[00:59] <Bosi> Hello everyone. I have a netbook with an ATOM N450 1.6ghz on it. I only have 2Gb of RAM in it though. Would you install Xubuntu 32 or 64 bit?  Why?
[01:01] <genii> Bosi: I have an Acer Aspire D260 with same chip, I put 64 bit on without problems.
[01:03] <Bosi> genii, Yeah, I asked a few people they have mixed opinions about it. Some say it will suck up my RAM, some say I should put my processor to work at its full potencial... what do you think the upsides and downsides are?
[01:04] <genii> Since i never had 32bit on it, can't really make a comparison for you there. All I can say is that it works well under 64bit and i have no issues.
[01:05] <Bosi> any other opinions?
[01:30] <wllrt> I'm running xubuntu 14.04 on a thinkpad A30 and looking to not use the ctrl-key as to avoid Emacs pinky. Some suggest using the Caps Lock, others the space bar. Any emacs users here, I'd definitely appreciate orienting me in the right direction.
[01:30] <ObrienDave> Emacs pinky
[01:30] <ObrienDave> ?.
[01:31] <ObrienDave> LOL fat fingers ;P
[01:32] <wllrt> ObrienDave: To avoid repititive stress injury, since the ctrl+key makes you (at least in this keyboard) stretch your pinky.
[01:32] <wllrt> My left pinky is the strongest, and I feel it straining.
[01:39] <wllrt> So far, this looks promising: http://emacsredux.com/blog/2013/11/12/a-crazy-productivity-boost-remap-return-to-control/
[07:13] <meek_geek> how r u
[08:12] <vdandre> Hi. Anybody successfully running a Lenovo t440p (intel/nvidia) with a docking station? Read about so many problems regarding uefi, mainboard, dockfirmware ...
[09:17] <BBLLCC> hi, I have an epson stylus dx4850 printer and from https://www.openprinting.org/printer/Epson/Epson-Stylus_DX4800 I have downloaded the needed drivers. I canot print, I keep getting this message: there is a missing print filter for printer Stylus-DX4800. What am I missing?
[16:01] <pjotter> Hello Everybody. In order for me to upgrade to the latest LTS release, I first have to upgrade my graphics card. Right now I am using an onboard ATI Radeon HD 3200. What would be a good brand/model for me to look for? I'm not really into gaming and don't need a very expansive card. Just one that works well with Xubuntu.
[16:03] <brainwash> pjotter: how do you know that your current one won't work well with xubuntu 14.04?
[16:03] <pjotter> I've tried. It has something to do with the new kernel. The model I use isn't supported any more.
[16:04] <pjotter> There are no proprietary drivers available for the new kernel.
[16:04] <brainwash> right, it's not supported by the restricted graphics driver anymore, but the open source driver has been improved a lot and is now in good shape
[16:04] <pjotter> Ok
[16:05] <brainwash> so, I recommend that you get the 14.04 iso and boot into live mode to test it
[16:05] <brainwash> the open source driver is loaded automatically
[16:06] <pjotter> Up until now, I have always noticed a big difference between using the standard driver and the proprietary driver. The latter being much much faster and supporting all kinds of functionality.
[16:07] <brainwash> it's still true, kinda, but the difference is small nowadays
[16:08] <brainwash> even proper power management is supported now
[16:08] <pjotter> Does the standard driver have settings I can change? Wait for vertical refresh and that kind of thing?
[16:09] <brainwash> that's possible, but not via a GUI I think
[16:09] <pjotter> ok
[16:10] <pjotter> But there would be no major problems if I just went out and bought one of the latest ATI graphics cards and use that one instead of the onboard card?
[16:13] <brainwash> latest graphics cards are known to cause trouble
[16:13] <pjotter> ok :)
[16:13] <brainwash> you could buy one which is a bit older and has good reviews
[16:14] <pjotter> Any particular brand/model I should avoid?
[16:17] <brainwash> hard to tell
[16:19] <brainwash> you can check http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=category&item=Graphics%20Cards
[16:20] <pjotter> Thanks! I'll have a look
[16:28] <pumkash> Question.  How do I add Kali tools to Xubuntu distro?
[16:36] <xubuntu494> How do I derermine whether I am running a 32 bit or 64 bit version of xubuntu
[16:40] <elfy> arch
[16:43] <xubuntu494> Does i686 mean 64 bit?
[16:43] <elfy> x86_64 is 64 bit - i686 is 32bit
[16:44] <xubuntu494> Thank you
[17:00] <palasso> Hi there. Is Synaptic installed by default on Xubuntu 14.04?
[17:00] <ObrienDave> no
[17:00] <palasso> kthnx
[18:03] <ShinuSha_> hey there to all users
[18:07] <ShinuSha_> I would need help with xubuntu 14.04. Tried solving the problem for 2 days now without any solution. Its a problem with downloading packages, selecting another mirror,... Could someone help me? Best way would be a private chat or something else.
[18:09] <ObrienDave> ok, selecting another mirror is easy
[18:10] <ShinuSha_> The problem is that it doesnt show any other and bz clicking select best it throws an error too
[18:10] <ShinuSha_> *by
[18:10] <zeracca> mirrors are in /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:11] <ShinuSha_> tried playing around with them too.   Is it allowed to post the full error?
[18:12] <ObrienDave> if it's one line, yes. more than one, please use pastebin
[18:13] <ShinuSha_> how do i use that?
[18:14] <ObrienDave> do you have pastebinit installed?
[18:14] <ObrienDave> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[18:15] <ObrienDave> or copy and paste the error to pastebin.com and submit the link here
[18:17] <ShinuSha_> ok, ill get it in one line either so -> by selecting other in ubuntu software center it displays an empty window and by clicking select best it displays No suitable download server was found, Please check your internet connection
[18:18] <ObrienDave> so, it's saying that you have no access to any mirrors?
[18:19] <ShinuSha_> correct. The internet connection works im writing right now from it
[18:21] <ObrienDave> yes, that's a new one on me. please try asking in main channel. #ubuntu
[18:23] <ShinuSha_> ok thanks for your help anyway. Do zou know how i install play on linux? Error-> http://pastebin.com/r5rAt0jJ
[18:24] <ObrienDave> just through the normal PPA
[18:25] <ShinuSha_> could you explain it step by step? Im really sad that nothing had worked for me so far.
[18:25] <voidwalkr> was anyone successful in running ms office 2010 through wine without problems or glitches? is there a mac office that you can run directly maybe from linux?
[18:26] <ObrienDave> ShinuSha_, http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/playonlinux
[18:26] <ObrienDave> voidwalkr, why do that?, install LibreOffice
[18:27] <voidwalkr> i can't work on that it's very ugly
[18:27] <voidwalkr> it's monstrous
[18:28] <ObrienDave> it works
[18:28] <voidwalkr> i don't care, its a creative inspiration killer
[18:28] <voidwalkr> i need to be inspired when i write
[18:28] <voidwalkr> need eye candy
[18:28] <ObrienDave> ok fine
[18:29] <voidwalkr> was anyone ever able to get office 2010 working properly on linux or no?
[18:29] <voidwalkr> from the videos i see on youtube, it's very glitchy
[18:29] <voidwalkr> it's horrible
[18:30] <voidwalkr> i love linux, but i ain't switching permanently until there is good office suite for it
[18:30] <ShinuSha_> i tried it ObrienDave Result -> http://pastebin.com/itUS8KhS
[18:30] <voidwalkr> i wonder if PearOS supports mac office
[18:32] <ObrienDave> ShinuSha_, run "sudo apt-get -f install"
[18:33] <ShinuSha_> Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[18:33] <ObrienDave> ok, sec
[18:34] <ObrienDave> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa
[18:35] <ObrienDave> sudo apt-get update
[18:35] <ObrienDave> sudo apt-get install wine1.7
[18:36] <ShinuSha_> same output -> Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-armhf/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
[18:37] <ObrienDave> sounds like your sources.list file is corrupted. sec
[18:37] <ObrienDave> look here http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/index.php
[18:38] <ObrienDave> i do not know how to overwrite the file
[18:41] <ObrienDave> biab
[18:41] <ShinuSha_> per terminal
[18:44] <ShinuSha_> sources.list should be ok now. i will try it again
[18:45] <ObrienDave> ok
[18:48] <ShinuSha_> no it stays the same (but finally it is searching for it on DE mirrors by default)
[18:52] <zeracca> have you tried purging the ppa?
[18:54] <ShinuSha_> how do i do that? Im programmer but im relative new to linux
[18:55] <zeracca> by googling it says sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:whatever/ppa
[18:59] <Pici> !ppapurge
[18:59] <ShinuSha_> It adds it but it doesnt change anything        could the errors occur cause of an arm based cpu?
[19:01] <Pici> at least in trusty, wine is only available for amd64 and i386.
[19:02] <zeracca> ^
[19:02] <ObrienDave> dang, never thought to ask what cpu :/
[19:02] <zeracca> how could you know anyway :)
[19:03] <ShinuSha_> so i cannot download it though?
[19:05] <zeracca> To be honest, I don't know, but it seems like it doesnt work for you
[19:06] <ShinuSha_>  but iwanted to plaz wot with it x(
[19:07] <ShinuSha_> bye
[22:31] <yoLo_> notebook doesn't come out of sleep mode
[22:31] <yoLo_> can anybody fix this /
[22:31] <yoLo_> ?
[22:32] <Travis> I am having the same issue.
[22:33] <Travis> 12.04 never did this.
[22:34] <yoLo_> this is driving me crazy..
[22:34] <yoLo_> at certain times it works, most of the time it doesn't work
[22:35] <yoLo_> previous versions never did this..
[22:35] <yoLo_> i should probably go back to xubuntu 13.10
[22:35] <Travis> 13.10 does it too
[22:35] <yoLo_> it never did it for me
[22:36] <Travis> According to the website, 12.04 is supported until April 2015
[22:36] <Travis> Unless that's wrong.
[22:36] <Travis> I may go back to 12.04, just for that reason.
[22:37] <yoLo_> i never had the intention to upgrade to 14.04 until lastweek  when my OS was installing updates and my laptop hibernated due to low battery
[22:38] <Travis> I know that 12.04 doesn't do it for one reason.  CHIRP (a popular ham radio program) has a live CD that uses 12.04
[22:38] <yoLo_> guess 14.04 not stable after all
[22:38] <Travis> nope
[22:39] <yoLo_> are there people in here that can help ?
[22:39] <Travis> You have to wait around.
[22:39] <yoLo_> or this channel is just a hang ut ?
[22:39] <yoLo_> i'm assuming ikonia is the genius here
[22:40] <Travis> This is one reason I love to test it.  I have a Panasonic Toughbook CF-29.  I can run 14.04 just fine, until I want to close my laptop lid.
[22:40] <Travis> My gf hates it when I use Mr. Satan on her network.
[22:40] <yoLo_> :|