefox
[14:52] <Jeroen_Mathon> Not sure about that.
[14:53] <Jeroen_Mathon> Should not be accesable since it got its own home directory
[14:53] <Jeroen_Mathon> That users home directory got its own configuration of firefox
[14:53] <welly> Hello all, I'm trying to ssh to account@localhost but keep getting roaming now allowed on server error. I've checked and set the permissions for my account user .ssh directory and the files under there (700 for .ssh and 600 for the contained files) but am having no luck. Anyone with any suggestions?
[14:53] <Jeroen_Mathon> So no they do not share bookmarks
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> welly: try:  ssh -vvv account@localhost
[14:53] <boolean> morning .. is iptables a 1st match style firewall?
[14:54] <histo> boolean: 1st match?
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> histo: when a rule is matched, no others are processed
[14:54] <histo> ahh
[14:54] <boolean> ActionParsnip: beat me to it :) thanks
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> boolean: usually traffic will only satisfy one rule, otherwise you should have a deny all rule at the bottom that the rest will hit and be denied
[14:55] <welly> ActionParsnip, got the following: http://pastie.org/9302249 but mainly "Roaming not allowed by server" I suspect is the cause
[14:55] <histo> Phlogistique: afaik upstart doesn't work in a chroot
[14:56] <Phlogistique> histo: alright
[14:56] <sovereignentity> what does ~ mean in a path
[14:56] <boolean> ActoinParsnip: therefore, if I have the following mid way through the chain: ACCEPT     all  --  anywhere             anywhere, the packet will pass and all other rules ignore, correct?
[14:56] <dimitry7> Hi guys, does ubuntu server include graphical mode in live cd?
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> welly: check from line 92 down
[14:56] <histo> sovereignentity: /home/username
[14:56] <geirha> sovereignentity: home directory if it's at the start
[14:56] <welly> Oh hmm
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> boolean: to my knowledge, yes
[14:57] <Jeroen_Mathon> dimitry7: Yes
[14:57] <histo> Jeroen_Mathon: ??
[14:57] <dimitry7> Jeroen_Mathon, thank you!! :-)
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> boolean: there is an iptables channel, may help
[14:57] <Jeroen_Mathon> No problem ^_^
[14:57] <boolean> ActionParsnip: ah kewl .. thanks
[14:57] <welly> ActionParsnip, but why would it want a dsa public key when it's already been provided with an rsa public key?
[14:58] <welly> I guess if it wants it, I should give it
[14:58] <WooWooWoo> Hi anyone good at using httrack?
[14:58] <sovereignentity> how do i get the home folder to show hidden files
[14:58] <WooWooWoo> ctr+h
[14:58] <Jeroen_Mathon> Yeah
[14:58] <histo> welly: why are you ssh'ng localhost?
[14:59] <histo> sovereignentity: ls -a
[14:59] <welly> histo, it's more a test than anything. I'm setting up jenkins and don't have a remote server to test on
[15:00] <ptite_chloe> salut
[15:00] <dknezev_> pavlos, ...
[15:00] <geirha> sovereignentity: In shell (terminal) or GUI?
[15:01] <boolean> ActionParsnip: ugh ... iptables doesnt list which interface ( ipytables -L ) the rules apply thus the all to all was for the local loopback
[15:01]  * boolean sighs
[15:01] <welly> Ah ha. It was the formatting of my public key in authorized_keys
[15:01] <boolean> should have done iptable -i <interface> -L
[15:02] <iron> hey, can I talk in here, do I need to auth first?
[15:02] <histo> welly: use ssh-copy-id
[15:02] <cfhowlett> Guest81914 ask your ubuntu questions
[15:02] <histo> Guest81914: we see you
[15:02] <welly> histo, yeah.. should have done that before
[15:03] <Guest81914> ah great, I'm running Ubuntu 12.10, does it update to 14,04 automatically with the updater, or do I need to redownload the whole thing?
[15:03] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade|Guest81914
[15:03] <iptable> boolean, can I help?
[15:03] <iptable> boolean, it's iptables
[15:03] <chudszy> PL ?
[15:04] <cfhowlett> Guest81914 or you can download and clean install - which I recommend
[15:04] <dimitry7> Kali Linux does not run live does it? is there any distro based on Ubuntu / Debian , intended for security that does run live ? Thanks!!
[15:04] <iptable> chudszy, #ubuntu-pl I think
[15:04] <cfhowlett> !kali|dimitry7
[15:04] <Jeroen_Mathon> Dimitry7:It does run live
[15:04] <Guest81914> I have nothing to lose atm on it, so I guess I'll do a clean install
[15:04] <histo> dimitry7: kali runs live
[15:04] <boolean> iptable: tis ok .. i figured it out .. been too long since i played with it
[15:04] <dknezev_> anyone??? can't seem to find an answer on the net and hoping someone here knows. using 12.04 google chrome, where are the cached flash files stored?
[15:04] <Guest81914> is it apt sudo-get install ?
[15:04] <dimitry7> Jeroen_Mathon, well, the options are install, etc. I will check again...
[15:04] <histo> !eol | Guest81914
[15:05] <cfhowlett> Guest81914 torrent the ISO with transmission.  make a USB.  install
[15:05] <cfhowlett> and READ the eolupgrade link
[15:07] <dimitry7> histo, Jeroen_Mathon yes you were right, but only Full ISO, i tried mini :p
[15:07] <dimitry7> mini does not run live
[15:08] <sovereignentity> No synaptic?
[15:09] <varunendra> dimitry7, 'mini' of any distro doesn't run live, that's the whole purpose of making it 'mini' (only essential components)
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> sovereignentity: why? it's not installed by default.....
[15:09] <dimitry7> varunendra, ooh okay, nice!
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> varunendra: you may be able to switch to other TTYs...
[15:09] <histo> dimitry7: mini is for a net install typically
[15:09] <paulus68> I just bought a samsung S24D300 and want to use it as dual screen how do I do this, at the mm
[15:10] <dimitry7> histo, yes, mostly!
[15:10] <paulus68> moment it's connected through hdmi but no signal from pc
[15:10] <histo> dimitry7: it's 25mb you though it would run live?  well it does technically just without any tools
[15:11] <dimitry7> histo, and for example Ubuntu Remix... I booted with it and it gave me a shell $ instead of the GUI, problably my graphics but I runned it on a Power Edge 2950
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: is it connected to a laptop?
[15:11] <sydney> ok,i just installed gnome-fallback,and when i loged in,i only the background loaded.None of the keys i push work,and i cannot log back out. how to fix?
[15:11] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: desktop
[15:11] <histo> dimitry7: distrowatch.org
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: if you reboot with it attached, is it ok?
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: is the hdmi enabled in bios, if it is controlled there
[15:12] <cfhowlett> sydney ctrl alt F6 for a terminal.  sudo reboot
[15:12] <dimitry7> histo, I know it... well I am downloading Ubuntu Server now.
[15:12] <dimitry7> burning indeed...
[15:12] <paulus68> no that's the problem or do I need to do a shutdown restart
[15:12] <paulus68> hdmi should be enabled in the bios
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: should is a powerful word
[15:13] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: true
[15:13] <histo> dimitry7: why are you downloading server?
[15:13] <sydney> cfhowlett: ok,i will be right back.
[15:13] <histo> dimitry7: it's not a live security distro
[15:14] <dimitry7> histo, I know, but this server can't read DVDs, and there is no CD for Kali
[15:14] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: any Idea where to find that option in the bios just to be sure
[15:15] <histo> dimitry7: use usb
[15:15] <dimitry7> histo, it can't boot from USB either :-S
[15:16] <dimitry7> histo, I might try again though... first time it didn't
[15:17] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: it's an asus motherboard
[15:18] <histo> dimitry7: http://distrowatch.org/search.php?ostype=Linux&category=Security&origin=All&basedon=Ubuntu&notbasedon=None&desktop=All&architecture=All&status=Active
[15:18] <dimitry7> histo, let me check
[15:19] <histo> dimitry7: and here is debian based. http://distrowatch.org/search.php?ostype=Linux&category=Security&origin=All&basedon=Debian&notbasedon=None&desktop=All&architecture=All&status=Active
[15:19] <sydney> cfhowlett: i was able to do that,but still nothing shows except the background.
[15:20] <cfhowlett> sydney logout and choose unity.  then login --- test if your system is otherwise installed properly
[15:20] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: when clicking on detect display it does nothing
[15:20] <dimitry7> histo, ooh very, good, thank you!! Will download one of those :-)
[15:20] <sydney> cfhowlett: thats just it,i cannot log out,or do anything.
[15:21] <cfhowlett> sydney over my head.  sorry.  ask again in channel - someone with more experience than I should know
[15:22] <sydney> Ok,I just did a fresh install of Ubuntu gnome,and i decided to install gnome-fallback.well,when i selected gnome fallback and logged back in,nothing loads except the desktop background.I can do ctrl+alt+f1,but thats it.
[15:23] <histo> sydney: do any of the other sessions work?
[15:23] <Locke2002> sydney: What if you right-click the desktop?
[15:23] <sydney> Yes,but i cannot log back out.I Have tried that
[15:23] <sydney> i cannot even see the mouse
[15:24] <histo> sydney: do you have auto login enabled?
[15:24] <sydney> yes
[15:24] <sydney> otherwise this would be easy to fix. ;)
[15:25] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: when changing the HDMI cable to first screen no signal only DVI cable selected
[15:25] <histo> sydney: sudo nano /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[15:25] <histo> sydney: disable the autologin-user
[15:26] <sydney> Using that line?
[15:27] <sydney> thewres nothing else i have to do?
[15:27] <sydney> ok,i will be right back
[15:27] <Guest81914> I completed the download of 14.04 iso, do I put the .iso file on a usb, and reboot the pc?
[15:28] <daftykins> Guest81914: you need to use a program to put it on there, what OS are you on?
[15:28] <Guest81914> 12.10 ubuntu
[15:28] <Walex> Guest81914: yes, there is an install page too. Or you burn it to a CD.
[15:28] <daftykins> *DVD
[15:28] <kevin__> Alguno habla espa;ol?
[15:28] <varunendra> !usb | Guest81914
[15:28] <daftykins> !es | kevin__
[15:29] <pavlos> !es| kevin__
[15:29] <dimitry7> histo, wow, excellent the Debian distros! Thank you man! :-)
[15:29] <dimitry7> * debian-based
[15:31] <TiLAK> http://goo.gl/mSs3yj
[15:32] <user123321> My Ubuntu hanged on boot for 2 consecutive times this morning (after hitting enter in Ubuntu @ boot menu), with only black screen and pressing caps lock key does not even trigger its light. Is there a way to check the boot details etc. any advice?
[15:32] <sydney> Ok,thn what do i do?
[15:32] <user123321> latest LTS
[15:32] <daftykins> user123321: upgraded recently? tried an older kernel?
[15:32] <user123321> daftykins, clean install.
[15:32] <user123321> daftykins, and, no.
[15:33] <daftykins> have you upgraded it since said clean install?
[15:33] <Symphonym> About to do a fresh (re) install of Ubuntu but I always seem to forget what the commands were to boot a liveUSB from the grub2 command line, any help?
[15:33] <user123321> daftykins, just clean install, didn't do major changes intentionally, other than software update and some software installs.
[15:33] <TiLAK> Check this http://goo.gl/mSs3yj
[15:33] <user123321> daftykins, no. I installed the latest version.
[15:33] <daftykins> user123321: so due to said software update (== upgrade) you may have another kernel on
[15:34] <daftykins> user123321: either look for another or run memtest i'd say
[15:34] <sydney> How do i disable automatic login from ctrl+alt+f7?
[15:34] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: ?
[15:34] <user123321> daftykins, I see. But Ubuntu asks me to update right? hmm.
[15:34] <user123321> daftykins, I'd do memtest?
[15:34] <daftykins> user123321: what do you mean asks you to update?
[15:35] <user123321> daftykins, Ubuntu shows "new updates are available"
[15:35] <daftykins> but you said it's not booting...
[15:35] <user123321> daftykins, I make sure things are up to date.
[15:35] <pavlos> sydney, you could go System settings | users and groups and edit that user NOT to autologin
[15:35] <sydney> pavlos: In terminal*
[15:35] <user123321> daftykins, It didn't this morning for 2 consecutive times, but I booted successfully after. This is what freaking me out :/
[15:35] <daftykins> user123321: oh... i misunderstood, by hang you mean it just takes a lot longer
[15:36] <user123321> daftykins, I had to turn off manually.
[15:36] <histo> sydney: I told you edi thte lightdm.conf
[15:36] <daftykins> oh, you got in on the third go? :)
[15:36] <pavlos> sydney, well, someone said to comment out a line in lightdm.conf
[15:36] <sydney> histo: but,what do i type?
[15:36] <daftykins> user123321: yeah straight to memtest then. i don't diagnose anything until that's clean
[15:36] <histo> sydney: sudo nano /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf and disable the autologin-user
[15:36] <user123321> daftykins, Yes, I went to ubuntu recovery, it booted. Then did a restsrt, worked. But I'm scared because I don't know hy it happened, what if it happens again o.O
[15:37] <user123321> daftykins, Oh ok.
[15:38] <sydney> histo: what do i have to type to tell it to disable it?
[15:39] <sydney> histo: im in the editor,but i dont know what to type. :(
[15:39] <varunendra> sydney, the line "autologin-user=" is just that in my system (no auto login). So I guess just remove the user name in that line
[15:39] <histo> sydney: remove your user name or add a # in the front of that line then save the file
[15:41] <sydney> You guys are confusing. i dont see any words on the screen except the editor. is there supposed to be "autologin"somewhere?
[15:42] <sydney> i just have the editor,and a white blinking cursor
[15:42] <daftykins> sounds like you typo'd the file name
[15:42] <pavlos> sydney, there should be 4 lines ... change the autologin-user=sydney to autologin-user=    save, exit.
[15:43] <sydney> There is nothing there.
[15:43] <varunendra> sydney, does "cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf" show any lines? You must exit the editor to run this command.
[15:43] <sydney> Are you forgetting that im using ubuntu gnomes login manager? OR IS THERE NO DIFFERENCE?
[15:43] <daftykins> don't use caps.
[15:44] <sydney> sorry,i bumped it.
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> sydney: if you switched to gdm, you'll need the gdm.conf file
[15:44] <sydney> ok
[15:45] <varunendra> sydney, to see which one you have - "locate lightdm.conf gdm.conf"
[15:46] <eric_tux> hello
[15:46] <eric_tux> I need help to correct a malfunction on a MacBook 5,1 with 14.04 installed
[15:46] <eric_tux> Please you can read a bug report here
[15:46] <eric_tux> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1331360
[15:46] <nick0R0> Hi
[15:47] <eric_tux> can someone help me, because this causes a real problem when I work for my job
[15:47] <sydney> sudo nano /ext/gdm/gdm.conf?
[15:47] <daftykins> /etc/
[15:48] <varunendra> sydney, is the file there? Check its contents with 'cat' first.
[15:48] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: could you help?
[15:48] <nick0R0> So...
[15:48] <varunendra> eric_tux, have you tried reloading the driver?
[15:48] <daftykins> paulus68: no need to hound one user
[15:48] <sydney> No,that didnt show as anytrhing
[15:48] <eric_tux> varunendra: how to do?
[15:49] <paulus68> daftykins:not my intention
[15:50] <varunendra> eric_tux, just guessing here - the driver should be "psmouse", so the commands should be - "sudo modprobe -rv psmouse" ... then ... "sudo modprobe -v psmouse". The first one will disable it, the 2nd one should re-enable it, hopefully properly.
[15:50] <sydney> i wil dink around with it later. :)
[15:50] <paulus68> daftykins: just trying to find a solution that's all and I think Actionparsnip is old enough to tell me that he can't help me
[15:50] <nick0R0> ...How do you remove Ubuntu One (And the service "goodbye" message)??
[15:51] <daftykins> paulus68: asking a question to the whole channel might be more effective
[15:51] <pavlos> sydney, travel the /etc/gdm/ path and look for a conf file (in my case I have custom.conf) if you find it, edit using nano and disable the autologin
[15:51] <paulus68> daftykins: already did that actionparsnip started to reply then left which is not his normal behaviour
[15:52] <sireorion> hi all.. how do i terminate a program.... i cant shutdown wine
[15:53] <eric_tux> varunendra: nop, kernel does not uses psmouse
[15:53] <varunendra> eric_tux, how did you check? lsmod?
[15:53] <eric_tux> the first -rv command does nothing
[15:53] <eric_tux> then I -v , got insmod psmouse
[15:54] <eric_tux> -rv got rmmod psmouse
[15:54] <eric_tux> so I guess the psmouse wasn't loaded the first time
[15:54] <varunendra> eric_tux, I would like to see the outputs of (pastebin links of) "xinput" and "lsmod"
[15:54] <paulus68> I just bought a samsung S24D300 and want to use it as dual screen how do I do this, at the mm
[15:55] <paulus68> moment it's connected through hdmi but no signal from pc
[15:55] <eric_tux> varunendra: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7664317/
[15:58] <varunendra> eric_tux, apparently it is "BCM5974". You may try replacing 'psmouse' with 'bcm5974' in the modprobe commands. But I have no experience with it, so can't say if it may cause any troubles forcing you to reboot.
[15:59] <eric_tux> is bcm5974 linked with the wifi card? I think that wifi or network is part of the problem
[16:00] <varunendra> eric_tux, it is touchpad driver, not wifi
[16:01] <eric_tux> ok fine I'll test next time I have the problem and we append a comment to my bug report
[16:01] <eric_tux> s /we/will/
[16:01] <eric_tux> verunendra thanks
[16:02] <varunendra> eric_tux, you may also try 'xinput float bcm5974' command combo, which is a bit safer. (xinput float bcm5974.... then .... xinput reattach bcm5974 Virtual core pointer)
[16:03] <eric_tux> ok
[16:03] <jhutchins> ubuntu.org is expired and awaiting renewal?
[16:03] <jhutchins> !download
[16:04] <varunendra> eric_tux, a correction - the "Virtual core pointer" must be in single or double quotes, since it has spaces in the name. :)
[16:04] <eric_tux> On my laptop I have 8Go RAM installed, is it normal to find more than 6Go used reported by top (when this problem arrives), swap is totally free?
[16:05] <varunendra> eric_tux, totally normal. The used RAM is used for buffers
[16:05] <nick0R0> So...
[16:05] <nick0R0> ...How do you remove Ubuntu One (And the service "goodbye" message)??
[16:06] <eric_tux> ok chrome eats a *lot* of memory
[16:06] <pavlos> nick0R0, http://askubuntu.com/questions/309122/removing-ubuntu-one
[16:07] <jhutchins> nick0R0: Format the drive?  What do you really want to do?
[16:07] <varunendra> jhutchins, they want to remove just the service, not Ubuntu OS itself :)
[16:08] <Slappy> ok, I been using Linux as my primary desktop os for a couple of years now but I have a problem
[16:08] <Slappy> EVERY SINGLE TIME I install a distro, it is buggy at best, problematic at worst & after only a few months, gets so damn buggy that I have to reinstall it
[16:09] <pavlos> Slappy, no reason for caps
[16:09] <Slappy> Is there ANY Linux distro that I can just install & have work without issue?
[16:09] <kittykitty> anyone know much about HDD noises? :P
[16:10] <caser555> Yes.  When it makes a noise, throw it away and get a new one.
[16:10] <caser555> :)
[16:10] <pavlos> kittykitty, run a smart test of hdd
[16:10] <kittykitty> pavlos, smart returned ok
[16:11] <varunendra> Slappy, depends on the kind of problems you have. Probably just stick with a version that is all set and works, then only allow security updates, disable the rest. Not the best advice, but if stability is the first priority, then..
[16:11] <pavlos> kittykitty, the results should tell you which parms are close to end of life
[16:13] <irreverant> what is the diskpart tool for partition and logical management?
[16:13] <irreverant> qpart?
[16:13] <Slappy> Yeah, I'm running 14.04 now
[16:13] <Slappy> I'm thinking maybe I should downgrade back to 12.04
[16:13] <Slappy> But this is just ridiculous
[16:14] <irreverant> gpart
[16:14] <xmj> morning
[16:14] <varunendra> Slappy, is the list of problems you faced long? Or just a few recurring ones?
[16:15] <Slappy> I mean Pinguy was a disaster, Ubuntu GNOME was a POS, Mint was horrible with the exception of 14, xUbuntu voyager was terrible,
[16:15] <Slappy> eh longish
[16:15] <xmj> I have one of those weird problems: trying to run ubuntu 13.04 in FreeBSD 11's bhyve. someone mangled the config file, so the grub lines are absent
[16:15] <xmj> I need something like this (works with centos): "echo -e \"linux /vmlinuz-2.6.32-042stab081.3 ro root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_root\ninitrd /initramfs-2.6.32-042stab081.3.img\nrescue\nboot\"
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> Slappy: was 12.04 working ok for you?
[16:15] <xmj> can someone help me out with those few lines?
[16:16] <xmj> (or, any vars I could pass to grub that'd work)
[16:17] <jhutchins> Slappy: I've been running various Linux distros on severs since the late 90's, some of which have been up that long.  I've been on a Linux desktop exclusively since 2004.
[16:17] <Wishfull> Hello all
[16:17] <Wishfull> Anyone using Ubuntu as a DC
[16:17] <jhutchins> Wishfull: samba?
[16:17] <Wishfull> yes
[16:17] <Slappy> The problem is, every single linux distro I have ever installed has "Hay der was a problum. da ting herp de derped" pop ups right from the start that just get worse over time. & It's hard for me to keepdrinking the "Linux is so much better than windows" Kool aid when every linux distro I run is MORE unstable & problematic
[16:18] <Wishfull> trying to get a server up but not having luch
[16:18] <jhutchins> Slappy: Maybe it's you.
[16:18] <daftykins> Slappy: amusingly that message makes me think you've just got a dead hard disk for all these installs
[16:18] <Slappy> doubt it
[16:18] <Wishfull> Thats true, but Id like to think Im missing soming
[16:19] <jhutchins> Slappy: I don't have problems like that, but then again I don't use ppas or load third party bleeding edge software.
[16:19] <varunendra> Slappy, Or an incompatible hardware, maybe post the 'list-of-problems' at Ubuntu Forums, and ask for advice there. :)
[16:19] <jhutchins> Slappy: What you describe isn't common to the hundreds of Linux systems I'm responsible for at work either.
[16:20] <varunendra> Slappy, by the way, whoever says "Linux is so much better than windows" - is lying. It is subjective at best.
[16:20] <daftykins> let's not even entertain the 'better' conversation please, it's off topic.
[16:20] <Slappy> My hardware is all just fine, checked it all over multiple times. Ram, HDD, etc, all checks out fine, & the MD5 on the ISO's all check out too
[16:20] <xmj> Slappy: come over to the dark side.
[16:20] <Slappy> I agree it is subjective btw
[16:21] <varunendra> Slappy, how old or new is the hardware? Incompatible != Broken
[16:21] <daftykins> Slappy: so you install 14.04 desktop, fully update it then suddenly it starts going wrong?
[16:22] <Slappy> yeah& it's about 2 & a half years old
[16:22] <Slappy> but badblocks & the disk utility all come back clean with no bad sectors
[16:23] <compdoc> no reallocated or pending sectors
[16:23] <daftykins> Slappy: i'd rather see smartctl output than those
[16:23] <Slappy> Crud, I need to head to work
[16:23] <paulus68>  howto check if my HDMI support is enabled in Ubuntu for either my video card or motherboard
[16:23] <Slappy> Ok, to be continued when I return
[16:24] <varunendra> Slappy, I am mostly active in wireless troubleshooting, and I know that many drivers are facing 'regression' due to some critical changes in the kernel code. For example, most Atheros cards work best with kernel 3.2 series, but not the newer ones. Can't say about other kind of problems.
[16:25] <sydney> How do i change th defult grub after setting up dual boot?
[16:25] <daftykins> 'the default grub' ?
[16:25] <varunendra> sydney, what do you wish to change in the menu?
[16:25] <sydney> uups
[16:25] <sydney> defalt OS in grub
[16:26] <sydney> How do i make a certian os defult in the grub?
[16:26] <varunendra> sydney, edit the /etc/default/grub file, then "sudo update-grub"
[16:27] <varunendra> sydney, the top item in the list is numbered '0', the next is '1' and so on.
[16:27] <pavlos> sydney, http://askubuntu.com/questions/401023/how-to-edit-grub-default-operating-system
[16:27] <jhutchins> I wish there were a way to generate the menu that grub displays without having to boot, just so you could verify changes.
[16:28] <varunendra> sydney, in /etc/default/grub, change the line "GRUB_DEFAULT=0" to "GRUB_DEFAULT=3" for example (to boot the 4th item in the menu)
[16:28] <sydney> ah,ok :D
[16:29] <kn8il> sydney, two options, http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/change-boot-order-in-ubuntu-13-10-13-04/
[16:29] <sydney> it wont allow me to save :(
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> sydney: do you want Windows to be default?
[16:29] <sydney> No,i want ubuntu 12.04 to be,not 14.04
[16:29] <xmj> Sooo
[16:30] <e^> sydney: use sudo
[16:30] <varunendra> sydney, what won't allow you to save? Have you opened it on a text editor without root privilege?
[16:30] <varunendra> sydney, you can also use a single line 'sed' command ;p
[16:30] <sydney> So,how do i use sudo?
[16:30] <e^> sydney: sudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> varunendra: sed is awesome
[16:31] <varunendra> sydney, if in 12.04, "gksu gedit /etc/default/grub"
[16:31] <varunendra> ActionParsnip, totally agree :D
[16:31] <sydney> thanks!!
[16:31] <sydney> i will be right back...
[16:32] <varunendra> ..hopefully :/
[16:33] <subb1> hi folks
[16:35] <subb1> I run 14.04. Everyday I start my desktop when I try to browse websites, they don't resolve to an ip. SImultaneously I'm able to ping public IPs though. Then only way is to add Google's public DNS servers to resolv.conf by hand. What is the issue? how can I troubleshoot?
[16:35] <e^> sydney: did it work?
[16:36] <pavlos> subb1, maybe there is a typo in the dns info
[16:36] <varunendra> subb1, if google's (or any other) DNS works, you should add it in Network Manager to make it permanent.
[16:36] <subb1> pavlos, what typo?
[16:36] <sydney> e^: i think the main grub config file is on my other partion. :(
[16:36] <sydney> I have to go...
[16:37] <subb1> varunendra, no I wouldn't want that though. I'd like to use the NS by my ISP.
[16:37] <pavlos> subb1, where and how did you change dns info?
[16:37] <subb1> resolv.conf pavlos
[16:37] <delac> any way to hide applications from Dash? Using Alacarte doesn't seem to have effect.
[16:38] <varunendra> subb1, if changing or adding DNS is solving the problem, then almost certainly the default DNS is the problem. The one shown by "nm-tool"
[16:38] <skinux> I installed Ubuntu over again to another partition and now both boot entries boot the second installation?
[16:39] <trism> delac: OnlyShowIn= in the .desktop file works, I use that to hide the amazon one
[16:39] <MERB> Dell has refered me to Ubuntu for support... Trying to install new Chipset, and Running Linux Ubuntu, found the file: "9020_A03.fish.tar.gz" on Dell support site just for doing that... the Instructions say just double click the file and follow the prompt. Those instructions help me not nil... There are multiple files/dirs which seem to be for different machines
[16:39] <MERB> Anyone able to shed some light
[16:40] <subb1> varunendra, my DNS server is shown as my router - 192.168.1.1. It's also the gateway
[16:40] <delac_> trism: sry, got logged off. So no nice editor for easy modifications?
[16:41] <varunendra> subb1, then the router is doing the job of DNS-request forwarding. Make sure it is configured correctly.
[16:41] <e^> MERB: tar -xzvf 9020_*.tar.gz
[16:41] <MERB> e^ i know how to extract the contents
[16:42] <MERB> but then i'm stuck ;(
[16:42] <pragmatism> part
[16:42] <trism> delac_: there could be, but I don't hide that many so it is just easier for me to copy them to ~/.local/share/applications/ and add/edit that line
[16:42] <delac_> trism: ok, thanks
[16:42] <MERB> debs, preseed, scripts and a text file prepackage.dell... None of which tell me anything
[16:43] <varunendra> going afk..
[16:43] <MERB> the dirs have a fair ammount of stuff, but I have no idea with file would be for me machine
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> MERB: install unp and run:   unp 9020_A03.fish.tar.gz
[16:44] <MERB> I know how to unpack the .tar.gz file
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> MERB: use the unp command, it will need installing
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> MERB: works on any archive you can name
[16:45] <MERB> I can file 3 shell scripts in one dir and and like 10 deb packages
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> MERB: what are the script names?
[16:45] <subb1> any hints guys?
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> MERB: or provide a pastebin of all the file names
[16:45] <pavlos> subb1, can you ping google.com
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> subb1: can you ping 8.8.8.8 ?
[16:46] <MERB> AP: 05-gfx-fglrx.sh  05-nvidia-installer.sh  12-sunix-install.sh
[16:46] <subb1> pavlos, I can now ping google.com. But when there's the issue, google.com does not resolve. Yes I can ping 8.8.8.8 when the resolution issue is there.
[16:46] <subb1> ActionParsnip ^^
[16:47] <pavlos> subb1, from your browser can you see https//www.google.com?
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> subb1: try:   echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee -a /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head > /dev/null
[16:47] <subb1> pavlos, thanks guys.. but it's not help.
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> subb1: reboot and test
[16:47] <subb1> helping*
[16:48] <subb1> you're not getting my point :(
[16:48] <subb1> I want to pin down the problem to my router or dnsmasq
[16:48] <sydney> If i delete my os on my other partion,then run sudo ubdate-grub,will it hurt anything?
[16:48] <sydney> sudo update-grub*
[16:48] <subb1> ActionParsnip, yes I add 8.8.8.8 to resolv.conf when that issue occurs and it solves for me.
[16:48] <pavlos> subb1, you tell us you can ping a site but using your browser it does not resolve. dns is correct so I'm confused.
[16:49] <e^> sydney: did you run update-grub after the edit a while ago?
[16:49] <e^> before you restarted?
[16:49] <subb1> pavlos, you didn't get my point
[16:49] <sydney> yes
[16:49] <e^> sydney: try grub-mkconfig
[16:49] <sydney> ok
[16:49] <e^> check that the file is still edited correctly first
[16:49] <e^> gksu gedit /etc/default/grub
[16:51] <sydney> sudo grub-mkconfig?
[16:51] <e^> yeah no need for sudo i think
[16:51] <sydney> ok,rebooting
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> e^: for reading, sudo is not needed :P)
[16:51] <gartral> how do I reset MTP connections..
[16:52] <e^> ActionParsnip: i know but in case he needs to edit it.
[16:53] <e^> sydney: any luck?
[16:53] <sydney> nope
[16:54] <sydney> im going to reboot again...
[16:55] <bitbandit> guys what is this package? "libreoffice 1:4.2.3~rc3-0ubuntu2" I have libre office installed and this package is not installed.
[16:55] <daftykins> it's probably the meta package that refers to all the others
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> bitbandit: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[16:56] <sydney> just forget it,i can live with it. :D
[16:57] <sydney> thanks for you help though!! :D
[16:57] <kn8il> sydney, For the record you can from either ubuntu just insert grub to the mbr and it will be the default
[16:57] <kittykitty> i forgot who i was talking to about HDDs
[16:58] <daftykins> kittykitty: what's your query?
[16:59] <pavlos> kittykitty, we talked about smartctl /dev/sda and look at the TYPE column for indications of fail
[16:59] <kittykitty> lol ok, i just forgot your name pavlos :P
[16:59] <kittykitty> the network died and then my ubuntu box froze sooo :P (Theres another issue to fix, xserver hanging...)
[17:00] <bitbandit> ActionParsnip: 14.04 LTS
[17:01] <Symphonym> What's with the "Canonical Partner" ppa's? As far as I understand they contain third party programs such as Skype, so assuming I want skype installed should I mark the checkbox for the partner ppa in the "Other Software" tab?
[17:01] <bitbandit> daftykins: i guess that if it was a meta package it would be marked as installed.
[17:02] <daftykins> bitbandit: i've seen odd situations ;)
[17:02] <bitbandit> daftykins: BTW i cant install it. there is some kind of dependency conflict
[17:02] <daftykins> would you like to pastebin it?
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> bitbandit: ok and run:  apt-cache policy libreoffice     and pastebin the output please
[17:02] <holstein> !skype
[17:04] <sydney> I need to mount a drive as sudo.How do i do that?
[17:05] <e^> do you know the /dev/sdXy of it ?
[17:05] <paulus68>  howto check if my HDMI support is enabled in Ubuntu for either my video card or motherboard
[17:05] <bitbandit> libreoffice:
[17:05] <bitbandit>   Installed: (none)
[17:05] <bitbandit>   Candidate: 1:4.2.3~rc3-0ubuntu2
[17:05] <bitbandit>   Version table:
[17:05] <bitbandit>      1:4.2.3~rc3-0ubuntu2 0
[17:05] <bitbandit>         500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/universe amd64 Packages
[17:05] <unopaste> bitbandit you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[17:06] <e^> sydney: go to the dash and type "disks"
[17:06] <sydney>  /media/12008ed4-02cc-4753-9f63-2bc4c5390ac7
[17:07] <sydney> im using gnome fallback in 12.04 ;)
[17:08] <sydney> I can see the file i want to edit,but i dont have the permissions.
[17:09] <e^> type in the terminal: gksu nautilus
[17:09] <e^> and edit it
[17:10] <sydney> ok
[17:11] <sydney> histo: are you on?
[17:11] <sydney> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7664684/
[17:11] <sydney> Everyone,what do i have to change in here to disable automatic logon? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7664684/
[17:12] <trijntje> sydney: ths
[17:13] <paulus68>  howto check if my HDMI support is enabled in Ubuntu for either my video card or motherboard
[17:13] <trijntje> sydney: cant you tell from the name?
[17:13] <Ziber> Hey, I'm trying to setup an ipv6 tunnel, and have it setup in my interfaces file. When I try to 'ifup' if, it says it already exists. But it does not appear in ifconfig.
[17:13] <trijntje> paulus68: plug in an HDMI monitor?
[17:14] <paulus68> trijntje: is already plugged in and not working
[17:14] <sydney> trijntje: the name?
[17:14] <e^> paulus68: press the keyboard shortcut on your laptop
[17:15] <e^> f4 or f8 or something
[17:15] <paulus68> e^: it's a desktop
[17:15] <sydney> trijntje: its the config of gdm
[17:16] <trijntje> sydney: the names of the options are pretty clear, automatic login and timed login
[17:16] <sydney> trijntje: what is timed login?
[17:17] <sydney> trijntje: so i just have to change those 2 to false?
[17:17] <e^> paulus68: go to settings > display and select the monitor and press "on"
[17:17] <paulus68> e^: monitor is not mentioned
[17:17] <sydney> ok,will be right back
[17:17] <trijntje> I think so. I have no experience with gdm, but that sounds like a good guess
[17:18] <paulus68> e^: also when changing the hdmi to original screen gives no signal
[17:19] <paulus68> e^: goal is to use this screen as second screen like an extended desktop
[17:19] <xmj> so
[17:20] <Ziber> Is there a surefire way to completely take down a network interface so I can start it up again? v4tunnel, if it matters.
[17:20] <e^> paulus68: well it is do-able.
[17:20] <xmj> can someone tell me what filesystem the ubuntu isos have?
[17:21] <e^> paulus68: try pressing on detect displays (settings>display), also is there a "mirrored display" option to select on the right?
[17:24] <sydney> It worked,thanks so much!!
[17:26] <kittykitty> Xserver hung before... Infact the whole laptop im using did :P Any ideas?
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> kittykitty: does CTRL + ALT + F1   drop you to a command line ok?
[17:27] <kittykitty> ive rebooted since then ActionParsnip
[17:27] <paulus68> e^: yes but all grayed out
[17:27] <kittykitty> its running from a USB HDD on intel integrated graphics on 14.04 using intel drivers from 01.intel.org
[17:27] <e^> paulus68: great it means it see's your second screen.
[17:28] <Iridium> Greetings gentlemen...
[17:28] <daftykins> hi
[17:28] <paulus68> e^: no it just sees 1 screen
[17:28] <kn8il> xmj, what is the end goal kinda a strange question is all.
[17:29] <nico103> hi
[17:29] <e__> paulus68: there should be a box representing the display in the top section click on it and set it to "on"
[17:29] <kittykitty> any ideas ActionParsnip
[17:29] <kittykitty> ?
[17:29] <nico103> what's the process for getting a pkg updated?
[17:29] <paulus68> e^: my principal screen is in that box and that's it
[17:29] <kn8il> nico103, apt-get update and upgarde
[17:29] <nico103> no, I mean, in the repo
[17:30] <e__> paulus68: nevermind i thought you had "mirrored on/off" in gray
[17:30] <nico103> I filed a bug to get jq updated to 1.4
[17:30] <Iridium> I've tried to upgrade to latest trusty, but, when I run the upgrader, it shows me a message: Unable to upgrade. The tmp isn't mounted or doens not exist. Try to mount and run again"... I tried to run ''mount /tmp /tmp --not succeeded.
[17:30] <nico103> kn8il: so far there's no action on it
[17:30] <kn8il> nico103, nothing you can do really
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> kittykitty: you could test your RAM using Memtest86+ from Grub, make sure RAM is ok
[17:31] <kittykitty> Ok, ill have to do that later ActionParsnip. Anything i could do in the meantime?
[17:31] <nico103> kn8il: oh, I was hoping maybe there was a bit more of a community around this that could contribute to getting a pkg updated more quickly
[17:31] <nico103> k, thanks
[17:31] <xmj> kn8il: nvm
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> kittykitty: could check in /var/log  files to see if anything was reported there
[17:31] <xmj> solved by just plain mounting the .iso.
[17:31] <kittykitty> i think it might have to do with the battery running low tbh
[17:32] <kn8il> nico103, It is the developers territory, that area has to be secure is all
[17:32] <paulus68> e__: only thing I can think of is see if I can launch a live cd and see if it's gonna be detected there, also with a standard monitor cable it's not detecting any signal
[17:33] <kn8il> xmj, That is why I asked.
[17:34] <e^> paulus68: give it a shot.
[17:35] <xmj> kn8il: (took a while to get my system to load the iso, and to understand that i hadn't yet installed it.)
[17:35] <paulus68> e^: bbl dinner
[17:35] <kn8il> xmj, That makes no sense within the context but glad your set. ;)
[17:36] <kn8il> at least to me anyway
[17:37] <e^> paulus68: check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1641854
[17:37] <e^> when you're back
[17:40] <skinux> repost: I installed Ubuntu over again to another partition and now both boot entries boot the second installation?
[17:40] <Symphonym> Is the Unity tweak tool safe to use? Meaning that it won't corrupt my GUI or anything similar?
[17:40] <nydel> my apt-get is all messed up this morning apparently on account of package openstack-dashboard-ubuntu-theme -- does anyone know about this?
[17:40] <daftykins> Symphonym: everything's safe when you have backups
[17:41] <ObrienDave> skinux, you'll have to edit one of them to find the first installation
[17:41] <skinux> Okay.
[17:41] <skinux> Why did Ubuntu installer change the first one anyway?
[17:41] <daftykins> maybe you made a mistake
[17:42] <ObrienDave> couldn't tell ya, sorry
[17:42]  * skinux steps away
[17:42] <tsquad> hello, im looking for a bit of help setting up a static ip on my wlan addaptor through the terminal, can anyone help me out with this please?
[17:43] <linda> Hello my name is linda
[17:43] <nydel> here is my apt-get output http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7664793/ just trying to update, but getting stuck because of openstack-dashboard-ubuntu-theme
[17:43] <MrJohnnZ> you aren't my granmar are you?
[17:43] <daftykins> linda: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[17:43] <nydel> not even sure what that package does. any help appreciated.
[17:44] <clevas> Is there a simple way of dual booting win 8 with ubuntu yet or do we still have to follow 10 pages of guidelines?
[17:44] <theadmin> clevas: It's pretty simple if you let the installer handle the partitioning automatically
[17:44] <linda> no, i am just here to get a registration code
[17:44] <ObrienDave> nydel, run "sudo apt-get -f install"
[17:44] <clevas> did that 20 times and get grub error everytime at startup
[17:44] <daftykins> linda: what kind of code?
[17:44] <theadmin> linda: wuh? Ubuntu is free software, there are no codes
[17:45] <nydel> ObrienDave: i did, it's in the pastebin
[17:45] <nydel> line 10
[17:45] <ObrienDave> sorry, quick read :)
[17:45] <nydel> all good bud i forgot to add newlines there :p
[17:46] <tsquad> can anyone help me set a static ip on my wlan addaptor, the guides i have followed have not worked for me
[17:46] <daftykins> nydel: sooo... it's telling you what's wrong, so have you looked into fixing your apache config?
[17:46] <linda> a registration code so i can view tutorials
[17:46] <daftykins> linda: what website are you looking at where you believe you need a code?
[17:47] <ObrienDave> linda, as in where?
[17:47] <linda> Welcome screen
[17:47] <MrJohnnZ> you sure that isn't the password box?
[17:47] <Redban> Hi all, just installed Steam on Ubuntu 14.04 but it won't start. I get this error: http://i.imgur.com/q9Q14kp.png
[17:47] <Redban> please help ! thanks in advance
[17:48] <linda> tried to see tutorials
[17:48] <ObrienDave> linda, can you pastebin or imgur something for us to see?
[17:49] <ObrienDave> what tutorials?
[17:49] <daftykins> i'm beginning to think it's a bot.
[17:49] <ObrienDave> i guess
[17:50] <nydel> thank you daftykins not sure how i mised that or how my apache2.conf got altered. it just had an extra char at the end. removed it, restarted the service, and apt-get -f install worked.
[17:50] <daftykins> nydel: great :)
[17:51] <kristenbb> hi, I was updating my ubuntu 14.04 and suddenly the screen went purplish, and I had no choice but to hard reboot. Since then, when I boot, I have the message 'error : file not found. grub rescue>'. What to do?
[17:52] <nydel> kristenbb: can you boot an ubuntu from a flash or something? you could then mount your installation and replace the /boot directory with what's on the flash drive (back up your installation's /boot)
[17:52] <daftykins> kristenbb: where are you typing from now?
[17:52] <kristenbb> daftykins: another computer
[17:52] <skinux> Oh, I know why...because Ubuntu at least tried to write to MBR, which obviously didn't work right.
[17:52] <daftykins> kristenbb: as nydel started saying, boot a live USB then chroot the install and finish the update and upgrade
[17:53] <kristenbb> is that the only solution ? it does not seem easy
[17:53] <daftykins> it's extremely easy
[17:53] <daftykins> kristenbb: do you have any data on that system that you haven't backed up?
[17:53] <kristenbb> can you guide me through it then please ?
[17:54] <kristenbb> daftykins: yes, of course, unfortunately, as is often the case
[17:54] <nydel> unfortunately it sounds like your booting is out of whack so there's no magic keystroke or anything. but it's easier than you expect.
[17:54] <daftykins> i can point you to the guide
[17:54] <daftykins> !chroot | kristenbb
[17:54] <daftykins> kristenbb: make up your bootable USB / DVD, boot the affected system then have a look at the above link. ask again in here if you get stuck
[17:54] <neutralizer> have anyone here done any research on ARM 64 Bit SoC? Which is best for Ubuntu etc?
[17:54] <nydel> daftykins: i do this pretty often without chroot. chroot as a concept will confuse casual users
[17:55] <daftykins> nydel: yeah, i don't like your boot transplant idea though
[17:55] <kristenbb> daftykins: nydel: also I chose the option to encrypt the home folder during the installation process, will that not be an issue ?
[17:55] <daftykins> oh great, encryption :(
[17:55] <nydel> daftykins: kristenbb: what you really need is to make sure that your /initd.img & /vmlinuz are pointing to things that exist and aren't broken
[17:56] <daftykins> it shouldn't matter for this approach
[17:56] <nydel> that doesn't have to involve copying over the entire boot directory
[17:56] <kristenbb> nydel: I have no idea what you're talking about :)
[17:56] <daftykins> nydel: if you're going to be here long enough to help, you're welcome to try your approach... however i will be heading off shortly
[17:56] <nydel> kristenbb: there are two pointer files called symbolic links in the / directory that point at which kernel version to use (the heart of your linux)
[17:57] <nydel> they are /initrd.img and /vmlinuz
[17:57] <daftykins> nydel: i know you mean well but a documented chroot with a help link is far better than what you're trying to explain ;)
[17:57] <nydel> you need to make sure that they are pointing to existing, non-broken files inside the /boot directory
[17:57] <daftykins> kristenbb: are you working on getting boot media created? :)
[17:58] <kristenbb> yes
[17:59] <kristenbb> ok I just run the live cd, what now ?
[17:59] <kristenbb> I chose try ubuntu without installing
[17:59] <daftykins> kristenbb: i gave you a link to follow
[17:59] <daftykins> yes
[17:59] <MrJohnnZ> install it if you like it
[17:59] <daftykins> MrJohnnZ: that's not what's going on here. it's a support situation
[17:59] <MrJohnnZ> ah I see
[17:59] <KGM70> o/
[18:00] <kn8il> kristenbb, You can boot to the OS with this tool and fix from there. http://www.supergrubdisk.org/super-grub2-disk/
[18:00] <daftykins> oh i do enjoy a too-many-cooks situation
[18:01] <KGM70> doubt the questioner enjoys it
[18:01] <kn8il> options if the user understands are the best learning situation daftykins
[18:01] <kristenbb> i'll try the chroot option, if you would be kind enough to stick around for just a few minutes
[18:01] <kristenbb> it's still loading
[18:02] <daftykins> KGM70: it was sarcasm
[18:03] <KGM70> daftykins, ok
[18:04] <kristenbb> ok i'm in. so what folder am I to chroot ?
[18:04] <KGM70> sarcasm doesn't come across well in text form
[18:04] <daftykins> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot
[18:05] <daftykins> kristenbb: skip on down to "Setting up the chroot"
[18:05] <kristenbb> that's what i'm reading but all is not clear
[18:05] <jordan223> I broke the grub on a live USB. Any way to fix it? I performed a dist-upgrade on my live usb, and then after restart I got a black screen with "Boot Error" in white text when I try to boot to the live USB. Ubuntu 12.04.
[18:05] <daftykins> kristenbb: is the live session connected online ok? can you visit paste.ubuntu.com ?
[18:05] <kristenbb> yes
[18:06] <kn8il> jordan223, a dist-upgrade will call kernels a bad idea on a live
[18:06] <daftykins> kristenbb: good stuff. run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit" please
[18:06] <jordan223> kn8il Gotcha, didn't know. So only do upgrades on live sessions?
[18:07] <kristenbb> wait what ? what about the chroot ? i havent done anything yet
[18:07] <kn8il> jordan223, The problem with a live is the iso is not changed, you only add configs, you are better with a full install on a usb big enough.
[18:08] <daftykins> kristenbb: i know, these are the steps beforehand.
[18:08] <n1n0> holstein are you here?
[18:08] <jordan223> kn8il, Thanks for the help. I guess I've never thought about trying that. What is the difference between a live session on a USB and a full install on a USB?
[18:09] <kn8il> jordan223, live is an iso with configs added as you update, a full install is the OS and is made to be updated
[18:09] <kn8il> jordan223, The usb is incidental
[18:10] <WilsonMathew> Hello, I was trying to install awesomewm along with unity of ubuntu 14.04lst. So It kept giving me an erros related to the status file so I did "mv /var/lib/dpkg/status-old /var/lib/dpkg/status" and now my apt-get doesn't work. I figure I would run a fsck and this is what I got: http://codepad.org/kbpEaBN8 everytime I try to press 2 so that it fixes the problem It just says that it din't make any changes. So is there another way to fix this or to do it
[18:10] <WilsonMathew>  manually?
[18:10] <Iridium> Which is the command to do the release upgrade?
[18:10] <kn8il> jordan223, Incidental meaning it is the same as a internal except slower in being read and running is all.
[18:11] <daftykins> Iridium: do-release-upgrade
[18:11] <clevas> I just checked and my win8.1 is installed in legacy mode. Why am i still getting grub error un ubuntu trying dual boot?
[18:11] <kristenbb> daftykins: omg i'm just realizing something nasty. fdisk -l only shows /dev/sdaX, whereas I have 2 disks on my computer :(. Does that mean my disk is dead ?
[18:11] <jordan223> kn8il, I use my live USB so that I can acess my specific dropbox and user account and everything when I insert hte USB into various generic computers at school and stuff. Will a full install still work?
[18:11] <kn8il> !bootinfo | clevas
[18:11] <daftykins> kristenbb: that might explain why it's not booting, how are they partitioned?
[18:12] <clevas> ok
[18:12] <daftykins> kristenbb: desktop or laptop?
[18:12] <kn8il> clevas, Run that and post the url of the scripts output, can be ruin from a live
[18:12] <kn8il> run*
[18:12] <Iridium> daftykins: I've got an error when running the system updater, something is wrong with the /tmp..
[18:13] <kristenbb> daftykins: desktop. the sda that is shown here is just data, and the os is on the other disk (sdb, i guess), which is a ssd
[18:13] <daftykins> Iridium: do you feel like pasting said error to paste.ubuntu.com or do i get 20 questions?
[18:14] <kn8il> jordan223, Yeah, the live is find just don't run updates is all.
[18:14] <Iridium> daftykins: Where that is coming from?
[18:14] <daftykins> kristenbb: hmm, can you run the commands i said anyway so i can see fdisk's output? "sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit"
[18:14] <kn8il> jordan223, Either work, just updating the live is problematic.
[18:14] <michagogo> Hi, can I make grep search for a certain string, but only if a certain other string doesn't appear later in the same line?
[18:14] <Iridium> daftykins: I got this: This usually is caused by a system where /tmp is mounted noexec. Please remount without noexec and run the upgrade again.
[18:15] <daftykins> Iridium: that's a pretty obvious error to me, what version are you on?
[18:15] <michagogo> For example, say I have a bunch of 15-20 line blocks of listings
[18:15] <jordan223> kn8il, based on what you're saying, it sounds like there is absolutely no advantage to running the live session
[18:15] <michagogo> Each line is a key and a value
[18:15] <daftykins> michagogo: man grep
[18:16] <kristenbb> daftykins: there's really nothing to see, the first disk is just data and is GPT, so it just says 'the util fdisk doesn't support GPT', and some info about cylinders size.
[18:16] <kn8il> jordan223, There is in specific context, for example if you have no persistent set up nit save no info, it is really what the context of use is.
[18:16] <kn8il> it saves*
[18:16] <Iridium> daftykins: 13.10 Saucy
[18:16] <kristenbb> daftykins: and gparted also only shows one disk
[18:17] <tsquad> Can anyone help me set a static ip on my wlan adapter?
[18:17] <michagogo> daftykins: does that manpage include information on the actual search patterns?
[18:17] <daftykins> kristenbb: ok, try "sudo parted -l" instead
[18:17] <daftykins> michagogo: one way to find out
[18:18] <OerHeks> tsquad, desktop or server?
[18:19] <kristenbb> daftykins: this shows 2 devices, the same data disk and the dvd optical drive
[18:19] <tsquad> OerHeks, desktop
[18:19] <jordan223> kn8il: cheers mate!
[18:19] <Iridium> daftykins: So, you've got something?
[18:19] <OerHeks> tsquad, easy, open networkmanager on your top panel, edit your connection and off you go
[18:19] <kn8il> jordan223, One of the problems with a live with persistence is that you can't clean the persistence it just fills up, but you can delete it and just have the iso boot without persistence.
[18:19] <daftykins> kristenbb: time to power off and check the drive is even being detected by your BIOS/EFI then
[18:20] <daftykins> Iridium: the message you posted says exactly what to do, can you pastebin your /etc/fstab ?
[18:20] <kn8il> jordan223, Hope all that helps. ;)
[18:20] <jordan223> kn8il good to know
[18:20] <tsquad> OerHeks i did that but it didnt quite work, it worked untill i turned the computer off
[18:21] <tsquad> OerHeks i have been trying to do it through the terminal
[18:21] <OerHeks> tsquad, be sure the adress is available, use some higher adress like 192.168.1.100 to be sure it is not handed out to an other user
[18:22] <daftykins> kristenbb: do you follow?
[18:22] <OerHeks> tsquad, terminal? why? that is why you have networkmanager
[18:23] <tsquad> OerHeks because the terminal is much funner :D and i have had issues with net manager in the past not holding my static ip's
[18:23] <tsquad> OerHeks and the ip is not being used, i have checked that
[18:23] <daftykins> tsquad: static IP on wireless when you're running desktop is a bad move
[18:23] <kristenbb> daftykins: yes, i'm in the bios, i'm using the asus uefi bios. i'm not sure, but it would seem it's not recognized there :(
[18:24] <daftykins> kristenbb: ok, did you assemble this PC yourself?
[18:24] <tsquad> daftykins my nic went out so its my only option right now, that pc hosts a teamspeak 3 server
[18:24] <kristenbb> daftykins: yes, some time ago
[18:24] <daftykins> kristenbb: what kind of SSD is it?
[18:25] <chrs_> theres something to be said for the fact that i can google stuff faster than i can find it in man pages
[18:25] <OerHeks> tsquad, can't help you there, as you need to remove nmanager etc
[18:25] <kristenbb> daftykins: but it's been a while since i last touched anything, and it was all fine until a few minutes ago
[18:25] <voidwalkr> was anyone successful in running ms office 2010 through wine without problems or glitches? is there a mac office that you can run directly maybe from linux?
[18:25] <chrs_> that means google is really good or man pages are bad
[18:25] <tsquad> OerHeks i have disabled it already
[18:25] <michagogo> daftykins: From what I'm seeing, I don't see a way to say "not this string", other than maybe [^t][^h][^e][^ ][^s][^t][^r][^i][^n][^g]
[18:25] <michagogo> Is that right, or am I missing something?
[18:25] <daftykins> kristenbb: ok, well wishful thinking won't help... only action
[18:26] <kristenbb> daftykins: so what am I to do
[18:26] <Pici> michagogo: grep "thing1"  | grep -v "thing2"
[18:26] <michagogo> Pici: I need context
[18:26] <daftykins> kristenbb: what kind of SSD is it? second time asking now...
[18:27] <Pici> michagogo: okay? That will bring the entire line.
[18:27] <michagogo> I need the 10 lines before and 5 lines after each line that starts with "foo" but doesn't contain "bar"
[18:27] <kristenbb> daftykins: i was trying to look it up, sorry for the delay. it's a patriot wildfire
[18:28] <kristenbb> daftykins: i just took it out on my hands, it's still very slightly hot
[18:28] <michagogo> (I thought about multiple greps, but I don't see a way to make it work with line context)
[18:28] <daftykins> kristenbb: ok good, power off the machine fully and then plug it back in, see if you can get the EFI to recognise it
[18:28] <michagogo> Pici: Would `grep "foo.*[^b][^a][^r]` work?
[18:29] <michagogo> It's the only way I can see in the manpage that seems like it might work
[18:29] <Pici> michagogo: it should...
[18:29] <michagogo> or rather, the only thing I can think of from the manpage
[18:29] <michagogo> er, you know what I mean
[18:29] <vladhaund_> what's the program that is running the clock on ubuntu?
[18:30] <michagogo> Pici: Erm, no, it doesn't work
[18:31] <kn8il> vladhaund_, What is the end goal?
[18:31] <michagogo> Oh, I know why -- because it's looking for something that
[18:31] <michagogo> 's not those characters
[18:31] <michagogo> Each [^x] is searching for a character that's not x
[18:31] <kn8il> vladhaund_, Or the issue? these sort of questions need that for real help.
[18:31] <paulus68> I have this monitor S24D300 from samsung I have the hdmi and vga cables connected but the monitor is not reacting how do I solve this?
[18:32] <vladhaund_> I'm looking for the program that ubuntu is using for the clock which has the world clock to add by settings to another distro
[18:32] <paulus68> is there a way to make it work with the windows drivers? just a thought
[18:33] <vladhaund_> because openbox gives me a crappy clock and I really like the ubuntu's default clock
[18:33] <kn8il> vladhaund_, preface with nicks here please, this a custom distro your making, why would you need to transfer this?
[18:33] <kristenbb> daftykins: still not working
[18:33] <daftykins> kristenbb: so you're in the setup and it's showing a page where it detects the other disk and maybe the optical, but no SSD in port 0?
[18:33] <kristenbb> daftykins: where does that 'grub rescue' error come from ? does that not mean that the disk is working ?
[18:34] <daftykins> kristenbb: maybe at some point your other disk was your OS disk, so it's still got GRUB on it but no config and no kernels to boot?
[18:34] <vladhaund_> or is ubuntu users very secretive about what clock they are using?
[18:34] <kristenbb> daftykins: yes it's possible
[18:34] <daftykins> kristenbb: ok, new idea...
[18:34] <kristenbb> daftykins: i am not sure what i'm seeing in the bios honestly, it's not really my cup of tea
[18:34] <kn8il> vladhaund_, No just that what you describe makes no sense.
[18:35] <vladhaund_> I'm asking what app/program is the ubuntu using for a default clock in the status bar
[18:35] <daftykins> kristenbb: follow this carefully. disconnect the SATA data cable going to your SSD, then connect the one that's going into the other disk. try booting now
[18:35] <kn8il> vladhaund_, Yeah and wont answer questions so best of luck with that. ;)
[18:35] <vladhaund_> that if you click on it, you would get a calendar and a time settings which you could get to add another city to see other country's clock
[18:36] <vladhaund_> ok.
[18:36] <pavlos> vladhaund, /usr/lib/indicator-datetime/indicator-datetime-service
[18:36] <vladhaund_> thank you pavlos
[18:36] <vladhaund_> kn8il, you could just say you don't know
[18:38] <kristenbb> daftykins: it now says to select a proper boot device.
[18:38] <kristenbb> daftykins: does that mean my ssd is dead ?
[18:38] <daftykins> kristenbb: can you take pics of the screen at all?
[18:38] <daftykins> or is there some other way you can show the EFI
[18:39] <kristenbb> daftykins: it would be quite difficult to do that, but I think this EFI is fairly common
[18:40] <daftykins> kristenbb: can you find the pics online then? it should be pretty obvious if there's a page showing the connected SATA devices or not
[18:41] <Guest35663> allo
[18:41] <kristenbb> daftykins: http://event.asus.com/2011/mb/EFI_BIOS/
[18:41] <Guest35663> allo
[18:41] <Guest35663> yo
[18:41] <Guest35663> yohouuuuuuuuu
[18:42] <daftykins> kristenbb: if it's that one with the 7 segment display clock style top left, go into advanced mode and it should show the disks along the bottom row there
[18:42] <john_rambo> I am using Ubuntu and Manjaro as dual boot. Is there a way to share the Firefox profile ?
[18:43] <daftykins> john_rambo: one version could update without the other, or there could be incompatibilities. i'd say that's a bad idea
[18:43] <john_rambo> daftykins, Okay
[18:44] <kristenbb> daftykins: the advanced mode shows 6 tabs, main, ai tweaker, advanced, monitor, boot, tool
[18:44] <daftykins> kristenbb: see what disks are listed as boot devices on the 'boot' page
[18:44] <aryklein> why there are a lot of services that doen't have upstart jobs. For example postfix, postgrey, mariadb
[18:45] <kn8il> kristenbb, So you have no images/clones of the HD and partitions?
[18:45] <aryklein> they use system v scripts
[18:45] <kristenbb> kn8il: no
[18:46] <kn8il> kristenbb, Ah, bummer, if you did you would have been back in order and never had to come here.
[18:46] <kristenbb> kn8il: except that my ssd is dead
[18:46] <daftykins> kn8il: actually, having a backup doesn't mystically make a drive get detected again ;)
[18:46] <kristenbb> from what i can understand
[18:47] <daftykins> kristenbb: this is really not the easiest of situations for me to follow, can you link me to the exact model motherboard manual?
[18:47] <kn8il> kristenbb, If it really is dead, I doubt that, but if so you would get a new ssd and again fixed
[18:47] <kn8il> daftykins, True, but it will load a new one.
[18:47] <daftykins> kn8il: please stop talking now, you're not helping.
[18:47] <circ-user-sPFmu> hi all
[18:47] <circ-user-sPFmu> i have a question for you all
[18:48] <kn8il> daftykins, Dude You know me as another user and often ask for my help, cut the attitude. ;)
[18:48] <paulus68> I have this monitor S24D300 from samsung I have the hdmi and vga cables connected but the monitor is not reacting how do I solve this?
[18:48] <_john> Hello
[18:48] <daftykins> kn8il: who are you?
[18:49] <_john> I had a problem while updating to 'Trusty Tahr'
[18:49] <kristenbb> daftykins: In the boot tab, there's a boot option priorities, and if i click on it, 4 options appear: 'windows boot manager' (i used to have windows on these disks), the optical drive, 'ubuntu', and 'Disabled'. There's no longer the other disk, since you asked me to use its sata cable. as for 'ubuntu', i think it's just a setup save but that it's not recognizing anything.
[18:49] <daftykins> kristenbb: boot your live session and see whether you see any disks or partitions in there then
[18:50] <circ-user-sPFmu> i have a 12.04 lts live USB can i update my live disc though the live program or do i need to download and start from scratch
[18:50] <kn8il> daftykins, That is not the issue, I was just asking a couple of simple questions and had not intended to proceed further, and yuou are frustrated with the situation and so you project that on  to me, hehe recognize me now. ;)
[18:50] <daftykins> circ-user-sPFmu: installing from 12.04 is fine, just upgrade after.
[18:50] <_john> The updater said that the update was but there were errors.
[18:50] <daftykins> kn8il: no i'm frustrated with you attempting to assist when you don't know the situation
[18:51] <_john> And i cant install apps and stuff from the software center
[18:51] <daftykins> kn8il: nice school level psychology by the way.
[18:51] <kn8il> daftykins, ah but I do, and did not intend to go any further, images are the best fix in the end broken drives or not
[18:51] <kristenbb> daftykins: this is the motherboard, i havent found the manual yet - http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P9X79_DELUXE/
[18:51] <daftykins> i would appreciate you not talking to me any longer.
[18:52] <daftykins> kristenbb: ok, i'm switching room and PC, back shortly. i seem to remember assisting you with that board in the past...
[18:52] <kn8il> daftykins, you funny joe, I will put you where you belong peace man.
[18:52] <daftykins> kristenbb: in fact now i remember, it was the two SATA controller confusion thing
[18:53] <_john> Hello? I need support
[18:53] <daftykins> kn8il: i do not know you, nor have i ever sought your help.
[18:53] <daftykins> _john: ask away to the channel
[18:53] <_john> I did
[18:53] <circ-user-sPFmu> im sorry a better question would be can i do it though the live USB with out installing it on the computer
[18:53] <pavlos> _john, what is your setup, 14.04?
[18:53] <kristenbb> daftykins: yes that's right, but that was resolved and since then i never touched it again, and there it abruptly stopped working (during an update, but maybe it's just incidental)
[18:53] <_john> pavlos, yes it is
[18:54] <pavlos> _john, the updater gave you errors and the system is out of sync
[18:54] <fellayaboy> how do i totally nuke a usb flash drive..i keep getting cannot write read only file system i used dd, gparted, shred, wipe, yet i still get the same damn problem
[18:55] <pavlos> _john, from a terminal, can you do a sudo apt-get update ?
[18:55] <kn8il> circ-user-sPFmu, Are you trying to release upgrade a ISO on a usb?
[18:55] <_john> I'll try
[18:55] <ObrienDave> fellayaboy, delete the partition then remake it
[18:55] <fellayaboy> how
[18:55] <fellayaboy> ObrienDave: how
[18:55] <_john> It seems to be working
[18:55] <kn8il> fellayaboy, do a smartcheck on it, might be froed
[18:56] <_john> It worked
[18:56] <kn8il> friewd
[18:56] <pavlos> _john, good
[18:56] <ObrienDave> using gparted
[18:56] <fellayaboy> it doesnt let me..
[18:56] <fellayaboy> im using gparted the program thats installed on my system j...not the CD
[18:56] <_john> lets see if i can install software
[18:57] <Iridium> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7665125/
[18:57] <circ-user-sPFmu> kn8il i have a live usb that i use for my labtop and i want to know if i can update  the thumb drive with out having to use my laptop to do it
[18:57] <Iridium> daftykins: I lost my connection earlier..
[18:57] <_john> I got a package operation fail pavlos
[18:58] <pavlos> _john, are you installing from the software center or via a terminal?
[18:58] <Zenyhooubbit> hello! excuse me only a simple question: how can I enable backports on ubuntu 12.04? I need to install new programs
[18:58] <_john> Software center
[18:58] <daftykins> kristenbb: i take it you don't have another PC to test this drive in? have you booted the live session again yet?
[18:58] <theadmin> Zenyhooubbit: It's in Software Center's settings (Software Sources)
[18:59] <kn8il> circ-user-sPFmu, you need a platform to update it, but updating a live is a bad idea in any circumstance.
[18:59] <theadmin> Zenyhooubbit: But I recommend you just upgrade to 14.04, it's possible to upgrade directly
[18:59] <pavlos> _john, which package are you trying ot install?
[18:59] <daftykins> Iridium: yeah you see 'noexec' is in your final line there.
[18:59] <Iridium> daftykins: Do you remember my issue?
[18:59] <kristenbb> daftykins: yes the live session just doesn't show any drives in parted/gparted. i just have a laptop
[18:59] <circ-user-sPFmu> knail, thank you
[18:59] <Iridium> daftykins: Ok,
[18:59] <_john> FLC player. i keep getting this error http://pastebin.com/5Jd0KZGv
[18:59] <circ-user-sPFmu> kn8il, i well just have  to do a fresh install thank for all you help
[19:00] <Iridium> daftykins: I'm attempting obtain the next step..
[19:00] <_john> NO its VLC
[19:00] <_john> Not flc
[19:00] <daftykins> Iridium: are you familiar with running text editors at the command line?
[19:01] <Iridium> daftykins: sure..
[19:01] <pavlos> _john, can you try form a terminal ... sudo apt-get install vlc
[19:01] <_john> wait, it worked
[19:01] <_john> I got the error and after a while it showed up
[19:01] <daftykins> kristenbb: hmm, i'm wondering how to approach this next.
[19:02] <kristenbb> daftykins: :(
[19:02] <daftykins> kristenbb: do you still have contact with the friend that helped assemble the PC?
[19:02] <pavlos> _john, it takes some time to update all databases ... do another update so that your system is clean
[19:02] <NiteRain> question, trying to run openvpn client and it is having trouble starting up the tun device, what is the group I need to add to allow this to work.  Meanwhile, I can get it running if I run it as root, however I would rather not have to do this.
[19:02] <_john> pavlos: okay
[19:02] <kristenbb> daftykins: yeah more or less, but he wasn't much of an expert, just a friend. as you correctly remembered, he had done some things wrong too.
[19:02] <stevenpage129> quick question: does anybody know what would be the reccomeneded way to rebuild debsums signatures from files that exist on the system?
[19:02] <stevenpage129> or for a specific package rtaher
[19:03] <stevenpage129> i have made alot of changes to a specific package's files and this creates alot of noise within regard to debsums
[19:03] <daftykins> kristenbb: is it the 120GB wildfire?
[19:03] <kristenbb> 240,
[19:03] <paulus68> when connecting this monitor to my laptop it's working so why don't I have a signal when using desktop?
[19:04] <pavlos> _john, you can also do ... sudo apt-get autoremove to clean up
[19:04] <_john> pavlos, sure thing
[19:05] <sumanth> hai
[19:06] <Zenyhooubbit> how can I access to ubuntu software center settings?
[19:06] <daftykins> kristenbb: ok, i've looked up the firmware updates for the drive and see they fixed a lot of issues along the lines of detection and so on. if i were you i'd keep powering off fully and back on again until you get the live session seeing the drive. in the meantime, it'd be interesting to see your boot messages, if you could again run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "dmesg | pastebinit"
[19:07] <daftykins> Iridium: so in a terminal "sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.old" (creating a backup) then use your favourite text editor, i'll use nano as an example "sudo nano /etc/fstab" and remove 'noexec' from that /tmp entry
[19:07] <kristenbb> daftykins: i'm not sure what you mean, am I to try to keep powering off and on for weeks until it gets working again ? how can it go from one state to another ?
[19:08] <daftykins> kristenbb: no just a handful of times right now
[19:08] <kn8il> Zenyhooubbit, What is the end goal?
[19:08] <z1haze> hello, im a rookie linux server owner, can someone please help me out with checking if my java is up to date?
[19:08] <daftykins> kristenbb: because SSDs have funny bugs sometimes. i had a crucial m4 in my laptop which had a no-detection bug, it'd come back after a few power cycles.
[19:09] <kristenbb> daftykins: I see
[19:09] <daftykins> kristenbb: can you pastebin that log also
[19:09] <kristenbb> when you say full power off, what do you mean ? just powering it off, right ? or pulling the plug too ?
[19:09] <kristenbb> yeah i'll get to that
[19:09] <daftykins> you're welcome to experiment with how far you go on power cycling
[19:10] <_john> pavlos, every thing seems to work just fine now
[19:10] <kn8il> z1haze, You might as in #ubuntu-server might be a channel you should know of.
[19:10] <kristenbb> daftykins: ^
[19:10] <pavlos> _john, good ...
[19:10] <z1haze> um ok
[19:10] <z1haze> whats this channel for then
[19:10] <Zenyhooubbit> kn8il, I want to enable backports
[19:10] <_john> pavlos, thanks for the help!
[19:11] <pavlos> _john, np, enjoy
[19:11] <_john> Good bye
[19:11] <kn8il> Zenyhooubbit, edit-software source
[19:11] <kn8il> z1haze, For all things ubuntu, just trying to give you options is all. ;)
[19:11] <z1haze> so isnt my question encompassed in all things ubuntu
[19:12] <daftykins> !java | z1haze
[19:12] <daftykins> z1haze: have a read.
[19:12] <kn8il> z1haze, This was a courtesy call, you can do what you want. ;)
[19:12] <kn8il> never said this was the wrong place
[19:13] <z1haze> daftykins ive already looked at all of this. but the version that it says i have, i dont know how to see if i have a latest version or even what type? i dont know if i have openjdk or oracle
[19:14] <z1haze> it just says java version "1.7.0_60" / Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_60-b19) / Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 24.60-b09, mixed mode)
[19:14] <daftykins> z1haze: you'd know if you have oracle java because you would've had to install it.
[19:14] <sigi_> hey
[19:14] <z1haze> its been a long time though daftykins
[19:14] <daftykins> z1haze: dpkg -l | grep oracle
[19:14] <z1haze> my goal  ithink is ti update to java 8
[19:15] <daftykins> z1haze: also: dpkg -l | grep java
[19:15] <z1haze> daftykins: ii  oracle-java7-installer           7u60-0~webupd8~0                    Oracle
[19:15] <daftykins> so you're running oracle java 7 from the webupd8 PPA
[19:15] <sigi> i have a huge issue with my macmini3.1 and audio: i had proper analog audio over optical cabel now its gone and the only thing i can do is use digital spdif (which doesn't work properly) and build in speakers
[19:15] <z1haze> so what does that mean to me daftykins. can i update this to java 8?
[19:16] <z1haze> i just want the most optimized i can
[19:16] <z1haze> my server uses a lot of java
[19:16] <sigi> i tried literaly everything i could google like modprobing snd-hda-intel model=macmini3 etc. nothing works :(
[19:16] <daftykins> z1haze: lol, so you remove that one and install 8... :)
[19:16] <KGM70> optical cable doesn't carry analog signals sigi they were digital
[19:16] <Zenyhooubbit> kn8il: sorry, how to edit software source?
[19:17] <sigi> KGM70: yes but they can transport analog signal. they did before and they did it under windows
[19:17] <sigi> soundcard creates proper 5.1 sound, transports it digital/optical to my av receiver and voila good sound
[19:17] <z1haze> daftykins: should i not update to java 8?
[19:17] <kn8il> Zenyhooubbit, hit edit in the ubuntu software center then software sources, find the tab you need tick the backports on.
[19:18] <daftykins> z1haze: uninstall 7 and install 8 if you want to, i'm not saying either way, go fo rit
[19:18] <daftykins> z1haze: i don't understand why you're confused - are you not experienced with package management?
[19:19] <KGM70> sigi, they are converted from digital to analog at the input of your av receiver, just switch the receiver to coax input and the spdif should work
[19:19] <Iridium> daftykins: I'm constantly losing my wi-fi connection... I think that is a modem problem. I didn't see your last tip about my last issue.
[19:19] <kn8il> !backports | Zenyhooubbit info you should know
[19:19] <z1haze> no of course not daftykins: i wouldnt be here asking. im sorry if it sounds dumb but im not a linux user; i lease a dedicated server and it runs linux
[19:20] <delac_> any way to load .desktop files for Unity Dash without logging out?
[19:20] <sigi> KGM70: my receiver has auto detection. it is not that spdif doesn't work but it doesn't work properly. it is very quite and i cant hear voices (no center signal?)
[19:20] <z1haze> i was told to put linux on it because it is faster than windows
[19:20] <sigi> i tried to configure xbmc and vlc like stated at the internet for propper spdif but that didn't work
[19:21] <sigi> it worked with analog audio output before perfectly
[19:21] <kn8il> delac_, what is .desktop
[19:21] <daftykins> Iridium: so in a terminal "sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.old" (creating a backup) then use your favourite text editor, i'll use nano as an example "sudo nano /etc/fstab" and remove 'noexec' from that /tmp entry
[19:21] <Zenyhooubbit> ok thanks kn8il
[19:22] <kn8il> Zenyhooubbit, no problem, you can access software sources with the software center it controls apt-get as well
[19:22] <KGM70> sigi, open alsamixer and switch the spdif to pcm out
[19:22] <kn8il> without*
[19:23] <foofoobar> Hi. I want to run a command (sudo /opt/nginx/sbin/nginx) on boot, how can I do this ?
[19:23] <kn8il> delac_, A clearer description is needed I think.
[19:23] <emacer> I'm getting this really strange error from dpkg:         dpkg-deb: error: archive 'emac-toolchain-i586_5.0.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb' has premature member 'data.tar.bz2' before 'control.tar.gz', giving up
[19:23] <emacer> anyone know what causes that message?
[19:23] <daftykins> z1haze: if you're certain you need v8, "sudo apt-get remove oracle-java7-installer" to start with should run through taking it off
[19:23] <sigi> KGM70: how?
[19:24] <daftykins> z1haze: then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get install oracle-java8-installer"
[19:24] <KGM70> sigi, in there terminal stype alsamixer
[19:24] <KGM70> the
[19:24] <trezen> ab
[19:24] <z1haze> will that overwrite the old java?
[19:24] <z1haze> or will i have to type something to tell the server to use java 8 instead of java 7
[19:25] <bluezone> you can modify your .bashrc as you see fit z1haze
[19:25] <KGM70> sigi, then use the arrow keys to navigate and up down to set the pcm
[19:25] <z1haze> and im not CERTAIN i need it, im just confused why my java is using so much RAM, i only allocate like 6gb of RAM for my game server, then i look at the free -m and its using like 16gb
[19:26] <thebope> hey, curious how to check if my ip address is static
[19:26] <emacer> thebope, touch it, see if you get a shock...   ;)
[19:26] <Dave77> how do I unrar a file on ubuntu from command line if unrar doesn't support newest rar format?
[19:27] <sigi> KGM70: with up/down i can only change volume
[19:27] <thebope> lol emacer
[19:27] <thebope> ifconfig isn't doing it for me
[19:27] <thebope> not a netowrking guy
[19:27] <emacer> thebope, ps ax | grep [d]hcp
[19:27] <KGM70> sigi, the spdif boxes
[19:28] <thebope> thanks emacer
[19:28] <jdmf> I'm using debmirror to create a local mirror of the Ubuntu Archive. I have included 12.04 and 14.04, --no-source --i18n - but I'm still missing several sections in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/ this folder as i18n, installer-*, uefi, dist-upgrader-all - What am I missing??
[19:28] <thebope> I'm not sure what most of that means
[19:28] <thebope> Might just restart and see if it's the same ;-)
[19:28] <emacer> thebope, did it give you output?
[19:28] <thebope> yes
[19:28] <emacer> thebope, then it's not static
[19:28] <thebope> Ahh very good
[19:29] <delac_> kn8il: .desktop files are files that are the base for launchers in dash
[19:29] <thebope> okay, I've got a tute here to help me set it statically
[19:29] <thebope> thanks emacer
[19:29] <emacer> np
[19:30] <daftykins> z1haze: minecraft by any chance?
[19:30] <clevas> So if i have a legacy win8.1 install, dual boot should be a breeze right?
[19:30] <z1haze> it is
[19:30] <z1haze> is there a trick to fix this
[19:31] <daftykins> z1haze: no point changing java for that then, memory usage has to do with the system and applications. have you ever seen www.linuxatemyram.com ?
[19:31] <z1haze> its a 32gb RAM machine, so id like to divide the RAM usage amongst several servers
[19:31] <z1haze> yea i saw it
[19:31] <z1haze> it says it caches it or something
[19:32] <z1haze> but even looking at that; i only gave java 6gb to run, and its only got 17gb free of 32..
[19:32] <z1haze> and minecraft, teamspeak, is the only things i use this machine for
[19:32] <OerHeks> 3 users x 6 gb ...
[19:33] <sigi> KGM70: cant switch anything
[19:33] <paulus68> I have this monitor S24D300 from samsung I have the hdmi and vga cables connected but the monitor is not reacting how do I solve this?
[19:33] <daftykins> z1haze: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && free -m | pastebinit
[19:33] <sigi> and nothing changes; pulseaudio also doesn't show analog output
[19:33] <sigi> anymore
[19:33] <z1haze> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7665284/
[19:35] <daftykins> z1haze: nothing wrong then, just lots cached. i'm afraid your query is way beyond the purposes of this channel
[19:35] <z1haze> what did that pastebin tell u?
[19:35] <daftykins> z1haze: you need to learn about server administration, java memory management... etc etc
[19:35] <daftykins> that it's mostly cache
[19:36] <KGM70> sigi, pulseaudio should be set to digital/spdif output
[19:36] <z1haze> ok.. i dont see how telling java to use 6 gb, then somehow the machine is used 14
[19:36] <z1haze> and thats 'normal'
[19:37] <sigi> KGM70: i don't think so. i was able to choose under windows between analog output and digital (spdif) output. i was able to do so under ubuntu at the beginning as well
[19:37] <daftykins> z1haze: and this is why you're new at server admin :) so you can try #ubuntu-server but you're going to need to learn about things a lot
[19:38] <delac_> my logout time (from desktop to greeter) is several times longer than logging in. Good ideas what I should check?
[19:40] <KGM70> sigi, depends where the signal is going if you use a digital input on your seceiver then you need either the optical digital out or spdif digital coaxial output ...that's the way I have my system set up. Analog signals are carried by ordinary rca type cables to the line level inputs on your amp
[19:41] <sigi> KGM70: yes but i cant select anything else than digital spdif. ther is no way to disable spdif and tell him to use pcm
[19:41] <Dave77> how do I get ubuntu makers to ask people to compile binaries in ARM format for download?
[19:41] <sigi> what might have been 'analog output'
[19:41] <KGM70> that's all i have to say about it sigi I suggest you research the difference between analog and digital and what settings your soundcard requires for those signals
[19:42] <Dave77> I want to use something but compiling is too time consuming / complicated
[19:42] <KGM70> sigi, spdif is pcm/digital by default
[19:42] <Iridium> daftykins: I did that. Now, I guess i should remount, right?
[19:44] <daftykins> Iridium: correct, reboot would be easiest
[19:44] <herghost> I found that the software I wanted to run on ubuntu server (14.04) is only GUI for now.  Is best option to install GUI on server installation, or other?
[19:45] <jhutchins> herghost: What software?
[19:45] <herghost>  jhutchins vlcstreamer
[19:45] <sigi> KGM70: what? if i select spdif in vlc what this does it sends the audio data without change to the av which is generating the 5.1 audio. therefore pcm should be where the pc generates the 5.1 audio and the av only plays it
[19:45] <jhutchins> herghost: There are console based streaming severs.
[19:45] <Iridium> daftykins: Ok. I really appreciate your help. I'll come back to give you a feedback about how I proceed.
[19:46] <jhutchins> herghost: vlc is a player that streams.
[19:46] <herghost> jhutchins - can you recommend.  I am looking specifically for iPad / AppleTV compatibility
[19:46] <Dave77> which linux filesystem remembers date when file modified?
[19:46] <herghost> jhutchins - I can do this with just normal vlc via command CLI?
[19:46] <jack> Dave77, all?
[19:47] <sigi> mh i think i know what i need, i need an audio mixer which creates a proper dts signal
[19:49] <MarcN> Dave77, I think all filesystem types do unless you mount noatime
[19:51] <clevas> Ok here's my problem i think i figured out. My windows 8.1 is installed legacy and ubuntu is trying to install uefi. Thats why i cant get dual boot to work. Is there still a way to install a recent version of ubuntu in legacy?
[19:52] <e^> clevas: why do u think so?
[19:53] <clevas> Ok i know so
[19:53] <e^> clevas: if the bios is set to legacy i presume ubuntu would install in legacy mode automatically
[19:54] <clevas> I get grub error every time
[19:54] <clevas> on boot after install
[19:54] <Pici> clevas: are you using wubi?
[19:54] <e^> when you boot the live cd do you get a man-looking figure at the bottom ?
[19:55] <clevas> i get the man looking figure yes
[19:55] <jhutchins> clevas: Funny thing about error messages - what they actually say matters.
[19:55] <e^> ok then ubuntu is booting in legacy mode not uefi
[19:55] <clevas> Thats how i need it dont i?
[19:56] <clevas> Because my win8.1 is installed legacy
[19:56] <e^> yes
[19:56] <clevas> Pici wubi dont support win8
[19:56] <Pici> clevas: I know. thats why I'm asking.
[19:56] <clevas> Well why isnt it working then
[19:56] <clevas> lol
[19:56] <Pici> clevas: wubi will install in 8, it just won't work.  I  was trying to see if that was the case here.
[19:57] <clevas> It's on a different hard drive. That shouldnt make a difference rh
[19:57] <circ-user-T45sY> okay i have question for you all. is there a android emulator for ubuntu
[19:57] <clevas> Like im installing ubuntu on a different hard drive
[19:57] <MarcN> circ-user-T45sY, you can do android development on ubuntu and it includes an emulator
[19:58] <circ-user-T45sY> MarcN what is it called so i can do the apt-get for it
[19:58] <clevas> Im not using wubi
[19:58] <ObrienDave> circ-user-T45sY, eclipse
[19:58] <e^> clevas: as jhutchins said, what is the error message?
[19:59] <clevas> It brings me to grub rescue
[19:59] <clevas> on boot
[19:59] <circ-user-T45sY> ObrienDave, thanks
[19:59] <MarcN> circ-user-T45sY, You can get a tar.gz (or maybe deb) from android.com.
[20:00] <MarcN> circ-user-T45sY, http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
[20:00] <ObrienDave> circ-user-T45sY, http://developer.android.com/design/index.html
[20:00] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AndroidSDK
[20:00] <kn8il> !bootinfo | clevas
[20:00] <circ-user-T45sY> thanks again im trying to play clash of clan on my PC
[20:00] <clevas> bit it also said this for wubi
[20:01] <clevas> If you upgraded to Windows 8 and are using BIOS firmware, Wubi does work, but do not enable hybrid-sleep on Windows 8.
[20:01] <clevas> So it should work in my case
[20:01] <MarcN> circ-user-T45sY, not sure how performing the android SDK emulator it, but go for it.
[20:01] <e^> clevas: are you using 64bit ?
[20:01] <circ-user-T45sY> okay thanks again
[20:02] <kn8il> clevas, run the bootinfo so we at the least have some real info to work with.
[20:02] <ObrienDave> wubi need to die a slow, painful death
[20:03] <Munster> ObrienDave, a quick merciful death would be best :)
[20:03] <clevas> e^ x64 yes
[20:03] <ObrienDave> no, wubi needs to suffer
[20:04] <e^> clevas: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[20:04] <e^> as kn8il said.
[20:06] <kn8il> ObrienDave, One has to be sentient to suffer. ;)
[20:06] <ObrienDave> lol
[20:06] <kn8il> joke for the moment is all
[20:07] <jack> homo sapiens sapiens....take consciousness as given
[20:09] <lifeforms> with the ubuntu server install iso, is it possible to drop to a shell after doing the install, to make some final modifications?
[20:09] <ObrienDave> wubi has no conscience ;
[20:09] <ObrienDave> ;P
[20:10] <daftykins> lifeforms: like what
[20:11] <lifeforms> daftykins: I want to rsync over the complete / from an old box that I want to clone (I'm afraid doing this on a running system won't be a good idea)
[20:11] <lifeforms> so I'm happy with it just setting up networking and partitioning, but starting from a clean install will shorten my rsync time so that's fine too
[20:11] <daftykins> lifeforms: ah, hmm i'm not sure if the server install environment offers a TTY or not
[20:12] <jack> lifeforms, do you know FSOL?
[20:12] <lifeforms> daftykins: OK, well I'll try :) otherwise I'll see what happens if I rsync over the live system, it's all in a VM anyway
[20:12] <lifeforms> jack: yeah, that's where I got the name from actually!
[20:12] <jack> cool
[20:13] <jack> i love that album :)
[20:13] <daftykins> future sound of london? D:
[20:13] <lifeforms> it is :)
[20:13] <kn8il> jack, suffering does not require a consciousness, just a neural system at the least.
[20:13] <lifeforms> I mean, me too
[20:14] <jack> kn8il, correct
[20:14] <delac_> my logout time (from desktop to greeter) is several times longer than logging in. Good ideas what I should check?
[20:15] <kn8il> delac_, Do you have any time differential?
[20:15] <kn8il> an accurate one
[20:15] <delac_> kn8il: the logout is about minute and half
[20:16] <jack> lifeforms, i still remember that one track....drowning something
[20:16] <jack> unforgettable :)
[20:16] <kn8il> delac_, Logut or a shutdown/reboot?
[20:16] <delac_> kn8il: logout to greeter
[20:17] <lifeforms> daftykins: apparently you can get a busybox shell afterwards :) https://i.imgur.com/EFkCatL.png
[20:19] <professerslime> what would be the advantages of a bonded set of NIC verses bridged
[20:19] <kn8il> delac_, Might be able to run a debugg, I'm assuming you're running trusty  http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man8/autolog.8.html
[20:20] <jack> more speed?
[20:20] <delac_> kn8il: yes, i am
[20:20] <jack> @ professerslime
[20:20] <kn8il> delac_, Although that is a autolog, tough question. ;)
[20:20] <professerslime> yes
[20:22] <professerslime> ok so if i bridged the NIC cards would i be able to dedicate one to a vpn and how would i do so
[20:23] <daftykins> professerslime: a VPN wouldn't benefit from bonded NICs
[20:23] <daftykins> you'd only bond interfaces to increase local LAN throughput
[20:24] <trap0> hi everyone! does anybody know how can I change the font color of the text in the top menu bar (where the clock and icons are). I've found where to change the transparency but not the font color. thanks!
[20:25] <professerslime> Sorry i lost the connection has anyone answered my question
 professerslime: a VPN wouldn't benefit from bonded NICs
 you'd only bond interfaces to increase local LAN throughput
[20:28] <professerslime> Right sorry i meant bridged
[20:29] <jdmf> I'm using debmirror to create a local mirror of the Ubuntu Archive. I have included 12.04 and 14.04, --no-source --i18n - but I'm still missing several sections in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/ this folder as i18n, installer-*, uefi, dist-upgrader-all - What am I missing??
[20:30] <daftykins> professerslime: i think you'd be better off in #networking and/or #ubuntu-server
[20:30] <perlmachine> my subshell is not holding alias, each time i exit from subshell, it doesn't stay there
[20:31] <professerslime> Hank you
[20:32] <trism> trap0: that would be set in the theme, in the default Ambiance theme in /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/gtk-3.0/apps/unity.css the color attribute of UnityPanelWidget, .unity-panel can change it
[20:32] <Quanqued> Hi - is there anyone that can point me in the right direction to disable the automatic provisioning of ephemeral disks in cloud-init?
[20:33] <jhutchins> How do I get the insatller to shrink an NTFS partition?
[20:33] <demoz> hello,i am stuck and do not know how to install ubuntu 13 on old pentium.. is there a way to start installation from CLI ?
[20:34] <histo> professerslime: https://wiki.debian.org/BridgeNetworkConnections
[20:34] <histo> demoz: Do you have a fast network connection?
[20:35] <demoz> histo no :(
[20:35] <demoz> 160 kbps
[20:35] <histo> demoz: any reason you are trying to use 13?
[20:35] <demoz> the thing is i can't select to boot from dvd drive in bios
[20:35] <demoz> because of support of packages that i need :(
[20:35] <trap0> trism: thanks! I'll try to modify it :)
[20:36] <demoz> to be honest it is 10:35 pm and i m out of empty cd's :(
[20:36] <jhutchins> Crud, no, it's can't resize Windows 7.
[20:36] <histo> demoz: what's wrong with the GUI installer?
[20:36] <demoz> i had 13.04 x32 on cd
[20:36] <demoz> histo this pentium can't run it well,it stucks
[20:36] <histo> jhutchins: it should be able to resize if the windows 7 side was shut down properly
[20:37] <histo> demoz: from the install menu just choose install only
[20:37] <heph_rg|web> could someone look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/7665583/
[20:37] <demoz> histo i was not able to boot from cd/dvd as there is no option in BIOS,so i booted to XP and installed boot loader or however is the name,and when i select Ubuntu from dropdown it goes to demo & install
[20:37] <heph_rg|web> i cant use apt-get at all
[20:38] <histo> demoz: you may want to look at xubuntu, or lubuntu they are both lighter weight. Or if you use the mini iso or server cd you can get the text based installer.
[20:38] <demoz> histo shouldn't regular desktop 13.04 version have CLI installer?
[20:38] <histo> demoz: press escape when the first purple screen comes up.
[20:39] <heph_rg|web> if i try upgrade again, it seems like everything is ok, and then i get stuck in an error loop
[20:39] <demoz> histo ok thank you,i ll do it asap :)
[20:39] <histo> demoz: So you want a command line only install like 'no desktop'   or you want a text based installer?
[20:40] <demoz> no desktop
[20:40] <demoz> ok so i have 5 modes,normal safe graphic mode,acpi workarounds,verbose mode,demo mode
[20:40] <histo> !info libc6 | heph_rg|web
[20:40] <histo> heph_rg|web: install that package and libudev1
[20:41] <demoz> histo i am not sure which mode should i choose :o
[20:42] <histo> demoz: you cannot do a command line only install with the desktop iso anymore.
[20:42] <clevas> If i install 12.04 can i upgrade to 14.04 in the os itself
[20:42] <heph_rg|web> histo i just get that error again
[20:43] <histo> clevas: yes
[20:43] <heph_rg|web> Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg exited unexpectadly
[20:43] <genii> clevas: Not until July, but yes
[20:43] <histo> clevas: when 14.04.1
[20:43] <histo> heph_rg|web: what were you doing when all this started?
[20:43] <genii> !ltsupgrade | histo
[20:43] <demoz> histo oh ok.. thank you very much.. i guess i ll have to wait till tomorrow before i get emtpy CD and until i download ~600mb on 150kbps  :D
[20:43] <histo> genii: u;n aware
[20:43] <genii> Sorry, that was for clevas
[20:43] <histo> genii: i'm aware
[20:43] <clevas> ok thanks
[20:44] <heph_rg|web> nothing, i logged into my server, and tried to install proftpd
[20:44] <histo> demoz: do you have a thumb drive?
[20:44] <histo> demoz: download the mini.iso and install only the packages you need.
[20:44] <demoz> histo yes,and i tried to boot from thumb drive already.. stupid old computer does not see it :(
[20:48] <perlmachine> There is a wyt to discover the dir of the running bash?
[20:48] <perlmachine> *way
[20:49] <asdofindia> perlmachine, 'pwd'?
[20:49] <skinux> I don't suppose there is anywhere to find a list of applications/libraries people want that don't exist yet?
[20:49] <bekks> skinux: thats correct :)
[20:49] <e^> asdofindia: i think he means where the bin file is
[20:49] <perlmachine> asdofindia: the config file
[20:50] <trap0> trism: it worked! thanks a lot!
[20:50] <trism> trap0: excellent
[20:50] <skinux> WordPress has WordPress Ideas, so I figured maybe there would be something similar for Ubuntu.
[20:51] <jack> irc is great
[20:52] <jack> but not really an ultima ratio
[20:53] <jhutchins> skinux: You can search bugzilla for Feature Requests.
[20:53] <jack> skinux, you can meet wise guys here....and dumbasses
[20:54] <heph_rg|web> i tried installing each of those that there were "Errors were encountered while processing"
[20:54] <heph_rg|web> any time i try to install something i get Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg exited unexpectedly
[20:55] <bekks> heph_rg|web: you get much more output. can you please put it into a pastebin?
[20:56] <heph_rg|web> sure thing bekks
[20:57] <skinux> Is searching BugZilla for feature requests really a good idea??
[20:57] <jhutchins> skinux: It's the only pool of that kind of information I'm aware of.
[20:57] <bekks> skinux: There is no other chance :) And bugzilla is the central point for bugs, requests, etc.
[20:57] <jhutchins> skinux: Are you looking for projects to contribute to or what?
[20:58] <heph_rg|web> bekks http://paste.ubuntu.com/7665673/
[20:59] <bekks> heph_rg|web: What did you do so libc6 is not installed? Tell us the full story please.
[21:00] <heph_rg|web> well, i'm using an ubuntu 12 install  from digitalocean
[21:00] <heph_rg|web> the ruby on rails image
[21:00] <demoz> histo just a little update ,i tried ESC and booted to safe graphic mode.. it is working ! :D
[21:01] <jhutchins> Is there a version of the installer that doesn't require a mouse?
[21:01] <bekks> heph_rg|web: And...?
[21:01] <heph_rg|web> the only thing i've done since getting it months ago is setting up cron
[21:01] <heph_rg|web> to call `heroku run rake mytask` every day
[21:01] <histo> demoz: yeah but you can do a command line install
[21:02] <dalit> jhutchins : you may go for ubuntu server , may be
[21:02] <demoz> histo i think this is good workaround,i ll just boot to the "3" on startup and gui will be gone..so i ll get server with little bit more packets than i need,so i ll remove them manually :)
[21:02] <OerHeks> jhutchins, <tab>  and < space> does the trick
[21:02] <heph_rg|web> maybe it's my tmux sessions, let me close all of those and try again
[21:02] <histo> heph_rg|web: do you have a ppa installed?
[21:02] <demoz> histo thank you once more :)
[21:03] <heph_rg|web> i don't know what that is so i assume no
[21:03] <bekks> heph_rg|web: Well, that does not explain why libc6 is missing. So what did you do?
[21:04] <heph_rg|web> i just killed my tmux sessions, and it seems to be installing now without the interruption from dpkg
[21:04] <alexandur> > I'm running my website off of a server that I own myself, so I have access to all of the settings. However, it is currently set up to not allow outbound connections. How do I change this setting?
[21:04] <bekks> heph_rg|web: thats highly unlikely, when libc6 is missing.
[21:04] <demoz> alexandur iptables/firewall?
[21:05] <heph_rg|web> maybe it was a memory thing? this droplet only has 512 mb memory
[21:05] <demoz> or check your apache config
[21:05] <histo> bekks: unless he was mid upgrade in one of his sessions
[21:05] <alexandur> demoz isn't the firewall off by default? i never turned it on
[21:05] <heph_rg|web> yeah seems to be working now
[21:06] <demoz> alexandur well yea,it should be off by default.. what about your router/network settings ? do you have to portforward ? maybe your isp isn't allowing outgoing connection on port 80..
[21:06] <matkal> Nickserv identify
[21:06] <pangaea_> ok so my nvidia x settings shows nothing ??? any ideas??
[21:06] <matkal> Nickserv identify matkal123
[21:07] <alexandur> it's all on a local network for the company I work for. Ports shouldn't have to be forwareded, but maybe it's in the apache/xampp settings? demoz
[21:07] <demoz> matkal you forgot "/" without quotes :p
[21:07] <alexandur> I'm not entirely sure how to access an outbound connection setting via CLI for apache though
[21:07] <alexandur> demoz
[21:08] <herghost> Please anyone recommend a CLI media streaming server which will output to iOS devices?
[21:08] <pangaea_> i installed network settings
[21:08] <demoz> alexandur try "telnet 162.248.4.31 80"
[21:08] <jhutchins> Wow, that was pretty fast.
[21:09] <jhutchins> Less than ten minutes to install kubuntu
[21:09] <demoz> alexandur that is one of my servers,it will allow you to telnet on port 80,actually blank screen should appear
[21:09] <jack> herghost, i'd use vlc
[21:09] <alexandur> demoz isn't telnetting to your server kinda...insecure
[21:10] <pangaea_> network tools 3.8.1 worked for me
[21:10] <demoz> alexandur if it doesn't success(error show up) you need to check with network administrators to grant you permissions
[21:10] <herghost> jack: ty
[21:10] <demoz> alexandur i see no reason to be insecure.. feel free to telnet to any web server on port 80 ..
[21:10] <histo> bekks: and finished the upgrade but didn't tell us
[21:11] <pangaea_> any idea why my nvidia x setings is blank???
[21:12] <z1haze> i messed up created a username, it idndt ask for any of the personal information or anything..
[21:13] <z1haze> when i tried to delete it, it says the user is currently logged in
[21:13] <demoz> alexandur what error do you get when you access your webserver from outside?
[21:14] <alexandur> demoz it allows me to access it, but I have a few web apps on it that require it to get photos from flickr, and it cannot make outbound connections of its own, so it says "error: could not connect to flickr"
[21:14] <alexandur> demoz it also can't connect to the internet to patch itself
[21:14] <alexandur> demoz so, outbound connections in general
[21:15] <demoz> alexandur what i would do is check the permission on scripts in your /var/www/ .. without right permissions (chown) this may be the problem..
[21:15] <alexandur> demoz ok thanks ill check that now
[21:16] <jordanjordan123> ?
[21:17] <demoz> alexandur take any website you trust,do host -a www.example.com ,see IP of it and telnet .. you ll know for sure is it apache or network overall.. do you have ASA or some network firewall ?
[21:17] <jhutchins> What manages start-up services (sshd) now?
[21:18] <alexandur> demoz i believe iptables is the firewall, ill check the settings of that now
[21:18] <alexandur> demoz i'm ftp'd into my server in var/www right now
[21:19] <jhutchins> !sshd
[21:19] <pangaea_> video cards?
[21:19] <demoz> alexandur ssh to your server,go to /var/www and type "ll" you ll see files/script owner
[21:19] <alexandur> demoz I can't even ping google
[21:19] <demoz> also alexandur i was asking about network firewalls,not OS(operating system) firewall
[21:19] <alexandur> demoz, oh, I don't think it's a network firewall
[21:20] <demoz> alexandur it smells like it is network firewall.. if you haven't installed firewall,there should be no restrictions..
[21:21] <pangaea_> ok got it no holstein....
[21:21] <alexandur> demoz iptables is on...hm..
[21:21] <alexandur> demoz i have to go, thanks for your help
[21:21] <alexandur> i'll sort this out tomorrow
[21:21] <jhutchins> exit
[21:21] <demoz> alexandur then just add firewall rules..
[21:21] <jhutchins> too many keyboards!
[21:22] <jack> how old is iptables now? i remember ipchains...
[21:23] <jhutchins> 2.6 kernel I think.  Maybe 2.4.
[21:23] <sebbasttian> hello everyone... I need a little bit of help with Ubuntu Trusty and AppArmor
[21:26] <jack> jhutchins, ok i see
[21:29] <jhutchins> jack: chains was either 2.4 or 2.2.
[21:29] <happyfr0gg> Somebody please help me. I need to give sudo root privilages but my shell is asking for the lightdm password. I don't know the password and have tried every combination from recent memory and no luick.
[21:30] <jhutchins> happyfr0gg: sudo wants your user password.
[21:30]  * genii ponders "give sudo root priveleges"
[21:30] <Ben64> happyfr0gg: you seem to be confused. sudo is how you obtain root privileges. lightdm doesn't have a password
[21:32] <happyfr0gg> jhutchins - the same password I use to login? I have tried that and nothing.
[21:33] <happyfr0gg> Ben64 - I type sudo -i into my terminal and it asks for the password. I type (correctly) my user password, it says incorrect so I press Enter and it still says incorrect.
[21:33] <happyfr0gg> Ben64 - * lightdm password.
[21:35] <histo> happyfr0gg: did you install with a different username?
[21:35] <Ben64> happyfr0gg: well the password for sudo is your user's password
[21:37] <happyfr0gg> Ben64 - No. To remove the white dots on my Ubuntu login screen I followed the directions as outlined at http://www.noobslab.com/2012/05/remove-white-dots-from-login-screen-of.html
[21:41] <happyfr0gg> Ben64 - when I executed the first command, it added 'localuser:lightdm' to the ACL.
[21:41] <jhutchins> happyfr0gg: What about sudo ifconfig?
[21:41] <jhutchins> sudo requires the password of the user running sudo.
[21:42] <happyfr0gg> Anything that requires sudo asks for the lightdm password for the GODFORSAKEN life of me, I do not know.
[21:42] <jhutchins> happyfr0gg: What command changed the ACL?  How are you seeing the ACL?
[21:43] <jhutchins> happyfr0gg: Well, that's because there is no "lightdm password".
[21:43] <happyfr0gg> jhutchins - To remove the white dots on my Ubuntu login screen I followed the directions as outlined at http://www.noobslab.com/2012/05/remove-white-dots-from-login-screen-of.html
[21:45] <happyfr0gg> jhutchins - I don't understand. Why is it when I run sudo it asks for the lightdm password but when I press Enter it says incorrect???
[21:45] <jhutchins> happyfr0gg: Messing with default system settings before you know what you're doing is dangerous.  You should know WHY you are using a command, and what that command actually does, before you run somethng you get off the internet or irc.
[21:46] <jhutchins> happyfr0gg: You may still be logged in as lightdm - if so, it should say lightdm in the prompt.  Type exit<enter> until it shows your normal username.
[21:47] <jhutchins> happyfr0gg: exit closes the current bash shell and logs you out.
[21:47] <Ben64> happyfr0gg: what are "white dots"
[21:48] <jhutchins> happyfr0gg: when you did sudo su lightdm -s /bin/bash, you launched a new shell as user lightdm.  That user doesn't have a password.
[21:48] <jhutchins> Ben64: I think he means the dots that show up when you type your password at login.
[21:48] <aluchko> so fun times. I had a system duel booting fedora and ubuntu, one volume group with a logical volume for fedora, ubuntu, and home. and a 210mb boot partition controlled by ubuntu
[21:48] <aluchko> I did a upgrade-manager from 12.10 to 14.04 and grub is now kaput, and I'm running off a live ubuntu cd trying to get grub re-installed
[21:48] <jhutchins> happyfr0gg: Still there?
[21:48] <Ben64> jhutchins: oh, well thats a silly reason to do some sketchy sudo stuff
[21:49] <jhutchins> Ben64: Like I said, running commands when there's no explanation of what they're doing is not a good idea.
[21:49] <aluchko> I can't run update-grub from the chrooted environment because it's complaining about missing things from dev
[21:49] <Ben64> jhutchins: very true
[21:49] <happyfr0gg> jhutchins - when I typed exit and reopened the terminal my normal username displayed in the prompt.
[21:49] <jhutchins> aluchko: So mount -bind /dev /chroot/dev
[21:49] <jhutchins> happyfr0gg: Yay!
[21:50] <jhutchins> happyfr0gg: Now try sudo ifconfig - it should ask for your password and display the network configuration.
[21:50] <Ben64> aluchko: how did you upgrade from 12.10 to 14.04?
[21:50] <aluchko> Ben64, update-manger (whatever the name of the apt-like thing is)
[21:51] <Ben64> aluchko: that does not go from 12.10 to 14.04
[21:51] <bitvilag> Hey everyone
[21:51] <jhutchins> aluchko: You may also want to mount /proc and /sys
[21:51] <bitvilag> I need fast and serious help with my ubuntu
[21:51] <bitvilag> it wont boot and services are down
[21:51] <bitvilag> :S
[21:51] <happyfr0gg> jhutchins - wait, I see lightdm AT THE BEGINNING of the prompt. This TOTALLY missed my eyes.
[21:51] <aluchko> Ben64, apparently not :(
[21:51] <jhutchins> bitvilag: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[21:52] <Ben64> aluchko: 12.10 was a normal release, it would upgrade to 13.04 only
[21:52] <bitvilag> Well at first it was giving me out of memory error
[21:52] <bitvilag> so I did a sync
[21:52] <bitvilag> and rebooted
[21:52] <bitvilag> then nothing
[21:52] <bitvilag> it wont boot
[21:52] <bitvilag> debugging it reaches the mounting process and thats where it hangs
[21:52] <bitvilag> no idea why
[21:52] <bitvilag> I started live cd fs is fine
[21:52] <aluchko> well maybe it was 12.04, I was on LTS and needed a newer lyx
[21:52] <jhutchins> happyfr0gg: The prompt should be <user>@<hostname>:<path>
[21:52] <bitvilag> fsck ok
[21:53] <riply> hi guys, it looks like I have run out of room on one of my drives - getting this error when trying to install anything: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-3.5.0-45-generic_3.5.0-45.68~precise1_amd64.deb
[21:53] <riply> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[21:53] <riply> root@tealady:/home/entryready/public_html#
[21:53] <riply>  After some googling I believe I am meant to free up space by removing old kernels, but am scare shitless that I'm going to break the server. Would one of you be able to walk me through doing it safely?
[21:53] <jhutchins> bitvilag: Nothing on fsck of the original drive?
[21:53] <bitvilag> nothing it runned for 1 second on the live cd and then done
[21:54] <histo> bitvilag: what were you doing prior to it dying?
[21:54] <bitvilag> I know it was the right one because it asked be umountet and then
[21:54] <Ben64> riply: first off, watch the language in this channel. secondly, pastebin the output of "df -h"
[21:54] <bitvilag> webserver killing the machine
[21:54] <jhutchins> riply: The package tools won't remove the running kernel.
[21:54] <bitvilag> probably lot of io
[21:54] <riply> sorry Ben64!
[21:54] <bitvilag> mysql also
[21:54] <vicz> Hey guys, hoping anyone is good with pulseaudio in here.
[21:55] <histo> riply: df -h
[21:55] <jhutchins> bitvilag: Will it boot in recovery mode?
[21:55] <bitvilag> it kills me
[21:55] <bitvilag> nope
[21:55] <happyfr0gg> jhutchins - I followed your advice. It worked as you said. I will now see if I can run sudo as root. It should not ask for the lightdm password which as I know now it does not.
[21:55] <riply> http://pastebin.com/kAKpdsDj
[21:55] <riply> /dev/sda1                      228M  224M     0 100% /boot
[21:55] <riply>  << not ideal :/
[21:55] <jhutchins> happyfr0gg: Great!
[21:56] <bitvilag> As it boots in revovery I see some errors for a second maybe ...perhaps fs error but hard to see it too fast
[21:56] <Ben64> happyfr0gg: you run sudo as your user, do not run it as root
[21:56] <histo> bitvilag: at the grub screen remove quite from the kernel flags and see what is going on.
[21:56] <jhutchins> happyfr0gg: Like I said, there IS no lightdm password.
[21:56] <bitvilag> okay
[21:56] <jhutchins> Ben64: He's trying sudo -i
[21:56] <vicz> I have an ubuntu server install which I'm using as a desktop computer temporarily. I installed i3 and set that up to work fine, but I'm not getting any sound, even after installing pulseaudio. What do I need to do to use pulseaudio successfully on Ubuntu Server as a normal user?
[21:56] <Ben64> jhutchins: ok? still shouldn't run it as root
[21:56] <histo> riply: yeah remove old kernels
[21:56] <jhutchins> Ben64: Yeah, his terminology is a bit off.
[21:56] <riply> histo, okay cool so my google wasn't totally off... now, let me see if I can find a tut to do it safely
[21:56] <histo> happyfr0gg: sorry I left did you install with a different user?
[21:57] <jhutchins> Ben64: THere are reasons to use it as root, but special case.
[21:57] <Ben64> riply: type "uname -r" and remove any kernels that are lower than that
[21:57] <histo> riply: dpkg -l | grep linux-image   you will get a list of them all.  and you can remove the old ones
[21:57] <happyfr0gg> jhutchins - running sudop as root as a test (troubleshooting).
[21:57] <happyfr0gg> * sudo
[21:57] <pavlos> riply, http://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2011/01/08/ubuntu-cleanup-how-to-remove-all-unused-linux-kernel-headers-images-and-modules/
[21:57] <histo> riply: https://duckduckgo.com/l/?kh=-1&uddg=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.ubuntu.com%2FKernelTeam%2Fremoving-old-kernels
[21:58] <riply> thank you so much guys!
[21:58] <aluchko> jhutchins, the update-grub ran cleanly after mounting dev, proc, and sys, time to reboot and see what happens
[21:58] <riply> there's a whole list of them xD
[21:58] <jhutchins> AlexM850: Good luck!
[21:58] <riply> this' such an awesome community!
[21:58] <riply> sorry again Ben :)
[21:58] <Ben64> riply: oh its not a big deal, just channel rules :)
[21:58] <bitvilag> all I see is recovery rquired on readonly file....(VM) so console does not show more. write access will be handled during reco... recovery complete... remounted errors=remount-rw.... but WHY?
[21:59] <jhutchins> bitvilag: file or filesystem?
[21:59] <bitvilag> it seems there is an S after file but its hard to check
[21:59] <bitvilag> I show you
[21:59] <jhutchins> bitvilag: This is why we do backups.
[22:00] <rperigo> Hey all. I've got a WINE/Audio problem. Namely, my USB headset works fine in native apps, but sounds awful in WINE. I'm suspecting it's a sample rate issue, but I'm not sure where to start. Any takers?
[22:00] <histo> jhutchins: it'd be interested to hear one of those reasons?
[22:01] <bitvilag> http://imgur.com/I21fqBf
[22:01] <rperigo> I've googled a bit, but all the fixes I found were from ancient releases.
[22:01] <histo> happyfr0gg: what is the output of groups   as your user?
[22:02] <bitvilag> I have 1 day old but its a bit messy I started to use duplicity with gpg key and passphrase so putting that back is not easy
[22:02] <jhutchins> bitvilag: WHen you hit out-of-memory things can sometimes write to the wrong parts of the system, but it's more likely that there were files open with write permissions when the system crashed, causing them to become corrupt.
[22:03] <histo> bitvilag: no error there
[22:03] <bitvilag> thats just grate
[22:03] <bitvilag> so then what?
[22:03] <bitvilag> great
[22:03] <histo> bitvilag: this is a vm?
[22:03] <bitvilag> yyep
[22:03] <histo> bitvilag: how long have you let it sit there?
[22:04] <jhutchins> bitvilag: That pastebin shows where it stops?
[22:04] <bitvilag> i booted up the test system but thats 3 months old so I have to put it back before clients notice it
[22:04] <bitvilag> 30 min
[22:04] <bitvilag> 20min
[22:04] <bitvilag> maybe
[22:04] <histo> bitvilag: put what back?
[22:04] <bitvilag> services are running from the test server
[22:05] <bitvilag> so I have to put the prod back online
[22:05] <histo> bitvilag: okay copy the files out of your failed vm to the test server then
[22:05] <bitvilag> only one small issue
[22:06] <histo> ?
[22:06] <aluchko> no luck :( same thing, grub error: file not found
[22:06] <bitvilag> the test server is not the same version.... at least I cannot be for sure
[22:06] <bitvilag> it should be
[22:06] <histo> bitvilag: well I would create another server and migrate there data
[22:06] <histo> bitvilag: rather than waste all this time
[22:06] <riply> hmmm, I am having a little issue. These are my kernels: http://pastebin.com/QyQ70pDw but when I try root@tealady:~# apt-get remove linux-image-3.5.0-34-generic for example, I get this error (which is the same error I am getting when trying to install something... http://pastebin.com/7HM7rseW
[22:07] <bitvilag> so its done isnt it?
[22:07] <bitvilag> i mean the vm is piece of shit
[22:07] <histo> !language | bitvilag
[22:07] <bitvilag> sorry
[22:07] <energizer> Hi I'm installing 14.04, and I'm having a grub error. I found a launchpad bug, but I'm not sure how to implement their solution. Can I get some help?
[22:07] <energizer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1289977
[22:08] <bitvilag> any other suggestion?
[22:08] <histo> bitvilag: if it were me i'd start pulling their data out to be on the safe side. Get a new vm fired up with their data. Then maybe go back and screw with the old one to figure out why.
[22:08] <histo> bitvilag: don't you have backups of their data?
[22:08] <bitvilag> I did but its from last night
[22:09] <bitvilag> and I havent created the proper way of restoreing
[22:09] <bitvilag> I mean it uses a gpg key that I am not swhere its stored
[22:09] <bitvilag> I should have copied it
[22:09] <bitvilag> but ...
[22:09] <barlie> riply, You need to run the -f command in your second pastebin you have broken packages.
[22:09] <riply> barlie, I realise, but I can not install them as I have run out of space :(
[22:10] <bitvilag> how could this happen
[22:10] <qwingo> Hello, can i reset all the unity settings somehow? because when I start it I just get the wallpaper and the icons, no bar at the top etc.
[22:11] <histo> bitvilag: so you don';t have backups. Well boot an iso in the vm and start copying stuff out of the filesystem if you can
[22:11] <barlie> riply, You can boot with a live and remove the kernels in boot as a last resort, is this a boot partition that is full or root or are you running a single partition for ubuntu?
[22:11] <riply> barlie, that would be ideal, but this' a VM. So no chance. It's boot
[22:12] <histo> bitvilag: your first priority right now should be the data. Fixing the vm can come later.
[22:12] <barlie> riply, Where is the VM online or in your computer?
[22:12] <nicksloan> I've encountered this issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mountall/+bug/530179 even though it has been closed for years. The trusty64 image from http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/vagrant/ still uses the old init.d script, as opposed to the UpStart job that fixed that issue.
[22:12] <riply> barlie, online I am afraid
[22:12] <rperigo> qwingo, there used to be a PPA that housed a unity-reset script. I think WebUpd8 had a link to it at one point.
[22:13] <barlie> riply, Ah, well good luck. ;)
[22:13] <Ben64> riply: try dpkg --remove <package>
[22:13] <nicksloan> I'm wondering what the best route is to take to get that addressed.
[22:13] <rperigo> qwingo: here it is http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[22:13] <bluezone> do people ever use BOTH password and public-key file authentication when connecting to a server with openssh?
[22:13] <subz3r0> allow both is not a good idea
[22:14] <subz3r0> allowing
[22:14] <bluezone> but when they are both allowed, you can still connect with one or the other right?
[22:14] <bluezone> (and not both)
[22:14] <Ben64> bluezone: correct
[22:14] <subz3r0> bruteforce attacks will be still possible
[22:14] <subz3r0> yes
[22:14] <riply> Ben64, thanks will try that now quickly as apt-get purge is failing
[22:14] <bluezone> ok
[22:14] <qwingo> rperigo: Can I run it from a different DE? right now I'm using xfce
[22:14] <subz3r0> also i would recommend using fail2ban
[22:15] <subz3r0> and ofc not a standard port :)
[22:15] <dev-rke> hello :-)
[22:17] <dev-rke> i am not sure where to ask, so i would like to ask my question here about my wireless problems
[22:17] <OerHeks> dev-rke, you are in the right place, just ask
[22:17] <dev-rke> ty
[22:18] <dev-rke> currently 14.04 is installed, after the update my wireless network produces lags up to 2000ms
[22:18] <riply> Ben64, can you remove a kernel like this? Or are you saying that I should find some packages that I can remove to free up space, so that I can install the missing dependancies, so that I can purge the old Kernels?
[22:18] <Ben64> riply: yeah you should be able to remove kernels like that
[22:19] <dev-rke> i already discussed this in another forum, the people there recommended to ask someone who has knowledge in drivers
[22:19] <riply> Ben64, okay let me try
[22:19] <dev-rke> the network lags occur sequently in steps of 100 seconds.
[22:20] <dev-rke> each lag sequence has a duration of round about 5 seconds
[22:20] <OerHeks> dev-rke, can you give us info about your wireless device? lspci or lsusb?
[22:20] <dev-rke> lspci, TP-LINK WND4800, ath9k
[22:20] <riply> Ben64, I think we are in business!!
[22:20] <Ben64> riply: :D
[22:21] <histo> dev-rke: boot to an earlier kernel
[22:21] <dev-rke> Oerheks, Ubuntu 13.10 was running without problems with kernel 3.11
[22:21] <dev-rke> i already did that
[22:21] <xubuntu> nbhb
[22:21] <Guest67048> mm
[22:22] <dev-rke> if i trigger 'sudo iwlist wlan0 scan' and watch a ping to my router the lag occurs again
[22:22] <dev-rke> so i assume there is a bug in the network manager, the driver or the new kernel :-)
[22:22] <aluchko> running apt-get upgrade in the chrooted environment... I have a bad feeling about this
[22:23] <dev-rke> aluchko did u mean me? :-)
[22:23] <riply> Ben64, it is saying that it's 'done' with no errors, but when I run dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[22:23] <riply>  the kernels are still there, do I need to reboot before they 'poof'?
[22:23] <aluchko> dev-rke, nah, that's what I'm doing right now
[22:23] <dev-rke> kk :-)
[22:24] <OerHeks> dev-rke, i just read your post @ ubuntuusers, you already checked hwcrypt http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/netzwerk-lags-nach-kernel-update-3-13-14-04-lt/
[22:24] <qwingo> riply: Thanks, the unity-reset script worked! :)
[22:24] <dev-rke> right
[22:24] <dev-rke> u're quick ;-)
[22:24] <Penguin__> Hello I need help for partions stuff
[22:25] <barlie> Penguin__, Can you share the issue
[22:25] <OerHeks> dev-rke, what happens if you trottle back to 54 mbit ?
[22:26] <dev-rke> will you stay here, while i reconfigure my router? ^^
[22:26] <kingbeowolf> can anyone confirm r9 290 working in crossfire in ubuntu?
[22:26] <OerHeks> dev-rke, you might be able to do this in networkmanager, but sure, we'll wait.
[22:27] <dev-rke> OerHeks, thank you, i'll be back in a few minutes
[22:27] <Penguin__> My computer was partitioned with WIndows 7 pro and Ubuntu (version 12.04) and on windows 7 I deleted the partition for linux it comes up with error: partition not found grub rescue>
[22:27] <Penguin__> any ideas
[22:27] <vino> The synaptic package manager seems to only have gimp 2.6, is there any way for me to get gimp 2.8 without upgrading ubuntu?
[22:27] <barlie> Penguin__, What is the end goal, just windows &
[22:27] <barlie> W7
[22:28] <barlie> Penguin__, If you remove the linux you have no grub boot
[22:28] <Penguin__> I was going to have everything one linux type (Picking out witch)
[22:28] <OerHeks> vino,  for precise, i asume?
[22:29] <vino> i have no idea
[22:29] <barlie> Penguin__, Cool, if you have a windows recovery disc you can reload it's bootloader, or just install another linux for a grub menu.
[22:29] <Penguin__> I have a windows recovery disk but bios wont work
[22:30] <barlie> Penguin__, use the boot from menu outside the bios to boot that disc
[22:30] <vino> OerHeks, yes, precise
[22:30] <Penguin__> What menu?
[22:30] <dev-rke> ok
[22:30] <dev-rke> i just tried the ping again and executed a scan in parallel
[22:30] <dev-rke> in 2,4ghz mode everything seems fine
[22:30] <dev-rke> in 5ghz i cannot switch down to 802.11b or g, so there the bug occurs again
[22:30] <riply> Ben64, it's working like a charm now - thank you :)
[22:31] <barlie> Penguin__, Tis a per session boot menu mine is a f12 pressed as if a bios access.
[22:31] <Penguin__> barlie, I am a noobie at tech but I know how to do that so I already tried it and it didn't work
[22:31] <dev-rke> wireless channels are well chosen to avoid overlapping channels in my config
[22:32] <barlie> Penguin__, The bios splash should tell youn two things the bios keys press and this menu key press. This is not a bios boot
[22:33] <Penguin__> barlie, non of the keys like f12  do anything
[22:33] <Penguin__> trust me i tried
[22:33] <barlie> Penguin__ You can choose the first thing read in the bios or in this menu not in the bios.
[22:33] <nicksloan> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mountall/+bug/1331841
[22:33] <dev-rke> OerHeks, some ideas about my issue?
[22:33] <barlie> Penguin__, Not every computer is f12, the manual or an on line search should tell you the key or key presses.
[22:34] <Penguin__> My key is f10 I tried it
[22:34] <barlie> Penguin__, f10 for what, you did not seem to be familiar with this other boot menu?
[22:35] <Penguin__> I am not what do i do to get to it
[22:35] <e^> Penguin__: try ESC
[22:35] <barlie> Penguin__, First answering questions as asked would help.
[22:35] <OerHeks> dev-rke, i was reading but didn't find a solution yet.
[22:36] <Penguin__> barlie, I tried ESC nothing happend
[22:36] <dev-rke> OerHeks, ok. In 2.4ghz mode the ping raises up to 100ms, but never up to 2000ms as in 5ghz mode
[22:36] <barlie> Penguin__, I did not say anything about esc
[22:36] <Penguin__> oh
[22:37] <Penguin__> that was e^
[22:37] <barlie> Penguin__, read this please. https://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc
[22:37] <e^> i access it with ESC on my hp laptop, (actually f9 but ESC gets you there eventually too)
[22:37] <OerHeks> dev-rke, it is a nasty work-around, 54 mbit, but best thing to use up to now.
[22:37] <e^> Penguin__: you could give Delete a shot, i doubt it though
[22:38]  * aluchko is letting boot-repair run, hoping it does magic things
[22:38] <dev-rke> OerHeks, i decided to by a 5ghz wireless system to avoid channel issues when playing games or watching video streams. ;-)
[22:39] <dev-rke> OerHeks, so it does affect me also, if i switch back to 2.4ghz mode. ;-)
[22:40] <dev-rke> OerHeks, i want to help to solve this bug, so i would like to know, what i could do now.
[22:41] <clevas> is 12.04 uefi or legacy install?
[22:41] <dev-rke> OerHeks, it must be a change between kernel 3.11 and 3.13, because using kernel 3.11 works without any problems
[22:41] <Penguin__> Hi my computer was partitioned with WIndows 7 and ubuntu (version 12.04) I deleted the partition while using windows I rebooted for some reason and I got the screen of death on linux saying error: no such partition grub rescue> what should I do?
[22:42] <barlie> Penguin__, What is the computer model?
[22:43] <dev-rke> OerHeks, till now i always booted 14.04 LTS with 3.11 kernel to avoid the issue, but i don't think it will make me happy in future, if this bug won't be solved in further releases of the kernel
[22:43] <barlie> I will find the correct keys to use that menu if I can Penguin__
[22:44] <Penguin__> barlie, The computer model is a lenvo ideapad y580 It ran windows 8 original but the OS deleted a while a go by me to get ubuntu/ windows 7
[22:45] <e^> is there a way to view thumbnails of pictures that are inside a folder ?
[22:45] <aluchko> e^, gwenview
[22:45] <OerHeks> dev-rke, sorry to hear that, you can help by filing a bugreport ( cant find any recent bureports to confirm)
[22:45] <barlie> Penguin__, Ah a uefi that makes thing a bit more difficult, does the bios have a sata cd boot?
[22:46] <dev-rke> OerHeks, could you please give me some small instructions where i have to file a new report?
[22:46] <e^> aluchko: ok, thanks
[22:46] <Penguin__> Yes bios does a sata cd boot it is set to boot installed things from disk then disk
[22:46] <OerHeks> !bug
[22:46] <dev-rke> OerHeks, ok, which package would that be?
[22:47] <dev-rke> release upgrade?
[22:47] <OerHeks> ath9 ?
[22:47] <dev-rke> yeag
[22:47] <dev-rke> yeah
[22:47] <dev-rke> but i think it is a dist-upgrade, right?
[22:48] <OerHeks> dev-rke, i am not sure, if dist upgrade is of any important influence.
[22:48] <aluchko> wow, boot-repair is definitely an ubuntu tool, it had me uninstall my fedora kernals
[22:48] <dev-rke> OerHeks, hm, but i definitly know that it worked with the 3.11 kernel without any issues
[22:49] <barlie> Penguin__, here is the manual it says f12 in it, however you most likely need a efi boot for linux, not sure without reading on the recovery boot, and this is actually a ##windows issue if at this time you want to restore it's boot.
[22:49] <barlie> http://download.lenovo.com/consumer/mobiles_pub/ideapad_y480_y580_ug.pdf
[22:51] <DoverMo> ubuntu seems to have a whale load of libraries in the dvd
[22:51] <barlie> DoverMo, If the dvd download it is the extra languages
[22:52] <DoverMo> barlie, i mean. the 1gb size. it's like a 4+ gb install without extra things
[22:53] <barlie> DoverMo, yes, the disc is compressed, do you have an end goal that needs help?
[22:54] <DoverMo> barlie, i'm surprised that there's such much library stuff
[22:54] <barlie> DoverMo, Ah, well this is support so if you need that carry on.
[22:55] <dev-rke> OerHeks, i do not get it.... it is too complicated... just created an ubuntu one account, but now they want openpgp keys and so on....
[22:55] <dev-rke> i just want to file a simple bug.....
[22:56] <Rexter> I have the mouse speed set to the lowest setting. I'm looking for a way to slow it down further.
[22:58] <Rexter> I assume in the mouse settings as you turn the mouse speed down, it increases some sort of variable. I'm I'd like to increase the multiplier.
[23:00] <Rexter> I have Googled the issue, and I do see that I can set it static in a config file, but that's not what I want. I still want to be able to adjust it in the mouse settings.
[23:01] <DoverMo> Rexter, good luck writing your own gui then
[23:01] <barlie> Rexter, Have you looked for the dpi button on the mouse?
[23:02] <barlie> for a*
[23:02] <Rexter> DoverMo, perhaps there is a config file that gui uses that contains a multiplier that i could change?
[23:02] <Rexter> barlie, no dpi button.
[23:03] <barlie> Rexter, Thanks for confirming. ;)
[23:07] <Rexter> I also noticed that on my laptop, with the touchpad, changing the touchpad speed make almost no difference. From fastest to slowest, you can just barely  tell the difference. There's got to be a variable somewhere that can be adjusted.
[23:13] <barlie> Rexter, The lack of speed control has been around for awhile years I would say, so it may be a hard find to change.
[23:15] <barlie> Rexter, might be worth looking through while you wait. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=mouse+speed
[23:16] <barlie> http://askubuntu.com/search?q=mouse+cursor+speed a more specific search
[23:16] <e^> i just ran apt-get upgrade and while setting up i got a bunch of kbuild related msgs, ending with: kbuildsycoca4(10865) kdemain: Emitting notifyDatabaseChanged ("apps", "apps"), and its stalled, any idea about this ?
[23:17] <barlie> e^, Did you save this info so you can pastebin it?
[23:17] <e^> terminal is still open
[23:17] <barlie> e^ I would include that info is all seems important, not sure overall myself.
[23:18] <Rexter> Thanks barlie, I'll keep researching.
[23:18] <barlie> Rexter, No problem, if you find an answer we all want to know it. ;)
[23:19] <CyanBlob> Hey guys, I just installed Ubuntu 14.04, and my volume indicator has now disappeared. Any ideas?
[23:19] <CyanBlob> It is there on the login screen
[23:20] <Rexter> Do you think that this means my mouse just has higher dpi than what's expected? Even on the lowest setting, the pointed moves from the top corner to the bottom corner with less than 1 inch of movement of the mouse.
[23:20] <barlie> CyanBlob, Have you made any changes on the install as of now?
[23:21] <CyanBlob> I tried reinstalling the indicator, which didn't help. Force reloading alsa makes it come back, but not functionally. I still have audio.
[23:22] <CyanBlob> barlie: Yes, I installed Skype (which is when I think the indicator broke, but I'm not positive) and Virtualbox. I have not altered any sound settings.
[23:22] <kingbeowolf> can anyone confirm r9 290 working in crossfire in ubuntu?
[23:22] <barlie> CyanBlob, This is installed on the HD, not in a VM, just checking is all?
[23:23] <CyanBlob> barlie: Yes, this is on the HD. If it matters, I installed Skype 4.2 from the Ubuntu Partner repo, uninstalled it, then installed 4.3 from the Skype .deb file
[23:23] <Rexter> Does Firefox have massive memory leaks? It's been open for a few days, with 8 tabs open. It's consuming 2.4GB RAM.
[23:23] <cerry> some around helping out fixing dual screen support on ATI/integrated initel graphic chipset?
[23:23] <cerry> *intel
[23:24] <barlie> CyanBlob, Is the desktop working correct otherwise, for example the dash search?
[23:24] <barlie> !details | cerry
[23:25] <e^> barlie: http://www.pastebin.com/wT6PvNJh (apt-get upgrade)
[23:25] <CyanBlob> barlie: Yes, everything appears to be working as it should. Except in the 'Sounds' settings category, there are no input/output devices listed, and the volume control does not affect the system volume. Using alsamixer to control the volume works.
[23:25] <CyanBlob> barlie: Could Skype have messed up my Alsa/Pulse settings?
[23:26] <sol__> hey everyone. i have rtl8723be wireless card. i got a set of drivers from github (lwfinger/rtl8723be) and im trying to run it on precise pangolin, but i keep getting errors when i run the make command
[23:26] <holstein> CyanBlob: are you up to date with upgrades? i would try in a terminal "sudo apt-get udpate && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to be sure
[23:26] <holstein> sol__: you should ask the creators of the package/driver for help on how to install the software they create
[23:26] <holstein> sol__: you can share specific errors in a pastebin..
[23:27] <barlie> CyanBlob, Not sure on skype or pulse, I would make sure you have the correct graphic driver installed, and run a reset.  http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/04/reset-unity-and-compiz-settings-in-ubuntu-14-04/
[23:27] <cerry> oh… I dc'ed so probably first post didn't get through. I'm running 14.04 on a Dell Latitude which seems to have 2 graphic chipsets. When connecting my 2nd screen (VGA adapter) ubuntu's "display" tool won't detect the screen. Works flawless with my older 12.04 nVidea chipset.
[23:27] <barlie> CyanBlob, I would check if the guest account has the same anomalies too.
[23:28] <CyanBlob> barlie: Alright, I'll check and report back.
[23:28] <holstein> cerry: you seem to be comparing a few different things.. like 12.04 on nvidia vs 14.04 on intel..
[23:28] <CyanBlob> holstein: Alright, I ran them (pretty sure I was up to date, though). I'll restart and report back
[23:29] <holstein> cerry: you are running 14.04? and you want dual head there? on what hardware? intel?
[23:30] <cerry> holstein: I've some output from lspci and lshw here: http://pastebin.com/AguqDHv2 I suspect I should enable the ATI card but the intel is running ~  can't clearly see it in the output though
[23:30] <CyanBlob> berlie: The guest account is working as it should. It is just my main account that is affected
[23:30] <CyanBlob> holstein: The updates did not solve the issue.
[23:31] <cerry> Yeahh, forget the 12.04 - i just brabbled
[23:31] <daftykins> cerry: what happens if it's connected from bootup?
[23:32] <daftykins> cerry: or are you doing that already?
[23:32] <cerry> daftykins: I haven't tested it with my home screen though but it made no difference at work
[23:32] <daftykins> cerry: so no change connecting it after or having it connected from powered off?
[23:32] <holstein> cerry: try installing ati drivers.. though, if its a dual GPU, those can have poor linux support
[23:33] <cerry> daftykins: nope :/
[23:33] <holstein> CyanBlob: do you see the same "issues" in the guest account?
[23:34] <CyanBlob> holstein: No, I do not. Everything is working as it should over there. I suspect the problem is my recent installation of Skype
[23:34] <daftykins> cerry: i agree with holstein, some proprietary drivers needed there most likely
[23:34] <holstein> CyanBlob: then, i would reset my user config there
[23:34] <cerry> holstein: would you mean enabling fglrx-updates or just fglrx? They're listed as alternatives for X.Org's driver in "additional drivers" but when i enable them the screen freezes after log in screen :/
[23:34] <holstein> CyanBlob: if the guest account is "Fine", then the issue is likely in your user config..
[23:34] <CyanBlob> holstein: I may purge Skype and reinstall Pulseaudio and see where that gets me, but I would like to have Skype installed
[23:34] <CyanBlob> holstein: How would I go about doing that?
[23:34] <cerry> or more: mouse vanishes, nothing happens, can restart via tty though
[23:34] <holstein> CyanBlob: for me, on hardware that doesnt promise linux support, i try all options and use what fits my needs best
[23:35] <holstein> CyanBlob: no. stop messing with the sytem and system packages
[23:35] <holstein> CyanBlob: the issue is not there.. the guest account you say is fine.. so, the system audio is fine.. its your user that has the issue in the config
[23:36] <holstein> CyanBlob: for example.. http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[23:36] <cerry> daftykins: i do a quick restart (to be 100%), brb
[23:41] <HSKW> hello!
[23:41] <sol__> hm. well, my kernel is 3.11.0.23 generic. the drivers were written for 3.15+. how do i get 3.15, specifically?
[23:42] <HSKW> i've a prob, its possible to proxy an m3u8 request by swf??
[23:42] <kidpool> Hey guys. I want to partition several hard drives into equal sizes so that I can turn them into a concatenated RAID. Is this possible? How do I partition the external hard drives?
[23:44] <OerHeks> sol__, trusty is om 3.13, so wait for the 3.15 kernel update ( if you want the kernel ppa, you might run into issues )
[23:44] <cerry> re, rebooted 2x times each plugged in VGA-screen => x.org driver no dual screen, fglrx…? => login screen works but then just background is present until switching to tty, purging the package and restarting lightdm
[23:45] <dev-rke> OerHeks, ok thank you for your support, i just filed my first bug now :-)
[23:45] <dev-rke> but it was not quite easy to find the right form to fill :D
[23:45] <cerry> *fglrx
[23:45] <sol__> ohh. so the software i need isn't even released yet. what is a kernel ppa?
[23:46] <OerHeks> dev-rke, i think i missed your last post about filling the bugreport, sorry
[23:47] <OerHeks> sol__, it seems that the 3.15 kernel is for the next utopia 14.10 release only >> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[23:47] <davoida> how can i start CENTOS anakonda installer without creating LVM's but rather extn partitions?
[23:47] <OerHeks> davoida, centos is not supported here, ubuntu only
[23:47] <davoida> also i don't have httpd to use ks
[23:47] <dev-rke> OerHeks, that is ok, thanks for your support. I will wait and i think, the linux way will solve my issue if i answer the upcoming questions. ;-)
[23:48] <OerHeks> dev-rke, any bit can help
[23:49] <sol__> i could theoretically use the kernel in this repository with trusty, perhaps with problems, correct?
[23:49] <OerHeks> sol__,  no
[23:49] <sol__> okay. thats all i needed to know. for now ill just stick with the wired connection.
[23:49] <dev-rke> OerHeks, two bit for me please. as my grandmother always said: you can't stand on a single leg. ;-)
[23:50] <dev-rke> Ok, i am off now, thank you all for your support :D
[23:51] <Fevix> Okay so. I need to make another USB stick that'll let me install the most recent stable release of Ubuntu available.
[23:55] <sol__> \op00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000'[
[23:55] <daftykins> Fevix: ok, download the latest ubuntu then
[23:55] <sol__> SED@#;llllllllllllllllllllllllllll65-5
[23:56] <daftykins> sol__: stop that please
[23:57] <zombu2> you scared em
[23:58] <bekks> zombu2: That was intentional. ;)